This week on the Donut Box podcast, we talk about
the middle school camping trip where we incited
a few fights and antagonize some youth leaders.
So find out about that. And then in the jail
report, we talk about a man who stole 200 pounds
of ketchup from various fast food restaurants
around a certain town. How is that even possible?
Yeah, you're going to have to tune in to find
out about that one. And then for the donut hole,
I'm going to put Chris to the test on company
slogans from our childhood all the way up to
now. We'll be able to match up the slogan to
the company. We're going to find out. And then
find out what fries my donuts about college kids.
Not just all college kids, but certain ones in
particular. All that and more on this episode
of the Donut Box podcast. Let's roll the intro.
Hi, I'm Micah. And I'm Chris. And we've been
friends for over 20 years. Surprisingly, we haven't
killed each other yet. Years ago, we started
our own variety show and it sucked. Now that
we're adults, we decided to give it another try.
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You never know which one's going to be the next
one. Wait a second. It's chocolate. Oh, right.
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so With that, Chris, how are you feeling this
week? It's great, man. Easter's on the way up,
and I was sitting here thinking, as we release
this episode, it'll have been one year since
we did the Easter at the Buddy Holly. And that
was such a fun time, but I can't believe that
was almost a year ago, dude. So crazy. Yeah,
I can't believe that either. And I think we said
something last week about talking about that
for old -fashioned donut, but hey, we got other
things scheduled We got a better thing scheduled
than that. We'll talk about that some other time
So I'll tell you what let's just get right into
this old -fashioned donut, which is a story from
our past and Chris This is a story that's near
and dear to my, I mean, they're all near and
dear to my heart, but this one's a very near
and dear to my heart. We were talking about this
one just this last week. And this particular
story, we went on a middle school camping trip
and I don't know whose idea this was because.
So Christopher is now a man in the cloth himself.
He's done some middle school youth groups as
well. Some sixth graders, things like that. Is
it a good idea to take them on a camping trip
and have very few chaperones? I'm just going
to start off with that. Not very good. If you're
going to do something like that, you probably
need a lot of chaperones. And I think... The
idea was that when they did this, that there
was going to be like, oh yeah, the dads will
come along, take their kids, all that. Well,
I think people were like, oh yeah, free weekend
of childcare. Yeah, dads ain't coming along.
And there were probably, I would say there was
at least one, two, maybe four or five chaperones,
maybe five. But here's the thing, and we talked
about this too, there was like this separate
camper kind of away and some of the chaperones
just stayed there. And so who was there with
us during the night to keep an eye on us was
like one to two guys. There was only like one
to two adults to keep an eye on us. And, you
know, just to set the scene for this thing, I
remember I was like, okay, if you have a tent,
bring the tent out. And so there was very, I
wouldn't say there was very few of us that had
a tent, but there was only a select few of us
that had a tent. And so there was a lot of guys
sharing tents with other people. And so in our
tent, of course, I'm going to have my boy, Chris.
We had a tent. I know your family had a tent,
but I think it was one of those things of like,
okay, we had camped before like you and I. So
it's like, okay, this tent's the easiest one
to put up. So we're going to take this one out
there. And we were not anticipating that there
was going to to be a third man who is the odd
man out. And really this tent wasn't supposed
to be for three people, but hey, we weren't going
to say no to our good friend, Patty Ice. So we
were like, you know what, we're going to have
him out too. And so in these other tents, there
was a vast amount of guys and it was interesting
from the jump. Now we got out there and I think
it was only one night. I don't remember it being
more than one night. Just one night. It was a
Friday night and then Saturday. morning. So we
probably got out there, I don't know, four or
five. It was before dark because we set up camp.
And I remember like, I brought my tent and I
was like, yeah, Mike is going to be in my tent.
Patty Ice, you can come on. And then there was
another guy, I think Aaron or Zach brought their
tent and they set it up. Zach brought his tent,
set it up and there's probably like four guys
in that tent. And then Joel and his dad brought
their own tent. So it was just a two man tent
for them. But then somebody, I don't know who
did, and I'm glad they did, but somebody brought
like their own, one of the leaders brought their
own tent. And it was like the communal tent for
the rest. It was like this big tent. It was like
the real big tent. It was like the eight person
tent or whatever. And they're like, anybody who
don't have a tent is staying in this tent, right?
And all I remember is, you know, we set up camp,
we did the fire, and then just like any sort
of little retreat deal for the church. We had
to have our little lesson, which I have no clue.
I don't remember what we talked about. I think
we screwed around the entire time this guy was
talking. Uh, cause Joel's dad was the one that
gave the lesson and we were just like, dude,
we're on a camping trip. Shut up. We're trying
to screw around. And so we, uh, he gets done
with that. And it was like, we sat around the
fire for a little bit, but then it was time to
go to bed, right? It was time to go to sleep.
And I remember, so personally, I knew we weren't
going to sleep from the jump. And especially
because this tent that Chris had was, again,
like I go back and say, it was not built for
three people. And I was already a tall kid and
whatnot. I just remember all three of our feet
were like sticking out the end of this tent,
right? Like we all had our own sleeping bags
and whatnot, but our feet were like sticking
out the end of this tent. Like we had to unzip
the... flap of the tent, like our feet were sticking
out of this thing, right? And it was hot. It
was the Georgia summer and it was hot and there
was ants and it was just like, man, this isn't
going to happen. And so what do you do when you
a bunch of middle school boys bored and don't
got nothing to do and it's hot? you start causing
trouble. And so I remember how it started was
before we even got to the communal tent, because
that was a whole different story. We started
throwing rocks at Zach's tent. I remember that
was the first day we started throwing rocks at
Zach's tent and they were all up and they were
all talking. And just like middle school boys,
we were just like, we were just like, oh yeah,
y 'all being gay over there. And we were like,
we were like in sight and a bunch of stuff and
they were getting real mad because we were throwing
rocks at their tent. And I remember this kid,
Zach, he came out there and he got so mad and
he was like, this is my dad's tent. He just bought
it. If you put a hole in it, like you're going
to get, we're going to make you pay for this
tent, all this other stuff. And he got so mad.
And then he went back in there and we were like,
go back in there and be gay with you. little
boyfriends and we were inciting all sorts of
stuff and then finally like I guess we had thrown
too many rocks or something and homie came out
and what did he do Chris? So I remember I just
turned over and it was dark I just turned over
and I thought like there was the window we left
the screen windows open and so like There was
a mesh tent and you could see out the tent and
I thought it was his face, but apparently homies
like mooned us with our tent. We were like, what
are you doing, Zach? Why are you mooning us?
What the heck? And we were just like, we were
like, maybe the rumors are true. Maybe what we're
saying is true. Cause you're showing your butt
to people. And like, it was this whole thing,
man. I was the same way. I just remember looking
over there and I was like, how did he get his
face at that angle? And then I was like, oh yeah.
So I guess he really was a butt face. Cause I
guess if we dive like, Hey, you know, his face
was down there anyways. So I don't like we kind
of harassed them for a bit, but they kind of
like, I think they went to sleep or something.
They kind of quieted down. They went to sleep.
Now the communal tent was still popping. Like
they still had some stuff going on except for
one kid. I remember one kid and it was our boy.
His name was Chris too. And he came over there
and he fell asleep like nine o 'clock. Like he
fell asleep like nine o 'clock. I don't know
how he didn't wake up with the rest of this stuff.
And granted, you know, with us screwing around
with this other tent, like you know, talking
mess and throwing rocks and whatever. Our youth
leader, Tony, poor guy, got, you know, blessed
this man because he had to put up with this crap.
I remember he came over there and he's like,
y 'all need to go to bed. It's, it's way late.
Y 'all need to go to bed. Again, at this point,
I think it was like 11 o 'clock, like 1130. It
wasn't like late, but it was like, hey, you need
to go to bed. And so I just remember at this
other tent, there was kind of some younger kids.
Like there were some younger kids over there.
And of course, Us talking mess just got them
hyped up, right? And so we were talking mess
to them and they kept, they kept going. We started
doing the same thing we were doing to the other
tent. Like, oh yeah, bet y 'all a gay. We were
like, we were like saying all sorts of stuff.
Like, man, you need to shut up and all this other
stuff. And apparently... Some of these middle
school boys, it's always like, shut up. No, you
shut up. You shut up. Where your mom's is. Exactly.
