1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,500 The Big Scary Show is brought to you in art by Dark Imaginings. 2 00:00:04,500 --> 00:00:13,000 Web design, creepy changing portraits, and much much more, DarkImimaginings.com 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,500 Welcome boys and goons! 4 00:00:16,500 --> 00:00:22,500 It's time once again to kick open the old mausoleum door! 5 00:00:22,500 --> 00:00:29,000 And see what climbs out! 6 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:39,000 Clawing his way out of a fetid grave, he's drew, aka, rabid badger! 7 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:50,000 Pull up a slab with Jim Millspar, in his award-winning role as the Professor of Torture, meet hook Jim! 8 00:00:50,000 --> 00:01:00,000 Jason Storm is here as fan-favorite, gothic commentator, Storm! 9 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Do you smell something burning? It must be Salem's favorite old prone, Johnna Summers! 10 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Now light a torch, grab your pitchfork, and make like a bunch of terrified villagers! 11 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:38,000 You found another episode of The Big Scary Show! 12 00:01:38,000 --> 00:02:00,000 The school is out, temperatures are up, and it's the beginning of summer, and something that most of us do at the beginning of summer is think back, years pass, and take a little walk down nostalgia. 13 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Remember all the things that made things fun, and why Summers were cool, and got us thinking of the anticipation to October and to Haunting in Halloween. 14 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,000 And nostalgia for Halloween, that's always been a fun part for us. 15 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:23,000 So this week, with The Big Scary Show, episode 292, we're going to take a little look at nostalgia. 16 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,000 But first, we've got all kinds of good fun for you. Badger has deadline news. 17 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,000 He's going to keep you up to date on what's going on in the Haunt industry. 18 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Can't just be going on nostalgia alone, you need to know what's happening now, not just what's happened before. 19 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:42,000 And in addition to that, Badger's got a really awesome interview with Felicia Rose. 20 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:51,000 Meat Hook Jim is got Between the Corpses for you, and he'll be discussing hanging the drop. 21 00:02:51,000 --> 00:03:02,000 That should be quite an interesting feature. And Jonah has asked the old crone, and as always, great topics, something really to pick into and get into. 22 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:08,000 She's going to be going over protecting your brand, and when you might need to rebrand. 23 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:18,000 I'll be ranting in the Haunt minute. I've got another animal in the headlines, which might be either fun to think about, with it going insane, 24 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,000 or it might be some inspiration for your Haunt. 25 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,000 We also go down Nostalgia Road with the Round Table of Terror. 26 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:36,000 We've pulled in a couple of Haunts that have gotten together. These awesome Haunts from across the country specialize in nostalgia for Haunting. 27 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,000 So there's a lot of questions with that that we answer. 28 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:45,000 So it's going to be a lot of fun talking with Aiden, Brandon, Carol, and Nicole as they speak with the Gohose about nostalgia. 29 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:52,000 How can that be accomplished, and is the past the future of Haunting? 30 00:03:52,000 --> 00:04:05,000 Grissom Getaway, all kinds of awesome music. Much, much more. Turn up the AC, turn up the volume, get out of the heat, and enjoy whatever you've got going on for a meal off the barbecue. 31 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Because it's time for Big Scary Show, Episode 292. 32 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:45,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 33 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 34 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 35 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 36 00:05:55,000 --> 00:06:05,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 37 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:15,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 38 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:25,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 39 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 40 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:45,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 41 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:55,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 42 00:06:55,000 --> 00:07:05,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 43 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:15,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 44 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:25,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 45 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 46 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:45,000 Aiden P. 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Finnegan 85 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:25,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 86 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:35,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 87 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:45,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 88 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 89 00:17:55,000 --> 00:18:05,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 90 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:15,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 91 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:25,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 92 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:35,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 93 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:45,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 94 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:55,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 95 00:18:55,000 --> 00:19:05,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 96 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:35,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 97 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 98 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:15,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 99 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:25,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 100 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:55,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 101 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 102 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:35,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 103 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:45,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 104 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:15,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 105 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:45,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 106 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:15,000 Aiden P. Finnegan 107 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:51,000 Hello everyone this is Drew Badger, this is Deadline News for episode 292 and unfortunately we have not one but two very sad stories from our own. 108 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:57,000 Story number one comes to us courtesy of Midway Wicked Woods in Statesville, North Carolina. 109 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:07,000 Randy Jenkins, owner of Midway Wicked Woods in Statesville, died unexpectedly on June 14th at the age of 67. 110 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:16,000 He had run Midway Wicked Woods for over 25 years. He was a man of integrity, compassion, a smart entrepreneur, and a man to look up to. 111 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:21,000 There weren't many like Randy around and he will be missed. 112 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:33,000 The status of Midway Wicked Woods at this time is unknown. He leaves behind his wife Jocelyn, two children, and several grandchildren. 113 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:39,000 We have this sad news also from the Dent Schoolhouse in Cincinnati. 114 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:52,000 He left a spotlight and give thanks to a Dent worker that sadly passed away this past week. Alexis Hadsell passed away from cancer on June 21st at the all too young age of 28. 115 00:24:52,000 --> 00:25:01,000 She embedded our attraction with so many warm and lasting memories. She was a natural entertainer and made thousands of guests scream every year. 116 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:12,000 She was an actor, makeup artist, our lunch lady, co-worker, and dear friend. We will miss you and this year we scare for you. 117 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:39,000 The big scary show sends its deepest condolences to the family and friends of Randy Lee Jenkins and Alexa Hadsell, Midway Wicked Woods and the Dent Schoolhouse and offers up this extended moment of silence. 118 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:45,000 On a little lighter note we have some hiring news from a petrified forest in Altamont Springs, Florida. 119 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:59,000 Join us for a Petrified Forest Hiring Days, working here as a no brainer. If you're looking for a killer side hustle come out either July 8th or 15th from 9am to noon or 2 to 6pm. 120 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:12,000 We have openings in 8 departments. Bring your ID, your availability from September and October and don't miss out on this unique opportunity. You must be 16 years of age with parental consent. 121 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:20,000 Visit apetrifiedforest.com for more details. 122 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:33,000 We have more hiring news this time from Schmitz Farm Haunt in Melville, New York. We're now hiring for the upcoming season. To work at the Haunt, choose which audition date you would like to attend and fill out the form on our website. 123 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:42,000 You must be 18 or older to apply and help us bring the horror to the Haunt this year so we can scare the Schmit out of you. 124 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:51,000 You can find that form at their website schmitzfarmhaunt.com. 125 00:26:51,000 --> 00:27:00,000 We have this news from the Chippewa Lake slaughterhouse in Chippewa Lake, Ohio. The carvers are seeking more freaks to join their twisted family. 126 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:07,000 Become part of our killer cast at one of the highest rated and most realistic haunted attractions in the state of Ohio. 127 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:19,000 The carvers are open from September 29th through November 4th. Apply today at slaughterhouseohio.com. 128 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:25,000 We have still more hiring news this time from Fright Farm in Smithfield, Pennsylvania. 129 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:32,000 We're now hiring for scare actors. Join our Fright Farm family and get paid to scare people. 130 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:44,000 No experience necessary. You must be 16 years or older and we're proud to offer a competitive nightly pay rate as well as hot home cooked meals to our staff every Friday and Saturday night. 131 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:49,000 Fright Farm has been scaring southern Pennsylvania and surrounding areas for over 30 years. 132 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:58,000 If you would like to join our team of talented and devoted employees, apply at frightfarm.com. 133 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:05,000 If you have questions, contact amber at frightfarm.com with any questions. 134 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:12,000 Still more hiring news this time from the Eloise Asylum in Westland, Michigan. 135 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:19,000 Summer may just be starting, but we're preparing for Halloween here at the asylum. Come on out and meet the team. 136 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:24,000 We're hiring for actors, customer service staff, event staff, and makeup artists. 137 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:35,000 Send us a message today. Also, anyone who is a guest employee during our off season, this is the time to message and get your interview in so you can come back for the haunt season. 138 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:45,000 Get more information at their Facebook page, facebook.com slash the Eloise Asylum. 139 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:56,000 Guess what? More hiring news this time from Lake Hickory Haunts in Hickory, North Carolina. Lake Hickory Haunts is now hiring all positions for the upcoming season. 140 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:04,000 We're now accepting applications for actors, makeup artists, customer service members, parking attendants, food workers, sales, and more. 141 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,000 Join our amazing team and get paid to scare people. 142 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:17,000 Lake Hickory Haunts is set to be the biggest and best show ever delivered by our haunt and we hope you will join us this season. 143 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:27,000 Our schedule runs from September 16th through November 4th. We can't wait to meet you and we greatly look forward to having you as a member of our 2023 team. 144 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:37,000 Apply now. Go to LakeHickoryHaunts.com for an application. 145 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:42,000 We've been still more hiring this time from Laurel's House of Horror in Laurel, Maryland. 146 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:52,000 Come be a part of Maryland's largest indoor haunted house. We're hiring scare actors, event staff, makeup artists, escape room game masters, and more. 147 00:29:52,000 --> 00:30:00,000 You must be 16 to apply. We'll be having open casting July 8th from 11am to 3.30pm. 148 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:10,000 You must be able to join the family. Email LaurelHauntCrew at gmail.com for any questions and get more information at their Facebook page, facebook.com. 149 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:17,000 M.D. Scariest Haunted House. 