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www .businessabundance .online. Hello. Hi. Whoa.

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Whoa, cut off your intro. Here we go. That's

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going to be one of those ones. Okay. Yellow one's

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up. Welcome back to the Business Abundance podcast.

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I'm Z and I'm here with Rowan and Ian. Totally

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mess with your flow there. I know. She just went

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straight back into it. Yeah. See? Skill. Chill.

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Adaptility. Must be getting old of this. Adaptability.

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Oh, English. That's a big word. Anywho, today

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we're going to be chatting about trying to be

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everyone. No, everything for everyone. I think.

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No. The topic today is thinking about what you

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do in business. Yeah, that's what I heard. Yeah.

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That is what I said. Yeah. Before the episode

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started. Now you've pivoted. Now we're being

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everything to everyone. Is that not the same?

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I don't know if it is. We thought about what

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we're going to do and we're going to do it. Yeah.

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So we're going to stick with that. Yeah. Oh my

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gosh. I see what you guys are doing here. That's

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cool. I don't see what we're doing at all. No,

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we do. Oh, cool. Excellent. I'll just be the

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dumb guy in the corner as usual. That's good

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from you. The number one thing we see is people

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are doing stuff, they're working hard, but they're

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not thinking about what they should be doing.

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Ain't that the truth? No one thinks about what

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they should be doing. What should they be doing?

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Whatever they want to be doing. Oh, the right

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things. Oh, then I wouldn't be working at all.

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For their business. The right things. Ah, whatever

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they want to be doing. Well Ian, you have a business.

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Yes. And you do websites. Yes, sometimes. Mostly

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logos and branding. Well then why do you do websites?

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Because it's a natural extension. What about

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social media? Don't even get me started. I'm

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not even allowed to talk about it. Rowan put

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a gag on me. That's so Ruthless. Yeah, that was

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Ruthless from you. So we think about like in

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business, the number one thing people do, they

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do what they do and they're hard at work, they

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get up and they're like, I've got this and this

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and this to do and they go do all those things

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and they generally like doing the things that

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are easier for them to do or the things that

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are more painful. The fun stuff. Perching them

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at the time so they go deal with that and I'll

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give you an example with my to -do list is always

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quite extensive and there's things that don't

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get done very often. but generally the things

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that have a large impact or consequence get done

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and that that's a fluid thing but I do make sure

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every day I think about what's what is the most

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important thing today even though I said last

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week I'll get that done by Wednesday and then

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that's got closer it's like well is that still

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the most important thing because we only have

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so many hours we only have so much time and it's

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not just us with our time but it's about our

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business what's going to give us the biggest

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impact so for most business owners they're busy

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doing things but they're not at any time thinking

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about what they should be doing. What other people

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should be doing. Well, they looked at it two

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years ago and they never revisited it. And that's

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where we're on the grind, we're running on the

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hamster wheel, and we might be making money,

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we might not, but we're just working. That's

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it. I have to bring up social media But that's

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the I should I be doing tick -tock because everyone

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else is doing tick -tock debacle or Everyone's

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on Instagram. Why am I on Instagram? Oh, they're

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on social media. Why am I on social media? Those

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sort of things that do I need a website where

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everyone else does so I need a website those

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sort of Issues I guess I guess the easy easy

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way to triage any of that is What's your intention

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and what are your expected outcomes? so it's

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It's used a lot in business and and it's a trend

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now in the educational realm as well that here

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are our learning intentions So what are our intentions

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for starting a social media page, and then what

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are the outcomes I? I desire to achieve from

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having a social media page. What's the intention

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of having a website? Or even go full macro, what's

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the intention of even having a business? And

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what outcomes do I want from this business? And

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then funnel it down into little niches of opportunities.

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But then you look at Rowan's which is sort of

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on the not so... big picture but important day

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-to -day tasks is me responding to that sales

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inquiry actually going to make a difference today

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or can it be done later? Yeah, do we take the

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loss? What's the impact we're looking for? It's

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not just our time. It's the activities that we're

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doing that day. It's the which processes do we

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have its what prices are we setting or products?

