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Welcome to the Engineering YouTube and Podcast. My name is Paul, I'm your host, quite often

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joined by friends and this podcast is all about the Porsche lifestyle. Whether it's

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Waffle, just me and friends chastising away, mostly about rubbish, or it's the Renault

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550 build or the Heritage stuff which is all about Porsche from the very early days

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to right where we are now, or it's the tech talks with industry experts breaking down

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and myth busting all the stuff that people think is true but it's definitely not. I

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hope you enjoy the episode.

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Welcome back to the Engineering YouTube and Podcast and wow, so it is the first day back

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after returning from France so as I've been mentioning on and off for the last month or

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so both here and on Instagram at RENGINEERING UK on Instagram by the way that I had a massive

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French road trip planned so that went brilliantly well. The car absolutely lapsed it up from

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a drum to the Euro tunnel and drove from where I live to Monaco to grass to all around

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the route Napoleon with some private kind of introduction to some of those roads that

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might not have been seen before through to where did I go after that? Calde Sirene, Calde

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de la Bonnette, so the highest road in Europe which I was very happy about and then after

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the mountains I headed to Rance or Reims as people tend to know it and then head home

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so I'm stopping by Cannes and a couple of other places either side as well because

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it's a big old journey to get down to the south of France. That all went fantastically

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well, really excited about the footage I've got, I've managed to document, basically

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how I've shot it is for the Rance bit so again Reims I've shot kind of enough footage

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to cut together a bit of a history tour of the circuit including some drone footage,

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I did a lap basically of the circuit as it would be or as close to a lap as you can do.

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Really looking forward to putting that together and going to do some research, proper research

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not just half-hearted research and do a bit of a voiceover, really work hard on the editing

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and then try and put some together that's really, really watchable so that's going to

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be a bit of a slower process but also I documented the whole thing so I shot a documentary effectively.

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Every day I got up and kind of did a piece to the camera about what the plans were, how

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the day before went, all that sort of stuff so got absolutely loads. Recording it's the

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easy part, stitching it together and just editing into the interesting stuff that you

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guys will want to watch, that's the more difficult bit as it is with all of this stuff, just

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chasing into a microphone, a piece of cake, putting it together and making it meaningful

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is much harder, woe is me. Anyway, this episode is in the bank, although there's one other

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thing I do want to mention, it was a bit of a showstopper, heart-stopping moment is when

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Porsche, after a bit of a leak yesterday, decided to release all the details and lift

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the embargo on the 992 911 ST. Now, instantly, so basically it's a touring GT3 with a load

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of RS bits thrown in with manual only, lightweight stuff all over the place including a carbon

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fibre climbing frame in the back, it's just mega. If I could cherry pick something that

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didn't exist in the range it would be that. I'm a huge fan of the 911 R, more of a fan

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of the touring than I am of the big wing and stuff so this really plays to me. I've got

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absolutely a subtle chance of getting one of these, £290,000 and that won't make any

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difference anyway because the people that are going to get these are collectors that

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have been buying GT products for decades. So it's completely irrelevant for me but you

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can still get excited about it right. So what I've seen so far is their heritage colourway

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which is like a light blue, kind of greeny light blue, I don't know what you call it

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really, not turquoise, it's like a muted turquoise with a round on and a number, not a big fan

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of the round on and a number that can go for me and they've released pictures of a black

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one, a black one that's cool, again not the sort of spec I'd choose. I think if I was

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going to go for it I'd look back into the back catalogue and go back to the original

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ST and then have a look and see what colours they had on those, maybe something that was

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kind of rare from back then, I don't know what that might be. Anyway it would be something

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very 70's bit of that way and I'd try and do the same with the interior, kind of pick

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you know little nods, tips of the hat to stuff that was released back then. Anyway so that's

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me, not too tired considering all the driving I've been doing over the last nine days of

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that trip, I feel okay, I've slept pretty well. I treated myself from the very last

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night to a spa hotel rather than crashing on airbnbs because the whole thing was basically

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airbnbs including a sleeping on a boat in Monaco that was pretty cool. Yeah anyway this is

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Festival of Speed so this is myself and Nick Forbes George, who's at Nick's Forbes George

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on Instagram and it was us mooching around the Festival of Speed and I managed to grab

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Dario Frankiti, Portia and Mantai to talk about the Spider RS and headed over to Gunther

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Works and chastided all about the Gunther Works products they bought and they bought

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a turbo and their sort of standard edition. That was really cool, really really massive

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appreciation, much more of an appreciation of Gunther Works and you know the work they

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do and where they sit in the marketplace because it's, I would suggest it's probably

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the wrong word but there's a few people doing that right, there's all obviously the kind

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of super high end stuff like Singer and Tut Hill and you know also Farm. There's lots of

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people out there doing it, Theon, you know some of these people I've spoken to, some

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I'm yet to speak to but Gunther Works really seem to do their own thing, they're following

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their own footsteps and I really appreciated that. And I really appreciated the client

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journey that they go through. So you'll hear all of that stuff, you'll hear Dario Frankiti

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talking about T50 because that's what he was sat in at the time when I was chatting to

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him and his thoughts on the kind of future of the brand, GMA. And then you'll hear about

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the thoughts on the Spyder RS and the Gunther Works car. There are people I'd love to have

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caught up with, did try my best, I'm looking at you RPM and same with the Cam car, the

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Cam manufacture car that you know these people have been trying to, RPM have been super for

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anyway but that's the Cam by the way. But yeah, it can't get around everybody, Festival

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of the Speed is such a busy day and a pinball around the place is best I could. And on that

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Welcome back to the engineering YouTube and podcast, Nick. Hello, good morning. Good morning

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Paul, how are we doing? Alright, just arrived at Goodwood Festival of Speed 2023. Straight

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into Supercar Paddock. Straight into Supercar Paddock, yeah. Just the absolute immediate

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overload to the senses of things that we normally would absolutely gulp out but now we've got

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a two-wheeled-drive. Well, it's that there. It's a Rijera, I mean it's Sainsville, but

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yeah, Giesco and Rijera, Rijera, I don't know. Got to be honest mate, they're a little bit

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lost on me, I think they're kind of good poster fodder but I've never seen one on the road.

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No, someone cared to see a beard when I went to... Oh really? Yeah, there were three or

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four of them turned up. Yeah, they're just crazy. I think it's the money of them that

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battles me. Yeah. Just the millions. Yeah, I mean I don't know who the customer is for

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a Rijera now. It's cool. I've got everything else and this is what I've ended up with.

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Actually, we're looking at the Cunigs eggs and we're opposite the Porsche 75 sports cars

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stand and this is their Park Fermet I guess for their Supercar running. So these will

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be going up to Hill at some point today. And here is my boxers big brother. It is, yeah,

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the Spider RS. Oh, it is the RS as well. Yes. Haven't seen one in the flesh yet. No, I haven't

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either actually. Only just been released. I've seen a Cayman RS but I haven't seen a

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Spider RS yet. So first impressions are great. It looks spawned really. I like the, they've

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chosen the good Calla Combo I think. So it's that generation blue? Gentil, yeah. Yeah,

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something like that. And then silver wheels for sentinocs. I mean it's quite, it's a classy

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look really. And a left hooker. And a left hooker. Yeah, this would have come out of

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the Porsche Germany on the thought. So yeah, it's got a Deutsche plate. German plate's on.

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Yeah, lovely. So I wonder with this mechanism for the, to pop the, if that's a manual mechanism

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now to save on the weight. Yeah, it will be. They will do this. I think these are ducts

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actually for the, I'll ask the question I think. You on the standard working for the

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side ducts. So they, what they feeding? They feeding radiators. These ones, yeah. This

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one is for the, for the latch on the roof. Yeah. And the ducts themselves that are going

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through there. That's the air intake. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's straight into the

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air filter. So, got you. Is there anything, so if you break down the Cayman RS versus

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the, James, James, do you have the key for the button? So just like you guys know that

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I'm speaking to someone on the Porsche stand now, he's going to talk me through the differences

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of the Cayman and the popster. Sorry, I don't know. So, right, no worries. So, so that came

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out earlier, the Cayman RS. And this is, so, the open RS. Sorry, say that again. It's

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some kind of convertible. Yes, of course. Yeah. Yeah. If you had to take one home, if

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you were going to say, right, here's the keys. Depending on your need. No, no, you personally.

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Yeah, you personally. Yeah, personally, I would take the box of spy kit. Because I'm not

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on the race track. So, I would go to the track days and so on. I would take the, the Cayman

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RS. The Mazda. Because this one does have the mantai kit. It's much more used for the race

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track. So the mantai kit, then talk to me about the mantai kit. So that's, I guess like

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the Bravis with, with AMG from Mercedes or like that, the kind of tuning package endorsed

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by Porsche. Yes. But not our Porsche. It's an official product of Porsche. Right. From

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Porsche to Corp. Yeah. And of course, Porsche is a shareholder of mantai. Yeah. Okay. So

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we're really working close together also with the developments and advice of in our

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department and the departments in noise-pulled mantai. And we developed this on top level

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mantai kit for the G4S. Right. We've gone about six seconds faster. Is it really? Right

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ring? Right around the neb-ring, no chiseler? 20.8 kilometers. Okay. So all about dynamics,

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suspension and ring. Fine. So nothing added or adjusted at the end, same engine. Yeah.

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That's right with dynamics. One more downforce on the race track to precise handling around

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the corners. Okay. And some of that is set up. So the geometry set up will be different

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between a standard RS and the mantai. Yeah. Some of it is additional parts packages as

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well. So different shocks and spring rates and things like that. Only springs. Just springs.