150 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,000 And finally we have this convention update from Spookala in Tampa, Florida. 151 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:31,000 We have a special guest announcement. Spookala is extremely excited to bring you the voice of Jack Skellington, Chris Sarandon. 152 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:43,000 Chris Sarandon is well known for being the voice of Jack in The Nightmare Before Christmas, Jerry in Fright Night, Prince Humperdink in The Princess Bride, and so many more. 153 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:57,000 For tickets to Spookala happening October 6th through the 8th, please go to Spookala.com. 154 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:05,000 Remember folks, if you have news in the haunted house, Halloween, or horror industries and you want it on the show, email it to us. 155 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:18,000 News at bigscaryshow.com and we'll get it on the show. No news is too big or too small. 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We've been to Transworld, we've been to Fear Expo, we've been to Midwest Haunters. 172 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:09,400 We've seen all the cool, brand spanking new products for 2023. 173 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,400 Can't wait to see them in Haunted Attractions. 174 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,400 But let's turn the clock back a little bit. 175 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:21,400 You know, one thing that I have noticed over the course of the last few years, and I'm sure a lot of you have too, 176 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:27,400 a lot of Haunts are starting to kind of go retro. 177 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:33,400 A lot more classic type Halloween characters, a lot more Jack-o-lanterns witches, 178 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,400 classic vampires and monsters and things like that. 179 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:43,400 You know, there's still a lot of great brand spanking new ideas out there that have not been fully exploited or used to death. 180 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,400 But a lot of people are kind of into that nostalgic thing right now. 181 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:53,400 There's a lot of advertising on TV that goes back to the days of the 80s and the 90s. 182 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,400 And of course anything 80s and 90s is pretty big these days. 183 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,400 So why not Haunted Attractions? 184 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:06,400 If you remember going to Haunts in high school or college, if you're in the Gehost demographic, 185 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,400 you might remember some of those great Haunts back in those days, you know, 186 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,400 maybe not necessarily feeling your hand into a pot of, you know, 187 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:20,400 Jello and saying it's brains or spaghetti or grapes for eyeballs, maybe not that retro. 188 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:29,400 But there's a trio of Haunts going on right now that have gotten together and are creating retro themed Haunts around the country. 189 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:37,400 And if this works and it sounds really, really cool, they may be expanding this and looking for other Haunts to join them. 190 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:43,400 Don't know if that's going to happen, but we should certainly find out with our guests tonight. 191 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:55,400 They're all putting on retro themed Haunts at their various locations and we want to talk about why and what they're doing and how cool a concept is this. 192 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,400 So let's welcome our guests tonight. 193 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:09,400 First of all, from the Dark Knight Halloween World Scream Park, we have Aiden Finnegan who is up in his Haunt is up in Farmingville, New York. 194 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,400 Aiden, are you with us? 195 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,400 I am with you guys. 196 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,400 Thanks for having me on. 197 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,400 All right. 198 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:21,400 And you are not at the Haunt right now building and hammering away, which is a little odd being it's the middle of build season, 199 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,400 but we're glad you were able to take a little time to speak to us here. 200 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:33,400 Going down to Silver Point, Tennessee and Halloween Horror, we have Carol Lee Moore and Erica McElroy. 201 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,400 How are you guys doing tonight? 202 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,400 Doing good, man. 203 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,400 Doing good. 204 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,400 Halloween Hollow Haunted House. 205 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,400 That's us. 206 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,400 Sounds like a, it's got kind of a really neat little retroy kind of name too. 207 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,400 So gotta love that. 208 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,400 Oh yeah. 209 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:57,400 Getting way far out to the West Coast, the Haunted Harvest out of Chino, California, we have Brandon Splatter, not Splatter, but Splatter with us tonight. 210 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,400 Brandon, how are you, sir? 211 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,400 I'm good. 212 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,400 I just got the sawdust cleaned off my shoulders to do this interview. 213 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,400 And yeah, it's pretty warm down here. 214 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,400 Well, yeah, it's pretty warm where we are. 215 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:14,400 But, you know, since we're audio only, you could have met, you could have had the sawdust, but that's all right. 216 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:21,400 We also have our regular host up in Rhode Island, not too far from Farmingville, New York, I'm guessing. 217 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,400 We have Storm. 218 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,400 Yeah, if you take a boat, you'd probably be close. 219 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,400 But yeah, no, I'm greetings. 220 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,400 I'm ready to go. 221 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:39,400 I got my half a meal Boo bucket filled with wax lips and those skeleton candies that came in the coffins that no one ever actually assembled a full skeleton with. 222 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,400 That's true. 223 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:41,400 Very nice. 224 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,400 Down in Cincinnati, we have Meat Hook Jim. 225 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:52,400 I have designed an old gothic haunt because I was a hot owner for a hot minute a few years back. 226 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,400 But I'm not going to give that design to anybody because it's going to happen. 227 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,400 I promise you. 228 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:05,400 Out in Fayetteville, Arkansas, somebody who does a really retro haunt, you might say it's purely medieval. 229 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,400 We have John a.k.a. the old crone. 230 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:14,400 I am a product of the 70s and 80s JC haunted houses. 231 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,400 So I am all about the retro. 232 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,400 That is my vibe. 233 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,400 I'm excited tonight. 234 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,400 Nice. 235 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,400 My name is Drew Badger in Charlotte, North Carolina. 236 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:28,400 The heat and the humidity are here and I am feeling every bit of it. 237 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,400 By the way, I started working in haunted houses in 1977. 238 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,400 So let's see if we go that retro. 239 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,400 Gentlemen and ladies, welcome to the round table of terror. 240 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,400 I'm going to throw out the first question. 241 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:52,400 Why a retro haunt when we have all this cool new stuff going on that you see at Trans World and all the other shows. 242 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,400 Are we are we going in alphabetical order here? 243 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,400 APC, A&M, Trans and Carol? 244 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,400 For right now, yes. 245 00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,400 Okay. 246 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,400 All right. 247 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,400 So why retro? 248 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,400 Well, I mean, from a business and marketing perspective, you know, leaving personal feelings and passions 249 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,400 completely out of it. 250 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,400 Turn on your television. 251 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,400 Open up your social media feed. 252 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,400 You know, take a walk to your local strip mall or online e-commerce store that you buy all your close work. 253 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,400 Retro is big right now. 254 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:29,400 It's been that way since Stranger Things really, I would want to say is probably the, you know, the Watergate moment, the watershed moment for when the floodgates were opened and everyone started getting behind it. 255 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,400 And now it's virtually inescapable. 256 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:37,400 There's a lot of 70s, you know, nostalgia going on, a lot of 2000, 90s rather nostalgia going on. 257 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:42,400 And more than anything else, it seems that the emphasis is put on 80s nostalgia. 258 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:56,400 And, you know, if you're not just a haunt fan, but if you're a, you know, horror fanatic, like I'm sure most of us are pretty much, you know, the 80s is just usually a personal favorite time, you know, era of horror films. 259 00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:05,400 You know, like you said, you had the VHS store experience and, you know, sometimes the art on the front of the VHS would be better than the movie itself. 260 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:10,400 And, you know, that's influenced a lot of art artwork that's done by market-saved-to-star designs. 261 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:18,400 If you go back and look at our artwork for the past three seasons, it's all trying to be VHS artwork, you know, and it's all a big tribute to that. 262 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,400 So obviously there's a humongous demand for it. 263 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:34,400 We're seeing more and more haunts across the country, big and small, including some national level haunts that are, you know, these big name haunts aren't afraid to go after the vintage Halloween, you know, with the pumpkin pales and the classic cat drawing. 264 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:39,400 You know exactly what I'm talking about, as well as, you know, some of that 80s nostalgia, you know, 80s, slash it. 265 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,400 There you go. 266 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,400 Look at mid-summer stream. 267 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,400 They're all over it, you know, and rightfully so. 268 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:49,400 This is the trend that's currently gripping the industry, but I haven't seen it really talked about a whole lot. 269 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,400 Aside from a couple mentions and some, you know, seminars I've attended at the trade shows. 270 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:58,400 So I was like, this whole movement's happening, but no one's seeing that it's really a movement. 271 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,400 So let's make it one. 272 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:09,400 Let's draw attention to, you know, people like Carolyn Brand and America and Trevor and, you know, all these haunts out there that are really, you know, and not there. 273 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:25,400 And what I mean by a retro haunt isn't just black, let's put out some black past plastic walls and, you know, put out a bowl of grapes, but take the modern haunt mentality and production value and apply that to, you know, giving an old dog new tricks, you know, 274 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:38,400 parroting and paying tribute to the things that we all grew up with and remember fondly and replicating that on a kind of a modern way, but still with a heavy, heavy dose of retro feeling, you know. 275 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:48,400 And I think, you know, everyone who grew up like me when I was growing up in Long Island, going to haunts, you know, in the late 2000s, they had still like that 90s sheen to them. 276 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:55,400 They were still using a lot of 90s animatronics and props and a lot of 90s, you know, gothic set design and things like that. 277 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,400 So I fell in love with that aesthetic. 