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We're offering we had a client a few weeks back

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and we went through pricing We're looking at

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different jobs and they price them all the same

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way and we we have a little way to do it Which

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which is pretty cool and you can see what's actually

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the most profitable which is completely different

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my favorite and This guy's gone. Oh, I've known

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that for six months. I should be doing more of

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that It's like we're the mayor's I hate these

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other ones. We're not for it. It's like six months

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a banging his head against the wall dealing with

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his stuff and he could have spent two days just

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not done anything else taking the pain and dealt

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with it and changed it and I think that's where

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most people probably you can relate it doesn't

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have to be on those topics but you think about

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it man I spent a little bit of the time thinking

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about what's the right thing to do and then I

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just changed what I did to be the right thing

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again like when you start a business you you're

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hustling you're doing what you need to do you're

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getting the work in you're making money and then

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it grows and then you stop making money People

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often say that, and it's because you stop thinking

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about what's the right thing to do. People are

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doing stuff, but when you start, you are doing

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the right thing to do because you know what you

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need to do that day. And then as it gets bigger

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and as it gets more complex, people lose that

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ability to go, does that actually make sense?

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How do they then identify? So let's say you've

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been in business for 24 months, two years, and

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you've got through the grind, you've got a steady

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flow of customers, and you're busy. you're finding

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yourself 65, 70 hours a week, maybe more. How

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do you then triage your to -do list? Well, if

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you're looking at your list, what's having the

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biggest value? So it might be a tangible, like

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mean money or something happening, or it might

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be an intangible as someone feels, or a result

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with a person for example, and you prioritise

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what are the big hitters here that I should be

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spending my time on? And what are the things

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on there that are important but don't have too

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much consequence or I need to change resources

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to someone else to be learning to do those. And

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I think there's never really a case where someone

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else can't do something and there's very few

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things that happen in business that are going

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to be critical as far as this destruction if

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it goes wrong. And if you're dealing with a doctor,

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it takes three months to go see a specialist.

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and we expect that. You want to talk to your

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lawyer, that's two weeks free. You get an appointment.

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They didn't even read what they were going to

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do. They're going to read in front of you. Then

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we look at our business and we're like, if we

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didn't get something done in two hours, that

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customer's going to be upset. That's the small

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business mindset. So the worst thing that can

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happen is we didn't respond to that inquiry.

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Requirements are really important. Oh, they never

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got back to me. Bad word of mouth. But if something

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else was going to get you $100 ,000 worth of

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work or you stopped the job going bad, that was

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going to cost you five grand. what was more important.

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I think having the ability just each day look

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at that and go what's important, what's not,

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which ones I'm going to do first. So we're kind

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of flipping it to the lesser of evils I guess.

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Yeah. So instead of thinking about what's the

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best, what's the worst case scenario on my list,

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all right I better deal with that one. Yeah well

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it could be the worst case scenario. It could

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be the best. It doesn't actually matter that

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much. That would be terrible, that happens, but

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this one's better, so you know let's do that.

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But you can't do everything every day. So, it's

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a difficult one because a lot of people go into

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business and they want to make everyone happy.

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I want all my customers to be happy. Everyone

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wants that. Yeah, the only way you're gonna do

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that is selling ice cream. We can't, we can't.

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There's lactose -free people. Yeah, well, there's

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lactose -free ice cream. And there's people who

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don't like ice cream. Yeah, I know, weirdo, he's

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my son. Crazy. Well, it's mint, that's it. But

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anyway, toothpaste. Yeah, freeze your toothpaste,

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put it in a cone. Well, it's a market. Everyone's

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favorite topic is themself, is where I was headed

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with that. And so you're going to have a disappointed

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customer, no matter what you do, eventually.

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So again, why, why burn yourself out? It sounds

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terrible, but here's a customer who's going to

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spend a hundred bucks a year, once in their life.

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Or a hundred thousand. Or a hundred thousand.

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Here's a customer here. Yep. Yep. And then here's

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a lifelong customer. over here who has consistently,

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they've learned how you communicate, you've had

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them for five years and they're going to forgive

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you a mistake here or there. Who's getting your

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attention? Who's getting your attention? And

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sometimes you've got to be ruthless. People don't

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think about that and they'll go, this new client,

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we need to get this new client in. So you said

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in another episode, like, we have a car, I could

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do work with that person in the future. They're

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not paying me at the moment. It could be one

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in the future. And they never focus back on that

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old client. It's like, if you've got a client

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that, you know, rings me. They get my full attention

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regardless of what's going on. I might not be

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able to help them straight away. I might then

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say, Hey, it's going to be a couple of days,

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but you get my attention. And if there's someone

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new coming in, they're not getting the attention.