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So there's this point of suspension. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Any additional changes in

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the camber. So all that's adjustable anywhere with the RS. There will be a completely different

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wheel alignment. Yeah. Especially with the specific tool from mantai. Right. Okay. So

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it's also from race control. Yeah. They use it for their races. Exactly. And they will

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have this specific wheel alignment for this part. Right. Very good. We call it the notch

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slide setting. Ah, okay. The notch slide setting. Very good. Very good. And this is running

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up the hill today. Both of them are running up the hill? All three of them. All three.

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Okay. They've nailed the color with this. Is it gentian blue? San Marino blue. San Marino

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blue. Thank you. Is that a PTS color? Or is that? Yeah. Of course it is. Yeah. And it's

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set off with the silver wheels as well. It's a, for such a hardcore car, it's a classy look.

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It is. You could drive Ryan Molokow in this and everybody thinks, oh. Exactly. Exactly.

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I love this color. I saw it the first time this morning. Okay. I'm totally in love with

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this. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. And interestingly, the contrast colors of the interiors spot

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on as well. You'd be, you'd expect someone to go for, I don't think that's probably got

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bright color. No, it's, that's pretty low key. Right? Yeah. No, the interior color is very

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low key in that. I just, I'm not great. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think that would have orange

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center panels or something to bright enough. And actually the outside does all the talking

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anyway. Right? It's probably not enough. It stands for, I'm sorry, I think it's this

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morning not that good. Yeah. I'm directly from, from Tuchnauze. So. Oh, wow. Okay. So

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you, what talks to me about your experience then, if you live in the South Laisen, then

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you grew up there, was it always the idea of working for sure? Or did you, what was it?

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My childhood? Yes. Yeah. I'm a bit, 100 kilometers away from Tuchnauze's Tuchnauze in the Black

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Forest. Yeah. And to be honest, in my childhood, I saw a lot of cars driving around. So. For

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some kind of test runs for them. Yeah. And I was, my mother told me, yeah. This was the

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big two. Study hard. Study hard. You are going to work for Porsche. Yeah. As a child, no

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other car was interesting for you. Sure. Only for Porsche you turned around. Yeah. What

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was your childhood Porsche name? What was the one that was like your poster car? My favorite

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Porsche is the 964 Turbo 326. Oh, okay. Bad boys one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This one. Very

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nice. And that's what you had. That was the kind of the dream you as a child. Yes, what's

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my childhood dream? Until now. Until now. And then what's your dream now? If you had

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the kind of Black Bad Boys car back then, what's the kind of one that gets you most

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excited now? To be honest, the GT4 RS. Yeah. But when it comes to your future, electric,

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yeah, yeah. Tycoon. Oh, that's interesting. Acceleration in a Tycoon is brutal. So you

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always lean back your head and then you push the throttle. Otherwise you get ahead. I have

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one for a weekend and it was, yeah. It was, I thought it was too big. It didn't feel

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Porsche-like for me. Well, I am a petrolhead, of course, but future it's. So what's talked

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about is biofuel and Porsche's synthetic fuels. And yeah, so that's a big thing, right? So

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that will sustain the life of these cars that are in development now, coming out now. And

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I think you know your future proofs, right? I think you know your, yeah, I hope it's future

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proofs because as you know, 70% of our cars, which have been produced in the past, are

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still. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm a 981 owner. Oh, great. Nip, you've got a 718. Yeah. Porsche

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333. This is for a YouTube channel on podcast. That's why. Great. Yeah. Very good. So what's

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your role in Porsche and then today? Porsche, I'm the sales department for Porsche to put

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you. And I do the sales concept for this Mantai kit in close collaboration with Michael directly

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from Mantai. So he's in front of the camera. I'm more in the back. Fine. Right. Okay. And

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yeah, this is what we have. It's a world premiere. Yes. Excellent. Very good. Morning. Okay.

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What's your name again? Sorry? Alex. Alex. Nice to meet you, Alex. It's an absolutely

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pleasure, my friend. I'll leave you to it. You'll plenty of other people to speak to,

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I'm sure, but we'll go back and yeah, thanks so much for talking to me and sharing with

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me. Thanks. Have a lovely day. Thank you. Thank you.

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So we've immediately walked straight into the singer's town, which is quite impressive

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because these are some of the cars that I haven't seen in the flesh. This, we're standing

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opposite the turbo study. I'm sure all the lessons know what turbo study is, but for

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the stone, it is a sort of expansion of the 930 turbo, the kind of classic poster car

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that most people have had in the more than the 1980s and it's their singer's rendition

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of what that is, but amped up to the max. So kind of it's great. I'm slightly uneducated.

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I'm not as educated as you are on these. And I would say this is the whale tail. It is

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the most iconic car in the car. This is 10 year old me having a picture of a red one

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of these on my wall, but brought up to the 21st century and it's absolutely incredible

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to this car. It's perfect. And I think so, and this is not knocking anyone else in the

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business is doing this stuff because there's some amazing companies, but you can turn up

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to look at the singer and be anal about detail and you won't find a misfitted bit of anything.

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Like all the trim looks perfect. And for me, I'm a details guy, so it's, I look at shut

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lines, trim pieces fitting properly, you know, all the rubbers and things, all that stuff

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has been changed and this car has. It's perfection. It is perfection. And even this, I mean, is

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this a, yes, and I were looking at like an inlay, an inlay which has been machined.

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That, is that, is that, that's been machined? Was it flastered? I think it's machined. I

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think it's probably aluminium that's been machined, refinished because, you know, out

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of machine, it's only finishing. And there's lots of like an insect honeycomb that sits

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in it. And it's, it looks amazing. And it's the same as you'd find on Mercedes or probably

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better than the Mercedes. Look at the interior now. Seats are that classic, sort of classic

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shape really. The tombstone seats with the huge side bolsters.

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It's looked like you'd wallow into them and you could easily munch up a thousand miles

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and get out of it and be fine. Absolutely, absolutely. But it still retains that classic

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look. It's not, it's moved the game on, but it's still noticeably steep. It's not, it's

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almost like if you set a 930 turbo and this next to each other, a child wouldn't know

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the difference between each two. They wouldn't know, but as a details person you come in

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you start seeing the back bumper and the, the impact, it's exactly the same as an impact

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style bumper, but everything flows perfectly. It's like some smoothed all the grease. I've

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never once driven though. I'd want to incorporate this into my living room and just sit there

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and look at it. Yeah. It's just so pretty. Yeah. It's beautiful. So my road trip was

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coming up in a couple of weeks. I tried to get there, but it was booked in all England,

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but Sam from Scenery Glass did a European road trip and there's a, an Airbnb that you

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can drive your car into the bedroom basically. It's fucking amazing. And that's what you

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do this right, is you put two days in that Airbnb, one day to sit and look at your car

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and one day to actually be doing other stuff. What do you think of the colour?

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Great. I think it's fantastic. I think it's, it would be tempting to go for something that

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really stands out, but it almost doesn't need that. And this colour is so close to the original

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colour anyway. It's very classy. Yeah. I would say it's perfect, it's perfection. I, I, yeah.

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This really is, I still prefer the DLS, which is the one they released before the turbo starting,

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but that's just my personal take. But I think I would have had to go and look at the brand

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new car they just launched, which for me is too far. I think that they should, they're

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stopping at the turbo study and expanding from this, but still within those boundaries.

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That's where it is for me. And we can literally see it next to us now and it's, it's intense,

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right? It's an assault in the sense is, and I'm not sure that's what singers should be

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doing. But let's go and have a look and figure it out.

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So this is the turbo DLS. This is the next level up. I think released last week, the week before.

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And again, so look at it. It's, it is perfection in terms of the fit and finish. It's, it's,

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it's just everything is like, it's, it's like the max power generation. I've made 40 million

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pounds in the last year alone. What am I going to do with some of it? Cause I need to get

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rid of some money and you go buy this fucking thing. Absolutely.

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Yeah, I don't like it. No, no, I, like when it's, when you're sitting next to something

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as pretty as the other model, the turbo study, the turbo study, this to me just looks, it

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looks like somebody went and raided the parts or drawn just added everything to it.

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And then jacked it up. Let's talk to the singer and actually get their take on it.

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Morning chaps. Very well. Paul from Rengineering YouTube podcast. Can you take a second or two

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to talk me through this car?

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I shouldn't have said about the podcast. You'd have been like, yeah, let me talk you through it.

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Well, just talk to me about the design, the idea, where the inception came from and how

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you ended up with this product. Cause it's, I mean, it's like, it's like you drank about

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15 red balls and then sat down with a pet. Right. So it's obviously just a progression

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of the DLS. This is the DLS turbo. Yeah. Obviously Rob Dickinson's brain show.

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How long has he been working on this?

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In his mind? Yeah. Could be years. Could be years. But obviously I'll say it's a predecessor

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of the DLS.

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Yeah. I mean, that's really clear, right?

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Yeah. You can see that model. But it's still, so this is obviously a road car. Is there

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going to be a competition car or is this?

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There's two iterations of it. So there's this one, which is a bit more aggressive front bumper.

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The bigger splitter, you can go out the road to the other side. And I'll enjoy it there with

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the different setup on it. More of a ductile, more of a subtle spoiler on it.

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Different splitter on it. Different touches here and there.

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Yeah. So, okay.

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The idea is that you can put this in one car with the two setups.

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Right. Okay.

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This is for flight cases. So you can keep your bumper in the sport.

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Right. So you get the one car, you get the package for both options. Wow.

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The touring of the track and switch of mouth.

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Right. And they need to speak to you guys to swap that stuff out. I'm guessing they need

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to put it in and you go, like, I want to put the ductile and the, you know, the less aero

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front on and you guys would go like, yeah, fine. We can do it in three weeks.

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Bring it in. We'll do it.

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No, no, no. Is overnight change?

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Is it really?

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Yeah.

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Wow. Okay. And I think that's the thing for, for, stands out for singing with me is that

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it's all of its cohesive and all looks, I'm a detail addict, right? Like I look for the,

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I've looked, looked at lots of restoration versions and some of them are great. And then

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they look great from a distance and you get closer and closer again. And you start seeing

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that they've got like 98% there and stopped.