278 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:07,400 And, you know, over the last, you know, over the 2010s, the industry really did, you know, evolve and start trying a bunch of new things to kind of get out of that old school aesthetic. 279 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:13,400 But I think we've been far away from it now for so long that it's sexy again. 280 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:18,400 And, you know, I want to see more and more haunts doing it and more and more haunts are going retro. 281 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,400 It's just they're not talking to each other about it. 282 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,400 And that's the main thing. 283 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:29,400 You know, I want to, I want to give people, you know, the, the, if you're looking for a haunt, there are other options than just, you know, nothing but CGI screens. 284 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,400 So let's say that, let's say it that way. 285 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:37,400 Now you sent me a press release talking about these three haunts here. 286 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:43,400 Were you the one that came up with this concept and then you pitched it to Carol, Erica and Brandon and others? 287 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,400 Or how did this come about? 288 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:51,400 I had bought up to Carol a couple of times because Carol, I've been a fan of his work for for many years. 289 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,400 Same with Brandon. 290 00:44:52,400 --> 00:45:00,400 You know, we go back, but a couple of years ago, one of the trade shows, I think I started talking to Carol when he was telling me about the new haunt he was starting. 291 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,400 And, you know, I wanted to work together in some capacity. 292 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:08,400 Now, you know, the last couple of years of my life have been hectic, especially career wise. 293 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,400 So that didn't pan out. 294 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:16,400 But this year, especially after attending a couple of the seminars and retro, retro, retro, there's something here. 295 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,400 And I looked and Carol's got this amazing show. 296 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,400 So why not reach out to Carol and see if we can do something. 297 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,400 Hey, Brandon's just doing a retro theme this year too. 298 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,400 Oh, well, let's get right in the mix. 299 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:32,400 And I thought about it for a while, came up with a big plan, proposed it to two of them. 300 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:40,400 And luckily we have some crazy resources for other things we're doing with my company that we're able to also put towards this. 301 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:50,400 We just finished filming an entire reality show and news show that's going to spotlight the history of haunted houses as well as some of the haunted houses that are going retro across the United States. 302 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,400 So, you know, that I look forward to releasing that in the next couple of weeks. 303 00:45:54,400 --> 00:46:00,400 It's campy, it's fun and it's giving some love to that thing that we all care about. 304 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:06,400 Now, Brandon and Carol, when Aiden came up to you guys and said, Hey, I got an idea. 305 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,400 What was your initial reaction? 306 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:19,400 I mean, were you already into the, yes, I'm going to do a retro haunt as he just said, or did it just kind of become the catalyst for, yeah, I think it's finally time to go ahead and do this. 307 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,400 It hadn't really occurred to me. 308 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:29,400 I think Aiden reached out on Instagram because we did a post, we did a theme reveal and it seemed like an exciting thing to do. 309 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,400 We've never really done anything like this where it's like a cross promotion. 310 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,400 I think it's a lot of fun. 311 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:45,400 We've been aware of, I think all of your haunts for years and, you know, it seemed like something that would be pretty cool kind of getting on the nostalgia that's pretty popular right now. 312 00:46:45,400 --> 00:47:01,400 He pitched it to me and I was like, well, you know, who's involved, who's doing what, and what really made me and Erica kind of decide this is really cool is because he's on the East Coast. 313 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,400 We're in Tennessee, we represent the South, Brandon's on the West Coast. 314 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:12,400 And if you're going to let everybody know kind of, Hey, we're doing this thing, you're covering pretty much all parts of the United States. 315 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:20,400 And I really thought that was kind of cool because you're getting three different style retro haunts from three different regions of the United States. 316 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:28,400 And to me, that's really cool because I've been to haunts like West Coast style haunts are different than haunts you see into the sea. 317 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,400 And I've only been to a few East Coast haunts, but their styles are different. 318 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,400 And so you take different styles with the retro haunt approach. 319 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:43,400 That was pretty, that was pretty convincing for me and Erica. So we decided, Hey, let's give this a shot. 320 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:48,400 All you need to do is hit the upper Midwest and you basically got the country covered, it sounds like. 321 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:54,400 So if there's any haunts out there in the upper Midwest looking to go retro, contact these guys. 322 00:47:54,400 --> 00:48:00,400 Carol, you brought up an interesting point about how West Coast, the East Coast and the South all differing. 323 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:07,400 And yes, they do. You know, I have been to haunts all over the U.S. as well as our co hosts and there are different styles. 324 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:15,400 But does retro have its own unique style in the South and on the East Coast and you know, on the West Coast too. 325 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:27,400 I mean, are the ones out in California is it all about surfing and windsurfing and then VW bugs that eat you or something like that versus East Coast or the south of the Midwest. 326 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:33,400 Well, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm I'm from LA and now I live in Orange County. 327 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:44,400 So I've kind of gotten like a taste of both parts of California, you know, and Los Angeles, you know, growing up in the 90s, it is a different feel from Orange County, which is closer to the beach. 328 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,400 We have Huntington Beach within like 20 minutes in my house. 329 00:48:47,400 --> 00:49:01,400 So it's very much a different kind of a different vibe over here in Orange County compared to like Los Angeles where you're landlocked and there's, you know, lots of city streets and, you know, things like that. 330 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,400 It's funny because Erica grew up and is from Huntington Beach. 331 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:16,400 So when I met Erica and was talking to her, she was, you know, talking to me about her childhood memories of working at different haunts and, you know, you started with elementary school or middle school elementary school. 332 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:25,400 Elementary school. So I grew up with like the West Coast haunts and then I moved to Denver, I worked there for a long time and worked for a company that was sending all over the place. 333 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,400 I've worked in haunted houses all over the country. 334 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,400 So I definitely understand that there's different feels. 335 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:45,400 There's California, you see a lot of, I don't know if it's like this at your hunt, but a lot of like festival type haunts like scary and then there was, you know, there was like dark harbor and all that. 336 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,400 Or haunted hayride and all that. 337 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:59,400 But then you start seeing like everywhere else, it's kind of like a lot of indoor haunts when you start moving east and then you go, you start hitting more outdoor haunts. 338 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:05,400 And so they're so different everywhere and it's really neat to see everybody's take on different things. 339 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,400 So like including retro haunts. 340 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,400 So I think it's pretty exciting that we're all over the place. 341 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:17,400 And I don't know my first time seeing a, I'll tell you a really cool retro haunt that was before it changed hands. 342 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:23,400 I got the tour of the haunted schoolhouse and laboratory in Akron, Ohio, before it changed hands. 343 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:32,400 And it was probably the most retro haunt that I have seen that was still basically the way it was since the 70s. 344 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:39,400 And it's still had the chicken wire up so the actors were separated from the customers via chicken wire. 345 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,400 So you're walking through and you see them do the show behind the chicken wire. 346 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,400 And I was like, man, I haven't seen anything like this. 347 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:53,400 I heard my parents talk about the JC's haunt, you know, back when they used to have a Nashville and that was way before my time. 348 00:50:53,400 --> 00:51:06,400 But retro haunts in the South to me was black plastic strobe lights, blood paint, you know, and, and obviously we're not going that retro. 349 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:15,400 But the feel of it, like you could always tell that somebody put some time into a scene and like they were like, this scene I built, you know, 350 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,400 me and my brother built this scene right here. 351 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:30,400 And we built it and we was a Dahmer and I was leather face, you know, and it's just like you can tell some of these retro, like the feeling of retro haunts has passion. 352 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:36,400 It wasn't just always to make a quick buck and let's come up with something that's quick and easy. 353 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,400 But a lot of people that work those haunts, they still talk about it today. 354 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:45,400 I mean, 50, 60 year old men, I remember that time we did this and they remember it like it was yesterday. 355 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:58,400 And as a kid, nostalgic overload seeing the radio stations when they were a huge marketing powerhouse setting up outside, you'd see the KDF rock van outside with the strobe lights and the search lights. 356 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,400 And it just looked like a cool spectacle. 357 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:15,400 And if I told Erica, if we could bring that back and bring kind of what that used to be like for me as a kid, like Aiden said, with Stranger Things kind of being hot right now, bring it all back around and do it in a haunted house setting. 358 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,400 I mean, stupid good. 359 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:28,400 I think that's a good point. Like retro is different, has a different meaning really and a feeling for everybody. So I think it's kind of cool that we're all over the place. 360 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:34,400 I remember going to the haunted schoolhouse on the MHC bus tour maybe 10 years ago, maybe a little further. 361 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:40,400 I think that was before the new owners and and I do remember the chicken wire around that giant Tesla coil looking thing. 362 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:51,400 But I just thought that was so we didn't die as we got too close to it and they fired that sucker up. But that's a yeah, that's that's that's amazing. 363 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,400 That's an amazing haunt. I have good memories from that. 364 00:52:54,400 --> 00:53:07,400 The cool place about that haunt. The cool thing about it is it was like a legit laboratory where they were testing like they had this giant room where they would do velocity type things where you could drop down and like, you know, float in the air and they made it look like a 365 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:15,400 four level scene where if you look down, it looked like the floor had caved in four levels. 366 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,400 That is the scariest bridge I've ever been on, by the way. 367 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,400 That one. Yes. 368 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:36,400 And then the another part they had this Dracula's layer and it was all chicken wire off where you couldn't, you know, but he would come down the stairs and just really you could just tell that there had been some time spent in there and it just like you could just smell the age. 369 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:49,400 You know, and like you could smell the the Morris costumes from the 80s and it was just it was awesome. You know, I haven't been back, but it was really cool to see a haunt that well preserved almost like a time capsule. 