1 00:00:01,501 --> 00:00:05,538 And now America's Healthcare Advocate, Cary Hall. 2 00:00:06,172 --> 00:00:06,873 Hello, America. 3 00:00:06,873 --> 00:00:08,842 Welcome to America's Healthcare Advocate show 4 00:00:08,842 --> 00:00:11,611 broadcasting coast to coast across the USA. 5 00:00:11,611 --> 00:00:13,813 Here on the ABC Radio Network. 6 00:00:13,813 --> 00:00:14,514 You can find out 7 00:00:14,514 --> 00:00:18,551 more about us by going to the website AmericasHealthcareAdvocate.com. 8 00:00:18,551 --> 00:00:21,054 AmericasHealthcareAdvocate.com. 9 00:00:21,054 --> 00:00:22,622 If you have a question, 10 00:00:22,622 --> 00:00:26,393 if you have a comment or an email, feel free to send me an email. 11 00:00:26,393 --> 00:00:29,095 I get a lot of them, but I answer each and every one of them, 12 00:00:29,095 --> 00:00:30,964 so I'm happy to do so. 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Okay. 33 00:01:25,652 --> 00:01:28,121 And this is the first time I've ever had a show like this. 34 00:01:28,121 --> 00:01:32,992 So in studio with me today Philip Sarnecki, very happy to have you here. 35 00:01:33,159 --> 00:01:36,596 He is a gubernatorial candidate for the state of Kansas. 36 00:01:36,596 --> 00:01:38,631 Like I said, we've never done this before. 37 00:01:38,631 --> 00:01:41,201 I've known this man for quite a while. 38 00:01:41,201 --> 00:01:42,769 I'm happy to have him on here. 39 00:01:43,903 --> 00:01:46,906 He is the kind of man that we need in politics. 40 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,909 I'm going to have to question why he's doing this in a minute. 41 00:01:49,909 --> 00:01:51,344 But having said that, 42 00:01:51,344 --> 00:01:52,212 I think you're going to learn 43 00:01:52,212 --> 00:01:57,150 about a guy today who really understands what this state needs and can make changes 44 00:01:57,150 --> 00:01:59,252 that are going to affect everybody in the state of Kansas. 45 00:01:59,252 --> 00:02:01,020 So welcome to the show, Philip. 46 00:02:01,020 --> 00:02:02,255 Thank you Cary. Great to be here. 47 00:02:02,255 --> 00:02:06,593 So first thing I have to ask is why you're if you're a reasonably sane man. 48 00:02:06,593 --> 00:02:07,260 Reasonably. 49 00:02:07,260 --> 00:02:10,263 Yeah. You’ve had very successful businesses. 50 00:02:10,263 --> 00:02:11,998 You've built from scratch. 51 00:02:11,998 --> 00:02:15,034 And now you're entering into this political arena at a time 52 00:02:15,034 --> 00:02:18,037 when it's a little hot. Yes, yes. 53 00:02:18,204 --> 00:02:20,607 Well, I will tell you that that is a great question. 54 00:02:20,607 --> 00:02:23,610 And I've spent, really a couple of years, 55 00:02:23,643 --> 00:02:26,646 pondering that, talking to people, praying about it. 56 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,983 And where we've landed is, quite frankly, 57 00:02:29,983 --> 00:02:33,153 I'm tired of losing, as a Republican, 58 00:02:33,153 --> 00:02:36,890 I know not all of your audience out there are going to be, Republicans. 59 00:02:36,890 --> 00:02:40,860 But, you know, we have lost we being the Republicans, 60 00:02:40,860 --> 00:02:44,197 the gubernatorial seat, the last two elections in Kansas. 61 00:02:44,664 --> 00:02:48,034 And that's a state where Donald Trump won 58% of the vote. 62 00:02:48,635 --> 00:02:52,705 We have not elected a Democratic senator in almost a hundred years. 63 00:02:52,939 --> 00:02:55,275 And we have supermajorities in both houses. 64 00:02:55,275 --> 00:02:59,245 But somehow we keep losing the gubernatorial seat 65 00:02:59,245 --> 00:03:01,247 and it's really the CEO job. 66 00:03:01,247 --> 00:03:04,384 It's it's, you know, it's a different political job. 67 00:03:04,884 --> 00:03:08,655 I've talked to a number of governors about this, Glenn Youngkin in Virginia 68 00:03:08,655 --> 00:03:10,190 being one of them. 69 00:03:10,190 --> 00:03:13,626 And, you know, he mentioned to me, he said Philip, 70 00:03:13,626 --> 00:03:17,130 people have a tendency to throw all these political jobs in the same bucket. 71 00:03:17,130 --> 00:03:19,232 Senate, Congress, Governor. 72 00:03:19,232 --> 00:03:22,235 He said., but the reality is the governor's job 73 00:03:22,502 --> 00:03:26,139 is a totally different job that needs a totally different skill set, he said. 74 00:03:26,139 --> 00:03:28,441 It is a CEO job. 75 00:03:28,441 --> 00:03:30,510 It is the job of a business leader. 76 00:03:30,510 --> 00:03:33,479 And he said all those skills that you've developed 77 00:03:33,479 --> 00:03:37,650 and built and acquired over the last 30 years, like that fits 78 00:03:37,650 --> 00:03:41,821 perfectly in the gubernatorial seat and I think what's happened 79 00:03:41,821 --> 00:03:44,824 is these people that have run for the last 80 00:03:44,824 --> 00:03:48,361 two gubernatorial elections, they're wonderful people. 81 00:03:49,329 --> 00:03:50,330 They're very nice people. 82 00:03:50,330 --> 00:03:51,965 I've written some of them checks. 83 00:03:51,965 --> 00:03:55,501 I'm sure you have, But they don't have 84 00:03:55,501 --> 00:03:59,372 the skill set to really lead from that place. 85 00:03:59,372 --> 00:04:00,540 And that's what I believe 86 00:04:00,540 --> 00:04:03,776 that we've been called to do and what we're bringing into this role. 87 00:04:03,776 --> 00:04:06,012 You know, when you first told me as we were having lunch 88 00:04:06,012 --> 00:04:09,015 and I remember having a conversation, I was a little surprised, 89 00:04:09,649 --> 00:04:11,784 that I was like, you're really going to do this? 90 00:04:11,784 --> 00:04:13,353 You were like, yes, I really am. 91 00:04:13,353 --> 00:04:18,725 And we had that conversation about why this is a different way to do this. 92 00:04:18,725 --> 00:04:23,129 And I think the fact that you're calling yourself the CEO, 93 00:04:23,129 --> 00:04:26,532 which is essentially what you are, and you're looking at it from that model 94 00:04:27,066 --> 00:04:30,069 that speaks lives about where you think this should go. 95 00:04:30,236 --> 00:04:31,204 Yeah, absolutely. 96 00:04:31,204 --> 00:04:35,141 I think when again, when you look at it, you know, Senators and Congress people 97 00:04:35,141 --> 00:04:38,344 which are very important obviously, but they basically debate and they vote. 98 00:04:39,245 --> 00:04:40,813 It's called the legislative branch. 99 00:04:40,813 --> 00:04:43,716 Well, this is called the executive branch for a reason. 100 00:04:43,716 --> 00:04:46,219 And you're running multibillion dollar budgets. 101 00:04:46,219 --> 00:04:49,022 You're appointing leadership positions. 102 00:04:49,022 --> 00:04:52,592 You're building leadership teams, you're holding people accountable, 103 00:04:52,592 --> 00:04:54,694 or at least theoretically, that would be a. 104 00:04:54,694 --> 00:04:56,596 concept in government, right. You’re hoping you can do. 105 00:04:56,596 --> 00:04:58,831 That's right. You can hold people accountable. 106 00:04:58,831 --> 00:05:01,801 And, you know, those are the skills that I've applied to my businesses 107 00:05:01,801 --> 00:05:03,136 for the last 30 years. 108 00:05:03,136 --> 00:05:06,939 And I think if we bring those in to the government sector, 109 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:12,278 very similar to what Donald Trump is doing on a national scale, 110 00:05:12,512 --> 00:05:15,048 that we can do a lot of that right here in Kansas. 111 00:05:15,048 --> 00:05:16,949 And by the way, there are a lot of governors 112 00:05:16,949 --> 00:05:20,253 around the country right now, who hadn’t ever run for office. 