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please give Carolee Steele
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She's an expert.

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She can help you show you
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There are a lot of changes coming.

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It'd be a great time to call
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and review it.

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And by the way,

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if you are looking for group health
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I had a company call me out of Columbia,
Missouri last week.

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They were on, a very old Blue
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The premiums had gotten
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The policy was 20 years old, actually.

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Maria Ahlers helped them find something
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continued with great benefits.

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So they can help you once again,
the phone number (877)

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385-2224.

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Anywhere in the country,
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they can help you wherever you might be.
All right.

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Joining me in studio again today
Shannon Schneller.

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Welcome back.

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What are we in our fourth one now I think
yeah something like that okay.

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So Shannon Schneller is the CEO
and founder of Focus Hearing.

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They are the folks that

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I go to that, you know, got my hearing
aid straightened out.

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You know, they've done a great job for me
and for my wife Lauren

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also, in studio with me Len Randazzo.
Hey, Len.

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Good morning.

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So this man is usually the man
that handles everything here at Cumulus.

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He is our rep does a great job.

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But I'm driving down the, the road on a
Saturday after Shannon’s last show aired.

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And he calls me up and he goes,

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are those guys really,
really that good at what they do?

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And I went on to tell him, yeah,
that and a bag of chips, actually,

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if you want to know.

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Well, he went to Shannon.

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I'm going to have him
talk about his experience

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so you can see what it was like
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and the difference he had between that
and the other people he was working with.

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And then we've got a really special guest
after that.

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Our producer, Dave Thiessen, is going to
sneak out from behind the cameras today.

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You're actually going to see who he is,
and he's going to talk

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about what
his experience and Focus Hearing was.

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So you'll get to hear
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that have actually been there and done
what needs to get done.

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But let's

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let's just start by talking about what
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than what I call the conglom-o,

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or the national firms
or the franchise firms or whatever.

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And it's certainly different
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when people are going to order
a hearing aid.

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I always find that amusing
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how do they know what you're hearing
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if they can't test you until you order
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So, so so let's just start with
about what you guys do,

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what you offer, and then how you interface
with various insurance programs.

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Shannon.

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So I mean state guidelines,
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our industry,
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feel that going above and beyond
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What makes us different.

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And the individual plan of the person
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because not everybody is the same.

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You can have ten people
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and that hearing aid
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So there's a little bit of art,
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And we just believe in doing what's best
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that you're getting a new hearing aid
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And that's really funny
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I'm wearing, okay, when I first came
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You did convince me
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I only had one for one ear
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But, they weren't working right,
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straightened out, and I couldn't get, it’s
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I couldn't get it to work.
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You guys did the whole thing.

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And I have been back on several occasions
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And did the walk in, walked
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your folks at the front desk were right
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Took care of the problem.

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I got back out in like ten minutes.

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In the past, you know,
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you'd have to get an appointment
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Meanwhile this isn’t working
and I can't hear and I'm going nuts, okay.

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Because I've become
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because they make such a difference for me
that without them I'm like, I'm lost.

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I mean, it's, you know,
it's like they can't see.

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Yeah, I can see,
but I can't hear and it drives me nuts.

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Or, you know, I'll forget.

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I'll walk out of the house
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the road from my house, and I'm
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Oh, God, I forgot the hearing aids. You.
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Go back.

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Yeah, I and I do,
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So the first time you told me this,
I was completely shocked.

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78% of the people in this country
don't treat hearing loss.

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The 12 we got, we've got like 12% of
the people that are actually treating it.

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And the rest of the people
letting it go untreated.

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So talk about
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because there are so many issues
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If you don't take care of it,
let's just talk about that a little bit.

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Well, I just think about my patients.

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What I see in front of me,
the degrees of hearing loss

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is what's really can set
the tone for your experience.

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It's always so much

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easier to adjust to a hearing aid
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hearing loss, because you're not having
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If you can catch it earlier,
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just is so much easier for the patient.

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And it kind of goes back to, you know,
ten hearing losses that look the same.

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But those hearing aids
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It's about your preference
about your tolerance.

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It's also in the booth
what is your best case scenario.

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Because that's not the same for everybody.

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And so it's important for us to set
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about what we can do for you
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And I think that's what's fair for me to
inform the patient, look, I can do this.

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I know you want me to be able to do this,
but that's just not in the bag for you.

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And because the nature of the beast.

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We waited too long.

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Stop right there.

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We waited too long. Right. Okay.

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I didn't wait too long,
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sets of hearing aids
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before I finally found you
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And now, you know, I've.

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My hearing is great.

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I mean, I could sit in a restaurant,

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if I really want to,
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Don't do that, folks.

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It's annoying. But I'm just saying..

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The hearing has made
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So waiting is not a good thing, right?

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I mean, let's say you come in
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just not quite ready, and then you wait 4
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You come back, your audiogram, the graph,
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might look the same.

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You're hearing has not changed
the response.

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Your ability to process and understand
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typically changes and degrades,

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and that even translates over
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So when those neurological pathways
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stimulated, that ability to understand
that speech processing is what degrades.

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And that's
what a lot of patients don't realize, that

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we waited too long.

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And I can only take you to 80%
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That 20% is gone forever.

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And that's just a fair expectation.

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I don't want to promise the moon
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And maybe that's,
a big part of why patients respond to us.

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Because we're not going to make promises
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Yeah, but conversely,
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it's going to keep degrading.

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I remember this, Laurie being told this

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because she was the first one
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The longer that you wait, the more
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to get you back to any level,
because it's going to continue to degrade.

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Just like if you have a broken arm
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you're not going to get your full range
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So it's it's
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Get in your PT.
Get your arm back. Don't wait.

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Same thing,
but you have to teat it like that.

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Very similar. Yeah.

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And that's a great analogy
that there's something you can see

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and you know,
this is something you can't see.

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And it's gradual, okay.

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But people around you are going to notice
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And that's typically
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Is that the nature of hearing loss

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is that it's so slow and gradual
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So you're walking around
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but your loved ones are complaining.
You're not. You're not at normal.

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So that's the case.
So it does make a difference, folks.