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Like we could get something out of it, but it's

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what's, what's the priority. That's, that's one

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section with, with customers, but it's, it's

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what services are we offering? Okay. This service

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is something that everyone in our industry offers

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or a product, but it fundamentally doesn't make

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sense. We don't make money. We're not good at

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it. It's annoying. It annoys everyone. Should

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we bother or should we be with the one business

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that doesn't do it? This so basically if you

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want like the You want to see an example of it?

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Oh, yeah random, but Gordon Ramsay so he visits

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Restaurants, it's you know goes and visits the

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restaurants. I'm sure people have all seen these

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clips never heard of it Ramsey's kitchen nightmares

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So good anyway, so they go why am I started saying

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anyway? Too much time on TikTok. I don't have

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it. How? He's gone into this restaurant and he's

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looking at the menu and it's like 10 pages and

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it's got just recipe, item after item after item.

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Every restaurant he goes to. Yeah, but it's like

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got so many different cuisines and then they're

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also trying to mix cuisines and they're like,

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oh, we're going to have an Asian nachos or I

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don't know if that's possible it just came in

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my head. You can actually. Probably. But anyway

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but they they went in going we're going to be

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a steakhouse and now they've got this and this

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and this and all of a sudden they're doing this

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cuisine and this cuisine and this cuisine. Means

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they're rubbish at all of them basically. Part

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of the cost control right they've got more wastage.

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And then the chefs. Because they're not doing

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as many steaks. Yeah the chefs are just completely

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overwhelmed because they're trying to cook. 100

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different things that they're not used to. Yeah,

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and so that suffers and then the quality suffers

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and then the waiters and waitresses can't remember

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essentially what it is that's happening unless

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they're writing it down furiously instead of

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being like, oh, it's one of our 10 items that

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we excel at. They can't go in confidently because

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they've not tried the food and it all just crumbles

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and then the person sits there and like, oh,

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you don't actually have chicken wings. We'd better

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get chicken wings in because that's the market.

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And so they chuck that on the menu. It's just

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an absolute shambles. And that is the best representation

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of what it's like when you see a business who's

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like, oh, well, we could do that. So we're going

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to do that because someone asked for it. So we

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should be doing it because obviously there's

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a market for it. And now you've diluted your

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service offering. People are creatures of habit.

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So there's a majority of people that do whatever

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else does. and we feel good about that and safe

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about that. So providing those services sometimes

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are dealing with those people, but if you didn't

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give them that option, then it's not going to

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be an issue whatsoever. So I think that's one

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part of it. It's like what services do we offer,

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but what processes do we follow? So, you know,

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if we're dealing with a customer and we have

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to give them this paperwork, this paperwork,

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we've got to do this, we've got to do a handover

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afterwards, whatever that is, you know, are some

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of those things required or some of those things

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just kind of nice? Like, what are the big hitters

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there on the value chain that make any impact?

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What if you just did those and nothing else?

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Like, should we be doing the rest? Like, yeah,

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we could, but does it really matter? Like, that's

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the thing. Does it really matter? No. Get rid

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of it. Don't do the broccoli. Don't do the social

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media management. Yeah, a lot of people spend

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a lot of time on Facebook. They learn how to

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do it. They get the photos. Does it really matter?

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Or do you just need a few little jobs on there?

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People look at you and go, oh, they look pretty

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good. Like, every now and then. We found that

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focusing just on the branding side of things

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instead of, yes we'll still do websites here

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and there but not making that the core offering.

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The core offering is here's your pretty pictures

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and this will tell the whole world who you are

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and that's what we're good at. As soon as we

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did that life got amazing. Not just the fact

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that there was work but the fact that I enjoyed

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the work. And we weren't going, oh crap, now

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I've got to learn how to put this piece of code

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in here and this piece of code in here and now

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they want to do social media over here and they

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want to do this as well and oh yeah, we can probably

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do that as well, we'll charge you this, we'll

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do that, we'll add it on. It's all custom and

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different for everyone. Yeah. And that's fine

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if that's the aim, but if it's not. So you know,

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is this creating value for the business? Is this

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going to grow the business? Is it going to make

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someone's life better? If it's not really hitting

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those things, then there's no point. And I know

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people that have dealt with me personally will

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know that I don't care about everything. I'm

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very easy going with a lot of stuff. It doesn't

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really matter, it doesn't really matter. Most

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of the time, I'm super pedantic at the same time

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about some things that don't seem that important,

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but about 20 % of things that make 80 % of the

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difference. And you can get 80 % of things completely

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wrong, not bother with it, full stop. Any numbers?

