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is going to be the next governor of the state of Kansas Philip Sarnecki.
Welcome back. Thanks, Cary, Great to be here again.
I hope to have you back a lot more.
I’d love to be back more, this is fun. Thank you.
Appreciate it. Yeah.
Well, you know, this is this is personal to me.
You and I have had a relationship. For what?
I don't know, 8 or 9 years now.
Since probably about decade. Yeah. Pretty close.
I know you pretty well. You. You know me pretty well.
So my purpose in doing this, you know, this is way out of my lane right?
This is not about health care, etc., but there are exceptions to the rule.
Kansas has had some problems.
I think a lot of us live in a cocoon, especially here in Johnson County,
where everything looks wonderful.
And we are we we think everything is great in the state.
In reality, when you travel around the state,
that's not necessarily what you see.
Now, I've spent a lot of time in Hays, Kansas.
Believe it or not, I did a full work, a full radio week in
Scott City, Kansas, a number of years ago for a farm convention.
I have I'm on the air in Wichita.
I'm on the air in Salina.
I'm on the air in Great Bend across the state on 15 radio stations.
So I think there's a message here that needs to get out.
So here's some things you probably don't know.
Kansas ranked overall 21st in sales tax.
26 and corporate tax.
26th in property tax.
And 23rd in overall taxes compared to Missouri,
Texas, Indiana, which are ranked seventh, 10th and 12th.
I know this is an issue you're concerned about.
We can't attract business.
And we'll talk about Star Bonds here in a little while,
and we can't seem to attract new business.
You and I talked about this the first time.
Why do you think that is, Philip?
Well, you just mentioned, the taxes.
And it's actually worse than that because when you
when you rank those were ranked against states like California
and New York and Hawaii and Connecticut and Washington.
But if you actually just take the states that, you know, our border states
that we compete with, maybe throw in Iowa and Arkansas,
we actually have the highest personal income tax rate of all those states.
We have the second highest corporate tax rate of all those states
and property taxes, which are not a problem in every state.
But there's certainly a problem here in Kansas
because our career politicians have failed to do anything about it.
We are about if you take those states and average them out, we're about 50%
higher on average with our property taxes versus all those states around us.
So, you know, why are we not attracting enough business?
Well, if you have the highest personal income tax rate, the second highest,
corporate tax rate, and you're overtaxing your people to death,
we are also overregulating our people to death.
As I go around the state, as I talk to legislators,
one of the one of the big issue with business owners
that when you speak to them
is how much regulation they have to deal with in the state of Kansas.
And so that's one of the things we would do.
What we're going to do on day
one is we're going to rip out a lot of those regulations.
And allow get the obstacles out of the way
to allow entrepreneurs and investors
and business leaders to want to come to Kansas
to build their businesses, across all across the state.
Yeah.
I have to believe that if you're able to do that, you're able to accomplish that.
I'm going in there and doing similar things to what Glenn Youngkin
did, what President Trump did
with their executive orders, wiping out a lot of the bureaucracy,
the nonsense that the ridiculous things that businesses have to go through.
And we both know because we're both private businessmen.
But on the other side of this long time. Right.
That that message is going to resonate.
We're going to get that.
You you look at what's going on in some of these states where they're taking,
what we're old, utility facilities or coal facilities,
turning them into gas and putting up AI projects next to them.
You look at some of the things that they're accomplishing.
You look at what just happened with the Kansas City Star Building.
That building got sold to a data center because they had the power there
to run the AI that they're going to do, because they ran printing
presses in there. Duh.
I mean, where around this state are there factories, opportunities
that are sitting there,
empty, vacant, that could be converted if somebody were in the forefront of this?
But it seems like nobody cares.
Well, I don't I don't know that nobody cares.
But I think people don't understand.
I mean, when you you're a politician, I mean, the people that I'm running
against, for example, have over 100 years in office between them.
Most of them have zero business experience.
What to speak of whatsoever.
And so it's just they don't understand it.
It's not the lens with which they look through.
And so I think one of the things, you know, as you know,
I've been doing for over 30
years is we've been building businesses, we've been creating jobs.
We've done it all across the state of Kansas.