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If you want some help,
if you want an evaluation,

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if you just want to know where you're at,
here's what you need to do.

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Give them a call (913) 754-2144.

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They've got two locations easy to get to.

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If you want help,
they can do it or go to the website.

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MyFocusHearing.com.

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MyFocusHearing.com.

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When we come back from the break.

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We're going to talk
a little more about this.

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And we're going to talk about how it ties
into cognitive decline.

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And for all of us out there
that are chronologically challenged

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that's a real issue.

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Stay tuned.
We'll be right back after the break.

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Also, you know, if you want to help,
maybe you've got a husband.

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It's too stubborn
to go get the hearing test.

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And you're telling the guy, look,

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you're not hearing
what I'm telling you, or turn the clothes.

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Maybe
we get rid of the closed caption on TV.

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If you actually got your hearing checked
and got a hearing aid.

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Well, I would suggest you have him
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or on the YouTube channel

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so he can actually understand
what we're talking about and why.

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If you don't do something about this,
it gets progressively worse.

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That's the point. Okay.

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So if you want an evaluation,
it costs nothing to go in

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and sit down with Shannon and her folks
and let her tell you what the problem is.

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And here's what the solutions are.

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You can do that by calling (913)

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754-2144.

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They've got two locations
you can easily get to them.

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The website MyFocusHearing.com
MyFocusHearing.com.

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This isn't conglom-o franchise.

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You know some nationally advertised.

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These are local folks
right here in our community

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that know what they're doing
and do it very well.

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So let's get to this cognitive
decline thing because this is an issue,

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you know,
if you're a seasoned citizen okay.

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Which you're not.

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But there's two of us in here

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actually three because we're going
to bring Dave up behind the microphone.

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If this is something you think about okay
I mean I take a supplement.

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Okay.

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And I do it every night
specifically developed for cognitive.

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To enhance cognitive and not

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face cognitive decline.

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I've got two companies, one I own and one
I own part of that I'm, you know, I'm

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76 years old, and I'm as busy as I've ever

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been, so that's important to me.

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Now, you talk about this hearing thing.
Okay.

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So you here, you've you're a lot of people
working past 65, 70 now a lot of people.

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Okay.

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And so what happens is
you don't pay attention to this.

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And then so what happens
from a cognitive standpoint.

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Well comes to the whole hearing system.

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It is truly I use it or lose it system.

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Repeat
that. It's a use it or lose it okay.

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So it's just like
you know when you talk about exercise.

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Get out. Exercise.

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Whatever, use it or lose it.

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Same deal, different day.

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Right.

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It's just about, you know,
what does your system look like?

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Can we reactivate it

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when you have untreated hearing loss?

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I don't know if you're aware of this,
but as of right now, untreated

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hearing loss, that's the number one
modifiable risk factor for dementia.

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Everything else.

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Is just that's the first time I've heard
that it's just a toss of the dice.

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The number one modifier.

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Modifiable Risk Factor.

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Meaning you can slow it down, stop it,
or do whatever you need to do if you.

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Yeah, that's
the only thing that you can control.

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While the studies up to this point,

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I know they're looking about diet
and other things, how that affects.

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But if you really think about the risks
of dementia and untreated hearing loss,

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and you can actually do something
about it, that's pretty powerful.

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Oh, yeah.

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You know,
and we all want to age well, I know I do.

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And if there's anything that I can do
to help that process slow down,

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I'm going to do the best I can
to make that happen.

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You know, I told this story before I was
standing in my, in Pasco, Washington.

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And in my, at my son in law's parents
farm, that big alfalfa farm

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and the grandkids are running around

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and Evelyn then the oldest was,
I think, four years old.

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And she came up to me
and she was talking to me,

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and I didn't hear a thing she was saying.

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And Sean, look, she goes, Cary, Cary,
Evelyn's trying to talk to you.

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And I'm like,

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there she was right at my legs,
standing there looking at me.

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Talk to me, I didn't hear.

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I said, you know what,
I got a problem here, right?

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I didn't hear her.

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Well, I got six grandkids, okay?

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And it's important that I,

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you know, that you can understand
them, hear what they're trying to say,

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interact with them.
Those are all critical things.

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So for me, that was the one that pushed it
over, that pushed the button.

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That was like, okay,
I gotta do something about this, right?

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Okay. Because I'm not interacting
with my family.

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The other thing that drove me nuts
was trying to watch a television

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show, not understand
what the hell they were saying.

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Yeah, and I got news for
you can't closed caption, Fox news.

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Okay. All right.

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Yeah, I don't bother with CNN. I'm
just telling you.

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Okay. Straight up.

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Okay.

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Or CNBC, you know, you're looking at
what's going on in the markets.

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You can close caption TV shows
but you can't or movies, but so

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being able to hear what people are saying
when you said not understanding people,

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I remember sitting at luncheon meetings,
business meetings one night in particular,

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I had with the folks over Blue Cross,
and we were at Jacks Stack Barbecue.

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There were four of these people
at lunch with me, and I'm asking people

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to repeat like two and three times
what the hell they're saying.

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It's noisy in there. I couldn't hear it.

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Now I go to the restaurant
setting on my phone.

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I push the button and they dials me in to
what the people that are sitting near

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me and I am not hearing, you know,
If you leave it on the regular sound,

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you're picking up sound from other tables,
but it works amazingly well.

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So you, as you said,
you can correct it, right?

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Yes, absolutely.

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And and stop dealing with the annoyance
of not understanding people.

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Well, you don't realize

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as time goes on the things that your body
has to do to accommodate hearing loss.

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Okay. You’re lip reading,
you don't even know you're doing it.

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That's just the body being the amazing
thing that it is to compensate.

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So you’re lip reading, you're leaning,
you're

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positioning yourself in certain areas
to give you the best fighting chance.

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And there just becomes like

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this mental and physical load
to pull this off on a daily basis.

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By the end of the day, there's a level of
exhaustion that doesn't need to be there.

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You know, if we can fix your hearing,

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then you're not having to mentally
and physically do all those things

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to cope with your hearing loss.

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It's just make it easier for you.

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Yeah, because that's it.

