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You are the most knowledgeable
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or we're going to expose
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from Saint Luke's,
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at Saint Luke's for the diabetes
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a whole series of information
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So once again,
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As I said,
Ron Hoyer is joining me in studio.

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Is this the third
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It is third in our series on diabetes
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So what you're going to learn today
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we're treating this disease now
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You're going to be a little surprised
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We're also going to show you a solution.

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It's really quite remarkable
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whether you're type one or type two,
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This is going to be pretty interesting.

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Ron Hoyler has a masters of Business
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a master of science nursing,
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and Personal Administration, an Associate
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He is a certified Diabetes
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certified Diabetes Care Education
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a Pump Certified Trainer Patient
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Hospital, 2010, the nominee for the Daisy
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He's got a whole list of these
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and telling you all that is to tell you
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really knows what he's talking about
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And here's why this is important, okay?

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And this will scare you.
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Three out of four Americans over the age
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And you're looking at one of them.

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Okay, I was diagnosed as pre diabetic
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I did I got involved with it

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with a, with a weight loss
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and I started changing my diet
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the comorbidities, we're
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the things that you're putting
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And and in my opinion,
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So let's just dive right in that
when I saw this on the notes,

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or I was up doing show
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and I'm like three out of four.

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I think that's the first time
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I knew one out of three Americans have
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and you're looking at the guy at 75 here,
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That's a that's a shocking number Ron.

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Scary stat, isn't it? Yeah.

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the thing that drove me
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and I've been having conversation
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some of the other comorbidities
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So let's go through some of those.

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Some of the most common
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in stage renal disease,
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We all know that type one diabetics
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is the seventh leading cause of death
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And someone dies of diabetes
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Those numbers are. Shocking. Yeah.

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They are.

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So it's such a prevalent disease.

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it is a disorder that we could do
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at in taking care of than what we do now.

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And that's so, so here's, here's a number
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We have a 165 meds to treat diabetes with.

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And we're going to get into
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which meds to treat you with.

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But that number alone is pretty shocking.

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Yeah. How do you 165 meds.

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Now I went on metformin for six months
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now, but if I had to go back on it,
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making is, you know, I was able to use
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But, you know, again, I don't want to
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you know, talk about this now because I
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We're really going to surprise
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But that's got to be extreme.

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You're a clinician. Yeah.

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Look, you when these patients
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you get 165 beds to choose from, Ron?

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Well, and technically there's over 800

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combinations of meds and doses
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And how does a physician decide
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or their other patient
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It's almost a crapshoot, really.

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It's really what it sounds like.

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And what would really be
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or information
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and what's happening on a daily basis
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And that and we're going to talk about
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Believe me, the third segment
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to a lot of people,
especially if you're diabetic

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or have somebody in your family
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But let's talk about what kind of drove us
to come back in here today

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to do this show.

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And that was and we'll get into this
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But let's talk about the cognitive issues.

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This is something that was new to me.

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And you brought this up.
I was like, for real.

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Yeah. So let's
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Let's talk about that
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I think, you know,and
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combinations of meds and doses
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And how does a physician decide
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or their other patient

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It’s almost a crapshoot, really.

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And when we have high blood sugars, that
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to take in this fuel to run efficiently,
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to do certain processes daily living,

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remembering things, doing processes of,

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balancing your checkbook
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Knowing when to test your blood sugar,
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In fact, people with diabetes
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chance of developing dementia
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And that's just scary.

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As we get, more and more people
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that's shocking.

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And how big is the risk?

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Does that risk grow for over 65?

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Create three out of four right.
Pretty big number.

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risk for not just dementia,
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Some of the specific, diseases
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like Alzheimer's,

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but cognitive impairment in general,

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you know, that fog that you'll
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just suddenly in the moment, not quite
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that can be related to the high blood
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So when we come back to the break,
we're going to get into this in detail

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because this is a piece
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before, the risk here, remember,
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three out of four of you
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over the age of 65
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So that's that's why this becomes an even
greater issue on your quality of life.

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You know, you're listening to this,
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watch them, listen to them, whatever.

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But that's a great way to educate somebody
that may have this disease.

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Maybe you're struggling
getting that family member.

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Pay attention and do what they need to do
to correct the situation with diabetes.

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The reason I do these kind of shows
and bring experts in here

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who take time out of their day,
like Ron Hoyler to do this,

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is so I can educate and inform,
and that's what we're trying to do.

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All right.
So we're going to switch gears. Now.

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We're going to talk about,

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as I said, the thing that really caught
my attention was this whole cognitive

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issue and how diabetes affects is because
we have not talked about that before.

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So it's called big brain age gap.

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And I'm going to show you a picture
now of what that looks like okay.

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And then I'm going to ask
Ron to explain this so you can see exactly

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what we're talking about here.

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These are concrete
examples of what happens if you're a type

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one type two diabetic, and you are not
keeping this disease in check.

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Ron, walk us through this.

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We have a lot of different ways we can
measure different functions in the brain.

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And one of the things that we can do is
we can look at it and the processes

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and how fast it works.

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And if, if we're really doing,
the things we want our brain to do

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and we can, accumulate that information
for an age group,

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and we can say,
this is your brain age for this.

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Yeah. The what the brain scan does,
it does an amazing job.

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Yeah, I've seen those before.
Those are excellent.

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And what we can do then is we can
look at somebody who has diabetes

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and we can say,
is your brain front function

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working at the same chronological age
as what you are

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or compared to somebody your age
without diabetes?

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And, data demonstrates

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that diabetes can cause brain atrophy
and that affects

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the brain age of your brain,
and that makes it go further

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and further from chronologically,
what it should be when you have diabetes.