And that's what we're going to do as governor.
I mean, it is one of my top priorities, if not my top priority.
Kansas needs to be the best place for businesses.
It needs to be the best place for families.
And I believe we can do that.
I really do.
But we have to come alongside and partner with the people of Kansas, partner
with the businesses of the state of Kansas to make this work for everybody,
because it's not working for everybody right now.
So that means that you're going
to concentrate on getting the message out to the business owners. Yes.
And to potential business owners that want to come into the state and investors.
We're open for business. That's right. That's what you're saying.
Yeah. And, you know, those are conversations.
Those are the conversations I've been having for over three decades.
Those are the conversations I'm really comfortable with.
But we also have to create an environment that attracts people here.
And we're going to have to do that by cutting regulations
and by reducing the tax burden, both on individuals,
because we have to have the labor force and then also on businesses as well.
When we come back from break.
I'm going to talk about what does it take to attract people who want to stay here.
So we have all these kids graduating from KU, K-State, go down the list.
Emporia, Pittsburg State, go down the list.
All these kids are great.
Do they stay here or do they leave?
We come back. We'll talk about that.
We'll also talk about how much did Kansas actually grow last year.
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So this was a little shocking to me.
When I was doing research for the show, Kansas grew by a whopping
1.4% last year and ranked 45th out of 50 states.
Philip. That's pathetic.
Yeah, it is pathetic.
I think I might have mentioned this, the first time I was on your show
a few months ago because it had just come out, you know, CNBC
ranked, our economy as a state 48th in the country.
They gave us an F.
Moody's had come out just after that and said
we were one of 20 states already in a recession.
And, you know, you talked about it.
If you kind of live in South Johnson County,
you feel a little insulated from that.
But we've been all over the state.
I mean, we've been from Goodland to Wamego
to Kingman Pratt, you know, all points in between.
Eldorado.
We go to Fort Scott, where I own businesses, by the way,
and Eldorado and Fort Scott.
But it it's, people are feeling it, and and people are hurting, and,
we have got to help,
as a state as state leadership and unfortunately, our career politicians
who are the people that I'm running against,
they're nice people, but they just don't understand what they're doing.
And that's why our economy is growing the way it is.
When you are overtaxing overburdening
overregulating people to death, that's what you get.
You get a growth rate of 1.4% and we're overspending.
We have a $26 billion
total budget in the state of Kansas, and Cary, 10.5 billion of
that's been added in the last seven years with no population growth.
So the same amount of people are taking on an additional
$10.5 billion of revenue.
Well, no wonder our taxes are the highest of every state around us.
And did I hear, is this correct or incorrect that we have added
the numbers 40 or 60,000 new state
employees in the state of Kansas since this particular governor?
I haven't heard that number, but what I can say is we have the third
most state employees per capita of every state in the country.
So only Alaska and South Dakota, which those kind of make sense because they're
smaller states have more state employees per capita than Kansas does.
So we're inefficient at every single layer you look at.
You couldn't run a business that way.
I couldn't run a business that way.
And that's why the people of the state of Kansas are suffering.
And we're a small state. We're a small state.
We're going to switch to Star Bonds here in a minute.
But if the Chief’s, you know, this deal with the Chiefs is done, Kansas will be
the smallest state in the Union population wise to have an NFL team.
Yet what do we you know, I hear you again.
You look around the bubble in Overland Park.
You look at Olathe, you look at Lenexa.
Sure looks wonderful.
Get out there
into these smaller communities and see what's happening on Main Street.
Go out there and look at the stores that are boarded up.
Look at the factories that have shut down.
Look at the jobs that are not there anymore.
And the only thing keeping a lot of those little towns alive
is agriculture, because we still have a dynamic
agriculture program in this country, everything that we do.
But there just doesn't seem to be support
to attract businesses in your, you know, you read stories
every day of the of of companies going into rural communities,
taking old manufacturing facilities, turning around, building
brand new businesses in them. President Trump's
got all these initiatives out there, all of these opportunities.
We're at 1.4% growth, Philip.
Yeah.
This isn't a lack of opportunity.
It's a lack of vision.
And it's a lack of execution.