And it's just like, that's not what she told
me last night, stupid stuff. And so at this point,
then, you know, our youth leader comes over there
and he's like, y 'all really need to go to bed,
both tents, y 'all need to go to bed, whatever,
right? And apparently all this mess that we were
talking had this little fight break out between
two brothers within the tent. And so these two
brothers, they were going back and forth. And
I just remember, so the younger one, poor guy,
he had a little bit of a speech impediment. And
so he comes over there and the older brother
was a hothead. Like he was a hothead and a half.
I'm just going to say their name, Alex and Steve.
Alex was the older brother. Stephen was the younger
brother and Alex was a hothead and a half. And
so Stephen comes over there and he's like, do
you mind if I hang out with you guys for a little
bit? It's like, yeah, but you can't get in this
tank because there ain't no freaking space. So
you're going to stand out there. And so he was
standing out there and he's like, my brother
just ticks me off. times and I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna do the impression I could but I'm not
going to and he uh he was like yeah my brother
just takes me off sometimes and what would good
middle school friends do for this guy besides
hype him up and be like listen man you can't
let your brother bully you you can't let him
get away with this stuff and so we really really
hyped up do you remember some of the things we
said yeah I remember us being like yeah like
you got the only way to defeat a bully is to
stand up to a bully and I don't know if maybe
I'm having the Mandela effect but I do remember
getting out of the 10 at one point and maybe
us like yeah like if he does this to you you
just push him or something like we do remember
that yeah it was like teaching him some moves
and like yeah like you've got this Steven like
you don't be talking down to you For some reason,
I even remember being like, if he starts talking
mess to you, I remember sticking my finger in
his chest and being like, you stick your finger
in his chest, tell him, I'm not going to take
this anymore, and all this other stuff. We'll
back you up. We'll back you up. We'll back you
up. There was this common ground in between that
communal tent and our tent. I don't remember
why Alex, the older brother, came over there,
but he came over there. And Steven was like,
I'm not, he's like, I'm not standing for your
crap anymore. And all this other stuff. And all
I remember is Alex, the older brother going,
what'd you say? And all of a sudden they get
into this tussle, like in the middle of the communal
ground there. And they're just like, I've been
steven up. We're like, yeah, you tell them, Steven.
Yeah, we're like, we're like, don't, it's like,
don't back down, Steven. This is your chance
to show them who's boss. All sorts of stuff,
man. And so they, I mean, they start getting
into this tussle and they like get on the ground.
They like start fighting each other and whatnot.
And so of course the youth leader, he comes over
there and he like breaks it up and he's like,
y 'all need to stop. And I'm sure he heard the
whole thing because he was like down on the water
of this lake fishing the whole night. So I'm
sure he's heard like this whole thing. And so.
At this point, he was mad. He was pretty mad.
And he told us like, okay, you stop talking,
go to bed. He made them go back to their tent,
everything, right? Well, what happened was they
made him split up or whatever. And we were like,
okay. And we started like... Ramping everybody
up again. And then all of a sudden I remember
the light just shines on like in our faces It's
like y 'all better shut your mouth right now
Yeah, well seen him some Yeah, well it was cuz
he separated us and he was like y 'all go to
bed and I'm pretty sure the communal tent would
have if we didn't start hyping them up again
and we started just like yelling stuff at them
and all sorts of stuff and and I mean, I just
remember it being like, being like, yeah, you
know, I'm surprised that sleeping bag's big enough
for the two of y 'all and like all sorts of stuff.
We were just, we were just hyping them up. And
so they got all sorts of mad. And so we were
like hollering stuff at each other. And we knew
like if he came back, it was not going to be
good because he was already pretty upset. And
so I remember it being like, man, is Tony coming
back? And we were like whispering to each other.
We're like, oh man, is Tony coming back? And
like everybody was quieted down and that flashlight
comes on. He's like, I'm already here. We were
like, shoot. And he was like, I will call. And
he named all of our mothers in that tent. And
he's like, I will call all of them right now.
Tell me exactly what's happening. and I will
have them come pick you up. You shut your dirty
mouth." And like, he was mad. And after that,
I was like, yeah, maybe it's time to go to bed.
Maybe it's time to go to bed. At this point,
it was like one or two o 'clock in the morning.
Now, while Micah isn't saying, Micah was like,
Tony tried everything. He went to go sleep in
the truck. He was down by the lake. He was really
trying to go to sleep. And we just kept hooping
and hollering. It was like two o 'clock in the
morning and like that's when everybody's like,
okay, it's time to go to sleep at this point
It's just time to go to sleep because after that
because we had never seen Tony that mad and we're
like, you know When you like you make someone
that mad where it's like, okay, this isn't funny
anymore Like everybody just chill out like nobody
say a word. This is serious like this is real
serious and so we end up we end up going to sleep
and I just remember the next morning waking up
and Like he was still pretty steamed in the morning
like he was still not really happy with us and
We went to his house weekly for cell group and
I even remember like we went to his group that
week and he even like talked about not just obedience
but like I Remember he had this whole like cell
group blessed. He's like now I got this this
lesson from the curriculum We ain't gonna do
that this week We're gonna talk about and he
literally like laid to us or he was not happy
at all Yeah. But yeah, that middle school retreat
was something else. All I remember from that
next morning was there was this guy who was like
camping with his girlfriend like next door to
us. And we were, he like made us go apologize
to him for keeping him up too. We were like,
did you, did you, you know, were you up all night?
He's like, oh yeah. But he's like, I knew y 'all
are just boys. So it's whatever. And I think
that guy kind of took it out on us because we
were swimming in the Lake and he had this jet
ski and he kept I just repeatedly what we also
were like, yeah, let's get waves shot on us but
He would like take this jet ski go up real close
to us and like turn real quick So it makes this
big wave over us and there's a few times he got
close Like I thought he was gonna like hit us,
bro And I was just like man, I think maybe he
was taking it out on us, too But yeah the middle
school camping trip that was a good time But
my man Chris, you know, I haven't done too much
volunteering especially not with the youth But
I think you've gotten your return sevenfold on
that deal. Haven't you? Yep I left, I led a middle
school boys group and every week it was the same
thing. It was like, bro, like, please just stop
talking for like five minutes. Let's just get
this lesson done. Five minutes. And then when
I, then when like I led a fourth and fifth grade.
summer camp and like I drove the van and all
the boys were in the van like just them like
farting on each other like throwing chip bags
like everything like dude I was like y 'all just
chill out for two seconds like I had moments
like that and I was like yep it's coming full
circle You know, say what you will about the
future generations and stuff like that. Some
things just always remain the same about boys
at that age. I was even on a walk the other day
with my dog through this park. And at a certain
part of this park, there is a basketball court
and there was these like boys who were probably
middle school age. And they were in this whole
argument, like almost in a fight about like,
bro, give me my change. Like if you ever played
basketball, it was like, give me my change. It's
like, bro, that was a layup. That was too easy
of a shot. You don't get changed for that. And
I was just like, man, I remember being in those
arguments. I guess some things just don't change.
Cause I'm, you know, sometimes you think about
the future generations and you think, man, they're
just sitting around playing video games and it's
different. It's like, nah, some things just don't
change, man. Some things just don't change at
all. Well, I think one thing is funny. I don't
know if I'm going too far, but. I remember there
was this one time we were in worship and there
was this middle school boys around me. And like
during the song worship, like the boys were jumping,
like jumping up and down and everyone except
for one was not jumping. And this other one,
he was kind of like the leader and he looked
at the boy. He was like, if you don't jump during
worship, he's like, you're gay. And that kid,
that kid jumped higher than everybody else. And
I was just like, Oh my God. Bro and like the
thing is they love talking mess on each other.
It's so funny Yeah, they they love talking mess
and like if you're not a part of the group They
will make you feel a certain type of way and
a lot of times for some reasons like you're gay
if you don't do this That's just the thing and
I don't know the times of middle school would
I go back? Absolutely not, but I look back at
those times. I'm like, yeah Would you go back
for like one day or one week? I don't know it
depends on what it is man cuz middle school was
just It was a weird time dude, you know, I don't
know also Do I wish to go back not necessarily
but like I look upon those times with fun memories
I've looked back and go, man, you used to be
able to shoot your mouth off and not have a problem.
So, um, maybe, maybe a little bit for that, but,
uh, but yeah, it was, it was also a little bit
of a weird time. So I don't know, but yeah, that
was our, uh, our middle school, uh, boys camp
and trip, which was, uh, fun times. Um, it was
dark out. So I still don't know who won that
fight between Alex and Steven. I'm going to say
it was probably Alex. and we we hyped him up
and told the whole uh steve we'd back him up
and we just sat there and you know we were coaching
him from the tent we were like yeah steven stand
up for yourself had no going out there to interfere
he's just letting nature take its course Yeah,
that's just nature, man. Poor kid. Anyways, let's
move on to our next segment, which is probably
where some of these kids have ended up. And that
is the jail report, our jelly donut segment.