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Singer for me is that bit where you've gone the 2% and it's probably taken an extra three

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years to get the 2%, but it's everything's important, right? That's what you do.

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That's the idea. That's the idea.

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Everything's important. Every little detail. It's got that spot on you. There's no compromise

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on it.

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Yeah.

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And that's the bit that stands out.

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That's what makes us stand out.

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Is that what attracted you to working for the company or is it, what was your, what was

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your, what's your roles by the way?

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Development techniques.

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Right, okay.

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I got on board from the start. Always been a massive singer fan. Big, poor fan.

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I've been in my school for most of my life. And so when I've got the opportunity to come

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on board, it's a lovely little time to take a turn.

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Where did you come from? I'm an engineer myself. I'm just going through my chartship at the

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moment and I'm building a 550 recreation on a Lotus chassis.

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Okay.

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So I like, I'm, my inspiration is drawn a lot from different engineering projects, right?

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Yeah.

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But the level of quality in the finish is, I'm a small, small act of it. So it'd be, it's

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an attempt to try and hit singers level of quality. But anyway, yeah. So that's you sort

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of, you're a design engineer and technician. What about yourself?

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That's why I work in general.

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Okay.

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So I'm going up to the DLS and see my, eventually, to be able to go to the DLS T as well.

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And where, what was your, have you, where did you come from to get a singer?

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I'm Charlie.

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Charlie?

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Charlie.

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Sorry mate.

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Yeah.

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Really?

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Right, okay.

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I started out there as a master.

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Right. Which brand?

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I'm older.

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Right, okay.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I've lived with Kiera as well. So I've lived with them two, eight years. And we got

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Kiera for years as well. So I didn't really know a lot about singers.

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Really?

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Wow.

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What about Porsche in general? Is that a brand that resonated with you or?

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Probably not.

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Wow.

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So it was one of them. I could have seen the product, seen the DLS.

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It's got to be that.

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Yeah.

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I'm on. But I've always, I think I've always had the intention of competing.

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Hardly telling.

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Yeah, yeah.

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We've got four roundings from here.

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That's where I want to be.

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It does, everyone I've spoken to is singer. That's the one thing that seems to thread

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through everybody is that you've all got that eye for detail. You've all got that commitment

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to producing the best product possible. It's not. And that seems to be, I don't know, if

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the interview process is about that.

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We try and employ people from background where they will have that sort of attention to detail

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and things. A lot of our employees are from pro-drives.

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Of course, yeah.

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That's my own from pro-drives, 13 years ever.

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Right, okay.

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So yeah.

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If you give me the background at all, I have to say just great attention to detail.

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And you're recruiting quite heavily now, right? There seems to be an investment.

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We've been expanding massively since we started in the UK.

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Because obviously we're just over four years old now.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And I think we've changed from, because I don't know if you know, we started off as

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Body and Paint.

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Yeah.

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And Williams were going to be building the catch up.

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But now when we put on the whole field process, yeah, we've branched out massively.

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It's amazing. I've loved seeing the brand develop from Rob and then the small team in

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California and then it's expanded out and expanded out.

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And now you've got operations in the UK.

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I've been with singer.

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No.

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Two years next month.

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From when I started in GA.

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The first place I started in GA.

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Really?

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To see how it's gone.

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Not at all.

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It's just, did I ever think you'd be like this?

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No, no.

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It's fantastic that we've got you here today.

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For sure.

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What's your, have you got plans for the future?

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I mean, you seem quite happy at Singer, but in terms of the role, have you got your eyes

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on where you want to be and what you want to be in the future?

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I've got it to the best.

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Yeah.

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I've got it to the best.

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Yeah.

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I've got no plans to change it.

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I've got no plans to change it.

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Everyone who's chosen to work out is obviously going to say, it's the best job I've ever

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had.

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Yeah.

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I honestly think that's the best thing to do.

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I've just been working out.

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I've been working out for a while.

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I mean, my background years and years ago was in Lotus for Lotus dealership.

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So as a service manager, and I kind of moved away from that.

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I mean, air traffic engineering is a design engineer and a managing engineer producing

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air traffic control systems.

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Yeah.

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But I've still got my hand back in automotive and I still kind of want to connect to it.

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Yeah.

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Hence the reason why I'm building this 550.

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Anyway, yeah.

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I'm going to, what I'm going to do is, because we're recording the audio now, I'll come

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back and get B-roll.

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If I can come back and see this mic, and touring around and doing its thing, but is it all right

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if I pop back and get some B-roll and get some footage and speak to you guys again?

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Is that all right?

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It's been a lovely chat to you guys.

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Take it easy.

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Have a good day.

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Thanks very much.

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My car that I was tempted by when I was looking at my, and I'm serious, I was tempted by because

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of the price point and the entry points of these now.

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McLaren 12C, you can buy one of these for £65,000.

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And then you can have to have something done to it for £65,000.

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Yeah.

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And that's when you suddenly realized.

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It was a bad idea.

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Exactly.

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And you now have to sell an organ.

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Yeah.

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You've got to, I mean, this is, it's a great looking car.

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It was a great looking car.

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I don't think it's aged very well.

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Ah, okay.

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See, I think, I think what we did when they come out, 2011's know that.

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I think they have matured nicely given, I mean, look, the panel, it's got a pretty

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lot of Vora lines.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that's true.

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It's got, you can see that where McLaren have built off this for the 540C and just then

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it's next to a P1 as well.

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Hello, Freddie Tabarish.

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But yeah, 12C, I think, if you've got the money to run it, and I know this company's

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out there now that are specializing in doing this stuff and looking after them in the same

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way that buying an R8 back in the day would have seemed like suicide, actually running

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an R8 now, R8 performance is such a good job, they know them inside out, it's not that

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big a deal.

418
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,240
This is the Mac though for me.

419
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:34,740
Do you remember the three, the Trinity came out, so it was the 918, Laferrari and the

420
00:31:34,740 --> 00:31:36,240
P1 all came out at the same time.

421
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,240
Yeah.

422
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,240
This for me was the winner of that little group.

423
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,240
Oh, they've been Laferrari all day long.

424
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,240
Really?

425
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,240
Yeah.

426
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,240
Something about that nose, I just was.

427
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,240
I mean, there's going to be a laugh somewhere around here, I'm sure it is.

428
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,240
But it would be here.

429
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:56,240
And it's interesting because McLaren as a brand don't really resonate with me too much.

430
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,240
There's a centre next to us as well.

431
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,240
I mean, I wouldn't.

432
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,240
Yeah, I mean, I like them, I'd never eno it.

433
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,240
If it was, again, the endless pot of money, I wouldn't be running to McLaren, do you know?

434
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,240
No, no, no, no.

435
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:12,240
And if I had a 20 car garage and a limited pot of cash, there would be a P1 in it for

436
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,240
sure, there would not be a fricking centre in there at all.

437
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:21,240
And I think for me, it's just the design of the centre just looks clunky and the design

438
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,240
of the P1, it looks like, you know, organic.

439
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,240
I think I really like those organic shapes.

440
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,240
Everything looks like it's, you could draw it with three pen strokes, right?

441
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,240
Yeah.

442
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,240
I think, I can't remember who said that, that's, that might have been a Ferdinand Porsche thing

443
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,240
where I said you should be able to draw a car with three pen strokes.

444
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,240
I think that's where the 911 came from.

445
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:45,240
I don't know if I've wanted, to me, this isn't a car I drive every day though.

446
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,240
And I'd always want, I mean, when we look over at the Valkyrie, even if I had all the

447
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,240
money in the world, I still never buy one.

448
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,240
Yeah.

449
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,240
Something just to look at.

450
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,240
I don't think it was buying them to be fair.

451
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,240
Yeah.

452
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,240
The DB12 there, I mean, that's the one that's just been released, am I right?

453
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,240
Yeah.

454
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,240
Yeah.

455
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,240
It just smacks about, it smacks about Aston Martin.

456
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,240
It's definitely got Aston Martin.

457
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,240
You know, I could take the badge off of you, but you tell me.

458
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,240
And you know straight away, yeah, yeah, yeah.

459
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,240
But I could drive that.

460
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,240
I could see myself driving that in on the open road.

461
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,240
This P1, I think I'd be terrified.

462
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,240
I think it would just be too low down.

463
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,240
Can you imagine if you get to a speed button?

464
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,240
Yeah.

465
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,240
And you'd be like frantically trying to hit the lift button to make sure you don't smash

466
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,240
the like 25 grand speed button.

467
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,240
Well, where we are in the Cotswolds as well, I mean, there's a lot of, you know, we've

468
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,240
got some of the best driving in the UK.

469
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,240
Yeah.

470
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,240
But every now and again, you come to a bridge.

471
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,240
Yeah.

472
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,240
That's small.

473
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,240
And I'd be like, Jesus, I'm terrified.

474
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,240
You'd be terrified.

475
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,240
Yeah.

476
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:44,240
I mean, you're going to beach it or I'm going to take out one of the carbon fibre side skirts

477
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,240
on a dead rabbit.

478
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,240
Or an M-Paki somewhere, right?

479
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,240
Those side skirts and I don't know, guys, have you seen a P1 before?

480
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,240
I'm sure I'm going to make the assumption you all have.

481
00:33:55,240 --> 00:34:00,240
It's got this kind of little, I guess you call it, it's almost like a canard that runs into

482
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,240
an axle and axle.

483
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,240
A foil, is it?

484
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,240
A foil, yeah.

485
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,240
I can guarantee that if you parked there in a car park, some child would stop.

486
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,240
Oh, they'd go stumbling?

487
00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:09,240
Yeah.

488
00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:13,240
And I don't know, I'm just sure it's strong enough to withhold some weight because of

489
00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:15,240
the air rope packages with it.