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And no surprise that the worse control

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you have with your diabetes,
the greater the distance

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between what your chronological brain age
should be and what it actually is.

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Okay, so you're 75 years old.

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You're not paying attention
to your diabetes.

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You're letting it rage out of control.

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You're doing the things you shouldn't
be doing.

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So instead of having a 75 year old brain,
you've got a 97 year old brain.

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Well, I'm giving you an example.

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That that's maybe a little bit
more of a gap than what the statistic

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indicates, but it certainly indicates,
let's say that if your,

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hemoglobin A1c or 8% or greater,

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that on average that's about a four year
gap or deficiency.

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You're going to continue to.

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Yeah,
most likely among other things. Right.

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Because as we talked about
in the last segment, your risk for,

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other functions in your brain
being affected or the risk of dementia,

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or, impairment
are significantly increased.

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The worse blood flow you have
into the brain from the high blood sugar.

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So I will tell you, okay.

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Personally, for me,
and I did not know this, but, you know,

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I've been very aware of
I've done a lot of shows on Alzheimer's.

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So we've had Steve Sanborn on here
talking with the Wavi brain scan

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and his group Neurologic, what they do
and what a difference that makes.

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That's one of the things
that is terrified me about aging

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was am I going to wind up?

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I've got a very good friend, a guy
I served with overseas in Vietnam.

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He was
he and I were partners the whole time

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we were there as dog handlers.

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And he's got dementia.

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And I worry about George.

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We're back and forth every week talking.

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He lives down in Texas, East Texas,
and as a cattle ranch

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and, you know, very concerned
about his dementia.

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And, you know, him
being able to keep it in check.

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And this is exactly why I wanted
to do this show today and talk about this,

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because I will tell you,
as a seasoned citizen,

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one of us
that is chronologically challenged,

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this is the one thing
that terrifies the hell out of me.

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And it should terrify all of you
to be sitting there

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and not have control of your mind
and your own thought

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process, and be able to care for yourself
in any form.

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And then, you know, in addition
to, you know, you're being that person

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that has this problem,
what does that do to your family?

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Right?

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What a hardship did.

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That whole burden.

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Yeah. Over to your wife and your children.

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Because you weren't paying attention
to something that you knew,

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was a possibility.

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And the thing.

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I keep going back to this number
because it just shocks the hell out of me.

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Three out of four Americans over 65. Yeah.

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So if they're, you know,
if they're not paying attention to this,

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you can almost guarantee they're going to
wind up with that problem.

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Sure.

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And, you know, to be clear, you can have
dementia without having diabetes.

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Of course you can.
But do you want to add to the risk? Right.

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Exactly.

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You're tipping the scale the other way.

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Okay, let's hurry up and get dementia,
okay. Yeah.

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That's what we want to do, right?

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That makes a hell of a lot of sense that.

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No. Well, that's why this information
is so important for people to understand

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so that they can stack the odds
in their favor,

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right, of not having to deal
with those kind of complications.

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And, and the first thing is, and we,
you know,

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we're going to come up on the break here
in about three minutes.

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But the first thing is that
and kind of explain to people

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why it's so critical

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that they get that A1c initially
and find out if they're at risk.

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Yeah, yeah.

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You think you don't have a problem.

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You don't know that truth. Yeah. Okay.

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Yeah.

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That's why, you know,

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you're going into your doctor
for an annual physical and lab work

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because there are a whole lot of ways
that we can easily and quickly

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or, early on detect something
so that we can fix it.

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Always easier to fix it
when you catch it early on.

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Right. Cancers,

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all kinds of stuff, diabetes included.

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And, one of the quick things
that they can do at a physical is check

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a blood sugar,

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take a urine sample,
see if there's glucose in the urine.

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They get an indication.

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Do you seem to be
in that prediabetes stage

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or possibly already in the diabetes stage?

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And the earlier you catch it, the earlier
you can start to intervene

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and get it under control.

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Now I want to tell you something.

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You may think, hey, I'm physically fit,
I workout.

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You know,
I've been a gym rat all of my life, okay?

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Ever since I got out of the military,

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I've always worked
at least 3 or 4 times a week.

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I still couldn't shake this.

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I could not get out of this
pre-diabetes zone

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with this A1C and I, you know,
I took the steps.

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I did the right thing.

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I went to a group here called Heartland

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Weight Loss, and got myself back under...

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dropped about 18 pounds,
and got my A1c down

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and I, you know, I've got labs
coming up here in a couple weeks.

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Time to go right back in
and check it again.

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But if you, if you think, oh gee, I'm
in good health, I don't have this problem.

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No, you don't know.

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And that's Ron's whole point.

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You need to get physical,
get the A1c check if you're in that range.

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I was in the range for pre-diabetes.

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I was not diabetic yet,
but I was right there.

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I could cross the line pretty easily.

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That's when I changed my diet
and, you know, made a difference.

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Like I said
I went on metformin for six months.

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Got it under control. Now I'm off of it.

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I'm staying under control,
but I'm paying attention to it.

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If you're not paying attention to this,
you get further down the road.

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You might not be able
to correct it, right.

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Then it shifts over into type 2?

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And now you got a big fight on your hands,

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a really big fight on your hands, and it's
going to affect everything in your life.

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So that's why we're doing the show
today, is to try to explain to you.

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Now, when we come back from the break,

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we're going to talk about
how this disease is treated,

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how it has been treated historically,
and about a major breakthrough

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that literally is going to change the way
diabetes gets treated.

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Stay tuned.

