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Good morning my beautiful friends wherever you are.

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So today we shall talk about Thomasique planets also points

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because Rahu and Ketu are not really planets.

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They are abstract points in space.

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Okay we will get to that later.

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But speaking of Thomasique planets you have to understand this from the Thomasique energy perspective

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which is to say Thomasique planets generally want to ground,

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generally want to make physical whatever it is that a person wants to quote-unquote achieve in the physical world.

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Remember everything is a vibration in the universe.

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So whatever we are saying we want to achieve in the physical world is just temporary.

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First of all, it is temporary. It is based on time.

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It is based on only what you consider worthwhile achieving in the physical.

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Let it be career, partnerships, wealth, money etc.

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Even real estate there is nothing real about it.

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You cannot own the land. The land owns you.

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Okay so whatever we are trying to achieve through the Thomasique means

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excuse my throat today is basically an illusion of sorts.

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But this is what we work through.

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This is the tendencies of Thomasique planets we bring through past lives

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and we work through that through this lifetime.

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So understand Thomasique planets not as something bad or not as something evil

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or not as something to be avoided.

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It is something to be worked through.

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The whole purpose of me giving this podcast is for a broader and deeper view

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of what these planets really represent in our charts and how we can work through them.

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My coffee.

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S early in the morning. Okay so let's get to the first Thomasique guy.

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The first Thomasique planet is Mars and he is encapsulated as the warrior.

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He is a soldier.

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Think of his energy of a soldier on a battlefield.

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That's Mars. He is going to drive. He is going to aggression.

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And he is this funny thing about Mars. He is selfless action.

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Mars doesn't know who he is. He is just a warrior.

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He is just taking orders and getting things done.

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He is the get shit done energy. He is Mars energy.

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He is a soldier. He is a protector and he is a warrior.

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He also stands for the physical active guy or the lady.

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He is a mover. She is a hunter.

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He or she has the passion to get material things done.

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That's why Mars is the Karaka or the doer of the fourth house.

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The house of property. Cars. Getting fancy cars and driving it.

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Active in the body. The one who gives us house and vehicles.

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That's the Mars energy.

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The drive to achieve through physical activity and passion.

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Mars is also for passion because it gives the drive.

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It provides energy to wherever it stands.

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And suppose Mars is in the first house looking in the seventh house.

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You will be very aggressive towards your spouse.

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If Mars is in the second house looking in the eighth house

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you will be very aggressive in sexual intimacy matters.

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So it's like that.

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Mars has got the provides drive and energy to wherever it sits in.

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He is the soldier. He has got drive. He has got aggression.

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He has got energy which is personal and external to get things done.

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He has got the fire. He has got the drive. He has got passion.

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That's the Mars energy. The Mars the planet.

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The first of the Thomasic ones. The second of the Thomasic planets.

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Saturn.

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Saturn is much feared in Vedic astrology and many other astrologers.

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Saturn is what? Who is Saturn?

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Saturn is the rebellious one. The worker.

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The outcast. The pragmatic. The pessimistic.

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And the frugal. Get the energy of all of this.

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This is what Saturn stands for.

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Let me go through that again. He is the rebellious. Saturn is the rebel.

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He rebels wherever it sits in in whichever house in the chart.

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He is a worker. He likes to work daily. He is the brick and mortar guy.

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He put things together step by step.

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Think of him as the mason who is building the house brick by brick.

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That is Saturn. He is not a magician. He doesn't get everything done at once.

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He goes thinks of doing things day by day.

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Hour by hour, minute by minute. In months and years to come.

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He is also the outcast. Nobody likes Saturn.

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Throne out of the society. He is pragmatic.

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Very very pessimistic. Saturn is very pessimistic.

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This is what if depend... if it sits in the first house,

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a person will be very depressive in his head or her head.

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Very frugal. Saturn is not a spendthrift.

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It will control the spending wherever spending of energy even.

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Spending just doesn't mean in terms of monetary gain.

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It may even mean spending in terms of energy.

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We are all spending energy in one way or the other in this dimension.

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He is the quiet laborer. He is the bureaucrat. He is practical.

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He is an administrator. Works through fear and worry.

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This is how Saturn teaches the karmic lessons. That's why he is called the lord of karma.

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Works through the fear and worry. We all have fears. We all have worries.

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Saturn is the one who works through this.

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This is the lesson we are all here to learn to go through something.

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Deals with hidden secrets, underground resources, lower dimensions of existence,

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the shadow aspects. We all know about shadow.

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We all know about death. Saturn is a lot of death, the underworld.

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It's about hidden secrets. Saturn always deals with hidden stuff.

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That's why he is the lord of the 12th house, Karaka of the 12th house

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and the Karaka of the 8th house. It's all about hidden stuff.