And we need leaders in our state that can go out and they can attract
investors.
They can have conversations with business leaders and CEOs,
and they can create an environment, an infrastructure
that's attracting business, that's attracting jobs to the state of Kansas.
I mean, again, that's what you know, that's
what I've been doing for three decades.
And that's the exact same thing I'm going to do as governor.
But as I said, you know, going out of that last segment, how many of these bright
kids from KU, K-State, Pittsburg State, Emporia go down, Hays College,
how many of these kids coming out of these schools with degrees
in engineering and and architecture?
And and I know some of these kids. Okay.
You know, Ron Rowe’s kid is coming out of K-State with a degree and in engineering.
I mean, do you down the list, where are they going?
They're leaving here and going because the opportunities not here Philip.
In 2023.
We were the eighth most moved out of state in the country.
And the number one reason and cited by far, far and away number one
reason, 44% of the people said jobs couldn't find the job that I wanted.
So we're because of the overregulation,
because of the overtaxing, because of the overspending,
we are not creating the type of new jobs and new businesses.
We're not attracting the investment that we need.
We're not bringing enough companies to the state of Kansas.
And because of that, our economy is growing at one, four, 1.4%.
And, we are we're struggling.
We are.
That's why we're ranked 48 by CNBC and and on our economy.
So so let's switch gears.
We've got about three minutes left in this segment. Star Bonds.
I the Chiefs are here with a good deal.
Bad deal. No deal. It's done. Yeah.
What are your overall thoughts on Star Bonds?
We're one of what I think four states that actually offer something like this.
Yeah, they've been very successful in some cases.
I don't know. Is it a mixed bag?
What do you think?
Yeah, I, I think, I think here's the problem with star bonds in general.
There's been some, situations where they've worked very well.
There's been other situations where they haven't worked at all.
I think the problem is being are career politicians
because they have no business experience and no business background.
What they're doing is they're over relying on star bonds,
because when when you can't get enough new businesses started,
then that's the only option they have left to go to.
And then
they want to pat themselves on the back, you know, for the deal that they get.
And, you know, it was interesting in the debate last Friday,
which I encourage everybody to go out and watch. The one in Wichita.
Yeah, my my first political debate ever, but we thought.
You did pretty. Well. Well thank you.
We thought it went extremely well, especially for my first, one ever.
But one of the candidates mentioned that the bond holders,
he said, you know, I would never have the state bail them out.
The bond holders would be responsible for that on the star bonds.
But but the here's the problem with that.
That's not reality.
Because if you did that, your bond rating is going to tank
and all future bond issues, the amount of interest
that you're going to have to pay is going to skyrocket. Yeah.
Which is going to now overburden the state with interest payments
to the bondholders.
So no state in reality could ever allow that to happen.
And so that was just kind of an ignorant comment,
by the person on the, on the stage, again,
not understanding the economics and the business of these star bonds.
So I think if they're negotiated, well,
they could be used from time to time.
But the problem is our career politicians are way, way over relying on them.
And that's that's my big concern about it.
And that's why we have 1.4% growth in the state.
And it's not changing because that's not being recognized
and that's not being dealt with.
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In studio with me, Philip Sarnecki, candidate for Governor of Kansas.
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So how's the campaign going?
I know you're all over the place trying to catch up with you.
It's like herding chickens. Yeah. So?
So it's, Yeah.
Thanks for asking. It's going great.
I mean, we're about five and a half months in, you know, to this at,
you know, in some ways, I didn't know what to expect.
Obviously, I've never run for office before.
But you and Ronald Reagan. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, yeah, the funny story behind that, I know,
but, it's, you know, we're winning the game financially.
So one of the reasons Republicans lost in 2018, in a state that, you know,
we haven't had a Democratic senator in almost 100 years, or the longest
running state without a Democratic senator.
I didn't know.
That's interesting. Yeah, we have supermajorities in both houses.
I mean, Trump won the state three times by huge margins, but we've lost
the governor's seat, the CEO job to a Democrat in 2018 and 2022.
And one of the big reasons is because we got crushed financially.
