1 00:00:09,776 --> 00:00:11,578 Because somebody pretty much in 2 00:00:11,578 --> 00:00:16,950 every family is being inhibited in their life by pain. 3 00:00:17,851 --> 00:00:22,288 And so we have an exciting opportunity 4 00:00:22,288 --> 00:00:25,592 for people to get out of that pain. 5 00:00:26,192 --> 00:00:29,696 Non-invasively, we have a number of technologies. 6 00:00:29,696 --> 00:00:33,400 And one of them that we want to talk about today particularly is called Scrambler. 7 00:00:35,068 --> 00:00:36,736 And now America's 8 00:00:36,736 --> 00:00:39,739 Healthcare Advocate Cary Hall. 9 00:00:39,739 --> 00:00:40,473 Hello, America. 10 00:00:40,473 --> 00:00:43,810 Welcome to America's Healthcare Advocate show broadcasting coast to coast 11 00:00:43,810 --> 00:00:47,147 across the USA here on the HIA Radio Network. 12 00:00:47,180 --> 00:00:49,883 You can find out more about us by going to our website. 13 00:00:49,883 --> 00:00:53,853 AmericasHealthcareAdvocate.com in my producers today, Mr. 14 00:00:53,853 --> 00:00:54,721 Dave Thiessen. 15 00:00:54,721 --> 00:00:59,192 He's our HIA Radio Producer and does all of the video work 16 00:00:59,192 --> 00:01:02,362 that you see up there in our 16 podcast channels and that YouTube 17 00:01:02,362 --> 00:01:05,565 channel with now 623,000 views. 18 00:01:05,565 --> 00:01:08,802 We really appreciate all of you out there downloading the show 19 00:01:08,802 --> 00:01:11,805 and listening to it or listening to those podcasts. 20 00:01:11,971 --> 00:01:15,308 And Garner Cowdry, he is our Cumulus producer behind the board here. 21 00:01:15,308 --> 00:01:18,278 That makes all of this sound the way it's supposed to sound. 22 00:01:18,278 --> 00:01:20,346 And we're happy to have them on board today. 23 00:01:20,346 --> 00:01:20,780 All right. 24 00:01:20,780 --> 00:01:25,251 If you are looking for Obamacare or you're looking for Medicare, 25 00:01:25,285 --> 00:01:29,089 your chronologically challenged or you're a 1099 employee, 26 00:01:29,089 --> 00:01:32,892 you might want to think about giving Carolee Steele a call over at RPS 27 00:01:32,992 --> 00:01:36,996 Benefits by Design 877-385-2224. 28 00:01:37,197 --> 00:01:40,800 Once again, if your 1099 employee and you're looking for decent health 29 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,304 insurance health benefits, they're going to cost less than ACA. 30 00:01:44,504 --> 00:01:48,174 Give Carolee a call 877-385- 2224. 31 00:01:48,408 --> 00:01:51,644 And on the group side, there's some great benefits out there that Maria 32 00:01:52,378 --> 00:01:56,349 Ahlers, who is the president of Benefits by Design, be happy to chat with you 33 00:01:56,349 --> 00:01:56,916 about as well. 34 00:01:56,916 --> 00:02:01,154 Once again, that phone number 877-385-2224. 35 00:02:01,354 --> 00:02:04,491 Joining me in studio once again, doctor Arden Andersen. 36 00:02:04,757 --> 00:02:08,661 Doctor you're becoming quite a pro at this our 5th or 6th show we've done now? 37 00:02:08,661 --> 00:02:09,362 It is. 38 00:02:09,362 --> 00:02:12,198 Yeah. So we're happy to have you back in studio with us. 39 00:02:12,198 --> 00:02:16,402 And the CEO of Radiant Pain Relief, Brendon Lundberg. 40 00:02:16,436 --> 00:02:17,370 Welcome to the show, Brendon. 41 00:02:17,370 --> 00:02:18,271 Glad to have you here. 42 00:02:18,271 --> 00:02:21,040 He’s from Colorado just to do the show today. I did, yeah. 43 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,175 We greatly appreciate that. 44 00:02:22,175 --> 00:02:22,575 My pleasure. 45 00:02:22,575 --> 00:02:24,244 You know, we're going to talk about 46 00:02:24,244 --> 00:02:28,114 Brand New Day and their website is BrandNewDayHealth.com. 47 00:02:28,381 --> 00:02:30,383 This clinic has done more to help people 48 00:02:30,383 --> 00:02:33,386 that I've had on this show that are friends of mine, that are people 49 00:02:33,620 --> 00:02:36,856 that I know personally, that have gone to this clinic for care 50 00:02:37,223 --> 00:02:40,593 and the what they're offering the Neuro20 suit, 51 00:02:40,593 --> 00:02:43,997 the Scrambler you're going to hear about today, the red light blue 52 00:02:43,997 --> 00:02:47,000 light treatment, all the different things that they're doing there. 53 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,271 No meds, no surgery, no invasive procedures whatsoever. 54 00:02:51,271 --> 00:02:52,505 It is remarkable. 55 00:02:52,505 --> 00:02:54,107 I've sent multiple people there. 56 00:02:54,107 --> 00:02:56,242 They're friends of mine, colleagues of mine. 57 00:02:56,242 --> 00:02:57,877 I've had people on this broadcast. 58 00:02:57,877 --> 00:03:01,848 So I urge you, if any of these issues we're going to talk about Parkinson's 59 00:03:01,848 --> 00:03:02,315 today. 60 00:03:02,315 --> 00:03:05,418 We're going to talk about pain relief today, neuropathy today. 61 00:03:05,418 --> 00:03:07,587 We're going to have a whole host of issues to cover. 62 00:03:07,587 --> 00:03:10,590 This is a great opportunity for you to listen and learn. 63 00:03:10,590 --> 00:03:14,327 So doctor, let's just start with you and a little bit about Brand New Day 64 00:03:14,327 --> 00:03:15,762 and what's going on now. 65 00:03:15,762 --> 00:03:19,966 You know, every time we do one of these, we've got some new technology 66 00:03:19,966 --> 00:03:23,403 device or, or some new treatment that we're doing. 67 00:03:23,636 --> 00:03:24,938 And, you know, I'm 68 00:03:24,938 --> 00:03:27,941 talking to people who are doing it and they're like, I can't believe this. 69 00:03:28,041 --> 00:03:29,876 It's changed my life. 70 00:03:29,876 --> 00:03:30,710 Take it away, doctor. 71 00:03:30,710 --> 00:03:32,946 Yes, thank you very much, Carrie, for having us. 72 00:03:32,946 --> 00:03:34,914 It certainly is a brand new day. 73 00:03:34,914 --> 00:03:37,517 It's an exciting, brand new day. 74 00:03:37,517 --> 00:03:39,052 That's just not a play on terms. 75 00:03:39,052 --> 00:03:40,620 I mean, it really is. 76 00:03:40,620 --> 00:03:44,157 Pain is one of those things that affects 77 00:03:44,591 --> 00:03:49,829 most people in the world, really, at some point in time in their life. 78 00:03:49,862 --> 00:03:53,132 And unfortunately, it seems to be more 79 00:03:53,132 --> 00:03:56,636 and more of a problem as people get older just because of arthritis. 80 00:03:56,703 --> 00:03:58,805 You say that at age 76. 81 00:03:58,805 --> 00:04:00,073 I want to point that out. Yeah, 82 00:04:01,374 --> 00:04:02,809 but it's, 83 00:04:02,809 --> 00:04:05,778 you know, I mean, it's part of life, really is we have accidents, 84 00:04:05,778 --> 00:04:09,182 we have athletic injuries, we have just osteoarthritis. 85 00:04:09,182 --> 00:04:12,151 We have diabetes, we have all of those things. 86 00:04:12,151 --> 00:04:15,722 And pain, is pretty much a part 87 00:04:15,722 --> 00:04:20,393 of every family's life because somebody pretty much in 88 00:04:20,393 --> 00:04:25,798 every family is being inhibited in their life by pain. 89 00:04:26,633 --> 00:04:31,704 And so we have an exciting opportunity for people 90 00:04:31,704 --> 00:04:36,442 to get out of that pain non-invasively. 91 00:04:36,776 --> 00:04:39,379 We have a number of technologies, and one of them 92 00:04:39,379 --> 00:04:42,282 that we want to talk about today particularly is called Scrambler. 93 00:04:42,282 --> 00:04:46,853 And I'll let Brendon explain a little bit more about that when we get to him. 94 00:04:46,853 --> 00:04:51,157 But Scrambler is one of those things that really reprograms the brain, 95 00:04:51,157 --> 00:04:54,994 because if we're in chronic pain, it's one thing to be in acute pain. 96 00:04:54,994 --> 00:04:59,065 You get in an accident, you break your arm or something of that nature, 97 00:04:59,065 --> 00:05:02,568 it heals and you're out of pain, right? 