113 00:05:20,820 --> 00:05:21,821 Well, Glenn Youngkin, 114 00:05:21,821 --> 00:05:25,758 Youngkin, Kevin Stitt, Bill Lee in Tennessee, there was Doug Burgum. 115 00:05:25,758 --> 00:05:27,593 You've got Cohen in Nebraska. 116 00:05:27,593 --> 00:05:30,063 So there's a lot even the Democrats have a few. So yeah. 117 00:05:30,063 --> 00:05:33,266 That's interesting, you’ve mentioned that Democrats have few because they do. 118 00:05:33,633 --> 00:05:36,636 And those typically that are not politicians 119 00:05:36,903 --> 00:05:39,872 that are Democrat governors seem to have a different tact 120 00:05:39,872 --> 00:05:42,675 than the ones that are purely politicians, which is exactly 121 00:05:42,675 --> 00:05:45,812 what you're pointing out here on the Republican side of the equation. 122 00:05:45,845 --> 00:05:46,112 Right? 123 00:05:46,112 --> 00:05:48,481 You're looking at people coming into politics 124 00:05:48,481 --> 00:05:52,085 that have a very different perspective about what should happen 125 00:05:52,085 --> 00:05:53,853 and how it should happen. 126 00:05:53,853 --> 00:05:55,455 Yeah, I think that's exactly right. 127 00:05:55,455 --> 00:05:58,291 I think we're not bound by, 128 00:05:59,425 --> 00:06:02,462 you know, the, the, the ways of the past. 129 00:06:02,462 --> 00:06:03,963 If you will. 130 00:06:03,963 --> 00:06:09,335 Not bound by kind of the political, what what's the expected thing to do 131 00:06:09,335 --> 00:06:13,706 in politics, really bringing in outside perspective 132 00:06:13,706 --> 00:06:17,710 and an outsider's lens to what we're doing. 133 00:06:18,044 --> 00:06:21,581 And I think that's what we can do to be bold and really shake 134 00:06:21,581 --> 00:06:23,116 some things up in a positive way. 135 00:06:23,116 --> 00:06:24,350 Yeah, I agree with that. 136 00:06:24,350 --> 00:06:24,650 I think 137 00:06:24,650 --> 00:06:27,653 the other thing I would have to point is you're not carrying a lot of baggage. 138 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:28,955 That's right. Exactly. 139 00:06:28,955 --> 00:06:30,923 You don't. I've never voted. 140 00:06:30,923 --> 00:06:34,927 You have you vote in every election but you as well, right? 141 00:06:34,927 --> 00:06:35,294 Yeah. 142 00:06:35,294 --> 00:06:39,532 But you haven't been in politics and you're not pulling a sled behind you. 143 00:06:39,532 --> 00:06:41,300 Correct. With a lot of political decisions. 144 00:06:41,300 --> 00:06:43,169 So this is a totally different model. 145 00:06:43,169 --> 00:06:44,971 That's the way you're approaching this. Yes. 146 00:06:44,971 --> 00:06:46,406 I have voted consistently. 147 00:06:46,406 --> 00:06:51,377 I have no voting record, in Congress or the Senate, or what have you. 148 00:06:51,377 --> 00:06:53,913 That's that's correct. Yes. And that's that's to your benefit. 149 00:06:53,913 --> 00:06:55,615 And we're also not here's the other thing. 150 00:06:55,615 --> 00:06:59,018 When you're an outsider like President Trump, we're not beholden 151 00:06:59,352 --> 00:07:03,055 to the interests of, you know, a lot of the people 152 00:07:03,055 --> 00:07:06,926 that I'm running against, again, many of which I know and some I know well, 153 00:07:07,927 --> 00:07:08,828 some of them have done 154 00:07:08,828 --> 00:07:11,831 nothing but politics for 25 and 30 years. 155 00:07:11,931 --> 00:07:14,367 That’s part of the problem. 156 00:07:14,367 --> 00:07:18,971 Some of them have been running for 20 years and haven't won anything, 157 00:07:19,338 --> 00:07:23,075 and I just got tired of writing checks to people who weren't winning 158 00:07:23,409 --> 00:07:27,480 and were were really caught up in the establishment, 159 00:07:28,114 --> 00:07:29,549 the political establishment. 160 00:07:29,549 --> 00:07:31,951 And I just felt we needed somebody from the outside. 161 00:07:31,951 --> 00:07:35,354 And originally I was looking at backing somebody like that. 162 00:07:35,354 --> 00:07:38,458 And the more and more I talked to people, they said, you're the person. 163 00:07:38,491 --> 00:07:40,393 You need to be, the guy you. You need to be the guy to do it. 164 00:07:40,393 --> 00:07:41,828 You're the man in the arena now. 165 00:07:41,828 --> 00:07:43,629 Well, when we come back for the break, I'm going 166 00:07:43,629 --> 00:07:46,632 give you a little bio on Philip and how he got where he is. 167 00:07:46,632 --> 00:07:48,167 You're going to find this interesting. 168 00:07:48,167 --> 00:07:51,170 In the third segment, I'm going to ask and do something very unusual. 169 00:07:51,304 --> 00:07:54,340 I'm going to ask him to tell a story that I saw him do 170 00:07:54,340 --> 00:07:57,844 in front of a group of young people about who he is and where he came from. 171 00:07:57,844 --> 00:07:59,479 His name is Philip Sarnecki. 172 00:07:59,479 --> 00:08:00,880 He is running for governor. 173 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,683 The website is philipsarnecki.org. 174 00:08:03,683 --> 00:08:05,251 philipsarnecki.org. 175 00:08:05,251 --> 00:08:06,953 We'll be right back after the break. 176 00:08:06,953 --> 00:08:09,388 You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate 177 00:08:09,388 --> 00:08:12,391 broadcasting here on The HIA Radio Network. 178 00:08:12,692 --> 00:08:14,827 Coast to coast across the USA. 179 00:08:14,827 --> 00:08:16,662 Stay right there. We'll be back with more. 180 00:08:27,807 --> 00:08:28,441 Welcome back. 181 00:08:28,441 --> 00:08:32,278 You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate Show, broadcasting coast to coast 182 00:08:32,278 --> 00:08:35,448 across the USA here on The HIA Radio Network. 183 00:08:35,548 --> 00:08:39,185 Want to give a shout out to KNSS AM and FM 184 00:08:39,418 --> 00:08:44,023 98.7 FM and 1330 AM, Wichita, Kansas. 185 00:08:44,223 --> 00:08:46,859 One of our great broadcast partners in Wichita. 186 00:08:46,859 --> 00:08:48,194 Happy to be on the air up there 187 00:08:48,194 --> 00:08:51,998 and have them as part of the America's Healthcare Advocate family. 188 00:08:52,131 --> 00:08:54,400 Let me tell you a little bit about Philip Sarnecki. 189 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,801 You know, this is a guy. 190 00:08:55,801 --> 00:08:57,436 He's not a trust baby. 191 00:08:57,436 --> 00:08:59,705 Nobody put a silver spoon in his mouth. 192 00:08:59,705 --> 00:09:01,274 He bootstrapped his way up. 193 00:09:01,274 --> 00:09:05,177 Started out well, we'll get him to tell a story here in the third segment. 194 00:09:05,211 --> 00:09:06,612 Let me tell you a little bit about this guy, 195 00:09:06,612 --> 00:09:09,615 because he's truly what I would call a self-made man. 196 00:09:09,849 --> 00:09:13,686 Philip Sarnecki is a Kansas businessman, family, man, job creator 197 00:09:13,853 --> 00:09:18,824 who has built companies that today employ 1000 people across multiple industries. 198 00:09:18,858 --> 00:09:22,261 He founded and led RPS Financial Group Services. 199 00:09:22,495 --> 00:09:26,465 He also his leadership firm expanded to over 18 offices 200 00:09:26,465 --> 00:09:29,468 across the country, including 12 throughout Kansas 201 00:09:29,602 --> 00:09:32,972 with 100,000 Kansans underneath that group 202 00:09:32,972 --> 00:09:36,876 for Wealth Management, Life Insurance and other things at Northwestern Mutual. 203 00:09:37,043 --> 00:09:38,611 Through that program offered. 