The Republicans, did not do a good job of raising money,
and they weren't well capitalized, you know, a political campaign in
some ways is like a new business startup.
You have to be well-financed.
You have to be well capitalized.
So what?
December 31st was a big financial cut off in the state of Kansas.
The way they do it,
where all the candidates have to disclose their financial numbers.
And, not only were we number one of Republican and Democratic
candidates far and away number one at about $3 million, but that was
the most ever raised in the history of Kansas gubernatorial races.
By that date, December 31st.
So we have a huge cash advantage as we come into the new year.
There's an amazing grassroots
enthusiasm going on all over the the state, wherever we go.
People are so tired of politics as usual.
They're so tired of career politicians.
And I think the energy for somebody from the outside and a business leader,
you know, all, President Trump and you know what he's done
coming in from the outside or I think
you and I might have talked about this the first time I was on as well.
There's about a dozen governors, the who had never run for office,
you know, because essentially the executive branch, it's a CEO job.
You're the CEO of the state. It's really what it amounts to. Yeah.
And you need you know, I was at the RGA meeting a couple of,
a couple of months ago, and I listened to, a session with, you mentioned
Glenn Youngkin earlier who had never run for office, former governor of Virginia,
Bill Lee, governor of Tennessee, very successful business leader and CEO.
He had never run for office prior to running for governor of Tennessee.
And Tennessee's doing a fantastic job.
Well, yeah, we're.
Headquartered one Detego is headquartering one of our companies there. No.
That's right.
And then Mike Kehoe, of course, you know,
very successful car dealer for many, many years in Missouri.
And I was listening to this conversation that they were having the three of them.
It was like a roundtable discussion, and the whole entire conversation
was about international trade trips and recruiting investment
to their state, conversations with business, leaders and CEOs.
It was about their state economy.
And I just as I was listening to that and I was sitting there,
I thought to myself, how could anyone think that your governor
doesn't need very high levels of business acumen to do that
job well, because it is a massive part of the job.
And so we're there's this enthusiasm across the state.
And I'll give you one example.
You know, four months ago when I was on here,
I think the first time, I wasn't on social media,
you know, I didn't have, Facebook, Instagram, and X.
We kind of kicked you off. I'm proud to say the.
I think. That's right.
Yeah.
And, I, you know, I just, I had no, I didn't want to be on those.
And my, you know, my team said no, no, no,
you got to, you got to be on social media if you're running now.
Well, not only are we on now, we are up to I think it's we're getting close to
35,000 followers
in just about four months since we went up on social media.
We are of far and away the most followed candidate on social media.
So everybody go out and follow us if you're interested in the campaign.
And again, to me that just speaks to the grassroots enthusiasm
that's out there across the state to get something different.
We can't, you know, the Republicans in the state,
we can't go 12 years with a Democratic governor
and the people that we're running against, that I'm running against,
those are the same people that have lost the last two governor's races,
and we just can't do that. A third time.
There's not a vision there, Philip. No there isn’t a vision.
I pay close attention to politics in this state.
I moved out of Kansas City, Missouri, to get away from what I was dealing with
in Brookside, in Kansas City, in the state of Missouri, and moved to Kansas because
was a better environment for my family, my grandchildren, the whole nine yards.
But when I look at the state and I travel around the state
where I'm doing radio in different places, and I see these towns and these cities
where, you know, Wichita's a vibrant town doing very well.
Okay. Got 3 or 4 luxury car dealerships.
So Laird's going to Hays, going to Scott City,
going to some of these other places and see how well they're doing.
And why aren't they ripe
for companies to come in and do startups and opportunities?
Well, because a lot of what you just talked about, all. The.
Taxes and bureaucracy.
Yeah.
Overregulating overtaxing and overspending, I mean, are, you know,
regardless of what you might think of the Chiefs deal, here's one example.
You know, the leaders of our state
decided that they needed a luxury suite, paid
for by the taxpayers, in the new Chiefs Stadium.
Run that by me one more time.
This is this is not public knowledge, people.
This is breaking news in case. No, it's actually out there.
Okay, well, breaking news here.
Okay.
Yeah, they they negotiated in the deal.
A luxury suite for themselves, paid for by the taxpayers.