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20, it's good. And so whether we're talking about

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pricing, we're talking numbers, we're talking

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about process of products, or people, or staff.

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So even how do you treat your staff? Sometimes

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you've got to think about it and look at it and

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go, well... Who's actually dominating and who's

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sort of not? Like, do I want to keep doing the

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not or do we want more dominators? We don't think

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about that. You know, we just go, well, that's

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our team. That's how it is. People will say they

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do, that frustrates them. But they don't get

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frustrated about it. They think about it that

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way. They want to think about what if I change

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it? What does that actually mean? OK, well, if

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I got rid of that person, oh, we're going to

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have to always work. OK, well, who would do that

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work? Well, we could probably get through it

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by doing this person and this person thing. Okay,

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well that will annoy them. Okay, we need another

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person coming in. We can get another person coming

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in. It's gonna take six months to train them.

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So, okay, well those three people. What if I

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talk to them? Hey, would you mind doing a bit

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of extra work for three months? Why? I've just

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got an opportunity coming up. Oh, yeah, I could

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probably suck it up for a couple of months. No

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worries. Okay, well we could get rid of them.

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We could replace them. We could train them. And

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then we get here. No one thinks about it in that

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detail. They just go, oh, it's so annoying. It's

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hard to find people. Oh. get someone in but they

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would have to train them. That's the level people

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think. So that was a very good insight into Rowan's

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brain just then. You've got to have seen that

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before. Oh yes, but maybe people haven't heard

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that before. I'm confused. No, just the depths

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of thinking that, again, you've said most people,

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ah, it's going to be too hard. Whereas you talk

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to Rowan and he goes, yeah, it is going to be

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hard, but... It's gonna be worth it if you do

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it this how do we get this? I was talking to

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someone this morning here, and it's like I don't

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mind having a problem Someone give me a problem

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even if I'm busy. I've got the worst stuff happening

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in the world Because it means I can put some

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time. I know I can allocate and we can get better

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I don't mind everyone being upset if we're gonna

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be better. I don't mind working harder if it's

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gonna get better I don't want to work hard Doing

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something because I have to yep And I don't think

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there's anyone in the world that would disagree

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with that. It's probably never been explained

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to them like that. Well, yeah. I don't know why

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the thinking is, but it's that what we're talking

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about here, we've got to think, are we doing

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the right thing? What makes sense? And we lose

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that when we're there day to day. Once you've

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rat -raced it up, you... It's easy for me because

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I consult the businesses. So I see them once

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a month or once every six months or whatever,

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once a week, whatever it is. I'm not there day

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to day. I don't see their struggle. It's, oh,

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I frustrated the tires more. I don't see any

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of that. Oh, you were going to do this a couple

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of months ago because it made sense. You haven't

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done it yet. Like, what are you doing? Oh, yeah,

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you're right. Oh, we couldn't do it because of

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this. Oh, no, you probably... No, I'll go do

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that tomorrow. It's a pretty valuable perspective

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to be able to have as well, which is the value

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that business abundance brings, I think, as an

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external entity, watching business abundance

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work and being able to walk into a business that

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is maybe very emotionally bankrupt. Perhaps in

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regards to worn down not emotionally bankrupt

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and as in treating clients like crap Just worn

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down had enough and then to have someone like

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yourself or Z or anyone from business money Yeah,

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it really is. Yeah, and then just taking that

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The blinkers of this is in front of me and I'm

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really stressed and oh my god And then having

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some other person go, you know, you'd be less

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stressed if you just did this this and this And

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they would know that's the answer, but they can't

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join the dots or they don't have the faith to

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emotionally attach to the outcomes. But there's

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also things like in my house, things get moved

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and I have no idea. Yep. And then, you know,

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Claire will be like... Did you see what I moved?

