1 00:00:08,775 --> 00:00:10,477 On today's show. 2 00:00:10,477 --> 00:00:14,748 Think about if you have ever seen someone go into cardiac arrest. 3 00:00:14,948 --> 00:00:16,182 What would you do? 4 00:00:16,182 --> 00:00:17,650 Would you know what to do? 5 00:00:17,650 --> 00:00:19,419 Would you know how to do it? 6 00:00:19,419 --> 00:00:21,454 Do you know how to do CPR? 7 00:00:21,454 --> 00:00:23,423 We have an expert in studio today. 8 00:00:23,423 --> 00:00:25,058 Her name is Katie Radginski. 9 00:00:25,058 --> 00:00:27,794 She is with ReadyTrainGo.com. 10 00:00:27,794 --> 00:00:31,631 And we're going to teach you why CPR is really important. 11 00:00:31,731 --> 00:00:34,734 Stay tuned. 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We're going to talk about CPR. 53 00:02:29,349 --> 00:02:31,584 Why is that important? What does it mean? 54 00:02:31,584 --> 00:02:35,321 What do you need to know if you want to get certified why should you bother? 55 00:02:35,421 --> 00:02:37,123 Why is it important okay. 56 00:02:37,123 --> 00:02:40,827 And where do you see incidents like this where this becomes a very important issue. 57 00:02:40,860 --> 00:02:43,296 So I'm going to tell a little story here before we get started. 58 00:02:43,296 --> 00:02:44,063 Welcome, Katie. 59 00:02:44,063 --> 00:02:44,531 Thank you. 60 00:02:44,531 --> 00:02:45,698 Happy to have you here today. 61 00:02:45,698 --> 00:02:47,567 Came in here from Saint Louis today to do the show. 62 00:02:47,567 --> 00:02:49,035 We're very happy to have her. 63 00:02:49,035 --> 00:02:51,604 So my daughter works at Morgan Stanley. 64 00:02:51,604 --> 00:02:53,740 She is a financial analyst there. 65 00:02:53,740 --> 00:02:56,576 They're in a meeting, with one of their clients one day. 66 00:02:56,576 --> 00:02:59,245 And the gentleman's an older gentleman, like, I'm 76. 67 00:02:59,245 --> 00:03:00,647 I don't know if he was that old or older, 68 00:03:00,647 --> 00:03:04,284 but regardless of that he goes in to heart failure, has a heart attack. 69 00:03:04,617 --> 00:03:07,120 She is trained in CPR and certified. 70 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,691 She goes into CPR, literally saves the guy's life 71 00:03:11,991 --> 00:03:14,827 by the time the paramedics get there and they tell her that. 72 00:03:14,827 --> 00:03:19,365 That story to me, Katie illustrates why you never know, right? 73 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:21,301 Okay, so talk a little bit about this. Why... 74 00:03:21,301 --> 00:03:22,335 It's very interesting. 75 00:03:22,335 --> 00:03:25,572 In the show notes, I was going to this morning at about 430 in the morning. 76 00:03:26,072 --> 00:03:26,973 You had in here. 77 00:03:26,973 --> 00:03:29,842 If you're untrained, just call 911. 78 00:03:29,842 --> 00:03:31,244 And that really stuck out to me. 79 00:03:31,244 --> 00:03:33,713 Like, don't do more harm than you were. 80 00:03:33,713 --> 00:03:35,381 Good. So talk a bit about that, right? 81 00:03:35,381 --> 00:03:36,115 I always tell people 82 00:03:36,115 --> 00:03:39,819 like the little voice in your head, like, listen to it because it'll say, call 911 83 00:03:40,053 --> 00:03:41,454 and you're like, well, should I, should I not? 84 00:03:41,454 --> 00:03:44,557 Well now you just wasted thirty seconds of that person's possibility 85 00:03:44,557 --> 00:03:47,961 of, of being saved because you chose not to do anything. 86 00:03:47,961 --> 00:03:49,896 So doing something is that first step. 87 00:03:49,896 --> 00:03:52,432 And then once you call 911, they'll walk you through it. 88 00:03:52,432 --> 00:03:56,803 And you don't have to be afraid of actually knowing what to do, 89 00:03:57,337 --> 00:04:00,473 even though getting certified is helpful because it gives you the confidence. 90 00:04:00,473 --> 00:04:03,042 Like anything, if you don't use it, you're going to lose it. 91 00:04:03,042 --> 00:04:06,212 Like I use the example usually, like I don't want an airplane pilot 92 00:04:06,212 --> 00:04:09,215 not knowing what they're doing when we take off. 93 00:04:09,215 --> 00:04:10,183 Probably not. 94 00:04:10,183 --> 00:04:12,252 No. Like they have to have continuing education units, 95 00:04:12,252 --> 00:04:16,055 just like you should go to a class and get certified in CPR and first aid 96 00:04:16,089 --> 00:04:19,459 so that you understand the skills, because you going through one time 97 00:04:19,659 --> 00:04:21,761 isn't going to make you knowledgeable of everything. 98 00:04:21,761 --> 00:04:23,663 And you don't have to feel that, 99 00:04:23,663 --> 00:04:26,799 intimidation when when you're taking the class, I'm like, oh no, now 100 00:04:26,799 --> 00:04:29,335 I have to save everybody. No, do what you can. 101 00:04:29,335 --> 00:04:32,005 You know, if that means you're calling 911 and then the paramedics 102 00:04:32,005 --> 00:04:33,873 come and take over, then you've done what you can do. 103 00:04:33,873 --> 00:04:37,710 But like with your daughter, she jumped in and she started CPR and saved the life. 104 00:04:37,710 --> 00:04:39,579 And I had no idea she even knew how to do that. 105 00:04:39,579 --> 00:04:42,382 And so my dad, Morgan Stanley, put as a program in place. 106 00:04:42,382 --> 00:04:44,217 We get trained if we want to volunteer. 107 00:04:44,217 --> 00:04:46,486 And she she started out in California doing it. 108 00:04:46,486 --> 00:04:50,957 Now she's kind of like the person in their facility here in Leawood 109 00:04:51,190 --> 00:04:54,327 who, you know, trains other people and knows how to and does this. 110 00:04:54,494 --> 00:04:56,129 It's really kind of amazing. Right. 111 00:04:56,129 --> 00:04:58,197 And you never know what companies do that. 112 00:04:58,197 --> 00:05:01,034 Like a lot of companies in the area, even though like you said, it's Morgan 113 00:05:01,034 --> 00:05:04,304 Stanley is not one that you think like, oh, they're not medical providers. 114 00:05:04,304 --> 00:05:05,471 Like, well, why would they have CPR? 115 00:05:05,471 --> 00:05:07,373 They're financial planners. Right. 116 00:05:07,373 --> 00:05:10,443 But there are tons of organizations that will do that, like car 117 00:05:10,443 --> 00:05:13,813 rental places, manufacturing companies like different places that you're going 118 00:05:13,813 --> 00:05:14,681 like, oh, okay. 119 00:05:14,681 --> 00:05:17,684 And they have safety teams because it's the just in case 120 00:05:17,850 --> 00:05:21,154 if something were to happen, you never know when emergencies can happen 121 00:05:21,154 --> 00:05:24,157 that they're they can step up and actually help their coworkers. 122 00:05:24,390 --> 00:05:27,860 So what what is the difference between CPR. 123 00:05:27,860 --> 00:05:31,998 And then when you see the mouth to mouth thing, I never really quite understood 124 00:05:32,699 --> 00:05:34,334 the difference between the two. 125 00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:37,770 One looks like it's relatively easy do whether or not 126 00:05:37,770 --> 00:05:40,740 I want to put my mouth over somebody else's mouth. 127 00:05:40,740 --> 00:05:41,841 I'm not so sure about that. 128 00:05:41,841 --> 00:05:43,710 So talk a little bit about what's the difference 129 00:05:43,710 --> 00:05:45,945 between those two and why one versus the other. 130 00:05:45,945 --> 00:05:47,280 Well so here let's break it down for us. 131 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:50,116 So CPR is cardiopulmonary resuscitation. 132 00:05:50,116 --> 00:05:52,418 So cardio is heart pulmonary is lungs. 133 00:05:52,418 --> 00:05:54,420 Resuscitation is bring back to life. 134 00:05:54,420 --> 00:05:56,422 So we need our heart to pump. 135 00:05:56,422 --> 00:05:59,092 So it when our heart pumps it goes. Ba dmp, ba dmp, ba dmp. 136 00:05:59,092 --> 00:06:00,493 It needs to have this rhythm. 137 00:06:00,493 --> 00:06:02,895 And it has electrical impulses that there's still the body. 138 00:06:02,895 --> 00:06:04,731 It's complicated in order. 139 00:06:04,731 --> 00:06:08,067 When you do CPR and you're doing the the compressions part, 140 00:06:08,067 --> 00:06:11,070 you're pumping the heart for the heart when it just stops. 141 00:06:11,537 --> 00:06:14,707 When we do the breaths, it gives us the oxygen 142 00:06:14,707 --> 00:06:17,610 that the blood needs to circulate to the brain and the other vital organs. 143 00:06:17,610 --> 00:06:20,246 Because if you don't have oxygen to your 144 00:06:20,246 --> 00:06:23,249 brain, you won't be able to function as a person. 145 00:06:23,282 --> 00:06:26,352 And so you put the combination of the two together. 146 00:06:26,352 --> 00:06:29,188 And that's what CPR is compressions and breaths. 147 00:06:29,188 --> 00:06:30,757 Now people will debate back and forth. 148 00:06:30,757 --> 00:06:32,492 Well, you don't need to do the breaths anymore 149 00:06:32,492 --> 00:06:34,861 because like you said, I don't want to put my mouth on someone. 150 00:06:34,861 --> 00:06:37,463 Well, they have devices that that's a breathing barrier 151 00:06:37,463 --> 00:06:39,799 that has a one way valve that lets the air go in. 152 00:06:39,799 --> 00:06:41,167 And it doesn't let 153 00:06:41,167 --> 00:06:44,737 their vomit, their saliva, their goobers come up into your mouth. 154 00:06:44,737 --> 00:06:47,840 If they were to happen to puke during this process, which is. 155 00:06:48,141 --> 00:06:49,041 It does happen. 156 00:06:49,041 --> 00:06:52,044 Unfortunately, that's a thing that will happen. 157 00:06:52,211 --> 00:06:55,081 But the thing is that's, that's an okay thing. 