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Joining me in studio today, Katie Radginski.
And we're going to be talking today about CPR and other things to do with,
critical care in terms of how do you deal with some of these emergencies.
Most specifically. We're going to talk about CPR.
Why is that important? What does it mean?
What do you need to know if you want to get certified why should you bother?
Why is it important okay.
And where do you see incidents like this where this becomes a very important issue.
So I'm going to tell a little story here before we get started.
Welcome, Katie.
Thank you.
Happy to have you here today.
Came in here from Saint Louis today to do the show.
We're very happy to have her.
So my daughter works at Morgan Stanley.
She is a financial analyst there.
They're in a meeting, with one of their clients one day.
And the gentleman's an older gentleman, like, I'm 76.
I don't know if he was that old or older,
but regardless of that he goes in to heart failure, has a heart attack.
She is trained in CPR and certified.
She goes into CPR, literally saves the guy's life
by the time the paramedics get there and they tell her that.
That story to me, Katie illustrates why you never know, right?
Okay, so talk a little bit about this. Why...
It's very interesting.
In the show notes, I was going to this morning at about 430 in the morning.
You had in here.
If you're untrained, just call 911.
And that really stuck out to me.
Like, don't do more harm than you were.
Good. So talk a bit about that, right?
I always tell people
like the little voice in your head, like, listen to it because it'll say, call 911
and you're like, well, should I, should I not?
Well now you just wasted thirty seconds of that person's possibility
of, of being saved because you chose not to do anything.
So doing something is that first step.
And then once you call 911, they'll walk you through it.
And you don't have to be afraid of actually knowing what to do,
even though getting certified is helpful because it gives you the confidence.
Like anything, if you don't use it, you're going to lose it.
Like I use the example usually, like I don't want an airplane pilot
not knowing what they're doing when we take off.
Probably not.
No. Like they have to have continuing education units,
just like you should go to a class and get certified in CPR and first aid
so that you understand the skills, because you going through one time
isn't going to make you knowledgeable of everything.
And you don't have to feel that,
intimidation when when you're taking the class, I'm like, oh no, now
I have to save everybody. No, do what you can.
You know, if that means you're calling 911 and then the paramedics
come and take over, then you've done what you can do.
But like with your daughter, she jumped in and she started CPR and saved the life.
And I had no idea she even knew how to do that.
And so my dad, Morgan Stanley, put as a program in place.
We get trained if we want to volunteer.
And she she started out in California doing it.
Now she's kind of like the person in their facility here in Leawood
who, you know, trains other people and knows how to and does this.
It's really kind of amazing. Right.
And you never know what companies do that.
Like a lot of companies in the area, even though like you said, it's Morgan
Stanley is not one that you think like, oh, they're not medical providers.
Like, well, why would they have CPR?
They're financial planners. Right.
But there are tons of organizations that will do that, like car
rental places, manufacturing companies like different places that you're going
like, oh, okay.
And they have safety teams because it's the just in case
if something were to happen, you never know when emergencies can happen
that they're they can step up and actually help their coworkers.
So what what is the difference between CPR.
And then when you see the mouth to mouth thing, I never really quite understood
the difference between the two.
One looks like it's relatively easy do whether or not
I want to put my mouth over somebody else's mouth.
I'm not so sure about that.
So talk a little bit about what's the difference
between those two and why one versus the other.
Well so here let's break it down for us.
So CPR is cardiopulmonary resuscitation.
So cardio is heart pulmonary is lungs.
Resuscitation is bring back to life.
So we need our heart to pump.
So it when our heart pumps it goes. Ba dmp, ba dmp, ba dmp.
It needs to have this rhythm.
And it has electrical impulses that there's still the body.
It's complicated in order.
When you do CPR and you're doing the the compressions part,
you're pumping the heart for the heart when it just stops.
When we do the breaths, it gives us the oxygen
that the blood needs to circulate to the brain and the other vital organs.
Because if you don't have oxygen to your
brain, you won't be able to function as a person.
And so you put the combination of the two together.
And that's what CPR is compressions and breaths.
Now people will debate back and forth.
Well, you don't need to do the breaths anymore
because like you said, I don't want to put my mouth on someone.
Well, they have devices that that's a breathing barrier
that has a one way valve that lets the air go in.
And it doesn't let
their vomit, their saliva, their goobers come up into your mouth.
