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So, Micah, I have to add another chapter or another saying to the man code book.

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I gotta add it.

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What's the new man code?

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I'm sure it's one of these unwritten ones that nobody talks about but should be in place

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or already is, but what is it?

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What's up?

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Man code number 157.

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A man shall not let another man put license plates on his car.

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I was at the dealership trying to get my license plate and they were like, yeah, we can get

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this service guy to put them on for you and I'm like, nah, I'm okay.

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They're like, are you sure?

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And I was like, nah, I'm not gonna let another man put my license plates on.

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That's not right.

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You should be able to put your own license plate on your car.

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Listen, man, it's a couple screws.

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It's like, give me the license plate.

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I got it, you know, and here's the thing.

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I think that's a test of anything, right?

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And what I don't like about dealerships is they be making assumptions about you.

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They'd be like, oh, I don't think this guy really does it.

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It's like, bro, Ben, give me that license plate.

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I've got me a Phillips head in the car.

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It's like, I will literally put that thing on right now.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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I was thinking about that.

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I was like, that's one that needs to be added to like the man code.

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The same thing about like not talking to each other in the urinals.

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That's one that needs to be added is like, nah, you're not gonna let another man put your

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license plates on.

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And I know you may be thinking, that's toxic, masculine, you know, it's not, you should

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be able to put two screws on the freaking license.

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Now what do you say about like changing your own tire?

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Like for me, like call AAA for other things, but changing your own tire, no, sir, like

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I feel like you should be able to do that on your own, especially if you got a spare

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and everything's in right working order, which again, that's also a test.

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It's like being prepared in those moments.

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Yeah, I think so, unless it's in the situation where the bolt is just too tight and it won't

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come off the car, then yeah, like maybe get some help getting the bolts loosened.

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But just to sit there and watch somebody else change your own tire for you.

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Yeah, you need, you need some help.

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You need to let everyone should be able to learn how to change a tire.

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I don't care if you're a guy or a girl, everyone should know.

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We're extending if you're driving a motor vehicle, you should know how to do it.

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I'm going to extend this for another two seconds.

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My thing is, have you ever sat there and like maybe it's my ego, but like I will try that

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bolt for hours before I call somebody.

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Like, I know that's pretty bad, but it's like, it's like, listen, I'm going to get this

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thing off and a lot of times it just takes a lot of persistence, but like I've been there

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for a long time doing that.

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I don't know about you.

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Oh, I usually use like physics.

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So I kind of get the, the, if it's that, that crowbar, I get it to where it's like kind

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of at like the poker point and then I just kind of like jump on the, but I'm a, I'm

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a kind of a lighter guy.

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So I just jump on the thing and then it usually loosens up for me.

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Man, I've had that, but I've had rusted bolts too.

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And I'm telling you, it's been a combination of doing that in WD 40 for a long time.

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And it's not a fun thing.

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Well, I'm Chris and I'm like, and this is the donut box podcast.

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Welcome to another week, another episode.

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What's shaking?

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You know, I had a Ted talk for the elderly this week.

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That was kind of interesting.

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Not really a Ted talk, but I gave them a little seminar about cybersecurity.

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A seminar about cybersecurity.

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And I think they understood it because it started a fight.

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So that was great.

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Oh, you're going to have to expound on that.

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Man.

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So I was actually explaining cybersecurity and AI and we get into the subject of AI,

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at which of course, you know, AI is kind of that weird thing that not a lot of people

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understand, but you hear a lot of things about.

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And so I kind of just went into a brief deal, showed them chat GPT, kind of some of the

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features that it had, and immediately the room broke into two camps.

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What about kids even learn it nowadays?

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And then the other side of the room is like, Hey, that's pretty cool.

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That would have saved me so much time at work.

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Do you know how many letters I had to type on the typewriter and how many things I had

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to dictate and all this other stuff.

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that for you in just a few seconds.

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It's like, yep, I am.

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And they just, they were mind blown by that.

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So yeah, it was, it was like, I guess, I guess it went well.

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And these people are stingy, man.

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They will walk out on you if it's not good.

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So it's like, I, nobody walked out.

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So that was like, I, I consider it went pretty well, I guess I'm going to be on that personal

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care home tour very soon.

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You know what I mean?

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All across the country.

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Yeah.

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The gray hair comedy tour.

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I love it.

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Set up the blue collar comedy tour.

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It's the gray hair comedy tour.

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Yeah, it's great.

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But man, we have a really good podcast this week.

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We're back to our free flow and we're just chilling, man.

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We're chilling.

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And what we're having today is, you know, I don't know how you formatted yours.

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We've been just kind of asking each other questions and interviewing each other.

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I've really formatted mine with, would you rather questions?

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I've got a bunch of those and I know you got some questions for me too.

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So man, do you want to get cracking?

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I'm kind of a thought-provoking, more thought-provoking questions for you.

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And again, Mike and I have been friends for 21 years, but there's always stuff I get to

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learn about him.

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And I'm pretty sure I've asked this before on a previous podcast.

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So if I have, please forgive me.

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But what is something that people like underestimate you on?

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Like they, you're like, hey, like I usually put people, I prove people wrong about this

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I think a lot of times it's being too nice or like people take my kindness for weakness,

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I have that happen like a ton.

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And so I think for me, it's because he's nice, he's just going to let whatever fly.

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And yeah, that don't happen.

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It's like, especially over the years, I've learned how to lay down boundaries and say,

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nope, we're not going to let that stuff fly.

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And so I think that's one of the biggest things about me.

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And then something else that I've had randomly.

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I've had four people in my life randomly just be like, you know, you have a face that I

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just want to punch.

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I don't know why.

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And like people have just told me that.

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So apparently I have a face that people just want to punch.

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That's something, something else on top of that.

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Is there like a skill set that maybe you have that people are like, oh, wow, I didn't know

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Micah could do that.

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That I know of?

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No, not really.

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I think, man, I think everybody on the podcast knows pretty much everything.

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I pretty much just love planes and football.

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It's kind of, it's kind of the two main deals.

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Like there's a few side things, but like anything else, I don't know if there's like any hidden

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talents there or anything.

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I will say there is one thing that people kind of underestimate you on.

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And please, I hope you take this as a compliment, not as an insult, but I think people underestimate

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how like intelligent you really are.

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It's not that like you come off as dumb or anything, but like when you look at you, you're

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kind of like, oh, this is this nice and goofy guy, but they don't really know how intelligent

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you are until they start talking to you for a while and start getting to know you.

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So I think that's something that people underestimate you is how smart you really are and how intelligent

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you are and kind of how your brain works a little bit different.

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What are you saying?