204 00:09:38,611 --> 00:09:41,614 Included in some of his other businesses. 205 00:09:41,714 --> 00:09:45,251 He's the largest national franchise owner of Strickland Brothers Quick 206 00:09:45,251 --> 00:09:47,219 Lubes, establishing locations across 207 00:09:47,219 --> 00:09:50,523 Kansas: Derby, Pittsburg, Fort Scott, Independence. 208 00:09:51,090 --> 00:09:53,526 And he is part owner of 513 209 00:09:53,526 --> 00:09:56,562 Films who have had actors like Mel Gibson in their films. 210 00:09:56,629 --> 00:09:59,632 I've actually seen some of those films and they do a pretty good job. 211 00:09:59,732 --> 00:10:04,337 Those are family centered films that are a little different than some of the stuff 212 00:10:04,337 --> 00:10:08,474 you see rolling out of Hollywood, so to say that you have multiple interest 213 00:10:09,542 --> 00:10:11,444 would be an understatement, I think. 214 00:10:11,444 --> 00:10:13,646 Yeah, I'm kind of a business mutt. 215 00:10:13,646 --> 00:10:14,280 Yeah, you. Are. 216 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,217 Yeah, but I've spent I really spent, 30 plus years, 217 00:10:18,217 --> 00:10:21,721 you know, in the insurance and investment business, wealth management business. 218 00:10:22,188 --> 00:10:25,725 And, we were able to, you know, grow our firm across 219 00:10:25,958 --> 00:10:30,262 multiple states Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Missouri, Kansas. 220 00:10:30,262 --> 00:10:35,368 But just in Kansas, we had clients in all 50 states, but just in Kansas, 221 00:10:36,035 --> 00:10:39,038 we had, almost 100,000 clients. 222 00:10:39,472 --> 00:10:44,377 We actually paid out almost $135 million in dividends last year. 223 00:10:44,377 --> 00:10:46,679 Just to residents in Kansas. 224 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,381 And you had 10 billion under. 225 00:10:48,381 --> 00:10:51,450 And just in Kansas, we have about, we had about 226 00:10:51,450 --> 00:10:54,453 $10 billion of assets under management. 227 00:10:54,587 --> 00:10:58,024 Those companies were sold as of August 31st. 228 00:10:58,024 --> 00:11:01,327 So this is my second day of retirement, quote unquote. 229 00:11:01,861 --> 00:11:05,131 And, He's going to retire like I do at 76. 230 00:11:05,398 --> 00:11:06,599 Okay. Not. 231 00:11:06,599 --> 00:11:09,301 Yeah. So we are, we're all in on this. 232 00:11:09,301 --> 00:11:13,039 I mean, we we really feel like, you know, you can't do this part time. 233 00:11:14,006 --> 00:11:14,974 We have a couple of 234 00:11:14,974 --> 00:11:18,244 our other businesses where we'll actually be selling as well. 235 00:11:19,111 --> 00:11:20,513 So it'll just leave us with a few. 236 00:11:20,513 --> 00:11:22,515 But I have great people running those, and I honestly, 237 00:11:22,515 --> 00:11:24,250 I don't spend a ton of time on them right now. 238 00:11:24,250 --> 00:11:26,886 Yeah, because you'll be you'll be spending all your time doing this. 239 00:11:26,886 --> 00:11:27,219 That's right. 240 00:11:27,219 --> 00:11:30,256 So so talk a little bit about some of the things that, you know, 241 00:11:30,456 --> 00:11:33,459 we talked a little bit about this off air before you went on. 242 00:11:33,526 --> 00:11:34,727 One of the problems we have 243 00:11:34,727 --> 00:11:38,664 in the market in Kansas specifically is we don't allow association plans in here. 244 00:11:38,798 --> 00:11:40,499 We're not doing anything creative. 245 00:11:40,499 --> 00:11:42,535 That's not just in insurance. By the way. 246 00:11:42,535 --> 00:11:44,336 We'll have that conversation later. 247 00:11:44,336 --> 00:11:46,672 But there's very little innovation. 248 00:11:46,672 --> 00:11:48,541 It's kind of like we're stuck in this rut. 249 00:11:48,541 --> 00:11:52,445 And this is why we we have to sell the ACA plans, Obamacare plans. 250 00:11:52,912 --> 00:11:55,681 Well that's great, but why don't you open the market up 251 00:11:55,681 --> 00:11:59,452 to allow other plans to come in that are not part of that ACA model? 252 00:11:59,585 --> 00:12:02,388 And you mentioned some things are going on in places like Florida. 253 00:12:02,388 --> 00:12:05,291 How do you see your vision affecting the way 254 00:12:05,291 --> 00:12:08,794 we provide health insurance, health benefits to people in Kansas? 255 00:12:08,794 --> 00:12:09,729 Philip. 256 00:12:09,729 --> 00:12:12,631 Well, I think at a high level, we have two major issues. 257 00:12:12,631 --> 00:12:15,634 One, we don't have enough competition, as you just stated. 258 00:12:15,735 --> 00:12:18,337 We need to open it up to association plans. 259 00:12:18,337 --> 00:12:19,872 I mean, I see what you've done 260 00:12:19,872 --> 00:12:23,843 as an entrepreneur with Gig Care, which I think is fantastic, 261 00:12:24,143 --> 00:12:28,748 and we need more of that in Kansas because that will lower prices. 262 00:12:29,381 --> 00:12:31,684 For people that'll help distribute 263 00:12:31,684 --> 00:12:35,187 the products better get them out to western Kansas, for example. 264 00:12:36,122 --> 00:12:37,156 But being able 265 00:12:37,156 --> 00:12:41,594 to band together and provide for association plans, 266 00:12:43,028 --> 00:12:47,133 and make it make it easier for smaller businesses 267 00:12:47,433 --> 00:12:50,503 to buy health insurance and to get started. 268 00:12:50,736 --> 00:12:55,174 One of the things, as I've spent a couple of years really evaluating, 269 00:12:55,441 --> 00:12:59,245 you know, whether or not I was going to run, I talked to a lot of people, 270 00:12:59,445 --> 00:13:02,448 including some Kansas legislators, for example. 271 00:13:02,782 --> 00:13:07,720 And as a business owner who owns numerous businesses, I know the challenges 272 00:13:07,953 --> 00:13:11,423 and the red tape and the bureaucracy that's here in the state of Kansas 273 00:13:11,657 --> 00:13:13,492 to get businesses started. 274 00:13:13,492 --> 00:13:15,294 And we've got to do away with that. 275 00:13:15,294 --> 00:13:19,064 I was having a conversation with a state senator, and she looked at me 276 00:13:19,064 --> 00:13:22,935 and said, Philip, you don't even you don't even know how bad it is. 277 00:13:23,202 --> 00:13:24,303 She said, it's even worse. 278 00:13:24,303 --> 00:13:26,038 I went through this long list 279 00:13:26,038 --> 00:13:28,641 and she looked at me and said, it's even worse than what you think. 280 00:13:28,641 --> 00:13:31,510 And people don't think that the oh, I'm in a Republican state, right? 281 00:13:31,510 --> 00:13:34,914 We've got Republican senators, Republican congressman, we've got a super majority. 282 00:13:35,347 --> 00:13:39,285 But the bureaucrats underneath all of this, right, are controlling it. 283 00:13:39,852 --> 00:13:43,122 You know, it's interesting because they are the 284 00:13:43,155 --> 00:13:46,892 they're not elected in these offices, but they exert so much control 285 00:13:47,159 --> 00:13:50,262 and pressure that I think it gets away from the politicians. 286 00:13:50,262 --> 00:13:54,066 I think it gets away from the state senators, the governor, the. 287 00:13:54,099 --> 00:13:57,303 Yeah, it it's it's almost like it's impenetrable. 288 00:13:57,670 --> 00:14:01,640 Well, I had a friend of mine who said, you know, what's so attractive 289 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:06,512 about you running as an outsider and somebody that's never been in politics 290 00:14:06,812 --> 00:14:10,216 is he said, it's the perspective that you bring. 