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Hi, I'm Zee. And I'm Rowan. Welcome back to the

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Business Abundance podcast. Today, we're going

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to be talking about how to make a business that

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runs itself. Rowan, can you tell us why that's

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actually an important topic to talk about? Yeah,

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it's pretty important because your business is

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a big part of your life and probably, you know,

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have to do with your financial security. So if

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you have a business that does not run itself

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and you're not there, then what happens? Not

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much. Or nothing good. Maybe something good,

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you know. You don't know. That's the problem.

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So a business that runs itself, it's an asset

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that's generating your income. It's helping you

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rather than hindering you. Yeah. There are so

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many times when there's been someone who they

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feel like they cannot leave their business because

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it's just going to turn to chaos like Armageddon

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is going to happen if they are not there or they're

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just, it's going to fall through. That's so true.

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Yeah, it's terrifying for them and just, I guess,

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an easy fix. Yeah, it's not necessarily easy.

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Like if it was easy, no one would have that problem.

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But, you know, there's lots of different causes

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why that might happen. But a few small things,

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different mindset, definitely over time, bit

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of work can definitely help. We're going to unpack

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it. Unpack. Welcome to the Business Abundance

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So we all know McDonald's. Maybe we like cheeseburgers,

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maybe we don't like cheeseburgers. He doesn't

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like cheeseburgers, but I love cheeseburgers.

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I used to have a dog that really loved cheeseburgers.

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But anyway, McDonald's is a really good example

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of a business that runs itself. So some people

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think, oh, that's a huge business, that's a massive

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franchise, but they're all owned by someone.

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The big corporation is definitely not owned by

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a small person, but each, the one in Devonport,

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the one in Wollongong, if there's one in Wollongong,

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will be owned by a person. Why do we talk about

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McDonald's running itself? If you go to McDonald's

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here, it's gonna be the same as McDonald's there.

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If you go to McDonald's overseas, largely, it's

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gonna be the same thing. You can expect the same

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service. You can expect a lot of the same products.

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The quality of the food, where the food came

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from, pretty similar. Sources, similar. Training,

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similar. There's a whole instruction manual.

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McDonald's is a really good example of a business

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that runs itself. Do you ever see the business

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owner of McDonald's at a McDonald's? I don't

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think I've ever seen one. I don't even know who

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it is. Yeah, well, that's the thing. The people

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in your local town, who owes McDonald's? Does

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anyone know? Ronald McDonald. Ronald McDonald.

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It's not Ronald McDonald. It's probably some

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guy called Philip Smith. So yeah, McDonald's

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is a great example of business that runs itself.

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How does that apply to a small business? Oh,

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it's just a good example of what you should aspire

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to. So what's the difference between a business

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that runs itself and a business that doesn't

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run itself? Let's use an example of one that

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doesn't run itself. So think of a landscaper.

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You can go do it, buy a trailer, get some tools,

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get a few jobs. Once you get a few jobs, you'll

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probably get a few referrals. And then probably

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within two months, you're going to have stacks

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of work because they're all pretty busy most

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of the year, right? What happens when the landscaper

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goes on holiday? No income. No income, spot on.

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That was a pretty easy guess there. Yeah, look,

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I'm smart. She's actually smart. So the landscape,

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when they go on holiday, it's not just no works

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happening, but no one's talking to the clients.

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So is that a business that runs itself? No, because

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that person has to be there, has to answer the

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phone, has to do the quote, has to do the work,

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has to send the bill, has to do the bookkeeping.

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That's just a single person doing that, right?

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But to have that job, that's not a business.

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So how do you turn that into McDonald's? You

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probably need 100 ,000 employees, right? No,

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that's not necessarily the case. It's going,

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well, what's my business model? My business model

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is I get clients from posting ads here, here,

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here. Okay, cool. Can we turn that into a system

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or can we pay someone to do that for us? Good.

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What's the next thing? We need to take the phone

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calls. Okay. Am I taking the phone calls? That's

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my job. Yep. No worries. That's part of what

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I do. No, I don't want to take the phone calls.

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Okay. Well, I need someone who answers the phone.

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What's the process? So on and so on through the

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whole business. So then you can go from just

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having one person that does everything to having

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a bunch of people that can do the business. And

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then if you're not there as a business owner,

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you can say, well, fill in for me, do this part.

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or do this part because someone's doing the quotes,

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someone's winning the work, someone's doing the

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work. You can easily turn any business into something

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that works for you rather than you working in

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it. Yeah, there's so many trades people. And

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for us, we're about to go into the Christmas

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period and all those trades people who own their

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own business and they're one of the four employees,

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like if they're not there and they run the business,

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they're missing out on income for a whole month.