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Spirituality is about hidden stuff.

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These two are the most spiritual houses, the 8th and the 12th.

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One is about occult and mysticism. One is about renunciation.

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Saturn is the provider of energy for both.

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Saturn demands respect through slow and steady work in life.

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Saturn demands a lot of respect. That's why these people with good powerful satan

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make powerful positions in administration, in governance.

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The top positions in government have a very powerful satan in their chart, by the way.

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So it's not all bad.

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Seeking to slow down, contraction of any quality of the house it sits in.

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So Saturn wherever it sits in, it reduces it.

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It seeks the contraction of it.

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Ability to stop even the most negative aspects of the most negative houses.

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For example, 6th, 8th and 12th houses are called in very astrology.

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Dushtana houses are the bad houses. 6th house is for disease and enemies.

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8th house is for sudden losses and gains and death.

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And 12th house is for giving away losses, spirituality, renunciation.

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They are considered negative houses.

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But Saturn, if it looks at any one of these aspects, we will talk about aspects in the later podcast,

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will slow down anything. It's like a fat guy sitting in a house.

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It will slow down everything that it sits in.

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The slowing down energy, that's why it's also called the Lord of Time.

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It will give wisdom, but with harshness, Saturn is harsh.

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It teaches through experience.

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Life experience is what Saturn is about.

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That's why it's also called the Lord of Karma.

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Whatever you live through life, not through textbooks, not through learning a number of books,

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let it be of whatever faith you are of.

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It doesn't teach through that. It teaches through hard life experience.

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That's the Saturn.

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It's ironical because Saturn, whatever gifts it brings you after this experience,

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it will make you keep. It will not even allow you to give it away

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because you have earned practical wisdom to handle that aspect of life.

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Difficulties of practical life through loss, death, disease, hard work.

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Saturn is an old person, old, harsh, an impoverished teacher.

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It's the one who is a prophet, is the one who is renounced,

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is the old man with a beard who's all haggard.

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Think of Saturn like that, who has learned the hard lessons of all the feathers of life.

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And now he's in a position to teach and impart the wisdom which will never go away.

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That's Saturn.

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It is into seeking fame. This is another side of Saturn.

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Saturn wants fame. Saturn demands respect.

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See, there's a difference between Jupiter and Saturn.

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Jupiter commands respect. Saturn demands it. That's why he's the rebel.

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Saturn wants to work for humanity.

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Jupiter wants to selflessly help the whole world. This is the beautiful aspect of Saturn.

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He wants to help. He's selfless.

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He wants to ground. Why? Because Saturn is a gaseous planet even physically.

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It is seeking to ground. It's very airy. It's very etheric.

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That's why people in Saturn, more powerful, have got a lot of gas related issue, bloating.

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Because Saturn is a gaseous planet. It wants to ground. It wants to materialize things.

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Saturn is also about in health terms. It's about bones and cartilage.

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It's the thing that provides physical actualization in this dimension.

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That's why it is Thomasic. Okay.

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Now we come to the tricky ones. The first one of the abstract points in space.

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This is Rahu and Ketu.

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Or the North node and the South node of the Moon.

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Now in Western Astrology, they will put it as North node is the direction or the destiny of your life.

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And South node is what you accomplished in the previous life. Partly true.

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I would say partly true. Not entirely.

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So what is Rahu and Ketu? Rahu and Ketu are the points in space.

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Where the orbits of the Moon are on the Earth and orbit of the Earth around the Sun.

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Think of these two orbits. They are two separate circles.

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And they intersect at some point.

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The North part of that intersection is called Rahu or the North node.

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The South part of that intersection point. It's a virtual point in space.

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It's called Ketu or the South node.

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Okay. So what is Rahu stand for as per Vedic Astrology?

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He is the obsessive guy. Obsessive compulsive woman or the man.

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Obsessive compulsive drive energy in us is Rahu.

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He is the imposter. He behaves like the Lord of the sign it sits in.

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That's what is called as the dispositor or one who disposes that particular energy to the house.

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For example, if Rahu is in the seventh house, you'll be obsessed about having relations with the opposite sex.

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You'll be obsessed about intimate relationships. Why? Because it sits in the seventh house.

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Then you'll be even more into it. It will act like Mars.

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If the Lord of the seventh house is Jupiter, then you'll want to make you act like Jupiter.

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That's what I mean by imposter. Rahu is an imposter. He doesn't have a personality of his own.

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He just acts like the person or the Lord of the house it sits in.

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Next quality. It explodes or over amplifies the house qualities it sits in.

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Over amplification. This is explosion. This is not like Jupiter energy. Don't confuse. This is a tamasic energy.

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It exaggerates everything. Rahu is an exaggerator.

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It wants to make things larger than life to feel something.

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Rahu is the energy in all of us which is obsessive about something.