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And that's exactly what I used to do.

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In fact, I used to position most
until you convinced me to get the second

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hearing aid because I'm deaf on one side,
I had a brain tumor in ‘85.

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I lost the hearing over there.

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I was lucky that that's all I lost.

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And I would set
so that if I'm at a business

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meeting, the people I'm doing business
with are on this side of me.

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I don't want them on the other side

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because I couldn't hear a damn thing
they say right now, it doesn't matter.

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Because this, this piece that you got me
transmits sound from that ear over

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to this hearing aid that does a great job,
and I can hear what's going on.

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Boy, what a difference that made.

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And I even after I got the hearing aid,

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I remember
you said you don't really have to do this,

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but I'm telling you, I'm like,
okay, Shannon.

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I'm going to listen to you.

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And I did it like, oh, Lord have mercy.

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This really works. Yeah. It's not
you don't have a blind spot.

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Your echolocation is back. Yeah.

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You can tell here
sounds are coming from. Yeah. Yes.

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It just made a huge difference. Right.

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So that's really interesting.

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I had no idea that it played
this big a role in cog.

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I mean, I knew it was important
in cognitive decline right here,

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that that's the one factor
that can turn that to a certain degree.

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I'd say that's pretty important.

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Well, and you partner that with, you know,
if you're not hearing

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and then you start to withdraw
and then you don't, you're not hanging out

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with your family and, you know,
your relationship starts to degrade.

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You're just not doing
the things that you usually do.

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And then you start to isolate.

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And then the isolation is where
that cognitive factor comes in.

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It's like when you're not

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engaging with your

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family and your relationships,
that's when things start to slow down.

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And that's the concern.

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And then that causes friction
in the family and a whole bunch of things.

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And again,

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you know, like I said,
there are a lot of us that are working

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past retirement age of 65, 64,
whatever it is, if you're doing that

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and you can't function in the business
environment,

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you're dealing with people
a lot younger than you are.

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They're kind of looking at you like,
what's the matter with you?

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You know, it's it's not a good thing.

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So it makes sense, you know, to find out.

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Now, take the time and find out, okay.

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It's simple enough to do.

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You can call (913) 754-2144,

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make an appointment, go in and see Shannon
or one of her techs.

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They'll be happy to take you
through the process or go to the website.

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My focus here. Income.

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We come back from the break
Len Randazzo's going to tells his story,

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and then we're going to drag

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Dave Thiessen out from behind the cameras
and he's going to tell us his story.

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So stay tuned.
We'll be right back after the break.

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You're listening to America's
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Welcome back.

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You're listening to America's
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Speaking of which,
I want to do a shout out to 98.7FM

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in WBFD in Bedford, Pennsylvania.

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They're one of our newest affiliates.

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Happy to have you folks on board.

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And listening to America's Healthcare
Advocate here as part of our America's

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So hello to everybody in Bedford,
Pennsylvania.

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In studio with me again,
Shannon Schneller from Focus Hearing.

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She's the CEO and the founder,
my producers, Mr..

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Dave Thiessen behind the cameras,
who will not be behind the cameras

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a little later on today.

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And Garner Cowdrey here
of behind the microphones in our Cumulus

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studios, our flagship studios
here in Overland Park Kansas.

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All right.
So now we're going to switch to Len.

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And this is a funny story
because like I said,

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I think I'm coming back from Bible study
because we're on at 8:00 and,

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but and I, we start at seven
and we don't usually get out to 830 or 9.

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And I get this phone call from Len
and he goes, I just listened to that show.

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And are they really that good, Cary?

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Take it. Len.

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Yes, I was really impressed
with the information

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that you were explaining and,
and how you service people.

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And when I called Cary,
I was really impressed with the demeanor

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and also the focus that you have on

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setting up people correctly.

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And I could tell just from that show
that there was passion in what you do.

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When I called after talking to Cary,

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I spoke to your gal at the front desk,
and she was equally as helpful.

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And then when I walked in to talk
with you, I just felt a total difference.

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The place that I was at, as you aptly
said, conglom-o.

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It was a factory.

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You know, they had rooms like

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and they just whipping you in
and whipping you out of there.

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And no matter how many questions I had
and I went through two,

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this is now
my second set with this company,

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and I was very frustrated
because I was like,

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these are expensive propositions,
you know, $5,000.

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$2,500 apiece, you know.

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And I was feeling

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like I should be able
to demo multiple things.

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And then you guys can hone
in, you know, the technology is amazing.

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And I am very happy
about how the app works.

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And viewing things that way.

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And the other one that I had previous

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had a better app,
but this one was a little bit different.

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My hearing pattern
is a lot different than most

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because being around radio
so much, listening to things at decibels

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that probably most people don't do,
and I'm sure I've done some damage.

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So the highs and the lows for me are very
different than most people's problems.

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And then on top of that, I have tinnitus.

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And so the ringing in the ears.

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So it's just another level of,
you know, factoring things in.

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And when I came in
you explained what you said before

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about where you can possibly get me to,

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but it was more about how can I help you?

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And that's what made me feel great.

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And then you also said
something to the effect of,

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did you ever have a background test?

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And that just blew me away.

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I didn't know what you were talking about.

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00:22:26,278 --> 00:22:28,213
So explain the background test.

464
00:22:28,213 --> 00:22:28,814
Right?

465
00:22:28,814 --> 00:22:32,017
Well, and that's one thing that we did
as a practice,

466
00:22:32,017 --> 00:22:35,087
just believe is very, very important
because when we're testing in the booth,

467
00:22:35,420 --> 00:22:37,389
we want to know
what is your best case scenario.

468
00:22:37,389 --> 00:22:39,491
But that's in a booth in quiet.

469
00:22:39,491 --> 00:22:40,926
That is not the same

470
00:22:40,926 --> 00:22:44,463
and does not translate over
to how you hear when you're in a crowd.

471
00:22:44,763 --> 00:22:48,433
So if you don't test for that,
the provider is literally guessing and

472
00:22:49,334 --> 00:22:52,337
majority of the time it's not even close
to what you think it would be,

473
00:22:52,704 --> 00:22:54,473
because you can have somebody
that's great in the booth.