490
00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:19,240
I would be amazed if it's, you know, it could hold seven or eight stones worth of child

491
00:34:19,240 --> 00:34:21,240
in one very small place.

492
00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:23,240
And then what are you going to do?

493
00:34:23,240 --> 00:34:26,240
Flying kick to the seven-year-old child?

494
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:27,240
I don't know.

495
00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:31,240
I don't even bundle them in a boot to either take them to pay for it.

496
00:34:31,240 --> 00:34:36,240
Anyway, that's P1, that's Senna.

497
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:44,240
Now we're into Gordon Murray, so I might actually see a good friend of mine if he's

498
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:47,240
knocking around here.

499
00:34:47,240 --> 00:34:51,240
Scott, if you're around, it'd be nice to see you.

500
00:34:51,240 --> 00:34:58,240
These will definitely be running up the hills today.

501
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:01,240
I think there's all the senior car parks.

502
00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:03,240
It's going to be going up, yeah.

503
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:06,240
This is the list of cars that are going to go up the hill.

504
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:09,240
This is the paddock for everybody that's running the hill.

505
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:20,240
So T50, pro-drive derived, spirituals of the car,

506
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:24,240
spirituals of success as the McLaren F1.

507
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:26,240
Is this the one that sucks itself to the ground?

508
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:29,240
Fankar, it is the Fankar, yeah.

509
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:34,240
So we'll get around this photographer so I don't ruin his shot.

510
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:37,240
There we go, Dario Fanchitti.

511
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:47,240
Yeah, very impressive, okay.

512
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,240
I mean, it's serious, okay, isn't it?

513
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:03,240
I mean, this is an engineer's dream, this car.

514
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:09,240
I kind of respect Gordon for doing his own thing on his terms.

515
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:15,240
I think that's the thing you'd say about this car is that it's his brainchild, his design.

516
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:17,240
He's nobody, nothing at his age.

517
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:21,240
He's going to do everything on his own terms, and I think that for me is it.

518
00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:29,240
I think that's a great thing about this car, that it's going to be up next to it.

519
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:35,240
Oh yeah, that's a really great short, which actually is that you can just,

520
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:38,240
I mean, you wouldn't be respectful, and everybody is thankfully very respectful,

521
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:45,240
but these cars are right in front of you for you to look at all the detail up close.

522
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:51,240
No big, you know, fences around here or anything, stuff like that.

523
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:54,240
And I haven't seen this up front.

524
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:56,240
Looking at the distance.

525
00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:58,240
What's the Lotus test driving?

526
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:01,240
Who was talking to me about the Gavincershaw?

527
00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:03,240
Oh, Gavincershaw, yeah, yeah, yeah.

528
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:08,240
So if you haven't listened to Nick's Yorbaush story,

529
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:13,240
he talks about this, about the purchase, or near purchase of a Lotus Amira,

530
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:18,240
and yeah, Gavincershaw trying to do the hard sell, which works on the day.

531
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:22,240
Would I fit in it, and then the Gavincershaw came out,

532
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:25,240
who was the same size as me, and it's built for him to drive.

533
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:26,240
Yeah, yeah.

534
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,240
Okay, yeah, I'll fit in it then.

535
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:35,240
So can you just give me the pros, Tom, and that number, please?

536
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:37,240
Do you have a SROAD legal?

537
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:39,240
Oh yeah, 100% a SROAD legal.

538
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:44,240
So this is the, I might understand, I'll talk to Dario in a minute, and ask.

539
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:47,240
But yeah, I think this is one of the, yeah, pre-series prototypes.

540
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:49,240
So I'm pretty sure this is the one that's been tested on the road,

541
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:52,240
one that Gordon drove the first time.

542
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:54,240
Yeah, very special.

543
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:02,240
One of the bespoke luggage pack that they did on the car on F1.

544
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:04,240
I would imagine so.

545
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:09,240
Yeah, there will be, yeah, there will be something.

546
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:13,240
Dario, morning.

547
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:14,240
How are you doing?

548
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:15,240
I'm very well, how are you?

549
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:16,240
Good.

550
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:18,240
Uh, engineering YouTube and podcast.

551
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:21,240
First time I've seen T-50 up close.

552
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:22,240
What an impressive vehicle.

553
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:24,240
I mean, I don't need to tell you, right?

554
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:26,240
You've been involved from very early on in this, so...

555
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,240
Yeah, it's a mega thing, yeah.

556
00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:29,240
Yeah.

557
00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:32,240
And I think your favourite detail out of the whole car

558
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:35,240
is the only thing that stands out for you as a...

559
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:37,240
If you, if you want thing, I mean, this is Gordon's brain,

560
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:40,240
Chardio's nothing to anybody at this stage in his career,

561
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:42,240
but there's got to be something for you that you think,

562
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:44,240
actually, everything that's been designed,

563
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:46,240
this is my one thing that I love.

564
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:48,240
It's got to be the complete package.

565
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:49,240
Right.

566
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:50,240
It's got to be everything.

567
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:52,240
All the pieces of the jigsaw put together,

568
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:55,240
and I think it's the way the usability,

569
00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:57,240
I was taking it about in the M1 two days ago.

570
00:38:57,240 --> 00:38:58,240
Yeah.

571
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:01,240
Sitting in it, 8 to 5, listening to podcasts.

572
00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:03,240
And then the next thing, you know,

573
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:05,240
that's good round-darring from Chardio.

574
00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:06,240
Right.

575
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:08,240
It's so usable, but...

576
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,240
the engine...

577
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:13,240
I mean, I've watched...

578
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:18,240
Honestly, the videos I saw of you laughing your ass off driving it,

579
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:19,240
I mean, it's just...

580
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:21,240
And same with Gordon, with his first drive,

581
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:22,240
when you hand the keys over,

582
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:24,240
and that stands out for me,

583
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:26,240
it's like the hairs go up into your arms,

584
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,240
and it's spining, you know.

585
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:31,240
I think the one...

586
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:33,240
The one part,

587
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:35,240
I think to get this whole thing under a thousand kilos,

588
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:36,240
is quite...

589
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:37,240
Obviously, there's compromise.

590
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:39,240
You know, things like the luggage bay doesn't have...

591
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:41,240
They're not lined in, you know,

592
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:42,240
because people need that.

593
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:43,240
Otherwise, you do that,

594
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:44,240
then you go do that,

595
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:45,240
then you've got a bigger break, you know.

596
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:47,240
Actually, you don't have to put bigger breaks,

597
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:48,240
because this is the smallest break,

598
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:50,240
so you can find it still massively.

599
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:51,240
And that, for me, is...

600
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:54,240
I mean, I'm going with my charge of engineering,

601
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:55,240
I'm a design engineer myself,

602
00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:57,240
I'm building a 550, kind of like a Radford,

603
00:39:57,240 --> 00:39:59,240
so Lotus chassis, one-eleven chassis,

604
00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:01,240
carbon body, air-cooled engine,

605
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:03,240
and that's my inspiration.

606
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:04,240
I've got a friend that actually works for GMA,

607
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:06,240
as well as a design engineer.

608
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:08,240
So, for me, it's...

609
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:09,240
What you've just said about...

610
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:10,240
It's the smallest break package you can get,

611
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,240
and it'll still be exactly what it needed.

612
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:13,240
It's actually too much.

613
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:14,240
Exactly.

614
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:16,240
And the amount of people that design stuff,

615
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:17,240
and it's just...

616
00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:19,240
It's excessive, for the point of being excessive.

617
00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:21,240
We've had to take the great scoops off the target,

618
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:23,240
because it was overflowing with rain.

619
00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:24,240
Right.

620
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:28,240
So, I've repeated stops, well more than 200,000 hours,

621
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:30,240
we've had a pretty great race.

622
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:31,240
Great maths.

623
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:32,240
So, we've taken those off.

624
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:34,240
Is that included in hot weather testing as well?

625
00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:35,240
It's still the same thing.

626
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:36,240
Makes no difference.

627
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:39,240
We've lost some weight in some two-mights.

628
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:42,240
I think the one thing that doesn't...

629
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:44,240
Everybody talks about the engine, the weight, right?

630
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:46,240
It's called dampers.

631
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:48,240
And they're passive, right?

632
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:50,240
There's no kind of active...

633
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:53,240
It's R53, a bunch of rally guys.

634
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:58,240
And this thing rides better than any modern car.

635
00:40:58,240 --> 00:40:59,240
Right.

636
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:01,240
It's nuts.

637
00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:02,240
It's the thing, right?

638
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:04,240
So, when's your one being delivered?

639
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:05,240
It's going to be a while.

640
00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:06,240
Is it?

641
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:07,240
Yeah, because it sort of...

642
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:11,240
First car goes out into the month.

643
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:14,240
It's probably going to be a year on the production cars.

644
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:18,240
Then the prototypes and everything will get delivered to customers.

645
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:20,240
And I'll get mine at the end of the engine.

646
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:21,240
Thank you.

647
00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:23,240
So, I'm going to come later.

648
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:26,240
I would think that would be my...

649
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:30,240
...engine next year.

650
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:31,240
Okay.

651
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:32,240
Have you got a spec?

652
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:34,240
I mean, you've spent enough time around the factory,

653
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:36,240
and you know, have you got a kind of like,

654
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:37,240
I know what the interior is going to look like?

655
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:38,240
It's orange right now.

656
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:39,240
Is it?

657
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:40,240
The orange has been used.

658
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:42,240
I didn't realise it was orange.

659
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:44,240
I like it because it's heritage colour.

660
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:46,240
The first car was that colour.

661
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:49,240
And it's a prototype for the bodywork.

662
00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:52,240
It's a design that's going to be used in life and everything.

663
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:54,240
But it's going to have a full rebuild before it gets to it.

664
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:55,240
Right, okay.

665
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:56,240
Because I've asked for that.

666
00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:58,240
You can ask for it, or you can just leave it as is.