If they were to happen to puke during this process, which is.
It does happen.
Unfortunately, that's a thing that will happen.
But the thing is that's, that's an okay thing.
But on the flip side, is like, people still need the oxygen,
but if you can't do anything, do compressions, because it gets the heart
reminding itself to go, hey, I have to actually pump.
We gotta work.
Because if I don't pump again,
my blood's not going to get to the brain in the other vital organs.
So it's it's a both.
If you don't know what to do, you could just start compressions
and then do it at a beat of 100 or 120 beats per minute.
So, like, think, Another One Bites the Dust if you're in a morbid
feeling or another or, Stayin Alive or like.
Okay, I, I could do Stayin Alive. Baby Shark.
that means that I do think,
not the dance.
Okay, but I can certainly do this.
All right.
But just to get that rhythm in your head, and you just go and.
120 beats.
So how many compressions is that per minute then?
So that's about,
make me do math this morning.
No. I'm sorry.
No, 101 hundred, 120 beats per minute.
Right.
So 30 compressions would be about 18 to 20s per 30 compressions.
Okay, there you go. The math part.
I put her on the spot.
I didn't intend to do that.
How do you know whether to do
just the compressions or to go to mouth to mouth?
I mean, how do you know which one?
I in fact, it's funny because I did not ask Andrea
if she did mouth to mouth or just did compression,
but how do you know which one to do?
How how in that moment, how do you know, which one to do?
So if you're if your heart is not pumping, you won't get the oxygen to the brain.
So you have to start with compressions. Okay.
So so you start with compressions at.
The basic, most basic level of training I would say just start with compressions
like higher levels of training.
There's other reasons why you would start with other things.
But just to keep it simple, start with compressions.
Your body has about 5 to 7 minutes worth of oxygen in it anyways.
So usually just compression only CPR is going to give that person
a better chance of survival than not doing anything at all.
Because when the blood stops flowing after three minutes, you get brain
damage to the brain and after ten minutes it's irreversible.
Now there's always exceptions.
There's always miracles that happen, you know?
But statistically speaking,
after three minutes of no oxygen to the brain,
that person is going to start having cells die.
So it's important that we start doing something.
So call 911, start the compressions and then just go hard and fast.
Keep going.
And but you said it
so you're on the phone with 911, you go “but I don't know how to do CPR”.
Can you walk me through this.
And they will literally tell you start the compressions now, do ‘X’ number.
And so so they'll tell you put your hand in the center of their chest.
I usually tell people, take your middle finger,
find the armpit line,
and then just place the center of your hand in the sternum,
place it over top or hold your other hand.
Put your arm straight and just push.
And that's it. That's it. It's pretty simple.
So you do you do this continuously or do you do you know,
the prescribed number in that in that one minute or whatever it is, period.
And then stop and then start again or you just keep going nonstop.
So it depends on your training, if you've had training
and if you understand the rhythm there's 30 compressions and then two breaths okay.
So 30 take two breast and start over again.
And when you're breathing it's.
Pretty rigorous I'm setting here thinking about that.
If I've got to do 30 those I got two breaths I go right back at it again.
Yeah.
And you're waiting 8 to 10, 15 minutes to get an ambulance there.
That's why it's important to have more than one person trained. Oh.
So every two minutes you switch.
And then here's the extra bonus information.
If you have an AED, use that because that's going to help someone who's in true
cardiac arrest.
The AED will reset the heart so that that person can have a best chance
of survival.
Statistically speaking, you will have 70 to 80% chance of survival
if you throw that AED in the mix versus just CPR.
Okay, when we come back from the break, I'm going to talk about that AED,
because one of the things that I as I was going through the notes for the show
this morning was thinking about was, wait a minute,
you mean I got to grab those paddles and go shock somebody?
I mean, you see it all the time on television.
You're like, I'm not so sure I want to do that.
So when we come back, I want you to talk about what is that like?
What's the risk there if you don't do it right, how do you do it right?
And there's obviously training for that.
And it's really funny because, you'll see a lot of businesses
now have those on the wall right in their business.
So they're there.
But you have to know what you're doing before you use it. All right.
When we come back to the break.
We're going to talk with Katie about the AED.
How do you use those paddles?
How do you know if it's right or wrong, whatever the case may be.
But if you want information, her company is called Ready Train Go.
They train people all over the country. This is what they do.