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and they just want a break. Understandably, they

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just want a break, but in doing that, they're

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sacrificing such a big income. So it's a good

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segue into my first question for you is why does

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someone want a business that runs itself? Oh

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yeah, good question. So some people don't want

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a business that runs itself. So I'll just answer

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a different question first and we'll come back

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to that. But a lot of people do want a job. They

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just want to work. So that's fine. If that's

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what you're going for, you just want to work

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in your own job and you run your job, no worries.

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But don't kid yourself and call it a business.

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It's not a business if you were doing all the

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work. So why should people want to grow the business

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and make it so it works without them? Well, number

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one, It's financial security. So we've got families

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or we've got bills to pay or whatever that is.

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If something happens to you, touch wood, nothing

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ever happens to people. But things happen. You

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might get sick. Someone in your family might

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get sick. You might have an accident. Who knows?

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If you are 100 % your business, you're not going

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to get any income, which is pretty risky. The

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second thing is that if you have a business that

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runs itself, you can grow that business. you

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can make more money out of that business. Instead

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of making $100 ,000 a year just doing it yourself,

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you can make $400 ,000 a year with a few other

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people, which sounds great. And there's problems

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and you've got to learn how to manage people

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and you've got to learn business to do that.

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But that's what we're talking about today. So

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money is a big thing, but stress is another one.

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If you have a job and you always have to do everything,

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you're on the call for your clients all the time.

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So if no one answers the phone, Client doesn't

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talk to anyone. Client doesn't talk to anyone.

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Client gets angry. They take it out and who have

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answered the phone next, which is probably going

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to be you. And that's no fun. Or before Christmas,

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we're recording this just before Christmas here

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in Australia. And everyone's trying to make deadlines.

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So a lot of our clients are just flat out busy

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at the moment. They're like, hey, don't talk

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to us because we're just busy. And so that's

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fine. No worries. Good luck. If you're doing

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everything yourself, it's pretty stressful. If

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you've got a larger business, you've got more

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people to help, it sort of spreads the load,

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spreads the stress. You can sort of know that

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things can happen. And if they don't work, you

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can look at, well, how can we make it so it works

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in the future? And that's what making a business

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run for you is really about. How can we fix this

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for the future? So I know we touched on people

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who don't want their business. They actually

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enjoy running their business. They like being

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involved in it. They enjoy doing all of those

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things. I mean, it almost there's like that micro

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management they don't want to get or pull themselves

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away from the business in the fear that it's

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just going to crumble. How do you navigate that?

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Yeah. So it's probably where that comes from.

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There's there's lots of different reasons. There

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might be people like being the center of attention.

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We all know a few people like that, right? I

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think you were talking to me about a three -year

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-old or four -year -old that loves being the

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center of attention. She's beautiful. She'll

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grow up and be that person. Maybe, maybe not.

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Be quiet, Ron. Some people just like being involved

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in everything. They like the importance. They

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like the fact that everyone's going to them.

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They like the fact that all the clients are ringing

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them. It's that social status, really, or the

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sense of importance. You see it in workplaces.

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from non -self -employed people, just employees

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and businesses, they are protecting their job.

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It's also that I want to be important, but it's

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also I'm doing all of this so no one can replace

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me. I'm not going to show anyone or train anyone

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because then I can't be fired and I'm super important

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and then you have to pay me more, which is a

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terrible place to be. Really, don't do that.

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So what was your question again? What would you

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say to the people who want to be deeply involved

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and don't actually. So yeah, so if you're one

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of those people that want to be involved in everything,

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maybe it's not the ego, it's more, like you said,

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people that are afraid that if I don't do this,

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it's going to go wrong, which is a big factor.

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And that's probably the majority of people. And

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to be fair, if they don't do it, it probably

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does go wrong. That's their fault though. If

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that's you, that's your fault, which sounds pretty

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harsh, but it's true. you're the business owner,

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you control what happened in the business, you

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let it get to where it is. You are the one responsible

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for changing it. That's no one else's job. So

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how do you get there? I'm not saying it's your

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fault, you're never going to fix it, but it's

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probably worthwhile just understanding why that

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is. A lot of people go into business because

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they're good at what they do. So if you're a

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tiler, you're great at tiling and you think,

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geez, instead of getting 30 bucks an hour, I

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can get two grand a job and do one job every

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two days and then I'm making Fair bit of money.

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Yeah. Rather than a thousand bucks a week, you

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know, I'm getting a few thousand a week. That's

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great. That sounds great, doesn't it? But being

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a good tyler doesn't mean you're good at business

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and vice versa. I'm probably pretty good at business,

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but I wouldn't do tiling. You know, I'm going

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to muck it up. Crushed you with a stick. Yeah.

