Good morning my beautiful friends wherever you are.
So today we shall talk about Thomasique planets also points
because Rahu and Ketu are not really planets.
They are abstract points in space.
Okay we will get to that later.
But speaking of Thomasique planets you have to understand this from the Thomasique energy perspective
which is to say Thomasique planets generally want to ground,
generally want to make physical whatever it is that a person wants to quote-unquote achieve in the physical world.
Remember everything is a vibration in the universe.
So whatever we are saying we want to achieve in the physical world is just temporary.
First of all, it is temporary. It is based on time.
It is based on only what you consider worthwhile achieving in the physical.
Let it be career, partnerships, wealth, money etc.
Even real estate there is nothing real about it.
You cannot own the land. The land owns you.
Okay so whatever we are trying to achieve through the Thomasique means
excuse my throat today is basically an illusion of sorts.
But this is what we work through.
This is the tendencies of Thomasique planets we bring through past lives
and we work through that through this lifetime.
So understand Thomasique planets not as something bad or not as something evil
or not as something to be avoided.
It is something to be worked through.
The whole purpose of me giving this podcast is for a broader and deeper view
of what these planets really represent in our charts and how we can work through them.
My coffee.
S early in the morning. Okay so let's get to the first Thomasique guy.
The first Thomasique planet is Mars and he is encapsulated as the warrior.
He is a soldier.
Think of his energy of a soldier on a battlefield.
That's Mars. He is going to drive. He is going to aggression.
And he is this funny thing about Mars. He is selfless action.
Mars doesn't know who he is. He is just a warrior.
He is just taking orders and getting things done.
He is the get shit done energy. He is Mars energy.
He is a soldier. He is a protector and he is a warrior.
He also stands for the physical active guy or the lady.
He is a mover. She is a hunter.
He or she has the passion to get material things done.
That's why Mars is the Karaka or the doer of the fourth house.
The house of property. Cars. Getting fancy cars and driving it.
Active in the body. The one who gives us house and vehicles.
That's the Mars energy.
The drive to achieve through physical activity and passion.
Mars is also for passion because it gives the drive.
It provides energy to wherever it stands.
And suppose Mars is in the first house looking in the seventh house.
You will be very aggressive towards your spouse.
If Mars is in the second house looking in the eighth house
you will be very aggressive in sexual intimacy matters.
So it's like that.
Mars has got the provides drive and energy to wherever it sits in.
He is the soldier. He has got drive. He has got aggression.
He has got energy which is personal and external to get things done.
He has got the fire. He has got the drive. He has got passion.
That's the Mars energy. The Mars the planet.
The first of the Thomasic ones. The second of the Thomasic planets.
Saturn.
Saturn is much feared in Vedic astrology and many other astrologers.
Saturn is what? Who is Saturn?
Saturn is the rebellious one. The worker.
The outcast. The pragmatic. The pessimistic.
And the frugal. Get the energy of all of this.
This is what Saturn stands for.
Let me go through that again. He is the rebellious. Saturn is the rebel.
He rebels wherever it sits in in whichever house in the chart.
He is a worker. He likes to work daily. He is the brick and mortar guy.
He put things together step by step.
Think of him as the mason who is building the house brick by brick.
That is Saturn. He is not a magician. He doesn't get everything done at once.
He goes thinks of doing things day by day.
Hour by hour, minute by minute. In months and years to come.
He is also the outcast. Nobody likes Saturn.
Throne out of the society. He is pragmatic.
Very very pessimistic. Saturn is very pessimistic.
This is what if depend... if it sits in the first house,
a person will be very depressive in his head or her head.
Very frugal. Saturn is not a spendthrift.
It will control the spending wherever spending of energy even.
Spending just doesn't mean in terms of monetary gain.
It may even mean spending in terms of energy.
We are all spending energy in one way or the other in this dimension.
He is the quiet laborer. He is the bureaucrat. He is practical.
He is an administrator. Works through fear and worry.
This is how Saturn teaches the karmic lessons. That's why he is called the lord of karma.
Works through the fear and worry. We all have fears. We all have worries.
Saturn is the one who works through this.
This is the lesson we are all here to learn to go through something.
Deals with hidden secrets, underground resources, lower dimensions of existence,
the shadow aspects. We all know about shadow.
We all know about death. Saturn is a lot of death, the underworld.
It's about hidden secrets. Saturn always deals with hidden stuff.
That's why he is the lord of the 12th house, Karaka of the 12th house
and the Karaka of the 8th house. It's all about hidden stuff.
Spirituality is about hidden stuff.
These two are the most spiritual houses, the 8th and the 12th.