370 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:50,400 Oh yeah. 371 00:53:50,400 --> 00:54:11,400 Okay, so I'm going to I'm going to say 50 or 60 year old old old men. You know, we're still young, Mr. You know, we got it. But I want to ask what I mean I love this but what is the benefit of you guys pairing together or partnering together to do this. 372 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:22,400 Is it just for marketing leverage or are you trying to really just start a movement? What's what's the benefit of you guys working together in this quote retro haunt field? 373 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:30,400 All right. Well, I mean, obviously at the end of the day, we got to make money to keep the gates open or else as one of pickle says I can't have fun next year. 374 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:48,400 So marketing is definitely at the number one priority list but really close behind is we're doing this because one, you know, you don't always get along with other points and you know I believe that sent to community is probably the the one thing that can help this industry continue to grow. 375 00:54:48,400 --> 00:55:02,400 And, you know, I find find myself privileged to be on such friendly terms with you know other talented creators like Carol and Erica and Trevor and Brandon all their respective crews because they just got crack teams working on this stuff some of the most talented people I've ever seen. 376 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:15,400 But you know, we're doing this because we want to do it and that's the similarity because you get like you said you have three different types of haunts or what it's a module or it's a pop up one because no one can afford to buy a location in Long Island. 377 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:29,400 Most haunts out here, they're modular they're pop ups. But you know so obviously you know that grants Carol and Brandon and everyone you know a little bit more you know access to to build bigger things and stuff because they don't have to take it down in two weeks. 378 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:43,400 But we're all doing this at the end of the day for the same reason that's because we love this not just loving doing haunted houses but the specific niche type that pays tribute to what got us started doing this, you know, 379 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:58,400 my my response would be why not you know you got other haunts doing stuff similar. We're all haunted houses we're all haunted attractions people are all going to come out of the woodwork in our different regions come Halloween season. 380 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,400 If we can tap into something get some coverage on what we're doing. 381 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:21,400 Get people talking about it. I used to travel hours still do to go to haunted houses and know if if I'm busy during the Halloween season of course but when I was a young man, you know I would travel up to four or six hours and convince my parents to let me let me go that far to go to a haunted 382 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:35,400 house just because I read about it in Fangoria magazine. So you know, you don't know when you're going to somebody's going to come across an article or a story online, or social media and go, you know what, that's dope. 383 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:47,400 I'm going. And that's how things start to take off so when they didn't approach me I said, let's do it, you know, let's rock and roll and what's it going to hurt it's only going to help. That's that's kind of what we thought. 384 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:53,400 Yeah, and I mean the cool thing about social media is that as divisive as it can be. 385 00:56:53,400 --> 00:57:08,400 You know, that's kind of how I know, Aiden that's how Trevor knows Aiden and this is kind of an extension of that that we, we met on social media and we kind of continue like a friendship over social media since we're, you know, we're across the country. 386 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,400 And this is kind of a nice way to extend that. 387 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:26,400 And what's ironic about all that is not just any social media but I think even before I was in the industry, like I was still in maybe even middle school at the time when I started, you know, getting hooked up with you guys a petition home and following what you were doing. 388 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:36,400 That was on YouTube that was on you guys, you know, you guys making late 2000s early 2010s haunt blocks. So before even Facebook hit its peak, you know, like we met on YouTube. 389 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:44,400 And now all these years later we're working kind of together in this universal project that concerns a time that existed long before YouTube. 390 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:53,400 You know, like we were talking about blockbuster was the original Netflix. I think that's better. I'd rather go place to someplace physical and pick up, you know, physical media. 391 00:57:53,400 --> 00:58:03,400 So it's just ironic that yeah, we met under such modern terms but and now we're using modern technology to replicate retro retro aesthetics and our haunts. 392 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:11,400 I do want to remind you all you are listening to the roundtable of terror here on the big scary show we're going to take a very short break to play this very important message. 393 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:25,400 We are talking retro haunts with our guests Brandon splatter Erica McElroy, Carol Lee, Moran, Aiden Finnegan, along with our regular go hosts, we're going to take a very short break and we will be right back. 394 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:32,400 Are you looking for a comprehensive ticking solution for your haunted attraction? 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It was 2008. And I got to say, I thought that was a very retro haunt back at the time, you know, from having people like Damien Reaper walk up to you as you're going through the cemetery, getting ready to go through the main doors and talking about none of you are really going to survive this. 401 00:59:55,400 --> 01:00:06,400 Maybe a couple of you will, but you know, his monologue was just so classic and and just I thought the Dent was like a purely perfectly themed haunt. 402 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:19,400 Everything was school related at the time from auto shop to the auditorium to everything and that's that's just something I remember from a lot of old school haunts that that single theme and and I don't know. 403 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:30,400 I'm assuming it has changed over the years, but were you a part I mean I know you were a part of it, you know, 10 years ago, I guess, but were you a part of it back that far and were you able to watch it evolve. 404 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,400 Actually, I did not come on board until 2010. 405 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:45,400 I know Damien very well. And, you know, the whole theme being behind it was, it was a 1950s schoolhouse. So yes, it was very, very retro. 406 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:49,400 Well, the theme might have been 1950s, but wasn't it like an 1850s building. 407 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,400 Holding was built like the late 1800s. 408 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,400 Oh, okay. Very cool. 409 01:00:54,400 --> 01:01:01,400 It's a gorgeous. I mean, for those who haven't seen it, it's a gorgeous building. It's got a bell tower and everything. 410 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:13,400 But, you know, Damien was Damien's an institution onto himself. He doesn't work. So he lives Halloween 24 7365. 411 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:25,400 And he's really good at what he does. I mean, he loves Halloween so much that he's just, you know, that's all that's his life. 412 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:33,400 He could almost be one of those late night horror host types of it with his characters. Those were so cool back then. And I think that's also a big part. 413 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:48,400 And I'm curious to know whether or not, you know, that will start coming back. Maybe Haunts will have a quote unquote horror host that could, you know, kind of be the spokesman and the voice of the Haunt. 414 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:55,400 You know, not only reading the rules, but being a Q-line actor or being the greeter or things like that. That would be kind of a neat idea. 415 01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,400 That would be neat. That one Haunt and Wall Island should do it. 416 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:05,400 Yes, maybe they should. Maybe I should hang my consultant flag out right now, Cha-ching. We'll talk after the show. 417 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:10,400 If we didn't just wrap filming, I'd give you that check to your... 418 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,400 You're going to come out with another one, right? 419 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:13,400 I'm sorry? 420 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:18,400 You're going to come out with another reality show, right? For season two? 421 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:30,400 Possibly. We'll see what happens after this season. And with the internal storyline of the horror host and that universe without getting into too much more. But you'll all understand when you watch a couple episodes. 422 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,400 We'll do lunch and we'll talk. 423 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:39,400 I will undercut Drew. 424 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,400 We're not getting into a bidding war today, sir. 425 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,400 Maybe you need a woman's touch. 426 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:48,400 Well, what if that horror host was a woman? 427 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:49,400 Why not? 428 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,400 Princess Trainwreck. 429 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,400 You... No. 430 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:59,400 That term woman is very loosely used with her. 431 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,400 I'd rather have kinks in there than Princess Trainwreck. 432 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:10,400 Well, anyway, we're not going to fight over that right now. And if you don't know what that is, do not look up Princess Trainwork on Facebook ever. 433 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,400 Just don't. 434 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:18,400 But anyway, questions from the host regarding our guests? 435 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:23,400 Well, I'm just double checking how many States Princess Trainwreck is illegal in now. 436 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,400 16. 437 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:26,400 So you know. 438 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:37,400 I didn't have a question so much as a comment. And my comment is, I am admiring all of you for what you're doing because I think this is what the industry needs right now. 439 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:43,400 Everybody's all about retro. Now, everybody's about the 80s, the 90s, the 70s. 440 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,400 This is the perfect time to do what you guys are doing. 441 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:53,400 But given it that modern flair to bring it up to the next level. 442 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:59,400 Thank you guys for pursuing this because I think it's going to take off. 443 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,400 We certainly do too. And that's part of why we're doing it. 444 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:03,400 Yeah. 445 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:12,400 I mean, what are the, what are the chances that several different minds who are doing great haunts across the entire continental US are all thinking the same thing. 446 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:16,400 I mean, there's some magic there. You can't tell me otherwise. 447 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:24,400 I agree. I agree very much so. And you guys in Tennessee, I'm going to have to take a trip down into this Halloween. 448 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:25,400 Come on, man. 449 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,400 I'm in Cincinnati. I'm not that far away. 450 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,400 So there you go. 451 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,400 Straight down 75 to 40 or 65 maybe. 452 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:46,400 So my question, especially involving retro, you know, there's been so many advances in the industry over the past 40 years and a lot of it could very easily be applied to retro. 453 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,400 You can actually do very retro digital effects, that type of things. 454 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,400 You know, Pepper's Ghost has never gone out of style. 455 01:04:53,400 --> 01:05:10,400 But how do you guys address makeup and being retro? Because there's a very different feel to a haunt in the 80s and 70s as to what you'd expect to see a haunted makeup performance at a haunt today. 456 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:19,400 Well, for our show, we are the only haunt in our area and probably the only haunt out of few that is a all mask haunt. 457 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:23,400 We do this for numerous reasons, but especially with the retro thing. 458 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:32,400 We all, a lot of people tend to associate retro haunts with the quote unquote raccoon eyes makeup, you know, the white out face, the black around the eyes. 459 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:33,400 Maybe some things. 460 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,400 Yes, maybe some fades if you're lucky. 461 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:46,400 But you know, here's the thing is with me, I have a high tolerance for quality and something has to look both retro and good to go in our show. 462 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:52,400 And unfortunately, there's still some haunts that are doing that because of their circumstances. 463 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,400 And I'm not hating anyone for it or whatever. 464 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,400 You know, everyone does what they can. 465 01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:04,400 But you know, they're not doing it for the self aware joke of a retro haunt. 