And, you know.
We'll.
We'll, we'll get extreme value out of that,
but I'll make sure that the taxpayers
are not paying for that when I'm governor, because it's just it's tone deaf.
I mean, when you look at the amount of spending I mentioned earlier,
$10.5 billion of new spending in the last seven years,
and that's what our Democratic governor has brought us.
But quite frankly, it's also
what our Republican leaders in the House and Senate have brought us to.
We are overspending and therefore, over taxing, and we're overregulating.
So we're not growing the economy.
As you talked about, 1.4% is anemic.
So, it just it really bothered me when I heard that,
that the taxpayers are going to be paying for that luxury suite.
And it's just, again, is that a huge number in a $26 billion budget?
Not. No, but that's not the problem.
The problem is these are the taxpayer dollars.
And, you know, I grew up, my father was a janitor.
My mom was a secretary.
I mean, every dollar is precious.
And we have to protect the taxpayers of the state of Kansas.
My father was a coal miner.
Yeah. Okay. So you know, I know. Every dollar.
Yeah. I said, you know, to me
that's just arrogant. I'm sorry.
That's the way I see it, that you think you that you think
you should have that privilege because you're in political office, right?
Really? Yeah.
Seriously, I totally agree.
No, I don't, I don't to me, that just.
Yes, you said it. It's tone deaf. Yeah.
In a time where we're not growing
and we're being taxed to death, now we're going to have this luxury.
Yeah. Oh. Tucked away. Tucked into the deal.
You get to pay for it. So yeah. Yeah.
There you go. Yeah. You probably won't get invited.
You get to pay for it.
I don't know if when I'm governor,
we'll figure out some creative ways on how to use it.
Oh, real value out of it.
But if Chiefs to start playing football again.
Like to have the last three years.
I'm sure there'll be a lot of high level executives.
Wouldn't mind coming to one of those games and talk about putting a deal together,
you know, to come into this state and do some work and,
you know the other thing is,
obviously we touched on it a minute ago before we go to break here is
we have to be able to keep these young people.
We've got some of the best schools in the country.
K state that architecture program is one of the best schools in the country.
You know, we've KU’s got some great.
KU Med, business school. Yeah.
Business schools I mean law schools.
Emporia Pittsburg State go down the list.
But those kids aren't staying here.
So we have to create these opportunities.
Yeah, we need jobs. We need businesses that are here.
We need jobs that will attract them.
And it's, it's something we'll get done as governor.
Yeah, I think it is something you'll get done.
And I think you and I think one of the reasons
why you're having this success you're
having with the campaign is it's a different message.
And I think people are ready for a very different message.
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How well are kids reading?
How well are they doing it at math.
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almost 9 or 10 years now.
This is somebody who you really do need to get to know if you want a new governor.
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and the highest taxes in the area.
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So Hunter your campaign manager dropped this on me as he came in the studio.
And frankly, I was shocked
because my grandchildren go to Blue Valley School District,
and it's one of the I think it's the number four
rated school district or 14th rated in the country or something.
It's ridiculous.
It's a fabulous program, great academic program, great athletic program.
That's not the case with State of Kansas, is it?
Philip?
No. The state of Kansas is,
struggling from an education standpoint, and there's a number of reasons for that.
But, just to give you a couple of examples, we are 15th in spending.
We're 40th in Nape scores.
We last year spent a little over $20,000 per
child, per student in the state of Kansas on education.
And yet we had the worst
test score outcomes that we've ever had for a state.
The worst? The worst.
So for the first time ever, our test scores were below the national average.
So in fourth grade, 70%, it's actually a little over 70% of our fourth
graders are not proficient in math or reading.
At a fourth grade level.
A little over 70%.
And so we are we are failing our children.
You know, I mentioned this at the debate, too.
I mean, it kind of goes without saying that your children are your future.
But if we don't fix this, Kansas won't have much of a future.
This has got to be a top priority to fix.
So I'll give you a couple of examples.
So one of the things where you see education succeeding
around the country in different states is charter schools.
And we have less than a dozen in the state of Kansas.
And one of the reasons for
that is the charter schools are approved by the districts.