158 00:06:55,081 --> 00:06:58,117 But on the flip side, is like, people still need the oxygen, 159 00:06:58,117 --> 00:07:01,120 but if you can't do anything, do compressions, because it gets the heart 160 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,157 reminding itself to go, hey, I have to actually pump. 161 00:07:04,157 --> 00:07:04,857 We gotta work. 162 00:07:04,857 --> 00:07:06,426 Because if I don't pump again, 163 00:07:06,426 --> 00:07:09,061 my blood's not going to get to the brain in the other vital organs. 164 00:07:09,061 --> 00:07:10,263 So it's it's a both. 165 00:07:10,263 --> 00:07:12,865 If you don't know what to do, you could just start compressions 166 00:07:12,865 --> 00:07:16,402 and then do it at a beat of 100 or 120 beats per minute. 167 00:07:16,402 --> 00:07:19,439 So, like, think, Another One Bites the Dust if you're in a morbid 168 00:07:19,439 --> 00:07:23,009 feeling or another or, Stayin Alive or like. 169 00:07:23,042 --> 00:07:25,244 Okay, I, I could do Stayin Alive. Baby Shark. 170 00:07:25,244 --> 00:07:26,679 that means that I do think, 171 00:07:27,647 --> 00:07:28,414 not the dance. 172 00:07:28,414 --> 00:07:30,950 Okay, but I can certainly do this. 173 00:07:30,950 --> 00:07:31,451 All right. 174 00:07:31,451 --> 00:07:34,420 But just to get that rhythm in your head, and you just go and. 175 00:07:34,420 --> 00:07:35,655 120 beats. 176 00:07:35,655 --> 00:07:38,624 So how many compressions is that per minute then? 177 00:07:38,624 --> 00:07:41,627 So that's about, 178 00:07:42,128 --> 00:07:43,463 make me do math this morning. 179 00:07:43,463 --> 00:07:43,963 No. I'm sorry. 180 00:07:43,963 --> 00:07:47,200 No, 101 hundred, 120 beats per minute. 181 00:07:47,233 --> 00:07:47,667 Right. 182 00:07:47,667 --> 00:07:51,838 So 30 compressions would be about 18 to 20s per 30 compressions. 183 00:07:51,904 --> 00:07:54,674 Okay, there you go. The math part. 184 00:07:54,674 --> 00:07:55,708 I put her on the spot. 185 00:07:55,708 --> 00:07:57,243 I didn't intend to do that. 186 00:07:57,243 --> 00:07:59,846 How do you know whether to do 187 00:07:59,846 --> 00:08:03,583 just the compressions or to go to mouth to mouth? 188 00:08:03,583 --> 00:08:05,384 I mean, how do you know which one? 189 00:08:05,384 --> 00:08:07,587 I in fact, it's funny because I did not ask Andrea 190 00:08:07,587 --> 00:08:09,889 if she did mouth to mouth or just did compression, 191 00:08:09,889 --> 00:08:11,691 but how do you know which one to do? 192 00:08:11,691 --> 00:08:16,028 How how in that moment, how do you know, which one to do? 193 00:08:16,195 --> 00:08:20,433 So if you're if your heart is not pumping, you won't get the oxygen to the brain. 194 00:08:20,566 --> 00:08:22,635 So you have to start with compressions. Okay. 195 00:08:22,635 --> 00:08:24,704 So so you start with compressions at. 196 00:08:24,704 --> 00:08:28,274 The basic, most basic level of training I would say just start with compressions 197 00:08:28,274 --> 00:08:29,308 like higher levels of training. 198 00:08:29,308 --> 00:08:31,577 There's other reasons why you would start with other things. 199 00:08:31,577 --> 00:08:34,413 But just to keep it simple, start with compressions. 200 00:08:34,413 --> 00:08:38,184 Your body has about 5 to 7 minutes worth of oxygen in it anyways. 201 00:08:38,184 --> 00:08:41,754 So usually just compression only CPR is going to give that person 202 00:08:41,754 --> 00:08:45,157 a better chance of survival than not doing anything at all. 203 00:08:45,224 --> 00:08:48,327 Because when the blood stops flowing after three minutes, you get brain 204 00:08:48,327 --> 00:08:51,330 damage to the brain and after ten minutes it's irreversible. 205 00:08:51,497 --> 00:08:52,632 Now there's always exceptions. 206 00:08:52,632 --> 00:08:54,433 There's always miracles that happen, you know? 207 00:08:54,433 --> 00:08:56,068 But statistically speaking, 208 00:08:56,068 --> 00:08:58,337 after three minutes of no oxygen to the brain, 209 00:08:58,337 --> 00:09:00,540 that person is going to start having cells die. 210 00:09:00,540 --> 00:09:02,575 So it's important that we start doing something. 211 00:09:02,575 --> 00:09:06,812 So call 911, start the compressions and then just go hard and fast. 212 00:09:06,979 --> 00:09:07,747 Keep going. 213 00:09:07,747 --> 00:09:08,948 And but you said it 214 00:09:08,948 --> 00:09:12,251 so you're on the phone with 911, you go “but I don't know how to do CPR”. 215 00:09:12,251 --> 00:09:13,452 Can you walk me through this. 216 00:09:13,452 --> 00:09:18,124 And they will literally tell you start the compressions now, do ‘X’ number. 217 00:09:18,124 --> 00:09:21,427 And so so they'll tell you put your hand in the center of their chest. 218 00:09:21,427 --> 00:09:23,296 I usually tell people, take your middle finger, 219 00:09:23,296 --> 00:09:24,630 find the armpit line, 220 00:09:24,630 --> 00:09:26,999 and then just place the center of your hand in the sternum, 221 00:09:26,999 --> 00:09:29,101 place it over top or hold your other hand. 222 00:09:29,101 --> 00:09:31,237 Put your arm straight and just push. 223 00:09:31,237 --> 00:09:33,573 And that's it. That's it. It's pretty simple. 224 00:09:33,573 --> 00:09:38,411 So you do you do this continuously or do you do you know, 225 00:09:39,712 --> 00:09:43,215 the prescribed number in that in that one minute or whatever it is, period. 226 00:09:43,382 --> 00:09:46,886 And then stop and then start again or you just keep going nonstop. 227 00:09:46,986 --> 00:09:49,288 So it depends on your training, if you've had training 228 00:09:49,288 --> 00:09:54,093 and if you understand the rhythm there's 30 compressions and then two breaths okay. 229 00:09:54,093 --> 00:09:56,696 So 30 take two breast and start over again. 230 00:09:56,696 --> 00:09:57,897 And when you're breathing it's. 231 00:09:57,897 --> 00:10:01,200 Pretty rigorous I'm setting here thinking about that. 232 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,204 If I've got to do 30 those I got two breaths I go right back at it again. 233 00:10:05,204 --> 00:10:05,638 Yeah. 234 00:10:05,638 --> 00:10:09,175 And you're waiting 8 to 10, 15 minutes to get an ambulance there. 235 00:10:09,241 --> 00:10:11,911 That's why it's important to have more than one person trained. Oh. 236 00:10:11,911 --> 00:10:14,313 So every two minutes you switch. 237 00:10:14,313 --> 00:10:16,749 And then here's the extra bonus information. 238 00:10:16,749 --> 00:10:20,152 If you have an AED, use that because that's going to help someone who's in true 239 00:10:20,219 --> 00:10:21,120 cardiac arrest. 240 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,890 The AED will reset the heart so that that person can have a best chance 241 00:10:24,890 --> 00:10:25,391 of survival. 242 00:10:25,391 --> 00:10:29,895 Statistically speaking, you will have 70 to 80% chance of survival 243 00:10:29,895 --> 00:10:32,898 if you throw that AED in the mix versus just CPR. 244 00:10:33,032 --> 00:10:36,202 Okay, when we come back from the break, I'm going to talk about that AED, 245 00:10:36,302 --> 00:10:39,772 because one of the things that I as I was going through the notes for the show 246 00:10:39,772 --> 00:10:41,741 this morning was thinking about was, wait a minute, 247 00:10:41,741 --> 00:10:44,610 you mean I got to grab those paddles and go shock somebody? 248 00:10:44,610 --> 00:10:46,379 I mean, you see it all the time on television. 249 00:10:46,379 --> 00:10:48,714 You're like, I'm not so sure I want to do that. 250 00:10:48,714 --> 00:10:52,451 So when we come back, I want you to talk about what is that like? 251 00:10:53,052 --> 00:10:57,156 What's the risk there if you don't do it right, how do you do it right? 252 00:10:57,156 --> 00:10:59,025 And there's obviously training for that. 253 00:10:59,025 --> 00:11:02,795 And it's really funny because, you'll see a lot of businesses 254 00:11:02,795 --> 00:11:05,464 now have those on the wall right in their business. 255 00:11:05,464 --> 00:11:06,132 So they're there. 256 00:11:06,132 --> 00:11:08,267 But you have to know what you're doing before you use it. All right. 257 00:11:08,267 --> 00:11:09,268 When we come back to the break. 258 00:11:09,268 --> 00:11:11,270 We're going to talk with Katie about the AED. 259 00:11:11,270 --> 00:11:12,571 How do you use those paddles? 260 00:11:12,571 --> 00:11:15,007 How do you know if it's right or wrong, whatever the case may be. 261 00:11:15,007 --> 00:11:19,578 But if you want information, her company is called Ready Train Go. 262 00:11:19,712 --> 00:11:22,348 They train people all over the country. This is what they do. 263 00:11:22,348 --> 00:11:25,951 They do a lot more, which we'll talk about in some of the upcoming segments. 264 00:11:26,118 --> 00:11:34,427 But you want to reach out to her 636-439-8761 265 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:38,597 or ReadyTrainGo.com ReadyTrainGo.com. 266 00:11:38,731 --> 00:11:40,800 Stay tuned. We'll be right back after the break. 267 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,302 You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate 268 00:11:43,302 --> 00:11:46,305 Broadcasting here on the HIA Radio Network. 269 00:11:46,505 --> 00:11:48,507 Coast to coast Cross, USA. 270 00:11:48,507 --> 00:11:49,341 Don't go anywhere. 271 00:12:00,219 --> 00:12:01,020 Welcome back. 272 00:12:01,020 --> 00:12:04,056 You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate broadcasting coast 273 00:12:04,056 --> 00:12:07,660 to coast across USA here on the HIA Radio Network. 