1 00:00:01,501 --> 00:00:05,538 And now America's Healthcare Advocate, Cary Hall. 2 00:00:06,139 --> 00:00:06,873 Hello, America. 3 00:00:06,873 --> 00:00:08,174 Welcome to America's Healthcare 4 00:00:08,174 --> 00:00:11,311 Advocate show broadcasting coast to coast across the USA. 5 00:00:11,511 --> 00:00:14,814 Here on the HIA Radio Network, you can find out more about us 6 00:00:14,814 --> 00:00:18,651 by going to the website AmericasHealthcareAdvocate.com. 7 00:00:18,752 --> 00:00:21,755 You know, I got an email from a doctor the other day asking for some help. 8 00:00:21,821 --> 00:00:23,189 We gave it to her. 9 00:00:23,189 --> 00:00:24,357 She was very happy with that. 10 00:00:24,357 --> 00:00:28,895 Referred her over to the lovely Carolee Steele at RPS Benefits by Design, 11 00:00:28,895 --> 00:00:32,132 and she was able to get her into a program for health benefits. 12 00:00:32,165 --> 00:00:33,233 She was very happy with. 13 00:00:33,233 --> 00:00:37,003 By the way, if you are looking for help with ACA, Obamacare 14 00:00:37,003 --> 00:00:41,141 or any other type of health insurance, you can reach out to the good folks 15 00:00:41,141 --> 00:00:46,046 over at RPS Benefits by Design 16 00:00:46,046 --> 00:00:49,549 877-385-2224. 17 00:00:49,783 --> 00:00:54,020 Maria Ahlers is wonderful at working on employer sponsored health care. 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,256 She can do some pretty amazing things. 19 00:00:56,256 --> 00:01:00,026 Give them a call 877-385-2224. 20 00:01:00,326 --> 00:01:04,097 Joining me in studio again, I am pleased to say the man who I hope 21 00:01:04,097 --> 00:01:07,467 is going to be the next governor of the state of Kansas Philip Sarnecki. 22 00:01:07,467 --> 00:01:09,969 Welcome back. Thanks, Cary, Great to be here again. 23 00:01:09,969 --> 00:01:11,371 I hope to have you back a lot more. 24 00:01:11,371 --> 00:01:14,074 I’d love to be back more, this is fun. Thank you. 25 00:01:14,074 --> 00:01:14,808 Appreciate it. Yeah. 26 00:01:14,808 --> 00:01:18,178 Well, you know, this is this is personal to me. 27 00:01:18,511 --> 00:01:20,280 You and I have had a relationship. For what? 28 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:21,714 I don't know, 8 or 9 years now. 29 00:01:21,714 --> 00:01:24,184 Since probably about decade. Yeah. Pretty close. 30 00:01:24,184 --> 00:01:26,686 I know you pretty well. You. You know me pretty well. 31 00:01:28,188 --> 00:01:31,491 So my purpose in doing this, you know, this is way out of my lane right? 32 00:01:31,524 --> 00:01:35,128 This is not about health care, etc., but there are exceptions to the rule. 33 00:01:36,029 --> 00:01:37,630 Kansas has had some problems. 34 00:01:37,630 --> 00:01:41,401 I think a lot of us live in a cocoon, especially here in Johnson County, 35 00:01:41,401 --> 00:01:42,635 where everything looks wonderful. 36 00:01:42,635 --> 00:01:45,638 And we are we we think everything is great in the state. 37 00:01:45,772 --> 00:01:47,841 In reality, when you travel around the state, 38 00:01:47,841 --> 00:01:49,509 that's not necessarily what you see. 39 00:01:49,509 --> 00:01:51,511 Now, I've spent a lot of time in Hays, Kansas. 40 00:01:51,511 --> 00:01:54,981 Believe it or not, I did a full work, a full radio week in 41 00:01:54,981 --> 00:01:58,651 Scott City, Kansas, a number of years ago for a farm convention. 42 00:01:58,818 --> 00:02:01,187 I have I'm on the air in Wichita. 43 00:02:01,187 --> 00:02:02,589 I'm on the air in Salina. 44 00:02:02,589 --> 00:02:07,026 I'm on the air in Great Bend across the state on 15 radio stations. 45 00:02:07,227 --> 00:02:10,163 So I think there's a message here that needs to get out. 46 00:02:10,163 --> 00:02:11,965 So here's some things you probably don't know. 47 00:02:13,032 --> 00:02:17,003 Kansas ranked overall 21st in sales tax. 48 00:02:17,137 --> 00:02:19,172 26 and corporate tax. 49 00:02:19,172 --> 00:02:21,241 26th in property tax. 50 00:02:21,241 --> 00:02:25,178 And 23rd in overall taxes compared to Missouri, 51 00:02:25,178 --> 00:02:28,982 Texas, Indiana, which are ranked seventh, 10th and 12th. 52 00:02:29,349 --> 00:02:32,785 I know this is an issue you're concerned about. 53 00:02:32,852 --> 00:02:34,921 We can't attract business. 54 00:02:34,921 --> 00:02:37,590 And we'll talk about Star Bonds here in a little while, 55 00:02:37,590 --> 00:02:40,293 and we can't seem to attract new business. 56 00:02:40,293 --> 00:02:42,362 You and I talked about this the first time. 57 00:02:42,362 --> 00:02:44,531 Why do you think that is, Philip? 58 00:02:44,531 --> 00:02:47,267 Well, you just mentioned, the taxes. 59 00:02:47,267 --> 00:02:50,069 And it's actually worse than that because when you 60 00:02:50,069 --> 00:02:53,940 when you rank those were ranked against states like California 61 00:02:53,940 --> 00:02:58,111 and New York and Hawaii and Connecticut and Washington. 62 00:02:58,311 --> 00:03:02,482 But if you actually just take the states that, you know, our border states 63 00:03:02,982 --> 00:03:05,985 that we compete with, maybe throw in Iowa and Arkansas, 64 00:03:06,085 --> 00:03:10,490 we actually have the highest personal income tax rate of all those states. 65 00:03:10,690 --> 00:03:13,726 We have the second highest corporate tax rate of all those states 66 00:03:13,993 --> 00:03:17,664 and property taxes, which are not a problem in every state. 67 00:03:17,931 --> 00:03:20,400 But there's certainly a problem here in Kansas 68 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,403 because our career politicians have failed to do anything about it. 69 00:03:23,503 --> 00:03:27,674 We are about if you take those states and average them out, we're about 50% 70 00:03:27,674 --> 00:03:32,812 higher on average with our property taxes versus all those states around us. 71 00:03:33,079 --> 00:03:35,782 So, you know, why are we not attracting enough business? 72 00:03:35,782 --> 00:03:39,619 Well, if you have the highest personal income tax rate, the second highest, 73 00:03:39,819 --> 00:03:43,890 corporate tax rate, and you're overtaxing your people to death, 74 00:03:44,157 --> 00:03:47,994 we are also overregulating our people to death. 75 00:03:48,294 --> 00:03:51,297 As I go around the state, as I talk to legislators, 76 00:03:51,331 --> 00:03:54,934 one of the one of the big issue with business owners 77 00:03:54,934 --> 00:03:56,502 that when you speak to them 78 00:03:56,502 --> 00:03:59,806 is how much regulation they have to deal with in the state of Kansas. 79 00:04:00,073 --> 00:04:01,608 And so that's one of the things we would do. 80 00:04:01,608 --> 00:04:02,508 What we're going to do on day 81 00:04:02,508 --> 00:04:05,912 one is we're going to rip out a lot of those regulations. 82 00:04:06,179 --> 00:04:09,215 And allow get the obstacles out of the way 83 00:04:09,215 --> 00:04:12,218 to allow entrepreneurs and investors 84 00:04:12,285 --> 00:04:15,955 and business leaders to want to come to Kansas 85 00:04:16,122 --> 00:04:19,325 to build their businesses, across all across the state. 86 00:04:19,592 --> 00:04:19,792 Yeah. 87 00:04:19,792 --> 00:04:23,863 I have to believe that if you're able to do that, you're able to accomplish that. 88 00:04:23,863 --> 00:04:27,634 I'm going in there and doing similar things to what Glenn Youngkin 89 00:04:27,634 --> 00:04:29,302 did, what President Trump did 90 00:04:29,302 --> 00:04:33,172 with their executive orders, wiping out a lot of the bureaucracy, 91 00:04:33,573 --> 00:04:37,577 the nonsense that the ridiculous things that businesses have to go through. 