And Chris, I've got some crazy stories to tell
you about this week for our jail report. One
is that ketchup bandit. Well, hey, we're going
to get to that one in a little bit. This one
is a very COVID -19 arrest report here. I'm sure
maybe you've heard of this one, but in 2020,
a man in California was arrested after being
caught in a local grocery store with a shopping
cart full of toilet paper so he attempted to
steal 50 packs of toilet paper by shoving it
in his shirt and his pants which i mean 50 packs
or 50 rolls 50 packs that's what it says in the
story here 50 packs how do you even get that
much toilet paper I don't know, but it'd be pretty
dang obvious. You'd probably look like the dang
Michelin man trying to walk out the dang door.
There's no way. Anyways, he tried to steal 50
packs, but security stopped him just in time
while he was trying to get out the door. And
he attempted to run, but he couldn't get very
far because of how much toilet paper he had on
him. I know, right? Unless he had like a trench
coat or like something real big, but it also
said that he had a shopping cart full along with
this. So like, he must've like shoved some in
and with the shopping cart and tried to run out
with all of that. And then, so security stopped
them just in time. And so they really, they tacked
on the charges, of course. They charged him with
grand theft, shoplifting and disturbing the peace.
So, uh, that time of COVID when people were buying
up all the toilet paper is unreal to me. Yeah,
man. Hey, you worked in a grocery store. You
saw all that stuff firsthand. People went crazy
for toilet paper. People went wild for that stuff.
Anyways. All right. This one, this next one.
2022, a man in Texas was arrested after attempting
to escape from police and he was wearing no pants.
So I guess you'd call him the pantsless bandit.
He inadvertently lost his pants during his run,
but kept sprinting. So he was charged with, so
what he was trying to do is he had just burgled
the store. It doesn't say what he stole, but
apparently he stole something. He was running
from police and his pants ended up falling down.
He kept on running. And so they tacked on public
indecency, resisting arrest, obstruction of justice
and shoplifting. So and of course his pantsless
mugshot turned into an internet meme Yeah, you
yeah, you got to keep your pants You got at least
wear a belt if you're if you're gonna be running
from the cops Or at least shorts that are like
snuggly fit cuz that's some active duty running
But at least he kept going, you know, yeah, and
he was He was determined. He was like, listen,
I'm getting away from these fools. I'm getting
away from these fools. All right. So the next
one in 2021, a California man tried to rob a
house, but he gets inside and a resident's dog
was barking at him as dogs do and was going after
him. And I don't know if he was on drugs or what
doesn't necessarily say, but this guy stuck around.
barking at the dog trying to intimidate the dog.
So when police caught him, he was still barking
at the dog. So apparently they also had a security
system. And so when he walked through the door,
the security system went off, alerted the police,
the police come by and he was barking at the
dog trying to intimidate it. So he was charged
with attempted burglary and disturbing the peace
as well as criminal trespass. But he was dubbed
as the barking burglar by local news. Do you
remember that scene in Snow Dogs when they were
like, yeah, the way to assert dominance of the
dog, you just got to bite his ear. And Cuba Gooding
Jr. put the dog's ear. Something like that, man,
except apparently this guy was trying to rob
a house and he's... I don't know, man. It's wild.
All right. This one's deliciously from the South.
especially from the state of Georgia, a man in
Georgia tried to escape a police officer by running
out of the Waffle House, carrying an entire waffle
in his hand. So, Homie tried to escape Waffle
House with the whole waffle in his hand. So police
caught him still holding the waffle and they
arrested him. And of course he was charged with
evading arrest, theft of property, disorderly
conduct, and he had an active warrant on him.
The most Georgia thing I've ever heard in my
life. So guess where that was? That was in the
Augusta area. Yes, it was. It was actually in
the Augusta area, man. What was it called, Augusta?
Disgusta. Disgusta for a reason. Disgusta for
a reason. How many people have you met and you
told them, I'm from Augusta, and they ask you,
that city is so beautiful because it has the
masters. Have you ever been, and it's like the
golf course immaculate. The city. That's the
nicest part of town, bro. That's the nicest part
of town. The city is something else. So unless
you have a reason to go to Augusta Do not go
I went to a wedding here recently and there was
some folks there from Georgia like some family
members that were there from Georgia and they
were from North Georgia They're like on the border
of Tennessee and I said, oh, yeah I used to live
in Georgia and they said oh, yeah where and we
said Augusta and they made a face They straight
-up made a face. They're like Okay. So it's like,
yeah, it's, it's not a great place to be, but
you just kind of love the waffle house story
about running out with those good old waffle
there. Does it say? It doesn't say which one.
Uh, Wrightsboro. No, I'm joking. I have no clue.
Hey, that would make sense. Wouldn't it? Um,
so this one. It's just like our podcast here,
but we'll get into that. In 2024, a man in New
York was arrested for stealing dozens of donuts
from a bakery. His capture was both hilarious
and embarrassing. He walked right into a police
station holding a box of donuts to turn himself
in. Because apparently he understood that he
was having them. Problem there, but he was charged
with theft and criminal trespassing But a viral
image of him holding a donut box in the police
station became an unforgettable moment like so
Here's the evidence. I'm gonna turn myself in
and here's the evidence I feel like he was doing
that to make a statement or something like that.
I feel like there was more to the story, but
that's all that I got from this story. But either
that or he was intoxicated on something. I'm
just like, you know what? I'm going to take the
pig some some donuts. I don't know. But I just
thought it was funny because Donut Box podcast.
We've got to include that. All right. In 2023,
a suspect in a robbery attempt decided to flee
the scene by pouring motor oil on himself to
slip through the fingers of police. While it
sounds like a genius plan, he left a greasy trail
all the way down the street, which led the cop
straight to him. And he was arrested for robbery
because he ended up robbing a home. Apparently,
this is something you can get charged for. Are
you ready for this? Creating a hazardous spill.
That's something in the state of New Jersey that
you can get charged for, but creating a hazardous
spill and resisting arrest. The whole thing was
he robbed somebody's house, he covered himself
with motor oil, and then went down the street.
Apparently, he did not live very far. He went
less than a block and went to another home. Uh,
it just goes without saying, you know, most of
the time with home evasions and things like that,
it is somebody who's in the area typically, but
could you imagine like it just, they just led
straight to pour, you know, he poured butter
on himself. So he just led them right to him.
What it made me think of when you read that,
it made me think of the greased up deaf guy from
Family Guy. It's great. I love that. It's so
messed up, but that bit chills me every time.
So this next story actually includes me. Did
you know your boy almost got arrested this week?
Oh, for what? Plane spotting at an Air Force
base. Wouldn't you know it? Well, I wouldn't
say I almost got arrested, but I had to include
it in the jail report here. So what's funny is
I've been, if you follow my other page, Fly Guy
Micah, you'll see a lot of, you know, Air Force
footage and things like that. I do have certain
access to the Air Force base and things like
that, but I've never had a problem until last
Tuesday. So I was out there last Tuesday at the
foot of the runway, right? And what I think is
hilarious is, so there's two types of cops out
there. You can't even really refer to this one
as a cop, but there's the little security guard
that is like the third party security company.
And then there's the military police. The military
police don't care. What's funny is they ride
past all the time and I'm just like, Hey, and
they're just like, Hey, and then they don't care.
They have no, they have no care. But I just had
to tell this story. So this lady comes up and
she pulls up in her little, uh, essentially she's
like a mall cop. Pretty much except they're called
allied security and they pull up and so this
lady pulls up and she was the short hair Bulldog
looking lady, right? And I like wave at her as
she's getting out and she just gives me a scout
I'm like, oh boy, she gonna cause a problem and
she comes out there and she's like help you sir
And so I told her I said I'm just out here watching
planes and she goes you can't be photographing
the planes I said, oh, I didn't know it was a
problem. I didn't know it was an issue. I don't
see a sign or anything out here. And this is
a public street and everything like that. And
she got real angry and she said, I'm in the planes.
She got real mad. And I said, well, it's OK.