274 00:12:07,860 --> 00:12:08,561 You can find out 275 00:12:08,561 --> 00:12:12,331 more about us by going to the website AmericasHealthcareAdvocate.com. 276 00:12:12,331 --> 00:12:14,934 All the shows are on the podcast platforms 277 00:12:14,934 --> 00:12:18,604 and on our YouTube platform in the studio with me, Katie Radginski. 278 00:12:18,671 --> 00:12:20,706 She is the founder of Ready Train Go. 279 00:12:20,706 --> 00:12:23,442 What are we talking about? We're talking about CPR. 280 00:12:23,442 --> 00:12:26,545 And in this segment we're going to talk about AEDs. 281 00:12:26,545 --> 00:12:30,116 So those of you watching this, obviously you're going to be able to see this. 282 00:12:30,116 --> 00:12:32,785 Those of you listening to us on the radio, the podcast can't see it. 283 00:12:32,785 --> 00:12:37,623 Sitting in front of me is a lime green AED, automatic. 284 00:12:37,656 --> 00:12:39,058 Explain this thing will you, 285 00:12:39,058 --> 00:12:42,194 because it looks very sophisticated and complicated to me. 286 00:12:42,328 --> 00:12:43,863 So it's like it's the shock machine. 287 00:12:43,863 --> 00:12:46,265 That's what people, they call it, and they're scared of it. 288 00:12:46,265 --> 00:12:48,667 But I don't want you to be scared of it because it's only going to. 289 00:12:48,667 --> 00:12:50,202 Long as you don't use it on me. Katie. 290 00:12:50,202 --> 00:12:53,038 I'm good. I can't, so that's the beauty of it, I can't. 291 00:12:53,038 --> 00:12:58,110 So the AED is actually only going to read, two different types of, of rhythm. 292 00:12:58,110 --> 00:13:00,846 So ventricular fibrillation, ventricular tachycardia. 293 00:13:00,846 --> 00:13:04,150 So that's fancy for the heart spazzes out in two special rhythms. 294 00:13:04,150 --> 00:13:05,718 One is where the heart 295 00:13:06,685 --> 00:13:07,486 kind of goes into, 296 00:13:07,486 --> 00:13:10,456 I guess spastic mode, where it just kind of 297 00:13:10,456 --> 00:13:12,825 like that kind of a rhythm for those who are just listening. 298 00:13:12,825 --> 00:13:14,794 And then the other one, it's just going from top 299 00:13:14,794 --> 00:13:16,729 to bottom, electrical impulses going up and down. 300 00:13:16,729 --> 00:13:19,498 It's not actually hitting where it needs to hit in the heart. Okay. 301 00:13:19,498 --> 00:13:22,501 So when you have the electrical impulses, it goes, but 302 00:13:22,601 --> 00:13:25,304 when it gets out of whack, it goes in those two weird rhythms 303 00:13:25,304 --> 00:13:28,107 where the blood can't circulate to the brain on the other vital organs. 304 00:13:28,107 --> 00:13:31,076 The AED comes along and it shocks the heart. 305 00:13:31,076 --> 00:13:35,714 It stops it, and then the heart will, will spontaneously restart. 306 00:13:36,348 --> 00:13:39,118 It's not actually giving you a jump start like jumper cables, okay? 307 00:13:39,118 --> 00:13:42,054 Because that's what I always thought it did. Nope. It's stopping the heart. 308 00:13:42,054 --> 00:13:46,091 Now, if we had a victim that we put the AED on and it said, okay, 309 00:13:46,125 --> 00:13:49,862 we have a shockable rhythm, then it will say, will administer the shock. 310 00:13:49,862 --> 00:13:52,832 Now if you touch the victim who had the pads on it 311 00:13:53,265 --> 00:13:56,268 while I press the shock button, then yes, you die too. 312 00:13:56,535 --> 00:13:59,972 But when you can't, you can't do that unless someone here is in cardiac arrest. 313 00:14:00,206 --> 00:14:02,608 Now, if the person is in what's called asystole, we're going, 314 00:14:03,676 --> 00:14:04,310 like on the movies. 315 00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:07,112 You see them going, oh, quick, quickly. Flatline? Flatline. 316 00:14:07,112 --> 00:14:08,314 Okay, that's not real. 317 00:14:08,314 --> 00:14:11,317 Because this AED will not. 318 00:14:12,251 --> 00:14:13,986 Read. That's not a shockable rhythm. 319 00:14:13,986 --> 00:14:16,689 You can't stop something that's already stopped. Okay. 320 00:14:16,689 --> 00:14:19,491 And so that's why it's super important that you understand, 321 00:14:19,491 --> 00:14:22,494 you can't make things worse and excuse me, they're already dead, 322 00:14:22,494 --> 00:14:26,832 so I can't make them more dead by stopping the heart to make the heart not stop. 323 00:14:26,866 --> 00:14:29,635 And that won't bring them back. 324 00:14:29,635 --> 00:14:31,103 Not if they're they're flatlined now. 325 00:14:31,103 --> 00:14:31,904 Correct. Right. 326 00:14:31,904 --> 00:14:35,341 So then now we're back to compressions and mouth to mouth. 327 00:14:35,341 --> 00:14:37,977 Correct. So the heart now our CPR. 328 00:14:37,977 --> 00:14:40,613 That's a remarkable clarification because I always thought 329 00:14:40,613 --> 00:14:42,581 you watch television shows, guys. 330 00:14:42,581 --> 00:14:44,984 They show the flatline. That's the first thing they show. 331 00:14:44,984 --> 00:14:46,752 That's baloney. It is. 332 00:14:46,752 --> 00:14:49,722 And so it's like a glorified stuff of like, 333 00:14:49,722 --> 00:14:52,892 now with medical intervention, with other methodologies. Yes. 334 00:14:52,892 --> 00:14:55,594 You can bring someone back from what they call asystole. 335 00:14:55,594 --> 00:14:59,465 Not always, but it's just sometimes just not with this machine. 336 00:14:59,732 --> 00:15:02,501 So this one, again, is foolproof. 337 00:15:02,501 --> 00:15:05,337 The person goes down, you're you're cutting the steps. 338 00:15:05,337 --> 00:15:06,438 Basically, you turn it on. 339 00:15:06,438 --> 00:15:08,207 The hardest part of the whole thing is turn it on. 340 00:15:08,207 --> 00:15:09,441 It will start talking. 341 00:15:09,441 --> 00:15:10,576 It will like it will beep. 342 00:15:10,576 --> 00:15:14,179 It will say in a very commanding voice like, stand clear and it'll say, 343 00:15:14,380 --> 00:15:15,781 remove patients clothing. 344 00:15:15,781 --> 00:15:17,249 So you remove the clothes with scissors. 345 00:15:17,249 --> 00:15:19,318 So like this has scissors in it. 346 00:15:19,318 --> 00:15:21,687 These will cut through a penny. They're that strong. 347 00:15:21,687 --> 00:15:23,789 It will cut through the shirt you cut through. 348 00:15:23,789 --> 00:15:25,457 If it's a woman you cut down their bra. 349 00:15:25,457 --> 00:15:27,660 Because yes, it has a underwire in it. 350 00:15:27,660 --> 00:15:30,663 You don't want to have electrical burns on that person. So. 351 00:15:30,663 --> 00:15:32,064 Okay, cut straight down. 352 00:15:32,064 --> 00:15:33,332 The person will get new clothes. 353 00:15:33,332 --> 00:15:34,266 It'll be okay. 354 00:15:34,266 --> 00:15:37,036 Like, I don't want to ruin this expensive shirt. 355 00:15:37,036 --> 00:15:38,837 No, no. Like cut it off. 356 00:15:38,837 --> 00:15:41,507 And then you're placing the pads, one on the top right 357 00:15:41,507 --> 00:15:43,609 between the collarbone and the, the nipple line. 358 00:15:43,609 --> 00:15:44,610 So top upper right 359 00:15:44,610 --> 00:15:48,714 and then lower part of the sternum below the armpit about two inches. 360 00:15:48,948 --> 00:15:52,051 Avoid the breast tissue So it's not like they show 361 00:15:53,285 --> 00:15:54,153 on television. 362 00:15:54,153 --> 00:15:56,822 You guys you watch they're putting a right here on the chest. 363 00:15:56,822 --> 00:15:58,023 That's not how you do it. 364 00:15:58,023 --> 00:16:00,459 No not for this type of machine. Right. 365 00:16:00,459 --> 00:16:04,263 So it's top upper right lower left because it wants the electrical impulse 366 00:16:04,263 --> 00:16:05,731 to go through that heart. 367 00:16:05,731 --> 00:16:08,500 Now if you have a child and you'll see pictures 368 00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:11,503 on the AED they actually have pictures on the actual pads. 369 00:16:11,537 --> 00:16:13,405 Okay. Where it's here and here. 370 00:16:13,405 --> 00:16:17,343 Now the Zoll brand, they have a, responsive feedback device. 371 00:16:17,343 --> 00:16:20,045 Some people call it a brick. It's just an extra pad that goes in the middle. 372 00:16:20,045 --> 00:16:22,748 This tells you where your hand goes, and then it also 373 00:16:22,748 --> 00:16:25,651 sometimes will speed you up or slow you down on your compressions. 374 00:16:25,651 --> 00:16:27,519 So you put the pads on. 375 00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:29,955 It says stand clear analyzing. 376 00:16:29,955 --> 00:16:33,625 If it says shock advised, then you'll press the shock button and it will light up. 377 00:16:34,860 --> 00:16:37,730 You'll press the shock button, person will get shocked, 378 00:16:37,730 --> 00:16:40,299 and then either they'll come back to life or they won't. 379 00:16:40,299 --> 00:16:43,369 If they don't come back to life, then our job is to do the CPR. 380 00:16:43,369 --> 00:16:46,171 Back to CPR. We’re going, okay heart, remember, you're supposed to beat. 381 00:16:46,171 --> 00:16:47,106 You're supposed to go. 382 00:16:47,106 --> 00:16:48,774 So this is a big green box. 383 00:16:48,774 --> 00:16:50,409 What's inside of there? 384 00:16:50,409 --> 00:16:53,345 The pads. No, the pads are right here. Just. 385 00:16:53,345 --> 00:16:54,680 Okay. What do those pads look like? 386 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,149 Because that's not what I'm. That's not what I envision. 387 00:16:57,149 --> 00:16:57,916 So the pads. 388 00:16:57,916 --> 00:17:00,185 So think about when you go to the hospital and you get your heart 389 00:17:00,185 --> 00:17:02,521 read like the the EEG, the EKGs Yeah, yeah, yeah. 390 00:17:02,521 --> 00:17:04,089 They're giant sticker pads. 391 00:17:04,089 --> 00:17:06,358 Maybe like 2 or 3in. Right. 