98 00:05:02,802 --> 00:05:08,074 It's a whole nother thing, though, that you break that arm, it heals. 99 00:05:08,074 --> 00:05:09,842 You go to physical therapy 100 00:05:09,842 --> 00:05:13,980 and you get your range of motion back, but the pain is still there. 101 00:05:13,980 --> 00:05:17,083 And five years later, that pain is still there. 102 00:05:17,083 --> 00:05:19,585 Or maybe it's even worse now. 103 00:05:19,585 --> 00:05:24,290 So that is really negatively affecting a person's life. 104 00:05:24,657 --> 00:05:27,627 And they may have been back to the surgeon. 105 00:05:27,627 --> 00:05:30,463 They may have been to another physical therapist, 106 00:05:30,463 --> 00:05:33,466 they may have had all kinds of filming done on it, 107 00:05:33,733 --> 00:05:38,905 and nothing shows up that invasive technologies 108 00:05:38,905 --> 00:05:42,975 will do anything about, gee, go home, have a nice life. 109 00:05:43,009 --> 00:05:44,711 No. Go home. And here's your. Meds. 110 00:05:44,711 --> 00:05:46,279 All right, here's your video. Leave that out. 111 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:47,313 Absolutely correct. 112 00:05:47,313 --> 00:05:50,416 The solution we get in the medical communities, here's your meds. 113 00:05:50,450 --> 00:05:51,150 Absolutely. 114 00:05:51,150 --> 00:05:51,751 That's correct. 115 00:05:51,751 --> 00:05:55,955 And, well, here's the latest, greatest med on top of the already 2 or 3. 116 00:05:55,955 --> 00:05:57,056 The trouble 117 00:05:57,056 --> 00:06:00,660 and the problem is, is that that basically makes the patient a zombie. Yep. 118 00:06:01,294 --> 00:06:03,563 And that's not acceptable either 119 00:06:03,563 --> 00:06:07,100 because that even inhibits their quality of life has been further. 120 00:06:07,266 --> 00:06:11,371 So what we found is that that pain 121 00:06:11,704 --> 00:06:16,309 chronically has created a pattern in the brain 122 00:06:16,442 --> 00:06:19,946 to expect that signal every single day, 24 over seven. 123 00:06:20,313 --> 00:06:25,084 And so even if we were to do something 124 00:06:25,351 --> 00:06:29,455 locally in that arm for the pain to go away, 125 00:06:29,922 --> 00:06:35,128 it's been in the brain for so long, the brain thinks it's still there. 126 00:06:35,361 --> 00:06:38,364 And so it still registers as a pain. 127 00:06:38,531 --> 00:06:41,534 Perhaps the best analogy I can give 128 00:06:41,701 --> 00:06:44,704 is people who have lost a limb. 129 00:06:45,138 --> 00:06:47,540 They get what's called phantom pain. 130 00:06:47,540 --> 00:06:49,709 Well, the limbs not there anymore. 131 00:06:49,709 --> 00:06:53,946 How can you possibly have pain in the hand and the hand's not even there. 132 00:06:53,980 --> 00:06:55,748 A lot of veterans go through, correct? 133 00:06:55,748 --> 00:06:58,084 Yeah. It's because the pain is in the brain, right? 134 00:06:58,084 --> 00:07:02,121 That signal that there is a problem here is in the brain. 135 00:07:02,355 --> 00:07:06,225 What Scrambler does is help to reprogram, 136 00:07:06,225 --> 00:07:10,196 reset the brain to relax. 137 00:07:10,196 --> 00:07:14,200 Basically regarding that pain signal and 138 00:07:15,668 --> 00:07:18,871 think or understand, if you will, 139 00:07:18,871 --> 00:07:23,309 that signal is no longer there creating that pain pattern. 140 00:07:23,943 --> 00:07:27,647 And so people that have been in pain chronically, for example, 141 00:07:27,647 --> 00:07:31,350 we had a lady come in five years of chronic hip pain. 142 00:07:31,617 --> 00:07:34,253 It wasn't an issue that required a hip replacement. 143 00:07:34,253 --> 00:07:35,521 She didn't need that. 144 00:07:35,521 --> 00:07:38,291 She'd already been released from her physical therapist. 145 00:07:38,291 --> 00:07:40,026 She's got all kinds of range of motion. 146 00:07:40,026 --> 00:07:41,727 Not a problem there. 147 00:07:41,727 --> 00:07:45,998 But she still has this pain, she says to the point of 8 to 9, 148 00:07:46,532 --> 00:07:48,267 we use a scale of 0 to 10. 149 00:07:48,267 --> 00:07:51,170 Yeah, she's at 8 to 9 every day, which means it 150 00:07:51,170 --> 00:07:54,173 completely occupies her life. 151 00:07:54,173 --> 00:07:56,776 Three weeks of treatment with the Scrambler. 152 00:07:56,776 --> 00:07:58,277 She's a 0 to 3. 153 00:07:58,277 --> 00:08:00,780 Depending upon what activities she does. 154 00:08:00,780 --> 00:08:02,615 She is happy as a lark. 155 00:08:02,615 --> 00:08:03,683 It's amazing. 156 00:08:03,683 --> 00:08:06,619 It's absolutely amazing. And you know what? 157 00:08:06,619 --> 00:08:11,724 What I find even more amazing is that that this is not this is this is not new. 158 00:08:11,724 --> 00:08:14,327 This has been around since 2009. 159 00:08:14,327 --> 00:08:17,997 You have to ask yourself, where's the medical community been this whole time? 160 00:08:18,331 --> 00:08:21,334 And that's why, you know, when we come back in this segment, 161 00:08:21,901 --> 00:08:25,171 we're going to talk to Brendon and we're going to talk about the technology, 162 00:08:25,171 --> 00:08:28,441 what's gone into this and how they're pioneering across the country. 163 00:08:28,608 --> 00:08:31,577 But this is what I'm talking about when I talk about 164 00:08:31,577 --> 00:08:34,614 alternative methods that can change your life. 165 00:08:34,847 --> 00:08:37,817 And they do this at Brand New Day, and they do it every day. 166 00:08:37,817 --> 00:08:40,052 And I've got personal experience there, okay. 167 00:08:40,052 --> 00:08:41,754 I've got friends that I send there. 168 00:08:41,754 --> 00:08:45,324 If you know somebody that's dealing with what Doctor Andersen just talked about, 169 00:08:45,491 --> 00:08:47,126 I don't care where you are in the country. 170 00:08:47,126 --> 00:08:49,328 We have people coming here from all over the country 171 00:08:49,328 --> 00:08:51,230 to go to this clinic, go to their website, 172 00:08:51,230 --> 00:08:55,134 BrandNewDayHealth.com, BrandNewDayHealth.com. 173 00:08:55,368 --> 00:08:56,669 They'll be happy to chat with you. 174 00:08:56,669 --> 00:08:57,803 Set up a consultation. 175 00:08:57,803 --> 00:09:01,173 Doctor Andersen will talk to you and they'll tell you what they can do for you. 176 00:09:01,173 --> 00:09:03,543 And there's a lot more to it than Scrambler. 177 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:07,413 There are other technologies we're going to talk about today that they use as well. 178 00:09:07,413 --> 00:09:09,982 So we'll get into all that as we've evolved with the show. 179 00:09:09,982 --> 00:09:10,816 Stay tuned. 180 00:09:10,816 --> 00:09:13,986 You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate broadcasting 181 00:09:13,986 --> 00:09:18,124 here on the HD radio network, coast to coast across USA. 182 00:09:18,124 --> 00:09:19,525 Once again, that website, 183 00:09:19,525 --> 00:09:23,362 BrandNewDayHealth.com BrandNewDayHealth.com. 184 00:09:23,362 --> 00:09:26,132 Stay right there. Don't go anywhere. Doctors are in the house. 185 00:09:33,372 --> 00:09:38,911 You. Welcome back to America's Healthcare Advocate show 186 00:09:39,145 --> 00:09:43,950 broadcasting coast to coast across the USA here on the HD radio network. 187 00:09:43,950 --> 00:09:47,553 In studio with me, Doctor Arden Anderson and Brendan Lundberg. 188 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,222 He is the CEO of Radiant Pain Relief. 