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By the way,
I've been getting a lot of emails lately.

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People that have questions, issues

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that lady up in West Virginia
the other day, etc.

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if you want to send me an email,

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go to the website America's
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I get the emails.

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Dave makes sure that I answer him.

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If I don't, he tells me I missed okay.

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And then I answer them.

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So if you've got a question for something
I can help you with or you have an issue,

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Use the website
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All right.

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So now this is going to be interesting
because I'm going to I'm going

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to use an analogy here.

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And then I'm going to have Ron explain
that analogy

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as we talk about this new way
to manage this disease.

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So would you buy a car
without a speedometer.

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I would not.

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And and because that would be foolish,
it would would.

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Yeah.

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You know, I tell patients
that managing your diabetes

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without constant information
is going to set you up for failure.

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And I use an analogy
that, let's say you rented a car

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to travel across the United States
from the East Coast to the West Coast.

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And the car they want to give
you doesn't have a speedometer.

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How comfortable
are you feeling about driving?

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Not knowing your speed
and not being able to assess

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if you are going the appropriate
speed limit?

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Yeah, obviously
I'm not going to drive that car, right?

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Yeah.

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And because you recognize that
that incoming data is necessary

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for you to be in a safe situation
and not get yourself in trouble.

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And diabetes is no different.

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The amount of information coming in about
your blood sugars needs to be frequent,

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and it needs to be something
you can see readily, and that's something

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that we're not appropriately using,
like we could with the technology

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we have today.

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Yeah. So let me just give you
an example of what we do now.

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Then I'm going to ask Ron to explain this.

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This is a typical, chart,

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if you will, that a doctor sees
if you are getting A1c.

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So we're going to explain
A1c here in a minute.

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And you're having a check.
This is what it looks like.

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This is what he or she has.

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Or Ron in the case of a nurse,
if they're treating this

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to go by to decide
which one of those 165 medications

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that we were talking about,
this is how he,

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he or she is supposed to know
which one to give you.

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You might as well
just get a dart board and throw a dart.

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It feels that way sometimes. No.

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So you, first of all, let's explain A1c
and then let's talk about this.

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Sure. This this this idea.

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So we got a little history lesson here
because,

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we've only had blood sugar meters,
which is what this is.

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These are, examples of somebody
who has checked their blood sugar twice

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a day, which is often, the number of times
doctors ask you to check or,

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maybe the number of times your insurance
will allow you to check daily.

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And, it is some points on the board,
random points.

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And a clinician is supposed to be able
to look at that and somehow, ascertain

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how your medicine is going,
how your daily life is going,

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how the decisions you're making
are working to manage your diabetes.

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And so that is just not
a lot of information.

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It certainly is not.

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So that is blood sugars right now,

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one of the common ways to get at least
a ballpark idea of your average blood

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sugar is what's called an A1c, in which,
this has been around for decades.

469
00:23:00,779 --> 00:23:04,683
It's a quick, fast, cheap
way to get an idea of somebody

470
00:23:04,683 --> 00:23:06,551
who maybe doesn't check their blood sugars

471
00:23:06,551 --> 00:23:10,622
or simply doesn't have any idea
of how their blood sugars are looking.

472
00:23:10,922 --> 00:23:12,924
We measure, we take a drop,

473
00:23:12,924 --> 00:23:16,128
a red blood cell, and measure
the amount of blood sugar on it.

474
00:23:16,561 --> 00:23:20,132
And because a red blood cell has a life
span of three months, we know that

475
00:23:20,132 --> 00:23:23,468
that is a three month
average of your blood sugar.

476
00:23:23,902 --> 00:23:26,905
Now, that is some information.

477
00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:31,042
And for years, really for decades,
it was kind of the gold standard.

478
00:23:31,443 --> 00:23:35,947
And the problem is that an average
is often misleading.

479
00:23:36,381 --> 00:23:38,283
Let me give you an example.

480
00:23:38,283 --> 00:23:41,553
If half of your blood sugars are high
and half of them are low,

481
00:23:41,820 --> 00:23:45,457
they're going to average out correct
to a nice A1c right.

482
00:23:45,624 --> 00:23:49,661
If you're simply going by A1c,
you may say, oh, I'm doing great.

483
00:23:49,995 --> 00:23:53,331
But the truth of the matter is,
when you have that kind of variability

484
00:23:53,331 --> 00:23:56,802
in your blood sugars
from high to low and high to low,

485
00:23:57,135 --> 00:24:01,406
that's creating oxidative, oxidative
stress on the cells that's damaging them,

486
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,343
interrupting blood flow efficiency
into the brain and other organs.

487
00:24:05,677 --> 00:24:11,383
And so an A1c while it is
some information, it is not the best

488
00:24:11,383 --> 00:24:15,654
indicator for your diabetes management
and overall health of your diabetes.

489
00:24:15,654 --> 00:24:18,657
So now we're going to shift
to this breakthrough technology.

490
00:24:18,723 --> 00:24:21,827
And you know, we live in a world
where things are changing rapidly

491
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,462
with technology.

492
00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:26,465
This breakthrough
technology is called CGM.

493
00:24:26,731 --> 00:24:28,767
This is what I want to have Ron
explain that.

494
00:24:28,767 --> 00:24:32,070
But this is what a chart
looks like from a CGM.

495
00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:34,940
You see the difference here?
Just the visual difference.

496
00:24:34,940 --> 00:24:37,843
And looking at this okay,
this is the difference.

497
00:24:37,843 --> 00:24:40,078
Now explain what that means.

498
00:24:40,078 --> 00:24:42,314
First of all,
what is the CGM. Let's show them.