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It's going to take me two weeks and probably

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better off doing something else and paying someone

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than I'm not going to break anything. So people

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go into business because they're good at what

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they do. They get a few clients, it gets bigger.

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They get a few employees. They don't know how

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to manage people because that's not part of an

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apprenticeship. They don't know how to manage

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finances because it's not part of an apprenticeship.

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You don't learn that at school. You don't learn

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that from your parents. You just don't learn

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these things. So you've got people, you've got

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laws, you've got compliance, you've got all this

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stuff to learn. And people that have started

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a business have done really well because they

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will have an understanding of all those things.

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the parts that get out of control because they

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lack the skills or the knowledge to change it

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and make it work how they want. And that's when

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people have to or feel like they have to just

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get so involved in the business, can't pull out

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of it because if they don't, it's just going

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to turn into chaos. Yeah, exactly. So we can't

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let this person do it because they're not going

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to do a good job and then we're not going to

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have any work and we need work because I need

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money. Yeah, that's pretty serious stuff. You

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can't just leave it to them and hope for the

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best, can you? Gotta employ good people. So Rowant

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Howe, would you create a business that runs itself?

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Can you unpack those points for us? Business

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is fundamentally pretty simple. It's about making

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a model. People dealt with me before, they'll

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know I talk about making models. If you're putting

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a flat pack table together. There's some plans,

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there's some instructions and varying levels

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of how good those instructions are, right? But

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generally there's a few pictures that say there's

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this stage, this stage, this stage, figure it

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out. Or going right through to here's what each

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piece is called, each piece is labelled, here's

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step by step what you do. And it comes out looking

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pretty good, pretty easily. The flip side of

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that is having no plan. and trying to figure

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it out, which is probably every single movie

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when someone's doing flat pack, putting something

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together, the couple's having a good fight about

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who's right, who's wrong. But business is no

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different. You need to start, watch your model

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look like. Does that make sense? It does. What's

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next? What's next? So you've got your model and

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you say, okay, well, how do we do a model? Probably

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needs to tell you how to make the model. Yeah.

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So I talked before about... where does your business

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start and where does your business finish? Your

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business starts with a client. How do you get

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a client? We talk to people, okay? Are there

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any other ways you get clients? We write that

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down. This is how we get clients and you can

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break that down. This is writing systems and

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procedures, right? But you don't have to do a

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full detail, but just like make a map. We get

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clients from here and here. This is what we do.

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What happens when we get a client? We do this.

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We get their details, we get their address, we

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put them in our system. boom, boom, boom, boom,

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boom. How do we look after our clients? Well,

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we have these three different services or we

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sell them these products, whatever that is. We

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do this, this, this, this. How do we do that?

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You can put some dot points there. So it's just

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depending on the level of detail you go into

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as to whether you're having some simple instructions

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for someone to follow or some that require a

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bit of expertise to decipher. So if it's just

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for you, just for your understanding, well, it

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can be pretty basic. If you're trying to give

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it to someone to learn, you need it to be more

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detailed. So it's just a matter of going through

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every single thing in your business and dot point.

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Well, this is what happens. This is what happens.

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Now, when you do that, a lot of people go wrong.

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I can't do that because it's just complicated.

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Yeah. There's so much stuff that they feel like

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they have to unpack. Yeah. Um, but then the self

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is the reason why your business is hard to run.

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Most businesses, if you break it down, you're

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really serious. 80 % of the value, 80 % of the

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work, 80 % of the profit, 80 % of the things

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is from 20 % of what you do. So when you go through

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that, a lot of the things you do, you can probably

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see once you write them down or show it to someone,

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why do you do that? Do you need to do that? And

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you go, oh, I just did it once. I just do it

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because once I had this problem. Did you have

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a problem any other time? No, just this once.

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Okay, so is it likely to happen again? No, you

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probably don't need to do that. And the flip

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side of that would be, I've got that in there

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because half the time when we do that, we'll

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have this problem or a client will ask us this.

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So we always tell them in advance. That's a great

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thing to do in your business. But you know, if

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you're offering 20 different services, but people

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only really need three of them, you can probably

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simplify your business there and make it easy

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for yourself. Yeah. I'll tell you a little story.

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I was talking to a business owner last week and

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he had a business that did several different

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things. One of them was making tennis courts.

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Tennis courts were the most complicated part

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of what that business did. It wasn't necessarily

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the most profitable. It was a high dollar value

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job, like they were big jobs to do, but they

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were complicated. It required several different

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contractors coming in. If you get one little

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bit wrong, then there was a lot of work to fix

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it, potentially a lot of materials that needed

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replacing. And really the main dollar value of

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the job was materials and the contractors. When

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I was asking about his business and the different

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services he did, he's like, Oh, well, I actually

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like this part better. It's simpler. It's easier.