189 00:09:50,222 --> 00:09:52,425 And now we're going to talk about this technology. 190 00:09:52,425 --> 00:09:55,661 You just heard doctor talk about in the last segment. 191 00:09:55,861 --> 00:09:57,430 So let's start with this friend. 192 00:09:57,430 --> 00:09:59,298 And how did this all come about. 193 00:09:59,298 --> 00:10:03,736 And and it it's remarkable what it's doing and the people that it's helping. 194 00:10:03,903 --> 00:10:06,872 So just talk about the genesis of this is is 195 00:10:06,939 --> 00:10:10,376 you shocked me on the break when you said it's been around since 2009. 196 00:10:10,409 --> 00:10:12,845 Yeah. And I'm like, why isn't anybody using this? 197 00:10:12,845 --> 00:10:14,013 So let's talk. 198 00:10:14,013 --> 00:10:14,280 Yeah. 199 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,984 The Scrambler therapy was FDA cleared in 2009. 200 00:10:18,451 --> 00:10:21,687 It's been research at Mayo Clinic, at Johns Hopkins, at MD Anderson. 201 00:10:21,687 --> 00:10:23,756 Some very reputable institutions globally. 202 00:10:23,756 --> 00:10:28,761 So yeah, and yet it's been lost in obscurity, in part because of economics. 203 00:10:28,761 --> 00:10:31,998 I mean, economics drive, you know, like how how people 204 00:10:32,098 --> 00:10:35,101 how the providers make money, how the system makes money 205 00:10:35,101 --> 00:10:38,037 and scramble therapy falls out of that because of the way it was taken through. 206 00:10:38,037 --> 00:10:40,506 The FDA was predicated on a Tens unit, 207 00:10:40,506 --> 00:10:43,376 which is therapy that's been around since the late 1960s. 208 00:10:43,376 --> 00:10:44,110 Right. Doctor Andersen? 209 00:10:44,110 --> 00:10:47,513 Yes. And, and yet it's very different this the mechanism of action 210 00:10:47,513 --> 00:10:48,414 is quite different. 211 00:10:48,414 --> 00:10:50,816 And as outcome is very, very different as well, 212 00:10:50,816 --> 00:10:53,085 because it's creating rather than just temporary relief, 213 00:10:53,085 --> 00:10:56,455 it's creating more of a lasting or durable you just describe. 214 00:10:56,455 --> 00:10:57,490 Correct? Yeah. 215 00:10:57,490 --> 00:11:01,560 It really goes the fact that is based upon the most modern scientific understanding 216 00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:04,530 of pain and chronic pain in particular, which is that it's the brain. 217 00:11:04,964 --> 00:11:07,533 We pain is a protective mechanism. 218 00:11:07,533 --> 00:11:10,703 Every it's the single greatest human common denominator. 219 00:11:10,703 --> 00:11:13,439 Everybody, as you mentioned a minute ago, rich, poor. 220 00:11:13,439 --> 00:11:16,742 And every race creed, color experiences pain. 221 00:11:16,742 --> 00:11:17,610 Yep. Right. 222 00:11:17,610 --> 00:11:20,546 And it is actually a protective mechanism. 223 00:11:20,546 --> 00:11:23,616 When we have the hand on the hot stove, we've broken an ankle or God forbid, 224 00:11:23,616 --> 00:11:26,018 we have cancer growing in our tissue. We actually want to feel pain 225 00:11:26,018 --> 00:11:28,354 in those circumstances because it gets our attention. 226 00:11:28,354 --> 00:11:29,989 It cuts through the noise of life. 227 00:11:29,989 --> 00:11:31,590 It says, hey, something's not right. 228 00:11:31,590 --> 00:11:35,728 It encourages us to learn to not touch hot stoves, and it protects us, right. 229 00:11:35,728 --> 00:11:39,231 And we we seek we seek care because we feel something that's uncomfortable. 230 00:11:39,765 --> 00:11:43,102 However, when pain becomes chronic, the brain becomes wired 231 00:11:43,102 --> 00:11:46,138 or habituated to expect and petulant pain. 232 00:11:46,405 --> 00:11:49,308 As Doctor Andersen said, much like a phantom limb pain. 233 00:11:49,308 --> 00:11:50,476 It's not about the tissue anymore. 234 00:11:50,476 --> 00:11:53,312 It's about the nervous system becoming wired to expect pain. 235 00:11:53,312 --> 00:11:55,781 The tissue is then reacting to that. 236 00:11:55,781 --> 00:11:59,251 So rather than masking the pain with a drug, which is what, 237 00:11:59,552 --> 00:12:02,455 you know, most doctors are prescribing and doing or trying to, 238 00:12:03,622 --> 00:12:06,158 you know, inject something or surgically 239 00:12:06,158 --> 00:12:09,261 repair or put in a spinal cord stimulator, something that's much more invasive. 240 00:12:09,495 --> 00:12:13,099 This technology very calmly, very safely helps retrain the brain back 241 00:12:13,099 --> 00:12:14,834 to a more normal perception of pain. 242 00:12:14,834 --> 00:12:16,502 We're not making people superhuman. 243 00:12:16,502 --> 00:12:19,138 We're not taking away their ability to pay, to feel pain. 244 00:12:19,138 --> 00:12:21,173 You know, we're not going to have them be crashing through walls 245 00:12:21,173 --> 00:12:23,142 and not feeling that pain, but it's going to help them 246 00:12:23,142 --> 00:12:26,011 be a more normal pain experience in their body. 247 00:12:26,011 --> 00:12:27,413 The way that it does. That. 248 00:12:27,413 --> 00:12:30,449 And the reason it's called Scrambler therapy, is based upon 249 00:12:30,483 --> 00:12:35,521 a dynamic and changing, i.e scrambled set of artificial nerve impulses 250 00:12:35,921 --> 00:12:39,625 that are generated in the device and transmitted through the body 251 00:12:39,625 --> 00:12:41,460 via skin surface electrodes. 252 00:12:41,460 --> 00:12:42,561 We don't place the 253 00:12:42,561 --> 00:12:46,065 the electrodes typically on the pain area, but rather around the pain area. 254 00:12:46,432 --> 00:12:48,701 And we transmit this information through the nervous system, 255 00:12:48,701 --> 00:12:49,835 which the brain receives 256 00:12:49,835 --> 00:12:52,838 as kind of an endogenous or a self-generated nerve impulse. 257 00:12:53,205 --> 00:12:56,609 And then the second it receives it, it's it's changed 258 00:12:56,609 --> 00:12:58,277 scrambled in response to change. 259 00:12:58,277 --> 00:13:01,280 So over the course of an hour or so of of treatment session, 260 00:13:01,547 --> 00:13:04,650 the brain is flooded with a dynamic and changing set of information 261 00:13:04,917 --> 00:13:05,985 which it can't interpret. 262 00:13:05,985 --> 00:13:08,287 It can't understand it because it keeps changing, 263 00:13:08,287 --> 00:13:11,323 but because of that, it wants to know what is this message I'm receiving? 264 00:13:11,323 --> 00:13:13,359 Is it safe? Is it information that's important? 265 00:13:13,359 --> 00:13:14,059 Is it a threat? 266 00:13:14,059 --> 00:13:16,362 It doesn't know because it keeps changing. 267 00:13:16,362 --> 00:13:19,465 And so as it as it works in try to interpret that, it starts 268 00:13:19,465 --> 00:13:25,070 to reallocate focus or, you know, energy and you know, there's a there's a saying 269 00:13:25,070 --> 00:13:29,074 we've probably all heard what, what we fire, we wire. 270 00:13:29,074 --> 00:13:32,011 Right. It's like it's like it's a habit kind of. 271 00:13:32,011 --> 00:13:34,313 And the brain has been in the habit, created these grooves 272 00:13:34,313 --> 00:13:38,217 or these myelination that have perpetuated pain as it goes through this process, 273 00:13:38,217 --> 00:13:40,920 something called neuroplasticity. The brain can change. 274 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,756 And so in the first session, typically we'll see some level of relief. 275 00:13:43,756 --> 00:13:46,759 But it's really through a series of sessions over time. 276 00:13:46,926 --> 00:13:48,727 And it could be 10 or 15. 277 00:13:48,727 --> 00:13:51,597 We recommend daily sessions for 2 or 3 weeks. 