667
00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:00,240
We've got some customers that will hold it.

668
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:02,240
Yeah, the Japanese call it Wabi-Sami,

669
00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:05,240
and it's kind of the...

670
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:08,240
...how X-Men ageing naturally are retaining all of its history.

671
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:09,240
Yeah.

672
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:11,240
I would have completely understood if you'd been like,

673
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:13,240
no, no, the battle scars, I want the kind of...

674
00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:15,240
...the stone chips, you want a fresh build from scratch.

675
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:16,240
I might keep the bodywork.

676
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:18,240
Well, I will keep the bodywork.

677
00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:20,240
I'll keep the car when I take it off.

678
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:22,240
Classic boot production bodywork on it.

679
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:23,240
Right, okay.

680
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:25,240
I don't know what I'm going to do with it.

681
00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:30,240
This colour works out really well.

682
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:31,240
Yeah, definitely.

683
00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:33,240
I had a Lotus Elise.

684
00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:35,240
It was very similar to this.

685
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:37,240
Yeah, it's stunning.

686
00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:38,240
Good.

687
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:41,240
This was the first one we put silver wheels on.

688
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:42,240
I love them.

689
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:44,240
Oh, honestly, black is dead, right?

690
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:47,240
It's just unnecessary in Otoly.

691
00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:49,240
And I've seen a few bits and pieces.

692
00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:52,240
The singer stand, in fact, got the Spider-R rest

693
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:53,240
and the Porsche stand.

694
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:55,240
That's the same, it's got blue and silver.

695
00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:57,240
I give it a two or that, yes.

696
00:42:57,240 --> 00:42:59,240
I love that.

697
00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:00,240
You like it?

698
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:04,240
Would I have a standard one, though?

699
00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:07,240
I'd be careful with the intake's very noisy.

700
00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:09,240
Oh, yeah, it's there, isn't it?

701
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:11,240
When you're revving, I put my hand on the intake

702
00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:13,240
and the go-kart choking up the go-kart.

703
00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:14,240
Really?

704
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:16,240
Really a lot of substance.

705
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:19,240
Yeah, so it's very cool.

706
00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:20,240
All right, I love the C-class.

707
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:22,240
I love the DLS, the turbo.

708
00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:25,240
The DLS-T, they do the 935.

709
00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:27,240
I've got to be honest for me, and I was saying this

710
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:29,240
to the singer guys, completely honest.

711
00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:32,240
I think stopping it at the turbo study

712
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:35,240
and then kind of keeping it within that DLS turbo study,

713
00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:37,240
that's for me where the happy point is.

714
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:40,240
I get Rob's intent because he's been working on that.

715
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:42,240
You know, that's just nuts.

716
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:45,240
I mean, it's wake up in six rep balls in the morning,

717
00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:47,240
that sort of thing.

718
00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:50,240
I've been with the singer boys like my brother works.

719
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:52,240
Yeah, of course, yeah.

720
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:54,240
I love what they do.

721
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:56,240
They build my car, it's stunning.

722
00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:59,240
Even the classic gets faster.

723
00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:01,240
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

724
00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:03,240
That's where you drive, isn't it?

725
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:06,240
That's where you drive down, right?

726
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:08,240
Yeah.

727
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:09,240
Excellent.

728
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:10,240
I'll leave you to it.

729
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:12,240
It's been an absolute pleasure.

730
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:14,240
Thanks so much, Dario. Have a good day.

731
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:16,240
Take care.

732
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:27,240
Anyway, quick little break, little drink,

733
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:29,240
and now we're on the Porsche stand.

734
00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:32,240
Yes, we are.

735
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:33,240
We are.

736
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:36,240
And the first thing you walk into, apart from the red arrows,

737
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:41,240
going past, which was nice, is the 718 Boxster,

738
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:44,240
and I can't remember what it's called.

739
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:46,240
Style edition.

740
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:53,240
I mean, I love it, but then I'm a bit biased.

741
00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:55,240
No, no, the car itself is lovely.

742
00:44:55,240 --> 00:45:00,240
I'm just not completely sold on the stripe kit and the wheels.

743
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:01,240
No.

744
00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:03,240
Fair play.

745
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:06,240
It's definitely an opportunity to do something different, right?

746
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:07,240
And do you know what?

747
00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:11,240
I'm a bit disappointed they haven't carried the...

748
00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:13,240
What is this car?

749
00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:14,240
Ruby Star.

750
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:15,240
Ruby Star.

751
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:16,240
And I love Ruby Star.

752
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:18,240
This is what they have on the GT3 that we're touring.

753
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:19,240
Yes, yes.

754
00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:20,240
Yeah.

755
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:22,240
So it's a manual car.

756
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:27,240
And it's got the GT4 style wheels,

757
00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:30,240
but slightly different spec, which I think is cool.

758
00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:33,240
I might get those on my own from this point.

759
00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:36,240
If I do a wheel change, I'll buy those.

760
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:42,240
Yeah, I mean, it's standard fare for a...

761
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:44,240
Yeah, this is exactly the same.

762
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:45,240
It's my 718.

763
00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:48,240
Not quite as many nice accents as it's got the stitching and stuff.

764
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:50,240
Yeah, I mean, I think it's a different price point to yours.

765
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:53,240
Yours is like a fully loaded...

766
00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:55,240
They knew what they were doing when they ordered that car.

767
00:45:55,240 --> 00:45:58,240
This is like an order book special.

768
00:45:58,240 --> 00:45:59,240
Yeah.

769
00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:03,240
And what's it got on it?

770
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:06,240
So it's the 2.0-litre, I think, yeah.

771
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:09,240
It's the 2.0-litre 5.1-62.

772
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:14,240
Does that Bermesta?

773
00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:15,240
Good.

774
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:19,240
I thought it would be more than three grand for Bermesta.

775
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:21,240
Because it's such a...

776
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:24,240
I mean, it's so different to your car to my car.

777
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:26,240
Mine's Bose, yours is Bermesta.

778
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:29,240
And the jump is 20 levels in terms of quality.

779
00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:30,240
It's all like two.

780
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:34,240
I'd end any car now that I've just ordered that new X5.

781
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:37,240
I've paid for the extra bowers and Wilkins upgrades.

782
00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:40,240
My AMG, I've paid for the Bermesta upgrade.

783
00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:45,240
For me, for an audiophile, I'll say that easily.

784
00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:48,240
That's always essential for me.

785
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:52,240
Taken GTS of that.

786
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:55,240
I mean, it looks great.

787
00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:56,240
What's that?

788
00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:03,240
I'm just trying to think, at what point would I buy a Taycan?

789
00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:06,240
Taycan, I've never worked out how you pronounce it.

790
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:07,240
Taycan, Taycan.

791
00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:08,240
Actually, pop in the comments below.

792
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:11,240
Let me know what I pronounce Taycan, Taycan.

793
00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:14,240
Yeah.

794
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:16,240
Ballistic car.

795
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:20,240
It's the ultimate car if you've got a family, right?

796
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:21,240
If I didn't have...

797
00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:23,240
Two kids, not more than two kids.

798
00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:29,240
If I had two kids, not four, it would definitely be a possibility for me.

799
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:35,240
I mean, there is a massive benefitting kind, which is a bit boring to talk about,

800
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:40,240
but electric car owners, you're suddenly not having to...

801
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:41,240
It's a good...

802
00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:43,240
Well, it's a lot more expensive than a Tesla,

803
00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:46,240
but at the same time, it's got the poor quality of it.

804
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:47,240
And it looks amazing.

805
00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:48,240
It does, yeah.

806
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:50,240
It's funny, because like, I'm pictures, I'm like,

807
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:54,240
nah, I can take them on even, and then you see them in person, and it's...

808
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:56,240
It's the sport charisma for me.

809
00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:58,240
I don't like the hatchback.

810
00:47:58,240 --> 00:47:59,240
Yeah.

811
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:00,240
Yeah.

812
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:01,240
I had one for a weekend.

813
00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:05,240
It was amazing, but for me, it just felt like...

814
00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:12,240
My Porsche is my fun car, and it's my go-out of the weekend, have a blast around.

815
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:15,240
This, to me, if I was sat behind a desk all the time,

816
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:18,240
and I didn't have to have anything practical,

817
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:20,240
and this could be the...

818
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:21,240
The filming app for that.

819
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:26,240
Yeah, yeah, it could be the company car answer.

820
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:28,240
And it's still...

821
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:30,240
I mean, it's ludicrous figures, right?

822
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:33,240
Factory limits to 255 miles an hour.

823
00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:37,240
3.2 seconds to 60 miles an hour, or 62 is...

824
00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:38,240
And they do...

825
00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:39,240
Rapid.

826
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:40,240
Super quick.

827
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:43,240
This one's actually got five seats.

828
00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:45,240
So you could do three kids.

829
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:50,240
Well, I'd say two and a half, I wouldn't want to sit three big ones in the back.

830
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:53,240
Yeah, it's small.

831
00:48:53,240 --> 00:48:55,240
The boot space on it...

832
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:01,240
Boot space, mate?

833
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:08,240
I mean, the reality is some of the listeners will be family owners,

834
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:10,240
they'll have kids in tow.

835
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:12,240
I know nothing about bush chairs and prams.

836
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:14,240
Can you get what you need in the back of that?

837
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:15,240
I think you could...

838
00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:19,240
For a small family, I wouldn't want to be taking two little kids and all that stuff with it.

839
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:22,240
But I definitely think it's a four-person car.

840
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:25,240
It could be a comfortable family car.

841
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:27,240
I mean, it is just...

842
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:30,240
To me, it looks like a Batmobile.

843
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:31,240
Yeah.

844
00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:32,240
Would you...

845
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:33,240
I mean, this is a...

846
00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:34,240
I don't know what you call it.

847
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:36,240
A mid-blue.

848
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:37,240
I think that's a shark blue.

849
00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:38,240
Shark blue, yeah.