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I look stupid or something?

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No, I'm joking.

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That's not what I'm saying.

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I'm just giving you a compliment.

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No, I'm joking.

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That's cool.

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I know I totally get you.

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It is very true.

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There are a lot of people that for some reason do underestimate how intelligent I could be

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and things like that, which I mean, they're lost.

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But what about you, man?

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What do you feel?

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I think maybe I've said this before, but people when I get like on a microphone and speak,

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people are like, wow, I didn't know that came out of him.

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And it's like, yeah, they just kind of underestimate me and that or just like my ability to, I

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guess, achieve things just from looking at me.

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I guess because I'm a smaller guy, because I'm quiet, a lot of people would think, oh,

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yeah, that guy is kind of just maybe on the back burner.

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But I feel like I've kind of been underestimated my whole life.

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And especially when I worked with little guys, movers, people underestimated how strong I

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really was.

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They were like, oh, yeah, there's no way you're picking that up.

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You're going to struggle.

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And I don't know how you can lift that.

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And then I would lift it every single time.

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And so I think that's one thing that people, people also underestimate the thug and me,

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boy, that Atlanta comes out sometimes, bro.

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It just comes out and I can't help it.

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People would look at me like, oh, really?

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And it's like, I didn't know he jammed a TI like that.

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I didn't know he jammed usher like that.

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And I'm like, yeah, man, I jam him like that.

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It's because you got so much talent on the stage, but at the same time, you could be

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chill outside of that.

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And it's cool because you're multi-dimensional and not a lot of people are.

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What you see is what you get from a lot of people.

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And so kind of having, I wouldn't say multiple faces, because of course, the whole two-faced

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thing sounds bad.

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But you know what I mean, just having you on the side versus professional you and can

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delineate those things, that's a talent a lot of people want to have and don't have.

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So that's good.

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But I will say this, on your strength, jeez, I will attest to this.

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This man is pretty dang strong.

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I've moved with him a few times.

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And I mean, he's got, you look at him and he does have little stature, but dude's all

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muscle.

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I mean, I don't think you got an ounce of fat on your body.

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It's just all muscle.

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and stuff like that taught us technique over the years.

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And I think that really helped over time.

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But yeah, like this dude's strong.

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Like a lot of people underestimate that.

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Let me ask just one more follow-up question.

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What would you say your superpower is?

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Like, if you say, man, I'm really good at X, this is my superpower.

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Man, we've kind of, we've kind of talked about this.

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And I know this sounds kind of weird, but like, call it gift of prophecy, call it whatever.

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But like, man, my gut is really wrong.

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And that's, I don't know, gift of perception or like gift of kind of knowing what's around

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the corner.

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Now I'm not sitting here saying like, Oh, I can predict the future.

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Now I wish that'd be great if you could predict the future and stuff like that.

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But no, I can't do that.

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But it's just one of those things through a series of maybe dreams or feelings or things

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like that.

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You kind of see what's coming around the corner and what's, I don't know.

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Like, and for me, I feel like that's kind of, I don't know if that's necessarily a talent,

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but it's definitely helped me over the years.

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I would say that.

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And like, if I had some, if I had to say like, yeah, that's something that's really strong.

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And again, it's just really benefited me over the years, almost like a superpower.

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Definitely that.

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For the first, would you rather question?

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So you went for deep philosophical questions.

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I'm just, would you rather, would you rather always have to go places and sing instead

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of speaking or dance everywhere you went?

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Oh, that's a tough one.

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Maybe dance because I'm like, the singing is like if a high school musical.

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Man, nobody.

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Music rules were like a real life thing.

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And you just all of a sudden break out in a song.

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That gets on people's nerves.

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Like more, more than dancing does.

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Trust me, we've all been in the water burger at 10 o'clock after a theater shows let out

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and all the theater kids are singing their crap.

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We've been there.

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We don't want to see it anymore.

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Like I know what you mean.

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Yeah.

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No, I get you.

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I think for me, I think it's probably the same thing.

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I'm a terrible dancer.

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I'm also a terrible singer.

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So you know, it's kind of a pick your poison, but at least singing, I feel like I'm more

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embarrassed about if I have to sing in front of people, I'm way more embarrassed about

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that than having to dance in front of people.

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I can kind of make some stuff up on the fly dancing wise.

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Cool.

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They'll back to switching gears back to the serious question.

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I think we're going to be a good cop, bad cop or serious cop and silly cop today.

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But yeah, I guess.

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That is something in your life that maybe was a failure or it didn't work out.

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And at the time you were like, oh man, like this broke my heart.

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But looking back on it, you're like, I'm glad that failed or I'm glad this didn't work out.

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We're going to go into X's on the podcast.

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My ex-girlfriend, man.

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That's the first thing that comes to my mind.

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You know about it.

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But for those of you on the podcast who don't know, man, it was a rough journey and I was

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able to get out of it.

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And I remember at the time really asking God, like, man, why did this not work out?

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Because to save you all a really long story, basically her stepfather passed away and I

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kind of like she was living at home with her folks and whatnot at the time.

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And they were very old school Mexican.

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They were from Mexico, right?

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And they were very old school.

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And that old school principle is like the ladies stayed at home and the guys went out

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work.

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And I was the guy being there.

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I was the only one.

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And I was living there without living there, if that makes sense.

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And so, but it was like, OK, well, somebody's got to make the money.

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And so I started picking up like 16 hour shifts and things like that and to make ends meet

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for these guys and come to find out she ended up cheating on me during that time.

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And the excuse was because you never around.

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That was the thing.

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It's like, yeah, because I'm having to work for everybody around here.

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And unfortunately, you watch cheaters.

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That's a lot of what happens, even though some of them are fake.

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But like the real ones is like, yeah, I've been there.

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But anyways, so that happened, right?

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And but like I thought at the time, naive self, like I thought like this was the one.

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This is the one that I'm going to marry.

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And so like, you know, you got to forgive and stuff like that.

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And so I tried to make it work.

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And like it just wasn't working, right?

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It just was not working at all.

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And you know, I was just kind of asking God, like, man, why is this not working?

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And it just became very clear because it's not the right thing to do.

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And you know, at the time, I did not see that at all.

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But it was just like, let time play out and see what happens.

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And you know, that's when I end up meeting my wife.

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So it ended up working out, you know what I mean?

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And I had to get past that.

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But at the time, man, I thought, why, why in the heck is this happening?

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You know, like this doesn't make any sense.

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I thought this was the woman you brought me.

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And but, you know, when you're in that kind of toxic relationship,

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you miss a lot of those red flags, you know what I'm saying?

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Everybody's got to go through that.