92 00:04:38,077 --> 00:04:41,080 And we both know because we're both private businessmen. 93 00:04:41,114 --> 00:04:43,516 But on the other side of this long time. Right. 94 00:04:43,516 --> 00:04:45,451 That that message is going to resonate. 95 00:04:45,451 --> 00:04:46,052 We're going to get that. 96 00:04:46,052 --> 00:04:49,522 You you look at what's going on in some of these states where they're taking, 97 00:04:50,223 --> 00:04:53,693 what we're old, utility facilities or coal facilities, 98 00:04:53,693 --> 00:04:57,196 turning them into gas and putting up AI projects next to them. 99 00:04:57,196 --> 00:04:59,532 You look at some of the things that they're accomplishing. 100 00:04:59,532 --> 00:05:01,868 You look at what just happened with the Kansas City Star Building. 101 00:05:01,868 --> 00:05:05,905 That building got sold to a data center because they had the power there 102 00:05:06,205 --> 00:05:09,876 to run the AI that they're going to do, because they ran printing 103 00:05:09,876 --> 00:05:12,378 presses in there. Duh. 104 00:05:12,378 --> 00:05:16,349 I mean, where around this state are there factories, opportunities 105 00:05:16,349 --> 00:05:17,083 that are sitting there, 106 00:05:17,083 --> 00:05:21,187 empty, vacant, that could be converted if somebody were in the forefront of this? 107 00:05:21,321 --> 00:05:23,623 But it seems like nobody cares. 108 00:05:23,623 --> 00:05:26,359 Well, I don't I don't know that nobody cares. 109 00:05:26,359 --> 00:05:28,261 But I think people don't understand. 110 00:05:28,261 --> 00:05:31,230 I mean, when you you're a politician, I mean, the people that I'm running 111 00:05:31,230 --> 00:05:35,068 against, for example, have over 100 years in office between them. 112 00:05:35,868 --> 00:05:38,671 Most of them have zero business experience. 113 00:05:38,671 --> 00:05:40,707 What to speak of whatsoever. 114 00:05:40,707 --> 00:05:43,076 And so it's just they don't understand it. 115 00:05:43,076 --> 00:05:46,079 It's not the lens with which they look through. 116 00:05:46,312 --> 00:05:49,382 And so I think one of the things, you know, as you know, 117 00:05:49,382 --> 00:05:50,750 I've been doing for over 30 118 00:05:50,750 --> 00:05:54,854 years is we've been building businesses, we've been creating jobs. 119 00:05:54,854 --> 00:05:57,223 We've done it all across the state of Kansas. 120 00:05:58,291 --> 00:05:59,926 And that's what we're going to do as governor. 121 00:05:59,926 --> 00:06:04,030 I mean, it is one of my top priorities, if not my top priority. 122 00:06:04,397 --> 00:06:07,800 Kansas needs to be the best place for businesses. 123 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,203 It needs to be the best place for families. 124 00:06:10,203 --> 00:06:11,471 And I believe we can do that. 125 00:06:11,471 --> 00:06:12,605 I really do. 126 00:06:12,605 --> 00:06:17,210 But we have to come alongside and partner with the people of Kansas, partner 127 00:06:17,210 --> 00:06:21,481 with the businesses of the state of Kansas to make this work for everybody, 128 00:06:21,481 --> 00:06:23,716 because it's not working for everybody right now. 129 00:06:23,716 --> 00:06:25,284 So that means that you're going 130 00:06:25,284 --> 00:06:29,222 to concentrate on getting the message out to the business owners. Yes. 131 00:06:29,222 --> 00:06:33,593 And to potential business owners that want to come into the state and investors. 132 00:06:33,593 --> 00:06:36,062 We're open for business. That's right. That's what you're saying. 133 00:06:36,062 --> 00:06:38,631 Yeah. And, you know, those are conversations. 134 00:06:38,631 --> 00:06:41,634 Those are the conversations I've been having for over three decades. 135 00:06:41,634 --> 00:06:44,637 Those are the conversations I'm really comfortable with. 136 00:06:44,670 --> 00:06:49,675 But we also have to create an environment that attracts people here. 137 00:06:49,876 --> 00:06:53,045 And we're going to have to do that by cutting regulations 138 00:06:53,246 --> 00:06:57,049 and by reducing the tax burden, both on individuals, 139 00:06:57,216 --> 00:07:01,621 because we have to have the labor force and then also on businesses as well. 140 00:07:02,088 --> 00:07:03,189 When we come back from break. 141 00:07:03,189 --> 00:07:07,560 I'm going to talk about what does it take to attract people who want to stay here. 142 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,464 So we have all these kids graduating from KU, K-State, go down the list. 143 00:07:11,798 --> 00:07:14,700 Emporia, Pittsburg State, go down the list. 144 00:07:14,700 --> 00:07:15,835 All these kids are great. 145 00:07:15,835 --> 00:07:18,004 Do they stay here or do they leave? 146 00:07:18,004 --> 00:07:19,705 We come back. We'll talk about that. 147 00:07:19,705 --> 00:07:23,776 We'll also talk about how much did Kansas actually grow last year. 148 00:07:24,043 --> 00:07:26,446 You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate 149 00:07:26,446 --> 00:07:29,449 broadcasting here on the HIA Radio Network. 150 00:07:29,482 --> 00:07:31,250 Coast to coast across USA. 151 00:07:31,250 --> 00:07:34,053 If you want to learn more about Philip, go to the website. 152 00:07:34,053 --> 00:07:37,890 PhilipSarnecki.org. 153 00:07:38,090 --> 00:07:40,660 Great website you that's on WinRed. 154 00:07:40,660 --> 00:07:41,060 okay. 155 00:07:41,060 --> 00:07:44,130 And also on Facebook it's Philip Sarnecki Governor. 156 00:07:44,430 --> 00:07:46,466 A lot of information up there about the debates. 157 00:07:46,466 --> 00:07:48,301 He just did a lot of other information. 158 00:07:48,301 --> 00:07:51,170 If you want to donate WinRed is a great way to do that. 159 00:07:51,170 --> 00:07:52,638 That's one of the ways I do it. 160 00:07:52,638 --> 00:07:54,807 And it's certainly an easy way that you can do it. 161 00:07:54,807 --> 00:07:56,576 We'll be right back after the break. 162 00:07:56,576 --> 00:07:58,811 Listening to America's Healthcare Advocate. 163 00:07:58,811 --> 00:07:59,612 Stay right there. 164 00:08:11,657 --> 00:08:12,358 Welcome back. 165 00:08:12,358 --> 00:08:16,229 You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate show broadcasting coast to coast 166 00:08:16,229 --> 00:08:20,833 to coast USA here on the HIA Radio Network. 167 00:08:20,900 --> 00:08:24,804 I want to welcome KIUL 1240-AM in Garden City, Kansas. 168 00:08:24,837 --> 00:08:26,472 One of our newest affiliates. 169 00:08:26,472 --> 00:08:29,141 Happy to have you all on board out 170 00:08:29,141 --> 00:08:30,910 in Garden City/ In studio with Philip Sarnecki. 171 00:08:30,910 --> 00:08:33,246 He is candidate for the Governor of Kansas 172 00:08:33,246 --> 00:08:36,782 and we are talking about all things Kansas if you're interested 173 00:08:36,782 --> 00:08:38,718 in learning about him. And there's a lot to learn. 174 00:08:38,718 --> 00:08:42,955 Believe me, if you go up and research him about who he is, the businesses 175 00:08:42,989 --> 00:08:44,457 he’s has, the successes he's had. 176 00:08:44,457 --> 00:08:46,425 What his vision is for this state. 177 00:08:46,425 --> 00:08:47,426 Go to the website. 