474
00:22:54,473 --> 00:22:56,208
And yes,
they have a moderate hearing loss.

475
00:22:56,208 --> 00:22:59,211
You put them in background noise
and somebody just completely falls apart.

476
00:22:59,444 --> 00:23:00,078
Yeah.

477
00:23:00,078 --> 00:23:02,948
And if you're not prepared for that
and I don't prepare you for that,

478
00:23:02,948 --> 00:23:04,616
you're thinking,
I just spent all this money

479
00:23:04,616 --> 00:23:07,853
and I still
I'm still not hearing in this restaurant.

480
00:23:08,453 --> 00:23:08,820
You know.

481
00:23:08,820 --> 00:23:11,890
And when you came to me,
you have great hearing aids.

482
00:23:11,923 --> 00:23:14,025
They're like one and a half,
two years old.

483
00:23:14,025 --> 00:23:16,962
This wasn't necessarily about you
and I needing to discuss you needing

484
00:23:16,962 --> 00:23:17,629
new hearing aids.

485
00:23:17,629 --> 00:23:20,699
We just needed to fix what you have
and maximize what you could and

486
00:23:20,699 --> 00:23:21,666
couldn't do. And,

487
00:23:22,768 --> 00:23:25,303
and in your case, it just we just

488
00:23:25,303 --> 00:23:28,407
manipulated what you already had built on
what the professionals did before me.

489
00:23:28,473 --> 00:23:31,042
Right. And just changed a few things,
tweaked a few things.

490
00:23:31,042 --> 00:23:32,844
Just based on what you told me
you liked, what

491
00:23:32,844 --> 00:23:34,880
you didn't like, what you're struggling
with. Right.

492
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,983
So I had been through several adjustments

493
00:23:37,983 --> 00:23:42,320
with the other firm,
and what was different was

494
00:23:42,821 --> 00:23:46,625
they just did the manual things
that, based on what I told them,

495
00:23:46,758 --> 00:23:51,096
for example, like with my wife,
was in the kitchen and she opened tinfoil.

496
00:23:51,563 --> 00:23:54,366
Oh, that would send me through the roof.

497
00:23:54,366 --> 00:23:58,236
It was just, you know,
and if I didn't have my hearing aids

498
00:23:58,236 --> 00:24:01,239
in, it would not have had that effect.

499
00:24:01,406 --> 00:24:06,278
So it was having these day to day
things that are in our life

500
00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:12,017
that you have to put up with or do
that were not the same.

501
00:24:12,083 --> 00:24:14,820
So I was trying to explain
those things to them,

502
00:24:14,820 --> 00:24:18,390
and then they just did
what the mechanical things to do.

503
00:24:18,757 --> 00:24:21,793
When we sat down,
and you went through those things with me,

504
00:24:21,793 --> 00:24:25,997
you asked all of those type of things,
and I felt so much different.

505
00:24:25,997 --> 00:24:31,102
I felt like I had somebody
that was more of a qualifier

506
00:24:31,203 --> 00:24:34,439
and more of a, you know, saying, this is

507
00:24:35,941 --> 00:24:37,008
how we can help this.

508
00:24:37,008 --> 00:24:40,645
And and maybe we couldn't do this,
but how we can get to you

509
00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:44,850
having a better quality
of interpreting things,

510
00:24:44,850 --> 00:24:47,853
like you said before,
which I thought was fascinating.

511
00:24:48,253 --> 00:24:51,056
I didn't realize how how the human brain

512
00:24:51,056 --> 00:24:54,693
has to be conditioned itself
when hearing loss happens.

513
00:24:54,926 --> 00:24:56,161
Tell me more again.

514
00:24:56,161 --> 00:24:58,930
So what you were mentioning
is it's very common,

515
00:24:58,930 --> 00:25:01,933
especially for a patient
that has high frequency hearing loss.

516
00:25:01,967 --> 00:25:06,004
Those that part of your hearing system
is not used to being stimulated.

517
00:25:06,004 --> 00:25:07,339
So then all of a sudden you're hearing aid

518
00:25:07,339 --> 00:25:11,209
is giving you this audibility for sounds
you're not used to hearing.

519
00:25:11,476 --> 00:25:12,677
Dishes banging and clanging.

520
00:25:12,677 --> 00:25:14,112
You flush the toilet, you know, ice

521
00:25:14,112 --> 00:25:17,215
cube machine, all those high frequency
sounds you're not used to hearing.

522
00:25:17,883 --> 00:25:19,885
Your ear is very sensitive to that.

523
00:25:19,885 --> 00:25:22,587
And so if I just correct you all at once

524
00:25:22,587 --> 00:25:25,457
and then you're having to get used to it,
you don't want to wear them,

525
00:25:25,457 --> 00:25:27,025
you're going to take them out,
put them in the drawer.

526
00:25:27,025 --> 00:25:27,792
Yeah.

527
00:25:27,792 --> 00:25:30,695
It's more about
let's introduce you to sound.

528
00:25:30,695 --> 00:25:33,498
Where you’re comfortable? Let's tweak it.
Is that too much?

529
00:25:33,498 --> 00:25:34,833
Okay, let's go back down.

530
00:25:34,833 --> 00:25:36,067
Let's have you wear it there.

531
00:25:36,067 --> 00:25:37,702
Get used to that.

532
00:25:37,702 --> 00:25:41,206
And then as you acclimate,
then I'll bump you a little bit next time

533
00:25:41,206 --> 00:25:42,807
instead of just taking this huge jump.

534
00:25:42,807 --> 00:25:43,975
You just can't tolerate it.

535
00:25:43,975 --> 00:25:49,047
Yeah, I feel so much better
after walking out of our visit.

536
00:25:49,047 --> 00:25:54,219
After the tweaking that you did compared
to the four and five visits that I had had

537
00:25:54,219 --> 00:25:58,890
that I was still in, in my opinion,
la la land, was that so?

538
00:25:58,890 --> 00:25:59,958
It really,

539
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,563
you know, puts the emphasis on,

540
00:26:04,729 --> 00:26:08,500
and I got it in the title of your business
“Focus Hearing”.