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We make great money from it and no one else does

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it or no one else does it to our level because

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of this, this, this, this, this, and we've got

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all the contacts. We've got all these things

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set up and I won't get into detail what that

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was. It's not relevant, but why don't you just

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not do those tennis courts? Oh, you know, He

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thought about it and he said to me like 10 minutes

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later, I was really just talking to you. That

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just makes a lot of sense. I'll just stop doing

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that. I know a way less stress and really it

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doesn't make too much impact. And I could probably

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do more of this, this other stuff that I can't

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get to now. And everything's just so much easier.

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So sometimes when you just write down, this is

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what my business does. You notice those things

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more. That was just a little conversation. He

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knew straight away because he had that map in

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his head, but you write it down, it gets a bit

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more real. Yeah. So then you can understand every

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part of your business and then take the next

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steps, essentially. Yeah. So talking about next

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steps, if you've sort of got that understanding

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of your model of your business, and maybe you

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haven't got it written down, maybe it's in your

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head, because depending on the level you're at,

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you might have it in your head. That's fine.

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But it just means you can't share it or show

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it, or if you're having a bad head day, you can't

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figure it out. But if you have a problem in your

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business... Gee, this is frustrating. My employees

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always muck this one thing up. You can go back

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to your model and look at like at what point

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can we fix this proactively. So if a client's

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always having the same issue, they're always

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calling you saying, oh, where are these people?

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Oh, maybe go to your model and say, well, how

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can we let these people know where we are in

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advance? Can we do it automatically? Yeah, we

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can. Okay, cool. Let's just do that. And then

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you never have that problem ever again. Yeah,

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so I guess it's automating Every part of that

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model is that essentially what we need to do

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to make a business run itself If you can automate

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everything that would be great in like use robots,

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but as in automate Have someone else do it on

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your behalf Yeah, it depends on the size of your

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business if you're if you're there by yourself

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and you're growing you're not gonna be able to

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afford ten people to do everything right, but

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it's been aware of you're wearing different hats,

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you're doing different jobs, and they are different

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jobs. So as you grow, as you get busier, this

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is using a lot of my time now, I can pay someone

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to do these tasks, here they are, this is what

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they are, and I can offload those. Automating

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what you can, of course, and systematizing things

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is very important. But just being aware of your

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model and aware of what's going on makes it much

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easier to make changes rather than just reacting

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all the time. Yeah. Using that example, the clients

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were going, oh, I've got this problem. I don't

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know where people are. If you're always reacting,

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you're always getting that phone call, you stop

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answering it. That's what most people do. Having

00:19:03.410 --> 00:19:05.529
the model working on your business is about fixing

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why did that problem occur, fixing it in the

00:19:08.069 --> 00:19:09.890
future so you never have that problem again.

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It's not a quick fix by the sounds of it. It

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depends on the business. So if you've got a business

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where there's just you, it's a quick fix because

00:19:21.029 --> 00:19:23.079
you know, you just got to add to your list. When

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you're on your way, send them a message or you're

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half an hour late, you send them a message an

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hour beforehand, so they know. Easy fix. If you've

00:19:29.619 --> 00:19:34.779
got 30 employees, it's still the same fix, but

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there's the culture, there's the people aspect

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that might take a little bit longer to get going.

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You've got to get people on board, and depending

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on your business, if you've got a great culture,

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it'll literally, hey guys, we're doing this,

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and they'll probably go, that sounds fantastic.

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Let's do it. If you've got a terrible culture

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where no one wants to get on board, that's going

00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:51.849
to be hard work, right? you've got other problems

00:19:51.849 --> 00:19:57.230
you need to fix too though. Yep. Yep. So if in

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terms of being able to step away from business,

00:19:59.690 --> 00:20:02.150
take that holiday, you're going to have to tell

00:20:02.150 --> 00:20:05.990
or introduce that model to the rest of your employees,

00:20:06.690 --> 00:20:10.470
I assume. Yeah. Well, if it's brand new, yeah,

00:20:10.950 --> 00:20:12.890
but they'll need to get up to speed with what

00:20:12.890 --> 00:20:15.710
they're doing. It is better to look at it sort

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of like a machine. So In a factory, you have

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machines that are custom -made to build a car.

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There's a whole production line. There's the

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panels getting made. There's panels getting picked

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up and put on. And then people are doing various

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things at various points. They're just doing

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that one job. It's very efficient. It's been

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fine -tuned with all the different processes.