One is about occult and mysticism. One is about renunciation.
Saturn is the provider of energy for both.
Saturn demands respect through slow and steady work in life.
Saturn demands a lot of respect. That's why these people with good powerful satan
make powerful positions in administration, in governance.
The top positions in government have a very powerful satan in their chart, by the way.
So it's not all bad.
Seeking to slow down, contraction of any quality of the house it sits in.
So Saturn wherever it sits in, it reduces it.
It seeks the contraction of it.
Ability to stop even the most negative aspects of the most negative houses.
For example, 6th, 8th and 12th houses are called in very astrology.
Dushtana houses are the bad houses. 6th house is for disease and enemies.
8th house is for sudden losses and gains and death.
And 12th house is for giving away losses, spirituality, renunciation.
They are considered negative houses.
But Saturn, if it looks at any one of these aspects, we will talk about aspects in the later podcast,
will slow down anything. It's like a fat guy sitting in a house.
It will slow down everything that it sits in.
The slowing down energy, that's why it's also called the Lord of Time.
It will give wisdom, but with harshness, Saturn is harsh.
It teaches through experience.
Life experience is what Saturn is about.
That's why it's also called the Lord of Karma.
Whatever you live through life, not through textbooks, not through learning a number of books,
let it be of whatever faith you are of.
It doesn't teach through that. It teaches through hard life experience.
That's the Saturn.
It's ironical because Saturn, whatever gifts it brings you after this experience,
it will make you keep. It will not even allow you to give it away
because you have earned practical wisdom to handle that aspect of life.
Difficulties of practical life through loss, death, disease, hard work.
Saturn is an old person, old, harsh, an impoverished teacher.
It's the one who is a prophet, is the one who is renounced,
is the old man with a beard who's all haggard.
Think of Saturn like that, who has learned the hard lessons of all the feathers of life.
And now he's in a position to teach and impart the wisdom which will never go away.
That's Saturn.
It is into seeking fame. This is another side of Saturn.
Saturn wants fame. Saturn demands respect.
See, there's a difference between Jupiter and Saturn.
Jupiter commands respect. Saturn demands it. That's why he's the rebel.
Saturn wants to work for humanity.
Jupiter wants to selflessly help the whole world. This is the beautiful aspect of Saturn.
He wants to help. He's selfless.
He wants to ground. Why? Because Saturn is a gaseous planet even physically.
It is seeking to ground. It's very airy. It's very etheric.
That's why people in Saturn, more powerful, have got a lot of gas related issue, bloating.
Because Saturn is a gaseous planet. It wants to ground. It wants to materialize things.
Saturn is also about in health terms. It's about bones and cartilage.
It's the thing that provides physical actualization in this dimension.
That's why it is Thomasic. Okay.
Now we come to the tricky ones. The first one of the abstract points in space.
This is Rahu and Ketu.
Or the North node and the South node of the Moon.
Now in Western Astrology, they will put it as North node is the direction or the destiny of your life.
And South node is what you accomplished in the previous life. Partly true.
I would say partly true. Not entirely.
So what is Rahu and Ketu? Rahu and Ketu are the points in space.
Where the orbits of the Moon are on the Earth and orbit of the Earth around the Sun.
Think of these two orbits. They are two separate circles.
And they intersect at some point.
The North part of that intersection is called Rahu or the North node.
The South part of that intersection point. It's a virtual point in space.
It's called Ketu or the South node.
Okay. So what is Rahu stand for as per Vedic Astrology?
He is the obsessive guy. Obsessive compulsive woman or the man.
Obsessive compulsive drive energy in us is Rahu.
He is the imposter. He behaves like the Lord of the sign it sits in.
That's what is called as the dispositor or one who disposes that particular energy to the house.
For example, if Rahu is in the seventh house, you'll be obsessed about having relations with the opposite sex.
You'll be obsessed about intimate relationships. Why? Because it sits in the seventh house.
Suppose the Lord of the seventh house is Mars.
Then you'll be even more into it. It will act like Mars.
If the Lord of the seventh house is Jupiter, then you'll want to make you act like Jupiter.
That's what I mean by imposter. Rahu is an imposter. He doesn't have a personality of his own.
He just acts like the person or the Lord of the house it sits in.
Next quality. It explodes or over amplifies the house qualities it sits in.
Over amplification. This is explosion. This is not like Jupiter energy. Don't confuse. This is a tamasic energy.
It exaggerates everything. Rahu is an exaggerator.
It wants to make things larger than life to feel something.
Rahu is the energy in all of us which is obsessive about something.