291 00:14:10,583 --> 00:14:15,187 And his analogy was he said, these people that have been in politics 292 00:14:15,187 --> 00:14:18,490 all of these years, two and three decades have done nothing else. 293 00:14:18,991 --> 00:14:22,494 He said it's a little bit like a fish in water. 294 00:14:22,895 --> 00:14:28,033 He said, you have no concept what it's like to be outside of the water. 295 00:14:28,033 --> 00:14:31,036 If you've spent your entire life in the water 296 00:14:31,036 --> 00:14:34,373 and you know, maybe it sounds like a children's analogy, 297 00:14:34,673 --> 00:14:37,309 but the reality is, I think there's a lot of truth in that. 298 00:14:37,309 --> 00:14:41,413 And so I think people don't look at things in a creative way. 299 00:14:41,413 --> 00:14:46,352 They don't, they're just kind of caught up in, in all of that bureaucracy. 300 00:14:46,352 --> 00:14:49,555 Because the reality is, you know, there's a swamp 301 00:14:49,555 --> 00:14:53,092 in Washington DC, but there's a swamp in Topeka, too. 302 00:14:53,092 --> 00:14:53,492 Yes, there is. 303 00:14:53,492 --> 00:14:55,194 There's a little mini swamp out there. 304 00:14:55,194 --> 00:14:59,598 And, but it's a swamp nonetheless, and we need to get out there. 305 00:14:59,598 --> 00:15:02,668 And I think without question, I'm the best person to get in there 306 00:15:02,935 --> 00:15:03,903 and shake that up. 307 00:15:03,903 --> 00:15:05,604 Yeah, I think you definitely will be the best person 308 00:15:05,604 --> 00:15:08,774 to get in there and shake it up, because you're not a typical politician. 309 00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:12,611 So before we go to break a little bit about an example that plan 310 00:15:12,611 --> 00:15:14,446 that’s in Florida that you brought to my attention. 311 00:15:14,446 --> 00:15:16,315 Yeah. Talk about what they're doing in Florida. 312 00:15:16,315 --> 00:15:16,582 Yeah. 313 00:15:16,582 --> 00:15:19,585 So Florida's doing a section 804 314 00:15:19,919 --> 00:15:23,522 import program is what they're doing, the importation program, SIP. 315 00:15:23,923 --> 00:15:25,157 And it's very unique. 316 00:15:25,157 --> 00:15:28,160 They're the only state in the country that's doing it right now. 317 00:15:28,260 --> 00:15:32,131 We're doing a lot of research on it, but it really looks like Florida, 318 00:15:32,131 --> 00:15:35,401 now, they're starting it at the at the public sector. 319 00:15:35,501 --> 00:15:37,736 So it's not going out private yet. 320 00:15:37,736 --> 00:15:40,105 So I think it's a little bit of a pilot program right now. 321 00:15:40,105 --> 00:15:44,543 But they're expecting to save about $183 million for the state 322 00:15:44,910 --> 00:15:45,978 through that program. 323 00:15:45,978 --> 00:15:48,981 And what they're going to be doing is importing drugs from Canada. 324 00:15:49,281 --> 00:15:52,151 And you know, whether sure, the drama is in the details. 325 00:15:52,151 --> 00:15:52,685 And, you know, 326 00:15:52,685 --> 00:15:56,288 we would need to put something together to obviously take a look at that. 327 00:15:56,455 --> 00:16:00,726 But that's the kind of innovation that Kansas needs to be leading on. 328 00:16:00,993 --> 00:16:01,727 And that's what 329 00:16:01,727 --> 00:16:04,897 I want to bring to the table as governor, as the CEO of the state, 330 00:16:05,130 --> 00:16:08,167 is to be leading the other states with that type of innovation. 331 00:16:08,367 --> 00:16:09,601 So let me give you an example. 332 00:16:09,601 --> 00:16:11,470 Wegovey, the weight loss drug. 333 00:16:11,470 --> 00:16:15,274 If you can't get it as by virtue of the fact that you're a diabetic 334 00:16:15,507 --> 00:16:19,578 and you want to buy it, just because you want to lose weight, it's $1,100 a month. 335 00:16:19,945 --> 00:16:24,516 You know what it costs if it comes in from Canada, New Zealand or Australia, $88. 336 00:16:24,750 --> 00:16:27,519 $88 versus $1100. 337 00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:29,922 So what's the commonsense alternative? 338 00:16:29,922 --> 00:16:31,357 You just heard it right. 339 00:16:31,357 --> 00:16:35,361 This is what I mean when I talk about thinking outside the box 340 00:16:35,361 --> 00:16:37,563 and having somebody run for this office, 341 00:16:37,563 --> 00:16:40,499 it's going to make a difference because they're not going to be stuck 342 00:16:40,499 --> 00:16:42,701 doing the same things that we've always done. 343 00:16:42,701 --> 00:16:44,937 When you ask the question, why do we do it that way? 344 00:16:44,937 --> 00:16:46,505 Well, that's the way we've always done it. 345 00:16:46,505 --> 00:16:47,806 I think it's time to get rid of. 346 00:16:47,806 --> 00:16:49,742 It's the way we've always done it. Yeah. 347 00:16:49,742 --> 00:16:51,143 We'll be right back after the break. 348 00:16:51,143 --> 00:16:52,444 You're listening to America's 349 00:16:52,444 --> 00:16:56,548 Healthcare Advocate broadcasting here on The HIA Radio Network. 350 00:16:56,749 --> 00:16:58,650 Coast to coast across the USA. 351 00:16:58,650 --> 00:17:02,121 If you want to get involved, the website is philipsarnecki.org. 352 00:17:02,254 --> 00:17:04,656 philipsarnecki.org. 353 00:17:04,656 --> 00:17:07,259 You can go up on the website, you can become a volunteer. 354 00:17:07,259 --> 00:17:09,962 You want to donate? I’m sure they’d be happy to have you do that. 355 00:17:09,962 --> 00:17:11,764 We'll be right back after the break. Stay tuned. 356 00:17:23,208 --> 00:17:24,009 Welcome back. 357 00:17:24,009 --> 00:17:25,110 You're listening to America's 358 00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:28,981 Healthcare Advocates Show, broadcasting coast to coast across USA. 359 00:17:29,248 --> 00:17:33,252 He is Philip Sarnecki, he is running for governor in the state of Kansas. 360 00:17:33,252 --> 00:17:36,822 And I asked him to come on this broadcast and talk about what his vision is. 361 00:17:37,122 --> 00:17:39,925 The website is philipsarnecki.org. 362 00:17:39,925 --> 00:17:41,860 philipsarnecki.org. 363 00:17:41,860 --> 00:17:44,797 If you want to get involved. 364 00:17:44,797 --> 00:17:48,233 If you want somebody in the state of Kansas who's not a politician, 365 00:17:48,534 --> 00:17:51,470 if you want somebody in the state of Kansas who is a CEO 366 00:17:51,470 --> 00:17:55,074 and understands how to run a business and you want to see what that looks like. 367 00:17:55,207 --> 00:17:57,843 Take a look at what's happening in Virginia right now 368 00:17:57,843 --> 00:18:00,979 and what governor Youngkin has been able to accomplish. 369 00:18:01,180 --> 00:18:04,850 And then ask yourself what that would look like in the state of Kansas. 370 00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:07,553 Years ago, I don't that was probably. 371 00:18:07,553 --> 00:18:09,254 Had to be at least six years or more. 372 00:18:10,322 --> 00:18:11,390 I attended one of 373 00:18:11,390 --> 00:18:14,827 your one of your training sessions as an observer. 374 00:18:15,194 --> 00:18:18,297 And, all these young people from college 375 00:18:18,297 --> 00:18:21,300 who were being recruited come to work at Northwestern Mutual. 376 00:18:21,633 --> 00:18:23,302 And I’d watch you get up in front of them. 377 00:18:23,302 --> 00:18:27,473 And I'm thinking to myself, before you started, they're going to see this guy 378 00:18:27,473 --> 00:18:30,476 who is very wealthy, has, 379 00:18:30,509 --> 00:18:33,812 very successful businesses, runs his whole show here, 380 00:18:34,012 --> 00:18:38,317 also runs, you know, Northwestern Mutual in New Mexico and Arizona. 