466 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:13,400 You know, when when you're doing stuff like this, there's obviously got to be some kind of level of self awareness and, you know, poking fun at yourself and everyone else who's doing this. 467 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:22,400 So that was crucial in our decision to go into an all mask, all mask direction, but it also allows us to write into the storyline. 468 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:28,400 You know, in previous years, it's been the the scare actors actually turn into monsters. 469 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:32,400 So when you go through the haunt, most of them are wearing like full on silicone masks. 470 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:36,400 But there's a but they're holding, you know, fun world masks. 471 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:43,400 And, you know, there's cheap 90s Halloween masks scared all around that these monsters threw off when they actually transformed into monsters. 472 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,400 So there's ways to ways to make that work. 473 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:50,400 But yeah, I'd be interested in seeing how other retro haunts handle their makeup. 474 01:06:50,400 --> 01:07:03,400 Oh, fantastic. I'd love to see, you know, a zombie come around the corner wearing that plastic bow Duke thing that came with like the the plastic jumpsuit cape and the the the mask that hanged on by one elastic. 475 01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:04,400 Oh, boy. 476 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,400 Ben Coopers. Yeah, we have a couple of those, but they're not getting used to the haunt. 477 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:16,400 They're actually getting used in our brand new vintage Halloween and history of haunted houses museum at Dark Knight, because we have so much stuff blow molds vintage haunt props cat. 478 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,400 Oh, I have a collection of mortise catalogs, a days back to at least the mid 80s. 479 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,400 So this is all stuff that I don't want possibly getting damaged. 480 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,400 So we're going to display it properly. 481 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,400 Good choice, both by the customers and the actors. 482 01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:29,400 That's a risk. 483 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:30,400 Brandon, what about you? 484 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,400 How do you approach to make up for retro feel? 485 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,400 Well, we staff about 40 actors. 486 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,400 So we don't have a lot of time every night to do makeup. 487 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,400 We encourage them if they want to or if it's what their character is. 488 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:49,400 But out of 40 people, we probably get like maybe three or four people actually doing dedicated makeup. 489 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:50,400 And that's kind of on them. 490 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,400 But we provide masks. 491 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:57,400 We last year, one of our haunted houses was called maniacs. 492 01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,400 And it was based on real life serial killers. 493 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:05,400 And we actually had like three dead ringers for the serial killers that they were playing. 494 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,400 We had like a Dahmer that looked exactly like him. 495 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,400 We had a Ramirez that looked exactly like him. 496 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:16,400 So they didn't really have to do a lot of makeup, but they did have to show up every night because like who else is going to play them. 497 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:20,400 But we rely heavily on masks. 498 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:29,400 And I think that a lot of the younger kids, because we'll get 17, 18 year olds trying out, they kind of prefer the masks. 499 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:34,400 And out in the cornfield too, if they're sweating, a lot of the makeup ends up running. 500 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:40,400 So it's, we kind of just lean into the mask like most of the time. 501 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,400 Definitely good feeling. 502 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:51,400 You know, even retro masks, there's some incredible movie quality ones that were used in the past, which when working a haunt nowadays, but this type of feel definitely would. 503 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:56,400 What about Halloween? How, how do you guys approach the makeup and retro issue? 504 01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:03,400 So we are masked heavy as well, for the most part, but we do have makeup. 505 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:10,400 We have makeup artists, and we use, there's specific characters that we use for makeup. 506 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:15,400 So like our main character for like our video store, his name is Rewind. 507 01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,400 He is makeup with prosthetics most of the time. 508 01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:26,400 So they have, we have somebody specifically that puts on his prosthetics because he's technically a vampire. 509 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:39,400 There's a whole story behind him, but he's, so he's mask and, or no, he's makeup and prosthetics, but he's also in the video store, which is also the queue line to our haunt. 510 01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:48,400 And so he's in the video store with our patrons and like he's in their faces and talking to them about all these movies and stuff like that. 511 01:09:48,400 --> 01:10:03,400 So we have specific characters that are mask and specific characters that are makeup, but then we have a couple of characters inside the video store attraction that are kind of more old school. 512 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:10,400 So like some of them are like victims and so like we have, we kind of go like a little bit more retro with their makeup. 513 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:22,400 So like old school, like, you know, running black and white, just, just to make it look a little fun and like, like they do belong in that era that they're, that they're in the scene that they're at. 514 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:31,400 So it all depends on the scene and if they're forward facing or back in the back in the one of the scenes. 515 01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:39,400 That's great. And that saves on time and makeup with the actors to just line them up, get the super soaker with the fake blood. Good. You're good to go. Get out there. 516 01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:40,400 Oh yeah. 517 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:51,400 I also love the video store thing and the concept of, you know, the vampire running it. I'm pretty sure half of the independent video stores in the 80s were actually run by vampires, 518 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,400 especially on a Friday night if you ever walked into one. 519 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:55,400 Oh yeah. 520 01:10:55,400 --> 01:11:03,400 Who's to say what's really happening behind those red curtains, you know, that special section of the story that you couldn't get into before you were a certain age. 521 01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:08,400 I'll tell you what, that red curtain was what I was about. I'll tell you that much. 522 01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:13,400 That was a right of passage right there. Being able to go past the red curtain. 523 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:27,400 Red curtain didn't matter. I wanted to see what was behind the curtain. Tapping on what Erica said, you know, the video store, which we call a video slash back is one of three hots that we have. 524 01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:39,400 So we have dark Raven, which your basic haunted mansion feel. So if you go into the haunted mansion, which we call dark Raven, it's got a bunch of ghost like, you know, actors in there. 525 01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:47,400 So you can kind of think of the old school, you know, the real dry, the, yeah, a lot of them are makeup in there, especially the one out front. 526 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:57,400 He's, he's kind of, he's like a harbinger of sorts. He kind of tells you the story, you know, and on the front porch and wearing like a top hat. 527 01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:07,400 Yeah, it's very bullish, you know, very, if you think of like, you know, Dr. Spookin style, you know, like we talked about horror host, you know, he's very that. 528 01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:08,400 Yeah. 529 01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:16,400 And then of course, that's dark Raven. Of course, we talked about video slash back, but then we have big top meets, which fun, it's clowns and chainsaws. 530 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,400 And I know that's can't get any more retro than that. 531 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:26,400 But I tell you, I'm a, I'm a personal, I'm not a fan of the chainsaw and I'm not a fan of clowns. 532 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:36,400 But let me tell you, the public loves it. And when they're the ones buying tickets, I will say sure thing, what will make a house just for you guys. 533 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:37,400 And they love it. 534 01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:45,400 And the makeup in there is your old school, you know, oboe clown and old school clown like masks to and we have a few masks in there as well. 535 01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:54,400 A few silicones, but in our makeup is across the board, you know, we have silicones, we have latex, we have, you know, the vintage stuff. 536 01:12:54,400 --> 01:13:01,400 Because a lot of these companies are making retro style masks, the plastic, you know, uncanny, you know, like uncanny. 537 01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,400 I can't think of the name right now. 538 01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:09,400 Aiden, you know what I'm talking about the vintage, yeah, the old plastic Halloween mask. 539 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,400 Are we talking about like old vacuum form fun? 540 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:17,400 Yeah, yeah, those things. There's a there's a guy, you know, he had a mask company called on Kenya Valley. 541 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,400 And that's what I was thinking. They used to do a lot of those style masks. 542 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:27,400 Anyway, go back to the original thing. Our makeup is mask heavy, but we also theme it to our three themes. 543 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:32,400 So it's kind of unique and cool. And we don't take ourselves too seriously either. 544 01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:40,400 I mean, when you're in a scene of the video store called slaughter salvage and the tagline is a mechanic is insane, you know, like people call it the Dill Earnhardt house. 545 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:46,400 And he looks comes out looking like a dead Dill Earnhardt. You know, I mean, it is what it is, you know, we don't take ourselves too seriously. 546 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:54,400 We have fun. And in how if you dress up for Halloween and it's retro, there's no telling what you were going to see on Halloween night walking down the street. 547 01:13:54,400 --> 01:14:00,400 So Halloween Hollow is basically a Halloween town. That's how we kind of present ourselves. It's a big Halloween event. 548 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:06,400 Retro feel. We there are limits. What we'll do if it doesn't fit, we understand. 549 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:12,400 But it's pretty hard not to fit in what we got because it's everything Halloween and we can make it fit somehow. 550 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:18,400 Please, please tell me that your ghostly manner has somebody with a sheet with eye holes cut out of it. 551 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,400 Oh, please tell me you're going to have at least one of those. 552 01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:23,400 I'm going to have to check it out and find out for yourself. 553 01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,400 At least one. 554 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:30,400 We do actually have a photo because we have the Ghostbusters that come out and hang out with us every night. 555 01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:36,400 And we have a photo of one of our actors in a sheet like that with the Ghostbusters and it's really fun. 556 01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:37,400 It's pretty fun. 557 01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:38,400 Fantastic. 558 01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:39,400 That's hilarious. 559 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,400 I'm not going to ask. 560 01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:56,400 Janna, I mean, you do a medieval themed haunt. Is there a way you can go retro with that? I mean, how you're going back like you're going 400 years ago, 500 years ago. 561 01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,400 It is. Yeah, it's kind of retro already. 562 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:06,400 But my type of retro that I've done with my haunt is the fact out of necessity. 563 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:18,400 I too am a pop up or modular haunt. So we build everything off site and we load it in and then we take it back out, you know, just like somebody you do. 564 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:23,400 But also, you know, basically I'm poor. 565 01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:30,400 So I don't have the room or the money for these, you know, $10,000 props. 566 01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:37,400 So we're retro in that our scares are more thriller mental, food scares or job scares. 