541
00:26:08,533 --> 00:26:11,269
I mean, you know, it's perfectly said.

542
00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:12,671
We’re going to have to use that line
somewhere, Len.

543
00:26:12,671 --> 00:26:15,674
It's really pretty good.

544
00:26:15,941 --> 00:26:18,944
You know, it's funny because, you know,

545
00:26:20,011 --> 00:26:21,179
customer service.

546
00:26:21,179 --> 00:26:26,484
I say, in this country, the word service
has gone out of customer service.

547
00:26:26,518 --> 00:26:28,219
I'll give you another example.

548
00:26:28,219 --> 00:26:30,255
I have, a sleep apnea machine.

549
00:26:30,255 --> 00:26:31,656
I have one that I travel with.

550
00:26:31,656 --> 00:26:33,959
I travel
if I don't travel with it on vacation,

551
00:26:33,959 --> 00:26:36,328
you know, Laurie spends
most of the nights awake.

552
00:26:36,328 --> 00:26:37,963
So obviously I travel with it.

553
00:26:37,963 --> 00:26:39,631
I needed a new mask.

554
00:26:39,631 --> 00:26:41,433
I reached out to the company.

555
00:26:41,433 --> 00:26:44,069
You can only do it online.

556
00:26:44,069 --> 00:26:47,105
Made eight phone calls in two days.

557
00:26:47,439 --> 00:26:51,276
Spent over three hours
trying to get something done.

558
00:26:51,776 --> 00:26:54,212
Finally the people were nice enough.

559
00:26:54,212 --> 00:26:58,617
Finally the owner of the company called me
back, was responsive, got it done.

560
00:26:58,850 --> 00:27:01,853
But my point in telling that story is

561
00:27:01,953 --> 00:27:05,523
there's no damn service
in customer service and you can go spend.

562
00:27:05,857 --> 00:27:08,793
He spent the same amount of money
I did these these hearing aids,

563
00:27:08,793 --> 00:27:12,797
although I got a nice discount because I'm
I have Blue Cross and Blue Shield

564
00:27:12,964 --> 00:27:16,101
and they have Blue 365
with discount programs.

565
00:27:16,101 --> 00:27:20,271
And by the way, they take all
the insurance products Medicare Advantage.

566
00:27:20,438 --> 00:27:25,276
If you have an allocation on your Medicare
Advantage plan, they take it.

567
00:27:25,276 --> 00:27:29,247
And also they accept the discounts
from Blue Cross and other carriers

568
00:27:29,447 --> 00:27:30,915
to to reduce the cost.

569
00:27:30,915 --> 00:27:32,851
But it was the same thing.

570
00:27:32,851 --> 00:27:33,885
But they weren't working

571
00:27:34,953 --> 00:27:36,621
and I was pulling my hair out.

572
00:27:36,621 --> 00:27:38,223
Same thing as Len. Okay.

573
00:27:38,223 --> 00:27:41,559
So to me,
that customer service piece, that's

574
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,830
if that's not as important,
maybe it's more important for me.

575
00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:47,899
I would wholeheartedly agree with that.

576
00:27:47,899 --> 00:27:50,902
Hearing aids, especially with Bluetooth,

577
00:27:51,903 --> 00:27:55,840
connectivity, the streaming,
there are things that are going to come up

578
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,277
and it's it's just a service
based product.

579
00:27:59,310 --> 00:28:01,746
It's not like I'm just going to fit you
with the hearing aid. Oh good luck.

580
00:28:01,746 --> 00:28:04,549
I'll see you in a couple of years.
You know, you need cleaning.

581
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:05,350
You need support.

582
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:06,484
You need Bluetooth support.

583
00:28:06,484 --> 00:28:08,553
You need all those little things.

584
00:28:08,553 --> 00:28:10,255
I don't want you waiting two weeks.

585
00:28:10,255 --> 00:28:12,257
I can't do it To see me. Well,
that's what I was saying before..

586
00:28:12,257 --> 00:28:14,492
If that's something that my tech's up
front can just.

587
00:28:14,492 --> 00:28:15,660
Oh my gosh.

588
00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:17,696
Yeah. You're, da da da,
10 seconds later, you're on your way.

589
00:28:18,663 --> 00:28:20,098
And that's
what we're very passionate about.

590
00:28:20,098 --> 00:28:22,600
And I know we have our set walk in hours
between 10 and 3.

591
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,603
And that's just because we feel it's
very important to staff enough

592
00:28:26,171 --> 00:28:28,206
to handle the traffic.

593
00:28:28,206 --> 00:28:31,176
Yeah, but the point is, and Len,
I think you’ll agree.

594
00:28:31,176 --> 00:28:35,313
I could never get into the other,
you know, I had to make it.

595
00:28:35,313 --> 00:28:37,682
I couldn't walk in. Oh, there open at 10.

596
00:28:37,682 --> 00:28:41,519
I'm going to be there at 10:15, walk
in, get my problem solved 15 minutes later

597
00:28:41,553 --> 00:28:42,687
out the door and I'm done.

598
00:28:42,687 --> 00:28:43,054
Okay.

599
00:28:43,054 --> 00:28:46,758
That to me was an enormous difference
that you have walk

600
00:28:46,758 --> 00:28:49,861
in, you can walk in, you can get service
in, you walk out.

601
00:28:49,861 --> 00:28:52,831
Yeah. You can make an appointment
if you need an evaluation, whatever.

602
00:28:52,831 --> 00:28:55,867
But the fact that you've got that
and that those girls up front

603
00:28:56,101 --> 00:29:00,071
know how to do all of that stuff
to fix these things, adjust these things.

604
00:29:00,071 --> 00:29:03,074
To me, that's half the battle.

605
00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:04,976
I know you can.
You can have the damn equitment. Right?

606
00:29:04,976 --> 00:29:08,046
But if you don't know how to make it work,
it doesn't do you a lot of good, right?

607
00:29:08,046 --> 00:29:10,181
Or you leave on vacation
and your hearing aid just died. Yeah.

608
00:29:10,181 --> 00:29:12,150
And you need a new wire. Yeah.