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And you look back on it later.

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You're like, thank you, Lord, that I dodged the bullet.

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And so, yeah, for sure, man.

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And I know that was a very rough time for you.

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And, you know, we've talked similar about our similar stories.

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But man, thankful for the failures that at the time seem like failures.

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But you look back and you're like, thankful that happened for sure.

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Yeah, heck, get out of that situation.

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And, you know, I got to shout up my our good buddy, Adrian,

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which we know he's listening.

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But you know what?

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We got to shout him out because this man gave me a nice conversation.

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And he told me how it was.

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And I'll never forget that about her.

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And, you know, it's one of those things.

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A lot of times when people in bad relationships, there are very few people

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that will tell you actually what's going on and be straight up with you.

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And those are your homies, right?

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And I'm telling you, like Chris tried to tell me, Adrian tried to tell me.

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And so I'll never forget that.

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But Adrian's conversation.

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I love the way he if I could approach more people like Adrian, it'd be great.

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Anyways.

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All right.

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So my next question, switching back to a lighter subject here.

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Would you rather have the ability to fly, but it's only for 10 minutes a day.

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So like 10 minutes every 24 hours or be invisible, but that's only while you're eating.

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Um, I would probably.

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Go.

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So can I like grab a bag of chips and walk and eat and then be invisible?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think I would take the invisible thing.

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I don't really know why I would want to be invisible because that was never like a,

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hey, that's what I want as a superpower.

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But if you're only going to fly 10 minutes a day, I don't think it's worth it.

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You don't think it's worth it for 10 minutes?

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No, not for 10 minutes.

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Man, I'm just saying, if you want to stay invisible for a long period of time,

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one, you got to pick a food that is not like you said chips.

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Like, yeah, you'd be invisible if people still hear you crunching.

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And then two, you got to like get something to where it'll last you a while.

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Like, and I know we're going in on this, but my mind always delves in.

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Is it only while you're chewing?

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Like, could you do chewing gum and would you keep going like stuff like that?

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I don't, I don't know.

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But I don't know for myself, of course, I like to fly.

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So I'm just like fly 10 minutes a day.

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Be my best 10 minutes of every day.

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This one is kind of a lighter one.

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If you had money or connections or whatever, and you could get involved in any business

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or maybe like cause or anything like that, what business or company would you want to be like involved in?

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Like you, you're, you're like co-owner, you're invested, your, your hands are in.

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Oh man, they're very easy choices.

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So you're saying if I'm a billionaire or had connections and it's just like, hey, we're going to do something.

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One, it's going to be a sports team of some kind.

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Two, it's going to be an airline.

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One of the two, those are the two businesses I'm interested in.

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And my thing is it's like I could, airline is tough though.

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I don't know if I'd want to do that sports, probably better.

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Cause as an owner, you can sit in the box and enjoy every well, unless you're a loser team.

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But I guess I'd probably want to do sports team more than airline.

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Airline sounds good in theory.

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I feel like if you don't feel like it's just a volatile business to run though.

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So it's better in theory than in reality, but a sports team for sure.

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I don't know, like NFL or NBA, you know me.

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I'd get involved with the WWE, you know, you know, I would.

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I'd be right there with triple H.

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Here's my question though.

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If you had enough money, would you make another, would you make another wrestling company

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like that would rival WWE and AEW?

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No, I don't think I would because WWE does so many things that work so well.

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And like to start another wrestling promotion, like you can have the talent,

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but you really need like the bookers, you need the road people.

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Like there's so many behind the scenes stuff.

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Like I just want to get on board with WWE and be like, all right, like I like what's

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already built.

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Let's try to change it and make it go forward.

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I just want to be involved, to be honest with you.

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So you just like you like listen Saudis or because it wasn't the company that bought

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them the same one from the WWE that bought Zufa.

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I think they're from Saudi Arabia.

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It's like, listen, I'm going to buy it from you guys.

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You need more money than the folks in Saudi, Chris, to do this.

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Who else is involved?

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Isn't now he's involved in the other one, the Jaguar owner son.

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Oh, yeah, Nick, not Nick, Tony Khan.

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Yeah, he's involved in AEW.

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OK, yep, you are right.

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Would you rather live in a world where it rained all the time or would you rather

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live in a world where it never rained?

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Like right now where I live at.

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Is that what you're asking?

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Would I rather live in Lubbock all the time or what?

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Because it never rains here.

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It rains like maybe three times, four times a year.

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I guess the rain, but they say like when it rains all the time, it is depressing.

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But I do like the rain.

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But here's my question.

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Like when we lived in Augusta, I feel like in the summertime,

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it was like almost every day there'd be like storm or a shower or something like that.

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Now, that is definitely different than having it all the stinking time.

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But I did enjoy having a lot more rain than I mean, even down here, it doesn't rain a ton.

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So it's like I do kind of miss that aspect.

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So I think I would choose the rain as well.

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My questions are going short.

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I guess would you rather questions are short, but good thing I have a lot of.

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Now, I know that probably whatever age you were, when you were a kid or maybe a teenager,

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every kid has that dream of like being in the NFL and all that.

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So let's just say we live in a perfect world where Micah played football in high school and college, got drafted.

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How do you think that world would play out?

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Like what position do you think you'd play?

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What team would you like think you'd be drafted to?

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And how do you think your life would play out if you got drafted to the NFL?

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If it was idealistic, well, I mean, idealistic is always like, OK, super talented.

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Like you were all American in high school, like all American in college.

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So I'm thinking like first round draft pick and heck, yes, I'm a quarterback.

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Like who wouldn't choose that position, right?

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And who would I get chosen by in the draft?

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Man, it'd probably be somebody that sucked.

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Like the first person that comes to mind is like the Jets, because that's what always happens with first rounders,

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especially if you're really good. You go to Cleveland or the Jets or trying to think of some other really, really bad teams.

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I can't say Detroit anymore, because they're actually fairly decent, but you get my drift.

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You go, you go somewhere pretty bad.

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So my guess would be the Jets or the Browns.

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I get beat up for a few years and I get traded over to a team that's actually worth something and make a career out of it.

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Like I don't know.

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And then, of course, idealistic, you want to imagine that it's, you know, 15 to 20 years worth.

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And you do the Tom Brady s things.

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But if you're in a more realistic world, I mean, even quarterbacks, if you start,

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you might be hot a few years and then you might tank it.

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So I mean, realistic, it'd probably be like five years.

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Do you think it'd be weird whenever you would play as yourself?

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And that is, yeah, I've always thought about that, or even like college football now with name, image and likeness on the college football games.

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It's the same names and they're, you know, some of them, the more popular players are modeled after you.