567 01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:42,400 You know, we're kind of low tech in that aspect, but it works. 568 01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:46,400 I'll tell you something about, you know, being low tech. 569 01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,400 I used to own a haunted house that was called Death Yard. 570 01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:58,400 And I had it for two years and we had bought out an existing haunt north of Nashville, about 15 minutes from Nashville Nightmare. 571 01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:04,400 This haunted house had one air prop and it was just the air blast. That's all we had. 572 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:10,400 And every year we were open. We tied with Nashville Nightmare in the Nashville scene as best haunted house. 573 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:16,400 And I found out then that you don't have to be high tech to scare people. 574 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:27,400 And that's kind of where and that's kind of where I started to in, you know, the more creative you are with your show, you don't have to have a lot of high tech stuff. 575 01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,400 Now it's nice to be high tech. You know, I've been in some very high tech haunts. 576 01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:34,400 I've worked for some very high tech haunts, but I've also worked for some very low tech haunts. 577 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:42,400 And let me tell you something, if people are laughing, screaming, having a good time, they don't give a dad gum what kind of tech you're using. 578 01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,400 As long as they come out having fun and want to come back again. 579 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:49,400 And that's what I found out to be the most important part of what we do. 580 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:56,400 And you say you haven't made evil show. That'd be, I'd love to see that, you know, that'd be kind of cool to check that out. 581 01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:04,400 Well, thanks. Well, we are we are definitely kindred spirit in that because I couldn't compete with the great big haunts and the big expensive props and things. 582 01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,400 So I had to find a way to offer something completely different. 583 01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:08,400 Yeah. 584 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:12,400 And so the medieval and it's very story driven and everything. 585 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,400 But yeah, I agree with you. I mean, preach it. 586 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:19,400 If they're if they're laughing and they're having fun and they're having a good time and they're coming back every year. 587 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:20,400 That's what matters. 588 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,400 Yeah, absolutely. 589 01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:32,400 Yeah, I mean, it seems like, you know, throughout talking to people in the industry, it seems that people forget, you know, after they get, you know, especially what's look at our employees. 590 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:43,400 I was just talking with someone about this earlier is one of my favorite parts of, you know, owning Dark Knight and working with our team is most of our team, they're not haunt industry people. 591 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,400 They're genuine horror lovers. 592 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:56,400 But when someone goes into the industry, I've seen it happen time and time and time again, where they get so, you know, obsessed with trans world and the newest technology and that's that's great. 593 01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:07,400 You know, I remember that time in my life, but, you know, there becomes this kind of thing that you're trying to trying to, you know, push your haunts towards. 594 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:15,400 And if not that, and if you're not trying to kind of replicate, you know, what you have been convinced by industry politics is the right way to do a haunt. 595 01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:22,400 You're trying to get in with the in crowd of the industry, you know, it's always one of the two paths, sometimes both. 596 01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:36,400 But, you know, we're taking it back to the point of like, you know, people like different styles of haunt, you know, I, you could talk to five different people and, you know, one will say, hey, I like that story driven haunt where it really felt 597 01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:48,400 intimate and really felt like I was in the experience and it relied, you know, the fate of the icon character, relied on the decisions my group made, you know, which is the right book to move on the bookcase to open the next door. 598 01:18:48,400 --> 01:19:00,400 And there's other people who, you know, love haunts like Field of Screams and PA, you know, lots of fire, lots of animatronics, lots of big production value and it's gorgeous stuff like Netherworld, you know, I love, I love haunts like that. 599 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:09,400 But people like different things and, you know, sometimes people aren't going to like that big haunt or people aren't going to like that small low tech haunt. 600 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:21,400 But it seems that more and more haunts are now trying to almost appear identical. You're going to walk through haunts now and, you know, all five of your cities operated haunts seem to all have the same props, the same amount of animatronics, 601 01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:33,400 the same silicone masks. And, you know, I feel like the retro haunt thing is going to definitely help with that because it's going to remind people that there are other options. There are a variety of styles of haunt that you have to choose from. 602 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:48,400 So, you know, maybe the general populace that attends haunts of the attractions, which I believe is still at about 20% of the population each season, will now be able to kind of expand their palette of, you know, hey, what haunts am I going to go to? 603 01:19:48,400 --> 01:20:00,400 Oh, we're going to go to that one that we always go to. It's the biggest haunt on Busby, you know, the whole freaking night. So hopefully, you know, this encourages people to check out other haunted houses than the one that they go to. 604 01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:08,400 I'll tell you one time. 2007. Trans World Chicago. First Trans World ever attended. 605 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:20,400 Walking to the dark zone or whatever they used to call that. I think they still call it the dark zone. But anyway, scare factories in there. The dragon with the parachute material wings is flapping high above us. 606 01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:28,400 We're looking at the property, the haunt owner, and he was like, I'm buying this. I was like, you're buying that? I was like, dude, that's over $10,000, you know? 607 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:38,400 He's like, I'm buying it. So we kept it top secret from everybody. We didn't want anybody knowing what we were doing and wanted to make this huge big unveiling. We had it in this giant cave that we built. 608 01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:48,400 And at the end of the year, we did a tally of what people like the most. And everybody said they like the mattress in the ground effect or the quicksand effect. 609 01:20:48,400 --> 01:21:01,400 And I sat there and said, you know, we did, you just spent over $10,000 on that dragon. And although it was cool, it was second place. First place was a mattress in the ground. And I've never forgot that. 610 01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:17,400 And it's just, it's funny how things, how people work. You know, you talk about field of screams, Aiden, you know, I went to field of screams, Bates Motel and Reapers Revenge on a, I think it was a legendary haunt tour a few years back. 611 01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:30,400 And I tell you, my favorite out of three was Reapers Revenge because it felt a little old school and kind of how I came up, you know, in the Southern Haunted outdoor haunt, you know, it was like, you just kind of use what you got. 612 01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:44,400 But field of screams to me was the best outdoor attraction I've ever been to clean. It was organized. It looked slick. It ran smooth. Bates was retro in my opinion. It seemed very nostalgic. 613 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:57,400 It seemed like Bates was the same that when I would see Bates in the Fangoria magazines and things like that from when I was a teenager. And I think that's why they all three do very well because they're all different. 614 01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:08,400 Also, while you mentioned it, and we, you know, we're right here, big shout out to Reapers Revenge. Oh my God, Kelly, Todd, all of them, Paul, the whole nine, Ryan, incredible haunt. 615 01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:24,400 And like you said, you know, it has aspects of old school and aspects of new school, but the old school aspects are done to such a degree, you know, overbuilt, overblown that it's just, it's hard to describe their experience besides, you know, what I usually tell people about Reapers. 616 01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:33,400 And it's one of my favorite haunts, if not my favorite haunt because it's the most well-rounded attraction or multi-attraction attraction that I've ever been to in my life. 617 01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:39,400 Big shout out to Reapers. I mean, if you're in the area or even if you're not in the area, it's worth the trip. 618 01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:49,400 I'll tell you, the amount of haunt porn that I saw at those places, Reapers had a lot of old carnival looking haunt porn, I think, if I'm not mistaken, it looked legit. 619 01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,400 They added more. 620 01:22:51,400 --> 01:23:04,400 Okay, well, that's crazy to find that kind of stuff. And then the field of screams had all kinds of farm equipment, haunt porn everywhere, just rust and just sexiness all over the place. And I'm a huge fan of that. 621 01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:15,400 Very cool. Carol, I hope the third place for favorite things was a pallet buried in the ground with a red light under it and those fake hands. 622 01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:22,400 Those are scary. Those are scary. 623 01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:28,400 I got a quick question and I know we need to start winding this down because I think a couple of you have scheduled issues. 624 01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:40,400 With it all being retro and a lot of people, we were talking before we started, people remembering all the 80s and 90s of people, at least in my age demographic, 625 01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:57,400 are your demographics older, people who are going through the nostalgia, are they more in their 30s or 40s or more versus the people who are what we typically try to market to, the teenagers and the early college age. 626 01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:08,400 We try to get the 14 to 25s in there, but are you seeing more people in the 30s saying, oh my God, I remember this back from the 90s or from the 80s? 627 01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:18,400 Well, for our hunt, we would say that the lion's share of our clientele are probably middle of the road millennials like myself. 628 01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:27,400 I'm 33. So I grew up with Blockbuster. I had three video stores within walking distance of my house growing up in LA. 629 01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:43,400 And that, I think that's anywhere from like age like 30 to like 44 now. I think that's, which is crazy to say, but that's the biggest share of who comes to our hunt, who sees our ads, who's visiting the pumpkin patch. 630 01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:51,400 And then followed by, I think, Zoomers are like the next one, and then followed by Gen X. 631 01:24:51,400 --> 01:25:04,400 But, you know, I think this has been the biggest response we've ever gotten was doing like the retro video store, because a lot of the people that are coming, they grew up with like 90s, not scary farm. 632 01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:12,400 And they just did a poll recently to do like one of their throwback hunts, like something that they did in the 90s and the early 2000s. 633 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:23,400 And I'm kind of cashing in on that too. And yeah, I mean, millennials are the generation that celebrates themselves. So they like it. 634 01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:32,400 And yeah, I would say that, you know, we're kind of playing to that crowd more than anything else because it's who comes, you know, to our hunt. 635 01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:42,400 The key engineer are the whole concept of Halloween hollow was Halloween fun for everyone. So we have a not scary pumpkin patch. 636 01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:58,400 So when little ones can come, they can hang out with the Tennessee Ghostbusters who are protecting the, the, the corn maze and the pumpkin patch areas and making sure that no ghost or goblins or ghouls or whatever, you know, can scare them. 637 01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:10,400 And then we have, you know, the killer clown, cannibal clown, chainsaw hunt. That's bloody and gory. And then we have the haunted mansion dark Raven. That's more spooky haunted mansion Disney esque. 638 01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:23,400 And then the video store, which is for your basically your hardcore horror enthusiasts. So we wanted to hit all spectrums. And that way we can have any age group come to Halloween hollow and have a blast. 