609
00:29:12,150 --> 00:29:13,151
You can't get it for two weeks.

610
00:29:13,151 --> 00:29:17,355
It's it's an amazing thing
because the equipment is the same across

611
00:29:17,355 --> 00:29:18,990
every company you're going to do.

612
00:29:18,990 --> 00:29:20,792
I mean, there's little differences here
and there differences.

613
00:29:20,792 --> 00:29:22,627
The difference is the service.

614
00:29:22,627 --> 00:29:25,063
The difference is the service. And that’s
what I’m so excited about.

615
00:29:25,063 --> 00:29:26,464
You heard it from Len.

616
00:29:26,464 --> 00:29:28,700
And that's absolutely correct.
And that's it.

617
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:30,301
The difference is the service.

618
00:29:30,301 --> 00:29:36,207
And so if you want that service (913)
754-2144 you've got a set of hearing aids.

619
00:29:36,207 --> 00:29:39,210
They're not working.
Go in and talk to them.

620
00:29:39,511 --> 00:29:42,046
They'll help you fix it.
If you need new ones.

621
00:29:42,046 --> 00:29:44,783
They'll tell you that
if you don't Len didn't need new ones.

622
00:29:44,783 --> 00:29:46,684
He needed the ones he had fixed.

623
00:29:46,684 --> 00:29:47,685
Go in and see them.

624
00:29:47,685 --> 00:29:48,586
They're happy to do it.

625
00:29:48,586 --> 00:29:49,888
Or the website.

626
00:29:49,888 --> 00:29:53,124
MyFocusHearing.com. MyFocusHearing.com.

627
00:29:53,124 --> 00:29:53,792
Stay tuned.

628
00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:54,526
We're right back.

629
00:29:54,526 --> 00:29:58,163
After the break we're going to bring
Dave Thiessen out from behind the cameras.

630
00:29:58,163 --> 00:29:59,164
Get ready for this.

631
00:30:05,970 --> 00:30:06,704
Welcome back.

632
00:30:06,704 --> 00:30:10,775
You're listening to America's Healthcare
Advocate show broadcasting coast to coast

633
00:30:10,775 --> 00:30:14,012
across the USA here on the HIA
Radio Network.

634
00:30:14,012 --> 00:30:16,781
Once again,
we're on all those podcast platforms.

635
00:30:16,781 --> 00:30:18,583
We're up on our own YouTube platform.

636
00:30:18,583 --> 00:30:20,451
You want to tell somebody about this show?

637
00:30:20,451 --> 00:30:21,319
Maybe it's a spouse.

638
00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:23,388
Maybe, hey, maybe it's your grandfather

639
00:30:23,388 --> 00:30:26,791
or your father or your uncle,
you know, have them go listen to it.

640
00:30:26,925 --> 00:30:28,593
They'll learn why they need

641
00:30:28,593 --> 00:30:32,530
to do something about this before
it gets to be significantly worse.

642
00:30:32,730 --> 00:30:36,968
It's the folks are at Focus Hearing,
and they really do a wonderful job.

643
00:30:36,968 --> 00:30:39,504
Shannon Schneller is the CEO,
the president, the founder.

644
00:30:39,504 --> 00:30:41,239
She's sitting here in studio with me.

645
00:30:41,239 --> 00:30:45,243
The phone number there is (913) 754 2144,

646
00:30:45,243 --> 00:30:49,547
(913) 754-2144 for the website.

647
00:30:49,547 --> 00:30:52,550
MyFocusHearing.com. There
the best in town.

648
00:30:52,550 --> 00:30:54,085
I know because I use them.

649
00:30:54,085 --> 00:30:56,120
All right Dave. We actually got him out.

650
00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:00,325
So to the whole lot this is Dave
and you've never seen him before.

651
00:31:00,692 --> 00:31:01,893
No you have not.

652
00:31:01,893 --> 00:31:02,961
There you go. See.

653
00:31:02,961 --> 00:31:06,531
And so Dave you went in for an evaluation.

654
00:31:06,531 --> 00:31:08,733
What was your experience like.

655
00:31:08,733 --> 00:31:10,768
What did you think of
what you experienced?

656
00:31:10,768 --> 00:31:13,771
Well, first of all,
I don't always listen to your show

657
00:31:13,771 --> 00:31:15,640
while I'm recording your show.

658
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,011
But once I listen back, I hear
all the details and I edit the sound.

659
00:31:20,411 --> 00:31:22,814
And, you know,
I'd been noticing some issues.

660
00:31:22,814 --> 00:31:25,216
So it was like,
well, I'm, I'm going to go in.

661
00:31:25,216 --> 00:31:27,352
And finally,
you know, there's a connection.

662
00:31:27,352 --> 00:31:31,022
There's somebody that I think
I can believe in what they say.

663
00:31:31,022 --> 00:31:35,193
And they're not just, you know,
selling some sort of 1940s technology.

664
00:31:35,660 --> 00:31:37,829
And I kind of have a high standard,
I think,

665
00:31:37,829 --> 00:31:40,632
I mean, I've been in the audio business
for a long time.

666
00:31:40,632 --> 00:31:43,268
But even before video. So coming in,

667
00:31:44,335 --> 00:31:46,604
it was a pleasant experience.

668
00:31:46,604 --> 00:31:49,207
You've got a very nice staff.

669
00:31:49,207 --> 00:31:52,210
I immediately felt

670
00:31:52,844 --> 00:31:57,081
once talking to you that you understood
what I was talking about

671
00:31:57,081 --> 00:32:00,618
and what I would need, and we went in
for the test in the actual booth.

672
00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:03,988
And I know what an acoustically,

673
00:32:03,988 --> 00:32:06,991
you know, quiet booth
sounds like and, that did.

674
00:32:08,192 --> 00:32:11,162
And kind of understanding
that what you put everybody through

675
00:32:11,162 --> 00:32:12,630
is fascinating to me.

676
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:16,034
But I see why you're successful

677
00:32:16,234 --> 00:32:18,469
because you were very thorough
and how you went through it.