They do a lot more, which we'll talk about in some of the upcoming segments.
But you want to reach out to her 636-439-8761
or ReadyTrainGo.com ReadyTrainGo.com.
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What are we talking about? We're talking about CPR.
And in this segment we're going to talk about AEDs.
So those of you watching this, obviously you're going to be able to see this.
Those of you listening to us on the radio, the podcast can't see it.
Sitting in front of me is a lime green AED, automatic.
Explain this thing will you,
because it looks very sophisticated and complicated to me.
So it's like it's the shock machine.
That's what people, they call it, and they're scared of it.
But I don't want you to be scared of it because it's only going to.
Long as you don't use it on me. Katie.
I'm good. I can't, so that's the beauty of it, I can't.
So the AED is actually only going to read, two different types of, of rhythm.
So ventricular fibrillation, ventricular tachycardia.
So that's fancy for the heart spazzes out in two special rhythms.
One is where the heart
kind of goes into,
I guess spastic mode, where it just kind of
like that kind of a rhythm for those who are just listening.
And then the other one, it's just going from top
to bottom, electrical impulses going up and down.
It's not actually hitting where it needs to hit in the heart. Okay.
So when you have the electrical impulses, it goes, but
when it gets out of whack, it goes in those two weird rhythms
where the blood can't circulate to the brain on the other vital organs.
The AED comes along and it shocks the heart.
It stops it, and then the heart will, will spontaneously restart.
It's not actually giving you a jump start like jumper cables, okay?
Because that's what I always thought it did. Nope. It's stopping the heart.
Now, if we had a victim that we put the AED on and it said, okay,
we have a shockable rhythm, then it will say, will administer the shock.
Now if you touch the victim who had the pads on it
while I press the shock button, then yes, you die too.
But when you can't, you can't do that unless someone here is in cardiac arrest.
Now, if the person is in what's called asystole, we're going,
like on the movies.
You see them going, oh, quick, quickly. Flatline? Flatline.
Okay, that's not real.
Because this AED will not.
Read. That's not a shockable rhythm.
You can't stop something that's already stopped. Okay.
And so that's why it's super important that you understand,
you can't make things worse and excuse me, they're already dead,
so I can't make them more dead by stopping the heart to make the heart not stop.
And that won't bring them back.
Not if they're they're flatlined now.
Correct. Right.
So then now we're back to compressions and mouth to mouth.
Correct. So the heart now our CPR.
That's a remarkable clarification because I always thought
you watch television shows, guys.
They show the flatline. That's the first thing they show.
That's baloney. It is.
And so it's like a glorified stuff of like,
now with medical intervention, with other methodologies. Yes.
You can bring someone back from what they call asystole.
Not always, but it's just sometimes just not with this machine.
So this one, again, is foolproof.
The person goes down, you're you're cutting the steps.
Basically, you turn it on.
The hardest part of the whole thing is turn it on.
It will start talking.
It will like it will beep.
It will say in a very commanding voice like, stand clear and it'll say,
remove patients clothing.
So you remove the clothes with scissors.
So like this has scissors in it.
These will cut through a penny. They're that strong.
It will cut through the shirt you cut through.
If it's a woman you cut down their bra.
Because yes, it has a underwire in it.
You don't want to have electrical burns on that person. So.
Okay, cut straight down.
The person will get new clothes.
It'll be okay.
Like, I don't want to ruin this expensive shirt.
No, no. Like cut it off.
And then you're placing the pads, one on the top right
between the collarbone and the, the nipple line.
So top upper right
and then lower part of the sternum below the armpit about two inches.
Avoid the breast tissue So it's not like they show
on television.
You guys you watch they're putting a right here on the chest.
That's not how you do it.
No not for this type of machine. Right.
So it's top upper right lower left because it wants the electrical impulse
to go through that heart.
Now if you have a child and you'll see pictures
on the AED they actually have pictures on the actual pads.
Okay. Where it's here and here.
Now the Zoll brand, they have a, responsive feedback device.
Some people call it a brick. It's just an extra pad that goes in the middle.
This tells you where your hand goes, and then it also
sometimes will speed you up or slow you down on your compressions.
So you put the pads on.
It says stand clear analyzing.
If it says shock advised, then you'll press the shock button and it will light up.
You'll press the shock button, person will get shocked,
and then either they'll come back to life or they won't.