850
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:40,240
Shark blue.

851
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:42,240
So...

852
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:43,240
Shark blue?

853
00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:44,240
Club blue.

854
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:45,240
Club blue.

855
00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:46,240
What was it, sorry?

856
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:47,240
It's a club blue.

857
00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:48,240
Is that a PCS or is that just...

858
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:49,240
PCS, yeah.

859
00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:50,240
Right, so...

860
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:51,240
Yeah, similar, though.

861
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:52,240
Yeah.

862
00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:53,240
See where you get your shark for.

863
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:54,240
Yeah.

864
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:55,240
Yeah.

865
00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:56,240
Very nice.

866
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:59,240
I like the black and the carbon.

867
00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:01,240
I think it's doing really well.

868
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:02,240
It's funny, I would have...

869
00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:04,240
I've been saying all day,

870
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:08,240
I spoke to Singer, I spoke to the Manti guys.

871
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:09,240
Yeah.

872
00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:12,240
And I was saying, I think black is done.

873
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:13,240
That's where it's at.

874
00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:16,240
And actually, this example, the way it's been specced,

875
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:18,240
it makes sense, black makes sense on this car.

876
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:21,240
I disagree because I've got black on my Porsche.

877
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:22,240
Yeah.

878
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:23,240
Yeah.

879
00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:25,240
The great thing is, there's so much choice,

880
00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:26,240
I guess that starts...

881
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:27,240
Well, that's it, right?

882
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:28,240
Yeah, yeah.

883
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:29,240
Yeah.

884
00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:30,240
And the colours very close.

885
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:32,240
PTS and kind of tech equipment,

886
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:34,240
the last sort of 10 or 15 years,

887
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:35,240
really coming to its own,

888
00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:37,240
allowing customers to personalise their vehicles

889
00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:38,240
to do their choice.

890
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:39,240
And that makes such a difference, right?

891
00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:40,240
It does, yeah.

892
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:41,240
Absolutely.

893
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:42,240
What would you...

894
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:44,240
If this was yours, how would you spec it?

895
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:46,240
And forget the salesman picture at the moment.

896
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:47,240
Your car, you've got...

897
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:48,240
Oh, my car.

898
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:49,240
You're sitting there in the configurator,

899
00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:50,240
you've had 15 goes,

900
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:52,240
and this is the one you need to lock in.

901
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:53,240
What do you go for?

902
00:50:53,240 --> 00:50:55,240
Well, I'm not sure.

903
00:50:55,240 --> 00:50:58,240
I like this, and I guess the challenge that I have,

904
00:50:58,240 --> 00:50:59,240
I work for Porsche,

905
00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:00,240
and I work at Head Office already.

906
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:01,240
Right.

907
00:51:01,240 --> 00:51:03,240
So you see so many variations.

908
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:05,240
Blue is always my favourite of mine.

909
00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:06,240
If it wasn't blue, it would be silver.

910
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:07,240
Right, again.

911
00:51:07,240 --> 00:51:08,240
The respect it would which car.

912
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:09,240
Yeah.

913
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:11,240
I would have a white on the black,

914
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:12,240
but I would have some.

915
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:13,240
Right, again.

916
00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:17,240
You know, would I have the fancy roof?

917
00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:18,240
Maybe not.

918
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:19,240
Maybe not, OK.

919
00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:20,240
Yeah.

920
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:22,240
But I'd be thinking 18 race seats,

921
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:23,240
I'd be thinking Burmester.

922
00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:24,240
Yes.

923
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:26,240
And again, irrespective of the car.

924
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:27,240
Yeah.

925
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:28,240
Which model.

926
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:30,240
So it's those sorts of things.

927
00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:31,240
Right.

928
00:51:31,240 --> 00:51:32,240
I wouldn't...

929
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:33,240
So it sounds much more about the living

930
00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:34,240
with the vehicle experience.

931
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:35,240
Absolutely, yeah.

932
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:36,240
Yeah, I would say so.

933
00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:40,240
Right, we could do the new KM,

934
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:42,240
which is coming in August.

935
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:45,240
You could now option 22 inch wheels.

936
00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:47,240
Would I have 22s on it?

937
00:51:47,240 --> 00:51:48,240
No, you know.

938
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:49,240
Right.

939
00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:51,240
Not on my car, I might.

940
00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:53,240
How long have you been working for Porsche?

941
00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:54,240
It's time.

942
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:55,240
Why, right, OK.

943
00:51:55,240 --> 00:51:56,240
So you...

944
00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:59,240
So that's interesting because you've seen the brand of old

945
00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:01,240
a lot in that time, right?

946
00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:02,240
Yeah, absolutely.

947
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:04,240
Yeah, but it's really...

948
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:07,240
And it has, and I think, you know,

949
00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:10,240
whether you're a fan of electric or not,

950
00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:11,240
just really not, it is here.

951
00:52:11,240 --> 00:52:12,240
Sure.

952
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:15,240
But I think Porsche's interpretation of that

953
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:17,240
has kept the integrity of the brand.

954
00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:18,240
Definitely, yeah, yeah.

955
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:20,240
So I'm a KM owner.

956
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:23,240
Nick is a Bobster owner, someone named Bobster owner.

957
00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:25,240
I'm really interested to see what happens

958
00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:26,240
with the next generation.

959
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:27,240
Yeah.

960
00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:28,240
Have you got any insight?

961
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:29,240
I mean, you're not going to shed too much with me,

962
00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:31,240
but have you got any signs of the next generation?

963
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:34,240
An electric Bobster has been running about

964
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:37,240
in Sydney after the past 12 or 15 years.

965
00:52:37,240 --> 00:52:38,240
Right, yeah.

966
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:40,240
And you can't help but thinking about...

967
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:43,240
On mules with, like, a 981 mule and a 718 mule with a...

968
00:52:43,240 --> 00:52:44,240
Yeah.

969
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:45,240
Really, wow.

970
00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:46,240
OK.

971
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:48,240
And for a while, it did have logo on the side as well.

972
00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:49,240
Yeah, it did.

973
00:52:49,240 --> 00:52:50,240
Sure.

974
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:52,240
When you think about it,

975
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:55,240
it's going to be a logical progression.

976
00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:58,240
Same as McCann, BV, his coming lecture.

977
00:52:58,240 --> 00:52:59,240
Yeah.

978
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:03,240
And my hope is that with the research on e-fuels,

979
00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:06,240
which portion are part of the other manufacturers are,

980
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:08,240
can we get to a stage where we can keep

981
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:10,240
in turn up a Boston object?

982
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:13,240
And my personal take on it is...

983
00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:14,240
Wait for this to go.

984
00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:15,240
Yeah.

985
00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:16,240
It's not where it needs to be, right?

986
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:17,240
It's not one or the other.

987
00:53:17,240 --> 00:53:19,240
It's a blend for different purposes.

988
00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:21,240
I think that's where it needs to be.

989
00:53:21,240 --> 00:53:24,240
Because realistically, if...

990
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:25,240
And it's not that far away,

991
00:53:25,240 --> 00:53:27,240
if all of a sudden the switch was caught,

992
00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:29,240
a world would go into a hole.

993
00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:30,240
Of course it would, yeah.

994
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:31,240
Interesting.

995
00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:34,240
From a grid perspective, from a livability perspective,

996
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:36,240
from a range, to make all of this.

997
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:39,240
The infrastructure is nowhere near.

998
00:53:39,240 --> 00:53:40,240
It's not.

999
00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:42,240
And I'm an electrician by trade.

1000
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:43,240
Yeah.

1001
00:53:43,240 --> 00:53:44,240
So we...

1002
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:46,240
They're fitting the car chargers in.

1003
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:47,240
Yeah.

1004
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:51,240
And what we have to jump through now with the network operators,

1005
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:55,240
is if you've got a, say, a cul-de-sac with 20 houses,

1006
00:53:55,240 --> 00:53:57,240
and they all say, I want a charger,

1007
00:53:57,240 --> 00:53:59,240
nope, you can't all have one.

1008
00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:01,240
Because it's all just going to happen there.

1009
00:54:01,240 --> 00:54:03,240
Yeah, it's not there.

1010
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:06,240
So hopefully that will go the way...

1011
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:09,240
If you think of 718, Game & All Box,

1012
00:54:09,240 --> 00:54:13,240
you've got a great place with the batteries behind the seats.

1013
00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:14,240
Yeah.

1014
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:16,240
I mean, that's the most logical car to do it with, right?

1015
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:17,240
For sure.

1016
00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:18,240
Because it's central to the car,

1017
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:21,240
so you maintain decent weight distribution in front of rear.

1018
00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:23,240
It's going to be quite low down, I guess.

1019
00:54:23,240 --> 00:54:26,240
Right into the floor, so you're going to pull the car down.

1020
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:27,240
You're not having a...

1021
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:29,240
You've not got that roll centre, you know?

1022
00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:31,240
All that's going to be maintained, so...

1023
00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:33,240
And I think you can force your own many fans

1024
00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:35,240
and shafts the engineers.

1025
00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:37,240
That's a real strength.

1026
00:54:37,240 --> 00:54:39,240
Andreas is going to be pretty choosy about how he does the stuff, right?

1027
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:40,240
Yeah, I think he will.

1028
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:41,240
Yeah, I think he will.

1029
00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:42,240
Sure.

1030
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:45,240
And, you know, when you talk to the guys, the development guys,

1031
00:54:45,240 --> 00:54:50,240
clearly, clearly they are fans, but...

1032
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:54,240
For example, on the new KF,

1033
00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:57,240
there's some new world-first technology on the headlight.

1034
00:54:57,240 --> 00:54:58,240
Right.

1035
00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:02,240
But I've watched a video from the designers only on Tuesday,

1036
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:03,240
and the guys smile and say,

1037
00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:05,240
and we're already working on it.

1038
00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:06,240
Ready.