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See, I noticed all that stuff. It's obvious.

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And I have no idea. That's the difference. Complete

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no idea. But then certain thing happens in the

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house. Oh no, straight away. She's like, how

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does your brain work? Like, a room can change

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colour and you're like, dunno. You can walk past

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something that's been on the floor, you know,

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however many times, dunno. Didn't see it. The

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Kettle's facing the window instead of the lounge

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room. The Kettle's moved to somewhere that's

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slightly in the way of something else. Boom,

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straight onto it. It's like a like for like.

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It's just a little movement. If I don't see it

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as consequential, I don't know where it goes.

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Yep. But that's training. So I continually look

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for, okay, we're new baby at the moment. this

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one's pretty straightforward because we've already

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deep dived last time but the first time is this

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bottle is taking an hour and a half to feed this

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kit. Special needs. Those babies like an hour

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and a half for a bottle is ridiculous. Everything

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I could was how can we get this faster? Like

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this is ridiculous. I could get up here for three

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hours, it takes an hour and a half to feed, you've

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got an hour and a half to clean up and blah blah

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blah and then it's not even asleep anyway so

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then you've got it just doesn't make sense. So

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we bought every single kind of bottle. We tried

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every bottle. which is a lot of waste of time

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and a lot of effort, right? But then we got it,

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and we got down to 50 minutes, which is still

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long, but it's been a lot better than an hour

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and a half. And then we had burps because we

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had a vent and we had all this, you know, boom,

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and we figured it out. Sorry, the baby had a

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vent? No, the bottle. Details don't matter. The

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point was, we had this issue. Most people would

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be like, they'd fight and they'd go, I've just

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got to get through it. They'd complain to their

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friends and friends would emphasize and I just

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missed the part of my brain for empathizing.

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I could do it. But the default is like, how do

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we fix it so I don't have to listen to this anymore?

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If we fix it, everyone's happy. That's what I

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see. It's not that I don't care. It's like, we're

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all happy if I fix it. And everyone else is going,

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can we just complain about it? We're talking

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about thinking about doing the right thing. You're

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in your business every day, going back to the

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example of wall color changes, I don't notice,

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but if the kettle moves to next to the microwave

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and it's annoying, like I'll notice within a

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second, you see everything in your business with

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your eyes and see it every day, you're not picking

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them up. It's not just that you have blinkers

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on or you're stressed, you just don't notice,

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you don't see it. It's normal. If you went away

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for a month, you came back, you're like, what

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were we doing? But you don't have that chance

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to go away. I can confidently say that that's

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the first time I've heard a vent in a baby's

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bottle as a metaphor for fixing everything in

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your business. Outstanding. But... So just thinking

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about that... It's made my day. The would -be

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that if we had to feed every three hours and

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we had to do that twice feeding and all that,

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there was a lot of effort to go through to try

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to fix it when we're already under a bit of pressure.

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Yeah. But sometimes you've got to work hard.

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You do it, but you're doing the right thing.

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and that's the thing you don't have that focus

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to do the right thing but you know in their business

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sometimes we don't have the right model we don't

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have the right process so you know the receptionist

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can't do their job and they're frustrated and

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you know they're always getting told off because

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there's mistakes but have you got the right process

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like how can we change the process you know and

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then keep everyone happy oh no we can't do that

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because we're doing this and this okay but what

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if we could do that and we could do that we do

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that that way and then does it work oh i don't

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think so oh it does work let's give it a go see

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what happens i'll work it's very cool you know

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yeah it's like the You know that what you're

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doing is right. Don't just scrap it because it's

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not working exactly the way. So for example,

00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:18.920
you've got your service. You like it. It's what

00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:21.759
your business needs. Don't just scrap it and

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try something else completely because you think

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that's going to be better when it's just like

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completely pivoting your business. Just watching

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Rowan talk then made me think of passion. in

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a perfectly platonic way. We're going to talk

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about passion. You listen to Rowan talk about

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and watch, for those that don't get to see this

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in person, you watch Rowan talk about processes

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and improving businesses and he gets a spark.