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So if you play college football, you'll see your own name on the depth chart and plays yourself, which has to be very, very odd.

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I think that's got to be weird.

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I never got dreamed of being drafted in the NFL, but definitely drafted in the major leagues.

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And for sure, not a pitcher.

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You know, I would probably want to be like either center field or one of those places and left to right field.

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You just want to, you want to be a hitter.

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That's what you wanted.

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I love the Braves.

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So, you know, at the time I wanted to be a drafted to the Braves, but either the Braves or the Rangers, I like both those teams.

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So yeah, I think that would be pretty good.

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Yeah.

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Back out.

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If I had a choice of where I got drafted in the NFL, maybe not Miami, but give me like a Florida team.

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Give me Tampa.

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I'm still, I'm still like, yeah, give me Tampa.

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Tampa would be a nice place to live and play, I think.

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That's why Tom Brady went there because no, no state income tax on all that money and you get to be in Florida.

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Speaking of, it's funny that you brought up an NFL question.

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My next one is an NFL question as well.

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Would you rather have a prime Tony Romo on the Cowboys like what he was absolutely at his best or a 40 year old Aaron Rodgers as your quarterback?

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I think I'm picking 40 year old Aaron Rodgers.

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That's what I'm taking.

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You think so?

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You're taking 40 year old Rodgers?

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Yeah, because honestly, I think Tony Romo at his best, he wasn't a leader, man.

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Tony Romo wasn't a leader.

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I can at least say Aaron Rodgers is a leader and I think that's what you really need as a quarterback to help make your team better.

466
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,200
Because you can be like a great quarterback, but if you're not a leader, like y'all aren't winning nothing.

467
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:45,200
Yeah, it's just hard for me taking Rodgers with some of the stuff that he's been, you know, some of the on the field stuff and then off the field.

468
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:54,200
I think you'd be, it's hard because the management side of me knows that he'd be a hard to deal with and at 40, he doesn't have that much time left.

469
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,200
I would try to take my chances with Romo and get him aligned and see what happens.

470
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,200
My question is, next question, this is kind of a lighter question.

471
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:22,200
What is a like some, not big things, but maybe some little things that people do that annoy you, whether it's like crunching sounds, clicking the pan, a certain smells, like what are some little things that you're just like, oh, that annoys me.

472
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,200
Playing phone videos out loud.

473
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,200
That's one of the biggest things for me.

474
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,200
I can't stand that stuff.

475
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:34,200
Also, people like biting their nails. That gets me. I don't know. It really, it really gets me.

476
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,200
Yeah, I guess those are the biggest two things that come to my mind.

477
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:45,200
It's people, again, it's mainly people that's like, you could totally put in headphones, but they don't, especially on planes and in airports.

478
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:50,200
That seems to happen a lot, where people just play their videos out loud and don't really care.

479
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:57,200
And especially when you have like a bunch of them all playing together, that's what used to drive me nuts back on to the golden crown of Augusta.

480
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,200
You had all that rap music playing on top of each other.

481
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:06,200
And it's just like, I'm good with the good rap song, but not when there's 30 different ones playing out loud on your cell phone.

482
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,200
Like, it's just not good.

483
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:16,200
Mine is, is when you're in a public place and you take your shoes off and you're walking around with bare feet, like in the office.

484
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,200
Who the heck does that?

485
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:22,200
I can name one person, well, I can't name them on this podcast, but I'll tell you after the podcast.

486
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,200
I gotta walk around.

487
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,200
I gotta guess.

488
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:30,200
My place of employment on a Sunday morning with no shoes.

489
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:37,200
Man, I, you know, some people are cool with walking barefoot places. I am not one of those people.

490
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,200
Do you know how dirty some of these places are?

491
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,200
In your own home, it's fine, but in public places, no.

492
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:47,200
Like my thing is, and especially because at your own home, you know how often you clean and what you do.

493
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,200
Like it even bothers me getting to my socks in the airport.

494
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,200
Like I don't see how some of these people are like, oh yeah, I'll just wear flip flops and go barefoot.

495
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,200
It's like, do you know how many people walk through here with their dirty behind shoes?

496
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,200
Like, why would you want to do that?

497
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:04,200
It's like, that's just asking to get fungi and all sorts of crap all over yourself.

498
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,200
I don't, I don't play with none of that.

499
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,200
I can't, yeah, that bothers me.

500
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:16,200
Something else that bothers me is people who don't necessarily, how do I put this?

501
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,200
They don't know, they're not aware of their surroundings.

502
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:26,200
And so maybe they're talking to the person next to them and I don't know, call me old fashioned.

503
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:31,200
But when you're in front of children or things like that, I really don't think that you should be like,

504
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:36,200
extremely like just talking about certain things or cussing in front of their face.

505
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,200
Like kids already get enough crap from the internet and stuff like that.

506
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,200
And it's another thing where like, I was, where was I at the other day?

507
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,200
I was at a restaurant, I think or something.

508
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:53,200
And there was one table and it was, and it was just like, yeah, I told that F and B of my ex-wife that she needs to go to, you know,

509
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,200
and like she, he was just going on and on and on.

510
00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,200
And there was this kid sitting across the table, like on a different table.

511
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:07,200
And you could just tell maybe this kid is just not used to cussing and stuff like that, but his eyes were like so big, like, holy crap.

512
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,200
He's like, holy crap, that guy is going off.

513
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,200
But it was just like, it was obvious that like everybody was just uncomfortable, you know what I mean?

514
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,200
And he was just being very obnoxious.

515
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,200
And it was just like, I don't care if you have those conversations, I really don't.

516
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:26,200
And I don't care if you use that kind of language, but maybe let's not have the whole restaurant hear about that.

517
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,200
You know what I mean?

518
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:33,200
And he said, I told my ex-wife to go to H-E-L-L double hockey sticks.

519
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,200
You know what they call it, Michael Scott.

520
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,200
H-E double hockey sticks, yeah.

521
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,200
Remember what you people used to say?

522
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,200
And he's like, H-E double hockey sticks.

523
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,200
H-E double hockey sticks.

524
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,200
For sure.

525
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,200
I'm telling you, dude, it was, it was wild.

526
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:54,200
Bro, we've been, we went out to a couple of restaurants here lately and like, typically if we get food, like we'll bring it in.

527
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,200
But like, we've went to a few restaurants, man, the people watching has been great.

528
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,200
I don't know.

529
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,200
Me and my wife have hardly had to say anything.

530
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,200
We just watch people and see, like, it's, it's wonderful.

531
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,200
Oh, do you like to make up stories about them?

532
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,200
I like to make up stories about those people, the people and be like, oh yeah.