I got a badge and everything. You want to see
my badge? And she says, I'm going to call you
into my supervisor. Okay. So she calls me into
the supervisor. She goes, yeah, I caught this
man over here. She said where I was at. It's
like he was outside the fence. What I thought
was funny is the verbiage. Like I caught him,
caught him. And it's like, yeah, you caught me,
Skippy. I didn't run or nothing. I was just standing
there on the concrete. Just like, Hey, how you
doing? But you caught me. But she was like, she's
like, I caught this man on the street over here
watching planes and the The supervisor literally
gets back to her and says well was he like within
the fence and she's no no He's like well, and
I don't really I don't I don't mind that like
just take a picture of his car Take a picture
of him and like we'll run a little background
check right quick And I was like and I had already
told her like hey if you want to see my badge
because I work Just over here like here. I'll
show you my badge. I guess you didn't hear me
And so I was like, do you want to see my badge?
She's like, yeah, so we'll take a picture of
it So I pull up my bad and she goes you're part
of the government. Oh I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
She started apologizing. And the funniest thing,
bro, she all of a sudden just loosened up and
she goes, I love planes. Planes are my favorite
thing. This is just one of the best jobs I've
ever had. I just love sitting out here watching
planes. Isn't it just so great to watch planes?
You're a fellow plane spotter too. And she just,
she just loosened up so fast. And I was just
like, yeah, no, planes are cool. And she was
like, she was like, yeah, well, anytime I see
you now, I'm a wave at you. I'm just like, oh,
okay. That's fine. But it was just funny how
she came out and she was just so angry at first.
She was like, you gotta be taking pictures of
the plane. You thought she was about to like
poop herself. She was so mad. And then all of
a sudden, this is like the moment I flashed that
badge. Oh, oh, oh, I love plane. Okay. It was
great. All right. Last story. Sorry. I had to
include that one in there because I, you never
know how those things are going to go about.
I've been stopped by the cops. I don't know how
many times watching planes and you never know
how those things are going to go. Yep. But I
thought that was pretty funny. And then the last
one, this is kind of a circle back. So early,
early in our podcast here, season one, actually,
we talked about Cain Velasquez and he's a former
MMA fighter, heavyweight, and he was a belt holder
there for a while. I'm going to go through his
story just a little bit here. And just because
we're going to put this on YouTube and things
like that, I'm going to have to be careful with
the verbiage or else they'll remove the video
and whatnot. So Velasquez was accused of shooting
a pickup truck that was carrying this guy who
was also accused of a little bit of a crime involving
his four year old son, where there was some malicious
activity as far as you could probably read between
the lines. at a daycare facility. And so Mr.
Velasquez shot at the vehicle and there was an
11 mile car chase in 2022 where this guy and
his stepfather was driving and all this other
stuff. So Velasquez actually just received five
years in prison for that crime. And Chris, I
just kind of wanted to circle back. We talked
about this during the time and, you know, Some
of these stories that we talk about in the jail
report are funny. This one, not so much, but
how do you feel about that? Five years for having
something malicious happen to your child, a very
small child. You know, the justice system is
something and I understand that maybe violence
is never the answer and whatnot, but how do you
feel about this? So it's funny. I actually saw
a comedian make a comp like he wasn't doing a
comedy special But he was actually commenting
on it and if you don't if you most people know
the whole thing about Cain Velasquez most if
you know You know what happened to his son and
it was atrocious And so the guy that I heard
Gary Owen he was saying like you can't have the
wild wild west where people are out here having
Street justice But at the same time if what happened
to his son like happened then you can't blame
the man because the man was like, I think, I
don't know, give the man a year for firing a
gun in public, maybe give him a year probation.
I don't know. But I think, I think five years
is really steep. I think that's really steep
just to be shooting a gun in public and everything.
Because I mean, really and truly, like, I know
we have to let the judicial system do its work
and stuff, but it's... That happened to my kid?
Oh, you best believe. I'm going after that person.
It's hard not to as a father. I don't know. I
feel like that is pretty steep. I think what's
hard too is the guy who is a suspect here, he
still has that criminal trial for this case,
which he's pleaded not guilty for. He's still
awaiting until June the 2nd. And so he's bailed
out. So he's been a free man since 2022 after
potentially committing this crime. And so, you
know, you got to let the justice system do its
work. But at the same time, as a father, I'm,
and I'm not a father yet, but even knowing like,
Hey, if I had kids, if I'm out on the street,
This guy is a free man after doing that to my
kid and I know what I know kind of thing. And
I see him on the street. I mean, I'm not blaming
the guy. You know, I do think that we do have
room in our judicial system to say, you know
what, I understand these things. Again, probation,
house arrest, give the guy therapy. Like there
are state sanction therapy sessions that they
can say, you know what, I can understand why
you and your family would have a hard time, you
know. put them through something like that or
some sort of program on that front. I don't think
prison and jail is the option because obviously
the guy is not a bad guy. It's just something
extremely horrendous happened to his family.
Yeah. No, no, no, no. I'm talking about Cain
Velasquez. You know, when it comes to the perpetrator
who did this to Cain Velasquez son, he'll get
whatever justice comes to him. I'm sure in the
judicial system, I hope. I really do. But at
the same time, when it comes to Cain Velasquez,
you know, for shooting at him in public, it's
one of those things of I feel like it's there's
room in our judicial system going back to where
there are understandable things to where prison
is not the best choice. It doesn't mean that
he's a bad person. I mean, inherently, men, we
are the defenders of our family. And so if something
happens to our family, like we're going to want
to defend them. And so I I'm not saying that
violence is the best option, but at the same
time, in this case, it's a little different,
I feel like. I would say too, I think it'd be
different circumstances if Kane had fired the
gun in public and someone had been injured from
that or someone had died, then okay, yeah, we'll
talk about prison time. Because again, negligence
of, you know, shooting a firearm in public. Like
he's mad, he's in the heat of the moment. Like,
you know, he's only seeing red and there is like,
Hey, there is a responsibility that you have
to have to make sure innocent bystanders don't
get injured too. But at the same time, like,
I don't know. It's a really hard one. Yeah. It's,
it's hard because it's, it's the moral dilemma
behind it versus the, you know, what do you do
as a society? where's the line? And, you know,
there's no clear lines in this one, which is
unfortunate, but I just wanted to bring that
one up because it does kind of come full circle
because we talked about this in a jail report
very early on in our podcast, like very early
on. Third or fourth, no, third or fifth episode
or something like it was... Think about that
in season one and we've gone, you know, we're
in season four now and it just, it also shows
how long our judicial system takes, which is...
unfortunate too. It really shouldn't take this
long, which we can get into all that. But anyways,
I just wanted to bring that one up just because
that one settled here this week. Hopefully he
has, I didn't read if he had a chance for parole
sooner. Hopefully maybe he can get off a little
quicker and things like that. But the report
that I also heard, and I'm not sure how true
this is because of course this is hearsay and
whatnot, but apparently the judge was teary -eyed
when he gave the verdict of, or like gave the
the sentencing and things like that, as in didn't
necessarily want to do it. But hey, you got an
obligation to the state kind of thing. So it's
a hard one. It is a hard one. So good luck to
Cain Velasquez. And we hope that justice is also
done on the other end, you know, if the man is
truly guilty, which it sounds like he would be.
So anyways, the very, very last one here. I snuck
that one in there, but we have to talk about
the ketchup bandit. Back to the one in the intro,
the ketchup bandit stealing condiments. So in
2023, a man in Ohio was arrested for stealing
over 200 pounds of ketchup from various fast
food restaurants in the Cleveland area. And when
he was asked why he said he had a ketchup addiction.
Now this was over the course of three months.
Think about that. 200 pounds of ketchup. How
do you steal 200 pounds of ketchup? I don't think
it's that hard. Like if they come in big bags
or something. He said that, and according to
the statement here in the police report, apparently
he was not just stealing the packets. He was
going to fast food places, fast food places.
It's all kind of subjective of what you call
fast food, but he was going to fast food places
that had the actual like bottles of ketchup.
And so he would go table to table and steal the
bottles of ketchup. And so, but he said he had
a ketchup addiction and so he was charged with
theft. and vandalism and trespassing. And so
the reason he was eventually caught, nobody really
knew who was still in the catch -up. And, you
know, after working in a restaurant, I'm sure
people probably didn't care. It was probably
the managers who cared. They'd probably be like,
who the heck's still in our catch -up? But the
reason that he was caught was he was attempting
to break into a restaurant's supply room. at
one point, and that's when he was caught on camera
and everything else. And so apparently just stealing
the ketchup that was out there on the tables
was not enough. So he tried to break into the
supply room and steal the ketchup. So my question
is, is like, there's got to be some psychological
addiction to ketchup or meaning why behind it?