499
00:24:42,314 --> 00:24:46,117
Yeah well so a CGM is just a little device
about the size of a dime.

500
00:24:46,418 --> 00:24:50,355
Sticks on your arm or,
there's other places on your body.

501
00:24:50,822 --> 00:24:52,457
It's waterproof.

502
00:24:52,457 --> 00:24:54,893
And you can wear it for either 10
or 15 days.

503
00:24:54,893 --> 00:24:57,195
It continually monitors your blood sugar.

504
00:24:57,195 --> 00:24:59,397
And that's why you get this really nice

505
00:24:59,397 --> 00:25:03,168
graph layout here
that shows everything, high.

506
00:25:03,168 --> 00:25:05,971
Low when it's high,
when it's low during the day.

507
00:25:05,971 --> 00:25:07,272
Except. Right.

508
00:25:07,272 --> 00:25:09,975
Well, not only that,
but that information goes directly

509
00:25:09,975 --> 00:25:12,878
to my doctor's office
if he or she wants to see it.

510
00:25:12,878 --> 00:25:14,713
And is it on your phone?

511
00:25:14,713 --> 00:25:16,915
It is also the the. Alright.

512
00:25:16,915 --> 00:25:22,420
So for me, I can just touch
the icon and it's going to

513
00:25:23,522 --> 00:25:25,790
show me,

514
00:25:25,790 --> 00:25:28,960
where, where I'm at, say
I want to look at my time and range.

515
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,496
Well. Let's hold that
so the camera can see that.

516
00:25:31,496 --> 00:25:32,631
Yeah, yeah.

517
00:25:32,631 --> 00:25:36,067
So what I know is that the decisions
I've been making

518
00:25:36,601 --> 00:25:39,571
have been keeping my blood sugar in range.

519
00:25:39,871 --> 00:25:44,142
The reason that's significant
is because many researchers and providers

520
00:25:44,142 --> 00:25:48,780
feel that time and range is the best
indicator of your overall diabetes health,

521
00:25:49,247 --> 00:25:54,853
because going back to an A1,
see, as I said, you could have a nice A1c

522
00:25:54,853 --> 00:25:59,558
the A1 that Ada recommends and A1c of it,
because we just talked about averaging.

523
00:25:59,558 --> 00:26:02,661
If you get the average right,
you know you're not because you're

524
00:26:03,161 --> 00:26:05,730
you're it's a false
it's a false narrative.

525
00:26:05,730 --> 00:26:08,300
Well, use this again.

526
00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:12,370
This CGM
download shows me in this particular case

527
00:26:12,370 --> 00:26:16,074
that this patient was in range
59% of the time.

528
00:26:16,741 --> 00:26:19,678
70% is the goal.

529
00:26:19,678 --> 00:26:21,680
So they have some work to do. Right.

530
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:26,217
However, it also gives me an indicator
of what the KG or what the A1c would be.

531
00:26:26,518 --> 00:26:28,987
And I think it has it at 7.2 here.

532
00:26:28,987 --> 00:26:32,791
So if you were just going by A1c you'd go
wow, look

533
00:26:32,791 --> 00:26:37,028
how close I am to doing really well
now that's not telling the whole picture.

534
00:26:37,295 --> 00:26:39,598
Number one,
we're not getting our time and range.

535
00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:40,899
But number two,

536
00:26:40,899 --> 00:26:45,270
remember I talked about the variability
that causes the oxidative stress on cells.

537
00:26:45,570 --> 00:26:51,443
This shows me the variability and
if it is matching up to a healthy range.

538
00:26:51,743 --> 00:26:52,877
And so now I'm getting

539
00:26:52,877 --> 00:26:56,681
not just a little bit of information
I'm getting the entire picture.

540
00:26:57,015 --> 00:27:00,318
I also see a graph of where you go
high or low throughout the day,

541
00:27:00,452 --> 00:27:04,356
so that I know where we need to pinpoint
specifically

542
00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:08,193
either the medicine
we're taking at that time or the dose, or.

543
00:27:08,193 --> 00:27:09,661
How you're. Eating or how you're eating.

544
00:27:09,661 --> 00:27:13,565
So my Saturday morning
donuts are going to show up, not doing

545
00:27:14,566 --> 00:27:15,433
only Saturday.

546
00:27:15,433 --> 00:27:17,869
So that's not true Saturday and Sunday
okay.

547
00:27:17,869 --> 00:27:19,070
But you okay. Yeah.

548
00:27:19,070 --> 00:27:23,408
So the point is simply this that
with an abundance of information,

549
00:27:23,408 --> 00:27:27,345
I can make a more accurate
and timely clinical decision

550
00:27:27,345 --> 00:27:31,116
to help you manage your diabetes,
but you also are able to.

551
00:27:31,116 --> 00:27:31,383
Yeah.

552
00:27:31,383 --> 00:27:34,252
So the that's the part
I want to get to here.

553
00:27:34,252 --> 00:27:37,956
This is what's so critical about this
this piece of technology.

554
00:27:38,023 --> 00:27:39,190
What it does.

555
00:27:39,190 --> 00:27:41,660
You now can treat

556
00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:44,696
your own know how to treat your diabetes
okay.

557
00:27:44,696 --> 00:27:49,267
To help to help your clinician,
your doctor, your nurse, whoever it is,

558
00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:54,005
keep your diabetes under control because
you have a constant flow of information

559
00:27:54,239 --> 00:27:56,775
going back to your physician,
which you see.

560
00:27:56,775 --> 00:28:00,679
So if you decide that I'm going to have
two martinis that evening,

561
00:28:00,812 --> 00:28:02,580
you're going to see your blood sugar jump.