1039
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:07,240
She's just...

1040
00:55:07,240 --> 00:55:08,240
That's so cool.

1041
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:10,240
So I think he's still excited for the job.

1042
00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:14,240
How you doing?

1043
00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:15,240
Good.

1044
00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:16,240
Paul from the engineering YouTube channel on the podcast.

1045
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:17,240
Hi, how are you?

1046
00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:18,240
Yeah, good.

1047
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:19,240
Good.

1048
00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:20,240
I think that's okay.

1049
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:21,240
That's good.

1050
00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:23,240
So talk me through what we're looking at.

1051
00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:24,240
What's this is...

1052
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:28,240
So this is our first UK-specific market coop.

1053
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:29,240
Okay.

1054
00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:33,240
Obviously completely bespoke to the client.

1055
00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:34,240
Of course.

1056
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:39,240
And there are there a very quiet person that doesn't like to show off, or...

1057
00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:40,240
Yeah, pretty much.

1058
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:41,240
Pretty much.

1059
00:55:41,240 --> 00:55:44,240
Obviously the paint is very, very special.

1060
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:45,240
It is.

1061
00:55:45,240 --> 00:55:46,240
Yeah.

1062
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:47,240
So it's a...

1063
00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:48,240
It's a Perl-S.

1064
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:50,240
Triple-stage paint that's...

1065
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:54,240
It took a lot of work to get correct.

1066
00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:55,240
Right, okay.

1067
00:55:55,240 --> 00:55:56,240
But I think we nailed it.

1068
00:55:56,240 --> 00:55:59,240
So your clients are involved almost from scratch, right?

1069
00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:01,240
They've wiped in the day of first day.

1070
00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:03,240
Open the page and they're right there.

1071
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:04,240
Yeah, exactly.

1072
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:06,240
Open the page and the first...

1073
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:10,240
The way we like to handle the spec is we get color out of the way first.

1074
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:13,240
So mechanical decisions are very easy.

1075
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:17,240
What kind of breaks, what kind of shocks, those are kind of very easy decisions.

1076
00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:20,240
Paint and leather is the one that takes a really, really long time.

1077
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:22,240
Especially if you want to do something special.

1078
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:23,240
Yeah.

1079
00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:24,240
Obviously a lot of clients...

1080
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:28,240
Porsche has such an amazing history and such an amazing catalog of paint colors.

1081
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:29,240
Yeah.

1082
00:56:29,240 --> 00:56:32,240
It's very easy to pick one that is timeless.

1083
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:33,240
Yeah.

1084
00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:34,240
And that kind of scratches your itch.

1085
00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:35,240
Yeah.

1086
00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:39,240
But we also do this where it's basically I want something that we've never done before.

1087
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:41,240
So then that takes a little bit of work.

1088
00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:45,240
And there's an element of restraint in design when you pick something that's so...

1089
00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:46,240
There is.

1090
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:50,240
So part of our responsibility is to protect clients from themselves.

1091
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:51,240
Yeah.

1092
00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:55,240
And we also have to protect our brands and you know, et cetera, et cetera.

1093
00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:58,240
But yeah, there is an element of restraint too as well.

1094
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:05,240
We like to think outside the box when he first told us, sorry, I want a pink car.

1095
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:06,240
Sharp and take a breath.

1096
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:07,240
Are you sure?

1097
00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:08,240
Yeah.

1098
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:09,240
No.

1099
00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:10,240
To be candid, there was a lot of that.

1100
00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:13,240
He sent me a picture of a car and I was like, wow.

1101
00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:15,240
I was like, I don't know about that.

1102
00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:17,240
He's like, yeah, it's got to be that.

1103
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,240
And then, you know...

1104
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,240
That's quite useful though.

1105
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,240
They know their mind well enough to know that they...

1106
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,240
100%.

1107
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,240
That's almost harder to work with somebody that isn't quite clear about what the design

1108
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,240
is.

1109
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:27,240
Exactly.

1110
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,240
And they have to go through like a million.

1111
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,240
Yeah.

1112
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:35,240
I mean, we did probably go through 20 shades of pink before we were like, oh, not one.

1113
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:40,240
So, but it was, it's part of the fun, you know, and we won't ever paint another car this

1114
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,240
color.

1115
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:42,240
Okay.

1116
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,240
And that's our mantra to every one of our clients.

1117
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,240
I mean, that's something I didn't know.

1118
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:46,240
Okay.

1119
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,240
Yeah.

1120
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:48,240
Yeah.

1121
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,240
So, but you guys have done a, I mean, a lot of development work in the last 10 years.

1122
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:56,240
I mean, the Guntherworks is a brand that's exploded, but also the development car to

1123
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:57,240
car seems like it's...

1124
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:58,240
Yeah.

1125
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:59,240
You're leveling up each time I see something coming.

1126
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,240
Yeah, we insist on the car evolving.

1127
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:03,240
Right.

1128
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:04,240
Improving.

1129
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:10,240
So, you know, this is the most recent coupe we've delivered, probably the best coupe we've

1130
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,240
delivered.

1131
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:12,240
Really?

1132
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:16,240
So, well, this is the next kind of car that we'll start delivering next year.

1133
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:17,240
Sure.

1134
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,480
But always trying to evolve, always trying to get better.

1135
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:20,480
Yeah.

1136
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,640
What's your, I mean, remind me what your home circuit is.

1137
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,120
You do a lot of training, it's like Willow Springs, you do.

1138
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,120
Yeah, Willow Springs.

1139
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,420
There's the thermal club is going in there.

1140
00:58:28,420 --> 00:58:29,420
All right.

1141
00:58:29,420 --> 00:58:30,420
But you do a lot of testing.

1142
00:58:30,420 --> 00:58:31,920
Both on track and on road, right?

1143
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:32,920
Yeah.

1144
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:33,920
Exactly.

1145
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:34,920
Exactly.

1146
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,800
We've had a lot of track time to take all the data from that.

1147
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:37,800
Mm-hmm.

1148
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:44,520
our partners, JRZ, really help us to make sure the car is tuned specifically to how we like it.

1149
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,600
So even with that though, things like Springray, Damm, all of that stuff,

1150
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:53,000
is the client involved in kind of what they want? Or you're leading that because you have

1151
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,640
the expertise and the knowledge as to what the car needs? Both. So I know that this car is going

1152
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:04,520
to live in Scotland. I know that he's going to, he likes driving twisty roads. We have other clients

1153
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:11,320
that live in the middle of a metropolis or have cobblestone streets or some clients have their

1154
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:15,320
cars. Basically they just live at a racetrack and that's where the car stays and doesn't do anything

1155
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:21,160
but lap times. So we can set it up for, and that's part of our job too, is to getting to know the

1156
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:26,120
client a little better to make sure that the car is, when it gets delivered to them, that it's

1157
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:32,280
exactly set up how they want it. So there's no more tinkering involved with it. And it's still

1158
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:38,520
passive suspension. Yeah, so the great thing about JRZ2 is you can, you know, they have a brilliant

1159
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:45,880
interface on a phone that you can kind of switch from sport to comfort. So they do a lot of work

1160
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:51,160
in making sure the car is civilized when it needs to be, but also when it's time to, you know,

1161
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:57,960
give it the beans so you can hit a button and it'll step it up. Okay, right. So interior then

1162
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:05,640
proprietary seats or, yeah, one of the most difficult engineering projects for sure to make a

1163
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:11,400
seat that is universal for all body types and compliant is extremely difficult. Yeah, and it's

1164
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:16,440
fixed as well. So you've got that, that you're gonna, again, if you've got variation of, you know,

1165
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,120
again, people like there's a difference between you and I, for example, right? So,

1166
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:25,800
you know, we're able to manipulate the durometer of the cushions as well. So, yeah, if you need

1167
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,520
something a little more in your lumbar, you need something more in your back, you know,

1168
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:33,160
something like that, then we can do that. It is a fixed seat, you know, moves back and forth,

1169
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:37,400
but the brakes doesn't. But, you know, also part of the process is before the car is completely

1170
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:42,200
finished, we have the client in, they sit in the seat, they get it where they want it, pedals,

1171
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,560
they get where they want so we can, you know, once they're much adjustment in the pedal set,

1172
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:49,960
or is that a little bit? Yeah, a little bit. And, you know, part of the process is making it the car

1173
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:56,040
for the client, you know, so that they, it's truly bespoke. It's truly bespoke. So, and it's not one

1174
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,240
of those things where you get in the car, then you have to adjust it when you get it delivered.

1175
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,560
Sure. Once you get it delivered, it's already all adjusted to you just like a tailored suit, right?

1176
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:08,760
Right. A good tailored suit. Great, great analogy, yes. Yes. So, what's your, if you don't mind

1177
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:13,000
me asking, what's your role within Guntherworks? I'm the client liaison. Fine. So, for the UK or

1178
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:22,360
for internationally? Or international, right. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, so, you know, when the client

1179
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:26,520
signs up, they get handed off to me, you know, we talk about finding them a donor, we talk about,

1180
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:33,880
we're talking about spec, paint samples, leather samples, they come to the shop, they drive our

1181
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:39,960
shop car, just to get a feel for what it is. Yeah. Do you find that, so with, cast it with clients,

1182
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:45,240
and have they had much experience with Guntherworks at that point? Is there a variation? Some kind

1183
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:50,280
of just know that that's what they want, or some come out, drive the car, and then think, well,

1184
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,200
there's elements of this, and there's maybe some of the turbo that I like, and it's quite, is it kind

1185
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:59,960
of, what I guess we're trying to get out is the client, do they vary a lot in terms of, yeah.