If they don't come back to life, then our job is to do the CPR.
Back to CPR. We’re going, okay heart, remember, you're supposed to beat.
You're supposed to go.
So this is a big green box.
What's inside of there?
The pads. No, the pads are right here. Just.
Okay. What do those pads look like?
Because that's not what I'm. That's not what I envision.
So the pads.
So think about when you go to the hospital and you get your heart
read like the the EEG, the EKGs Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're giant sticker pads.
Maybe like 2 or 3in. Right.
And they're super sticky.
So they'll go on top
and then people will ask, well, what happens if they have chest hair?
Well, if you cut down the clothes and you bare the chest
and it looks like Chewbacca, then you probably need to take the razor
that's in here because there's a razor inside.
And then you do a quick shave job. It's not going to be pretty.
Don't worry about razor burn.
Just kind of shave it, shave it real quick and then stick it on.
Wow. And you just go from there.
So, like here and here, press the shock button.
After you start the CPR, let's say that it doesn't work.
They don't come back, start CPR.
After two minutes, the AED will reanalyze it again
because it'll say, okay, did the heart catch on to this
rhythm it's supposed to be doing?
How does it do that?
Is that is that do you attach it?
It reads what's actually going in the body to those pads.
It does.
There's electrical wires inside the pads.
Got it.
So it's like stickiness pads.
Wires goes into here.
And then the magicalness happens I don't know the technical.
Electricity part of it.
But it happens.
Also this button here that if the person needs,
if it's, if it's a
person who is 55 pounds and.
Morbidly obese. No, no, 55 pounds.
Oh 55. Not kilograms, but okay, 55 pounds.
So like eight years or older then they would need to have pads.
Adult size pads if they're less than 55 pounds,
if they're eight years old or younger.
So two year old, three year old. Right.
Then you would use pediatric pads.
Now it will dial down the amount of energy that it gets.
That there are pediatric pads in there, not. In this one though.
Okay. How interesting.
So this one looks like there's a button that you press
that says whether it's a pediatric one or not.
So this one will dial down the joules electrical impulses
sent so that, it won't get as much energy.
Now, let's say you forget to press the button. It's okay.
You can still use the adults energy on the child,
because the body knows what to do with the extra electricity.
It will just go out like.
Yes, minor detail.
You might have, internal burns on the heart, but the body will heal
itself. That's, again, the great thing about,
about how our bodies are made.
So you place the pads.
So if it's a child, let's say two year old,
their body is probably going to be not,
you're going to be too small to have the pads in the traditional placement.
So you'd put one on the front and then one on the back.
And there are pictures.
That there's a picture that shows because they.
Saw in the front one, back. Right.
And that way it goes through the heart in that, that specific way.
So same with an infant.
You can use these on infants as well.
If a child goes into cardiac arrest and you don't know,
then you could place it on there.
This is going to be
what's going to save someone's life if they go into cardiac arrest.
And really, you can't mess it up.
Like I said,
the one thing is you turn it on and listen to the instructions and that.
And it tells you what to do. Absolutely.
So that's that.
That is absolutely so so it's not again,
we're going back to what we see on television.
It's not the two pads on the wall.
And you grab them and you and you put the two pads on them
because they're quote unquote flat lighting.
If they flatline, you're not even using us.
Right? Well, and we're not in a hospital setting either.
In a hospital setting.
They have the paddles.
So those paddles exist, but they look in different shapes and sizes,
and they actually have a dial on them that tells you,
what joules or what weight the person is.
So the doctors and the nurses on
the techs can actually figure out how much energy that person needs.
This is just general for anybody, to be able to use.
And so it's like.
So when you train people on CPR, do you automatically train them
on how to use the AED?
I do, yes. Okay. Super important.
Yeah.
Obviously I mean that's intimidating to look at that thing
and not now once you've explained it, that
makes it sound like it's not all that difficult to do.
And then your point, you push the button on the box
and the box tells you what to do.
Right.
So it's going to tell you open the case,
get the get the pads out, put the pads on, yada yada yada.
Do all of that.
Okay. How interesting.
So I challenge our listeners today that when
when they go to the store, the next time, go look for the AED.
Just look at it. It's not that scary.
I mean, it's got two buttons on and shock and then it has the pads.
So like look and you'll be surprised at how many you actually see in your area.
It's remarkable.