278 00:13:51,597 --> 00:13:53,599 And through that process and through neuroplasticity, 279 00:13:53,599 --> 00:13:55,801 the break and go through a restorative process. 280 00:13:55,801 --> 00:13:57,970 What also happens because this is a process, 281 00:13:57,970 --> 00:13:59,104 not just a one time procedure, 282 00:13:59,104 --> 00:14:03,075 but it's a process, is that, you know, the person immediately. 283 00:14:03,108 --> 00:14:05,010 Typically night one starts to sleep better, 284 00:14:05,010 --> 00:14:07,580 which is hugely restorative to the nervous system. Right? 285 00:14:07,580 --> 00:14:10,282 I mean, that's most people in chronic pain aren't sleeping well through the night 286 00:14:10,282 --> 00:14:13,285 or they're on medications that are you know, artificially helping them sleep. 287 00:14:13,619 --> 00:14:15,588 So sleeping improves. 288 00:14:15,588 --> 00:14:18,591 Then as that starts to happen, they start to feel better. 289 00:14:18,858 --> 00:14:22,561 They start to maybe need their medications that they're on less they can start. 290 00:14:22,561 --> 00:14:25,564 We need down titrating off of those, which probably helps them feel better 291 00:14:25,898 --> 00:14:29,368 and maybe even most importantly, hope starts to return 292 00:14:29,702 --> 00:14:32,071 as they can start to feel better, as they can start to move better, 293 00:14:32,071 --> 00:14:33,572 as they can start to have better mental clarity 294 00:14:33,572 --> 00:14:36,408 because are not on these medications that are complicating them. 295 00:14:36,408 --> 00:14:37,676 They can interact in their world 296 00:14:37,676 --> 00:14:40,679 with their loved ones, with their kids, with their job, with their hobbies. 297 00:14:40,679 --> 00:14:44,116 Hope starts to return, and that becomes a hugely powerful catalyst to helping them 298 00:14:44,116 --> 00:14:44,550 continue to 299 00:14:45,551 --> 00:14:46,352 improve as well. 300 00:14:46,352 --> 00:14:47,253 You know. 301 00:14:47,253 --> 00:14:51,257 And is that's that's fascinating because, 302 00:14:52,057 --> 00:14:55,060 my wife had a heart attack here about a month a half ago. 303 00:14:55,060 --> 00:14:59,732 She's been dealing with, heart failure for the last six, seven years. 304 00:15:00,099 --> 00:15:03,335 And we had some remarkable news when we went to see 305 00:15:03,335 --> 00:15:06,338 our our cardiologist about a week ago. 306 00:15:06,538 --> 00:15:11,443 And, and our surgeon, who was going to she was prepared to do their, the surgery. 307 00:15:11,443 --> 00:15:12,811 They were going to do surgery. 308 00:15:12,811 --> 00:15:15,714 They came back and said your ejection fraction rate is at 54. 309 00:15:15,714 --> 00:15:17,583 Now you're at the low end of normal. 310 00:15:17,583 --> 00:15:21,320 You don't need any of this when you talk about psychological difference. 311 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:21,820 Yeah. 312 00:15:21,820 --> 00:15:24,056 She was like 313 00:15:24,056 --> 00:15:26,191 like a 16 year old girl. Yeah okay. 314 00:15:26,191 --> 00:15:30,396 Because mentally she had hope now that she was going to be able 315 00:15:30,396 --> 00:15:31,597 to live a normal life with her. 316 00:15:31,597 --> 00:15:33,732 Six grandchildren and move forward. 317 00:15:33,732 --> 00:15:36,769 So yeah, the psychological I don't think people recognize 318 00:15:36,769 --> 00:15:37,970 the psychological completely. 319 00:15:37,970 --> 00:15:41,507 The other part of the problem is, and you alluded to this, okay. 320 00:15:41,573 --> 00:15:44,877 The reason why I think a lot of this doesn't get adopted 321 00:15:44,877 --> 00:15:49,048 is because the pharmaceutical industry and look, I'm not anti pharmaceutical. 322 00:15:49,048 --> 00:15:50,282 But let's be clear. 323 00:15:50,282 --> 00:15:53,485 There's a hell of a lot of money being made, selling medications. 324 00:15:53,519 --> 00:15:54,353 That's okay. Yeah. 325 00:15:54,353 --> 00:15:56,588 And the doctors are getting paid the medication. 326 00:15:56,588 --> 00:15:57,957 The companies are getting paid. 327 00:15:57,957 --> 00:15:59,825 The insurance companies are getting paid. 328 00:15:59,825 --> 00:16:00,859 Believe it or not. 329 00:16:00,859 --> 00:16:02,561 Okay? There's a lot of money flowing here. 330 00:16:02,561 --> 00:16:02,761 Yeah. 331 00:16:02,761 --> 00:16:08,500 So, you know, eliminating the need for OxyContin and other pain 332 00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:12,171 relief medications by using a technology like this, it's a threat. 333 00:16:12,171 --> 00:16:13,706 To the system. Thank you very much. 334 00:16:13,706 --> 00:16:14,406 It is. Okay. 335 00:16:14,406 --> 00:16:16,909 And it's out of the box because it's out of the box. 336 00:16:16,909 --> 00:16:18,444 It's a threat to the system. 337 00:16:18,444 --> 00:16:20,512 Then you're not necessarily going to see it adopted. 338 00:16:20,512 --> 00:16:23,582 And that's why, you know what Doctor Andersen and Steve 339 00:16:23,582 --> 00:16:27,386 Sanborn have set up at Brand New Day is so very, very different. 340 00:16:27,386 --> 00:16:28,120 Yeah. 341 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,723 How many other clinics do you have to sit around the country? 342 00:16:30,723 --> 00:16:32,424 Well, there's there's a handful. 343 00:16:32,424 --> 00:16:34,760 You know, I don't know the exact number. I was given the. 344 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,663 Stock pervasive throughout the country because it's not being adopted. 345 00:16:37,663 --> 00:16:37,997 Yeah. 346 00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:41,133 Well the consumers haven't heard about it because nobody behind it 347 00:16:41,133 --> 00:16:43,902 has been able to market it to them in a very broad way. 348 00:16:43,902 --> 00:16:46,038 Physicians don't understand it in many cases 349 00:16:46,038 --> 00:16:48,774 because they're not trained on this. I know, I understand it. 350 00:16:48,774 --> 00:16:50,743 Maybe I think I think many physicians 351 00:16:50,743 --> 00:16:53,045 want to do the right thing, but they also have an economic reality. 352 00:16:53,045 --> 00:16:53,912 They have, 353 00:16:53,912 --> 00:16:56,482 you know, feed their families and keep the lights on and pay their staff. 354 00:16:56,482 --> 00:16:58,751 Of course, they're going to do the things that generate revenue for them, 355 00:16:58,751 --> 00:17:02,521 and that's insurance based prescriptive medicine in most cases. 356 00:17:02,521 --> 00:17:04,723 Or, you know, injections, even though the injections, 357 00:17:04,723 --> 00:17:08,093 the steroid injections, Doctor Andersen can clarify this as a physician. 358 00:17:08,093 --> 00:17:11,296 But I think the literature is now showing they accelerate the degeneration 359 00:17:11,296 --> 00:17:11,730 of the tissue. 360 00:17:11,730 --> 00:17:14,233 They're actually making the person worse, even if they're giving some analgesic. 361 00:17:14,233 --> 00:17:17,636 But you're getting you're getting instantaneous relief. 362 00:17:17,636 --> 00:17:20,739 That's going to last a very short period of time when you right back in the box. 363 00:17:20,973 --> 00:17:21,507 And that's why 364 00:17:21,507 --> 00:17:24,543 I think Scrambler therapy is so powerful, because it is a process, again, 365 00:17:24,743 --> 00:17:28,047 that becomes empowering to the individual to where they can reclaim their life. 366 00:17:28,047 --> 00:17:28,947 And that's remarkable. 