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The cars end up. The engine goes in. The engine's

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been assembled on a different line. Then it meets

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up with the car. And then the whole thing goes

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and gets painted. And the engine goes in. then

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it gets tested like there's all these different

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aspects so that's one machine fundamentally and

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people control that machine somewhat but really

00:20:55.470 --> 00:20:59.029
it's just a machine yeah so the the concept is

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with your business you're trying to build that

00:21:00.730 --> 00:21:05.829
machine with people with automation with bits

00:21:05.829 --> 00:21:08.529
and pieces so then you have the confidence going

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okay well if i just push this button and then

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pushing this button might mean i get this client

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the client's going to my machine and I know exactly

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what's going to happen at all points most of

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the time and it's going to be good. That's a

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business that you can go, oh, I'll go on holiday

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for three weeks because you know it's going to

00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:30.240
work, right? It's getting the business to that

00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:32.220
point. There's a lot of things involved on that

00:21:32.220 --> 00:21:34.960
stage, but fundamentally it's been aware of what

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you do and looking at each process and who can

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do it, how's it done? What? are the impacts on

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the employees because you're talking about the

00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:51.750
machine. If you will. The machine. The machine.

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Poor people, poor employees. Everyone has their

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own specific task. I mean, if you map that out

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and the model looks really good and you decide

00:22:03.190 --> 00:22:05.950
that all of your processes work really well,

00:22:06.150 --> 00:22:08.349
all you need to do is take a break. There's not

00:22:08.349 --> 00:22:10.910
really much of an impact on your employees. But

00:22:10.910 --> 00:22:14.349
if you are in a position, listening to this and

00:22:14.349 --> 00:22:17.740
going, my business is not. at that point at all

00:22:17.740 --> 00:22:21.619
if I leave it's going to crumble. What change

00:22:21.619 --> 00:22:25.200
or developing that model and implementing it

00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:27.480
is that going to have on the employees? Yeah

00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:30.359
okay so we'll come back to the employees but

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I think if you're at the level where it's pretty

00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:36.180
scary to deal with I talked to someone a couple

00:22:36.180 --> 00:22:38.440
of weeks ago. He'd been in business for two weeks

00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:39.940
and he's got five employees and then he's going

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to go work away on something completely different

00:22:41.500 --> 00:22:45.319
for two weeks. Do you think he set that business

00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:48.720
up to work without him? I would hope so. Yeah,

00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:51.099
you'd hope so, but he's pretty confident. He's

00:22:51.099 --> 00:22:55.359
going away to work for two weeks. So people think

00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:59.119
it's not possible, but it is. And a lot of people

00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:02.339
say, If I make it so I don't need to be there

00:23:02.339 --> 00:23:03.799
Well, my employees would just do it themselves

00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:05.460
or they'll slack off while I do this or the clients

00:23:05.460 --> 00:23:07.440
won't be looked after but that's not true because

00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:10.180
Every small business is there's a huge business

00:23:10.180 --> 00:23:12.059
with thousands employees doing a heaps better

00:23:12.059 --> 00:23:15.519
job with people with less experience charging

00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:19.599
more with happier clients and Employees aren't

00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:21.259
going out on their own. They're happy doing it

00:23:21.259 --> 00:23:24.680
there. So What happens to the employees when

00:23:24.680 --> 00:23:27.119
you've got a systematized business and well?

00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:30.559
the systems don't necessarily correlate with

00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:33.079
staff happiness because how you treat people

00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:35.980
probably has a factor there and what's the relationship

00:23:35.980 --> 00:23:37.839
with clients and what people like, but there's

00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:41.200
a lot of factors, but I can tell you if you've

00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:42.940
got a business that there are no systems and

00:23:42.940 --> 00:23:44.599
there's a lot of random problems, like chaos

00:23:44.599 --> 00:23:45.940
and everything goes through the owner and the

00:23:45.940 --> 00:23:47.759
owner's busy and no one can get an answer from

00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:52.160
the owner, it's frustrating for the staff. 100

00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:53.980
% of the time. The staff aren't happy. Maybe

00:23:53.980 --> 00:23:55.339
they're trying hard. Maybe they have to work

00:23:55.339 --> 00:23:57.180
harder to deal with it. They've got to put in

00:23:57.180 --> 00:24:00.000
those extra effort. It is harder for the staff

00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:03.480
then. If they can rock up to work and they know

00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:06.640
they do their part well, the next person is going

00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:08.759
to do their part well. Everything's going to

00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:10.839
go well. Are they going to be happy to work?