178 00:08:47,426 --> 00:08:50,763 PhilipSarnecki.org. 179 00:08:50,796 --> 00:08:55,134 You can also donate rather on WinRed if you want to do that as well. 180 00:08:55,334 --> 00:08:58,137 But PhilipSarnecki.org is the website. 181 00:08:58,137 --> 00:09:00,106 So this was a little shocking to me. 182 00:09:00,106 --> 00:09:04,710 When I was doing research for the show, Kansas grew by a whopping 183 00:09:04,710 --> 00:09:09,482 1.4% last year and ranked 45th out of 50 states. 184 00:09:09,982 --> 00:09:12,718 Philip. That's pathetic. 185 00:09:12,718 --> 00:09:13,719 Yeah, it is pathetic. 186 00:09:13,719 --> 00:09:16,822 I think I might have mentioned this, the first time I was on your show 187 00:09:16,822 --> 00:09:20,293 a few months ago because it had just come out, you know, CNBC 188 00:09:20,293 --> 00:09:23,563 ranked, our economy as a state 48th in the country. 189 00:09:23,563 --> 00:09:25,464 They gave us an F. 190 00:09:25,464 --> 00:09:28,000 Moody's had come out just after that and said 191 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,003 we were one of 20 states already in a recession. 192 00:09:31,137 --> 00:09:32,672 And, you know, you talked about it. 193 00:09:32,672 --> 00:09:34,540 If you kind of live in South Johnson County, 194 00:09:34,540 --> 00:09:36,475 you feel a little insulated from that. 195 00:09:36,475 --> 00:09:37,710 But we've been all over the state. 196 00:09:37,710 --> 00:09:39,946 I mean, we've been from Goodland to Wamego 197 00:09:39,946 --> 00:09:43,516 to Kingman Pratt, you know, all points in between. 198 00:09:43,816 --> 00:09:44,283 Eldorado. 199 00:09:44,283 --> 00:09:47,053 We go to Fort Scott, where I own businesses, by the way, 200 00:09:47,053 --> 00:09:48,254 and Eldorado and Fort Scott. 201 00:09:48,254 --> 00:09:54,026 But it it's, people are feeling it, and and people are hurting, and, 202 00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:57,463 we have got to help, 203 00:09:57,463 --> 00:10:02,435 as a state as state leadership and unfortunately, our career politicians 204 00:10:02,735 --> 00:10:04,570 who are the people that I'm running against, 205 00:10:04,570 --> 00:10:07,540 they're nice people, but they just don't understand what they're doing. 206 00:10:07,540 --> 00:10:10,443 And that's why our economy is growing the way it is. 207 00:10:10,443 --> 00:10:13,379 When you are overtaxing overburdening 208 00:10:13,379 --> 00:10:17,283 overregulating people to death, that's what you get. 209 00:10:17,283 --> 00:10:22,088 You get a growth rate of 1.4% and we're overspending. 210 00:10:22,855 --> 00:10:25,691 We have a $26 billion 211 00:10:25,691 --> 00:10:29,962 total budget in the state of Kansas, and Cary, 10.5 billion of 212 00:10:29,962 --> 00:10:34,266 that's been added in the last seven years with no population growth. 213 00:10:34,266 --> 00:10:37,970 So the same amount of people are taking on an additional 214 00:10:38,137 --> 00:10:41,040 $10.5 billion of revenue. 215 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,276 Well, no wonder our taxes are the highest of every state around us. 216 00:10:44,276 --> 00:10:47,580 And did I hear, is this correct or incorrect that we have added 217 00:10:49,015 --> 00:10:52,818 the numbers 40 or 60,000 new state 218 00:10:52,818 --> 00:10:56,822 employees in the state of Kansas since this particular governor? 219 00:10:56,822 --> 00:11:00,993 I haven't heard that number, but what I can say is we have the third 220 00:11:00,993 --> 00:11:05,264 most state employees per capita of every state in the country. 221 00:11:05,264 --> 00:11:09,869 So only Alaska and South Dakota, which those kind of make sense because they're 222 00:11:09,869 --> 00:11:14,640 smaller states have more state employees per capita than Kansas does. 223 00:11:14,940 --> 00:11:18,678 So we're inefficient at every single layer you look at. 224 00:11:18,678 --> 00:11:20,046 You couldn't run a business that way. 225 00:11:20,046 --> 00:11:21,847 I couldn't run a business that way. 226 00:11:21,847 --> 00:11:24,450 And that's why the people of the state of Kansas are suffering. 227 00:11:24,450 --> 00:11:27,019 And we're a small state. We're a small state. 228 00:11:27,019 --> 00:11:28,688 We're going to switch to Star Bonds here in a minute. 229 00:11:28,688 --> 00:11:32,725 But if the Chief’s, you know, this deal with the Chiefs is done, Kansas will be 230 00:11:32,725 --> 00:11:36,595 the smallest state in the Union population wise to have an NFL team. 231 00:11:37,196 --> 00:11:40,066 Yet what do we you know, I hear you again. 232 00:11:40,066 --> 00:11:41,867 You look around the bubble in Overland Park. 233 00:11:41,867 --> 00:11:43,669 You look at Olathe, you look at Lenexa. 234 00:11:43,669 --> 00:11:44,970 Sure looks wonderful. 235 00:11:44,970 --> 00:11:45,805 Get out there 236 00:11:45,805 --> 00:11:49,141 into these smaller communities and see what's happening on Main Street. 237 00:11:49,442 --> 00:11:51,577 Go out there and look at the stores that are boarded up. 238 00:11:51,577 --> 00:11:53,179 Look at the factories that have shut down. 239 00:11:53,179 --> 00:11:55,081 Look at the jobs that are not there anymore. 240 00:11:55,081 --> 00:11:58,384 And the only thing keeping a lot of those little towns alive 241 00:11:58,818 --> 00:12:01,420 is agriculture, because we still have a dynamic 242 00:12:01,420 --> 00:12:04,557 agriculture program in this country, everything that we do. 243 00:12:04,857 --> 00:12:07,860 But there just doesn't seem to be support 244 00:12:07,927 --> 00:12:11,497 to attract businesses in your, you know, you read stories 245 00:12:11,497 --> 00:12:14,700 every day of the of of companies going into rural communities, 246 00:12:14,700 --> 00:12:18,037 taking old manufacturing facilities, turning around, building 247 00:12:18,037 --> 00:12:20,439 brand new businesses in them. President Trump's 248 00:12:20,439 --> 00:12:23,409 got all these initiatives out there, all of these opportunities. 249 00:12:23,409 --> 00:12:25,878 We're at 1.4% growth, Philip. 250 00:12:25,878 --> 00:12:26,312 Yeah. 251 00:12:26,312 --> 00:12:29,048 This isn't a lack of opportunity. 252 00:12:29,048 --> 00:12:30,916 It's a lack of vision. 253 00:12:30,916 --> 00:12:33,018 And it's a lack of execution. 254 00:12:33,018 --> 00:12:37,456 And we need leaders in our state that can go out and they can attract 255 00:12:37,456 --> 00:12:38,524 investors. 256 00:12:38,524 --> 00:12:42,595 They can have conversations with business leaders and CEOs, 257 00:12:42,795 --> 00:12:47,399 and they can create an environment, an infrastructure 258 00:12:47,399 --> 00:12:51,637 that's attracting business, that's attracting jobs to the state of Kansas. 259 00:12:52,004 --> 00:12:53,305 I mean, again, that's what you know, that's 260 00:12:53,305 --> 00:12:54,540 what I've been doing for three decades. 261 00:12:54,540 --> 00:12:56,675 And that's the exact same thing I'm going to do as governor. 262 00:12:56,675 --> 00:13:00,379 But as I said, you know, going out of that last segment, how many of these bright 263 00:13:00,379 --> 00:13:05,818 kids from KU, K-State, Pittsburg State, Emporia go down, Hays College, 264 00:13:06,385 --> 00:13:09,121 how many of these kids coming out of these schools with degrees 265 00:13:09,121 --> 00:13:12,424 in engineering and and architecture? 266 00:13:12,424 --> 00:13:15,361 And and I know some of these kids. Okay. 267 00:13:15,361 --> 00:13:19,999 You know, Ron Rowe’s kid is coming out of K-State with a degree and in engineering. 