533
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:22,200
Like, I mean, you do this sometimes and most of the time, like it's like, I don't want to say get the prophecy, but that gift of the service, like, oh yeah, you can tell they're all, they're on a date and they're both married to other people.

534
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,200
Or, oh yeah, this or that.

535
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,200
That happened today.

536
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:45,200
Me and my wife were at lunch over here and at this Mexican food place over here and we were sitting there in this, there was a guy named Gal and I told like, Megadine were, because you don't want to like talk about it out again, you know, making sure that you're not, you don't want to be obnoxious to be like, yeah, those people are talking about this.

537
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:56,200
So we were texting back and forth and I texted her, I was like, oh yeah, I could tell that they worked together, but they, you know, they were side pieces for each other because each one of them was talking about their sp...

538
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:01,200
And then all of a sudden they started talking about their spouses and then they had like other girlfriends and boyfriends and stuff.

539
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:07,200
They were talking about like other people and stuff and it was just like, yeah, my daughter doesn't really like my other girlfriend.

540
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:16,200
And it's like, yeah, because you're married and they were like talking about it just like, okay, well text me when you're off and I'll go over to your place.

541
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,200
And I was just like, yep, found it. It was, it was great.

542
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,200
Like that stuff, I don't know.

543
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,200
Sometimes they just tell you their whole life story too.

544
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,200
You don't have to make nothing up for them.

545
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,200
They'll just tell you, like you just listen to you hear all about it.

546
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,200
It's free entertainment.

547
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,200
Yeah, it is.

548
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:35,200
Hey, if you're going to put it out there in public, I might as well, might as well listen to dinner and to show or in this case, lunch and to show.

549
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:42,200
Next question, would you rather be 10 minutes late always or always be 45 minutes early?

550
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:47,200
45 minutes early. I hate being late. You know me. I hate being late.

551
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:53,200
Like that's just, I don't know what that is about me, but even if I'm 10 minutes late, I just can't do it.

552
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,200
And I'd rather be somewhere early. I can find something.

553
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,200
For me, the 45 minute part is what kills me.

554
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,200
I can't, I really don't like being somewhere that early, especially, you know, when you're in a relationship.

555
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,200
You know, when you get there and it's like they're still setting stuff up or whatever.

556
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,200
I don't like that either.

557
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,200
But I totally get, I totally get what you're saying.

558
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,200
Has there ever been an occasion where you did show up extremely early?

559
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:22,200
No, because usually I try to not ever be the first person there.

560
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:28,200
If it's like a social gathering, I know it's probably like social anxiety, but I kind of like scope it out.

561
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:35,200
Like so even if I'm early, like I'll drive around the block like a few times and then be like, oh, is there another car there?

562
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:42,200
Okay, cool deal. And so if I'm like, oh, there's no other cars here. I know I'm super early and no sir.

563
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,200
And it's just like, yeah, I'm not going in there. I totally get you.

564
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:52,200
I remember the earliest time I was ever somewhere was I got to school and this was the earliest I'd ever showed up to school.

565
00:31:52,200 --> 00:32:01,200
For some reason, my male parental unit, it was icy and snowy outside and for Georgia, that is very, very, that doesn't happen very much, right?

566
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,200
But it wasn't bad enough to shut down the schools.

567
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:11,200
And so I remember he was like, yeah, I'm going to take you because the roads are like the, you know, everybody's going to be all messed up on the roads and everything.

568
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:17,200
So he brought me to school and it was six in the morning and school didn't start till 745.

569
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,200
And I remember getting there and like kind of like Chris said, I had to wait outside.

570
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,200
Like I remember waiting outside and they had to like open the school up. It was dark out and everything.

571
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,200
I remember being so early and like the teacher was like, what are you doing here so early?

572
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,200
I'm like, my day had dropped me off. I said that the roads were going to be too bad.

573
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,200
This is at a Mount elementary school?

574
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,200
No, this is at high school. This is high school.

575
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:44,200
Oh, high school. Okay. So there was a little bit of drive. I was like, if it was elementary school, you could have just walked there.

576
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:49,200
Yeah. Yeah. No elementary school. I could have walked there. Middle school. I definitely couldn't have walked there.

577
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:55,200
You know what I think is wild, man? And I know we're going on a weird tangent and maybe I've never said this on the podcast,

578
00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:05,200
but it's it's weird that I'm going to be able to tell my kids like, yeah, I went to a middle school that was a former, like it was so old that it was a former segregated school.

579
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:10,200
Like there was a plaque about it and stuff. Like that's kind of weird to think about. I don't know.

580
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:15,200
I don't think about that too. And then the high school was kind of the same way. Like the main part was from the sixties.

581
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:22,200
So weird, weird place. But anyways. Okay. What is a guilty pleasure show that you like to watch?

582
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:32,200
Maybe it's with your wife, but you don't necessarily, when people ask your favorite show, you don't mention that one because you're like, oh, this is kind of a guilty pleasure show.

583
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,200
Or I know I'm going to get judged if I say I like the show.

584
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,200
I'm like, stay space, stay space, by the way. And then you're going to make me say it on the podcast here. Now,

585
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:48,200
People don't know you like that. Some of my, I think only murders in the building, but that's not one that I'm like ashamed to say anything about.

586
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:56,200
That's not a guilty pleasure show. There's a lot of people like that. I don't know if I necessarily have one because all of my shows that I'd be liking to watch.

587
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:02,200
I'm just like, now the only one that I do be getting some weird looks at, and this is kind of different than what you're asking though,

588
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:10,200
is people will be like, what football games are you watching? And typically I will be, it'll be like, I'm watching Idaho versus Idaho State this weekend.

589
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:17,200
And people will be like, do what? Why, why those two? And it's like, well, it's an in-state rivalry. I don't care if they're good, bad, or indifferent.

590
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:27,200
If it's like they're an in-state rivalry, there are certain ones that I watch every single year. And it's kind of like, even if both teams haven't won a game to this point, I'll watch it.

591
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,200
It's kind of different.

592
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:36,200
So I'm going to tell you mine, and no judgment. I already went on record saying I like Billie eyelash, so I guess it's okay. All bets are off.

593
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:42,200
My secret guilty pleasure show, I'm going to say it on the podcast, is married at first sight.

594
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,200
Oh, okay.

595
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:52,200
Yeah. I get invested in the couples, man. And I'm like, oh yeah, I hope Jasmine and John work out. They seem like they're so great.

596
00:34:52,200 --> 00:35:01,200
And I was like, are they going to get divorced? And I'm like, man, I don't know. He's really treating her pretty bad. I was like, I hope they stay together though and work it out.