It has the characteristic of endless wanting. Never satisfied.
Rahu is never satisfied. It is the head of the demon.
Rahu and Ketu are characterized in Vedic astrology as the head of the demon and the body of the demon.
Rahu is the head. The body is Ketu.
So it's endless wanting. Rahu can keep eating and never be satisfied. He doesn't have a tummy to fill.
It's just the head continuously eating something.
It's also called the one who wants to take hold and release because it moves on to the next taffra who is constantly obsessive.
This is the obsessive energy in all of us. Understand it in energetic terms.
This obsession and exaggeration through sign and through house.
What do I mean by sign? There are 12 zodiac signs and there are 12 houses.
If you want more details on the houses and everything, watch my YouTube channel of the progressive astrology part 1 and then you will see what the houses mean.
The houses as per Vedic astrology.
So it will do obsession and exaggeration through sign and house.
It is into moving desire for materialistic aspect.
This is the reason why Rahu in Vedic astrology is called Bhoga Karaka. Bhoga means to enjoy material gains, material benefits.
Rahu wants to materialize everything.
Through obsession of the external world, Rahu is wherever it sits, it wants the material aspect of that.
That's why the tamasik.
Okay, so now the next, the counterpart of that who sits 180 degrees apart from Rahu is Ketu.
The reclusive is the opposite energy of Rahu.
Ketu is reclusive, is withdrawn, introverted, doesn't want anything to do with the external world.
One might think this is spiritual but it isn't.
You are not participating in the world. You are not very spiritual.
We have come here to participate and make something real yet to be detached.
This is the paradox of spirituality.
So Rahu is reclusive, withdrawn, introverted. He is an imposter again.
He behaves like the Lord in the sign.
It sits in, this is just a point 180 degrees apart from Rahu.
So wherever Rahu sits, right opposite to him will be Ketu.
So if you're Rahu is in the 8th house, you'll be obsessed about sex and intimacy and occult.
But it's in the second house, so you'll be detached from family wealth.
I have seen this personally in charts.
So it implodes or oversimplifies or detaches from the house qualities it sits in.
This is an endless dissolution or endless non attachment of things.
You might have seen this in practical life. People have things but they are not attached to it.
That a house, this person having all this wealth and doesn't bother about the wealth, they are not enjoying the wealth.
This Ketu is the reason why people have things but they are not really invested in it.
Energetically they are like detached from it. That's the Ketu energy.
Ketu provides stuff but it doesn't make you enjoy. It makes you withdraw from it.
This is another form of Tamas or another form of illusion.
It is not spirituality. Spirituality is not an illusion.
It is more real than the material but anyway we digress.
So endless dissolution, non attachment, letting go and withdraw through sign and house.
Whichever sign and house it sits in, Ketu or the south lord of the moon will make you withdraw from that aspect or the things of that house.
It is into letting go of the materialistic aspect through dissolution of external needs and attachments.
So we have here the Rahu which wants to go towards material opposite end on the other side.
The tail of Rahu, western astrology even refers to as the dragon's head and the dragon's tail.
And Vedic astrology refers to it as the demon's head and the demon's body. So all kind of negative connotations are given.
But basically it's the energy of obsession and opposite energy of non attachment or dissolution.
We're drawing from one thing, going towards another thing.
So it's an axis of energy in our charts which makes a person move towards certain things or want certain things and not attach towards the opposite side of that.
In actuality if you see there is nothing like that. It's just the obsession, compulsion of the person.
For example if you have two people with opposite Rahu Ketu. One has Rahu in the 8th house and Ketu in the 2nd house.
Another person has Rahu in the 2nd house and Ketu in the 8th house. These people feel like completely opposite views of life.
One is obsessed about wealth and family. Doesn't bother about spirituality or cult or money.
And the other person is obsessed about occult and doesn't bother about money.
But these two are just opposite ends of the same spectrum.
It's just an obsessive compulsive energy of the mind and of what kind of karmas we bring in.
What kind of issues did we have last life that we want to experience more in this lifetime.
That's all it comes down to folks. The astrological perspectives should give you an idea of what is the soul driving or wanting to experience in this lifetime.
The soul is something that we spoke of soul as just something that wants to expand.
Wants an experience and use the experience in the physical as a means to derive expansion.
That's the main quality of the soul.
Okay so this is my brief take on the Tamasic planets. Tomorrow we will discuss other aspects.
If you want to watch on this go to my YouTube channel if you require detailed presentations.
The link is linked up in the description of the podcast channel.
And I'll see you tomorrow with more stuff on Vedic Astrology. Have a great day and be safe.