268 00:13:19,999 --> 00:13:22,835 I mean, do you down the list, where are they going? 269 00:13:22,835 --> 00:13:27,206 They're leaving here and going because the opportunities not here Philip. 270 00:13:27,206 --> 00:13:29,041 In 2023. 271 00:13:29,041 --> 00:13:33,312 We were the eighth most moved out of state in the country. 272 00:13:33,646 --> 00:13:37,883 And the number one reason and cited by far, far and away number one 273 00:13:37,883 --> 00:13:42,288 reason, 44% of the people said jobs couldn't find the job that I wanted. 274 00:13:42,555 --> 00:13:45,558 So we're because of the overregulation, 275 00:13:45,624 --> 00:13:48,861 because of the overtaxing, because of the overspending, 276 00:13:49,061 --> 00:13:53,432 we are not creating the type of new jobs and new businesses. 277 00:13:53,432 --> 00:13:56,202 We're not attracting the investment that we need. 278 00:13:56,202 --> 00:13:59,205 We're not bringing enough companies to the state of Kansas. 279 00:13:59,238 --> 00:14:03,509 And because of that, our economy is growing at one, four, 1.4%. 280 00:14:03,876 --> 00:14:06,212 And, we are we're struggling. 281 00:14:06,212 --> 00:14:06,612 We are. 282 00:14:06,612 --> 00:14:10,583 That's why we're ranked 48 by CNBC and and on our economy. 283 00:14:10,683 --> 00:14:12,017 So so let's switch gears. 284 00:14:12,017 --> 00:14:14,753 We've got about three minutes left in this segment. Star Bonds. 285 00:14:14,753 --> 00:14:17,957 I the Chiefs are here with a good deal. 286 00:14:17,957 --> 00:14:20,359 Bad deal. No deal. It's done. Yeah. 287 00:14:20,359 --> 00:14:23,295 What are your overall thoughts on Star Bonds? 288 00:14:23,295 --> 00:14:26,732 We're one of what I think four states that actually offer something like this. 289 00:14:26,732 --> 00:14:29,602 Yeah, they've been very successful in some cases. 290 00:14:29,602 --> 00:14:30,970 I don't know. Is it a mixed bag? 291 00:14:30,970 --> 00:14:32,071 What do you think? 292 00:14:32,071 --> 00:14:35,941 Yeah, I, I think, I think here's the problem with star bonds in general. 293 00:14:36,141 --> 00:14:39,678 There's been some, situations where they've worked very well. 294 00:14:39,678 --> 00:14:42,681 There's been other situations where they haven't worked at all. 295 00:14:42,781 --> 00:14:46,218 I think the problem is being are career politicians 296 00:14:46,218 --> 00:14:49,221 because they have no business experience and no business background. 297 00:14:49,221 --> 00:14:53,359 What they're doing is they're over relying on star bonds, 298 00:14:53,726 --> 00:14:57,663 because when when you can't get enough new businesses started, 299 00:14:58,197 --> 00:15:01,367 then that's the only option they have left to go to. 300 00:15:01,634 --> 00:15:02,034 And then 301 00:15:02,034 --> 00:15:05,504 they want to pat themselves on the back, you know, for the deal that they get. 302 00:15:05,804 --> 00:15:09,341 And, you know, it was interesting in the debate last Friday, 303 00:15:09,341 --> 00:15:11,543 which I encourage everybody to go out and watch. The one in Wichita. 304 00:15:11,543 --> 00:15:14,213 Yeah, my my first political debate ever, but we thought. 305 00:15:14,213 --> 00:15:15,681 You did pretty. Well. Well thank you. 306 00:15:15,681 --> 00:15:18,851 We thought it went extremely well, especially for my first, one ever. 307 00:15:18,851 --> 00:15:22,922 But one of the candidates mentioned that the bond holders, 308 00:15:23,088 --> 00:15:26,458 he said, you know, I would never have the state bail them out. 309 00:15:27,092 --> 00:15:30,963 The bond holders would be responsible for that on the star bonds. 310 00:15:31,196 --> 00:15:33,599 But but the here's the problem with that. 311 00:15:33,599 --> 00:15:35,234 That's not reality. 312 00:15:35,234 --> 00:15:39,805 Because if you did that, your bond rating is going to tank 313 00:15:40,239 --> 00:15:43,175 and all future bond issues, the amount of interest 314 00:15:43,175 --> 00:15:45,911 that you're going to have to pay is going to skyrocket. Yeah. 315 00:15:45,911 --> 00:15:49,748 Which is going to now overburden the state with interest payments 316 00:15:49,949 --> 00:15:50,983 to the bondholders. 317 00:15:50,983 --> 00:15:54,753 So no state in reality could ever allow that to happen. 318 00:15:55,054 --> 00:15:58,057 And so that was just kind of an ignorant comment, 319 00:15:58,457 --> 00:16:01,360 by the person on the, on the stage, again, 320 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:06,732 not understanding the economics and the business of these star bonds. 321 00:16:06,732 --> 00:16:09,568 So I think if they're negotiated, well, 322 00:16:10,936 --> 00:16:13,005 they could be used from time to time. 323 00:16:13,005 --> 00:16:17,977 But the problem is our career politicians are way, way over relying on them. 324 00:16:17,977 --> 00:16:19,712 And that's that's my big concern about it. 325 00:16:19,712 --> 00:16:22,681 And that's why we have 1.4% growth in the state. 326 00:16:22,681 --> 00:16:25,651 And it's not changing because that's not being recognized 327 00:16:25,684 --> 00:16:27,353 and that's not being dealt with. 328 00:16:27,353 --> 00:16:32,524 If you want information go to the website PhilipSarnecki.org 329 00:16:32,691 --> 00:16:35,627 also WinRed if you want to go up there a lot of information up there. 330 00:16:35,627 --> 00:16:37,229 You make a donation. 331 00:16:37,229 --> 00:16:38,030 We'll be right back. 332 00:16:38,030 --> 00:16:40,899 After the break we're going to ask Philip how's it going? 333 00:16:40,899 --> 00:16:42,668 He's been out on the campaign trail. 334 00:16:42,668 --> 00:16:45,337 How's it going? We'll know more when we come back from the break. 335 00:16:45,337 --> 00:16:48,540 You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate broadcasting 336 00:16:48,540 --> 00:16:52,911 here on the HIA Radio Network coast to coast across USA. 337 00:16:52,945 --> 00:16:53,779 Don't go anywhere. 338 00:17:05,424 --> 00:17:06,158 Welcome back. 339 00:17:06,158 --> 00:17:09,695 You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate show broadcasting coast 340 00:17:09,695 --> 00:17:13,465 to coast to coast USA here on the HIA Radio Network. 341 00:17:13,465 --> 00:17:14,666 My producers today, Mr.. 342 00:17:14,666 --> 00:17:17,970 David Thiessen behind the cameras, who puts all these shows together, 343 00:17:17,970 --> 00:17:20,973 our 16 podcast channels and our YouTube channel. 344 00:17:20,973 --> 00:17:24,476 By the way, 623,000 views. 345 00:17:24,476 --> 00:17:25,477 Thanks to all of you. 346 00:17:25,477 --> 00:17:27,513 Between podcast and YouTube. 347 00:17:27,513 --> 00:17:29,815 We're really appreciate all of that out there. 348 00:17:29,815 --> 00:17:34,920 In addition to all of you listening across the country on our 241 radio affiliates. 349 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,321 So thank you all very much. 350 00:17:36,321 --> 00:17:40,259 In studio with me, Philip Sarnecki, candidate for Governor of Kansas. 351 00:17:40,392 --> 00:17:45,030 His website is PhilipSarnecki.org. 352 00:17:45,297 --> 00:17:47,633 So how's the campaign going? 353 00:17:47,633 --> 00:17:51,303 I know you're all over the place trying to catch up with you. 354 00:17:51,303 --> 00:17:53,305 It's like herding chickens. Yeah. So? 355 00:17:53,305 --> 00:17:54,773 So it's, Yeah. 356 00:17:54,773 --> 00:17:56,475 Thanks for asking. It's going great. 