597
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,200
Man, it's not as bad as like The Bachelor or Bachelorette. It's not that bad.

598
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:12,200
And I will admit, I have seen some Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, but I don't like that show.

599
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:17,200
What was the one that my wife wanted me to watch? I love you, honey.

600
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:23,200
She was, well, we were watching it one time. What is it called? Oh, Love and Hip Hop.

601
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:31,200
Like that was one that we watched. And I was just like, I found out so much stuff about the rappers that from my childhood that I was just like, this dude is soft.

602
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:40,200
Like that's what I found out about that. Because I found out about Lil Scrappy. I was like, that dude, that dude was nothing like I thought it was going to be.

603
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,200
That dude's soft. That dude's a mama's boy, is what he is.

604
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:48,200
Anyways, here we are over here in Salt Lake. Oh, Lil Scrappy.

605
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:55,200
This one, this next one's kind of a weird question, dog. So sometimes my brain works in a weird way. So just forgive me.

606
00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:04,200
Would you rather have to fight one horse-sized duck or 100 duck-sized horses?

607
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:09,200
100 duck-sized horses. A horse-sized duck? Ducks are mean.

608
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:18,200
Ducks are mean. And could you imagine how, you know, if it's a horse-sized with horse strength? Oh, yeah. You got problems. I think you got problems.

609
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,200
I'm not fighting that duck.

610
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:27,200
Like, I mean, don't get me wrong. It probably hurt for hundreds of them thing to attack you and like kick your legs or something.

611
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,200
But you could always, you know, with one sweep of the foot, I feel like you could take a bunch out.

612
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:37,200
So again, I don't know why my mind thinks of these questions sometimes, but go ahead. What's the next one?

613
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:48,200
Is it always like one book or play that you read in high school that really like it impacted you or it really challenged you to think about things in a different way?

614
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:57,200
Believe it or not, I still don't understand why I really like Julius Caesar. Like, I really like Julius Caesar. I don't know why.

615
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:09,200
But I like the whole storyline and the betrayal and just, it was, I guess what I found very interesting is before that, yeah, I learned about the Romans and things like that.

616
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:20,200
But I didn't understand how much of a government structure, how similar it was to ours. And so it made it very relatable, I feel like, at least in my opinion.

617
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:30,200
And so, yeah, I think that, oh, and not to mention, I got to be Mark Anthony in the play. So I might have had something to do with it.

618
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:40,200
I think mine was one that I was fascinated by and it really kind of challenged me to think outside the box was death of a salesman.

619
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:54,200
Just because it's like, how much of this is like made up in his mind and you're kind of like, it's really sad to read the whole thing because you're like, this guy is part of a dying business and like he's kind of going crazy.

620
00:37:54,200 --> 00:38:01,200
And his family's fallen apart. And so it was kind of hard to but also fences. Did you read fences?

621
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,200
I didn't read fences now.

622
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:19,200
So fences is an African American play and it's about this guy Troy Maxon and he's like, he's this really rough dad that like didn't get a shot in baseball and he's like horrible to some of his kids.

623
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:34,200
And like, it's really interesting because he's a very complex character. And so it's kind of interesting like, I don't know, way to think about things because you feel bad for him, but he's doing some pretty messed up stuff.

624
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:40,200
So you're kind of like, yeah, like, I don't agree with that. But I understand like why he's acting that way.

625
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,200
I totally get you.

626
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:55,200
Now let me ask you this. You went to a fine arts magnet school. Was there one play or production that your magnet school put on that you say, you know what, that was probably the best one that I went to and I remember that one the most.

627
00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:13,200
Probably the best one, I would say really beauty and the beast. That was probably one of the better ones they put on. So what they would do is they would do like plays, but they would do major productions like every two years. And so I only got to see.

628
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,200
I remember it was it was Susie called the musical.

629
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,200
Yeah, there was one of the musical there was beauty and the beast.

630
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:30,200
And then there was I don't remember what it was my senior year, but the first the first year it was Wiley and the hairy man or something like that.

631
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:43,200
Oh, yeah, something like that. I don't remember what the what the other one was. But yeah, it was it was pretty pretty good. And then do you remember that one zinc the zebra was about this girl with cancer?

632
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:49,200
Yeah, I do remember that one. I do remember that one. I it was pretty bad, but I think we roasted part of that play.

633
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:56,200
I was just there trying to holla, bro. That's what I was trying to do. I showed up and I pulled up. I'm trying to holla at one of them girls in the play.

634
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:05,200
And I got her to sign my program and everything. I was trying to be like, oh, yeah, this was the best production I ever done. See, it was great. Oh, dude.

635
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:12,200
Let me tell you, there's one that was like scary, like creepily eerie. They did.

636
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:21,200
I think it wasn't the Black History Show. It was Fine Arts Festival and they did an interpretive dance to the theme of Jonestown.

637
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:30,200
Like, oh, dude, like you want to talk about scary and creepy and they started like at the end they played Jim Jones's voice.

638
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,200
Oh, talk about like chills. It was it was bad.

639
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:43,200
That's crazy. On a wider note, I remember probably my favorite one and this was a side play was Noises Off. I thought that was really funny.

640
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:52,200
It was a British comedy play. That one was really like, I thought that was really funny. Like, that's the one that stands out to me the most because I didn't, I guess all the other.

641
00:40:52,200 --> 00:41:02,200
So I wasn't really like a musical play guy, but the thing is, it's like Chris's school was like really good at it. You know, they were pretty well known in the area for.

642
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:08,200
So it's like, if you can get tickets to that, like, yeah, you go. And plus, I was trying to holler at the girls there too.

643
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,200
You try to go to another school to holler at the girls.

644
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:17,200
I know why you like Noises Off. So Noises Off is a play within a play, but Noises Off is also a British play.

645
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:24,200
So that makes sense why you probably like that because it was probably structured like with British humor.

646
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,200
So it makes sense why you probably like that.

647
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:34,200
And I'm pretty sure the main character modeled himself after John Cleese because he acted just like him. So I'm pretty sure that's probably why I liked it too.

648
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:40,200
But yeah, that was, no, that was pretty good. Your school was really good at that stuff. So watching that was pretty good.

649
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:45,200
But yeah, I was trying to holler at the ladies in the other school too, which was, you know, what it is, what it is.

650
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:53,200
All right, man, I think I know the answer to this one already. Would you rather live without internet or without air conditioning or heating?

651
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:59,200
No internet. I'll take, I'll take the like no internet. This summer was brutal.

652
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:06,200
Yeah, I knew that was the answer. My agency wasn't working a lot and it was brutal. Yeah. I'm okay without living with internet.