381 00:18:38,584 --> 00:18:41,520 And they're going to see a very successful businessman. 382 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,523 And then you got up there and you told the story. 383 00:18:44,790 --> 00:18:48,193 And I was thinking about that over the weekend before we came to the show. 384 00:18:48,193 --> 00:18:51,230 And I was, I would say, moved, okay. 385 00:18:51,230 --> 00:18:54,032 Because I grew up in a situation very similar to yours. 386 00:18:54,032 --> 00:18:56,034 My father was a coal miner, okay. 387 00:18:56,034 --> 00:18:58,604 Who then became a finish carpenter. Self-taught. 388 00:18:58,604 --> 00:19:00,439 Your father was a janitor. 389 00:19:00,439 --> 00:19:03,375 So, Philip, nobody put a silver spoon in your mouth. 390 00:19:03,375 --> 00:19:04,710 Let's talk about your story 391 00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:07,713 and how you started your family and the whole nine yards. 392 00:19:07,846 --> 00:19:08,013 Yeah. 393 00:19:08,013 --> 00:19:12,351 I grew up in a in a small town, a little farming community, 394 00:19:12,351 --> 00:19:13,519 about a thousand people. 395 00:19:13,519 --> 00:19:17,756 You know, one of those places with, no stoplights and one gas station. 396 00:19:17,756 --> 00:19:19,658 One grocery store. 397 00:19:19,658 --> 00:19:23,162 You know, a lot more churches than grocery stores and gas stations. 398 00:19:23,495 --> 00:19:25,364 And it was just it was a great place to grow up. 399 00:19:25,364 --> 00:19:27,866 And, you know, we didn't farm, 400 00:19:27,866 --> 00:19:31,136 but a lot of my friends, either they did or their grandparents did. 401 00:19:31,670 --> 00:19:35,974 And, I grew up, you know, I had to earn any money 402 00:19:35,974 --> 00:19:39,444 that I wanted to spend, and it was delivering newspapers. 403 00:19:39,978 --> 00:19:42,281 My brother and I would mow lawns. 404 00:19:42,281 --> 00:19:45,918 We walked, I walked beans, which is a horrid, 405 00:19:45,918 --> 00:19:49,321 horribly miserable job for a 13 or 14 year old. 406 00:19:50,022 --> 00:19:51,690 Most people don't even know what that is. 407 00:19:51,690 --> 00:19:52,658 What is walking beans? 408 00:19:52,658 --> 00:19:55,994 Well, yeah, walking beans you get up at, you know, 6:00 in the morning. 409 00:19:55,994 --> 00:19:57,896 And keep in mind, you're 13, 14 years old. 410 00:19:57,896 --> 00:19:59,531 15 years old. 411 00:19:59,531 --> 00:20:02,534 You have long sleeves, long pants in the summer. 412 00:20:02,634 --> 00:20:03,635 It's blazing hot. 413 00:20:03,635 --> 00:20:06,705 And you basically literally spend 7 or 8 hours 414 00:20:06,705 --> 00:20:09,708 walking up and down, bean rows, 415 00:20:09,808 --> 00:20:12,811 and you've got a hook and you're pulling out the button weeds, etc.. 416 00:20:13,612 --> 00:20:16,114 Now they kill all of that with, you know, Roundup. 417 00:20:16,114 --> 00:20:18,083 Yeah, right. Herbicide, pesticides, etc.. 418 00:20:19,184 --> 00:20:20,319 The technology's a lot 419 00:20:20,319 --> 00:20:23,322 better than having a 14 year old do it, but, 420 00:20:23,522 --> 00:20:26,525 it will make you want to go to college, I can tell you that. 421 00:20:26,658 --> 00:20:28,860 But it also, you know, it's one of those things. 422 00:20:28,860 --> 00:20:34,032 I hated it at the time, but looking back, the values that that teaches around 423 00:20:34,032 --> 00:20:37,803 hard work and discipline, they're invaluable. 424 00:20:38,203 --> 00:20:41,206 They became invaluable to me later in life. 425 00:20:41,740 --> 00:20:43,675 So my father, 426 00:20:43,675 --> 00:20:47,579 my mom and dad met very young and, got married and, 427 00:20:47,579 --> 00:20:51,683 you know, then had me, my dad prior to that had been in Vietnam. 428 00:20:52,084 --> 00:20:53,885 And, he went there. 429 00:20:53,885 --> 00:20:57,189 He had, I believe 20, 20 vision, if I'm not mistaken. 430 00:20:57,589 --> 00:21:00,993 And when he came back because of Agent Orange, you know, 431 00:21:00,993 --> 00:21:03,061 he was legally blind at night. 432 00:21:03,061 --> 00:21:07,532 And so even though he was trained to be a paramedic, he could do that part time, 433 00:21:07,532 --> 00:21:10,502 but because he couldn't drive at night, he couldn't do it full time. 434 00:21:10,869 --> 00:21:13,939 And so, you know, he didn't have a lot of options for work. 435 00:21:13,939 --> 00:21:18,210 So he was a janitor, for, 35 years. 436 00:21:18,210 --> 00:21:20,445 And, but, you know, I saw both my parents. 437 00:21:20,445 --> 00:21:22,080 My mom worked numerous jobs. 438 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,815 She worked as a secretary, 439 00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:26,118 at the university. 440 00:21:26,118 --> 00:21:31,990 She, would wake up at, you know, four, 4:30 in the morning and go, go downtown. 441 00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:34,593 Now downtown was, you know, extremely small. 442 00:21:34,593 --> 00:21:35,394 Right? 443 00:21:35,394 --> 00:21:38,397 It was like Gary's Pizza, the bank, the bowling alley. 444 00:21:38,397 --> 00:21:39,731 And that was about it. 445 00:21:39,731 --> 00:21:42,367 And then the donut shop, and she'd go down and make donuts, 446 00:21:42,367 --> 00:21:46,238 and then she'd come home and help the kids get ready and get us off to school. 447 00:21:46,238 --> 00:21:48,173 And then she'd go to her regular job. 448 00:21:48,173 --> 00:21:52,110 And then I'd oftentimes see my father as he worked all day long as a janitor. 449 00:21:52,110 --> 00:21:54,012 And then in the evening, he would come home 450 00:21:54,012 --> 00:21:56,381 and he would go off to work. 451 00:21:56,381 --> 00:21:59,885 You know, doing, work as a paramedic, as a part time paramedic. 452 00:21:59,885 --> 00:22:02,521 So, you know, I just watched my parents work really hard. 453 00:22:02,521 --> 00:22:04,156 I mean, we didn't have a lot of money. 454 00:22:04,156 --> 00:22:06,825 You know, I grew up in about a 950 square foot home 455 00:22:06,825 --> 00:22:09,661 with five of us and one really, really small bathroom. 456 00:22:09,661 --> 00:22:10,796 That's small. That small? 457 00:22:10,796 --> 00:22:12,030 Yeah, it's it is small. 458 00:22:12,030 --> 00:22:15,867 And, I didn't even realize how small it was at the time. 459 00:22:16,401 --> 00:22:19,037 We had a neighbor a couple doors down that had two bathrooms, 460 00:22:19,037 --> 00:22:23,275 and I thought they were loaded, you know, because they had two bathrooms, and, 461 00:22:24,042 --> 00:22:26,611 And you know, again, you look back and, 462 00:22:26,611 --> 00:22:28,980 I didn't love, 463 00:22:28,980 --> 00:22:31,950 not having some of the financial resources, 464 00:22:31,950 --> 00:22:35,787 that I saw other kids have, but I wouldn't change it for the world. 465 00:22:35,787 --> 00:22:40,359 Looking back now, because my parents taught me, I think what's truly important. 466 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,463 My father passed away last year, but they were married for 58 years. 467 00:22:45,230 --> 00:22:47,699 And I saw that dedication to each other. 468 00:22:47,699 --> 00:22:50,068 I saw incredibly hard work. 469 00:22:50,068 --> 00:22:54,373 Faith was always important in our family and just the importance of family as well. 470 00:22:54,573 --> 00:22:59,044 And, so, you know, looking back now, I couldn't be more 471 00:22:59,044 --> 00:23:02,781 thankful and appreciative for my parents and really, the whole environment 472 00:23:03,148 --> 00:23:06,151 in which I grew up, which was not a lot of money. 