357 00:17:56,475 --> 00:18:00,546 I mean, we're about five and a half months in, you know, to this at, 358 00:18:00,813 --> 00:18:02,548 you know, in some ways, I didn't know what to expect. 359 00:18:02,548 --> 00:18:05,084 Obviously, I've never run for office before. 360 00:18:05,084 --> 00:18:07,453 But you and Ronald Reagan. Yeah. Yeah. 361 00:18:07,453 --> 00:18:10,322 Well, yeah, the funny story behind that, I know, 362 00:18:10,322 --> 00:18:14,259 but, it's, you know, we're winning the game financially. 363 00:18:14,259 --> 00:18:19,431 So one of the reasons Republicans lost in 2018, in a state that, you know, 364 00:18:19,431 --> 00:18:22,668 we haven't had a Democratic senator in almost 100 years, or the longest 365 00:18:22,668 --> 00:18:25,137 running state without a Democratic senator. 366 00:18:25,137 --> 00:18:25,571 I didn't know. 367 00:18:25,571 --> 00:18:28,440 That's interesting. Yeah, we have supermajorities in both houses. 368 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:33,178 I mean, Trump won the state three times by huge margins, but we've lost 369 00:18:33,178 --> 00:18:38,383 the governor's seat, the CEO job to a Democrat in 2018 and 2022. 370 00:18:38,784 --> 00:18:41,820 And one of the big reasons is because we got crushed financially. 371 00:18:41,820 --> 00:18:44,923 The Republicans, did not do a good job of raising money, 372 00:18:45,124 --> 00:18:48,694 and they weren't well capitalized, you know, a political campaign in 373 00:18:48,694 --> 00:18:50,529 some ways is like a new business startup. 374 00:18:50,529 --> 00:18:51,930 You have to be well-financed. 375 00:18:51,930 --> 00:18:53,732 You have to be well capitalized. 376 00:18:53,732 --> 00:18:54,900 So what? 377 00:18:54,900 --> 00:18:58,337 December 31st was a big financial cut off in the state of Kansas. 378 00:18:58,337 --> 00:18:59,338 The way they do it, 379 00:18:59,338 --> 00:19:02,508 where all the candidates have to disclose their financial numbers. 380 00:19:02,875 --> 00:19:06,812 And, not only were we number one of Republican and Democratic 381 00:19:07,346 --> 00:19:11,450 candidates far and away number one at about $3 million, but that was 382 00:19:11,450 --> 00:19:15,954 the most ever raised in the history of Kansas gubernatorial races. 383 00:19:15,954 --> 00:19:18,423 By that date, December 31st. 384 00:19:18,423 --> 00:19:22,027 So we have a huge cash advantage as we come into the new year. 385 00:19:23,228 --> 00:19:25,130 There's an amazing grassroots 386 00:19:25,130 --> 00:19:29,401 enthusiasm going on all over the the state, wherever we go. 387 00:19:29,401 --> 00:19:32,137 People are so tired of politics as usual. 388 00:19:32,137 --> 00:19:34,339 They're so tired of career politicians. 389 00:19:34,339 --> 00:19:38,410 And I think the energy for somebody from the outside and a business leader, 390 00:19:38,810 --> 00:19:42,281 you know, all, President Trump and you know what he's done 391 00:19:42,281 --> 00:19:44,416 coming in from the outside or I think 392 00:19:44,416 --> 00:19:47,419 you and I might have talked about this the first time I was on as well. 393 00:19:47,452 --> 00:19:51,089 There's about a dozen governors, the who had never run for office, 394 00:19:51,423 --> 00:19:55,294 you know, because essentially the executive branch, it's a CEO job. 395 00:19:55,294 --> 00:19:57,796 You're the CEO of the state. It's really what it amounts to. Yeah. 396 00:19:57,796 --> 00:20:01,233 And you need you know, I was at the RGA meeting a couple of, 397 00:20:01,667 --> 00:20:06,305 a couple of months ago, and I listened to, a session with, you mentioned 398 00:20:06,305 --> 00:20:10,475 Glenn Youngkin earlier who had never run for office, former governor of Virginia, 399 00:20:10,709 --> 00:20:14,680 Bill Lee, governor of Tennessee, very successful business leader and CEO. 400 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,683 He had never run for office prior to running for governor of Tennessee. 401 00:20:17,749 --> 00:20:19,952 And Tennessee's doing a fantastic job. 402 00:20:19,952 --> 00:20:20,819 Well, yeah, we're. 403 00:20:20,819 --> 00:20:24,056 Headquartered one Detego is headquartering one of our companies there. No. 404 00:20:24,122 --> 00:20:24,690 That's right. 405 00:20:24,690 --> 00:20:26,425 And then Mike Kehoe, of course, you know, 406 00:20:26,425 --> 00:20:29,428 very successful car dealer for many, many years in Missouri. 407 00:20:29,728 --> 00:20:33,332 And I was listening to this conversation that they were having the three of them. 408 00:20:33,332 --> 00:20:38,537 It was like a roundtable discussion, and the whole entire conversation 409 00:20:38,537 --> 00:20:42,741 was about international trade trips and recruiting investment 410 00:20:42,741 --> 00:20:46,712 to their state, conversations with business, leaders and CEOs. 411 00:20:47,446 --> 00:20:49,514 It was about their state economy. 412 00:20:49,514 --> 00:20:52,517 And I just as I was listening to that and I was sitting there, 413 00:20:52,517 --> 00:20:56,188 I thought to myself, how could anyone think that your governor 414 00:20:56,188 --> 00:21:00,525 doesn't need very high levels of business acumen to do that 415 00:21:00,525 --> 00:21:04,563 job well, because it is a massive part of the job. 416 00:21:04,863 --> 00:21:08,700 And so we're there's this enthusiasm across the state. 417 00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:10,802 And I'll give you one example. 418 00:21:10,802 --> 00:21:12,871 You know, four months ago when I was on here, 419 00:21:12,871 --> 00:21:15,874 I think the first time, I wasn't on social media, 420 00:21:16,208 --> 00:21:19,344 you know, I didn't have, Facebook, Instagram, and X. 421 00:21:19,945 --> 00:21:21,947 We kind of kicked you off. I'm proud to say the. 422 00:21:21,947 --> 00:21:22,848 I think. That's right. 423 00:21:22,848 --> 00:21:23,115 Yeah. 424 00:21:23,115 --> 00:21:26,251 And, I, you know, I just, I had no, I didn't want to be on those. 425 00:21:26,251 --> 00:21:28,287 And my, you know, my team said no, no, no, 426 00:21:28,287 --> 00:21:31,890 you got to, you got to be on social media if you're running now. 427 00:21:32,090 --> 00:21:36,662 Well, not only are we on now, we are up to I think it's we're getting close to 428 00:21:36,662 --> 00:21:39,631 35,000 followers 429 00:21:39,631 --> 00:21:43,201 in just about four months since we went up on social media. 430 00:21:43,201 --> 00:21:48,106 We are of far and away the most followed candidate on social media. 431 00:21:48,106 --> 00:21:51,109 So everybody go out and follow us if you're interested in the campaign. 432 00:21:51,410 --> 00:21:55,881 And again, to me that just speaks to the grassroots enthusiasm 433 00:21:55,881 --> 00:21:59,017 that's out there across the state to get something different. 434 00:21:59,017 --> 00:22:01,853 We can't, you know, the Republicans in the state, 435 00:22:01,853 --> 00:22:04,856 we can't go 12 years with a Democratic governor 436 00:22:05,023 --> 00:22:08,160 and the people that we're running against, that I'm running against, 437 00:22:08,393 --> 00:22:11,363 those are the same people that have lost the last two governor's races, 438 00:22:11,363 --> 00:22:12,931 and we just can't do that. A third time. 439 00:22:12,931 --> 00:22:15,100 There's not a vision there, Philip. No there isn’t a vision. 440 00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:17,836 I pay close attention to politics in this state. 