392 00:17:06,358 --> 00:17:07,459 And they're super sticky. 393 00:17:07,459 --> 00:17:08,994 So they'll go on top 394 00:17:08,994 --> 00:17:11,864 and then people will ask, well, what happens if they have chest hair? 395 00:17:11,864 --> 00:17:15,000 Well, if you cut down the clothes and you bare the chest 396 00:17:15,134 --> 00:17:18,504 and it looks like Chewbacca, then you probably need to take the razor 397 00:17:18,737 --> 00:17:21,573 that's in here because there's a razor inside. 398 00:17:21,573 --> 00:17:23,675 And then you do a quick shave job. It's not going to be pretty. 399 00:17:23,675 --> 00:17:24,610 Don't worry about razor burn. 400 00:17:24,610 --> 00:17:27,346 Just kind of shave it, shave it real quick and then stick it on. 401 00:17:28,380 --> 00:17:30,716 Wow. And you just go from there. 402 00:17:30,716 --> 00:17:34,086 So, like here and here, press the shock button. 403 00:17:34,086 --> 00:17:36,555 After you start the CPR, let's say that it doesn't work. 404 00:17:36,555 --> 00:17:38,190 They don't come back, start CPR. 405 00:17:38,190 --> 00:17:40,859 After two minutes, the AED will reanalyze it again 406 00:17:40,859 --> 00:17:43,095 because it'll say, okay, did the heart catch on to this 407 00:17:43,095 --> 00:17:44,196 rhythm it's supposed to be doing? 408 00:17:44,196 --> 00:17:44,897 How does it do that? 409 00:17:44,897 --> 00:17:47,566 Is that is that do you attach it? 410 00:17:47,566 --> 00:17:50,869 It reads what's actually going in the body to those pads. 411 00:17:50,903 --> 00:17:51,336 It does. 412 00:17:51,336 --> 00:17:55,174 There's electrical wires inside the pads. 413 00:17:55,207 --> 00:17:55,541 Got it. 414 00:17:55,541 --> 00:17:56,942 So it's like stickiness pads. 415 00:17:56,942 --> 00:17:58,710 Wires goes into here. 416 00:17:58,710 --> 00:18:01,246 And then the magicalness happens I don't know the technical. 417 00:18:01,246 --> 00:18:02,881 Electricity part of it. 418 00:18:02,881 --> 00:18:03,782 But it happens. 419 00:18:03,782 --> 00:18:06,852 Also this button here that if the person needs, 420 00:18:07,853 --> 00:18:08,787 if it's, if it's a 421 00:18:08,787 --> 00:18:11,790 person who is 55 pounds and. 422 00:18:11,857 --> 00:18:14,493 Morbidly obese. No, no, 55 pounds. 423 00:18:14,493 --> 00:18:17,463 Oh 55. Not kilograms, but okay, 55 pounds. 424 00:18:17,463 --> 00:18:21,333 So like eight years or older then they would need to have pads. 425 00:18:22,134 --> 00:18:24,970 Adult size pads if they're less than 55 pounds, 426 00:18:24,970 --> 00:18:26,004 if they're eight years old or younger. 427 00:18:26,004 --> 00:18:27,940 So two year old, three year old. Right. 428 00:18:27,940 --> 00:18:29,508 Then you would use pediatric pads. 429 00:18:29,508 --> 00:18:32,044 Now it will dial down the amount of energy that it gets. 430 00:18:32,044 --> 00:18:34,646 That there are pediatric pads in there, not. In this one though. 431 00:18:34,646 --> 00:18:35,848 Okay. How interesting. 432 00:18:35,848 --> 00:18:38,016 So this one looks like there's a button that you press 433 00:18:38,016 --> 00:18:40,486 that says whether it's a pediatric one or not. 434 00:18:40,486 --> 00:18:43,822 So this one will dial down the joules electrical impulses 435 00:18:43,889 --> 00:18:47,192 sent so that, it won't get as much energy. 436 00:18:47,192 --> 00:18:49,795 Now, let's say you forget to press the button. It's okay. 437 00:18:49,795 --> 00:18:53,098 You can still use the adults energy on the child, 438 00:18:53,098 --> 00:18:55,534 because the body knows what to do with the extra electricity. 439 00:18:55,534 --> 00:18:57,436 It will just go out like. 440 00:18:57,436 --> 00:18:58,337 Yes, minor detail. 441 00:18:58,337 --> 00:19:02,274 You might have, internal burns on the heart, but the body will heal 442 00:19:02,274 --> 00:19:04,309 itself. That's, again, the great thing about, 443 00:19:05,544 --> 00:19:06,712 about how our bodies are made. 444 00:19:06,712 --> 00:19:08,680 So you place the pads. 445 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,916 So if it's a child, let's say two year old, 446 00:19:10,916 --> 00:19:13,552 their body is probably going to be not, 447 00:19:13,552 --> 00:19:16,321 you're going to be too small to have the pads in the traditional placement. 448 00:19:16,321 --> 00:19:18,824 So you'd put one on the front and then one on the back. 449 00:19:18,824 --> 00:19:19,691 And there are pictures. 450 00:19:19,691 --> 00:19:21,927 That there's a picture that shows because they. 451 00:19:21,927 --> 00:19:23,495 Saw in the front one, back. Right. 452 00:19:23,495 --> 00:19:27,733 And that way it goes through the heart in that, that specific way. 453 00:19:27,799 --> 00:19:28,934 So same with an infant. 454 00:19:28,934 --> 00:19:30,903 You can use these on infants as well. 455 00:19:30,903 --> 00:19:33,906 If a child goes into cardiac arrest and you don't know, 456 00:19:34,406 --> 00:19:35,674 then you could place it on there. 457 00:19:35,674 --> 00:19:36,441 This is going to be 458 00:19:36,441 --> 00:19:39,444 what's going to save someone's life if they go into cardiac arrest. 459 00:19:39,778 --> 00:19:41,480 And really, you can't mess it up. 460 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:41,980 Like I said, 461 00:19:41,980 --> 00:19:45,551 the one thing is you turn it on and listen to the instructions and that. 462 00:19:45,951 --> 00:19:48,387 And it tells you what to do. Absolutely. 463 00:19:48,387 --> 00:19:49,121 So that's that. 464 00:19:49,121 --> 00:19:52,024 That is absolutely so so it's not again, 465 00:19:52,024 --> 00:19:53,659 we're going back to what we see on television. 466 00:19:53,659 --> 00:19:55,327 It's not the two pads on the wall. 467 00:19:55,327 --> 00:19:58,297 And you grab them and you and you put the two pads on them 468 00:19:58,297 --> 00:20:00,032 because they're quote unquote flat lighting. 469 00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:02,334 If they flatline, you're not even using us. 470 00:20:02,334 --> 00:20:04,469 Right? Well, and we're not in a hospital setting either. 471 00:20:04,469 --> 00:20:05,537 In a hospital setting. 472 00:20:05,537 --> 00:20:06,505 They have the paddles. 473 00:20:06,505 --> 00:20:09,508 So those paddles exist, but they look in different shapes and sizes, 474 00:20:09,575 --> 00:20:12,578 and they actually have a dial on them that tells you, 475 00:20:12,644 --> 00:20:14,646 what joules or what weight the person is. 476 00:20:14,646 --> 00:20:16,014 So the doctors and the nurses on 477 00:20:16,014 --> 00:20:19,818 the techs can actually figure out how much energy that person needs. 478 00:20:19,818 --> 00:20:23,689 This is just general for anybody, to be able to use. 479 00:20:23,689 --> 00:20:24,523 And so it's like. 480 00:20:24,523 --> 00:20:27,859 So when you train people on CPR, do you automatically train them 481 00:20:27,859 --> 00:20:29,161 on how to use the AED? 482 00:20:29,161 --> 00:20:31,296 I do, yes. Okay. Super important. 483 00:20:31,296 --> 00:20:31,697 Yeah. 484 00:20:31,697 --> 00:20:34,700 Obviously I mean that's intimidating to look at that thing 485 00:20:34,967 --> 00:20:37,736 and not now once you've explained it, that 486 00:20:39,238 --> 00:20:41,340 makes it sound like it's not all that difficult to do. 487 00:20:41,340 --> 00:20:44,243 And then your point, you push the button on the box 488 00:20:44,243 --> 00:20:45,877 and the box tells you what to do. 489 00:20:45,877 --> 00:20:46,345 Right. 490 00:20:46,345 --> 00:20:48,080 So it's going to tell you open the case, 491 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,917 get the get the pads out, put the pads on, yada yada yada. 492 00:20:51,917 --> 00:20:53,051 Do all of that. 493 00:20:53,051 --> 00:20:54,653 Okay. How interesting. 494 00:20:54,653 --> 00:20:57,656 So I challenge our listeners today that when 495 00:20:57,656 --> 00:21:01,560 when they go to the store, the next time, go look for the AED. 496 00:21:01,693 --> 00:21:03,428 Just look at it. It's not that scary. 497 00:21:03,428 --> 00:21:07,232 I mean, it's got two buttons on and shock and then it has the pads. 498 00:21:07,232 --> 00:21:10,669 So like look and you'll be surprised at how many you actually see in your area. 499 00:21:10,969 --> 00:21:11,837 It's remarkable. 500 00:21:11,837 --> 00:21:13,672 You know, you don't know what you don't know. 501 00:21:13,672 --> 00:21:14,172 All right. 502 00:21:14,172 --> 00:21:16,508 And this is great to have Katie here today. 503 00:21:16,508 --> 00:21:18,744 I had no idea about any of this. 504 00:21:18,744 --> 00:21:21,446 Right. So to me this is fascinating. 505 00:21:21,446 --> 00:21:23,615 It’s gets great education. It's a great opportunity. 506 00:21:23,615 --> 00:21:24,850 You've got a business 507 00:21:24,850 --> 00:21:29,087 or whatever the case may be, and you don't have this in place. 508 00:21:29,321 --> 00:21:31,023 This is probably something you should think about. 509 00:21:31,023 --> 00:21:32,457 You might want to give her a call. 510 00:21:32,457 --> 00:21:34,326 636-439-8761. 511 00:21:34,326 --> 00:21:38,130 ReadyTrainGo.com is 512 00:21:38,130 --> 00:21:41,900 the website. 513 00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:43,302 ReadyTrainGo.com. 514 00:21:43,302 --> 00:21:45,170 She can help you anywhere in the country. 515 00:21:45,170 --> 00:21:46,805 Lady knows what she's talking about. 516 00:21:46,805 --> 00:21:49,207 Stay tuned. We'll be right back after the break. 517 00:21:49,207 --> 00:21:51,643 You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate 518 00:21:51,643 --> 00:21:54,646 broadcasting here on the HIA Radio Network. 