562
00:28:02,580 --> 00:28:03,715
Okay.

563
00:28:03,715 --> 00:28:03,948
You know,

564
00:28:03,948 --> 00:28:07,852
if you decide you want that piece of apple
pie with with ice cream on top of it,

565
00:28:07,986 --> 00:28:10,088
you're gonna see your blood sugar jump,

566
00:28:10,088 --> 00:28:12,290
but you're going to know
what you're doing, okay?

567
00:28:12,290 --> 00:28:13,391
And where you are.

568
00:28:13,391 --> 00:28:16,161
How do those foods affect your behavior?

569
00:28:16,161 --> 00:28:18,763
So I think this is absolutely remarkable.

570
00:28:18,763 --> 00:28:21,266
Now here's the $64,000 question.

571
00:28:21,266 --> 00:28:23,501
Or are the insurance carriers
covering this.

572
00:28:23,501 --> 00:28:26,137
Yes and no. Is Medicare covering.

573
00:28:26,137 --> 00:28:31,142
It? Medicare will only cover it
if you have a diabetes diagnosis

574
00:28:31,810 --> 00:28:35,346
and you're on insulin,
or you have a history

575
00:28:35,346 --> 00:28:40,185
of hypoglycemic events
that you are unaware of or in danger of.

576
00:28:40,351 --> 00:28:44,456
Is a type two diabetic
or pre-diabetic able to get this paid for.

577
00:28:44,456 --> 00:28:45,724
In some instances?

578
00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:51,629
Maybe in some instances,
one of these, devices has got a, program

579
00:28:51,629 --> 00:28:55,233
where they will sell you a sensor
at a fairly reasonable cost.

580
00:28:55,233 --> 00:28:55,934
What's reasonable.

581
00:28:55,934 --> 00:28:58,837
Whether about $85 a month. That's fine.

582
00:28:58,837 --> 00:29:02,640
But $85 a month to know that I'm not going
to move toward dementia.

583
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,842
Right? Yeah.

584
00:29:03,842 --> 00:29:07,612
And and all the other comorbidities
that we talked about here

585
00:29:07,812 --> 00:29:11,049
amputations,
seizures, renal disease, neuropathy, etc..

586
00:29:11,783 --> 00:29:13,852
I would say it's worth $85 a month.

587
00:29:13,852 --> 00:29:18,022
Well, you know, my heart and my brain
tell me what I would

588
00:29:18,022 --> 00:29:22,494
really want to see is why do we even need
prescriptions for these?

589
00:29:22,494 --> 00:29:25,630
Yeah, we have watches
that tell us our heart rate,

590
00:29:25,697 --> 00:29:28,633
that tell us how many steps we get
that tell us, you know,

591
00:29:28,633 --> 00:29:32,470
our oxygen saturation for every day
we have all that information.

592
00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:37,742
If diabetes is such,
such a dynamic disease

593
00:29:37,742 --> 00:29:41,613
affecting us right now,
why aren't we making the tools available

594
00:29:41,613 --> 00:29:43,848
more readily
for people to be able to be healthy?

595
00:29:43,848 --> 00:29:45,884
Okay, so it's called the CGM.

596
00:29:45,884 --> 00:29:48,086
You can ask your physician about it.

597
00:29:48,086 --> 00:29:51,089
You may qualify for it
if you're a type two diabetic.

598
00:29:51,322 --> 00:29:52,590
Possibly. Okay.

599
00:29:52,590 --> 00:29:55,827
If you're pre-diabetic, it's
not going to be covered by insurance.

600
00:29:55,827 --> 00:29:59,731
You can almost guarantee that
if it's worth $85 a month to you.

601
00:29:59,731 --> 00:30:00,865
And I can assure you

602
00:30:00,865 --> 00:30:01,566
that, you know,

603
00:30:01,566 --> 00:30:03,768
when I walk out of this studio,
that's the first thing

604
00:30:03,768 --> 00:30:06,004
that I'm going to do
is I'm going to get that monitor

605
00:30:06,004 --> 00:30:07,205
and I'm going to have it on my phone

606
00:30:07,205 --> 00:30:10,942
so I know what I'm doing because I,
you know, I've got six grandchildren.

607
00:30:11,176 --> 00:30:11,576
Okay?

608
00:30:11,576 --> 00:30:14,679
I want to continue to enjoy my life
with my wife and be able to do

609
00:30:14,679 --> 00:30:17,682
the things I want to do,
and I'm not going to put myself at risk

610
00:30:17,682 --> 00:30:19,751
for something like this
when I don't have to.

611
00:30:19,751 --> 00:30:21,519
That's why we do this radio show.

612
00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:23,321
So we'll be right back after the break.

613
00:30:23,321 --> 00:30:25,857
You're listening to America's
Healthcare Advocate

614
00:30:25,857 --> 00:30:28,459
broadcasting coast
to coast across the USA.

615
00:30:28,459 --> 00:30:30,562
Stay right there.
We're going to wrap it up. Next segment.

616
00:30:36,234 --> 00:30:36,901
Welcome back.

617
00:30:36,901 --> 00:30:40,371
You're listening to America's Healthcare
Advocate Show broadcasting coast to coast

618
00:30:40,672 --> 00:30:41,706
across the USA.

619
00:30:41,706 --> 00:30:43,641
If you want to tell somebody about this
show,

620
00:30:43,641 --> 00:30:46,644
you want to listen to it again
or you want to introduce it to a family,

621
00:30:46,811 --> 00:30:49,414
maybe you've got a husband,
a wife or grandfather father, whatever

622
00:30:49,414 --> 00:30:52,550
the case may be, a grandmother
that you think has this issue,

623
00:30:52,917 --> 00:30:55,486
get them to go up to the podcast platform
to listen to it.