You know, you don't know what you don't know.
All right.
And this is great to have Katie here today.
I had no idea about any of this.
Right. So to me this is fascinating.
It’s gets great education. It's a great opportunity.
You've got a business
or whatever the case may be, and you don't have this in place.
This is probably something you should think about.
You might want to give her a call.
636-439-8761.
ReadyTrainGo.com is
the website.
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She can help you anywhere in the country.
Lady knows what she's talking about.
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We're learning a lot today.
There's a lot here I didn't know.
First question I want to ask before we introduce
the audience to Manuel, we'll get to him in a minute.
He's the silent guest, by the way, for those of you listening on radio,
is how hard when people are when you're doing these compressions, Katie,
how hard do you push and should be worried about,
oh, I might break a rib or I might talk to me about how that works.
So you want to press down at least two inches.
So people will debate, like how much body mass
you have to have to actually press down on somebody that hard.
And it all depends on the person.
You know. Are they, are they physically fit?
Are they not. Can they are they coordinated.
Are they not. But two inches.
Is that the maximum depth that you really want to push for an adult.
And so and to answer the question about like the,
will I break a rib, you might and that's okay because think about it.
You're doing the exact opposite thing that the body's made to do.
The ribs are made to protect the heart and the other vital organs.
And so if you're pushing on the ribs, of course something's going to give.
You're probably going to separate some cartilage.
You might crack a rib.
You might just,
make a giant, nasty bruise on the person, and yet the body will heal.
But they're alive.
They're alive.
Right.
Again, like I said earlier, you can't make it worse than it already is.
Like, if they're dead, you helping them
to have their heart pump the blood to the brain and the other vital organs.
It can't do anything that's worse. So I'm going to
guess that if you've got
somebody that's a 250 pound, 300 pound male, and you're trying to do this,
you're going to be pushing a lot harder than your 124 pound woman.
Absolutely. So, okay, the.
First couple of compressions are going to be the hardest.
And once again, once it kind of gives a little that means it'll separate.
Then you'll be able to, do more compressions.
Now, if you are working with someone who is 300, 300 plus pounds,
you’ve got to call 911, and you have to tell them,
hey, this is someone who's larger.
You might need a bariatric gurney.
You might need they have machines.
I forget the name of the machine, but it looks like a spider.
And it actually manually does the compressions around that person.
Holy cow. Right.
It's it's kind of scary looking because it's intense.
It's like they hook the person up.
It looks like spider
fingers that go around the the chest, and it just: domp, domp, domp.
And it just keeps going.
So like that helps the paramedics whenever they come.
Especially if it's someone of larger stature
because they're not going to be able to sustain that.
Like I said, every two minutes you should be switching out.
Otherwise you're going to be basically doing sloppy CPR
and not helping that person have a chance of survival.
I tend to think about like, if you're going to,
have you ever exercised before,
and you go on an elliptical, so like the elliptical.
Has those things that go back and forth like the last 30s of your, your stint
that you've done and you're like, I'll just do it for 30 more seconds.
Well, you've already pushed past your limit.
Now you're just blop in your head back and forth and have on your arms,
and you're letting the machine do the work for you.
That's sloppy CPR at its finest. That's an example of that.
You're not actually doing anything for your body by staying on an elliptical.
The extra 30s just flopping and hanging on.
So it's like change out before you get to that point of exhaustion.
Interesting.
All right.
Let's introduce Manuel, he's sitting over here for those of you that are,
listening on radio, you can't see Manuel, but he has a mustache.
And what is man world's function? Katie.
So today he's my advertising director.
He's coming here just to market with me.
But in all seriousness, though, he's an example of one of the mannequins
that we use.
He is, a CPR mannequin.
So he has, a chest.
He has a torso.
This mannequin today has a mustache on just for grins.
But when we teach classes,
we don't put mustaches on because you have to sanitize the faces.
And that would be gross to have to. Okay. All right. But,
with him,
this is how we teach people how to do the compressions and the CPR.
So he's got an anatomical
sort of anatomically correct chest where he has a chest, a nipple line.
Although everybody won’t look like this when you bare the the chest,
the skin moves weird and everything will be everywhere else.
But most, people have armpits.
When you find the armpit line, you take your middle finger
and you find the center.
So think about to the nose like your nose down,
and then your armpit line kind of trace an “L”.