519 00:21:54,746 --> 00:21:57,749 Once again, that website you want to learn more about what Katie does. 520 00:21:57,749 --> 00:22:00,085 ReadyTrainGo.com. 521 00:22:11,063 --> 00:22:11,897 Welcome back. 522 00:22:11,897 --> 00:22:15,000 You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate show, broadcasting 523 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,937 coast to coast across USA here on the HIA Radio Network. 524 00:22:19,071 --> 00:22:21,940 I want to say hello to all of our stations out in Cape 525 00:22:21,940 --> 00:22:29,181 Girardeau, Missouri, KAPE 1550-AM, 100.3-FM and 95.7-FM. 526 00:22:29,181 --> 00:22:29,981 That's why I said all. 527 00:22:29,981 --> 00:22:31,650 They've got three radio stations there. 528 00:22:31,650 --> 00:22:34,286 We're on there on Saturdays and Sundays. 529 00:22:34,286 --> 00:22:35,587 Here's a little piece of trivia. 530 00:22:35,587 --> 00:22:38,623 You don't know the most famous talk radio show host 531 00:22:38,623 --> 00:22:41,927 in the world actually started out on KAPE. 532 00:22:41,927 --> 00:22:43,228 That would be Rush Limbaugh. 533 00:22:43,228 --> 00:22:45,764 So I've had the privilege of broadcasting in that studio. 534 00:22:45,764 --> 00:22:46,832 Great people down there. 535 00:22:46,832 --> 00:22:50,102 We're very happy to be on in Cape Girardeau, Paducah, Kentucky, 536 00:22:50,435 --> 00:22:52,437 that's the broadcast area they broadcast in. 537 00:22:52,437 --> 00:22:54,539 And we want to thank them for keeping us on the air. 538 00:22:54,539 --> 00:22:57,008 In studio with me today. Katie Radginski. 539 00:22:57,008 --> 00:22:59,945 And we're talking about her company, Ready Train Go. 540 00:22:59,945 --> 00:23:01,646 We're learning a lot today. 541 00:23:01,646 --> 00:23:03,749 There's a lot here I didn't know. 542 00:23:03,749 --> 00:23:05,751 First question I want to ask before we introduce 543 00:23:05,751 --> 00:23:08,520 the audience to Manuel, we'll get to him in a minute. 544 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,523 He's the silent guest, by the way, for those of you listening on radio, 545 00:23:12,057 --> 00:23:16,261 is how hard when people are when you're doing these compressions, Katie, 546 00:23:16,628 --> 00:23:18,797 how hard do you push and should be worried about, 547 00:23:18,797 --> 00:23:22,534 oh, I might break a rib or I might talk to me about how that works. 548 00:23:22,534 --> 00:23:24,669 So you want to press down at least two inches. 549 00:23:24,669 --> 00:23:26,838 So people will debate, like how much body mass 550 00:23:26,838 --> 00:23:29,708 you have to have to actually press down on somebody that hard. 551 00:23:29,708 --> 00:23:31,376 And it all depends on the person. 552 00:23:31,376 --> 00:23:33,011 You know. Are they, are they physically fit? 553 00:23:33,011 --> 00:23:35,013 Are they not. Can they are they coordinated. 554 00:23:35,013 --> 00:23:36,515 Are they not. But two inches. 555 00:23:36,515 --> 00:23:39,418 Is that the maximum depth that you really want to push for an adult. 556 00:23:40,352 --> 00:23:43,355 And so and to answer the question about like the, 557 00:23:43,855 --> 00:23:46,892 will I break a rib, you might and that's okay because think about it. 558 00:23:46,892 --> 00:23:50,295 You're doing the exact opposite thing that the body's made to do. 559 00:23:50,295 --> 00:23:52,798 The ribs are made to protect the heart and the other vital organs. 560 00:23:52,798 --> 00:23:55,934 And so if you're pushing on the ribs, of course something's going to give. 561 00:23:56,401 --> 00:23:58,203 You're probably going to separate some cartilage. 562 00:23:58,203 --> 00:23:59,671 You might crack a rib. 563 00:23:59,671 --> 00:24:01,339 You might just, 564 00:24:01,339 --> 00:24:04,843 make a giant, nasty bruise on the person, and yet the body will heal. 565 00:24:04,876 --> 00:24:05,710 But they're alive. 566 00:24:05,710 --> 00:24:06,378 They're alive. 567 00:24:06,378 --> 00:24:07,045 Right. 568 00:24:07,045 --> 00:24:10,048 Again, like I said earlier, you can't make it worse than it already is. 569 00:24:10,215 --> 00:24:13,218 Like, if they're dead, you helping them 570 00:24:13,318 --> 00:24:17,689 to have their heart pump the blood to the brain and the other vital organs. 571 00:24:17,689 --> 00:24:20,058 It can't do anything that's worse. So I'm going to 572 00:24:21,259 --> 00:24:22,594 guess that if you've got 573 00:24:22,594 --> 00:24:27,599 somebody that's a 250 pound, 300 pound male, and you're trying to do this, 574 00:24:27,599 --> 00:24:30,635 you're going to be pushing a lot harder than your 124 pound woman. 575 00:24:30,869 --> 00:24:32,003 Absolutely. So, okay, the. 576 00:24:32,003 --> 00:24:34,439 First couple of compressions are going to be the hardest. 577 00:24:34,439 --> 00:24:38,276 And once again, once it kind of gives a little that means it'll separate. 578 00:24:38,276 --> 00:24:41,079 Then you'll be able to, do more compressions. 579 00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:44,783 Now, if you are working with someone who is 300, 300 plus pounds, 580 00:24:45,383 --> 00:24:48,153 you’ve got to call 911, and you have to tell them, 581 00:24:48,153 --> 00:24:49,788 hey, this is someone who's larger. 582 00:24:49,788 --> 00:24:51,957 You might need a bariatric gurney. 583 00:24:51,957 --> 00:24:53,525 You might need they have machines. 584 00:24:53,525 --> 00:24:55,594 I forget the name of the machine, but it looks like a spider. 585 00:24:55,594 --> 00:24:59,397 And it actually manually does the compressions around that person. 586 00:25:00,131 --> 00:25:01,066 Holy cow. Right. 587 00:25:01,066 --> 00:25:03,034 It's it's kind of scary looking because it's intense. 588 00:25:03,034 --> 00:25:04,202 It's like they hook the person up. 589 00:25:04,202 --> 00:25:05,103 It looks like spider 590 00:25:05,103 --> 00:25:09,040 fingers that go around the the chest, and it just: domp, domp, domp. 591 00:25:09,074 --> 00:25:10,141 And it just keeps going. 592 00:25:10,141 --> 00:25:13,111 So like that helps the paramedics whenever they come. 593 00:25:13,111 --> 00:25:14,746 Especially if it's someone of larger stature 594 00:25:14,746 --> 00:25:16,982 because they're not going to be able to sustain that. 595 00:25:16,982 --> 00:25:19,351 Like I said, every two minutes you should be switching out. 596 00:25:19,351 --> 00:25:22,254 Otherwise you're going to be basically doing sloppy CPR 597 00:25:22,254 --> 00:25:25,190 and not helping that person have a chance of survival. 598 00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:27,292 I tend to think about like, if you're going to, 599 00:25:27,292 --> 00:25:28,660 have you ever exercised before, 600 00:25:28,660 --> 00:25:30,862 and you go on an elliptical, so like the elliptical. 601 00:25:30,862 --> 00:25:34,599 Has those things that go back and forth like the last 30s of your, your stint 602 00:25:34,633 --> 00:25:36,902 that you've done and you're like, I'll just do it for 30 more seconds. 603 00:25:36,902 --> 00:25:38,270 Well, you've already pushed past your limit. 604 00:25:38,270 --> 00:25:41,139 Now you're just blop in your head back and forth and have on your arms, 605 00:25:41,139 --> 00:25:42,741 and you're letting the machine do the work for you. 606 00:25:42,741 --> 00:25:45,610 That's sloppy CPR at its finest. That's an example of that. 607 00:25:45,610 --> 00:25:49,414 You're not actually doing anything for your body by staying on an elliptical. 608 00:25:49,414 --> 00:25:51,683 The extra 30s just flopping and hanging on. 609 00:25:51,683 --> 00:25:55,320 So it's like change out before you get to that point of exhaustion. 610 00:25:55,687 --> 00:25:56,922 Interesting. 611 00:25:56,922 --> 00:25:57,255 All right. 612 00:25:57,255 --> 00:26:00,358 Let's introduce Manuel, he's sitting over here for those of you that are, 613 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:03,862 listening on radio, you can't see Manuel, but he has a mustache. 614 00:26:04,496 --> 00:26:06,831 And what is man world's function? Katie. 615 00:26:06,831 --> 00:26:09,000 So today he's my advertising director. 616 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,169 He's coming here just to market with me. 617 00:26:11,169 --> 00:26:14,506 But in all seriousness, though, he's an example of one of the mannequins 618 00:26:14,506 --> 00:26:15,607 that we use. 619 00:26:15,607 --> 00:26:18,043 He is, a CPR mannequin. 620 00:26:18,043 --> 00:26:19,978 So he has, a chest. 621 00:26:19,978 --> 00:26:20,845 He has a torso. 622 00:26:20,845 --> 00:26:23,348 This mannequin today has a mustache on just for grins. 623 00:26:23,348 --> 00:26:24,549 But when we teach classes, 624 00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:27,719 we don't put mustaches on because you have to sanitize the faces. 625 00:26:27,719 --> 00:26:30,488 And that would be gross to have to. Okay. All right. But, 626 00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:32,157 with him, 627 00:26:32,157 --> 00:26:35,193 this is how we teach people how to do the compressions and the CPR. 628 00:26:35,193 --> 00:26:38,129 So he's got an anatomical 629 00:26:38,129 --> 00:26:41,600 sort of anatomically correct chest where he has a chest, a nipple line. 630 00:26:41,766 --> 00:26:45,170 Although everybody won’t look like this when you bare the the chest, 631 00:26:45,170 --> 00:26:48,306 the skin moves weird and everything will be everywhere else. 632 00:26:48,306 --> 00:26:50,141 But most, people have armpits. 633 00:26:50,141 --> 00:26:52,611 When you find the armpit line, you take your middle finger 634 00:26:52,611 --> 00:26:53,778 and you find the center. 