624
00:30:55,486 --> 00:30:57,956
There are 16 podcast platforms out there.

625
00:30:57,956 --> 00:31:00,291
You can certainly find this
without any trouble.

626
00:31:00,291 --> 00:31:03,728
You can also go to the YouTube
platform, America's Healthcare Advocate

627
00:31:03,895 --> 00:31:07,265
and the shows are all posted
up there by Dave, so they can listen to it

628
00:31:07,498 --> 00:31:12,103
and understand this is a better way
to deal with this issue of diabetes.

629
00:31:12,103 --> 00:31:12,570
Okay?

630
00:31:12,570 --> 00:31:15,840
And that's why I do these broadcasts
and that's why we're doing this today.

631
00:31:16,074 --> 00:31:18,843
So it's important
that you have that information.

632
00:31:18,843 --> 00:31:21,880
I want to thank Saint Luke's
that by the way, if you wanted to see

633
00:31:22,213 --> 00:31:25,950
Ron Hoyler, saintlukeskc.org is website.

634
00:31:25,950 --> 00:31:28,052
saintlukeskc.org. Make an appointment.

635
00:31:28,052 --> 00:31:29,153
Get going there.

636
00:31:29,153 --> 00:31:30,688
Sit down and talk with him

637
00:31:30,688 --> 00:31:34,158
and find out what you can do to start
getting your diabetes under control.

638
00:31:34,292 --> 00:31:37,896
It is critically important
that you get it under control.

639
00:31:38,129 --> 00:31:42,133
So as Ron, like say you live
with the diabetes, not the diabetes

640
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,068
telling you how you have to live.

641
00:31:44,068 --> 00:31:46,704
And we'll talk a little bit
about that here in this segment.

642
00:31:46,704 --> 00:31:49,307
So this is interesting.

643
00:31:49,307 --> 00:31:52,043
We just talked about Medicare
what they cover and what they don't cover.

644
00:31:52,043 --> 00:31:54,412
You know how much I love government
run health care.

645
00:31:54,412 --> 00:31:57,415
And I'm on Medicare one half of the budget

646
00:31:57,982 --> 00:32:03,288
that Medicare allots for for care
goes to diabetes and diabetes programs.

647
00:32:03,288 --> 00:32:07,158
So do you think maybe by implementing
a program like this,

648
00:32:08,126 --> 00:32:09,060
we could see a

649
00:32:09,060 --> 00:32:12,964
significant savings that maybe DOGE
needs to get involved in this.

650
00:32:13,231 --> 00:32:14,565
Okay. And explain.

651
00:32:14,565 --> 00:32:17,702
There is a better way to do this
using technology.

652
00:32:18,002 --> 00:32:18,603
Okay.

653
00:32:18,603 --> 00:32:21,372
That would drive down
the cost of the whole Medicare budget.

654
00:32:21,372 --> 00:32:24,342
Half of the budget is alotted to diabetes.

655
00:32:24,342 --> 00:32:26,144
For complications from diabetes.

656
00:32:26,144 --> 00:32:29,714
So that's spending the money on the back
end instead of the front end

657
00:32:30,048 --> 00:32:33,017
with the CGM, like Dexcom and Libre,

658
00:32:33,017 --> 00:32:38,856
that can help you see what's going on so
you can more effectively manage your diet.

659
00:32:38,856 --> 00:32:40,291
And take control of your life.

660
00:32:40,291 --> 00:32:44,495
And look, you know what we talked about
the 165 diabetes medications.

661
00:32:45,063 --> 00:32:45,930
With a sensor.

662
00:32:45,930 --> 00:32:49,968
I can more appropriately see which
medication is working and which isn't.

663
00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:53,371
So now I have a better choice
of what's going to work for you.

664
00:32:53,371 --> 00:32:53,638
Yeah.

665
00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:57,141
So the clinician is not working
off of this okay.

666
00:32:57,542 --> 00:33:00,645
They're working off of something
that's going to tell them, listen to this.

667
00:33:01,446 --> 00:33:04,148
Every five minutes, 288 readings

668
00:33:04,148 --> 00:33:07,785
a day of your blood
sugar range increase range

669
00:33:08,286 --> 00:33:13,858
18 to 70 in increased time in range
from 18 to 74%.

670
00:33:14,058 --> 00:33:19,030
Reduce this blood glucose to 286 to 158.

671
00:33:19,497 --> 00:33:21,299
That's a 100 point drop.

672
00:33:21,299 --> 00:33:23,468
I mean, this is remarkable.

673
00:33:23,468 --> 00:33:26,004
All because he's got that little disc,

674
00:33:26,004 --> 00:33:29,207
on his arm
that allows you to know where you're at.

675
00:33:29,207 --> 00:33:32,510
And most important part is
it feeds that information to your doctor.

676
00:33:32,677 --> 00:33:32,877
Yeah.

677
00:33:32,877 --> 00:33:35,713
And I should just mention
that this is not surgery or anything.

678
00:33:35,713 --> 00:33:38,316
This is sticking on like a band aide,
Okay.

679
00:33:38,316 --> 00:33:40,785
Yeah. It's noninvasive people.
Okay. Believe me.

680
00:33:40,785 --> 00:33:41,986
Right. Okay.

681
00:33:41,986 --> 00:33:46,157
So, so I, you know, when I look at this,
this gives me a lot of hope.