Because no one is just addicted to something
like that. Like any addiction, like I okay here
I get it like if you're addicted to alcohol or
drug like I get it You're trying to numb something
like I get that but like ketchup Ketchup isn't
gonna do anything for you. I don't know what
the deal is Maybe it's a you know, then it's
just speculation. I don't know the rest of the
story behind this but Maybe it's a almost like
a kleptomaniac thing. Like it's not necessarily
just the ketchup but it's the sensation of stealing
things and being able to get away with it and
okay I stole all this ketchup from this place
I you know I don't know because this is just
what he said when he got arrested And, you know,
sometimes if you're a kleptomaniac or you have
something going on and maybe it's undiagnosed
or maybe, you know, some of these people don't
even think about why they're doing some of this
stuff. They just like have this compulsion to
do something. Maybe when he got arrested, he
was just like, I guess I'm addicted to ketchup.
And that's what ended up happening. But really
and truly it's about the act of stealing it or
it's about, I don't know, some sort of rush that
he gets from stealing ketchup. And then he's
like, okay, this is my hot dog. And he's putting
it, it's like this. ketchup I didn't pay for.
You know, some people are, they got some weird
stuff going on, man. But the ketchup bandit there,
he stole all this ketchup, which was wild. But
there you go. But anyways, that was our jail
report. Had to end off on a positive note after
we went a little deep on the Cain Velasquez thing.
But all right, man, you ready to move on to our
next segment? Our next segment is the donut hole.
which is a quiz this week. I feel like it's always
quizzes now used to be just random, but hey,
it's a quiz now. So these are slogans and jingles
from our childhood being millennials all the
way up to now. So we can have things all the
way from the nineties all the way till now. So
you're going to tell me the brand or company
that the jingles or slogans came from. So I'm
going to tell you the slogan. You're going to
tell me the brand or the company. So the first
one that we have this, which brand uses the slogan
because you're worth it? Is it A, Maybelline,
B, L 'Oreal, C, Revlon, or D, Cover Girl? L 'Oreal.
Yep. Because you're worth it. Yep. So apparently
the marketing worked on that one. I guess. Did
you ever, um, the only reason I chose this one
is because for the longest time when I was a
kid, like I knew I had this, I had like this
shampoo that had like, it looked like a parrot
or something. It was like green and it had like
an eyeball on it. And it was like a L 'Oreal
like kid shampoo. And then I remember visiting
other people's houses and like a bunch of kids
had the same kind of shampoo. Did you ever had
that like L 'Oreal shampoo that had a little
eye on it and whatnot? Heck no. No? We weren't,
we didn't have the nice enough L 'Oreal. No L
'Oreal stuff? We had D 'Oreal, that's what we
had. You know what's funny? I actually worked
at Papa John's and there was this girl in the
back and her name was L 'Oreal. Anyways, uh,
all right. So the second one here, what is the
slogan? Melts in your mouth, not in your hands.
Where does that slogan come from? Is it A. Skittles,
B. Reese's, C. M &M's or D. Snickers. Now this
one's kind of an older one. That's melts in your
mouth, not in your hands. M &M's. There you go.
Yep. That was M &M's. So you're two for two.
This one's probably going to be an easy one.
Which company popularized the jingle? I'm loving
it. You're probably even telling me without even...
There you go, McDonald's. I'm loving it. Can
I just say I miss the days of mascots like Burger
King, Ronald Mc... I miss those days and there's
no mascots anymore. Bro, McDonald's used to have
a full lineup of mascots. Like it wasn't just
Ronald McDonald's. You had the Hamburglar...
Marimus? Grimace you had all of theirs like hamburger
grimace who is the other one there was like there's
a girl. There was a girl in there too. Like Helen
McLuckin or something, I don't know. Yeah, the
chicken one. I remember that one. Yeah, yeah.
There was a whole lineup. There was a whole lineup
of mascots. And now, because even back then,
like, and I know that it's different now because
Walmart don't do the thing with McDonald's no
more and whatnot. But I remember having the benches
with Ronald McDonald sitting there and you could
like sit next to Ronald McDonald on the bench.
You remember that? Anything no more. Okay, which
car brand is associated with this slogan the
ultimate driving machine? Is that Mercedes Benz?
Is that Audi is that BMW or is that Lexus? I
want to say BMW BMW the ultimate driving machine.
Yep. That's right. That's right. All right, man,
you four for four All right Now this one is a
modern one here, but it's been, it's been for
a little bit now. What does have it your way?
Where is that slogan? What company is that? Burger
King, Burger King, which Burger King done fell
off. And there's, I don't know about where you're
at, but a lot of them are closing in my area.
But what I think is interesting about their marketing
scheme now is a lot of their songs, I wouldn't
say is off key, but it's not traditional. Like
it's kind of. The music is not like the lyrics.
But even like the beginning, it's like Burger
King offers great fries. It's kind of like off.
It's not exactly like on key. Exactly. It's kind
of goofy compared to, you know, typical marketing.
So I don't know, but it works because you, you
remember it. That's all that matters. I don't
know if that's an actual one, but I just made
that up. I made mine up too. I don't know what
that, I almost said like something about waffle
fries. I'm like, that definitely ain't Burger
King. All right. The next one here, which brand
slogan is just do it? I'm sure you know this
one too. Nike. Yeah, Nike's had that one for,
apparently they've had that since 2003. That's
been one since 2003. So that's been out there
for quite a while. Let's see here. All right.
So the next one here, this one is an older one.
So this was one that came from our childhood.
Which brand used the tagline? Can you hear me
now? Verizon, there you go. It was Verizon. Yep.
And then that, could you hear me now guy? He
switched to sprint years later. I remember that.
Everybody was like, that guy switched. That guy
switched. Yeah, it was a whole thing, man. But
see, it's, it's interesting. The younger generations
wouldn't, wouldn't even know. They'd be like,
who's that guy? What, what, what significance
does he have? And then, you know, it was going
back to the Verizon. Can you hear me now? It
was also, I remember raising the bar was a big
one back then at AT &T. Um, all right. The Quicker
Pipper, Jesus, I can't even talk. The Quicker
Picker Upper. Who's that? Downey? It's Bounty,
man. Listen, I know that you used to work for
the grocery store chains here, but, uh, so Bounty
was probably. You know, everybody knows about
Bounty. Everybody knows about Charmin. Do you
know, did you see people buying Viva and Scott?
Do you remember those? Scott? No. Actually, Viva
sold more than Bounty. Really? Viva was a pretty
big seller. Bounty, I think maybe it was because
of the packaging we had, but yeah. Viva sold
more than Bounty. Maybe it's because it was kind
of that green. Maybe it's kind of... Maybe it's
kind of that green packaging. I don't know, but
you said you wouldn't really move bounty I know
Charmin was a big one, but this because they
always Yeah, but they also had I feel like they
had like Charmin was a pretty big Charmin was
a pretty big seller. I paper towels Yeah, Charmin
would always go Charmin was like the number one
seller Angel saw Nobody really bought Scott.
It was and then it was like the grocery store
brand Yeah, whatever the the value brand was
that same comes off the same assembly line just
different All right, which brand used the logo.
Maybe she's born with it. Maybe it's Wait, what?
And the slogan is maybe she's born with it. Maybe
it's blank That's either a cover girl be L 'Oreal
see Maybelline or D st. Lauder cover cover girl
Nah, man, it's maybe she's born with it. Maybe
it's Maybelline I Don't know the fact that you
know that Makes too much TV as a kid man. She's
talking about you know what I'm gonna be good.
I'm not gonna say nothing. I'm not gonna say
nothing You're about to roast me. Oh now I'm
going back to the middle school boys camping
trip. Okay. All right. All right Dirty. All right.
Let's see. Which company's slogan was think different.
It was just think different. It's A, Apple, B,
Microsoft, C, IBM, or D, Samsung. Ooh. I'm going
to go with Apple. It was Apple. Yep. It was Apple.
That was the slogan was think different. I was
talking about IBM for a minute, but I was like,
no, Apple. Um, this next one, you probably know
because you wanted to be one for a very brief
extent there. The few, the proud, the blank.
The Marines. Yeah. That's just Rangers. What's
their slogan? One riot, one Ranger. Yeah, there
you go. No, I wasn't that one, but the few that
were out of the Marines. And I remember my boy
Chris, he came to church one Sunday, shaved his
hair off. Like, what's going on with you, buddy?
Are you doing the Britney Spears thing? It's
like, no, I want to be a Marine. Oh, okay. And
I could do 20 Marine style pull -ups. I can maybe
do about 10 of those now. Yeah. It's different.
I couldn't do maybe five of them. So there you
go. This one is a little bit of an older one.
Which fast food chain had the slogan, Where's
the beef? Was it A, McDonald's, B, Wendy's, C?