635 00:26:53,778 --> 00:26:56,848 So think about to the nose like your nose down, 636 00:26:56,848 --> 00:26:58,516 and then your armpit line kind of trace an “L”. 637 00:26:58,516 --> 00:26:59,551 Like a cross. 638 00:26:59,551 --> 00:27:00,619 And your hand 639 00:27:00,619 --> 00:27:03,722 just goes right in the center and then you'll go straight down. 640 00:27:03,722 --> 00:27:05,690 Now Manuel has a feature where he clicks. 641 00:27:05,690 --> 00:27:08,994 When you hit two inches, he'll click and he'll tell you, hey, that's deep enough. 642 00:27:08,994 --> 00:27:11,997 And that way, you know, when we practice, we auditorial hear it. 643 00:27:12,497 --> 00:27:15,066 Some versions of mannequins will have lights that light up. 644 00:27:15,066 --> 00:27:16,935 I have a different version. 645 00:27:16,935 --> 00:27:19,471 I call her Annie, so she's a cue CPR mannequin 646 00:27:19,471 --> 00:27:23,174 where she has a cord that comes out of her and tells you how fast you're going, 647 00:27:23,675 --> 00:27:26,311 what your depth is, and then if your breaths actually went in. 648 00:27:26,311 --> 00:27:29,280 So when we do the breaths on the mannequin, we pinch the nose. 649 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,583 Depends on the breathing barrier I'm getting way into more stuff. 650 00:27:31,583 --> 00:27:31,816 Yeah. 651 00:27:31,816 --> 00:27:34,152 You know, when you have a certain type of breathing barrier, 652 00:27:34,152 --> 00:27:35,020 you have to pinch the nose. 653 00:27:35,020 --> 00:27:38,023 Otherwise the air will come out the nose when you breathe into their mouth. 654 00:27:38,156 --> 00:27:40,291 But with him, you can pinch the nose and tilt the head back. 655 00:27:40,291 --> 00:27:42,494 His mouth opens up and the chest will actually expand. 656 00:27:42,494 --> 00:27:45,130 So you'll see the chest expanding on the mannequin. 657 00:27:45,130 --> 00:27:47,132 And that's that's Manuel's function, 658 00:27:47,132 --> 00:27:49,534 you know, for that, with the other mannequins that I have, 659 00:27:49,534 --> 00:27:52,170 it'll tell you did the breaths were they efficient enough. 660 00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:55,173 Did it, did you exhale enough to make the 661 00:27:55,540 --> 00:27:58,677 the chest rise so that you get oxygen in the system or not? 662 00:27:58,677 --> 00:27:59,144 And then that way 663 00:27:59,144 --> 00:28:02,147 it gives the students real time feedback so that they when they're practicing, 664 00:28:02,213 --> 00:28:05,216 they know if they're doing CPR good or not. 665 00:28:05,617 --> 00:28:06,351 That's remarkable. 666 00:28:06,351 --> 00:28:09,721 So to me, when I'm looking at this and listening to you, 667 00:28:10,622 --> 00:28:13,091 it's one thing to hear how to do this. 668 00:28:13,091 --> 00:28:16,961 It's something else to actually be able to do it on this mannequin. 669 00:28:16,961 --> 00:28:18,530 And I'm assuming the mannequins 670 00:28:18,530 --> 00:28:20,598 you're going to know the mannequin’s going to tell you 671 00:28:20,598 --> 00:28:22,834 you're not doing this right, or you're doing it right, right. 672 00:28:22,834 --> 00:28:23,668 So you're going to 673 00:28:23,668 --> 00:28:27,372 so you're while you're doing it, you're learning how to do it properly. 674 00:28:27,372 --> 00:28:28,840 Do the compressions. 675 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,341 Take the two breaths. Come back. 676 00:28:30,341 --> 00:28:33,411 If you're going to do the the the mouth to mouth and it's hold the nose, 677 00:28:33,778 --> 00:28:36,548 do the breathing, then go back and do the compressions. 678 00:28:36,548 --> 00:28:39,517 It this is a great way to train people. 679 00:28:39,517 --> 00:28:42,987 The other thing it seems fascinating to me is this gives you confidence. 680 00:28:42,987 --> 00:28:44,923 Hey, you know, I could really do this right now 681 00:28:44,923 --> 00:28:47,926 that I've trained on this thing, I feel like I could really do this. 682 00:28:48,259 --> 00:28:51,329 And that's the thing of the joy of being an instructor that because what. 683 00:28:51,963 --> 00:28:54,933 It is scary to think about doing this to somebody. 684 00:28:54,933 --> 00:28:56,267 Right. You know, am I going to do it right. 685 00:28:56,267 --> 00:28:57,969 I'm going to cause more harm than good. 686 00:28:57,969 --> 00:29:02,674 But if you have this training and my daughter had this training and then 687 00:29:03,842 --> 00:29:06,077 you've got that level of confidence, you can go do this. 688 00:29:06,077 --> 00:29:08,079 And that's our hope. After you attend the class. 689 00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:09,147 That's even one of the goals of it 690 00:29:09,147 --> 00:29:13,418 that you're confident to just respond and to try something, because again. 691 00:29:13,418 --> 00:29:14,719 Something's better than nothing. 692 00:29:14,719 --> 00:29:15,086 Yeah. 693 00:29:15,086 --> 00:29:18,523 So how long is a class like when you train somebody on this? 694 00:29:18,523 --> 00:29:21,726 You let's say you're in a company and they said, we've got five people here 695 00:29:21,726 --> 00:29:23,762 that we're going to train on this, we've got ten people. 696 00:29:23,762 --> 00:29:25,263 We're going to go train everybody, 697 00:29:25,263 --> 00:29:27,599 but we're going to train like ten people, one in each department. 698 00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:30,602 Whatever the case may be, how long does it take to go through that? 699 00:29:30,802 --> 00:29:33,271 You're going to teach them how to do this mouth to mouth. 700 00:29:33,271 --> 00:29:35,640 You’ll teach them compressions. How long does all that take? 701 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,709 So it depends on the course they actually want to take. 702 00:29:37,709 --> 00:29:40,078 So like that's it's more complicated than that. 703 00:29:40,078 --> 00:29:42,347 So it can range from 3 to 5 hours. 704 00:29:42,347 --> 00:29:44,949 It all just depends. On three hours. 705 00:29:44,949 --> 00:29:48,052 So as little as three hours if they just want to learn the quick basics of things. 706 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,023 So we teach through American Red cross certification so people walk away. 707 00:29:52,157 --> 00:29:54,626 That's important to me that like, I didn't make any of this up. 708 00:29:54,626 --> 00:29:56,761 Like, I'm following curriculum. 709 00:29:56,761 --> 00:29:58,129 I'm following what the scientific 710 00:29:58,129 --> 00:30:00,932 advisory board says, saying, hey, this is the standard. 711 00:30:00,932 --> 00:30:03,268 This is a quality of care that we give. 712 00:30:03,268 --> 00:30:06,437 That way, again, not going rogue and just saying, yeah, we'll try this. 713 00:30:07,405 --> 00:30:08,807 Because I have no business doing that. 714 00:30:08,807 --> 00:30:09,107 Right. 715 00:30:09,107 --> 00:30:12,877 So, so 3 to 5 hours and that includes adult 716 00:30:13,144 --> 00:30:17,115 and child and infant CPR, first aid and AED. 717 00:30:17,615 --> 00:30:18,750 Wow. Okay. 718 00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:20,552 So but the basics, 719 00:30:20,552 --> 00:30:23,855 if somebody wants to bring you in to train folks in their company, 720 00:30:23,988 --> 00:30:27,292 you're looking at a three hour program basically for the basic program. 721 00:30:27,759 --> 00:30:29,928 I would say closer to four just to say not. 722 00:30:29,928 --> 00:30:31,563 To cover, but so it's going to be it's 723 00:30:31,563 --> 00:30:33,765 going to take them four hours out of their workday to do this. 724 00:30:33,765 --> 00:30:36,334 If they just show up and do it now, we offer it in different formats. 725 00:30:36,334 --> 00:30:39,504 So we have it in a blended learning where you do half of it online so 726 00:30:39,504 --> 00:30:42,807 they can do the head knowledge online and then they come in person. 727 00:30:42,874 --> 00:30:45,510 Now those would be, you know, two hours with me. 728 00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:49,080 So two hours they do the hands on portion because that's the other component. 729 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,716 Like you need to know like you need to physically do it. 730 00:30:51,716 --> 00:30:54,118 I can't just click a button on a screen and say, yeah, I'm trained 731 00:30:54,118 --> 00:30:57,956 because I don't want my neurosurgeon doing that, or not my cardiologist going 732 00:30:57,956 --> 00:31:01,392 like, yes, we'll do open heart surgery with a button of a mouse like that. 733 00:31:01,392 --> 00:31:02,193 That doesn't make sense. 734 00:31:02,193 --> 00:31:06,965 And so, we have to have that hands on, components to retain the information. 735 00:31:07,198 --> 00:31:11,836 And, and so it can be a two part process where they could get two hours 736 00:31:11,870 --> 00:31:12,470 of training alotted. 737 00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:15,473 And then you come in and bring in Manuel and do the actual training 738 00:31:16,074 --> 00:31:19,110 with the mannequin there in the facility. Wow. 739 00:31:19,244 --> 00:31:20,411 How interesting. 740 00:31:20,411 --> 00:31:23,414 You know, it seems to me that it makes a lot of sense 741 00:31:23,581 --> 00:31:27,252 for companies to think about this, because what you don't want to do 742 00:31:27,252 --> 00:31:30,088 is not think about it and not have anybody this ready to do it. 743 00:31:30,088 --> 00:31:31,356 And here we are in the studio, 744 00:31:31,356 --> 00:31:35,526 and you would right down the hall and, and and got the device right off the wall. 745 00:31:35,526 --> 00:31:37,262 Brought it in here. We just showed it to everybody. 