682
00:33:46,157 --> 00:33:49,427
Yeah, well, you know, it's no mystery that

683
00:33:49,427 --> 00:33:53,231
with all this appropriate
data, you're going to do better.

684
00:33:53,598 --> 00:33:56,601
The mystery probably is that
why aren't we doing it more?

685
00:33:56,667 --> 00:33:57,468
Well, because.

686
00:33:57,468 --> 00:34:00,471
Because we've got to go through
the hurdles with the insurance carriers

687
00:34:00,671 --> 00:34:02,607
and then we've got to go
through the hurdles to CMS.

688
00:34:02,607 --> 00:34:05,910
And God knows how long
it will take them to figure it out. But

689
00:34:06,944 --> 00:34:08,613
therein lies the problem.

690
00:34:08,613 --> 00:34:09,313
Yeah. Okay.

691
00:34:09,313 --> 00:34:10,982
Is, you know, you would think,

692
00:34:10,982 --> 00:34:14,218
given you know, how significant
the difference is between

693
00:34:14,452 --> 00:34:17,989
these two ways of treating this disease
and the people that have it

694
00:34:18,256 --> 00:34:21,092
and the frequency of people
three out four,

695
00:34:21,092 --> 00:34:24,429
65 or older, are they going to have it
that they would be all over this?

696
00:34:24,429 --> 00:34:24,729
Yeah.

697
00:34:24,729 --> 00:34:29,133
In terms of handing it out to people say
here, all you have to do is use it, okay?

698
00:34:29,133 --> 00:34:33,271
Because it's kind of, it's going
to prevent all of these comorbidities

699
00:34:33,337 --> 00:34:33,971
going down.

700
00:34:33,971 --> 00:34:38,709
What does it cost to treat
Alzheimer's, dementia, you know, type

701
00:34:38,709 --> 00:34:42,747
two diabetes, moving to type one diabetes,
you know, all the rest of this.

702
00:34:42,780 --> 00:34:46,284
So this big brouhaha about
the cost of insulin and how to bring the.

703
00:34:46,484 --> 00:34:50,555
Well, that's not treating
the problem is you're already you've

704
00:34:50,655 --> 00:34:51,889
you're already crossed

705
00:34:51,889 --> 00:34:56,327
the Rubicon in terms of where you're at
when you're going on to an insulin pump.

706
00:34:56,394 --> 00:34:58,696
Right.
And that talk about a change in lifestyle.

707
00:34:58,696 --> 00:35:00,631
There's a change of sure, sure.

708
00:35:00,631 --> 00:35:03,901
Well, you know,
insulin is just one of the medications,

709
00:35:03,901 --> 00:35:07,472
right,
that you can take, to manage diabetes.

710
00:35:09,140 --> 00:35:10,741
Unless you of course have type one.

711
00:35:10,741 --> 00:35:13,611
Right. And remember, type one,
your body can't make insulin, right.

712
00:35:13,611 --> 00:35:14,979
So you have to take it. Right.

713
00:35:14,979 --> 00:35:18,182
But that's only about 5% of people
with diabetes have type one.

714
00:35:18,549 --> 00:35:21,119
The vast majority of people have type two.

715
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:22,954
And that's
when your body can make insulin.

716
00:35:22,954 --> 00:35:25,957
But it's not making it
very well to be able to do its job.

717
00:35:26,190 --> 00:35:28,960
So we supplement that with one

718
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,730
or several of these other drugs
that can help adjust your blood sugar.

719
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:35,433
But how well is it working?
Is it the right dose?

720
00:35:35,433 --> 00:35:38,336
Do you remember to take it?
Do you have side effects?

721
00:35:38,336 --> 00:35:41,806
All of those variables
come into play then, and that's why

722
00:35:42,106 --> 00:35:44,275
understanding
what that's doing for your blood sugar

723
00:35:44,275 --> 00:35:47,278
really helps
you make the right decision for this man.

724
00:35:47,345 --> 00:35:51,382
It gives the it it gives the
the clinician, the doctor, the nurse.

725
00:35:51,382 --> 00:35:52,450
It's it's treating you.

726
00:35:52,450 --> 00:35:54,719
There's a roadmap on to okay.

727
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,921
Well that didn't work.
Maybe metformin didn't work.

728
00:35:56,921 --> 00:35:58,556
And you need
or you know, one of the things

729
00:35:58,556 --> 00:36:03,127
that was surprising
to the nurses that put me on metformin

730
00:36:03,127 --> 00:36:06,130
was they kept asking me every week
because I was going to be checked out.

731
00:36:06,631 --> 00:36:07,899
How about side effects for you?

732
00:36:07,899 --> 00:36:11,402
I didn't have any side effects,
but I was like, I wasn't even taking it.

733
00:36:11,402 --> 00:36:12,270
It was remarkable.

734
00:36:12,270 --> 00:36:15,206
I had no issue. Some people,
a lot of people do.

735
00:36:15,206 --> 00:36:17,241
A lot of people have side effects.
I was very fortunate.

736
00:36:17,241 --> 00:36:21,512
But for folks that have side effects,
being able to use this

737
00:36:21,913 --> 00:36:27,118
with these kind of measurements that
I just talked about, 288 readings a day.

738
00:36:27,118 --> 00:36:29,387
That's a whole lot of information
that makes a big difference.

739
00:36:29,387 --> 00:36:31,789
Well, let's go try this med
and then we'll see.

740
00:36:31,789 --> 00:36:33,691
We'll actually be able to measure. Sure.

741
00:36:33,691 --> 00:36:35,993
Whether it's working or not beyond meds.