639 01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:38,400 And that's what we've seen it like we, we have a ton of people, we have a lot of families that come, and they'll bring like all their kids and they'll. So we've set it up to where they can either do like all the haunts at once or they can buy like individual tickets, you know. 640 01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:46,400 So a lot of times we see repeats so they'll come in and they'll do like, they're not sure if their kids are going to like it as much as they do so they'll take them in and do one hunt. 641 01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:57,400 And then they'll come back the next weekend and be like, they loved it. They can't stop talking about it. Now we brought it like more people. We had somebody show up with an entire hay ride that they drove in themselves full of people because they wanted people to see it. 642 01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:07,400 And they so like we have everybody from we saw like tiny kids all the way up to like, you know, a super pretty elderly people like out there. 643 01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:17,400 And like, was that one grandma I saw your pumpkin on the nosepiper kids with me. I was like, great. Yeah. Thanks granny. Come on back. 644 01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:29,400 So like we have a very wide variety in our audience. But I probably say that like millennials are probably our biggest return. 645 01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:49,400 I have to almost mirror that, you know, last year for Dark Knight, which is our second season, we looked at the data after we closed and upon reviewing it, it was almost a clear 50% divide between, you know, teenagers and people in their 20s, and you know, people who are older adults and beyond 646 01:27:49,400 --> 01:28:05,400 quote unquote, you know, been both for different reasons, you know, the teenagers and the zoomers, you know, are now very aware of stranger things and all this retro media that's coming out the peace tribute to the media of the 80s and 90s and horror and things like that 647 01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:17,400 retro horror. And the adults you'd have coming through and saying, Oh man, I remember this prop from rich Hamstown's The Living Dead, which was probably the best haunted house on the island from the late 90s through the early 2000s. 648 01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:30,400 And then what ended up happening was towards the end of the season, those adults came back, and they were bringing their kids to show them, Hey, this was what haunted houses were like when you know, we were your age or whatever it is. 649 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:42,400 And those kids went through and said it was best haunted house they've been to that year, you know, as opposed to you know, everywhere, everywhere else on the island. And that's a pretty high compliment considering that we have some great haunted houses out on all night. 650 01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:53,400 But, you know, again, a big we held back with the marketing the last two years, we arrived almost entirely on word of mouth, which was kind of out of character for me given on the marketing guy. 651 01:28:53,400 --> 01:29:06,400 And we ended up still making the Buzzfeed list of the top 20 scariest haunted houses in the US. So, you know, we're excited to see, you know, now that we're going to be properly marketing it this year and we know we have a good product, how things expand. 652 01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:18,400 And, you know, part of this whole collaboration is using our new resources that we're putting into marketing and using that to try to help out, you know, bring some attention to Carol and Brandon's places too. 653 01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:31,400 Because honestly, you know, we got to look out for the other people who are doing like minded ideas, especially when they're good ones like this and if all turns out well, the industry is going to look very different in the next couple of years. 654 01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:40,400 Excellent. I know we need to start winding this down. So if the host have final questions now would be the time to ask anyone. 655 01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:45,400 I covered everything we did with retro pretty well but yeah badger if you got a good quick one. 656 01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,400 I got a quick final question. 657 01:29:48,400 --> 01:30:09,400 If this turns out that the three of you have fantastic years and everybody is just, you know, raving about this. Are you looking to create like a larger group like if I had a haunt in Ohio or Pennsylvania or Idaho and I wanted to join the three of you guys. 658 01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:13,400 Are you going to be soliciting for that after the season. 659 01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:36,400 We have big plans for this and you know, I highly you know, I try to put a lot of emphasis on, you know, partnership in the proper regard. So if that's something that's something I want to do, but if that's something that my other two you know haunt partners here, Carol and Brandon would like to do as well which I think we've talked about before and you know it's 660 01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:44,400 definitely not out of the wrong possibility I'd say yes definitely we're trying to build the community here and spread the love around. 661 01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:48,400 Excellent. Any final questions. 662 01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:56,400 No, I'm just looking forward to, you know, one day seeing the retro Council 13. 663 01:30:56,400 --> 01:31:06,400 That's old school. Well it has been a fascinating conversation we really appreciate you guys coming on and talking about it. This is the part of the show we like to call the plugs. 664 01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:17,400 So if you have websites and social medias where people can follow you catch up on your progress. Obviously we want to know your opening date if you have that already set. 665 01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:28,400 And let's start with Brandon tell us about haunted harvest where can people get more information. Do you have ticket sales pre sales going on or when they're going to go on sale opening nights. 666 01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,400 Social media sites, etc. 667 01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:49,400 We operate out of Frosty's force and pumpkin patch so they don't do online tickets their old school. So everything's on site, but that's in Chino you can follow us on the haunted harvest on Instagram, the haunted harvest on Facebook haunted harvest calm for any info. 668 01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:53,400 And yeah, do you have an opening night yet. 669 01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:56,400 They're telling us September 29. 670 01:31:56,400 --> 01:32:07,400 Okay, so check out haunted harvest.com or look at haunted harvest on the social medias. Carol and Erica tell us where people get information on Halloween hollow. 671 01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:22,400 So you can visit our website at Halloween hollow hunt.com. Currently we are in the process of redoing our website but our website does have the schedule on there and hiring information contact information on there right now currently 672 01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:28,400 We will be doing pre sale tickets starting August 1. 673 01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:38,400 You can catch us on social media on Facebook, Instagram and tick tock. All of those are Halloween hollow. 674 01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:55,400 It's just kind of a retro, like haunt. It's the haunt line we call it the Halloween hollow haunt line. Yeah, that's fantastic. 675 01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:58,400 It's not 99 cents a minute I hope. 676 01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:08,400 We try to get a nine. 677 01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:11,400 976 haunted house. 678 01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:12,400 There you go. 679 01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:13,400 That would have been great. 680 01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:15,400 That would have been. 681 01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:29,400 Aiden take us home with this sir. How can people get more information about the very long name of dark night Halloween world screen park and all right dark night Halloween world screen park it's a long name but that's kind of the joke. 682 01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:33,400 Like I said we're self aware on all socials we're at dark night. 683 01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:45,400 So yeah, we're at dark night. 684 01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:53,400 dark night not spelt like Batman dark n i g h t because that's when haunted houses take place on dark nights of course. 685 01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:55,400 So yeah we also have dark night. 686 01:33:55,400 --> 01:34:11,400 So we open up on Friday October 13th because what's more 90s than opening up a full on 14 acre retro screen park in the middle of October when half the seasons passed you by. 687 01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:34,400 We are located the Catholic Health Amphitheater at Bald Hill in Farmingville New York aka the Bald Hill Amphitheater and we all look forward to seeing everyone we're doing a bunch of awesome cool stuff this year keep an eye on our socials because we have some surprises planned and some stuff that's going to make you probably laugh if you get the joke and you're as involved in the industry and fandom as we are so thank you again to drew and all the 688 01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:49,400 gah hosts here on the big scary show not the first time I've been on here hopefully not the last time we'll be on here and it's always a great time so thank you to you guys for having myself on as well as our wonderful haunt partners here and give it a spotlight to what we're doing. 689 01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:53,400 Yes, but you're opening Friday the 13th so there you go. 690 01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:59,400 But anyway, we could not do this again without our aforementioned ghouse including storm. 691 01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:11,400 And then fabulous conversation, you know, love the whole retro feel and the fact that's coming back, but I am going to blame all of you for the fact that I can no longer get blow mold decorations without spending a small fortune. 692 01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:14,400 That's because me and my partners bought all of them for the museum. 693 01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:17,400 I'm very sorry. 694 01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:19,400 Also want to thank me hook Jim. 695 01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:30,400 I've got to say the whole concept just enamors me I can't wait to see what you guys have done. And hopefully at least I can get down to Tennessee to see what you guys have done. 696 01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:31,400 Please do. 697 01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:36,400 And of course we would be remiss if we did not mention, John of the old crone. 698 01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:47,400 I'm just going to say that if you ever want to know why gen X is so tough is because we grew up on the fears you guys are creating. 699 01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:57,400 My name is Drew Badger and one of these days I would love to see an entire haunt with nothing but actors in Don post masks. 700 01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:00,400 That would be Uber retro. 701 01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:01,400 This is the round. 702 01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:04,400 I think we've been on a tour with one or two of those. 703 01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:18,400 We may have but this is the round table of terror here on the big scary show. 704 01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:41,400 Yeah. 705 01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:54,400 Yeah. 706 01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:58,400 Yeah. 707 01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:05,400 Yeah. 708 01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:09,400 Yeah. 709 01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:14,400 Yeah. 710 01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:18,400 Yeah. 711 01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:22,400 Yeah. 712 01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:32,400 Yeah. 713 01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:37,400 Yeah. 714 01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:42,400 Yeah. 715 01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:44,400 Yeah. 716 01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:46,400 Yeah. 717 01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:48,400 Yeah. 718 01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:54,400 Yeah. 719 01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:58,400 Yeah. 720 01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:00,400 Yeah. 721 01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:04,400 Yeah. 722 01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:07,400 Yeah. 723 01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:09,400 Yeah. 724 01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:24,680 Greetings listeners, Meat Hook Jim here. 725 01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:30,680 As we continue our journey down torture and execution, we're still at the gallows and 726 01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:33,320 hanging the drop. 727 01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:39,840 When a trapdoor was first added to the gallows, the drop did not aid execution as intended. 728 01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:44,320 It took the efforts of a diligent hangman to reflect the process. 729 01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:51,240 On May 5th, 1760, a mighty throng gathered at Tyburn as a new era beckoned. 730 01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:57,200 The victim was Earl Ferrars, the first peer of the realm to be hanged in London and a 731 01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:59,960 new method was on trial. 732 01:38:59,960 --> 01:39:05,400 Ferrars would not be hanged from the horse and cart that conveyed him from his cell at 733 01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:09,200 the Tower of London as felons in the past had been. 734 01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:15,680 His death would occur when the floor beneath him gave way, leaving him suspended and strangled. 735 01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:19,320 It was known as the drop. 736 01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:25,800 The monumentous event was first spoiled when Earl Ferrars inadvertently broke protocol. 