367 00:17:28,947 --> 00:17:32,051 If you want to learn more about this, maybe you're a physician 368 00:17:32,184 --> 00:17:33,452 and you'd like to learn about it, 369 00:17:33,452 --> 00:17:37,556 go to the website BrandNewDayHealth.com BrandNewDayHealth.com. 370 00:17:37,756 --> 00:17:40,159 They'll be happy to reach out to you and chat to you about this. 371 00:17:40,159 --> 00:17:43,495 If you're someone that in pain or one of your family 372 00:17:43,495 --> 00:17:46,498 members is in pain, or a good friend of yours, please, 373 00:17:46,498 --> 00:17:50,002 I urge you to go to this website I've sent lots of people to this clinic. 374 00:17:50,169 --> 00:17:51,270 It had great results. 375 00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:52,704 When I come back from the break, 376 00:17:52,704 --> 00:17:55,340 we're going to talk about Parkinson's now, neuropathy 377 00:17:55,340 --> 00:17:58,077 and some of the other things that they're treating it. Brand new day. 378 00:17:58,077 --> 00:18:00,145 Stay tuned. We'll be right back after the break. 379 00:18:00,145 --> 00:18:01,547 You're listening to America's 380 00:18:01,547 --> 00:18:05,350 Healthcare Advocate broadcasting here on the HD radio network. 381 00:18:05,617 --> 00:18:07,986 Coast to coast, across the USA. 382 00:18:07,986 --> 00:18:08,821 Stay right there. 383 00:18:21,233 --> 00:18:22,000 Welcome back. 384 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,838 You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate show, broadcasting coast to coast 385 00:18:25,838 --> 00:18:30,275 across the USA here on the high radio network in studio with me today, 386 00:18:30,476 --> 00:18:31,343 Brendan Lundberg. 387 00:18:31,343 --> 00:18:34,012 He is the CEO of Radiant Pain Relief. 388 00:18:34,012 --> 00:18:36,815 And Doctor Arden Anderson from Brand New Day Clinic. 389 00:18:36,815 --> 00:18:38,383 And if you want to know more about that 390 00:18:38,383 --> 00:18:42,121 and what they do there, that website is BrandNewDayHealth.com. 391 00:18:42,421 --> 00:18:43,222 So doctor, 392 00:18:43,222 --> 00:18:44,857 you know, we've had some pretty remarkable 393 00:18:44,857 --> 00:18:47,860 people come on this radio show that you've treated. 394 00:18:48,060 --> 00:18:51,430 But I want to start with Parkinson's because this is a disease that, 395 00:18:52,030 --> 00:18:55,033 you know, that affects a lot of people. 396 00:18:55,634 --> 00:18:58,637 It's being treated with medications. 397 00:18:59,304 --> 00:19:01,840 You've got a totally different way of treating this. 398 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,142 It's a Neuro20 suit. 399 00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:07,279 I happen to have one of these suits and I use it for conditioning and working out. 400 00:19:07,513 --> 00:19:10,215 But talk about the Neuro20 we had. 401 00:19:10,215 --> 00:19:12,918 We brought the suit in studio. We've talked about it. 402 00:19:12,918 --> 00:19:13,952 Talk about that. 403 00:19:13,952 --> 00:19:16,421 And how this, along with the other treatments 404 00:19:16,421 --> 00:19:19,424 that you've got, the light treatments, the scrambled treatment, 405 00:19:19,658 --> 00:19:22,561 the effect is having on park space because you've this 406 00:19:22,561 --> 00:19:25,564 some of this stuff is just remarkable to me to even hear about. 407 00:19:25,697 --> 00:19:28,700 It is actually and it's very exciting. 408 00:19:28,934 --> 00:19:31,436 Parkinson's is extremely devastating. 409 00:19:31,436 --> 00:19:34,439 And the problem is, is the numbers just keep going up. 410 00:19:34,439 --> 00:19:35,807 And so 411 00:19:37,142 --> 00:19:40,746 the problem is, is that conventional medicine 412 00:19:40,746 --> 00:19:46,051 is only looking at either stem cell therapy 413 00:19:46,318 --> 00:19:49,388 a drug or surgery. 414 00:19:50,556 --> 00:19:52,824 To address the Parkinson's issue. 415 00:19:52,824 --> 00:19:54,159 So essentially really all they're doing 416 00:19:54,159 --> 00:19:57,162 is they're looking at how do I address the symptom. 417 00:19:58,297 --> 00:20:01,700 And nobody is really looking at 418 00:20:01,733 --> 00:20:05,671 well what's the electromagnetic process that's gone awry. 419 00:20:06,605 --> 00:20:09,608 So what we find is that 420 00:20:10,275 --> 00:20:13,212 if we can wake up that nervous 421 00:20:13,212 --> 00:20:17,449 system again, and this is where the neuro soup comes in, 422 00:20:18,150 --> 00:20:21,386 because the Neuro20 suit, even though it's on the body, 423 00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:24,856 the long and the short of it is it's actually 424 00:20:24,856 --> 00:20:28,393 stimulating the central nervous system and back to the brain. 425 00:20:28,393 --> 00:20:28,694 Right? 426 00:20:28,694 --> 00:20:34,967 Stimulating, brain derived neurotrophic factor, which 20 years ago, 427 00:20:34,967 --> 00:20:40,205 we did not believe that brain cells could be regenerated. 428 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,009 We thought it was impossible. 429 00:20:44,009 --> 00:20:46,878 And, well, there was a few people, Robert Becker, 430 00:20:46,878 --> 00:20:50,282 for one, who discovered that it was possible to do that. 431 00:20:50,282 --> 00:20:52,718 But nonetheless, conventional medicine. 432 00:20:52,718 --> 00:20:56,255 And still today, there's a broad spectrum 433 00:20:56,255 --> 00:20:59,258 of opinion that, well, you can't really do too much about it. 434 00:20:59,458 --> 00:21:02,961 But what we're finding and there is a clinic 435 00:21:02,961 --> 00:21:05,964 now in, 436 00:21:05,998 --> 00:21:09,001 Europe that is associated 437 00:21:09,001 --> 00:21:13,372 with Steve and us that is following this protocol. 438 00:21:14,072 --> 00:21:17,776 And we now have the longest Parkinson's 439 00:21:17,776 --> 00:21:21,346 patient on the Neuro20 suit protocol 440 00:21:21,546 --> 00:21:25,317 continuing to improve over time. 441 00:21:25,317 --> 00:21:28,720 And this clinic is exclusively 442 00:21:29,221 --> 00:21:33,258 treating Parkinson's patients successfully. 443 00:21:33,925 --> 00:21:37,596 Now, there's a number of things that go into that because 444 00:21:38,697 --> 00:21:41,833 Parkinson's is an expression 445 00:21:41,833 --> 00:21:45,137 of an overall issue going on in the body. 446 00:21:45,170 --> 00:21:47,806 So there's why did they get it to begin with? 447 00:21:47,806 --> 00:21:48,907 Yeah. 448 00:21:48,907 --> 00:21:51,576 What else may be associated with this? 449 00:21:51,576 --> 00:21:55,947 Do they also have some dementia and long term most all Parkinson's patients? 450 00:21:56,081 --> 00:21:58,050 Yes, they do. Dementia, yes. 451 00:21:58,050 --> 00:22:00,986 Do they have also a cardiac issue going on? 452 00:22:00,986 --> 00:22:02,321 Do they have maybe diabetes? 453 00:22:02,321 --> 00:22:05,691 So what other chronic illnesses do they have with that? 454 00:22:05,691 --> 00:22:08,427 Because we need to address all of those things. 455 00:22:08,427 --> 00:22:11,430 And one of the things that Doctor Palermo, 456 00:22:11,797 --> 00:22:16,134 who has really pioneered a lot of this as the, 457 00:22:18,203 --> 00:22:20,238 medical director regarding 458 00:22:20,238 --> 00:22:23,675 their natural 20, is that it's one thing 459 00:22:24,009 --> 00:22:28,513 with a disease like Parkinson's to treat it and get improvement. 460 00:22:28,847 --> 00:22:32,918 It's another thing to maintain that improvement. 461 00:22:33,151 --> 00:22:37,956 And that's where nutrition has to come in to supplementing, 462 00:22:38,223 --> 00:22:41,860 particularly brain nutrition in order. 463 00:22:41,860 --> 00:22:44,629 So the Neuro20 sued. 464 00:22:44,629 --> 00:22:47,632 Stimulating the brain derived neurotrophic factor 465 00:22:47,699 --> 00:22:50,702 holds and continues to progress. 