746 00:31:37,262 --> 00:31:41,165 So the I guess the point I'm making is that you don't know 747 00:31:41,165 --> 00:31:42,967 when this is going to be necessary. 748 00:31:42,967 --> 00:31:46,504 And it's far better to have people trained in how to use it than to have 749 00:31:46,504 --> 00:31:51,109 somebody die on the floor in their office because nobody knew how to do CPR. 750 00:31:51,276 --> 00:31:52,543 And if you had, if you 751 00:31:54,078 --> 00:31:55,046 needed the AED 752 00:31:55,046 --> 00:31:58,116 device, you wouldn't know how to use or you didn't even have an AED device. 753 00:31:58,316 --> 00:32:02,153 So you lost what could be, you know, somebody's important to your company 754 00:32:02,153 --> 00:32:03,988 or your team mate, whatever the case may be, 755 00:32:03,988 --> 00:32:06,257 because you didn't bother doing the training. Right. 756 00:32:06,257 --> 00:32:07,492 And this this could make. 757 00:32:07,492 --> 00:32:10,895 How off once you do the initial training, do you come back every year 758 00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:14,098 and just make sure everybody's up to speed or how what you said necessary. 759 00:32:14,098 --> 00:32:16,734 So it's every two years the certification ends every two years. 760 00:32:16,734 --> 00:32:17,368 Okay. 761 00:32:17,368 --> 00:32:20,838 But if you do the online portion, you can always, go back 762 00:32:20,838 --> 00:32:22,340 and redo the online portion 763 00:32:22,340 --> 00:32:26,344 or the American Red cross has apps that you can download to refine those skills. 764 00:32:26,444 --> 00:32:27,512 But there you have it. 765 00:32:27,512 --> 00:32:30,048 And I strongly suggest if you own a company 766 00:32:30,048 --> 00:32:32,817 or you have a company or whatever, you know, 767 00:32:32,817 --> 00:32:35,553 you work at a nonprofit, whatever it is, you probably should think 768 00:32:35,553 --> 00:32:36,554 about doing this. 769 00:32:36,554 --> 00:32:38,623 You want to talk to somebody who really knows what they're doing. 770 00:32:38,623 --> 00:32:39,891 Katie's that person. 771 00:32:39,891 --> 00:32:47,899 You can reach her at 636-439-8761 772 00:32:48,099 --> 00:32:52,737 or the website ReadyTrainGo.com. 773 00:32:52,770 --> 00:32:55,239 They'll train you anywhere in the country. Happy to do it. 774 00:32:55,239 --> 00:32:56,975 She clearly knows what she's doing. 775 00:32:56,975 --> 00:32:58,810 Stay tuned. We'll be right back after the break. 776 00:32:58,810 --> 00:33:02,046 You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate Broadcasting 777 00:33:02,046 --> 00:33:06,417 here on the HIA Radio Network coast to Coast Cross, USA. 778 00:33:06,417 --> 00:33:07,251 Don't go anywhere. 779 00:33:12,724 --> 00:33:13,624 Welcome back. 780 00:33:13,624 --> 00:33:17,028 You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate show, broadcasting coast 781 00:33:17,028 --> 00:33:20,665 to coast across the USA here on the HIA Radio Network. 782 00:33:20,832 --> 00:33:25,203 You know, I do these kind of shows because we talk about educating and informing. 783 00:33:25,403 --> 00:33:28,539 And Katie came in here today from Saint Louis to do this show with me. 784 00:33:28,773 --> 00:33:31,109 And I'm amazed at what I'm learning today. 785 00:33:31,109 --> 00:33:32,143 And I hope you're amazed 786 00:33:32,143 --> 00:33:35,146 by listening to this or watching it on our YouTube channel. 787 00:33:35,146 --> 00:33:36,414 You want some help with this? 788 00:33:36,414 --> 00:33:37,915 You really should think about having this. 789 00:33:37,915 --> 00:33:39,751 If you don't have this in your company 790 00:33:39,751 --> 00:33:43,788 or you haven't trained in a long time, you need to get a hold of this lady, okay? 791 00:33:43,788 --> 00:33:46,557 She's clearly professional, clearly knows what she's doing, 792 00:33:46,557 --> 00:33:47,792 and it could make a big difference. 793 00:33:47,792 --> 00:33:52,397 If somebody goes into a heart attack situation and or heart failure 794 00:33:52,397 --> 00:33:53,531 and you know what to do. 795 00:33:53,531 --> 00:33:55,433 Or somebody in your company knows what to do. 796 00:33:55,433 --> 00:33:59,303 You can reach her at 636-439-8761. 797 00:33:59,504 --> 00:34:02,340 Their website ReadyTrainGo.com. 798 00:34:02,340 --> 00:34:03,074 All right. 799 00:34:03,074 --> 00:34:04,342 We're going to change gears now. 800 00:34:04,342 --> 00:34:06,978 So we talked about this on the break. 801 00:34:07,945 --> 00:34:09,313 One of the things that stuck out to me today 802 00:34:09,313 --> 00:34:12,817 was when I was going through the notes for this show, was the first aid kits. 803 00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:15,019 Now it's funny, my wife, 804 00:34:15,019 --> 00:34:18,623 who thinks of almost everything, bought first aid kits for us. 805 00:34:18,623 --> 00:34:21,259 Each of our cars and our children have them in their cars. 806 00:34:21,259 --> 00:34:23,828 So this is something she did, 807 00:34:23,828 --> 00:34:27,331 and it made me think like, okay, well, people in this part of the country, 808 00:34:27,331 --> 00:34:30,301 they like to hunt deer season, turkey season, 809 00:34:30,301 --> 00:34:33,171 whatever the case may be. 810 00:34:33,171 --> 00:34:35,239 They like to go out on their boats on the lake. 811 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,976 Unfortunately, that usually involves imbibing a lot of, adult beverages. 812 00:34:39,343 --> 00:34:41,913 And they also like to go hiking and camping. 813 00:34:41,913 --> 00:34:45,950 My my daughter and her family, they do a fair amount of camping. So 814 00:34:47,251 --> 00:34:49,654 do people even think about having a first aid kit? 815 00:34:49,654 --> 00:34:51,823 What should you have as a first aid kit? 816 00:34:51,823 --> 00:34:52,890 I mean my wife bought these things. 817 00:34:52,890 --> 00:34:55,226 They are in like a red box and I don't know what's in them. 818 00:34:55,226 --> 00:34:56,494 But let's just. 819 00:34:56,494 --> 00:34:58,496 Yeah, I haven’t opened one up to look at it. 820 00:34:58,496 --> 00:34:59,630 Oh, no. why? 821 00:34:59,630 --> 00:35:01,632 Why is that important? Why should people have it? 822 00:35:01,632 --> 00:35:04,035 It should be obvious. But please, if you would. 823 00:35:04,035 --> 00:35:04,402 Right. 824 00:35:04,402 --> 00:35:07,505 So, Cary, first of all, you should look in your first aid kit. 825 00:35:07,572 --> 00:35:08,873 I will see that now. 826 00:35:08,873 --> 00:35:11,442 I'm going to go back and open the thing up and look at it. 827 00:35:11,442 --> 00:35:14,312 How long ago did she buy it for you? Oh, about a month. Two months ago. 828 00:35:14,312 --> 00:35:16,414 Okay, good. I was gonna say They are brand new. 829 00:35:16,414 --> 00:35:18,149 If it’s two years, I’d say, oh, you missed the boat. 830 00:35:18,149 --> 00:35:20,284 So you should first of all, check it. 831 00:35:20,284 --> 00:35:23,287 Every time the weather kind of changes, or does extreme temperatures. 832 00:35:23,554 --> 00:35:27,692 Because if you have super hot days and super cold days, your Band-Aids 833 00:35:27,692 --> 00:35:30,328 that you have in your first aid kit are going to peel themselves open. 834 00:35:30,328 --> 00:35:31,562 I never thought of that. 835 00:35:31,562 --> 00:35:32,630 So making 836 00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:36,534 so making sure the integrity of your first aid kit is sound is the first thing. 837 00:35:36,534 --> 00:35:38,803 So about every time that you change your, 838 00:35:38,803 --> 00:35:41,072 batteries in your smoke alarms in your house, like, 839 00:35:41,072 --> 00:35:42,940 just take your first aid kit, make it a routine. 840 00:35:42,940 --> 00:35:44,275 Same with your fire extinguishers. 841 00:35:44,275 --> 00:35:46,244 Check them, give them a little shake back and forth. 842 00:35:46,244 --> 00:35:48,212 Make sure the powder is different. 843 00:35:48,212 --> 00:35:49,380 That's a whole other topic though. 844 00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:52,150 But actually I have two very large fire extinguishers, 845 00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:54,619 one right outside of the kitchen and one downstairs. 846 00:35:54,619 --> 00:35:56,954 So I'm very, very big on fire extinguishers. 847 00:35:56,954 --> 00:35:57,155 Yeah. 848 00:35:57,155 --> 00:36:00,291 So make sure those are checked too, inspected, in the green. 849 00:36:00,858 --> 00:36:02,460 But with first aid kits. 850 00:36:02,460 --> 00:36:06,230 My, my biggest advice is get a first aid kit for whatever you're doing. 851 00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:10,768 So, like you mentioned, someone's hunting or they're going, they're going fishing. 852 00:36:10,768 --> 00:36:13,171 Like you have all sorts of injuries that can happen that way. 853 00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:17,675 And so like have gauze have, you know, bleeding control kits of some sort, 854 00:36:17,675 --> 00:36:21,779 gauze, roller bandages, like, people bring tampons, like, that's fine. 855 00:36:21,779 --> 00:36:24,782 Like those things that absorb blood is what you want. 856 00:36:24,949 --> 00:36:27,285 Or even you could even could bring a tourniquet 857 00:36:27,285 --> 00:36:28,653 like a commercially made tourniquet. 858 00:36:28,653 --> 00:36:29,353 And that would help. 859 00:36:29,353 --> 00:36:32,256 It would be better for you to have more than you need than not enough. 