00:24:11.420 --> 00:24:14.759
You would think so. Yeah, I would be. Yeah. If

00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:16.740
they don't have to rely on the owner to answer

00:24:16.740 --> 00:24:21.079
the phone just to be able to do their job, that's...

00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:22.640
That's a no -brainer. They're going to be happier.

00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:24.339
So it's a better environment for the employees.

00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:27.599
So what does that mean? Happy employees, less

00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:32.259
training, less recruitment, more productivity.

00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:34.259
Yeah. Maybe less productivity depends what you're

00:24:34.259 --> 00:24:37.140
going for, but happier clients, which means a

00:24:37.140 --> 00:24:43.619
better business. Yeah. That makes sense. So it

00:24:43.619 --> 00:24:47.180
sounds really exciting when you think that you

00:24:47.180 --> 00:24:50.720
can boost employee morale. make happier clients,

00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:52.660
get a bit of business. That's what you're into

00:24:52.660 --> 00:24:56.200
yet? Yeah. Well, like have a good business that

00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:58.900
runs itself, you assume. Like for me personally,

00:24:58.900 --> 00:25:01.160
if I had a business like that, it's going to,

00:25:01.220 --> 00:25:03.579
I see dollar signs and I'm like excited by it.

00:25:03.579 --> 00:25:06.799
Love the money. Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, it's

00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:09.200
what motivates you. It's the freedom. It's the

00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:11.339
ability to do what you want when you want. The

00:25:11.339 --> 00:25:14.000
free time. The fact that business owners can

00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:16.380
take holidays and know that they can still pay

00:25:16.380 --> 00:25:18.099
the bills when they come back in January. Oh,

00:25:18.099 --> 00:25:20.299
and also the fact they can go Like they probably

00:25:20.299 --> 00:25:22.559
like doing what the business does. So the fact

00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:24.339
that they can go in and just do the job that

00:25:24.339 --> 00:25:26.640
they like doing rather than dealing with all

00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:29.039
the other stuff. It's not just about holidays.

00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:34.119
Yeah. Yeah. So can any business do this? Can

00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:36.480
they, can any business make a business that runs

00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:39.019
itself? Yeah, I think any business can do anything.

00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:42.059
Can any person do this? Some people just are

00:25:42.059 --> 00:25:46.240
better at other things. An interesting example

00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:48.299
we talked about before really briefly, that guy

00:25:48.299 --> 00:25:50.099
who started a business and two weeks later he

00:25:50.099 --> 00:25:52.259
went away and he had five employees, right? I

00:25:52.259 --> 00:25:53.880
don't know if he's gonna be successful or not,

00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:57.900
but something that was really promising, he was

00:25:57.900 --> 00:26:00.900
talking to us because he was wanting some advice

00:26:00.900 --> 00:26:02.779
about one part of his business he didn't understand.

00:26:04.220 --> 00:26:08.640
So I think that's a much greater indicator of

00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:12.119
success of that person, that he's willing to

00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:13.559
go, oh, I don't actually know about this, I'll

00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:15.150
just... I'm going to pay someone to learn it

00:26:15.150 --> 00:26:16.430
because that's what I need to know. That's the

00:26:16.430 --> 00:26:18.430
next step in my business. I need to sort this

00:26:18.430 --> 00:26:22.089
out, move forward, continue on. So can anyone

00:26:22.089 --> 00:26:25.930
do it? Definitely. Doesn't take a rocket scientist.

00:26:26.049 --> 00:26:27.869
It's just being aware of what you do know and

00:26:27.869 --> 00:26:31.349
what you don't know, which is a bit unrelated.

00:26:31.950 --> 00:26:35.930
But if you do golf and you're good at golf, because

00:26:35.930 --> 00:26:40.049
how much have you practiced? Way too much. Were

00:26:40.049 --> 00:26:42.769
you always really good at golf? I like to think

00:26:42.769 --> 00:26:46.710
so, but no, probably not. So whoever knows, whoever

00:26:46.710 --> 00:26:50.289
coaches the Z first. It wasn't how good you coach

00:26:50.289 --> 00:26:52.509
me. I was just naturally amazing. She couldn't

00:26:52.509 --> 00:26:55.890
hold a club. At 10 years old, I thought I was

00:26:55.890 --> 00:27:00.410
a pro. Oh dear, cute. So it's just been aware

00:27:00.410 --> 00:27:04.839
of that, okay, it's okay to ask for help. I've

00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:07.440
got people problems. Well, what business, who

00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:10.079
do I know that's really good with people that

00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:13.380
doesn't have those problems? Go ask them. Don't

00:27:13.380 --> 00:27:15.019
ask someone with a big business that makes lots

00:27:15.019 --> 00:27:16.660
of money because they might have the same problems

00:27:16.660 --> 00:27:19.380
you've got. They're just bigger. If you look

00:27:19.380 --> 00:27:21.359
somewhere where everyone's always really happy,

00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:23.519
maybe go ask them. Well, you know, that's what

00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:25.099
we're here for. That's what we help people with.