466 00:22:50,902 --> 00:22:53,905 But we're talking about improving their 467 00:22:55,073 --> 00:22:58,076 not only their, 468 00:22:58,210 --> 00:23:01,213 strength but their coordination, 469 00:23:01,413 --> 00:23:04,783 reducing or eliminating their tremors, 470 00:23:05,117 --> 00:23:07,919 getting their personality back. 471 00:23:07,919 --> 00:23:10,956 Because one thing that we see with Parkinson's patients 472 00:23:10,956 --> 00:23:15,761 as they decline is they get a very flat affect. 473 00:23:16,094 --> 00:23:19,965 They get very rattly in their gait, 474 00:23:21,266 --> 00:23:22,467 and, and then they. 475 00:23:22,467 --> 00:23:23,402 Lose the ability to walk. 476 00:23:23,402 --> 00:23:25,704 And then they lose the ability to walk, right? 477 00:23:25,704 --> 00:23:28,006 Absolutely. They're there. 478 00:23:28,006 --> 00:23:29,374 You know, you can see them. 479 00:23:29,374 --> 00:23:31,710 They're there, but they're not really there, 480 00:23:31,710 --> 00:23:35,847 unfortunately, because the brain's not working like it's close to. 481 00:23:36,181 --> 00:23:39,284 So the Neuro20 is making progress 482 00:23:39,284 --> 00:23:43,755 in reversing that whole systemic illness. 483 00:23:43,789 --> 00:23:45,190 So describe the suit I want. 484 00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:46,925 People are saying this is like a wetsuit. 485 00:23:46,925 --> 00:23:48,860 It looks like a surfers wet. It does. 486 00:23:48,860 --> 00:23:51,696 It looks like a wet diver's or a diver suit. 487 00:23:51,696 --> 00:23:55,066 And it has pads on the inside of it 488 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,403 where it is lined with silver. 489 00:23:58,804 --> 00:24:00,739 And so there's also a little bit 490 00:24:00,739 --> 00:24:04,042 of an antibacterial component to it just because of silver. 491 00:24:04,743 --> 00:24:05,644 It is then 492 00:24:06,611 --> 00:24:09,848 by Wi-Fi hooked into 493 00:24:09,881 --> 00:24:14,219 a unit that through the computer generates the signals. 494 00:24:14,219 --> 00:24:16,455 And then the computer's like an Apple computer. 495 00:24:16,455 --> 00:24:18,757 I have one that. Is correct on an iPad. 496 00:24:18,757 --> 00:24:19,724 Yeah, iPad. 497 00:24:19,724 --> 00:24:24,963 And it generates a pulsed signal. 498 00:24:24,963 --> 00:24:29,334 And the pulse is the key to getting this brain derived 499 00:24:29,334 --> 00:24:33,872 neurotrophic factor to be stimulated in the central nervous system. 500 00:24:34,339 --> 00:24:36,641 And so it is unique. 501 00:24:36,641 --> 00:24:41,980 It is, cleared through the FDA, correct, as a medical device. 502 00:24:41,980 --> 00:24:43,582 So it requires a prescription. 503 00:24:43,582 --> 00:24:48,854 It's not like going to body 20 and putting on a unit to gain strength. 504 00:24:48,854 --> 00:24:49,154 Yeah. 505 00:24:49,154 --> 00:24:52,157 That all it is, is a muscle stimulant unit. 506 00:24:52,190 --> 00:24:55,026 This actually is a central nervous system. 507 00:24:55,026 --> 00:24:56,928 Stimulate. 508 00:24:56,928 --> 00:25:02,167 That's different than stimulating the muscles because it's the brain. 509 00:25:02,167 --> 00:25:05,670 It's the central nervous system that we have to change. 510 00:25:05,670 --> 00:25:08,573 And the computer that you get with the suit, 511 00:25:08,573 --> 00:25:12,511 which you set up the therapy after they go through a series of sessions like I did, 512 00:25:12,711 --> 00:25:13,612 they can buy the suit, 513 00:25:13,612 --> 00:25:17,415 the computer, and they can take it home and you can show them or program 514 00:25:17,415 --> 00:25:21,119 for them, correct progressive treatment so they can keep because as you said, 515 00:25:21,953 --> 00:25:24,589 with Parkinson's, it's a continual effort. 516 00:25:24,589 --> 00:25:24,956 Correct. 517 00:25:24,956 --> 00:25:25,891 So this is something 518 00:25:25,891 --> 00:25:29,761 where someone can actually take the suit I have one, my wife has one. 519 00:25:29,761 --> 00:25:31,863 We use it for different reasons. But the point is 520 00:25:31,863 --> 00:25:34,900 you can take it and program it to do whatever you needed to do. 521 00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:37,235 Can you talk about that a little bit? Yes, that is correct. 522 00:25:37,235 --> 00:25:40,539 Well, it depends upon, where you're at and what we 523 00:25:40,539 --> 00:25:44,042 see with Parkinson's is that 524 00:25:45,277 --> 00:25:48,280 most of these people are exhausted. 525 00:25:48,780 --> 00:25:51,583 Oh, because constantly 526 00:25:51,583 --> 00:25:54,753 the, the shake right burns a lot of energy. 527 00:25:54,753 --> 00:25:55,720 Right. 528 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,823 And so with a Parkinson's patient as compared 529 00:25:58,823 --> 00:26:02,494 to, say myself or yourself 530 00:26:02,494 --> 00:26:05,730 that doesn't have Parkinson's, you have to go much slower. 531 00:26:06,097 --> 00:26:09,100 The signal has to be much weaker. 532 00:26:09,801 --> 00:26:13,638 We can't have the intensity to it because what happens is, is will blow 533 00:26:13,638 --> 00:26:18,843 through their ATP long before we get any therapeutic benefit on that. 534 00:26:18,843 --> 00:26:23,081 So that's also why it's vital that we supplement them in order 535 00:26:23,081 --> 00:26:27,152 for that therapeutic aspect to be beneficial. 536 00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:31,423 So we have to go real slow starting out very slow. 537 00:26:31,423 --> 00:26:34,726 And the brain then starts responding positively. 538 00:26:34,726 --> 00:26:39,898 So we begin to get additive benefit with each therapy, 539 00:26:40,298 --> 00:26:45,470 as opposed to if we go too fast, we then go the opposite way because we, 540 00:26:45,503 --> 00:26:48,506 like I said, we just blow out their energy and it doesn't work that way. 541 00:26:48,773 --> 00:26:52,410 And so that's just something that has been learned over time. 542 00:26:52,978 --> 00:26:55,981 In treating Parkinson's patients, each one is going to be 543 00:26:55,981 --> 00:26:59,250 a little bit different as far as what can they tolerate. 544 00:26:59,851 --> 00:27:04,489 Because how early are we getting them in the right disease process? 545 00:27:04,923 --> 00:27:08,760 For one thing, as well as what kind of diet do they have? 546 00:27:09,494 --> 00:27:12,497 What kind of body health do they have? 547 00:27:12,564 --> 00:27:15,600 As I said, what other chronic diseases do they have? 548 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,103 Because those things also steal, of. Course. 549 00:27:18,103 --> 00:27:19,471 Attrition from them. 550 00:27:19,471 --> 00:27:24,242 So each one really has to be customized and then change as they change as well. 551 00:27:24,242 --> 00:27:27,379 And that's the beauty of this suit and the beauty of what it can do. 552 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,116 It is quite remarkable. 553 00:27:31,116 --> 00:27:34,285 And I have seen the results this on people have come into the show. 554 00:27:34,285 --> 00:27:35,854 We come back in the next segment. 555 00:27:35,854 --> 00:27:39,057 I'm going to ask Doctor Andersen, tell the story of a man who came in 556 00:27:39,157 --> 00:27:43,695 from Washington, DC, who had dropped foot, who could not walk without a walker. 557 00:27:43,795 --> 00:27:47,165 And he walked to the door of this studio and sat in the same chair. 