473 00:23:06,151 --> 00:23:12,557 And I, you know, I have some stories, when we were, kids, we had a white station 474 00:23:12,557 --> 00:23:16,628 wagon, and it had a hole in the floorboard behind the driver's seat. 475 00:23:17,062 --> 00:23:19,331 So my brother and I called it the Flintstones car. 476 00:23:20,298 --> 00:23:22,834 This was before the days of that. 477 00:23:22,834 --> 00:23:26,071 Seatbelts were really, you know, really important. 478 00:23:26,071 --> 00:23:28,740 And, are really valued. 479 00:23:28,740 --> 00:23:33,512 And my dad would put a, a wood board and a blanket over it, and but we would, 480 00:23:33,612 --> 00:23:36,782 you know, we'd love to, to pick that up and kind of look at the, 481 00:23:37,182 --> 00:23:39,751 the road flying by us underneath. 482 00:23:39,751 --> 00:23:41,686 And if you remember those little rubber balls, 483 00:23:41,686 --> 00:23:42,454 we would kind of like 484 00:23:42,454 --> 00:23:45,590 dropping those out of there and then racing to the back of the station 485 00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:48,593 wagon, watching them go bouncing down the road. 486 00:23:49,494 --> 00:23:51,363 And then when I, when we got older, 487 00:23:51,363 --> 00:23:55,066 when I was in high school, we, we moved up to a yellow station wagon. 488 00:23:55,767 --> 00:23:58,737 Things were a little better by then, but it didn't go in reverse. 489 00:23:58,737 --> 00:24:00,338 So this was the car that I drove in 490 00:24:00,338 --> 00:24:03,608 high school, was a yellow station wagon that didn't go in reverse. 491 00:24:03,608 --> 00:24:06,611 And, you know, you got to be really careful how you park. 492 00:24:06,878 --> 00:24:09,114 You have a car that doesn't go in reverse. 493 00:24:09,114 --> 00:24:11,983 But, you know, I remember I was really young. 494 00:24:11,983 --> 00:24:12,751 I remember, 495 00:24:13,852 --> 00:24:16,021 you know, maybe being seven years old. 496 00:24:16,021 --> 00:24:20,325 I'm kind of guessing, you know, walk out into the kitchen and, you know, 497 00:24:20,325 --> 00:24:23,094 my mom is sitting at the kitchen table and she's got, 498 00:24:23,094 --> 00:24:24,596 bills spread out all over the table, 499 00:24:24,596 --> 00:24:27,732 and she she's in tears because she doesn't know what bills to pay. 500 00:24:28,366 --> 00:24:31,937 And, you know, I think why that's important is because 501 00:24:31,937 --> 00:24:35,106 I think that drives a lot of the way 502 00:24:35,106 --> 00:24:39,511 that I look at the working class people in the state of Kansas 503 00:24:39,911 --> 00:24:42,581 and what we would do to try to help. 504 00:24:42,581 --> 00:24:45,684 I mean, those memories are seared into my brain, 505 00:24:45,984 --> 00:24:50,155 and all of that is the lens with which I look through. 506 00:24:50,522 --> 00:24:54,459 You know, if I were to become governor and to lead this state. 507 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,429 And that's a very different approach. 508 00:24:57,429 --> 00:24:57,662 Okay. 509 00:24:57,662 --> 00:25:00,332 Your your story mirrors mine in a lot of ways. 510 00:25:00,332 --> 00:25:04,569 But, you know, like, I my we never owned a car even with a hole in the floor. 511 00:25:04,569 --> 00:25:05,337 Yeah. Right. 512 00:25:05,337 --> 00:25:07,038 But but but I get that. 513 00:25:07,038 --> 00:25:10,675 And your point about looking back on that and not regretting it, 514 00:25:10,976 --> 00:25:14,312 you know, I my father used to he'd get up in the morning, come in the room. 515 00:25:14,546 --> 00:25:16,114 Get up babe, you're going to hit a lick. 516 00:25:16,114 --> 00:25:17,949 And that meant we're going to go to work. 517 00:25:17,949 --> 00:25:19,651 And we’d be in it for 12 hours a day. 518 00:25:19,651 --> 00:25:20,886 That's the way he worked. 519 00:25:20,886 --> 00:25:24,990 So you learn the value of that and that carried over. 520 00:25:25,290 --> 00:25:28,293 You started out Northwestern Mutual at the bottom of the rung 521 00:25:28,927 --> 00:25:32,831 where you wind up by the time you wound up leaving Northwestern Mutual. 522 00:25:32,831 --> 00:25:34,833 Well, you know, it's such a unique company 523 00:25:34,833 --> 00:25:36,334 because you're really running your own business. 524 00:25:36,334 --> 00:25:38,203 You're just kind of doing it under their umbrella. 525 00:25:38,203 --> 00:25:41,606 So as a 19 year old, I had a really good friend 526 00:25:41,606 --> 00:25:44,075 and they lived a very, very, very different lifestyle. 527 00:25:44,075 --> 00:25:48,980 Although their, their estate, their 86 acre estate was very close 528 00:25:49,281 --> 00:25:52,717 to our home in a it was only about two miles away, 529 00:25:52,717 --> 00:25:56,054 but it seemed worlds away of course, tennis court, basketball court 530 00:25:56,054 --> 00:26:00,058 at 10,000 square foot, home, a lake that we would waterski on. 531 00:26:00,058 --> 00:26:04,763 And I got to spend time out there and, his my buddy's 532 00:26:04,763 --> 00:26:09,501 dad owned an agency office and, you know, was very successful, 533 00:26:09,501 --> 00:26:14,306 not just financially, but, also how he controlled his time as well. 534 00:26:14,306 --> 00:26:16,274 And the, the importance of family. 535 00:26:16,274 --> 00:26:17,242 And, you know, how 536 00:26:17,242 --> 00:26:21,179 he was able to coach his kids and and just be there and be present. 537 00:26:21,513 --> 00:26:23,748 And so I got to watch that. 538 00:26:23,748 --> 00:26:26,518 But I started as a 19 year old, 539 00:26:26,518 --> 00:26:29,654 really was my first business where I was selling insurance. 540 00:26:29,654 --> 00:26:32,123 So I kind of grew up in sales. 541 00:26:32,123 --> 00:26:36,061 But I had a lot of success with it early on, and I needed the money. 542 00:26:36,061 --> 00:26:39,264 I had, you know, I, I played football for one year in college, 543 00:26:39,264 --> 00:26:40,699 but after that, I didn't even really play. 544 00:26:40,699 --> 00:26:42,067 I practiced for one year. 545 00:26:42,067 --> 00:26:44,102 I redshirted and practiced for one year. 546 00:26:44,102 --> 00:26:47,305 But I would, you know, I needed money. 547 00:26:47,305 --> 00:26:50,308 I needed to pay for school, I needed spending money. 548 00:26:50,475 --> 00:26:54,512 And so as a 19 year old, I was out working really 40 549 00:26:54,512 --> 00:26:58,016 plus hours a week in addition to going to school as well. 550 00:26:58,350 --> 00:27:01,953 And, then was able just to leverage that into eventually owning 551 00:27:01,953 --> 00:27:05,023 an agency office myself. So if you wonder 552 00:27:06,124 --> 00:27:08,460 how that story resonates, 553 00:27:08,460 --> 00:27:11,663 you should have seen the people after he did this, whenever he was 554 00:27:11,663 --> 00:27:15,934 briefing young people who were tempted to come to work at Northwestern Mutual. 555 00:27:16,134 --> 00:27:18,803 In other words, nobody handed him anything. 556 00:27:18,803 --> 00:27:19,337 Okay? 557 00:27:19,337 --> 00:27:23,241 What he has created, what he has done with the multiple businesses he’s owned 558 00:27:23,475 --> 00:27:24,476 and the success he’s 559 00:27:24,476 --> 00:27:28,413 had is the same vision he wants to bring to the state of Kansas. 