00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:27.720
So just being aware of that's a problem that

00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:29.740
I don't know how to solve and being able to ask

00:27:29.740 --> 00:27:32.400
for help. And if you're able to do that, yes,

00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:35.740
anyone can sort these problems out. So any business

00:27:35.740 --> 00:27:38.420
can make a business run itself. Definitely. If

00:27:38.420 --> 00:27:40.799
you don't, if you have a business that requires

00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:42.740
you to operate it and there's nothing you can

00:27:42.740 --> 00:27:44.400
do about it, you don't have a business, your

00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:50.339
job. Yeah. What issues might someone come across

00:27:50.339 --> 00:27:53.079
when they're trying to do this? So what roadblocks

00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:55.859
might come up in the way if they decide today

00:27:55.859 --> 00:27:57.539
that they want to create a business that runs

00:27:57.539 --> 00:28:00.880
itself, what issues will come up? There's lots

00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:02.900
of different issues, but the biggest one is just

00:28:02.900 --> 00:28:06.269
if something doesn't work. don't give up. And

00:28:06.269 --> 00:28:08.190
just going back to the sport of golf, right?

00:28:08.369 --> 00:28:12.529
So you have one bad shot. Do you give up? I try

00:28:12.529 --> 00:28:16.549
not to. No. No, the answer is no. You don't give

00:28:16.549 --> 00:28:17.829
up. You might go, oh gee, I need to practice

00:28:17.829 --> 00:28:21.710
that more. Or that was the 100 times that I don't

00:28:21.710 --> 00:28:24.470
hit that well. If you play a musical instrument,

00:28:25.170 --> 00:28:27.029
you rehearse, you rehearse, you rehearse. You

00:28:27.029 --> 00:28:29.009
do that little part of the song. You know, the

00:28:29.009 --> 00:28:32.099
song goes. The tune goes for three minutes and

00:28:32.099 --> 00:28:33.900
there's one part that goes for two seconds. You

00:28:33.900 --> 00:28:35.440
can't now. You just do that same two seconds

00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:37.920
again and again and again. So what the biggest

00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:39.839
problem people have, they go, oh, I tried to

00:28:39.839 --> 00:28:41.700
systematize this. I tried to train people. I

00:28:41.700 --> 00:28:44.720
tried to offload it, but people muck it up. And

00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:46.839
when you quiz them, people mocked it up three

00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:48.619
times. People mocked it up five times. People

00:28:48.619 --> 00:28:50.859
mocked up 20 times. Okay. They've mucked it up

00:28:50.859 --> 00:28:52.740
20 times. It's the exact same problem every time.

00:28:53.220 --> 00:28:55.259
Maybe change the way they're doing it. Yeah.

00:28:55.819 --> 00:28:57.539
Cause I don't think you're doing exactly the

00:28:57.539 --> 00:29:00.430
same thing and being successful. You're probably

00:29:00.430 --> 00:29:01.950
doing something different. If they've mucked

00:29:01.950 --> 00:29:04.930
it up three times and you've given up, that's

00:29:04.930 --> 00:29:06.930
ridiculous. I don't need to tell you anything

00:29:06.930 --> 00:29:09.450
there. Give the poor person a break. But the

00:29:09.450 --> 00:29:11.430
point is, if you try to systematize something

00:29:11.430 --> 00:29:13.329
or you've tried to do something, you try to launch

00:29:13.329 --> 00:29:15.170
a service or anything in your business and it

00:29:15.170 --> 00:29:18.130
doesn't work, we'll try it a different way. Yeah.

00:29:18.589 --> 00:29:20.750
It's not hard. It doesn't work. Try it a different

00:29:20.750 --> 00:29:24.309
way. Can't figure it out? Ask someone. That's

00:29:24.309 --> 00:29:26.829
what advisors are for. Do you know anything about

00:29:26.829 --> 00:29:29.950
this? Yes. What's worked before? Try this, this,

00:29:30.009 --> 00:29:31.490
this, this. I reckon this one's the first one

00:29:31.490 --> 00:29:33.470
to try. Maybe that first one doesn't work. Maybe

00:29:33.470 --> 00:29:35.269
the second one does. Maybe a combination of the

00:29:35.269 --> 00:29:37.869
two works. Who knows? But it's just trying to

00:29:37.869 --> 00:29:39.730
problem solve it till it works. And then bang,

00:29:39.789 --> 00:29:41.390
that's your system. That's your procedure. That's

00:29:41.390 --> 00:29:43.990
the training. And most of the time, you back

00:29:43.990 --> 00:29:46.670
it to work. And voila, you get your holiday,

00:29:46.750 --> 00:29:49.549
your money, your whatever you want out of it.