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And I bet when you started your business, whoever's

00:22:56.789 --> 00:22:58.589
listening, when you started your business, that's

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what the reason you started your business was

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there was a spark. and it was something that

00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:05.700
you couldn't shut up about. You explained it

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in ways that made people go, geez, I want to

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be a part of that. And somewhere along the lines,

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and I see this every single day when talking

00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:18.740
to business owners, you lost that spark because

00:23:18.740 --> 00:23:21.980
the grind got you. You had to do this, you had

00:23:21.980 --> 00:23:23.900
to do that, you had to do this instead of, I

00:23:23.900 --> 00:23:26.559
want to change the world with this fuzzy widget

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that I've created. All of a sudden, You're now,

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I have to do this, otherwise I don't get to keep

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putting this fuzzy widget out into the world.

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But you don't have to do it. You can do whatever

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you want. Yeah. Think about it. It's very exciting.

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Yeah, you can always, the business is not going

00:23:44.140 --> 00:23:45.740
well, and yeah, you lose some money, but you

00:23:45.740 --> 00:23:47.140
can always shut it down and do something else.

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Yep. Some of the most successful clients lost

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50, 60 employee businesses and houses and things,

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and then they, you know, retired very successfully.

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Yep. So, you know, there's always, can we? Yeah,

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we can do that. You've got a different opportunity.

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But it's, it's an interesting thing because I

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never used to think about it that way. It was

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like, well, if I lose my business, my metaphorical

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business, then it sucks. Like I've failed. I

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can't do it again. I'm going to lose all my money.

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All those sort of things. Well, we back up one

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job. It's the same thing. It's just, yeah, I'm

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not going to have any clients left. I'm done

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for. I'm going to be labeled a failure. But when

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you do think about it, let's just say business,

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you've decided it's not necessarily working and

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you're like, well, this is taking way too much

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effort and I could be doing something else. You

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just kind of remove the emotion attachment behind

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it. Yes, obviously you're attached to the idea,

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which is why we always talk about high purpose

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instead of what you actually do. Yeah. It means

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you can pivot eventually, but Yeah, you're removing

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the emotion behind it and going, nah, this is

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a waste of time. I'm going to do something else.

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And it's, well, I always think at least you tried

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and you're going to do something else. If you

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think about any sport, you know, the best sports

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people fail and then, you know, talked about

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for half a week and then two years later, no

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one remembers that. I just remember how good

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they were when they succeeded. So people love

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talking about failures, but people remember successes.

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So you, you know, you hit one six and everyone

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goes, wow, that was a big one. You suck 10 times

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and everyone just remember, oh gee, that can

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hit a long ball. You know, like that's the, that's

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the kind of things. But maybe just to help you

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ask the questions and think about what you're

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doing. If you can't do this yourself, you just

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need someone else to think about it for you.

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But a couple of different areas that you might

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look at. It's not all about making money, but

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does this protect us? Okay. process that we're

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doing or this thing that we're doing protecting

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us. So that might be risk, it might be reputation,

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it could be a few different things. Does it make

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us money? A pretty big one on business. Does

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it create us, does it give us any clarity? So

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does it help us make good decisions or does it

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help us see what's going on? So maybe this part

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of the process doesn't make us any money, doesn't

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make us any value for a client but allows us

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to see what's happening in our business to make

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good decisions that could be highly valuable.

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And does this help us help the right clients?

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Okay, so we don't need to help every client.

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Probably there's 20 % of you, the age 20 rule,

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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There's 20 % of

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the clients that cause most of the problems.

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They call the most, they annoy the most, and

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there's probably two or three that everyone hates

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dealing with. If you got rid of them, you'll

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have 80 % less work to do admin -wise. So we're

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not talking about how does this help us look

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after the bad clients. Okay, we need to put this

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in our process so the bad client won't be upset.

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No, don't worry about it if you don't want to

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be upset. What do the good clients want? Our

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best clients, does this help us deliver value

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to them? That's the only bit that matters. I

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think those four questions really cover quite

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a lot. If I'm thinking about something, it's

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not just money, but it's also are we doing the

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right thing for the right people? Are we making

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money? Can we see what's going on? And is it

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safe? That's the factors. Yep. And on that note...

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I don't think there's anything, I think it's

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just take some time to jot that down if you're

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listening and do a bit of self reflection. Go

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have a think about yourself. Go get a mirror,

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have a good eye on yourself. A proper think.

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Alright everyone, we'll chat to you in the next

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episode. See you.