860 00:36:33,558 --> 00:36:34,959 And so 861 00:36:34,959 --> 00:36:37,795 with your first aid kits, you can buy a commercially made one 862 00:36:37,795 --> 00:36:40,498 or just go to like the Dollar Tree or go to your favorite 863 00:36:40,498 --> 00:36:44,535 big box store and go get the supplies and put it in a pretty little bag or a box 864 00:36:44,535 --> 00:36:45,937 and just take it with you. 865 00:36:45,937 --> 00:36:46,904 How do you know what to buy 866 00:36:46,904 --> 00:36:49,440 if you're going to do it yourself, Katie, do you have that on your website? 867 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,775 So on my website, no, 868 00:36:50,775 --> 00:36:53,778 but I have resources I can connect you to, to be able to have that. 869 00:36:53,811 --> 00:36:54,378 Okay. 870 00:36:54,378 --> 00:36:57,448 So like minimum like bandages, you know, Band-Aids, bandages, 871 00:36:57,448 --> 00:37:01,385 cold compress, or like the instant ice pack things. 872 00:37:01,385 --> 00:37:04,055 Yeah. But again, think about what what is outside? 873 00:37:04,055 --> 00:37:06,724 Like, what weather are you facing? Is it cold or is it hot? 874 00:37:06,724 --> 00:37:08,593 If it's hot, maybe you need to have the cold packs. 875 00:37:08,593 --> 00:37:11,829 If it's cold, maybe you need to have some of those hot hands things with you. 876 00:37:11,862 --> 00:37:13,331 Yeah. Just in case. 877 00:37:14,432 --> 00:37:16,601 And so the 878 00:37:16,601 --> 00:37:20,371 American Red Cross’ website also has lists of all of the different 879 00:37:20,838 --> 00:37:24,141 equipment that you could have and you could potentially, need. 880 00:37:24,141 --> 00:37:24,775 But again, it's 881 00:37:24,775 --> 00:37:28,446 think about where are you going, what potential injuries could happen. 882 00:37:28,846 --> 00:37:29,380 You know, so if. 883 00:37:29,380 --> 00:37:31,082 You're hunting trip is a lot different 884 00:37:31,082 --> 00:37:33,084 than just going out with the family to camp out, 885 00:37:33,084 --> 00:37:36,921 you know, you know, in, in a national park or something, a hunting trip. 886 00:37:36,921 --> 00:37:38,556 You're talking about firearms. 887 00:37:38,556 --> 00:37:40,725 You know, if you're 888 00:37:40,725 --> 00:37:44,962 going to kill an animal, you're going to have to dress the animal all that. 889 00:37:45,162 --> 00:37:46,797 I mean, there's a lot going on in. 890 00:37:46,797 --> 00:37:48,499 There’s a knife and all of those things. 891 00:37:48,499 --> 00:37:50,701 Yeah, there's a there's a lot of things that could go wrong. 892 00:37:50,701 --> 00:37:54,572 I mean, you know, harken back to the days of Dick Cheney shooting a guy 893 00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:55,706 when they were bird hunting. 894 00:37:55,706 --> 00:37:58,542 So, I mean, people there are accidents when you hunt, right? 895 00:37:58,542 --> 00:38:01,712 So you would consider having extra rolled gauze, maybe a chest vent, 896 00:38:02,713 --> 00:38:03,281 a tourniquet. 897 00:38:03,281 --> 00:38:04,248 It absolutely. 898 00:38:04,248 --> 00:38:06,117 Gloves, those different things. 899 00:38:06,117 --> 00:38:07,318 Just so that again. 900 00:38:07,318 --> 00:38:11,222 But but if I'm a soccer mom taking my kids to soccer practice or something 901 00:38:11,222 --> 00:38:14,158 like I might not have all of that. You will need all that. 902 00:38:14,158 --> 00:38:14,959 Perhaps not. 903 00:38:14,959 --> 00:38:15,593 I mean, like, 904 00:38:15,593 --> 00:38:19,530 I carry like a three day survival pack in my car, but, like, that's not normal. 905 00:38:19,597 --> 00:38:22,967 I understand that, and that's completely fine, but it's what I do, you know? 906 00:38:22,967 --> 00:38:25,970 So if I'm going to the range or if I'm going hunting or doing something 907 00:38:25,970 --> 00:38:28,239 like I'm going to bring my my beefed up first 908 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,009 aid kit that has the ambu bag, which is another type of breathing device. 909 00:38:32,009 --> 00:38:34,312 Or if I, I'll take my, you know, the blood pressure cuff 910 00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:37,682 or I'll have the different types of bandages, the hemostatic dressing, 911 00:38:37,682 --> 00:38:41,252 the quick clot that stops the bleeding instantly like chemically cauterizes it. 912 00:38:41,919 --> 00:38:44,388 So like, I'll have those things with me, but the average person 913 00:38:44,388 --> 00:38:45,589 maybe doesn't need that. 914 00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:49,126 Do you suggest having those in a company? 915 00:38:49,393 --> 00:38:51,662 So let's say you run a machine or. 916 00:38:51,662 --> 00:38:55,066 Yeah, I think back to some of my days as a broker and some of the, 917 00:38:55,066 --> 00:38:58,269 the places that I went, like I had one particular facility 918 00:38:58,269 --> 00:39:02,139 was a meatpacking facility, in down in southern Missouri. 919 00:39:02,139 --> 00:39:04,642 Now, they had safety equipment everywhere. Absolutely. 920 00:39:04,642 --> 00:39:06,410 Because it was a very dangerous job. 921 00:39:06,410 --> 00:39:09,146 And there were some horrific injuries that happened at that facility. 922 00:39:09,146 --> 00:39:10,414 And I remember them well. 923 00:39:10,414 --> 00:39:13,284 But also like if you just have a simple machine shop 924 00:39:13,284 --> 00:39:16,454 and where there's an opportunity for somebody to get hurt on a machine, 925 00:39:16,620 --> 00:39:20,157 you should definitely have some type of first aid kit in that shop. 926 00:39:20,424 --> 00:39:20,691 Yeah. 927 00:39:20,691 --> 00:39:23,694 So most most companies have they're regulated by OSHA. 928 00:39:24,395 --> 00:39:27,932 And so that's an organization that basically occupational health 929 00:39:27,932 --> 00:39:30,968 and safety organization as though that's not exactly what. 930 00:39:31,736 --> 00:39:32,403 Right, right. 931 00:39:32,403 --> 00:39:33,938 But they have these rules and these guidelines. 932 00:39:33,938 --> 00:39:36,607 You have to have so many first aid kits for however many people you have. 933 00:39:36,607 --> 00:39:37,441 And what kind of, 934 00:39:38,609 --> 00:39:39,944 place that, that you are. 935 00:39:39,944 --> 00:39:43,681 So then they have different codes like ANSI is another acronym. 936 00:39:43,681 --> 00:39:47,084 That's a type of a first aid kit that says you have to have this packed in there. 937 00:39:47,084 --> 00:39:50,488 So they have these list of saying you have to have these things at a minimum 938 00:39:50,488 --> 00:39:53,023 when you're running a machine shop. But that's not every business. 939 00:39:53,023 --> 00:39:56,160 That's just business, like a machine shop or whatever the case may be. 940 00:39:56,427 --> 00:39:58,896 Other businesses like white collar businesses, etc. 941 00:39:58,896 --> 00:40:00,164 wouldn't necessarily think of that. 942 00:40:00,164 --> 00:40:01,499 But things happen, right? 943 00:40:01,499 --> 00:40:03,167 People get hurt, things happen. 944 00:40:03,167 --> 00:40:05,169 There are accidents, whatever the case may be. 945 00:40:05,169 --> 00:40:08,672 So having one of those kits is going to make a lot of sense It is. 946 00:40:08,672 --> 00:40:09,407 Okay. 947 00:40:09,407 --> 00:40:10,741 Well thank you for doing this today. 948 00:40:10,741 --> 00:40:12,510 I really appreciate your coming in here. 949 00:40:12,510 --> 00:40:15,846 This was one of the most educational shows I think we've ever done. 950 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,915 And I really appreciate you doing this. 951 00:40:17,915 --> 00:40:21,385 And again, you know, if you have a business, 952 00:40:21,752 --> 00:40:24,622 maybe your church, maybe it's a school you're involved in. 953 00:40:24,622 --> 00:40:28,926 You know, whatever the case may be, if they don't have classes on CPR, 954 00:40:28,959 --> 00:40:31,595 they haven't. You haven't you don't have anybody certified do this. 955 00:40:31,595 --> 00:40:34,231 You should reach out to Katie. The first aid kit, all of it. 956 00:40:34,231 --> 00:40:37,334 She she can talk to you about all of this and how they do it. 957 00:40:37,468 --> 00:40:40,104 Is clearly something that we should all be aware of. 958 00:40:40,104 --> 00:40:43,741 Clearly something that folks should learn how to do because it could save a life. 959 00:40:43,741 --> 00:40:47,378 You never know when that situation is going to occur. 960 00:40:47,378 --> 00:40:50,114 If you want help with this, please give Katie a call. 961 00:40:50,114 --> 00:40:56,554 636-439-8761. 962 00:40:56,821 --> 00:40:58,622 ReadyTrainGo.com. 963 00:40:58,622 --> 00:41:02,159 Is the website ReadyTrainGo.com anywhere in the country. 964 00:41:02,493 --> 00:41:03,861 She's happy to help you. 965 00:41:03,861 --> 00:41:06,330 Thank you for listening to America's Healthcare Advocate. 966 00:41:06,330 --> 00:41:09,333 And now I leave you with this thought from Doctor Martin Luther King. 967 00:41:09,567 --> 00:41:12,536 Americans must learn to live together as brothers and sisters, 968 00:41:12,536 --> 00:41:15,539 or we will surely perish together as fools. 969 00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:17,241 Truer words never spoken. 970 00:41:17,241 --> 00:41:18,609 Thank you for listening to America's 971 00:41:18,609 --> 00:41:22,646 Healthcare Advocate broadcasting here on the HIA Radio Network. 972 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,382 Coast to coast across USA. 973 00:41:25,382 --> 00:41:26,851 Goodbye, America.