Yeah, it was Wendy's. It was Wendy's head. Where's
the beef? When I first put this quiz together,
I was sitting here going, Where's the beef? I
don't know why I thought that maybe that was
Arby's. But then I was like, no, we have the
meat. We have the meat. That one's Arby's. That
doesn't make any sense to me. But we have the
meats. You just sell roast beef. That's all you
sell. And not even good roast beef. Apparently,
they sell a whole bunch of other stuff. There's
like turkey and all sorts of crap that they put
on there. When was the last time you went into
Arby's and it was popping? Let me ask you this.
When was the last time I went into Arby's? Period.
Like, I mean, my thing is I'm not as into Arby's
though. Every now and then she'd be like, can
you give me Arby's? And I'd be like, I think
it's to curly fries. And when we worked at boot
corral, I would often go to Arby's for lunch
because it was right there. Yeah, that's all
I was going to say. It was like around the corner.
And when you only have 30 minutes for lunch,
it's like, bro, you got to, you got to go somewhere
quick. That's why I always went to Subway because
Subway was up the road when we worked at boot
crowd. It's like, listen, you got to go real
quick. All right. Which slogan is this for? Bet
you can't eat just one. Pringles. That actually
is Lay's, my man. Lay's was bet you can't eat
just one. Are you sure it's Lay's? It's not Pringles?
Yeah. It's Lay's. Was Pringles an option on there?
Pringles was an option on there, but when I was
putting the quiz together, it says Lays. This
one, you probably know this one. I added this
one just because of the office. It's not the
same one that they talk about in the office,
but have a break, have a blank. Have a piece
of that Kit Kat bar. Yeah, which everyone like
everyone thinks that's so funny like when Andy
does that and I never got that joke I never thought
that joke was funny Football cream. Yeah, he's
like trying to figure out the bar thing That
joke that joke never made sense to me like it.
I think some people find it funny I don't find
it funny as bad as it is just aggravated me because
I'm like, it's obviously KitKat. Everybody knows
everybody's KitKat um all right so next one here
this one's actually the last one that i have
here and so you you got the chance to go 15 for
15 well actually you got one i missed two you
missed two oh yeah you missed two you missed
two okay 13 out of 15 potentially here which
is still a great average but 15 and i know you're
probably going to get this one snap crackle pop
is who i was going to say never mind i'm not
going to say it rice krispies There you go. I'm
really after we get done with this podcast, you're
gonna tell me what you were gonna say for snap
crackle pop. That middle, dude, we went in on
that middle school boy segment and now my brain
is middle school boy brain. Yeah, exactly. Talking
about that. Let's see. Let's see. Let me see
if I have one for you. Gives you wings. Red Bull.
There you go. Okay. That's actually one that
I took off because I was like, man, that was
too, like some of these were easy, but I was
like, yeah. The other one that I thought about
that I did not add on this one was what can Brown
do for you? That's UPS. That was UPS back in
the day, which I always thought was a goofy slogan.
It makes sense, but it was a pretty goofy slogan.
Going back to the middle school boy brain, I
remember making lots of jokes of what can Brown
do for you. Anyways, so let's move on to our
next segment. If you're ready, man, speaking
of what Brown could do for you, especially piss
you off when they don't deliver your packages.
And what fries my donuts? And Chris, you kind
of alluded to it in the intro. What fries your
donuts, buddy? Yeah. So number one, I'm going
to... Prelude it with this. I was at a coffee
shop the other day and this is why it started
to get me think about it for frying me up I was
at a coffee shop the other day and I was like
doing you know working from the coffee shop because
we have like Every last day of the month we do
work from like a remote area Okay, so I was in
the coffee shop minding my own business like
doing all my stuff. Whatever I had my headphones
on so I wasn't listening anyway, and there's
this group of college kids You could tell they
were a study group, right? So they were studying
all that stuff, paid them no mind. But I went
to go leave and I took my headphones off and
I heard them have this conversation. And have
you ever met those college kids that like they
think because they took one class in psychology
and they're like, again, they're like those hipster
college kids who are like, yeah, man, like we
totally need to be down with the patriarchy.
Like, and it's like. I was listening to this
conversation of these college kids and they were
like, yeah, I'm just so tired of these movie
tropes. We're like, we're glorifying the American
soldiers, dude. And like, really what we're doing
is like, we're protecting abusers and this and
that's like, okay. I hear what you're saying,
but half of you, what you're saying, you have
no life experience to back any of this up. You
can tell these college kids, they just love talking
about theories and ideas, but you can hear it
in these certain college kids' voice. They've
taken one class of sociology or psychology, and
now they think they know everything. They're
like, yeah, we got to take the system down, man.
They almost have this condescending tone when
they... talk like have you noticed that it's
like these college kids that go into these coffee
shops and I'm not saying all of them but they're
like they have these ideas and they're like yeah
man like the I just I hate capitalism like socialism
is the way to go and it's like Yeah, like socialism
and theory, right? Sounds good. But really, you
haven't lived any of this out. Like you've never
probably had a real job. You never had to pay
bills. You don't really know how the world works.
I'm OK if you have those beliefs. I'm not. That's
not what I'm saying. What my frustration is,
is when you do not have life experience to back
these theories up and you're just simply spouting
these theories off just because they sound good
to you. If you believe that and you have life
experience and you walk through some things and
you actually believe that, there are some people
that I know that they actually believe that and
I can tell they believe it because the way that
they back it up and they be like, you know why?
This is why I believe this because I've done
X, Y, and Z. I've lived through this way and
this is my view on things. Okay, that's your
belief system. Back you up on it. But what I'm
talking about is these college kids that don't
know nothing and have no life experience and
now they're just talking in generalities or saying
things that just sound good. Well, ain't no backing,
man. And these are the same people that will
stay in college for 10, 15 years. And I'm not
talking mess about this stuff, but I've lived
in two college towns in my life. I've lived in
Lubbock, Texas, which is not quite a college
town, but it is at the same time. And I lived
in San Marcos, Texas. And that is definitely
a college town. Like there is nothing else going
on in that town besides the college. And I will
say this, go into the coffee shops there. Oh
yeah. It's definitely like that. And these people
are straight up pretentious. I know exactly what
you're talking about. They're straight up pretentious
in what they believe in and a lot of it, what
they do. And for example, I used to go on campus
to Texas state and things like that. And there
was this, I almost call it like the free speech
courtyard. It's next to the student union, but
basically anybody could spout off anything that
they want to spout off. And a lot of these people.
Now you would have a good amount of right -wingers
out there that's like women should be in the
kitchen shouldn't even be in school But then
you have just like all the way the opposite front
to where it's like communism is the best and
everything like that But a lot of these people
thinking like Chris is talking about has never
actually like the only thing that they have seen
is their protected little bubble from when they
lived at home and they went to college and college
they're like I can I can be in my free speech
world now and I could piss off my mom and dad
by saying whatever I want to say now and so it's
like okay I can I can do whatever I want to do
and so they're exploring this freedom they find
a friend group and a lot of times his friend
group or They're radical. Let's be real. They're
pretty radical on one side and But they don't
know what they're talking about. It sounds good
in theory. They're just like, oh, yeah, okay
Yeah, communism is great. Socialism is great
totalitarianism is great Like everything would
be fantastic if we were all on one major pool
if we were all living in one major commune But
if that was the case, they would hate their lives
like they would hate their lives. Absolutely,
but And what ends up happening is they get out
of college, they graduate, they go get a job.
And then after they get a job, they realize that
wasn't what I thought it was supposed to be or,
oh, that wouldn't actually work because of this.
And some people actually stick into it. But what
ends up happening is they end up being the bitter
people that just don't ever do anything with
their lives. And they keep preaching this stuff.
But then when you press them on it, they have
no clue why they're actually pressing on this
stuff. And so. What I said at the beginning about
a lot of these people stay in school I feel like
a lot of these people stay in school because
that's their comfortable spot It's actually easy
to be in college for them because all they have
to do is go to their classes Somebody else is
paying their tuition for them so they can go
and free speech all they want they can hang out
with the people that they want and it's an easy
time compared to when they were at home and they
were told what to believe now they can believe
what they want with no consequence, but if they
get out on their own and they're with a job,
they can't say these things at a job. They can't
do these things at a job. And so, but I get what
you're saying. It's just, they get together and
it's like a little political rally. You're sitting
at the freaking. coffee shop and they're just
like, yeah, we're going to stand up for it. And
I know you're not a Monty Python fan. Like I
know you're not, but I think what's funny, we
watched Life of Brian before, right? And they
were sitting there and it was like the, the group
that they had was the, the Judean people's front.