678
00:32:18,469 --> 00:32:21,572
You listened,
you understood what I was talking about,

679
00:32:21,673 --> 00:32:24,676
and then you know
about all of the different

680
00:32:24,742 --> 00:32:28,046
possibilities
and options, insurance plans and whatnot.

681
00:32:28,046 --> 00:32:31,049
So it was a wonderful experience.

682
00:32:31,282 --> 00:32:32,984
I think that

683
00:32:32,984 --> 00:32:34,352
I'm ready to make that decision.

684
00:32:34,352 --> 00:32:36,054
I still haven’t pulled the trigger on it.

685
00:32:36,054 --> 00:32:40,224
And when I do, Cary's going to be mad
at me because I'll be able to run

686
00:32:40,224 --> 00:32:44,462
all of the gear really fast
and on my phone.

687
00:32:44,462 --> 00:32:46,764
And, Cary did you know it could do this?

688
00:32:46,764 --> 00:32:48,766
How long have you been doing radio?

689
00:32:48,766 --> 00:32:51,903
And I'm trying to do
here's create a perspective of people.

690
00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:55,606
Dave listens to
things a lot different than you and I do

691
00:32:55,606 --> 00:32:59,310
because he produces all of these shows
he and Garner together

692
00:33:00,311 --> 00:33:05,216
produce all these shows and understanding
the levels, how they sound, everything.

693
00:33:05,416 --> 00:33:06,351
How long you've been doing this?

694
00:33:06,351 --> 00:33:09,354
At 14, I was a DJ.

695
00:33:09,954 --> 00:33:13,891
I worked continuously in radio
for 35 years.

696
00:33:14,292 --> 00:33:19,831
And during that time I’ve mixed, many
commercials for radio, even national ones.

697
00:33:19,831 --> 00:33:23,401
And then I've done, audio for film.

698
00:33:23,568 --> 00:33:27,405
I mean, I've always been able to listen
through deeper

699
00:33:27,772 --> 00:33:29,941
into music mixes and that sort of thing.

700
00:33:29,941 --> 00:33:35,480
So when I started noticing issues,
it was like, oh, this is bad,

701
00:33:35,847 --> 00:33:38,583
and I don't think I will be anywhere

702
00:33:38,583 --> 00:33:41,886
near satisfied unless I think I'm getting.

703
00:33:42,286 --> 00:33:44,655
I mean, I already know what it's supposed
to sound like.

704
00:33:44,655 --> 00:33:47,692
A lot of people really don't pay
attention to that, but I do.

705
00:33:47,692 --> 00:33:52,163
I know that the timbre,
I know the various, depths of sound

706
00:33:52,163 --> 00:33:55,166
and placement of where voices are
and that stuff is

707
00:33:55,366 --> 00:33:58,569
it's always been aware to me
much deeper than the average person.

708
00:33:58,569 --> 00:34:03,508
So, I'm kind of, you know,
thinking that I want something is going

709
00:34:03,508 --> 00:34:07,412
to solve as many of those problems
as, as possible as it can do.

710
00:34:07,645 --> 00:34:09,781
I just, I just remember you coming in and,

711
00:34:11,549 --> 00:34:13,217
our conversation, I could tell.

712
00:34:13,217 --> 00:34:17,121
And I just hope everyone understands
that I'm not just.

713
00:34:17,255 --> 00:34:19,023
I'm not a pressure person.

714
00:34:19,023 --> 00:34:20,792
Like, this is where we're at.

715
00:34:20,792 --> 00:34:23,161
You're telling me what issues
you're noticing.

716
00:34:23,161 --> 00:34:26,831
They probably all correlate
to where you're hearing loss is,

717
00:34:28,666 --> 00:34:30,968
you know,
tell me about the impact that has.

718
00:34:30,968 --> 00:34:32,770
Are you ready?

719
00:34:32,770 --> 00:34:34,972
And if you're not,
we have that conversation too.

720
00:34:34,972 --> 00:34:38,643
Yes. There are risks to not proceeding,
but I'm not going to beat you down.

721
00:34:39,143 --> 00:34:41,712
You know, a reluctant patient
doesn't make a good patient.

722
00:34:41,712 --> 00:34:42,680
So, I.

723
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,250
Remember the first show you did with us,
like, a year or two back.

724
00:34:47,752 --> 00:34:50,755
And some of the things
you were saying at that time,

725
00:34:50,888 --> 00:34:52,790
I was thinking to myself,

726
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:57,061
when I'm facing forward,
if my wife turns her head and faces back,

727
00:34:57,061 --> 00:35:00,264
I can't hear a word she says,
and she thinks I'm ignoring her.

728
00:35:00,298 --> 00:35:00,865
Of course.

729
00:35:00,865 --> 00:35:02,967
And you had pretty much laid that out.

730
00:35:02,967 --> 00:35:05,837
And I'm like, wow,
that's validation for what's going on.

731
00:35:05,837 --> 00:35:08,072
So very helpful in that area.

732
00:35:08,072 --> 00:35:09,907
You know just the practical

733
00:35:09,907 --> 00:35:13,044
condition that you're in
when you've got a hearing issue.

734
00:35:13,311 --> 00:35:14,679
You're in the sound and mixing.

735
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:19,183
So when I have a patient, you give me
what their issues are in my mind.

736
00:35:19,183 --> 00:35:21,185
I can usually tell
what we're going to be dealing with

737
00:35:21,185 --> 00:35:23,087
just because I know
where all those sounds occur.

738
00:35:23,087 --> 00:35:24,255
Yeah. Similar to you.

739
00:35:24,255 --> 00:35:26,891
And I had family members that my wife's

740
00:35:27,892 --> 00:35:28,392
got many

741
00:35:28,392 --> 00:35:31,395
aunts, uncles and her mother,
they're in their 80s

742
00:35:31,496 --> 00:35:35,666
and they're all in different places, but
they've all got some issue to deal with.

743
00:35:35,666 --> 00:35:39,170
And you hear it from that side of it.

744
00:35:39,170 --> 00:35:40,738
And they don't have a good experience.

745
00:35:40,738 --> 00:35:43,040
They don't live here locally,

746
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,743
but they don't have a good experience
finding the right solution.