560 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,250 If you want more information, it's philipsarnecki.org. 561 00:27:32,250 --> 00:27:34,953 philipsarnecki.org. That's the website. 562 00:27:34,953 --> 00:27:37,455 Lots of information up there. You want to volunteer. 563 00:27:37,455 --> 00:27:39,124 You want to get behind this man. 564 00:27:39,124 --> 00:27:41,126 That's your opportunity to do it. Stay tuned. 565 00:27:41,126 --> 00:27:42,560 We'll be right back after the break. 566 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,296 You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate 567 00:27:45,296 --> 00:27:48,299 Broadcasting here on The HIA Radio Network. 568 00:27:48,433 --> 00:27:51,269 Coast to coast Cross, USA. Stay right there. 569 00:27:57,676 --> 00:27:58,376 Welcome back. 570 00:27:58,376 --> 00:28:02,280 You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate show broadcasting coast to coast 571 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,515 across the USA. 572 00:28:03,515 --> 00:28:05,283 My producers: Behind the camera Mr. 573 00:28:05,283 --> 00:28:08,553 Dave Thiessen, doing what he always does, recording all these shows 574 00:28:08,553 --> 00:28:10,455 and getting them up on our YouTube channel. 575 00:28:10,455 --> 00:28:12,090 Half a million views. 576 00:28:12,090 --> 00:28:13,525 Thanks to all of you 577 00:28:13,525 --> 00:28:17,162 out there in the listening audience and those 16 podcast channels. 578 00:28:17,295 --> 00:28:19,764 A lot of folks going up there and listening to these shows 579 00:28:19,764 --> 00:28:20,999 behind the microphones. Mr. 580 00:28:20,999 --> 00:28:24,102 Gardner Cowdrey here with Cumulus folks, we're very happy 581 00:28:24,102 --> 00:28:28,006 to be here in studio today and doing this show with Philip Sarnecki. 582 00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:31,042 He is a gubernatorial candidate for the state of Kansas. 583 00:28:31,443 --> 00:28:34,145 And we're happy that he took time to come in and talk to us 584 00:28:34,145 --> 00:28:37,015 about what his vision for the state of Kansas is. 585 00:28:37,015 --> 00:28:38,983 I heard a rumor you're producing a book. 586 00:28:38,983 --> 00:28:41,986 Writing a book? Well, I'm. Yes. 587 00:28:42,053 --> 00:28:44,489 You know, I'm working with some people that are helping me write a book. 588 00:28:44,489 --> 00:28:45,190 Okay. 589 00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:48,660 Given the story that you just talked about, a little bit about my upbringing 590 00:28:48,660 --> 00:28:52,263 and some of the things we we've been able to do, I've had people for, 591 00:28:52,897 --> 00:28:54,032 years, kind of mentioned. 592 00:28:54,032 --> 00:28:56,101 Well, you should write a book. You should write a book. 593 00:28:56,101 --> 00:28:57,268 And I always just. 594 00:28:57,268 --> 00:28:59,370 I'm like, when in the world would I have time? 595 00:28:59,370 --> 00:29:01,773 I heard that a couple of times, like, yeah, nevermind. 596 00:29:01,773 --> 00:29:07,512 And but as we started exploring this and, and it came up or I threw it out, people, 597 00:29:07,545 --> 00:29:09,748 you know, would say, boy, that'd be a great 598 00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:13,351 way for people to hear your story and learn your story. 599 00:29:13,585 --> 00:29:15,086 So we went ahead and started it. 600 00:29:15,086 --> 00:29:17,722 And yeah, it should hopefully be wrapped up in the next couple of months, 601 00:29:17,722 --> 00:29:19,591 and we'll have a book out and we'll be able to take it out 602 00:29:19,591 --> 00:29:20,792 across the state of Kansas. 603 00:29:20,792 --> 00:29:23,495 And they can, you know, in a deeper way, share, 604 00:29:23,495 --> 00:29:26,131 you know, learn a little bit more about my story. 605 00:29:26,131 --> 00:29:29,467 We share a lot of leadership lessons in there throughout my career. 606 00:29:29,701 --> 00:29:31,269 And I think just life lessons as well. 607 00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:33,638 When you get it ready to go, you have to come back on and we’ll talk about it. 608 00:29:33,638 --> 00:29:34,072 I’d love to, that’s great. 609 00:29:34,072 --> 00:29:37,976 So what do you see as the you know, here we are in Johnson County, Kansas, 610 00:29:37,976 --> 00:29:40,044 number four, wealthiest county in the country. 611 00:29:40,044 --> 00:29:44,382 That shocks a lot of people when I say that because we're in flyover country. 612 00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:46,951 Okay. But that is fact, okay. 613 00:29:46,951 --> 00:29:50,522 And you're in the number three most livable city in the country. 614 00:29:50,522 --> 00:29:51,489 Voted number three 615 00:29:51,489 --> 00:29:54,492 this year after being number four, number five last couple years. 616 00:29:54,492 --> 00:29:56,828 But our taxes are pretty damn high. 617 00:29:56,828 --> 00:30:00,932 Philip, I mean what I pay in property taxes, we've got great school districts. 618 00:30:00,932 --> 00:30:03,434 But I mean those numbers are pretty high. 619 00:30:03,434 --> 00:30:06,805 How do you envision this whole tax question across the state of Kansas? 620 00:30:07,472 --> 00:30:10,375 And, and how do you see that impacting this election? 621 00:30:10,375 --> 00:30:13,678 Well, there's a lot of, you know, there's 105 counties in Kansas, 622 00:30:13,678 --> 00:30:16,481 so there's a lot more counties than just Johnson County. Correct. 623 00:30:16,481 --> 00:30:19,751 And, you know, part of the problem that I think 624 00:30:19,851 --> 00:30:23,655 and one of the reasons I decided to run is I believe that Kansas 625 00:30:23,655 --> 00:30:26,991 has been mired in mediocrity for a long, long time. 626 00:30:27,692 --> 00:30:31,029 We have not been able to grow our population base to speak of. 627 00:30:31,563 --> 00:30:35,433 We have the highest income tax rate of all of our border states. 628 00:30:35,433 --> 00:30:38,036 Plus, you can throw in Iowa and Arkansas, 629 00:30:38,036 --> 00:30:40,505 and those are really the states that we compete with. 630 00:30:40,505 --> 00:30:45,276 We also have the second highest corporate tax rate of all of those states as well. 631 00:30:45,577 --> 00:30:47,478 And then you mentioned property taxes, 632 00:30:47,478 --> 00:30:50,481 which in some areas are just completely out of control. 633 00:30:50,481 --> 00:30:53,484 Now, a lot of that is obviously, 634 00:30:53,551 --> 00:30:56,588 the decisions and is administered locally at the city. 635 00:30:56,588 --> 00:30:59,824 And, and state, city and local level. 636 00:31:00,225 --> 00:31:04,195 But but I think there are some things that we can do from a state standpoint, 637 00:31:04,863 --> 00:31:08,032 as well, I think, you know, you can use it as a little bit of a bully pulpit 638 00:31:08,032 --> 00:31:08,933 as well. 639 00:31:08,933 --> 00:31:12,003 And, to be able to, to get those down. 640 00:31:12,003 --> 00:31:15,707 I just think the whole concept of paying off your home 641 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,377 after living in it for 25, 30 years or whatever it may be, 642 00:31:20,011 --> 00:31:22,981 and then your home is paid off, but you have to continue 643 00:31:22,981 --> 00:31:25,984 to pay taxes to the government. 644 00:31:27,085 --> 00:31:30,688 Is really it's like you really never own your home. 645 00:31:31,189 --> 00:31:34,158 And so it's something we need to dig into. 646 00:31:34,158 --> 00:31:34,893 And and again, 647 00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:38,763 we need to be bold and taking action and seeing what we can make happen there. 