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It has the characteristic of endless wanting. Never satisfied.

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Rahu is never satisfied. It is the head of the demon.

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Rahu and Ketu are characterized in Vedic astrology as the head of the demon and the body of the demon.

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Rahu is the head. The body is Ketu.

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So it's endless wanting. Rahu can keep eating and never be satisfied. He doesn't have a tummy to fill.

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It's just the head continuously eating something.

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It's also called the one who wants to take hold and release because it moves on to the next taffra who is constantly obsessive.

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This is the obsessive energy in all of us. Understand it in energetic terms.

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This obsession and exaggeration through sign and through house.

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What do I mean by sign? There are 12 zodiac signs and there are 12 houses.

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If you want more details on the houses and everything, watch my YouTube channel of the progressive astrology part 1 and then you will see what the houses mean.

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The houses as per Vedic astrology.

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So it will do obsession and exaggeration through sign and house.

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It is into moving desire for materialistic aspect.

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This is the reason why Rahu in Vedic astrology is called Bhoga Karaka. Bhoga means to enjoy material gains, material benefits.

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Rahu wants to materialize everything.

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Through obsession of the external world, Rahu is wherever it sits, it wants the material aspect of that.

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That's why the tamasik.

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Okay, so now the next, the counterpart of that who sits 180 degrees apart from Rahu is Ketu.

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The reclusive is the opposite energy of Rahu.

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Ketu is reclusive, is withdrawn, introverted, doesn't want anything to do with the external world.

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One might think this is spiritual but it isn't.

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You are not participating in the world. You are not very spiritual.

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We have come here to participate and make something real yet to be detached.

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This is the paradox of spirituality.

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So Rahu is reclusive, withdrawn, introverted. He is an imposter again.

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He behaves like the Lord in the sign.

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It sits in, this is just a point 180 degrees apart from Rahu.

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So wherever Rahu sits, right opposite to him will be Ketu.

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So if you're Rahu is in the 8th house, you'll be obsessed about sex and intimacy and occult.

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But it's in the second house, so you'll be detached from family wealth.

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I have seen this personally in charts.

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So it implodes or oversimplifies or detaches from the house qualities it sits in.

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This is an endless dissolution or endless non attachment of things.

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You might have seen this in practical life. People have things but they are not attached to it.

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That a house, this person having all this wealth and doesn't bother about the wealth, they are not enjoying the wealth.

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This Ketu is the reason why people have things but they are not really invested in it.

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Energetically they are like detached from it. That's the Ketu energy.

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Ketu provides stuff but it doesn't make you enjoy. It makes you withdraw from it.

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This is another form of Tamas or another form of illusion.

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It is not spirituality. Spirituality is not an illusion.

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It is more real than the material but anyway we digress.

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So endless dissolution, non attachment, letting go and withdraw through sign and house.

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Whichever sign and house it sits in, Ketu or the south lord of the moon will make you withdraw from that aspect or the things of that house.

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It is into letting go of the materialistic aspect through dissolution of external needs and attachments.

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So we have here the Rahu which wants to go towards material opposite end on the other side.

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The tail of Rahu, western astrology even refers to as the dragon's head and the dragon's tail.

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And Vedic astrology refers to it as the demon's head and the demon's body. So all kind of negative connotations are given.

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But basically it's the energy of obsession and opposite energy of non attachment or dissolution.

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We're drawing from one thing, going towards another thing.

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So it's an axis of energy in our charts which makes a person move towards certain things or want certain things and not attach towards the opposite side of that.

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In actuality if you see there is nothing like that. It's just the obsession, compulsion of the person.

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For example if you have two people with opposite Rahu Ketu. One has Rahu in the 8th house and Ketu in the 2nd house.

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Another person has Rahu in the 2nd house and Ketu in the 8th house. These people feel like completely opposite views of life.

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One is obsessed about wealth and family. Doesn't bother about spirituality or cult or money.

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And the other person is obsessed about occult and doesn't bother about money.

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But these two are just opposite ends of the same spectrum.

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It's just an obsessive compulsive energy of the mind and of what kind of karmas we bring in.

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What kind of issues did we have last life that we want to experience more in this lifetime.

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That's all it comes down to folks. The astrological perspectives should give you an idea of what is the soul driving or wanting to experience in this lifetime.

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The soul is something that we spoke of soul as just something that wants to expand.

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Wants an experience and use the experience in the physical as a means to derive expansion.

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That's the main quality of the soul.

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Okay so this is my brief take on the Tamasic planets. Tomorrow we will discuss other aspects.

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If you want to watch on this go to my YouTube channel if you require detailed presentations.

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The link is linked up in the description of the podcast channel.

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And I'll see you tomorrow with more stuff on Vedic Astrology. Have a great day and be safe.