441 00:22:17,836 --> 00:22:22,240 I moved out of Kansas City, Missouri, to get away from what I was dealing with 442 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,445 in Brookside, in Kansas City, in the state of Missouri, and moved to Kansas because 443 00:22:26,511 --> 00:22:29,948 was a better environment for my family, my grandchildren, the whole nine yards. 444 00:22:30,282 --> 00:22:33,452 But when I look at the state and I travel around the state 445 00:22:33,452 --> 00:22:37,022 where I'm doing radio in different places, and I see these towns and these cities 446 00:22:37,322 --> 00:22:40,726 where, you know, Wichita's a vibrant town doing very well. 447 00:22:40,859 --> 00:22:43,495 Okay. Got 3 or 4 luxury car dealerships. 448 00:22:43,495 --> 00:22:46,665 So Laird's going to Hays, going to Scott City, 449 00:22:46,898 --> 00:22:51,002 going to some of these other places and see how well they're doing. 450 00:22:51,269 --> 00:22:53,472 And why aren't they ripe 451 00:22:53,472 --> 00:22:56,508 for companies to come in and do startups and opportunities? 452 00:22:56,742 --> 00:22:59,444 Well, because a lot of what you just talked about, all. The. 453 00:22:59,444 --> 00:23:01,413 Taxes and bureaucracy. 454 00:23:01,413 --> 00:23:01,713 Yeah. 455 00:23:01,713 --> 00:23:06,385 Overregulating overtaxing and overspending, I mean, are, you know, 456 00:23:06,385 --> 00:23:09,654 regardless of what you might think of the Chiefs deal, here's one example. 457 00:23:09,654 --> 00:23:12,791 You know, the leaders of our state 458 00:23:12,824 --> 00:23:16,595 decided that they needed a luxury suite, paid 459 00:23:16,595 --> 00:23:20,665 for by the taxpayers, in the new Chiefs Stadium. 460 00:23:20,866 --> 00:23:22,100 Run that by me one more time. 461 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:24,336 This is this is not public knowledge, people. 462 00:23:24,336 --> 00:23:26,872 This is breaking news in case. No, it's actually out there. 463 00:23:26,872 --> 00:23:28,673 Okay, well, breaking news here. 464 00:23:28,673 --> 00:23:29,541 Okay. 465 00:23:29,541 --> 00:23:32,010 Yeah, they they negotiated in the deal. 466 00:23:32,010 --> 00:23:36,681 A luxury suite for themselves, paid for by the taxpayers. 467 00:23:37,082 --> 00:23:39,117 And, you know. 468 00:23:39,117 --> 00:23:39,484 We'll. 469 00:23:39,484 --> 00:23:42,020 We'll, we'll get extreme value out of that, 470 00:23:42,020 --> 00:23:43,622 but I'll make sure that the taxpayers 471 00:23:43,622 --> 00:23:47,259 are not paying for that when I'm governor, because it's just it's tone deaf. 472 00:23:47,592 --> 00:23:50,429 I mean, when you look at the amount of spending I mentioned earlier, 473 00:23:50,429 --> 00:23:54,032 $10.5 billion of new spending in the last seven years, 474 00:23:54,466 --> 00:23:57,269 and that's what our Democratic governor has brought us. 475 00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:58,603 But quite frankly, it's also 476 00:23:58,603 --> 00:24:02,474 what our Republican leaders in the House and Senate have brought us to. 477 00:24:02,641 --> 00:24:07,879 We are overspending and therefore, over taxing, and we're overregulating. 478 00:24:07,879 --> 00:24:09,681 So we're not growing the economy. 479 00:24:09,681 --> 00:24:12,751 As you talked about, 1.4% is anemic. 480 00:24:13,251 --> 00:24:17,823 So, it just it really bothered me when I heard that, 481 00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:21,393 that the taxpayers are going to be paying for that luxury suite. 482 00:24:21,526 --> 00:24:26,465 And it's just, again, is that a huge number in a $26 billion budget? 483 00:24:27,499 --> 00:24:29,734 Not. No, but that's not the problem. 484 00:24:29,734 --> 00:24:32,370 The problem is these are the taxpayer dollars. 485 00:24:32,370 --> 00:24:35,307 And, you know, I grew up, my father was a janitor. 486 00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:36,608 My mom was a secretary. 487 00:24:36,608 --> 00:24:38,710 I mean, every dollar is precious. 488 00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:41,880 And we have to protect the taxpayers of the state of Kansas. 489 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,148 My father was a coal miner. 490 00:24:43,148 --> 00:24:45,550 Yeah. Okay. So you know, I know. Every dollar. 491 00:24:45,550 --> 00:24:48,553 Yeah. I said, you know, to me 492 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:51,056 that's just arrogant. I'm sorry. 493 00:24:51,056 --> 00:24:54,793 That's the way I see it, that you think you that you think 494 00:24:54,793 --> 00:24:58,630 you should have that privilege because you're in political office, right? 495 00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:59,331 Really? Yeah. 496 00:24:59,331 --> 00:25:01,099 Seriously, I totally agree. 497 00:25:01,099 --> 00:25:04,102 No, I don't, I don't to me, that just. 498 00:25:04,302 --> 00:25:06,204 Yes, you said it. It's tone deaf. Yeah. 499 00:25:06,204 --> 00:25:08,006 In a time where we're not growing 500 00:25:08,006 --> 00:25:11,209 and we're being taxed to death, now we're going to have this luxury. 501 00:25:11,977 --> 00:25:14,479 Yeah. Oh. Tucked away. Tucked into the deal. 502 00:25:14,479 --> 00:25:16,748 You get to pay for it. So yeah. Yeah. 503 00:25:16,748 --> 00:25:18,750 There you go. Yeah. You probably won't get invited. 504 00:25:18,750 --> 00:25:19,618 You get to pay for it. 505 00:25:19,618 --> 00:25:21,453 I don't know if when I'm governor, 506 00:25:21,453 --> 00:25:23,588 we'll figure out some creative ways on how to use it. 507 00:25:23,588 --> 00:25:25,190 Oh, real value out of it. 508 00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:27,759 But if Chiefs to start playing football again. 509 00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:28,994 Like to have the last three years. 510 00:25:28,994 --> 00:25:31,263 I'm sure there'll be a lot of high level executives. 511 00:25:31,263 --> 00:25:34,599 Wouldn't mind coming to one of those games and talk about putting a deal together, 512 00:25:34,933 --> 00:25:37,302 you know, to come into this state and do some work and, 513 00:25:37,302 --> 00:25:39,004 you know the other thing is, 514 00:25:39,004 --> 00:25:41,873 obviously we touched on it a minute ago before we go to break here is 515 00:25:41,873 --> 00:25:43,842 we have to be able to keep these young people. 516 00:25:43,842 --> 00:25:46,044 We've got some of the best schools in the country. 517 00:25:46,044 --> 00:25:49,948 K state that architecture program is one of the best schools in the country. 518 00:25:50,215 --> 00:25:52,951 You know, we've KU’s got some great. 519 00:25:52,951 --> 00:25:54,786 KU Med, business school. Yeah. 520 00:25:54,786 --> 00:25:57,322 Business schools I mean law schools. 521 00:25:57,322 --> 00:26:00,325 Emporia Pittsburg State go down the list. 522 00:26:00,525 --> 00:26:02,060 But those kids aren't staying here. 523 00:26:02,060 --> 00:26:04,296 So we have to create these opportunities. 524 00:26:04,296 --> 00:26:06,698 Yeah, we need jobs. We need businesses that are here. 525 00:26:06,698 --> 00:26:08,867 We need jobs that will attract them. 526 00:26:08,867 --> 00:26:11,870 And it's, it's something we'll get done as governor. 