648 00:31:38,830 --> 00:31:41,766 So a couple things that number one, you that resonates 649 00:31:41,766 --> 00:31:44,769 really well with those of us that are chronologically challenged 650 00:31:44,769 --> 00:31:47,372 because there there are a lot of seniors that this is a struggle for. 651 00:31:47,372 --> 00:31:50,341 Oh, so that that's definitely an issue. But let's talk about this. 652 00:31:50,341 --> 00:31:54,112 Why can't we attract young talent to Kansas? 653 00:31:54,112 --> 00:31:57,081 Why don't we attract, 654 00:31:57,081 --> 00:31:58,549 technology to Kansas? 655 00:31:58,549 --> 00:32:00,285 You you've got a skilled workforce. 656 00:32:00,285 --> 00:32:03,288 You've got a great it's a wonderful place to live, 657 00:32:04,322 --> 00:32:05,223 all these opportunities. 658 00:32:05,223 --> 00:32:08,159 But for some reason, we don't seem to be doing any of that. 659 00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:11,396 Yet I see there's other states doing that all the time. 660 00:32:12,363 --> 00:32:13,331 Yeah. 661 00:32:13,331 --> 00:32:15,800 So I think there's a couple of things that are happening there. 662 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,235 I mean, you mentioned Glenn Youngkin 663 00:32:17,235 --> 00:32:21,205 earlier, I'm connected with Glenn Youngkin on LinkedIn, and I see, 664 00:32:21,339 --> 00:32:23,975 I mean, a couple of times a week, he's talking about a new business 665 00:32:23,975 --> 00:32:26,978 that's coming to Virginia or a new business startup in Virginia. 666 00:32:27,211 --> 00:32:29,314 Company expands in Virginia. 667 00:32:29,314 --> 00:32:32,150 He is doing a phenomenal job as the chief 668 00:32:32,150 --> 00:32:35,119 cheerleader of that state for business. 669 00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:38,189 And, you know, when you're attracting business, you're attracting jobs. 670 00:32:38,356 --> 00:32:40,658 We also and we talked about this earlier. 671 00:32:40,658 --> 00:32:44,162 We have to make it simpler, get rid of the red tape 672 00:32:44,162 --> 00:32:47,498 and the bureaucracy for new business startups. 673 00:32:47,865 --> 00:32:51,636 Because if you do that then you you don't have to go out and give 674 00:32:51,636 --> 00:32:55,940 these tax abatements to big companies to get them to come to Kansas. 675 00:32:56,207 --> 00:32:59,544 You can get, you know, the Garmin’s of the world that start here. 676 00:32:59,777 --> 00:33:03,848 You can get the companies that get the get started here and grow here. 677 00:33:04,082 --> 00:33:08,453 And so by by eliminating a lot of that red tape and bureaucracy, 678 00:33:08,453 --> 00:33:12,056 making it easier for business startups, that's going to help with that as well. 679 00:33:12,423 --> 00:33:14,325 So it's kind of a cyclical thing, right? 680 00:33:14,325 --> 00:33:18,730 Or not a cyclical thing, but it's kind of a, you know, chicken and chicken and egg 681 00:33:19,097 --> 00:33:23,101 because what happens is, you know, companies say, well, we need the talent. 682 00:33:23,501 --> 00:33:26,371 And then, you know, the, the, the students 683 00:33:26,371 --> 00:33:29,640 or the people that are graduating and they want to stay here and work here. 684 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,277 Now, we do attract a lot of businesses or a lot of, 685 00:33:34,045 --> 00:33:36,280 students, but we also lose a lot of people. 686 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,016 Once they graduate as well. 687 00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:41,786 And so we have all kinds of ideas on how we can, 688 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,757 get, get folks to stay here and help them build businesses here. 689 00:33:45,790 --> 00:33:47,558 You know, one of the things about this generation 690 00:33:47,558 --> 00:33:50,461 that's really interesting is they're pretty entrepreneurial. 691 00:33:50,461 --> 00:33:54,032 And I think if you if you take the obstacles out of the way, 692 00:33:54,732 --> 00:33:57,468 I think we can get a lot of business startups here in the state. 693 00:33:57,468 --> 00:34:02,206 And encourage them to do it and not try to make it more difficult for them to do it 694 00:34:02,407 --> 00:34:05,643 instead of having to jump to 15 hoops, maybe only three hoops. 695 00:34:05,877 --> 00:34:07,712 And you're. There. Yeah, absolutely. 696 00:34:07,712 --> 00:34:11,716 It's, it's businesses are succeeding 697 00:34:11,716 --> 00:34:14,719 in spite of the state of Kansas right now. 698 00:34:15,219 --> 00:34:19,757 The state of Kansas is not helping, new businesses succeed. 699 00:34:20,024 --> 00:34:21,459 And that's what we need to do. 700 00:34:21,459 --> 00:34:22,360 Yeah. 701 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,361 He's Philip Sarnecki. 702 00:34:23,361 --> 00:34:25,830 He's running for governor in the state of Kansas. 703 00:34:25,830 --> 00:34:28,232 The website is philipsarnecki.org. 704 00:34:28,232 --> 00:34:29,834 philipsarnecki.org. 705 00:34:30,902 --> 00:34:31,269 I think 706 00:34:31,269 --> 00:34:34,272 you can see why I think he's going to be a good fit for the state. 707 00:34:34,272 --> 00:34:35,706 I've never done this before. 708 00:34:35,706 --> 00:34:36,941 I don't do politics. 709 00:34:36,941 --> 00:34:40,711 You know that other than it applies to health issues like ACA 710 00:34:40,711 --> 00:34:42,080 and some of the other things. 711 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,816 But in this particular case, I thought it was appropriate. 712 00:34:44,816 --> 00:34:47,618 I think this is somebody that thinks outside the box, 713 00:34:47,618 --> 00:34:50,555 and I think he's somebody can make an enormous difference 714 00:34:50,555 --> 00:34:52,957 in this state and move us down the path 715 00:34:52,957 --> 00:34:56,928 a lot further than we are today, and put aside some of the political nonsense 716 00:34:56,928 --> 00:34:57,662 that goes on. 717 00:34:57,662 --> 00:35:01,599 And let's focus on what it would be like to have an actual CEO 718 00:35:01,999 --> 00:35:05,036 as governor, somebody that looks at this as a business. 719 00:35:05,369 --> 00:35:06,871 You've got a model for that. 720 00:35:06,871 --> 00:35:09,440 He's sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. 721 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,609 This could be a model very similar to that. 722 00:35:11,609 --> 00:35:12,777 Thank you for coming on the show. 723 00:35:12,777 --> 00:35:13,544 Thank you, Cary. Thanks so much for having me here, 724 00:35:15,813 --> 00:35:18,483 And now, ladies and gentlemen, I leave you with this thought from Albert 725 00:35:18,483 --> 00:35:22,620 Einstein, the one who follows the crowd usually get no further than the crowd. 726 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,225 The one who walks alone is likely to find himself in places no one has ever been. 727 00:35:27,592 --> 00:35:29,827 Remember, friends, it's a funny thing about life. 728 00:35:29,827 --> 00:35:32,864 If you refuse to accept anything but the very best. 729 00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:34,532 You most often get it. 730 00:35:34,532 --> 00:35:38,169 Thank you for listening to America's Healthcare Advocate broadcasting coast 731 00:35:38,169 --> 00:35:42,540 to coast across USA here on the HIA Radio network. 732 00:35:42,807 --> 00:35:44,175 Goodbye America.