1186
01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:04,120
Yeah, yeah, they do. One thing that we're extremely lucky is like, we have, we have,

1187
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:10,920
many of our clients have bought several models, so we have, you know, we built 25 coupes,

1188
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,520
built them, delivered them all, we're in the middle of delivering our speedster, we offer 25

1189
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:21,800
of those, and then we're offering 75 turbos, we have, you know, in double digits of clients,

1190
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:26,920
we have purchased all three cars, so they're, I mean, that's, that's, that's, that's high right,

1191
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:32,840
yeah, I mean, that's, you know, we don't, we don't sell cars, we don't advertise, we don't,

1192
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:38,120
we don't have a sales team, you know, customers come to us through our clients, and they're the

1193
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:42,680
most important part of our business, right, because of their loyalty, because of, they know that

1194
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:47,080
they can pick up the phone and I'll always answer, and, you know, something's wrong with the car,

1195
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,840
or something needs to happen with the car, we'll get it sorted. Which leads me on to

1196
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:56,920
maintenance, servicing, warranty, I like, people don't tend to touch on that stuff, because they're,

1197
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,120
the delivery part, they're kind of getting, receiving the car for the first time, but there's

1198
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,400
an ownership experience, right, so how does that work with kind of parts? So, I mean, the great thing

1199
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is that the cars, if anything, is that they're way more simple than the original car, right, so

1200
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:14,360
the engine bay is very tidy, very simple, you know, we don't, we run it on canvas, I guess, yeah,

1201
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:19,880
exactly, we run electric AC, so all the plumbing is gone, right, so if someone needs to work on the

1202
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:25,640
car, if you haven't experienced air-cooled mechanic, he can work on this car, right, change the oil,

1203
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:32,760
you can do a valve adjustment if it needs to, we have, we run a MoTeC ECU, and so if something

1204
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,840
needs, if you fire it up and you say, oh, something just doesn't sound right, you know, you can,

1205
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:41,320
get it done almost as though, we have a tuner in-house, he plugs into his laptop,

1206
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:48,360
you plug into your car, adjust it on the fly, so, you know, it's, it's part of that, you know,

1207
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:53,000
part of that's, part of what sets us apart too from similar companies, is that, you know, we like,

1208
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:58,440
we want to grow, we want to build more cars, obviously, but our client base is so important to

1209
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,320
us, because there are big, big changes. That's what's really, honestly, this conversation,

1210
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,720
that's the bit that's coming over, is the, the car's important, but the client is clearly

1211
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:11,400
the most important thing to you guys. 100%, yeah, yeah, I mean, they are there, the reason we're

1212
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:16,760
here, they're the reason we've kept going, and why we've been so successful so far, so, you know,

1213
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:23,080
and there are, you know, there are the, there are our biggest advertising wing, it's our clients, so, yeah.

1214
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:27,400
And people essentially, are passionate about both the brand, and the Porsche brand in general,

1215
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:31,160
you clearly got a, you know, love for that as well, right? Yes, absolutely. Do you,

1216
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:35,240
have you, do you drive a Porsche now, or? No, I don't, I have young Pilton, I drive an SUV.

1217
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:42,280
Oh, my heart, please. But, I drive every single car before this. Of course you do, of course you do.

1218
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:49,640
Part of the QC process is after the team finishes it, then me and the owner, Peter,

1219
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:54,760
we take it on a 20, 50 mile drive, we come back with a list of things, yeah, those things get fixed,

1220
01:04:55,400 --> 01:05:00,440
we do another drive, as soon as the list starts like this, and then as soon as it gets basically,

1221
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:06,760
to, you know, smaller than, okay, we stamp it, and it's ready to go. So talk to me about the turbo,

1222
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:13,480
thanks. The next car that we're gonna start delivering, we'll start those Q3 of next year,

1223
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:21,800
we're gonna build 75 of these, so, rear wheel drive, four-liter,

1224
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,680
twin turbo, also built by Jeff Gamroth at Rossport, outside of Portland.

1225
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:32,600
I mean, that's, you say that name and you immediately go, whoa, there's one,

1226
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:39,640
he's the guy, yeah, he's a legend. So, he built all our engines, he built this engine for us as

1227
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:50,040
well, and this will be a whole other follow-axe, this is 750 horsepower with 560 pound-peter torque.

1228
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:55,800
So, you, there's, I mean, they're not shy of tire, but traction still has to play a part.

1229
01:05:55,800 --> 01:06:00,200
So, you know, one of the things that we did recently is, you know, we have a mule also that

1230
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:05,560
got one of the engines, and, you know, we put the engine in, we drove it, and we scared the

1231
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:09,960
bejesus out of everybody. So, that's gotta be a fun day, right? Yeah, I kind of went back to the

1232
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,720
drawing board and said, all right, what's, you know, what do we need to do? The, there are,

1233
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:19,560
are, you know, keeping that kind of client focus in mind, is like, we don't want to have a car that

1234
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,960
someone's not going to drive because they're scared of it, and, you know, we want people to drive the

1235
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:29,240
cars. So, you know, we're gonna, we're contemplating offering a few different packages, something maybe

1236
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:33,320
a little bit more civil, something, you know, we do have a lot of clients that say, I want to go to

1237
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:37,400
the store, I want to pick up my kids in it, you know, I want to be able to drive it to the shop,

1238
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:43,240
so I want to be able to drive it to work, and sometimes, you know, having that much horsepower

1239
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:48,040
is, can be a little bit intimidating. Again, especially depending on your pedal modulation,

1240
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:52,040
you've got like a small amount of modulation, and you're on and off, that's hard, right? So, we'll

1241
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:57,080
have traction control, we'll have driving modes on this, we'll have a valet mode, we'll have a

1242
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:01,480
normal mode, and then we'll have a, you know, bonkers mode, like I said, traction control,

1243
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:08,760
and then, you know, a few different things have changed in this car. This is about 97% of what

1244
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,120
the production car will be, there'll be a few aesthetic changes in the inside. Okay.

1245
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,960
I mean, for most people, you would think this is full production, right? I walked up to her and was

1246
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:24,520
like, why, they finished? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, again, it screams the attention to detail that you

1247
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:30,040
guys have had, that this is close, but it's not quite there. Yeah, it's not quite there yet. And

1248
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:34,360
like, you know, I don't know how many, how much experience you have working with creatives,

1249
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:38,680
but you know, something can change in the last second. Absolutely. I don't, you know, I don't

1250
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,600
like it, I don't want it, and then, you know, you're, you're changing something. Yeah. And that's,

1251
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:49,160
you know, Peter, Peter's works like that, and you know, he'll, you know, and you understand

1252
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:55,320
actually in the morning saying, we're going to change this deep breath. Okay. There's something

1253
01:07:55,320 --> 01:08:01,000
about that creative that you don't want to stifle that because you know, something, the gold comes

1254
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:05,320
from that, right? The thread that runs through it. You don't want to start, you start limiting that.

1255
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:12,040
And you lose the part that made this right. So totally. Yeah. And you have to let, you have to

1256
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:16,360
give creatives that room. Both from a kind of content creator point of view. They think this

1257
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:20,760
is fascinating, but talking to you about the build process, there's a part I'm listening for me as

1258
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,840
well, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm actually planning on coming out to the States next year

1259
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:28,840
because I've had some in-bites. So I don't know if I can grab your card or something and then

1260
01:08:29,480 --> 01:08:35,480
I'd love to come out and thank you. Yeah. And whether it's a tour or whether it's a, I don't know,

1261
01:08:35,480 --> 01:08:39,960
what I can squeeze out. Yeah. I'd love that. Yeah. Give me a call. We'll see what's happening. And if

1262
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:48,360
we're, we're around and we've got time, I'll, I'd like to show you around. Of course. Yeah. I love that. I love that. And thank you so much for taking the time.

1263
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:52,200
I really appreciate it. And I've loved talking to you. It's been a pleasure. Thanks so much. Be well. Take care.

1264
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:02,760
So I've walked away from Guntherworks, deeply impressed.

1265
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:20,760
I mean, they're a phenomenal company. I like the, the Matt Farrah, his interaction with Guntherworks and the fact that he's tested a number of them and seen the iterations grow and move and kind of the development that faces taking place. And what we're left with is,

1266
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:37,160
yeah, I want to go and have a go at one. I don't know if that's going to be possible, but I am going to work hard to achieve it. So yeah, I hope you enjoyed that conversation there with kind of the client liaison manager for Guntherworks

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01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:52,520
internationally. But what a lovely chap. Really nice to speak to him. And he really took time out to kind of, I mean, it's a busy stand. There's a lot of people around. So yeah, I hope you enjoyed that. I certainly did.

1268
01:09:55,320 --> 01:10:07,080
Well, I hope you enjoyed that episode on the Festival of Speed 2023. I certainly enjoyed it. That's the fourth year I think I've gone to Festival of Speed now. I might give it a miss next year, just to keep it

1269
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:11,960
fresh so it doesn't feel like I'm doing the same thing. The layout is basically the same each year.

1270
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We'll see. What I do want to mention though before I head off and leave you to your week is the Winchester Coffee Roasters and

1271
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Rengineering Cars and Coffee event on the 3rd of September. So it's a Sunday 1 till 4 in the afternoon. Sunday 3rd of September 1 till 4. Tickets are available. They are absolutely free. It's not being done to raise any money at all. It is literally an opportunity for me to get to know more of you. Maybe shoot some your Porsche stories stuff and just have a nice time. Cars and Coffee.

1272
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Standard Sunday morning. Cars and Coffee. Winchester Coffee Roasters are amazing. I am a massive coffee guy and I'm very, very fussy about this type of coffee. The roast, the blend, or not a blend if it's a single origin, and they absolutely cracked it. It's literally just off the most way.

1273
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So a piece of cake to get to off the A34 and off the M3. So you can't miss it. Check out Eventbrite. Head over to Outrangeering UK and the links in the bio for the tickets for that. Absolutely free. I hope to see you there.

1274
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:43,400
Anyway, have a lovely week. Now I'm back in the UK. You should be able to get these out pretty damn regularly. Take care for now and bye bye from me.