737 01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:31,520 He presented the hangman's assistant with five guineas, leaving the empty-handed hangman 738 01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:34,200 fuming. 739 01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:40,280 Ferrars was forced to wait for his moment of doom while the two officials argued. 740 01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:46,680 Finally, executioner Thomas Turlis was ready to release the mechanism that held the floor 741 01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:48,240 in place. 742 01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:54,040 Misjudgment by the makers of the scaffold left Ferrars writhing on the rope with his toes 743 01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:57,120 touching the ground. 744 01:39:57,120 --> 01:40:03,200 Author Horace Walpole said, as the machine was new, they were not ready at it. 745 01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:09,560 His toes still touched the stage and he suffered a little bit, having had time by their bungling 746 01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:11,320 to raise his cap. 747 01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:17,120 But the executioner pulled it down again and pulled his leg so that he was soon out of 748 01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:20,680 pain and quite dead in four minutes. 749 01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:25,440 Turlis returned to the tried and tested method of horse and cart. 750 01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:29,240 However, the drop was the shape of things to come. 751 01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:35,600 It was modified and made an appearance outside Newgate Prison in 1783. 752 01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:41,080 The victims were let out from the prison basement, directly up the steps and onto the platform, 753 01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:42,720 some six feet high. 754 01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:48,440 Well, my toes still be touching, I'm six four. 755 01:40:48,440 --> 01:40:55,280 Hangman still used short ropes, which meant that, despite the drop, victims suffered slow 756 01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:56,960 strangulation. 757 01:40:56,960 --> 01:41:03,520 It wasn't until Lincolnshire met man William Marwood took the job of hangman that science 758 01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:05,640 was applied. 759 01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:10,720 In Ireland, there had already been some advances in the form of the long drop. 760 01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:15,640 The correct length of rope could be calculated if the prisoner's weight, height, and neck 761 01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:18,600 musculature were assessed. 762 01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:23,640 With a long drop, the neck was broken or dislocated at the end of the fall. 763 01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:28,120 Death or at least cessation of pain was instant. 764 01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:35,720 Marwood drew up a chart to work from, which gave the length of rope necessary for anyone 765 01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:40,120 weighing between 112 and 224 pounds. 766 01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:47,120 He used a good quality rope, faring a soft Italian type made of hemp and silk, as it 767 01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:52,680 now had to bear not just the weight of the body, but the force with which it fell. 768 01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:59,160 Marwood exchanged a traditional slipknot for a metal ring to increase efficiency. 769 01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:04,440 He urged the replacement of scaffold ladders with ramps to assist the weak-need prisoners 770 01:42:04,440 --> 01:42:07,560 on their final walk. 771 01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:11,960 Where possible, he encouraged the digging of a pit beneath the scaffold to allow the 772 01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:19,240 platform to match the height of the cell floor, yet still have the efficient long drop beneath 773 01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:20,740 it. 774 01:42:20,740 --> 01:42:26,600 Marwood's proud bows were that others hang criminals while he executed them. 775 01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:29,480 He was duly rewarded for his compassion. 776 01:42:29,480 --> 01:42:35,760 Unlike his predecessors, Marwood was not abused by street children or reviled by society. 777 01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:42,120 This humanity won the respect of everyone from prisoner governors to his victim. 778 01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:47,320 So there was way to, you know, at least live a little bit longer. 779 01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:50,360 Taller people like me may be quite a bit longer. 780 01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:52,080 But anyway, I digress. 781 01:42:52,080 --> 01:43:09,520 We'll catch you on the next episode. 782 01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:26,880 The Ohio Haunted House Owners, actors and enthusiasts. 783 01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:30,880 Join the new Ohio Haunters Association. 784 01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:36,240 We are working with hunters across the state from home to pro to strengthen the Ohio Haunt 785 01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:37,740 community. 786 01:48:37,740 --> 01:48:43,440 Open to all owners, actors, makeup artists, prop builders, designers and Halloween paranormal 787 01:48:43,440 --> 01:48:44,440 enthusiasts. 788 01:48:44,440 --> 01:48:47,000 The Ohio Haunters Association. 789 01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:51,120 Our haunting is the heart of it all. 790 01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:53,120 For us on Facebook. 791 01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:47,080 It's time for Astiel Crone. 792 01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:52,200 A while back we talked about some good ways to brand your business. 793 01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:57,440 Everything from selecting your name, your logo, your image and presence in the marketplace. 794 01:49:57,440 --> 01:50:01,600 Well, what if you need to rebrand your business? 795 01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:07,060 There may be many reasons why you have to do or choose to rebrand. 796 01:50:07,060 --> 01:50:10,880 Maybe you're expanding, wanting to go in a different direction, or perhaps there's 797 01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:14,500 a dispute over the rights to your business name. 798 01:50:14,500 --> 01:50:17,840 Do you think it's just time to change things up? 799 01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:23,320 Well for whatever reasons, here are some quick guidelines of things to consider before proceeding 800 01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:25,920 of a rebranding. 801 01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:30,600 Make a list of everywhere your business name is because every single one of them needs to 802 01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:32,360 be updated. 803 01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:37,600 This will be easier if you can keep the same LLC or corporate name so all you have to do 804 01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:43,880 is change your DBA, doing business as, which will make taxes and legal items much easier 805 01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:45,560 to update. 806 01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:50,240 And don't forget to update your state and city licenses as well. 807 01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:55,280 Next think carefully on what your new brand and name will be. 808 01:50:55,280 --> 01:51:00,520 Due diligence is always important to make sure the name isn't taken or too similar to 809 01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:03,840 someone else's that creates an issue. 810 01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:08,400 It's easy to check for available names with your state and simply googling will help as 811 01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:09,920 well. 812 01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:16,560 If you can select something similar to what you currently have, it will help with recognition. 813 01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:19,400 Create a plan for launching your new brand. 814 01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:24,000 You can pretty much follow the same steps it takes to launch a new business. 815 01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:29,560 As soon as you update your website, social media, and all your legal paperwork, get 816 01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:31,200 the word out. 817 01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:36,320 Use this as a great marketing opportunity to reach out to your past patrons or customers 818 01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:40,080 and make yourself known to new ones. 819 01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:45,040 Regardless of what prompted you to rebrand your business, see it as a chance for growth 820 01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:47,520 and expansion. 821 01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:52,960 Change like growth can sometimes be painful, but it could be made less painful if you plan 822 01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:54,840 ahead. 823 01:51:54,840 --> 01:52:03,440 Until next time, don't forget to stir the cauldron. 824 01:52:03,440 --> 01:52:09,800 Stir the Haunted World of Frightfind and discover an environment dedicated to promoting your 825 01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:10,800 Haunt. 826 01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:15,280 Target customers who will influence others on tending Haunt attractions as Frightfind 827 01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:21,120 brings in Screamseekers looking for Haunted places, events, and accommodations of every 828 01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:22,120 sort. 829 01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:27,520 Various exposure options give you the ability to reach your audience throughout the year. 830 01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:34,800 Don't be afraid, go to Frightfind.com now to add your Haunt for free and see for yourself 831 01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:39,360 the difference Frightfind will make in your Haunt listing. 832 01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:47,160 Hey, this is WF Bell from Rob Zombie's 31 and The Walking Dead. 833 01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:52,240 You're listening to the Big Scary Show. 834 01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:58,080 It's a great adventure in the tradition of the guns of Navarone and the bridge on the 835 01:52:58,080 --> 01:52:59,080 River Quay. 836 01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:03,000 Spencer Tracy, Frank Sinatra, the Devil at Four O'Clock. 837 01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:08,400 Two men first met on the island of Tuluwa in the South Pacific under the black volcanic 838 01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:12,200 shadows of the Devil at Four O'Clock. 839 01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:17,600 One the island hopping Harry, the other Dunan, a holy man. 840 01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:19,120 Where are you from, tough guy? 841 01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:20,120 I hear echoes. 842 01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:21,600 What's it to you? 843 01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:22,600 You spit your teeth. 844 01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:23,600 That'll be Jersey. 845 01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:26,480 I come from just across the river, Hell's Kitchen. 846 01:53:26,480 --> 01:53:28,040 We used to eat punks like you. 847 01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:29,920 That's when you had your teeth. 848 01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:36,800 Together they raced against the damnable Devil at Four O'Clock. 849 01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:43,520 Spencer Tracy, Frank Sinatra, volcanic fury in Columbia Pictures, the Devil at Four O'Clock 850 01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:45,080 in exciting color. 851 01:53:45,080 --> 01:54:02,520 Virgil Franklin, Redneck Rump on the Big Scary Show. 852 01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:15,040 Have a great day. 853 01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:55,040 Music 854 01:56:55,040 --> 01:57:05,040 Music 855 01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:13,040 Music 856 01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:23,040 Music 857 01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:33,040 Music 858 01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:41,040 Music 859 01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:51,040 Music 860 01:57:51,040 --> 01:58:01,040 Music 861 01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:09,040 Music 862 01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:19,040 Music 863 01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:21,040 Music 864 01:58:21,040 --> 01:58:23,040 Ready to dress up your show? 865 01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:25,040 Need to pump new life into old props? 866 01:58:25,040 --> 01:58:29,040 Just want to show something no one else has? 867 01:58:29,040 --> 01:58:35,040 Do with Alice Cooper, Distortion's Unlimited, and A-list Haunters All Over The World do. 868 01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:42,040 Wear Van Karan, Durable, Handcrafted, Dependable, Year After Year. 869 01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:47,040 Van Karan, When You Scary Enough To Wear The Very Best. 870 01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:55,040 VanKaron.com, V-O-N-C-H-A-R-O-N.com. 871 01:58:55,040 --> 01:59:02,040 As we slide back into the swamp where we hid the body, we would like to thank the following sponsors. 872 01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:22,040 Screamline Studios, Creepy Collection, Dark Imaginings, Fright Finder, Haunt Pay, Van Karan Productions, and VFX Creates. 873 01:59:22,040 --> 01:59:31,040 We'd also like to thank Virgil Franklin, Master of the Ether Muse, and we couldn't do this without the three ghosts, including... 874 01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:38,040 Badger, Haunt Consulting & More, RabidBadger.org. 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