653
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:16,200
I actually did live without internet for, let's see, I didn't get internet and being out on my own until 2020. I know that's weird.

654
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,200
I didn't have internet for five years.

655
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:26,200
Yeah, no, I remember that because really the only reason I think you got internet was to play PlayStation Online with me.

656
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,200
That's the only reason you got it.

657
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,200
Let me tell you why I couldn't have internet. Let me tell you why.

658
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:40,200
Two words, actually three words. My ex-wife, my ex-wife did not want me to have internet.

659
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,200
So I couldn't stream shows that she deemed inappropriate.

660
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:48,200
I inappropriate and that's the only reason why I never had internet. And that's a BS.

661
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,200
Aren't we glad that we're on the other side?

662
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,200
Because I don't know what I'd do if I could play my PlayStation.

663
00:42:53,200 --> 00:43:00,200
My thing is internet, it would be hard to live without internet, but man, living in Texas, maybe if you didn't live in Texas,

664
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:07,200
maybe like a steady climate to where it's, you know, 70, 80 degrees all the time, maybe you don't need internet,

665
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:13,200
like maybe you don't need air conditioning and heating, but man, in Texas, even in the wintertime, you're going to need the heat.

666
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:20,200
You know what I mean? It's not just air conditioning. You're going to need the heat too. So yeah, definitely taking air conditioning, heating myself.

667
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:27,200
Maybe it was when you were a kid or maybe recently, but what is a dream that you kind of had to let die or just let go?

668
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:37,200
We've kind of talked about this before. I would say, and this is kind of a dumb one, is I wouldn't necessarily, well, it was football.

669
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:43,200
And I kind of let that one die. I wouldn't say like I had like NFL dreams because you knew me all through then.

670
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,200
Was there ever a time that I was like, here, I'm going to the NFL. I don't ever remember that.

671
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,200
I don't think you even wanted to play in college.

672
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:53,200
No, but there was a point in high school where I was like, you know what, like I'm not going to play in college.

673
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,200
Like I'm just going to do this in high school. There's my side activity.

674
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:01,200
But like there for a little bit I thought about doing college, like probably freshman and sophomore year,

675
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:08,200
but by the time I got, it was really when I got on to varsity and you're going to think this is really funny.

676
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:15,200
I don't know if you know this story. So we go to this town. It's called Warner Robins and they're really, they're really big in football now.

677
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,200
Like they're actually nationally ranked and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

678
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:25,200
We went to their school and I'll never forget their mascot was the demons.

679
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:31,200
And it was a whole big thing of controversy down there because it means Georgia, right? And the local teams called the demons.

680
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:41,200
They did not like that. But anyways, when they scored a touchdown, they had this big demon statue that shots fire out of its mouth and fireworks from its pitchfork.

681
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:50,200
It was actually pretty cool. But we show up and I would say that it was equivalent to a Texas-sized field.

682
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:57,200
Like in Georgia, we didn't have like huge stadiums. Like we were a 5A school, which was a big, big school,

683
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:02,200
but our stadium only held probably 3000 people, which is like a very small Texas-sized stadium.

684
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:07,200
Like it's very small. Itty bitty towns have 3000 people stadium kind of thing.

685
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:12,200
And so we go to this stadium and it was 8000 people and it had, you know, a jumbotron and things like that.

686
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:17,200
And we'd never seen that before. That was one. But I remember stretching, bro.

687
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:27,200
And there was this dude, a very large African-American fellow, and he stepped up and like he was leading the call for their team.

688
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:32,200
And he said, this is demon country. Not quite like that. It was more like, this is demon country.

689
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:40,200
And he was this big dude, man. And I just remember thinking to myself, I pity whoever has to go against that guy.

690
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:47,200
I was that guy. I found out very soon. I get out on the field and I was the guy that was lined up across from this dude.

691
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:55,200
He was committed to play at Clemson. And yeah, I got demolished all night. Like all night.

692
00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:00,200
I remember my coach before the game said, if you need any help or need anything, you let me know.

693
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:05,200
Like we'll talk about it. And we thought he was going to line up on the other side. No, he picked on me.

694
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:12,200
And I'll never forget, I asked Ronnie Graham, I was like, or just say Ronnie, I asked Ronnie, I run it back.

695
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,200
I said, hey, we're going to need to help chip this guy. He went through the both of us.

696
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,200
That was the moment that I was like, hey, I ain't playing further after this.

697
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,200
Like if I'm getting demolished like this in high school, like, hey, no way I'm going to college.

698
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:34,200
I was looking back and I found some old pictures of you like in a high school and like for some reason, like, I thought you were like the size like you are now.

699
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,200
But like you were like you were tall back then you were big. Don't get me wrong.

700
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:44,200
But you weren't really like that big like stocky. Like you were you were still kind of skinny.

701
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:50,200
Like you were tall. You weren't like a bean pull or anything, but you were you were tall, but you were still kind of skinny.

702
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:56,200
So you weren't like super stock. You're super like, I would say I'm probably bulkier now than I ever been.

703
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:01,200
Like I'm pretty bulky right now. Like I, I know, I know, I look at that too.

704
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,200
But you know, I also I also attribute it to not having very good eating habits.

705
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:12,200
I had a very fast metabolism, right? And I didn't, I mean, you can't you can't play football and eat microwave burritos and expect it to go.

706
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:19,200
Right. You know what I mean? Like it just are Totino's pizza rolls or whatever.

707
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,200
Or like Rotella rice. I remember that was another one.

708
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:30,200
And like you can't eat that stuff and then not have consistent meals like you you have consistent meals, but not consistent calories,

709
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,200
I guess is what I'm trying to say. Run and play football and like that.

710
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:39,200
I remember starting off at the beginning of the season and I'd be 210 and by the end of it, I'd be 175.

711
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,200
Like that's not healthy. So I'm not trying to throw shade, but you're right.

712
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:52,200
Like you didn't have those consistent meals. Like you, I don't really ever remember you guys being like, hey, we're going to have a set time for dinner every night.

713
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,200
Or even really now it was different times. Yeah.

714
00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:02,200
Or like even really in your pantry, dude, like you had maybe one or two things and we've talked about this before.

715
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:11,200
It was just like burritos and like maybe some ramen, but like there there wasn't that much to eat and you kind of had to figure out your own meals.

716
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:19,200
So I get that. Or like Campbell's Chunky Soup, which yeah, they had the football players on the commercial, but really and truly there's not a lot of calories in there.

717
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:25,200
Not for as much as you're burning, you know what I mean? Like out in the Georgia sun running around and hitting people.