747
00:35:45,743 --> 00:35:49,680
They have many complaints about devices,
about people in that situation.

748
00:35:49,847 --> 00:35:51,949
Firts of all they bought them off
television, some of them pretty much okay.

749
00:35:51,949 --> 00:35:53,351
And that's that's one of the dumbest.

750
00:35:53,351 --> 00:35:56,354
I'm sorry, folks, that's
one of the dumbest damn things you can do.

751
00:35:56,387 --> 00:35:58,256
I tell you the same thing about Medicare.

752
00:35:58,256 --> 00:35:59,290
I'll tell you the same thing

753
00:35:59,290 --> 00:36:03,194
about these about hearing devices
at that one size does not fit all.

754
00:36:03,361 --> 00:36:06,664
And you've heard two examples
of that today and I'm the 3rd example.

755
00:36:06,697 --> 00:36:11,302
Am I right now that you can't get a size
44 overcoat to fit everybody?

756
00:36:11,435 --> 00:36:12,837
Okay. It's just that simple.

757
00:36:12,837 --> 00:36:15,840
And these things are tailored
to the individual.

758
00:36:16,340 --> 00:36:18,643
Dave’s
got a much different sense of what hearing

759
00:36:18,643 --> 00:36:21,646
should be
then what Len had, than what I had.

760
00:36:21,879 --> 00:36:27,652
All of us went to Shannon, she recognizes
each of us as different, and each of us

761
00:36:27,652 --> 00:36:30,788
is being treated differently,
and that is what's important.

762
00:36:30,888 --> 00:36:34,825
Well, behind what I do, you have
to balance the science and the art. Yes.

763
00:36:34,825 --> 00:36:37,195
You have you hearing loss,
is where we're at, these are our targets.

764
00:36:37,195 --> 00:36:38,996
This is where I want you to be.

765
00:36:38,996 --> 00:36:41,699
But, can you walk around every day
wearing it like that.

766
00:36:41,699 --> 00:36:44,702
Probably not the first 30 to 60 days.

767
00:36:44,802 --> 00:36:46,170
I'm just not going to do that to you.

768
00:36:46,170 --> 00:36:48,206
I want you to be successful
in the long term,

769
00:36:48,206 --> 00:36:51,142
and that's going to be comfort
while you adjust.

770
00:36:51,142 --> 00:36:52,977
And everybody's pace is different.

771
00:36:52,977 --> 00:36:56,180
But I just want to keep maximizing
as we can as you tolerate.

772
00:36:56,180 --> 00:36:57,782
And everybody is very different.

773
00:36:57,782 --> 00:36:59,250
It's just like when you're watching TV,

774
00:36:59,250 --> 00:37:01,452
some people just really play
with the volume a lot,

775
00:37:01,452 --> 00:37:03,688
and some people just sit there
and watch it.

776
00:37:03,688 --> 00:37:07,458
And so it's part of what I do
is just listen to the patient.

777
00:37:07,458 --> 00:37:09,193
They'll tell you what they need. Yeah.

778
00:37:09,193 --> 00:37:11,095
So we run these shows nationally

779
00:37:11,095 --> 00:37:14,532
and I run Shannon’s shows nationally,
even though she's here in Overland Park.

780
00:37:14,532 --> 00:37:17,802
The reason I do
that is because she educates people.

781
00:37:18,102 --> 00:37:21,105
You listen to what she's saying,
she's educating you.

782
00:37:21,305 --> 00:37:22,440
What I'm going to say to you

783
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,244
if you're not here in the KC Metro,
if you're in Lawrence or you're in Topeka

784
00:37:26,244 --> 00:37:30,214
or whatever, take the time and drive down
here, go see them, okay?

785
00:37:30,214 --> 00:37:33,918
And and get the proper care
you need rather than spinning your wheels

786
00:37:33,918 --> 00:37:35,586
doing something. It's not going to work.

787
00:37:35,586 --> 00:37:39,223
But if you know you're listening to us,
you know, whether Bedford, Pennsylvania,

788
00:37:39,223 --> 00:37:42,693
or you're in Alaska
or you're in Redlands, California,

789
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,497
find a local, provider that does this.

790
00:37:46,497 --> 00:37:49,500
Look and find out what they're all about,
okay?

791
00:37:49,734 --> 00:37:53,671
And do not use these conglom-o
franchise outfits.

792
00:37:53,671 --> 00:37:55,273
You heard Len say it.

793
00:37:55,273 --> 00:37:57,775
It's like a factory.
You're in there and you're out of there.

794
00:37:57,775 --> 00:37:59,076
You're in there and you're out of there.

795
00:37:59,076 --> 00:38:01,779
And then when you try to get help,
you can't get the help.

796
00:38:01,779 --> 00:38:03,481
And that's half the battle right there.

797
00:38:03,481 --> 00:38:05,049
So it's critically important.

798
00:38:05,049 --> 00:38:07,318
Thank you for coming in here again
and doing this.

799
00:38:07,318 --> 00:38:08,953
You did a great job. Once again.

800
00:38:08,953 --> 00:38:12,923
If you want their phone number is (913)

801
00:38:13,224 --> 00:38:16,227
754 2144.

802
00:38:16,427 --> 00:38:19,297
The website myfocushearing.com.

803
00:38:19,297 --> 00:38:22,300
And now I leave you with this thought
from Albert Einstein,

804
00:38:22,333 --> 00:38:25,569
the one who follows the crowd, they
usually get no further than the crowd.

805
00:38:25,803 --> 00:38:30,241
The one who walks alone is likely to find
himself in places no one has ever been.

806
00:38:30,574 --> 00:38:32,777
Remember,
friends, it's a funny thing about life.

807
00:38:32,777 --> 00:38:37,214
If you refuse to accept anything
but the very best, you most often get it.

808
00:38:37,481 --> 00:38:40,451
Thank you for listening to America's
Healthcare Advocate Show.

809
00:38:40,451 --> 00:38:43,454
Broadcasting coast
to coast across the USA.

810
00:38:43,688 --> 00:38:45,089
Goodbye America.