742
00:36:35,993 --> 00:36:39,664
Look, if you're trying to lose weight
and you're making that conscious effort

743
00:36:39,797 --> 00:36:43,401
to eat better
and or eat less or eat more of the things

744
00:36:43,401 --> 00:36:46,470
that you've been told to do,
this shows you the results.

745
00:36:46,704 --> 00:36:48,172
And when we see results,

746
00:36:48,172 --> 00:36:51,375
that motivates us,
that keeps us going down the right path.

747
00:36:51,709 --> 00:36:54,579
If you're just guessing
because you jump on the scale once a day,

748
00:36:54,579 --> 00:36:59,016
that's just not enough information
to tell you if you are truly doing

749
00:36:59,250 --> 00:37:02,553
something that is going to keep
you going down the right path.

750
00:37:02,553 --> 00:37:04,855
Knowledge
and information are critically important

751
00:37:04,855 --> 00:37:08,392
when you're trying to do anything
in managing this disease.

752
00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:13,231
I think they're even more critically
important, because the risks that you run

753
00:37:13,731 --> 00:37:17,802
by not knowing where you're at in
terms of this issue is significant, that

754
00:37:17,835 --> 00:37:21,272
we just went through a lot of these
co-morbidities, and they are real.

755
00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:24,642
I'll show you something real quick
that's easy for all of us to understand.

756
00:37:24,809 --> 00:37:28,412
When I look at this,
you'll see that around lunchtime.

757
00:37:28,613 --> 00:37:30,281
What is happening after my blood?

758
00:37:30,281 --> 00:37:31,682
What's happening to my blood sugar?

759
00:37:31,682 --> 00:37:33,351
Okay. Skyrockets. Yeah.

760
00:37:33,351 --> 00:37:36,120
Just that information alone tells me.

761
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,422
What are you eating? Let's discuss that.

762
00:37:38,422 --> 00:37:41,926
What medication do I have
you on that works at this time of the day?

763
00:37:42,193 --> 00:37:44,195
Because one of those things
needs to be adjusted.

764
00:37:44,195 --> 00:37:47,198
Because we go up 100 points here
after we eat lunch.

765
00:37:47,498 --> 00:37:50,501
Not so much at breakfast,
not so much at dinner.

766
00:37:50,568 --> 00:37:52,937
Just a quick glance already

767
00:37:52,937 --> 00:37:57,041
has given me so much more information
than a couple of random numbers.

768
00:37:57,074 --> 00:37:59,243
Yeah, so. It's night and day.

769
00:37:59,243 --> 00:38:02,246
And yes, of the stark difference between

770
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,651
the information that the folks have,
you know, thank you for doing this today.

771
00:38:06,651 --> 00:38:07,752
I really

772
00:38:07,752 --> 00:38:11,289
I really think these kind of broadcasts
make a huge difference to people's lives.

773
00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:12,723
I've gotten phone calls from people.

774
00:38:12,723 --> 00:38:15,192
We've done these shows,
and it does make a difference

775
00:38:15,192 --> 00:38:19,930
if you don't know if you these little
if you're over the age of 55 or 60

776
00:38:19,930 --> 00:38:23,601
and you don't know whether you've got type
two diabetes or you're pre-diabetic,

777
00:38:23,768 --> 00:38:27,872
you really need to find out
if you are pre-diabetic and you know it.

778
00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:32,176
This is a far better way to treat it
with that simple little disc.

779
00:38:32,443 --> 00:38:35,579
And for 85 bucks a month,
you can bet I'm going to be doing it.

780
00:38:35,713 --> 00:38:36,647
Okay.

781
00:38:36,647 --> 00:38:39,183
Just look, you know,
look at think of the cost of Alzheimer's

782
00:38:39,183 --> 00:38:42,953
drugs or dementia drugs
versus $85 a month to make sure you're

783
00:38:42,953 --> 00:38:44,088
not having that problem.

784
00:38:44,088 --> 00:38:45,856
So that's why we do these shows.

785
00:38:45,856 --> 00:38:47,325
Thank you again.

786
00:38:47,325 --> 00:38:49,860
And thanks to the people at Saint
Luke's for letting him take time

787
00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:53,731
to come here at the website for Saint
Luke's, is saintlukeskc.org.

788
00:38:53,964 --> 00:38:56,233
If you haven't been checked
or you need to be checked

789
00:38:56,233 --> 00:38:59,236
or you haven't had an A1c,
I would strongly suggest you do.

790
00:38:59,236 --> 00:39:01,372
And if you want to see Ron,
go to the website.

791
00:39:01,372 --> 00:39:02,373
Make an appointment.

792
00:39:02,373 --> 00:39:03,474
Thank you again. Sure.

793
00:39:03,474 --> 00:39:07,011
And I would just probably mention
$85 is the general number.

794
00:39:07,011 --> 00:39:10,114
It might be based on your insurance.

795
00:39:10,381 --> 00:39:13,084
And now I leave you with this thought
from Doctor Martin Luther King.

796
00:39:13,084 --> 00:39:16,587
Americans must learn to live together
as brothers and sisters,

797
00:39:16,587 --> 00:39:19,590
or we will surely perish together
as fools.

798
00:39:19,590 --> 00:39:20,891
Truer words were never spoken.

799
00:39:20,891 --> 00:39:22,593
Thank you for listening to America's
Healthcare

800
00:39:22,593 --> 00:39:26,163
Advocate, broadcasting here on the HIA
Radio Network.

801
00:39:26,430 --> 00:39:28,499
Coast to coast across the USA.

802
00:39:28,499 --> 00:39:29,900
Goodbye America.