558 00:27:47,432 --> 00:27:51,302 The doctor is sitting here right now, and I want him to tell that story 559 00:27:51,302 --> 00:27:54,606 about how that suit and his treatment changed his life. 560 00:27:54,606 --> 00:27:56,174 We'll be right back after the break. 561 00:27:56,174 --> 00:28:00,545 You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate broadcasting here on the HIA 562 00:28:00,545 --> 00:28:01,446 Radio Network. 563 00:28:01,446 --> 00:28:05,250 I urge you, if you know anybody that's got Parkinson's 564 00:28:05,250 --> 00:28:08,353 in your family, in your church, at your place of work, 565 00:28:08,553 --> 00:28:11,923 and you want to help them, have them go to the website 566 00:28:12,090 --> 00:28:15,660 BrandNewDayHealth.com, BrandNewDayHealth.com. 567 00:28:15,794 --> 00:28:18,963 People are coming in here for these treatments from all over the country. 568 00:28:19,197 --> 00:28:20,732 This works. 569 00:28:20,732 --> 00:28:22,300 I wouldn't have it on the show, 570 00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:25,303 and I sure as hell wouldn't endorse if I didn't believe in it. 571 00:28:25,370 --> 00:28:28,239 So I'm urging you BrandNewDayHealth.com. 572 00:28:28,239 --> 00:28:30,308 Stay right there. We'll be right back after the break. 573 00:28:37,482 --> 00:28:40,051 Welcome back to America's Healthcare Advocates Show, 574 00:28:40,051 --> 00:28:44,656 broadcasting coast to coast across the USA here on the HIA Radio Network. 575 00:28:44,656 --> 00:28:48,626 I want to give a little shout out to our newest affiliate W, RH, 576 00:28:48,626 --> 00:28:52,430 I am and FM 100.1 in Charlotte, North Carolina. 577 00:28:52,697 --> 00:28:55,467 We're actually on for two hours every Saturday there. 578 00:28:55,467 --> 00:28:57,569 That's pretty remarkable. We thank you very much. 579 00:28:57,569 --> 00:28:59,070 Very happy to have you on board. 580 00:28:59,070 --> 00:29:03,208 Is part of the America's Healthcare Advocate family in studio with me today, 581 00:29:03,374 --> 00:29:04,275 Brendan Lundberg. 582 00:29:04,275 --> 00:29:09,180 He is the CEO of Radiant Pain Relief, the company that does the Scrambler. 583 00:29:09,314 --> 00:29:11,883 We're going to talk a little bit about that and ask him to recap that. 584 00:29:11,883 --> 00:29:15,820 And Doctor Arden Anderson from Brand New Day Health, the clinic 585 00:29:15,820 --> 00:29:19,557 here in Kansas City, actually in the next to that, provides 586 00:29:19,557 --> 00:29:22,560 the services that we're talking about that are very different 587 00:29:22,594 --> 00:29:24,662 than what you're seeing from a typical physician. 588 00:29:24,662 --> 00:29:27,932 So this is all these therapies, they're noninvasive. 589 00:29:27,932 --> 00:29:29,868 There are no drugs involved. 590 00:29:29,868 --> 00:29:31,503 There are no surgeries involved. 591 00:29:31,503 --> 00:29:33,471 It is remarkable what they can do. 592 00:29:33,471 --> 00:29:37,609 I know because I've sent many people there and they've had remarkable results. 593 00:29:37,609 --> 00:29:41,813 I want you just to recap a little bit about Scrambler again. 594 00:29:41,813 --> 00:29:45,984 And this whole pain management thing, because it is a huge issue 595 00:29:45,984 --> 00:29:47,385 and is Doctor Andersen said, 596 00:29:47,385 --> 00:29:51,222 everybody knows somebody in their family or friends is going through this brand. 597 00:29:51,256 --> 00:29:52,857 And you're listening and you're dealing with pain, 598 00:29:52,857 --> 00:29:56,528 or someone you care about is dealing with pain and is affecting their life. 599 00:29:56,828 --> 00:29:58,296 Come to Brand New Day. 600 00:29:58,296 --> 00:30:00,031 I mean, this therapy is safe. 601 00:30:00,031 --> 00:30:01,533 It's consistently effective. 602 00:30:01,533 --> 00:30:02,901 It creates lasting relief. 603 00:30:02,901 --> 00:30:05,904 It creates empowerment that individual back into their life. 604 00:30:05,937 --> 00:30:10,208 And I spent the last 15 years working with this technology on the clinical care 605 00:30:10,208 --> 00:30:14,078 side, as well as on the, you know, the physician education side. 606 00:30:14,345 --> 00:30:17,448 If you're interested in adopting this into a into a clinical practice, 607 00:30:17,448 --> 00:30:20,451 please reach out to us via the Brand New Day website. 608 00:30:20,852 --> 00:30:21,452 You know, I'm on it. 609 00:30:21,452 --> 00:30:25,523 I think Brand New Day is the only clinic in the Midwest between Chicago and Texas 610 00:30:25,523 --> 00:30:27,358 that has this therapy. That's amazing. Yeah. 611 00:30:27,358 --> 00:30:30,261 So that's what we've got people coming in here from all over the place. 612 00:30:30,261 --> 00:30:32,697 100%. They're doing amazing things are brand new day. 613 00:30:32,697 --> 00:30:33,998 You know, I'm really, really impressed. 614 00:30:33,998 --> 00:30:37,068 And, you know, while pain has been where I focus the last 15 years 615 00:30:37,068 --> 00:30:40,471 of my life and career and passion, my dad suffers from Parkinson's. 616 00:30:40,471 --> 00:30:41,973 So I've been keenly aware. 617 00:30:41,973 --> 00:30:44,509 Oh, let's say you know this. Today, Doctor Andersen's comments. 618 00:30:44,509 --> 00:30:46,678 And I can't wait to get my dad hooked up to this. 619 00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:50,715 I would urge you to do it because I will tell you, I've I've seen the people 620 00:30:51,416 --> 00:30:54,085 that have come in and gone to these therapies, and I want to 621 00:30:54,085 --> 00:30:57,522 I want to switch to a story now, Doctor Andersen, I'm sure you remember 622 00:30:58,089 --> 00:31:00,758 we had a gentleman come here from Washington, DC, 623 00:31:00,758 --> 00:31:02,260 and he walked in the studio. 624 00:31:02,260 --> 00:31:05,330 He had a little bit of a limp, didn't have a typical normal gait. 625 00:31:05,730 --> 00:31:08,867 And he sat down and he had had dropped foot. 626 00:31:09,300 --> 00:31:13,104 And he told me before the show started that he had been in a walker 627 00:31:13,371 --> 00:31:18,109 and could not move without being in that walker until he came to a brand new day. 628 00:31:18,409 --> 00:31:20,745 And he came in here and did this radio show. 629 00:31:20,745 --> 00:31:22,146 I want you to talk about that 630 00:31:22,146 --> 00:31:26,985 and and how you were able to basically eliminate the drop foot. 631 00:31:26,985 --> 00:31:30,622 He was 90% better when I saw him and he was going to another. 632 00:31:30,622 --> 00:31:31,522 We could treat with you. 633 00:31:31,522 --> 00:31:34,659 So I'm most curious to hear how he is now. 634 00:31:34,659 --> 00:31:36,261 But tell the story. 635 00:31:36,261 --> 00:31:38,196 Yeah, that's a very nice story, really. 636 00:31:38,196 --> 00:31:41,833 He had a spinal cord injury, post-surgery. 637 00:31:42,233 --> 00:31:45,036 Left him with bilateral foot drop. 638 00:31:45,036 --> 00:31:48,339 And to the point that he had to wear. 639 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:49,674 Excuse me? 640 00:31:49,674 --> 00:31:52,677 He had to wear braces on both ankles and feet 641 00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:55,713 to hold his feet from just dropping. 642 00:31:55,713 --> 00:32:00,919 And then he had to use either crutches or a walker, to walk. 643 00:32:00,919 --> 00:32:03,922 So he was not real ambulatory 644 00:32:04,155 --> 00:32:09,594 and particularly for him because he was formerly a, 645 00:32:11,529 --> 00:32:13,564 semi-pro or pro soccer player, I. 646 00:32:13,564 --> 00:32:14,933 Remember that, yes. 647 00:32:14,933 --> 00:32:18,102 Yeah. And so very active man. 648 00:32:18,102 --> 00:32:19,637 Yeah, extremely. 