Like a cross.
And your hand
just goes right in the center and then you'll go straight down.
Now Manuel has a feature where he clicks.
When you hit two inches, he'll click and he'll tell you, hey, that's deep enough.
And that way, you know, when we practice, we auditorial hear it.
Some versions of mannequins will have lights that light up.
I have a different version.
I call her Annie, so she's a cue CPR mannequin
where she has a cord that comes out of her and tells you how fast you're going,
what your depth is, and then if your breaths actually went in.
So when we do the breaths on the mannequin, we pinch the nose.
Depends on the breathing barrier I'm getting way into more stuff.
Yeah.
You know, when you have a certain type of breathing barrier,
you have to pinch the nose.
Otherwise the air will come out the nose when you breathe into their mouth.
But with him, you can pinch the nose and tilt the head back.
His mouth opens up and the chest will actually expand.
So you'll see the chest expanding on the mannequin.
And that's that's Manuel's function,
you know, for that, with the other mannequins that I have,
it'll tell you did the breaths were they efficient enough.
Did it, did you exhale enough to make the
the chest rise so that you get oxygen in the system or not?
And then that way
it gives the students real time feedback so that they when they're practicing,
they know if they're doing CPR good or not.
That's remarkable.
So to me, when I'm looking at this and listening to you,
it's one thing to hear how to do this.
It's something else to actually be able to do it on this mannequin.
And I'm assuming the mannequins
you're going to know the mannequin’s going to tell you
you're not doing this right, or you're doing it right, right.
So you're going to
so you're while you're doing it, you're learning how to do it properly.
Do the compressions.
Take the two breaths. Come back.
If you're going to do the the the mouth to mouth and it's hold the nose,
do the breathing, then go back and do the compressions.
It this is a great way to train people.
The other thing it seems fascinating to me is this gives you confidence.
Hey, you know, I could really do this right now
that I've trained on this thing, I feel like I could really do this.
And that's the thing of the joy of being an instructor that because what.
It is scary to think about doing this to somebody.
Right. You know, am I going to do it right.
I'm going to cause more harm than good.
But if you have this training and my daughter had this training and then
you've got that level of confidence, you can go do this.
And that's our hope. After you attend the class.
That's even one of the goals of it
that you're confident to just respond and to try something, because again.
Something's better than nothing.
Yeah.
So how long is a class like when you train somebody on this?
You let's say you're in a company and they said, we've got five people here
that we're going to train on this, we've got ten people.
We're going to go train everybody,
but we're going to train like ten people, one in each department.
Whatever the case may be, how long does it take to go through that?
You're going to teach them how to do this mouth to mouth.
You’ll teach them compressions. How long does all that take?
So it depends on the course they actually want to take.
So like that's it's more complicated than that.
So it can range from 3 to 5 hours.
It all just depends. On three hours.
So as little as three hours if they just want to learn the quick basics of things.
So we teach through American Red cross certification so people walk away.
That's important to me that like, I didn't make any of this up.
Like, I'm following curriculum.
I'm following what the scientific
advisory board says, saying, hey, this is the standard.
This is a quality of care that we give.
That way, again, not going rogue and just saying, yeah, we'll try this.
Because I have no business doing that.
Right.
So, so 3 to 5 hours and that includes adult
and child and infant CPR, first aid and AED.
Wow. Okay.
So but the basics,
if somebody wants to bring you in to train folks in their company,
you're looking at a three hour program basically for the basic program.
I would say closer to four just to say not.
To cover, but so it's going to be it's
going to take them four hours out of their workday to do this.
If they just show up and do it now, we offer it in different formats.
So we have it in a blended learning where you do half of it online so
they can do the head knowledge online and then they come in person.
Now those would be, you know, two hours with me.
So two hours they do the hands on portion because that's the other component.
Like you need to know like you need to physically do it.
I can't just click a button on a screen and say, yeah, I'm trained
because I don't want my neurosurgeon doing that, or not my cardiologist going
like, yes, we'll do open heart surgery with a button of a mouse like that.
That doesn't make sense.
And so, we have to have that hands on, components to retain the information.
And, and so it can be a two part process where they could get two hours
of training alotted.
And then you come in and bring in Manuel and do the actual training
with the mannequin there in the facility. Wow.
How interesting.
You know, it seems to me that it makes a lot of sense
for companies to think about this, because what you don't want to do
is not think about it and not have anybody this ready to do it.