527 00:26:11,970 --> 00:26:13,672 Yeah, I think it is something you'll get done. 528 00:26:13,672 --> 00:26:15,540 And I think you and I think one of the reasons 529 00:26:15,540 --> 00:26:17,409 why you're having this success you're 530 00:26:17,409 --> 00:26:19,945 having with the campaign is it's a different message. 531 00:26:19,945 --> 00:26:22,747 And I think people are ready for a very different message. 532 00:26:22,747 --> 00:26:28,053 If you want to learn more, go to the website PhilipSarnecki.org. 533 00:26:28,053 --> 00:26:31,022 All his information is up there. 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We got the future governor in the house. 550 00:27:19,270 --> 00:27:20,071 Welcome back. 551 00:27:20,071 --> 00:27:23,341 You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocates Show broadcasting 552 00:27:23,341 --> 00:27:26,978 coast to coast to coast USA here on the HIA Radio Network. 553 00:27:27,178 --> 00:27:28,446 You can find out more about us 554 00:27:28,446 --> 00:27:31,449 by going to the website AmericasHealthcareAdvocate.com. 555 00:27:31,483 --> 00:27:33,151 You have a question, a problem. 556 00:27:33,151 --> 00:27:33,785 You need help. 557 00:27:33,785 --> 00:27:36,655 Reach out to me. I'm happy to help you in any way that I can. 558 00:27:36,655 --> 00:27:38,089 Philip Sarnecki, 559 00:27:38,089 --> 00:27:40,959 hopefully the future governor of the state of Kansas in studio with me 560 00:27:40,959 --> 00:27:41,993 for the second time today. 561 00:27:41,993 --> 00:27:45,263 I hope to have been back many more times before we get to November. 562 00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:48,299 If you want to learn about this guy I've known him for, I think 563 00:27:48,299 --> 00:27:50,602 almost 9 or 10 years now. 564 00:27:50,602 --> 00:27:54,105 This is somebody who you really do need to get to know if you want a new governor. 565 00:27:54,305 --> 00:27:58,209 That’s going to turn this state around, get us away from 1.4% growth 566 00:27:58,443 --> 00:28:00,578 and the highest taxes in the area. 567 00:28:00,578 --> 00:28:02,247 This is the man that can do that. 568 00:28:02,247 --> 00:28:03,081 His website. 569 00:28:03,081 --> 00:28:06,184 PhilipSarnecki.org. 570 00:28:06,184 --> 00:28:10,755 You can also follow him on Facebook and support Philip Sarnecki for governor. 571 00:28:10,922 --> 00:28:12,590 Also on WinRed. 572 00:28:12,590 --> 00:28:18,296 So Hunter your campaign manager dropped this on me as he came in the studio. 573 00:28:18,296 --> 00:28:20,365 And frankly, I was shocked 574 00:28:20,365 --> 00:28:23,635 because my grandchildren go to Blue Valley School District, 575 00:28:23,868 --> 00:28:25,603 and it's one of the I think it's the number four 576 00:28:25,603 --> 00:28:28,606 rated school district or 14th rated in the country or something. 577 00:28:28,606 --> 00:28:29,808 It's ridiculous. 578 00:28:29,808 --> 00:28:33,244 It's a fabulous program, great academic program, great athletic program. 579 00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:35,947 That's not the case with State of Kansas, is it? 580 00:28:35,947 --> 00:28:36,314 Philip? 581 00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:39,718 No. The state of Kansas is, 582 00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:43,455 struggling from an education standpoint, and there's a number of reasons for that. 583 00:28:43,455 --> 00:28:47,859 But, just to give you a couple of examples, we are 15th in spending. 584 00:28:48,460 --> 00:28:51,196 We're 40th in Nape scores. 585 00:28:51,196 --> 00:28:55,300 We last year spent a little over $20,000 per 586 00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:58,770 child, per student in the state of Kansas on education. 587 00:29:00,004 --> 00:29:02,307 And yet we had the worst 588 00:29:02,307 --> 00:29:05,343 test score outcomes that we've ever had for a state. 589 00:29:05,343 --> 00:29:06,478 The worst? The worst. 590 00:29:06,478 --> 00:29:10,949 So for the first time ever, our test scores were below the national average. 591 00:29:11,149 --> 00:29:16,287 So in fourth grade, 70%, it's actually a little over 70% of our fourth 592 00:29:16,287 --> 00:29:20,592 graders are not proficient in math or reading. 593 00:29:20,592 --> 00:29:21,893 At a fourth grade level. 594 00:29:21,893 --> 00:29:23,795 A little over 70%. 595 00:29:23,795 --> 00:29:26,698 And so we are we are failing our children. 596 00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:31,436 You know, I mentioned this at the debate, too. 597 00:29:31,436 --> 00:29:35,206 I mean, it kind of goes without saying that your children are your future. 598 00:29:35,540 --> 00:29:39,444 But if we don't fix this, Kansas won't have much of a future. 599 00:29:40,044 --> 00:29:42,280 This has got to be a top priority to fix. 600 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,681 So I'll give you a couple of examples. 601 00:29:43,681 --> 00:29:46,985 So one of the things where you see education succeeding 602 00:29:46,985 --> 00:29:49,988 around the country in different states is charter schools. 603 00:29:50,188 --> 00:29:53,191 And we have less than a dozen in the state of Kansas. 604 00:29:53,191 --> 00:29:54,492 And one of the reasons for 605 00:29:54,492 --> 00:29:58,396 that is the charter schools are approved by the districts. 606 00:29:58,830 --> 00:30:02,367 And we need an independent authority, 607 00:30:02,367 --> 00:30:06,070 an independent body that is approving those charter schools. 608 00:30:06,404 --> 00:30:07,338 And then the other thing 609 00:30:07,338 --> 00:30:10,475 that we need to do is we need to be able to scale the schools 610 00:30:10,475 --> 00:30:13,077 that are doing the charter schools that are doing well. 611 00:30:13,077 --> 00:30:16,481 So let's go replicate those that are doing well across the country 612 00:30:16,481 --> 00:30:18,750 or across the state. Why are they doing well? 613 00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:21,419 And then let's, you know, go and replicate that. 614 00:30:21,419 --> 00:30:23,688 So that's one thing that we need to be doing. 615 00:30:23,688 --> 00:30:28,593 The second thing is so the center for Education Reform, you so I mentioned 616 00:30:28,593 --> 00:30:32,597 CNBC ranked as 48th on the economy as a state and gave us an F. 617 00:30:33,064 --> 00:30:38,136 Well, the center for Education Reform for School Choice ranked us 50th. 618 00:30:38,136 --> 00:30:42,740 They ranked US dead last in school choice and gave us an F as well. 619 00:30:42,941 --> 00:30:44,776 So we're getting an F on the economy. 620 00:30:44,776 --> 00:30:46,811 We're getting an F on school choice. 621 00:30:46,811 --> 00:30:49,080 So we we don't have enough options. 622 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,016 So some people are thrilled with their schools and that's wonderful I. 623 00:30:52,016 --> 00:30:52,750 Really is. 624 00:30:52,750 --> 00:30:53,284 Sure. 625 00:30:53,284 --> 00:30:54,886 Yeah, I grew up in a public school. 626 00:30:54,886 --> 00:30:56,621 My wife grew up in a public school. 627 00:30:56,621 --> 00:30:59,991 I mean, public schools, can be wonderful, 628 00:30:59,991 --> 00:31:03,061 but they're not working for everyone. No. 629 00:31:03,061 --> 00:31:05,930 And some people need different options. 630 00:31:05,930 --> 00:31:07,232 They need different choices. 631 00:31:07,232 --> 00:31:10,201 And parents need to be in control of that, 632 00:31:10,401 --> 00:31:13,238 not state government bureaucracy. 