649 00:32:19,637 --> 00:32:24,475 And for him not even to be able to walk normally just devastated him. 650 00:32:24,909 --> 00:32:26,311 Well, 651 00:32:26,311 --> 00:32:29,480 there was nothing that anybody could do conventionally for him 652 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,317 because he had an injury to the spinal cord. 653 00:32:32,317 --> 00:32:36,421 He came here, he heard about us and put him in a suit. 654 00:32:36,888 --> 00:32:39,891 And even after the second treatment, 655 00:32:40,892 --> 00:32:45,029 he had more control of his feet and ankles 656 00:32:45,330 --> 00:32:48,333 than he had had prior to surgery. 657 00:32:49,133 --> 00:32:51,302 And so he was really excited about it. 658 00:32:51,302 --> 00:32:55,740 And it continued to progress to the point where he didn't need 659 00:32:55,740 --> 00:32:57,475 the crutches anymore. 660 00:32:57,475 --> 00:32:58,543 As you saw him. 661 00:32:58,543 --> 00:33:00,278 Walked in this. That's correct. 662 00:33:00,278 --> 00:33:01,446 That's correct. 663 00:33:01,446 --> 00:33:06,617 And he was able to graduate away from having the braces as well. 664 00:33:07,151 --> 00:33:08,252 He couldn't run. 665 00:33:09,420 --> 00:33:10,321 But he 666 00:33:10,321 --> 00:33:14,292 now had some mobility, normal mobility 667 00:33:14,292 --> 00:33:18,496 back to of the Allied quality of life to get back to those kinds of things. 668 00:33:18,496 --> 00:33:22,867 And so, he continued to progress, through that. 669 00:33:23,334 --> 00:33:27,071 Next week and so and then went back, 670 00:33:27,638 --> 00:33:30,308 went back home and, 671 00:33:30,308 --> 00:33:35,980 so foot drop is one of those things that we are seeing more of actually, 672 00:33:35,980 --> 00:33:38,983 because people are getting that information out. 673 00:33:39,317 --> 00:33:43,988 We recently had a woman out of state who came to us with several things. 674 00:33:43,988 --> 00:33:47,125 One, she had foot drop, but she had foot drop 675 00:33:47,125 --> 00:33:50,128 because she had such significant neuropathy 676 00:33:50,461 --> 00:33:55,233 and pain that she was losing muscle strength in the legs. 677 00:33:55,233 --> 00:33:58,503 And so she was having foot drop because of that loss. 678 00:33:59,137 --> 00:34:01,372 Completely disturbing her life. 679 00:34:01,372 --> 00:34:03,574 She couldn't sleep well anymore. 680 00:34:03,574 --> 00:34:05,476 She was not able to do her, 681 00:34:06,511 --> 00:34:08,179 chores around the home. 682 00:34:08,179 --> 00:34:10,681 And it was affecting the whole family. 683 00:34:10,681 --> 00:34:13,651 As a result. 684 00:34:13,985 --> 00:34:16,988 The first thing that we focused on was pain, 685 00:34:17,522 --> 00:34:21,692 because we can get to the neuropathy and the foot drop 686 00:34:21,692 --> 00:34:26,364 and so on with the Neuro20, but pain was the most important thing 687 00:34:26,364 --> 00:34:29,667 that was affecting her life, her sleep and so on. 688 00:34:29,700 --> 00:34:32,670 Correct. By the time she left, 689 00:34:33,271 --> 00:34:36,374 she was pain free and went back home. 690 00:34:37,442 --> 00:34:41,679 And so that helped convince her that, yep, 691 00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:45,049 we need to move forward and address, other things. 692 00:34:45,450 --> 00:34:46,350 With that. 693 00:34:46,350 --> 00:34:49,253 And you were using the 20 suit for a lot of this, correct? 694 00:34:49,253 --> 00:34:49,921 Correct. 695 00:34:49,921 --> 00:34:53,591 But we also added the Scrambler and and. 696 00:34:53,591 --> 00:34:54,459 The light treatment. 697 00:34:54,459 --> 00:34:55,226 The light treatment. 698 00:34:55,226 --> 00:34:57,595 There's another therapy as well. We use. 699 00:34:57,595 --> 00:35:01,499 But we decided that pain for her 700 00:35:01,532 --> 00:35:04,502 was the first thing we had to address 701 00:35:04,702 --> 00:35:07,705 in order to improve her quality of life. 702 00:35:07,705 --> 00:35:08,506 Correct. 703 00:35:08,506 --> 00:35:12,777 Because even if we got rid of the neuropathy, 704 00:35:14,378 --> 00:35:16,447 that was not the primary thing. 705 00:35:16,447 --> 00:35:19,350 That was a negative in her quality of life. 706 00:35:19,350 --> 00:35:22,487 It was the pain that was the issue. Right. 707 00:35:22,587 --> 00:35:26,858 And so now she's excited about moving forward and addressing. 708 00:35:26,858 --> 00:35:29,127 She has a new career, a life. Absolutely. 709 00:35:29,127 --> 00:35:33,064 And one thing that I wanted to mention about the Neuro20 as well is that we're 710 00:35:33,631 --> 00:35:36,601 stimulating brain derived neurotrophic factor. 711 00:35:36,601 --> 00:35:39,270 So it's also beneficial 712 00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:42,273 for athletes that have been injured 713 00:35:42,306 --> 00:35:46,944 because we can actually put a program in for their running, for their throwing, 714 00:35:46,944 --> 00:35:51,349 whatever it is that they're doing to help reprogram the brain to bring back 715 00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:55,186 a more coordinated response. 716 00:35:55,186 --> 00:35:57,855 Post injury. I work, I work out three times a week. 717 00:35:57,855 --> 00:35:59,757 I wear that suit every time I workout. 718 00:35:59,757 --> 00:36:00,925 It has made a big difference. 719 00:36:00,925 --> 00:36:03,494 Made a big difference for my wife who had to drop at the end. 720 00:36:03,494 --> 00:36:04,095 Other issues. 721 00:36:04,095 --> 00:36:05,696 But thank you both for being here. 722 00:36:05,696 --> 00:36:07,398 Thank you for coming in from Colorado. 723 00:36:07,398 --> 00:36:10,301 Do the surgery, doctor, as always, is great to have you on. 724 00:36:10,301 --> 00:36:10,868 Thank you. 725 00:36:10,868 --> 00:36:13,804 You know, my closers show out I'm just going to tell you okay. 726 00:36:13,804 --> 00:36:15,506 You have to understand. 727 00:36:15,506 --> 00:36:18,476 You have to see this to believe it and understand what they can do. 728 00:36:18,476 --> 00:36:21,779 I don't care whether it's Parkinson's or it's pain management 729 00:36:21,879 --> 00:36:25,650 or it's drop foot or it's neuropathy or it's wound healing. 730 00:36:25,650 --> 00:36:28,352 I can go down the list of people I've had on this show 731 00:36:28,352 --> 00:36:31,322 and what they've been able to do, and it's remarkable. 732 00:36:31,322 --> 00:36:35,393 The clinic is BrandNewDayHealth.com BrandNewDayHealth.com. 733 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,163 I'm urging you, if you know anybody that is having these kinds of issues, 734 00:36:39,397 --> 00:36:40,898 reach out to them. 735 00:36:40,898 --> 00:36:42,166 Let come into town. 736 00:36:42,166 --> 00:36:44,135 If you live here in the Kansas City Metro, it's easy. 737 00:36:44,135 --> 00:36:45,603 But if you're not, if you're from, 738 00:36:45,603 --> 00:36:48,472 you know, Mississippi or Alabama, you're from California. 739 00:36:48,472 --> 00:36:52,243 Whatever the case may be, reach out to Doctor Ayres and Steve. 740 00:36:52,643 --> 00:36:54,979 Go through a process where they can tell you 741 00:36:54,979 --> 00:36:57,181 what your issues are and what they can do to help you. 742 00:36:57,181 --> 00:36:58,883 It may change your life. 743 00:36:58,883 --> 00:37:00,451 Thank you for listening to America's 744 00:37:00,451 --> 00:37:04,722 Healthcare Advocate Broadcasting here on the HRA Radio Network. 745 00:37:05,022 --> 00:37:06,224 Goodbye, America. 746 00:37:08,392 --> 00:37:15,766 You can. 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