And here we are in the studio,
and you would right down the hall and, and and got the device right off the wall.
Brought it in here. We just showed it to everybody.
So the I guess the point I'm making is that you don't know
when this is going to be necessary.
And it's far better to have people trained in how to use it than to have
somebody die on the floor in their office because nobody knew how to do CPR.
And if you had, if you
needed the AED
device, you wouldn't know how to use or you didn't even have an AED device.
So you lost what could be, you know, somebody's important to your company
or your team mate, whatever the case may be,
because you didn't bother doing the training. Right.
And this this could make.
How off once you do the initial training, do you come back every year
and just make sure everybody's up to speed or how what you said necessary.
So it's every two years the certification ends every two years.
Okay.
But if you do the online portion, you can always, go back
and redo the online portion
or the American Red cross has apps that you can download to refine those skills.
But there you have it.
And I strongly suggest if you own a company
or you have a company or whatever, you know,
you work at a nonprofit, whatever it is, you probably should think
about doing this.
You want to talk to somebody who really knows what they're doing.
Katie's that person.
You can reach her at 636-439-8761
or the website ReadyTrainGo.com.
They'll train you anywhere in the country. Happy to do it.
She clearly knows what she's doing.
Stay tuned. We'll be right back after the break.
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You know, I do these kind of shows because we talk about educating and informing.
And Katie came in here today from Saint Louis to do this show with me.
And I'm amazed at what I'm learning today.
And I hope you're amazed
by listening to this or watching it on our YouTube channel.
You want some help with this?
You really should think about having this.
If you don't have this in your company
or you haven't trained in a long time, you need to get a hold of this lady, okay?
She's clearly professional, clearly knows what she's doing,
and it could make a big difference.
If somebody goes into a heart attack situation and or heart failure
and you know what to do.
Or somebody in your company knows what to do.
You can reach her at 636-439-8761.
Their website ReadyTrainGo.com.
All right.
We're going to change gears now.
So we talked about this on the break.
One of the things that stuck out to me today
was when I was going through the notes for this show, was the first aid kits.
Now it's funny, my wife,
who thinks of almost everything, bought first aid kits for us.
Each of our cars and our children have them in their cars.
So this is something she did,
and it made me think like, okay, well, people in this part of the country,
they like to hunt deer season, turkey season,
whatever the case may be.
They like to go out on their boats on the lake.
Unfortunately, that usually involves imbibing a lot of, adult beverages.
And they also like to go hiking and camping.
My my daughter and her family, they do a fair amount of camping. So
do people even think about having a first aid kit?
What should you have as a first aid kit?
I mean my wife bought these things.
They are in like a red box and I don't know what's in them.
But let's just.
Yeah, I haven’t opened one up to look at it.
Oh, no. why?
Why is that important? Why should people have it?
It should be obvious. But please, if you would.
Right.
So, Cary, first of all, you should look in your first aid kit.
I will see that now.
I'm going to go back and open the thing up and look at it.
How long ago did she buy it for you? Oh, about a month. Two months ago.
Okay, good. I was gonna say They are brand new.
If it’s two years, I’d say, oh, you missed the boat.
So you should first of all, check it.
Every time the weather kind of changes, or does extreme temperatures.
Because if you have super hot days and super cold days, your Band-Aids
that you have in your first aid kit are going to peel themselves open.
I never thought of that.
So making
so making sure the integrity of your first aid kit is sound is the first thing.
So about every time that you change your,
batteries in your smoke alarms in your house, like,
just take your first aid kit, make it a routine.
Same with your fire extinguishers.
Check them, give them a little shake back and forth.
Make sure the powder is different.
That's a whole other topic though.
But actually I have two very large fire extinguishers,
one right outside of the kitchen and one downstairs.
So I'm very, very big on fire extinguishers.
Yeah.
So make sure those are checked too, inspected, in the green.
But with first aid kits.
My, my biggest advice is get a first aid kit for whatever you're doing.
So, like you mentioned, someone's hunting or they're going, they're going fishing.
Like you have all sorts of injuries that can happen that way.
And so like have gauze have, you know, bleeding control kits of some sort,
gauze, roller bandages, like, people bring tampons, like, that's fine.
Like those things that absorb blood is what you want.
Or even you could even could bring a tourniquet
like a commercially made tourniquet.