00:29:50.289 --> 00:29:53.029
So problems, other problems people have, you

00:29:53.029 --> 00:29:55.730
know, aren't really common, but they're there

00:29:55.730 --> 00:29:58.809
and they're not really related. So a person leaves.

00:29:59.470 --> 00:30:02.130
Well, if your business is reliant on one person

00:30:02.130 --> 00:30:05.069
and it's not you, well, it's still the same thing.

00:30:05.130 --> 00:30:07.150
It's pretty risky. So what's that role? What's

00:30:07.150 --> 00:30:09.349
the training? Who comes in? How can someone come

00:30:09.349 --> 00:30:11.329
in? Can you hire a temp employee with some skills

00:30:11.329 --> 00:30:13.049
and they can follow this, this, this and do the

00:30:13.049 --> 00:30:17.059
job? If you have every role needs 100 % training,

00:30:17.259 --> 00:30:20.160
100 % skill, 100 % expertise, 100 % perfection

00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:22.900
every day, you probably haven't got any margin

00:30:22.900 --> 00:30:26.579
for error. So think of like engines and cars,

00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:28.539
they're designed to run at a certain thing for

00:30:28.539 --> 00:30:30.660
a certain amount of time, but that's not 100

00:30:30.660 --> 00:30:32.400
% capacity all the time. You don't just rev it

00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:34.559
out when you're driving around town, it blows

00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:37.480
up. So if you expect everyone in your business

00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:40.400
to work at 120 % all the time, just for your

00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:43.299
business to break even, you probably need to

00:30:43.299 --> 00:30:44.920
wind it back a bit and look at your model. How

00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:48.420
can we make it so 70 % if we're running a 70

00:30:48.420 --> 00:30:50.079
% Cassie, we've got a good business, we're getting

00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:52.259
great results. If someone is not there, we can

00:30:52.259 --> 00:30:54.519
pull someone in, we can use someone from a different

00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:58.960
department, just have a bit of a buffer. Yeah.

00:31:01.220 --> 00:31:06.059
There's a lot in that, but essentially, if you

00:31:06.059 --> 00:31:09.500
could put it into one sentence, how to make a

00:31:09.500 --> 00:31:12.579
business run itself, what would you say? Businesses

00:31:12.579 --> 00:31:16.279
like Lego. Much better to buy it in the box with

00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:19.019
the plans and the pieces in place. That's so

00:31:19.019 --> 00:31:24.099
true. That's a good way to look at it. So we're

00:31:24.099 --> 00:31:28.500
going to wrap it up there. If you want to find

00:31:28.500 --> 00:31:31.339
out some more, ask some questions, visit our

00:31:31.339 --> 00:31:35.400
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00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:38.640
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00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.579
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00:31:41.579 --> 00:31:44.460
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00:31:44.460 --> 00:31:47.480
into anything further, just shoot us a message

00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:51.079
and we'd be more than happy to do that. Next

00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:54.720
episode, we're going to be talking about burnout

00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:57.779
and how to avoid burnout as a business owner.

00:31:58.099 --> 00:31:59.200
We're just talking about engines and then we're

00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.359
talking about burnouts. Look at that. Look at

00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:05.539
the theme happening. But essentially, it's such

00:32:05.539 --> 00:32:09.599
an important topic. Like we said before, we're

00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:11.720
going through the Christmas period and there's

00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:13.720
going to be so many people that are so tired

00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:15.859
and worn out from the year, especially with COVID

00:32:15.859 --> 00:32:18.460
happening and all of the changes people have

00:32:18.460 --> 00:32:21.759
to make with their business. So finding out just

00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:24.980
a few simple tasks that they can do to avoid

00:32:24.980 --> 00:32:28.690
that might. and save their business, for example.

00:32:29.450 --> 00:32:30.930
Well, if we can just make your life a little

00:32:30.930 --> 00:32:32.829
bit easier, give you a few things, you know,

00:32:32.890 --> 00:32:35.670
take one, leave one. It's a pretty big topic

00:32:35.670 --> 00:32:39.769
because we all work pretty hard and feeling better

00:32:39.769 --> 00:32:42.430
makes a big difference. So it's a pretty big

00:32:42.430 --> 00:32:44.730
topic. We can all relate to it. Yeah, exactly.

00:32:45.549 --> 00:32:48.789
So we'll leave it there. Don't forget to subscribe

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