You know, and it's like, they really don't know
what they're fighting for. All they know is they
hate the Romans, right? They just hate the Romans.
That's all that they know, but they have zero
action to back it up. And then when it comes
to time, they're just like, we don't really know
what to do because we just know that we hate
the Romans and that's it. And it's because somebody
told us to, and that's about it. It's just, it's
just no guidance, but belief. The thing that
I get frustrated is these people. they're they're
pretentious and they're angry and they like they're
angry at you for not believing the way they do
and they like almost try to force it on you and
i'm like okay if you believe what you believe
any set of values instead of belief i feel like
you need to have some kind of reasoning or life
experience or something to back it up some kind
of reasoning if you can say this is why i believe
what i believe and these are the reasons why
i may not agree with what you believe but i can
be like okay this is what you believe versus,
like you said, I'm only in my little protected
bubble and college is my safe space. Same thing
on the other end of the spectrum. I can, and
I always tie things back to faith because I'm
a person of faith, right? But like, if you have
never gone through anything hard, you've only
lived in mommy and daddy's sheltered little bubble,
never had to go anything hard, and then you're
like, Preaching about how yeah, Jesus is with
you and the hard things like you've never had
to go through anything hard So I'm not gonna
like I'm not gonna it's gonna be harder for me
to believe you right like or even even what bothers
me Especially people in the south. I've heard
scriptures and sermons about like the Christian
Church is persecuted. It's like Not here, we're
not. You've never been persecuted. It's like,
dude, go to China, go to Eastern Asia. They're
the ones being persecuted. They're the ones at
risk of death. That's persecution. But anyways,
continue. And so I feel like a lot of what I'm
talking about, these people want attention, right?
They want just to get attention out of it. And
on the other end, I saw this actually today when
I was downtown, but I saw this guy and he was
wearing this big shirt and it was like sparkly
and I said, Jesus is the only way, right? And
he was up talking to like this couple on a bench
and I was like, okay, cool. But like literally
right like five feet away, he had a guy filming
him, like filming him and it was to be put on
social media and that bugs though. fire out of
me like I'm like okay if you're wanting to spread
the gospel like okay but what I what I get mad
about is are you filling this to put on social
media so you can get more views Like, no, that's
absolutely not. It's like the attention's on
you, not on the message that you're spreading.
And so I don't like that either way. I don't
like you trying to just say you believe in something
just so you can look cool, appear cool, sound
smarter than you think you are. It's that pretentiousness.
It reminds me of Brian from Family Guy. Like,
I couldn't stand that guy. and quagmire called
him out on it because it's like you say you believe
all these things but when it comes to the action
you're not gonna do anything about it kind of
like what you said it just really prides my donuts
and when i was walking away i was like okay you're
19 years old you don't know what you're talking
about but like you can't tell them that you can't
sell them because then they're gonna turn it
on you was like you did it so i just like part
of the problem you're the ones part of the problem
you're part of the white male picture and it's
like Bro, I'm just here to do my work. It's like,
dude, you don't know me. It's like, I love everybody
equally. I don't think anything else about anything.
And, you know, going back to people having life
experiences, we know somebody who is actively
believes in communist values, right? But at the
same time, the guy that we talked about. He not
only went through college, he was in the military
for a little bit of time and things like that.
It's like, dude, if you went through the military
and it's like, listen, I don't think capitalism
is cool because I've faced it head on and I saw
exactly what capitalism does on the back end.
Hey man, if that's what you want to believe,
that's on you. I think it's a little extreme
and I don't believe in it myself, but at the
same time, hey, you went through the things to
see those things. So if that's how you want to
feel, that's how you feel, man. Like I'm not
going to say nay. But a lot of the times it's,
you know, these people have a view on society
and you're going, you don't have a place to have
a view on society because you're not technically
a part of society yet and you haven't given anything
to society yet. I know it sounds bad and I never
thought I'd be this kind of person, but to those
people that you're talking about, it's like,
dude, you haven't, you haven't gone, you haven't
had to scrounge for housing. You haven't had
a scrounge for jobs. You haven't had to pay taxes.
You haven't had to do the stuff that we have.
If you go through all those things and you're
like, man, socialism is the way to go. I got
nothing for you. I'm like, Hey, if that's how
you want to believe, that's how you want to believe.
But at the same time, if you're in this little
protected little bubble. And you haven't seen
an outside of that. And a lot of these people,
they just want to cause trouble. Like a lot of
times I've seen. And I'm going to go really political
here, but a lot of the folks that you see that
are protesting about what's going on in Gaza.
I understand why there is a protest about that
Israel versus Palestine and all this other stuff.
It's been age old debate. It's been forever and
it's going to continue because if you read the
Bible, that is always going to continue. It's
always going to be a hot bed. It's always going
to be what happens. I get that. But at the same
time, a lot of these people are like, there's
persecution going on there. But at the same time,
they're throwing chairs through windows and all
sorts of stuff. And it's like, are you any better
than what you're trying to fight against? I don't
understand this. So there's a lot of that that
goes on of it's an excuse to, we all have angst
within us. We all have, Hey, we want to act out
and we want to do these things. Going back to
being in college and being in this protected
bubble, college is a different time. When you
get away from your parents, you can do these
things. If you want to throw chairs through windows,
you can. You get to go to jail too, but at the
same time, you can do these things. And so I
feel like a lot of these people, they get out
there and they're just like, you know what? Now
I can do this stuff. So I will, even if they
believe it or not. And it's kind of, it's really
ridiculous. We can go on and on about this, but
yeah. And even like when Even being a young,
like when I was 19, 20, like even coming back
to my faith, like I had some really, I don't
know, bad views, but probably bad views, but
like judges, I would make judgments about people
and I'd be like, oh, if you're, if you're going
through depression or anxiety, it's because you're
not spiritual enough or not praying enough. And
I had that view of people. I really thought that.
Cause you don't have the faith of God. Until
I actually went through battling with depression
and anxiety and all those things It changed my
view because I was like, you know what like it's
not just a spiritual issue Sometimes it's a mental
issue. Sometimes it's a chemical issue something
like it changed my view so like the view and
judgments I had of other people like now like
my view is shifted and Within that realm like
I still believe what I believe about like faith
and Jesus everything but when it comes to like
That thing, my view has totally shifted to where
it's like, no, because I lived that and went
through experience, it's like, oh, okay, now
I'm not so quick to judge other people. I think
a lot of that man is too, you have to be open
-minded enough to say there is maybe what I know
is not a hundred percent of what I know. And
I know at age 19, 20, and when you're in college,
you think you know everything. Like I know that
that is also a thing, but at the same time, there's
also a time where There is the decisions of you
start going through some of the stuff that you
say, I kind of judge people or I thought differently
on these things. And there is a choice where
people can either say, okay, I understand where
these people are coming from and I'm going to
change my viewpoint. Or the ego takes over and
the pride takes over and says, you know what?
I've been thinking this way so long. I'm going
to stick to this path, even though I've been
through it. I don't go through that. I don't
know what you're talking about. You're just,
you're just weak and things like that. And I've
seen so many times where people will take that
other course because it's a lot easier instead
of working on yourself and saying, Hey, the open
-minded approach and saying, Hey, I was wrong
for this and I shouldn't think this way. Prime
example, I used to think personally when I was
19 and 20, I used to think because Hillary Clinton
was running for president, right? And I remember
telling my now wife and telling her like, listen,
women should never be president. That should
never happen. Like that is just not something
that should happen. And she asked me why she's
like, why is that a viewpoint of yours? And I
started thinking it's like, because that's what
I was told to think. And I made the conscious
decision of. Okay. I've had bosses who are women.