633 00:31:13,238 --> 00:31:16,074 And we need to give our parents more choice for those. 634 00:31:16,074 --> 00:31:19,210 They do need more options, whether it's a charter school, 635 00:31:19,210 --> 00:31:22,847 whether it's a private school, whether it's homeschooling. 636 00:31:23,081 --> 00:31:26,351 And we need to empower the parents to be able to make those choices 637 00:31:26,351 --> 00:31:27,118 for their children. 638 00:31:27,118 --> 00:31:29,721 But we don't see that happening. We don't yet. 639 00:31:29,721 --> 00:31:33,992 And and while communities like Johnson County with the highest property taxes, 640 00:31:34,959 --> 00:31:36,995 and I know you and I both 641 00:31:36,995 --> 00:31:39,998 pay them, okay, but I've got grandchildren go to school here. 642 00:31:39,998 --> 00:31:45,904 So I'm like, okay, but you you get further out and into the rural communities 643 00:31:45,904 --> 00:31:48,907 where they don't have the assets and they don't have the ability 644 00:31:49,540 --> 00:31:53,077 or the quality of education for those kids declines dramatically. 645 00:31:53,077 --> 00:31:54,279 Yet there are no alternatives. 646 00:31:54,279 --> 00:31:56,080 They don't have a choice. 647 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:56,915 They don't have a choice. 648 00:31:56,915 --> 00:31:59,751 And a lot of in a lot of places, like in Wichita, Salina 649 00:31:59,751 --> 00:32:03,187 and other places that have a choice there either, because, as you said, 650 00:32:03,588 --> 00:32:06,624 and charters are interesting because I served on a charter school, 651 00:32:06,791 --> 00:32:09,560 Urban Children's Leadership Academy in Kansas City. 652 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,561 And I remember 653 00:32:10,561 --> 00:32:14,632 this is on the east side of Kansas City, mostly African-American population. 654 00:32:15,166 --> 00:32:18,369 The parents that came to that school were so thankful 655 00:32:18,403 --> 00:32:21,406 that their kids were going to school where they were in uniforms, 656 00:32:21,773 --> 00:32:25,243 where there was discipline, where they learned it was a 657 00:32:26,444 --> 00:32:29,814 I remember one mother's child was going to be kicked out of school, 658 00:32:29,814 --> 00:32:32,817 and she came in and she begged us not kick him out of school. 659 00:32:33,017 --> 00:32:36,020 I don't want him to have to do what I do for a living. 660 00:32:36,087 --> 00:32:38,122 I don't want him to have to stick people. 661 00:32:38,122 --> 00:32:39,457 She was a lab tech. 662 00:32:39,457 --> 00:32:40,658 That's all she did. 663 00:32:40,658 --> 00:32:42,894 She wanted him to have a future. 664 00:32:42,894 --> 00:32:45,897 These kids aren't getting that future because we don't have that system. 665 00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:48,333 Yeah, well, that goes back to my being able. 666 00:32:48,333 --> 00:32:49,567 So there's an example. 667 00:32:49,567 --> 00:32:52,070 I'm not familiar with that school, but that's an example of take 668 00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:55,573 those schools that are doing well that are exceptional, and let's go scale 669 00:32:55,573 --> 00:32:59,610 those around the state and create opportunities to do that 670 00:32:59,811 --> 00:33:02,814 so we can, you know, we can empower the parents, 671 00:33:03,047 --> 00:33:05,650 to have those kind of choices and options for their children. 672 00:33:05,650 --> 00:33:08,686 So how do you answer this issue when people say, well, you're taking money 673 00:33:08,686 --> 00:33:11,689 away from the rural school districts, they won't be able to survive? 674 00:33:11,923 --> 00:33:14,659 Well, first of all, if you look at the data, it's not true. 675 00:33:14,659 --> 00:33:17,595 The school school spending is continues to increase. 676 00:33:17,595 --> 00:33:19,163 It continues to go up and up. 677 00:33:19,163 --> 00:33:21,232 And so we're not doing that again. 678 00:33:21,232 --> 00:33:23,768 We're spending over $20,000 per student. 679 00:33:23,768 --> 00:33:25,937 That's what the taxpayers are spending. That's a lot of money. 680 00:33:25,937 --> 00:33:27,739 Per student per year. 681 00:33:27,739 --> 00:33:28,006 That's what 682 00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:31,642 we spent last year in the state of Kansas to, you know, to educate our children. 683 00:33:31,943 --> 00:33:33,111 Part of the problem 684 00:33:33,111 --> 00:33:36,748 is that where the money's going, it's an allocation of resources. 685 00:33:36,914 --> 00:33:37,915 It's not a money issue. 686 00:33:37,915 --> 00:33:40,051 It's an allocation issue. 687 00:33:40,051 --> 00:33:42,687 Way too much money going to bureaucracy. 688 00:33:42,687 --> 00:33:43,454 I could go through. 689 00:33:43,454 --> 00:33:47,091 We don't have time, but I could go through the whole, educational layers 690 00:33:47,091 --> 00:33:51,029 in the state as opposed to getting the money into the classroom. 691 00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:51,929 Exactly. 692 00:33:51,929 --> 00:33:55,099 Getting the money to the teachers and getting the money to the students. 693 00:33:55,099 --> 00:33:56,367 And how much of that revolves 694 00:33:56,367 --> 00:33:59,370 around the teachers unions and their influence in the state? 695 00:33:59,370 --> 00:34:01,973 A big part of it, and I don't quite. 696 00:34:01,973 --> 00:34:04,208 No question. No question. That then. 697 00:34:04,208 --> 00:34:07,211 And when you get career politicians that are bought and paid for, 698 00:34:07,712 --> 00:34:09,280 you know, that's one of the nice things about, 699 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,683 you know, me being an outsider is I'm not beholden to anybody. 700 00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:13,217 No you're not. 701 00:34:13,217 --> 00:34:17,221 I don't owe anything, anything, anyone, anything for a political career. 702 00:34:17,221 --> 00:34:19,390 Because I've never had a political career like you. 703 00:34:19,390 --> 00:34:23,861 And so I can truly come at this with a different lens and, 704 00:34:24,295 --> 00:34:28,166 with a different, at it from a different angle than what, 705 00:34:28,533 --> 00:34:31,502 all the folks that I'm running against and the way that they approach it. 706 00:34:31,736 --> 00:34:33,404 And I think you do. Well, thank you. 707 00:34:33,404 --> 00:34:35,573 And I think you’re probably going to win this race. 708 00:34:35,573 --> 00:34:37,675 Well thank you. Humble opinion. It's going very well. 709 00:34:37,675 --> 00:34:39,043 It certainly is. 710 00:34:39,043 --> 00:34:40,645 Thank you for coming on to of course. 711 00:34:40,645 --> 00:34:42,847 Now I leave you with this thought from Albert Einstein, 712 00:34:42,847 --> 00:34:45,950 the one who follows the crowd, they usually get no further than the crowd. 713 00:34:45,950 --> 00:34:50,388 The one who walks alone is likely to find himself in places no one has ever been. 714 00:34:50,822 --> 00:34:51,622 I would have to say that 715 00:34:51,622 --> 00:34:54,759 probably applies to the man sitting across me in this studio today. 716 00:34:55,026 --> 00:34:57,995 Thank you for listening to America's Healthcare Advocate Show, 717 00:34:57,995 --> 00:35:00,998 broadcasting coast to coast across USA. 718 00:35:01,132 --> 00:35:02,366 Goodbye America.