And that would help.
It would be better for you to have more than you need than not enough.
And so
with your first aid kits, you can buy a commercially made one
or just go to like the Dollar Tree or go to your favorite
big box store and go get the supplies and put it in a pretty little bag or a box
and just take it with you.
How do you know what to buy
if you're going to do it yourself, Katie, do you have that on your website?
So on my website, no,
but I have resources I can connect you to, to be able to have that.
Okay.
So like minimum like bandages, you know, Band-Aids, bandages,
cold compress, or like the instant ice pack things.
Yeah. But again, think about what what is outside?
Like, what weather are you facing? Is it cold or is it hot?
If it's hot, maybe you need to have the cold packs.
If it's cold, maybe you need to have some of those hot hands things with you.
Yeah. Just in case.
And so the
American Red Cross’ website also has lists of all of the different
equipment that you could have and you could potentially, need.
But again, it's
think about where are you going, what potential injuries could happen.
You know, so if.
You're hunting trip is a lot different
than just going out with the family to camp out,
you know, you know, in, in a national park or something, a hunting trip.
You're talking about firearms.
You know, if you're
going to kill an animal, you're going to have to dress the animal all that.
I mean, there's a lot going on in.
There’s a knife and all of those things.
Yeah, there's a there's a lot of things that could go wrong.
I mean, you know, harken back to the days of Dick Cheney shooting a guy
when they were bird hunting.
So, I mean, people there are accidents when you hunt, right?
So you would consider having extra rolled gauze, maybe a chest vent,
a tourniquet.
It absolutely.
Gloves, those different things.
Just so that again.
But but if I'm a soccer mom taking my kids to soccer practice or something
like I might not have all of that. You will need all that.
Perhaps not.
I mean, like,
I carry like a three day survival pack in my car, but, like, that's not normal.
I understand that, and that's completely fine, but it's what I do, you know?
So if I'm going to the range or if I'm going hunting or doing something
like I'm going to bring my my beefed up first
aid kit that has the ambu bag, which is another type of breathing device.
Or if I, I'll take my, you know, the blood pressure cuff
or I'll have the different types of bandages, the hemostatic dressing,
the quick clot that stops the bleeding instantly like chemically cauterizes it.
So like, I'll have those things with me, but the average person
maybe doesn't need that.
Do you suggest having those in a company?
So let's say you run a machine or.
Yeah, I think back to some of my days as a broker and some of the,
the places that I went, like I had one particular facility
was a meatpacking facility, in down in southern Missouri.
Now, they had safety equipment everywhere. Absolutely.
Because it was a very dangerous job.
And there were some horrific injuries that happened at that facility.
And I remember them well.
But also like if you just have a simple machine shop
and where there's an opportunity for somebody to get hurt on a machine,
you should definitely have some type of first aid kit in that shop.
Yeah.
So most most companies have they're regulated by OSHA.
And so that's an organization that basically occupational health
and safety organization as though that's not exactly what.
Right, right.
But they have these rules and these guidelines.
You have to have so many first aid kits for however many people you have.
And what kind of,
place that, that you are.
So then they have different codes like ANSI is another acronym.
That's a type of a first aid kit that says you have to have this packed in there.
So they have these list of saying you have to have these things at a minimum
when you're running a machine shop. But that's not every business.
That's just business, like a machine shop or whatever the case may be.
Other businesses like white collar businesses, etc.
wouldn't necessarily think of that.
But things happen, right?
People get hurt, things happen.
There are accidents, whatever the case may be.
So having one of those kits is going to make a lot of sense It is.
Okay.
Well thank you for doing this today.
I really appreciate your coming in here.
This was one of the most educational shows I think we've ever done.
And I really appreciate you doing this.
And again, you know, if you have a business,
maybe your church, maybe it's a school you're involved in.
You know, whatever the case may be, if they don't have classes on CPR,
they haven't. You haven't you don't have anybody certified do this.
You should reach out to Katie. The first aid kit, all of it.
She she can talk to you about all of this and how they do it.
Is clearly something that we should all be aware of.
Clearly something that folks should learn how to do because it could save a life.
You never know when that situation is going to occur.
If you want help with this, please give Katie a call.
636-439-8761.
ReadyTrainGo.com.
Is the website ReadyTrainGo.com anywhere in the country.
She's happy to help you.
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