And we need an independent authority,
an independent body that is approving those charter schools.
And then the other thing
that we need to do is we need to be able to scale the schools
that are doing the charter schools that are doing well.
So let's go replicate those that are doing well across the country
or across the state. Why are they doing well?
And then let's, you know, go and replicate that.
So that's one thing that we need to be doing.
The second thing is so the center for Education Reform, you so I mentioned
CNBC ranked as 48th on the economy as a state and gave us an F.
Well, the center for Education Reform for School Choice ranked us 50th.
They ranked US dead last in school choice and gave us an F as well.
So we're getting an F on the economy.
We're getting an F on school choice.
So we we don't have enough options.
So some people are thrilled with their schools and that's wonderful I.
Really is.
Sure.
Yeah, I grew up in a public school.
My wife grew up in a public school.
I mean, public schools, can be wonderful,
but they're not working for everyone. No.
And some people need different options.
They need different choices.
And parents need to be in control of that,
not state government bureaucracy.
And we need to give our parents more choice for those.
They do need more options, whether it's a charter school,
whether it's a private school, whether it's homeschooling.
And we need to empower the parents to be able to make those choices
for their children.
But we don't see that happening. We don't yet.
And and while communities like Johnson County with the highest property taxes,
and I know you and I both
pay them, okay, but I've got grandchildren go to school here.
So I'm like, okay, but you you get further out and into the rural communities
where they don't have the assets and they don't have the ability
or the quality of education for those kids declines dramatically.
Yet there are no alternatives.
They don't have a choice.
And a lot of in a lot of places, like in Wichita, Salina
and other places that have a choice there either, because, as you said,
and charters are interesting because I served on a charter school,
Urban Children's Leadership Academy in Kansas City.
And I remember
this is on the east side of Kansas City, mostly African-American population.
The parents that came to that school were so thankful
that their kids were going to school where they were in uniforms,
where there was discipline, where they learned it was a
I remember one mother's child was going to be kicked out of school,
and she came in and she begged us not kick him out of school.
I don't want him to have to do what I do for a living.
I don't want him to have to stick people.
She was a lab tech.
That's all she did.
She wanted him to have a future.
These kids aren't getting that future because we don't have that system.
Yeah, well, that goes back to my being able.
So there's an example.
I'm not familiar with that school, but that's an example of take
those schools that are doing well that are exceptional, and let's go scale
those around the state and create opportunities to do that
so we can, you know, we can empower the parents,
to have those kind of choices and options for their children.
So how do you answer this issue when people say, well, you're taking money
away from the rural school districts, they won't be able to survive?
Well, first of all, if you look at the data, it's not true.
The school school spending is continues to increase.
It continues to go up and up.
And so we're not doing that again.
We're spending over $20,000 per student.
That's what the taxpayers are spending. That's a lot of money.
Per student per year.
That's what
we spent last year in the state of Kansas to, you know, to educate our children.
Part of the problem
is that where the money's going, it's an allocation of resources.
It's not a money issue.
It's an allocation issue.
Way too much money going to bureaucracy.
I could go through.
We don't have time, but I could go through the whole, educational layers
in the state as opposed to getting the money into the classroom.
Exactly.
Getting the money to the teachers and getting the money to the students.
And how much of that revolves
around the teachers unions and their influence in the state?
A big part of it, and I don't quite.
No question. No question. That then.
And when you get career politicians that are bought and paid for,
you know, that's one of the nice things about,
you know, me being an outsider is I'm not beholden to anybody.
No you're not.
I don't owe anything, anything, anyone, anything for a political career.
Because I've never had a political career like you.
And so I can truly come at this with a different lens and,
with a different, at it from a different angle than what,
all the folks that I'm running against and the way that they approach it.
And I think you do. Well, thank you.
And I think you’re probably going to win this race.
Well thank you. Humble opinion. It's going very well.
It certainly is.
Thank you for coming on to of course.
Now I leave you with this thought from Albert Einstein,
the one who follows the crowd, they usually get no further than the crowd.
The one who walks alone is likely to find himself in places no one has ever been.
I would have to say that
probably applies to the man sitting across me in this studio today.
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