I've had other people who are in leadership that
are women. It's not any different than being
a man. Like it is a little different, but it's
not any sort of different. Do I believe that
that's? you know, would be a detriment. Some
people do. Some people are like, oh man, having
a woman would be terrible. It's like, there's
plenty of countries out there that have had women
prime ministers, women president to this point,
and they haven't burned down around them like
I thought they like, like I've been told they
would. So maybe I'm wrong. Right? Maybe I'm wrong
and maybe I should be more open about this. And
so it's, you know, everybody gets that branching
point. And I think the people that we're talking
about a lot of the times, even when they do start
going through this sort of thing, some people
do take the option and say, okay, I'm a little
bit more open -minded. But a lot of these people
are like, ooh, yeah, no, I'm going to pretend
like I didn't see none of that. We're going to
keep going this way and I'm going to be, and
this is my viewpoint, no matter what. Even though
I'm proved wrong a thousand times over, this
is the way that I'm going to think. And it's,
you know, and it's like these other people are
the problem. And again, both sides of the spectrum
are doing the same thing. And yes, both of them
are being the problem. But again, it's all about,
again, what do we always come back to? It's always
about being in the balance point of life of where's
the balance and everything. If you're way too
far this way, it's one way. If you're way too
far this way, it's another way. You got to be
balanced and everything, I think. Yeah. And there
are core beliefs that like, you have that I feel
like you can't, like you can't compromise or
you can't, if that's a core belief, like you
can't just compromise on those. Right, right,
right. And so I could go in a whole nother tangent
about... I know we're opening a whole can of
can of stuff here. this one priest was like,
he's like, yeah, there's been a lot of people
who just have a problem with the word savior
at our church. And we're just thinking about
changing the word savior. It's like, Jesus isn't
really the savior. He's more of a guide. And
it's like, okay, homie, now we're changing the
whole, like that part. When it comes to like,
hey, I'm going to relate to you or how I treat,
even if I treat you, even if I disagree with
you, right, in your belief, still being open,
you know what, I'm gonna at least hear you out
and I'm gonna hear your belief and maybe I'll
learn why you think that way and maybe when I
walk away I'll go, huh, that's an interesting
thing. I don't believe that but it was interesting
to learn so you can always learn stuff from other
people. Last thing I'm gonna say on this and
we'll move on is I think we have we've talked
about this before a societal divide Whereas people
are so divided to where we don't feel like there
can be a middle ground It's either I have to
be one way or I have to be the other and so When
people start talking about their opinions or
beliefs, a lot of people won't even listen because
they're like, oh, you're on the opposite end
of the front. I'm not supposed to like you, or
I'm not supposed to like that opinion. I'm not
even going to listen to it. But at the same time,
talking about being open -minded. If you listen
to their opinions and you go, you know what,
that makes some sort of sense. You don't have
to a hundred percent agree with them, but you
can at least find some common ground and say,
you know what? I do understand why you think
that way. I don't think that way, and here's
why. And, you know, I think society would be
in a lot better place if the other person would
sit there and say, Okay. I also understand why
you're on the opposite end of the fence here,
but I also understand why you're there because
we all have different life experiences. We all
have different life experiences, or even what
Chris is talking about, lack of life experiences
that lead them to this. Maybe it's some professor
out there that said something at some point.
It's like, Hey, that makes sense to me, but you've
never been out there. Right. So that's what's
shaping your opinion and shaping a group of people's
opinions. But then all of a sudden it's like,
Nah, I've been there and I'll tell you how it
is. But if you're not open -minded and you go,
that's foolishness, that's garbage, that's garbage.
Then, you know, it'll always, trust me, growing
up in the South, I've seen so many people's opinions
get shaped off of just nonsense. And they're
just like, oh, that's just garbage, that's just
garbage, that's just garbage. And it's like,
are you even listening to the other side? Because
it's not too outlandish to see that it's not.
That they're not evil like you think they are
or whatever. So that's a whole thing, man. Apparently
you had a good one fries my donuts because we
went a whole tangent on that. But that's okay.
We'll transition into a better segment. Yeah,
man. So we'll transition into our better segment,
which is our eclair segment or our positive advice.
And so Chris, I went first last time. So if you
want to go ahead and give the positive advice
for the week on this Monday, go ahead. And I
feel like A lot of what I've been talking about
in my positive advice in this season is what
I'm learning. So when I'm talking about this,
I'm not talking at you, I'm talking to you and
with you because I'm walking through this the
same. But you have to, at some point, you have
to make an effort for your own healing, right?
Like you have to make an effort to try to have
healing. Everyone has trauma. Everyone has hangups.
Everyone has triggers. And I know in today's
world, it's cliche like, oh, that's so traumatizing
and this and that. And so I'm not trying to minimize
the trauma. Everybody has trauma, OK? Everyone
has things that they're dealing with, working
through, have been through. But at some point
in your life, you have to decide, OK, yes, I
went through that. It was bad. And now what am
I going to do with it? Because here's the thing,
I've seen so many people who are like, oh, well,
that's just a trigger for me. And yeah, it can
be a trigger for you for a little bit, but for
their whole life, they keep that as a trigger.
And it's not everybody's responsibility to tiptoe
around your triggers or to read your mind about
what your triggers are. Like you don't, people
don't know, they're not mind readers, but whatever
you don't deal with, you're going to take with
you. And so a lot of people think, oh, if I just
move, to a new city it's going to be better or
if I get another job it's going to be better
or oh if I just get in this new relationship
it's going to be but you know who you're taking
with you you're taking you and you got your own
problem is you got your own crap like you have
your own trauma and if you don't deal with that
it's going to bleed into other areas of your
life and so it's healthy to deal with it get
healing whether it's journaling whether it's
talking with a therapist whatever it is but make
an effort to try to heal that because it's okay
to sit with it and it's okay to be like yeah
that was traumatizing i've been hurt by this
but if you sit for that too long if you have
a wound open for too long it's going to get infected
and if it gets infected it's going to spread
deal with it help heal from it and yeah Yeah,
and I don't know why I want to follow up with
that. That's a very good good word man because
On the other front of that man. It's a talent
waiting to bloom I feel like that is just a talent
that's waiting to bloom because out of so many
traumas that I've had That I've seen Chris have
that I've seen so many other people have they
turn it into you face those things and it turns
into something beautiful out of the corners that
it was. And it turns into something that could
bless and help other people. And so it's either
turns into a detriment or it turns into a blessing.
Like there's no in between there. And so I don't
know who I'm talking to with that one, but I
just felt like I wanted to say that too. So um
for mine it's kind of the same thing i know i've
been preaching a lot of somewhat around this
here but patience patience is key it's so easy
to not be patient there are so many things in
my own life right now that i'm just like man
i want this thing to happen right now let's just
happen right now but it's not the time It's not
the time for this to happen and just like Chris
talked about maybe it's traumas that you're going
through Maybe it's you know life lessons that
you have to go through just because you're going
through lessons Doesn't mean it's because of
some sort of trauma that happened a lot of times
Yes, maybe but other lessons that you're going
through might not have been born a trauma But
they're just lessons you have to go through Maybe
you're you think you're ready for something,
but you're not ready for it But at the same time
you have to open yourself up to be ready when
the time comes and what does that mean growing
and progressing and so the going back to what
I was saying is just patience being slow with
it. It doesn't something I've been learning over
time is I get just naturally and I'm being very
transparent here. You get jealous of those people
who have the very quick success or the very quick
tangible, hey, I can see what they're doing a
lot better than I am at a certain area or whatever.
And you're like, why am I not there? I put so
much more work than they have and things like
that. Flashing the pans. And I'm going to use
football analogies here too. You can have those
flashing the pan years where those guys are good
for one year, but then all of a sudden they suck.
For years to come, a lot of times flashing the
pans, they don't last, but the things that are
meant to last, it takes a long time to build.
When you're building something that's worthwhile,
you have to set the foundation. You have to build
the frame around the house. You have to put the
walls up. You have to do the interior. You have
to do the plumbing, the electrical, the everything.
And so anytime you build something, you have
to think about it like building a house. And
anytime you build a house, think about. Think
about if you were going to go buy a house and
you're like, man, would you buy the house that
was put up in a week or would you buy the house
that was put up in six months? I know for me,
I'd go, I don't know about the one that was put
up in a week because I know that they were probably
cutting corners and trying to get it done as
fast as possible. But the one that was there
in six months, I know that they did everything
in their power to make sure that everything was
up to code and everything was perfect. So just
think about that. And think about the fact that
Rome wasn't built in the day. So all that to
say this, just keep patient. Everything that
you're building is worthwhile. You're almost
there. And even if you're not almost there, just
think about the next step that's there in front
of you. And so patience is key. And that's my
eclair for the week. I heard John Maxwell say,
guys that get put in the Hall of Fame, they don't
get put in the Hall of Fame because they hit
four home runs in one game once. They did it
because they kept doing it consistently, right?
So you want to be a Hall of Famer, like you got
to keep showing up. You got to keep doing the
thing consistent, like day in and day out. Takes
years, right? Because it takes years for those
guys to get in the Hall of Fame, right? Like
even after they're fired, like even years after
that. But yeah, man, good work. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Well, man, it's been a great episode. I can't
believe we've already wrapped up. We're almost
at an hour and 30 minutes, which I remember those
days when we were doing 40 minute episodes and
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that? Georgia Dome in the first episode. You
know what? The Georgia Dome? Nah, I'm joking.
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