718
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:32,200
Like you burn a ton of calories. And so it's one of those things to where I do think about that.

719
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:40,200
And I'm like, if I was eating, because by the time I got to my senior year, if you remember senior year, I did eat whatever I wanted.

720
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:45,200
And that was because we actually had money because we had jobs and went to the grocery store and bought what we wanted to eat.

721
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:55,200
And so it was like, I remember having stuff on hand and I even remember there for a while making like rice and ground beef like every night.

722
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,200
And I thought that was going to be great for some reason.

723
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:03,200
But I don't know if you remember that. I was like, yeah, I want the rice and ground beef diet.

724
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,200
And I just remember being like, okay.

725
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:14,200
I just remember having jobs and being able to go to the grocery store and get our own snacks and they got really upset.

726
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,200
They were like, you don't like the food that's here. And I'm like, there's not really any food here.

727
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:23,200
So like, we're going to get our own snacks. That's why we were always going to Burger King late at night.

728
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:29,200
Like, because there was nothing like they didn't have anything in the pantry or they didn't have anything like to eat.

729
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,200
And so you're just like, all right, well, we're going to solve this problem.

730
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:37,200
We're not going to ask you to buy more stuff. We're going to spend our own money and we're going to get our own snack.

731
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:42,200
Well, not just that, but even if we did take some of the stuff, like say there was honey buns or something like that,

732
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,200
it'd be like, oh, now there's only two left. It's like, yeah, there was six in the package.

733
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:51,200
We had two yesterday and then Chris and I had one today. So there you go.

734
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,200
Only two left in the package. And then they would get mad. They'd get real mad.

735
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,200
Just like, bro, you can't tell us that it's it's free game and then not.

736
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:02,200
So there was all sorts of stuff there. But no, I totally get you.

737
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:08,200
But I guess that's for me. That was that moment that that big dude with the demon country thing.

738
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:13,200
Man, he, uh, after after that game, I remember that was a long bus ride home.

739
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,200
And I thought about my entire life and I was just like, they know way I'm going to college.

740
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,200
I was like, no way I'm going to play college football.

741
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:26,200
Would you rather be able to only eat sweet foods the rest of your life or savory foods the rest of your life?

742
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,200
So like it's either sweet or savory. You know, I have a sweet tooth.

743
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,200
So I guess I would say sweet probably.

744
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:39,200
Now, if there's a sweets product that you're like, man, send me boxes of that and I'll be good with that.

745
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,200
What are we doing?

746
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:48,200
I don't know. I like Mike and Ike's. I like, uh, I don't know, like baked goods.

747
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:53,200
Um, I don't know. I just like difference.

748
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:58,200
Do you still like those? What was that thing? I remember. So shout out, shout out to your mom.

749
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:04,200
But I remember when we first moved to Texas, I remember she used to send like these care packages as full of these snacks.

750
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:10,200
And, um, what were those things like the little rolls? They were blue with like the pink center.

751
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,200
You remember that? Like the, they weren't Laffy Taffy.

752
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,200
Oh, like the sweet. I remember we used to eat the mess out of those.

753
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,200
Yeah. Them sweet tart ropes. I remember eating the mess out of them.

754
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:25,200
Oh yeah. That was also two. My mom helps, uh, feed us secretly.

755
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,200
Yeah. That, that is true. Secretly. Jesus.

756
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,200
It was like prison. We would get, we would get caught.

757
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:38,200
Bro. And when it was, bro, you remember we used to hide the snacks under the bed too.

758
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:43,200
Like we, it's like he had his bed out. Have by like, we tucked that box under the bed too.

759
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,200
Make sure nobody does know about the snacks.

760
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:52,200
It was like, it really was. I'm, of course, it's not like prison for sure.

761
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:57,200
But yeah, we get waking up early, go do work.

762
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:02,200
There wasn't hardly nothing to eat. We were having to eat ramen and then we get those care packages.

763
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,200
So we were hiring contraband.

764
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:09,200
Yeah. Man. Listen. Yeah. It's funny cause all the stuff in the pantry was basically,

765
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:14,200
it was basically like commissary. It was commissary items that people get in prison.

766
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:19,200
It's like, it's like, oh, you want a Totino's pizza? It's like, that's what you got.

767
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:24,200
There's ramen, all that other stuff. That, that's, that's great.

768
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:32,200
Next question. What is the most meaningful risk you've taken that like has paid off for you?

769
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:37,200
It's hard because I feel like there's, there's a lot of risks that have paid off, but there's not,

770
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,200
like there's a few big ones in the works that's like, I just need a few more things.

771
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,200
And I could say that massive thing worked out. You know what I mean?

772
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,200
I would say the risk in getting into the IT career worked out, man.

773
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:55,200
That's, that was a big risk. You know, talking about something that was like failure and have to give up on.

774
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:00,200
Reason I didn't say flying is cause I haven't given up on that. I know I'm coming back to it.

775
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:07,200
Right. Like I know it's just on hold. But jumping from that into IT, that was a big risk.

776
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:14,200
It's like, what if this doesn't work out? And a measure of success for me as part of the reason that I went into that career field

777
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:20,200
is because you've all heard the term. It's not what you know is who you know sometimes.

778
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:26,200
And I knew more people in that industry at the time. Now all these people, I have nothing to do with them and no more.

779
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:32,200
And I've made my own name in the industry and doing my own thing. Now, in no way am I saying like, oh, I'm this high up thing,

780
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:38,200
but it's going well. Like, I mean, it's going very well, especially for somebody my age, it's going well.

781
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:47,200
And so it, and you know, I even try to remind myself a lot. There was a time where Michael was struggling.

782
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:53,200
I was an Uber driver, right? I was studying for this test just to get my foot in the door into IT.

783
00:53:53,200 --> 00:54:02,200
I failed that test twice and it was $500 a pop. And I failed it twice. And that was, I mean, you want to talk about some gut wrenching times.

784
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:09,200
Because when you're barely making your bills, scraping up $500 and failing is, that's hard.

785
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:15,200
That's really, especially when you have to look like she's my wife now, but when you have to look at your girlfriend in the face

786
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,200
and be like, man, we're going to have to hustle to figure this out, you know.

787
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:27,200
And so it's like there was that. But then I think about that and end up finally passing that test,

788
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:36,200
end up moving my way up and end up, you know, at least in my company, making a good name for myself and things like that is, that's big, you know,

789
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:43,200
that's the biggest thing. It's like, take that risk and fail that a few times and could have given up, but didn't happen.

790
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,200
I would say it paid off. How about yourself?

791
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:52,200
Probably one of them for sure was moving to Texas. That was definitely a big risk moving across the country.

792
00:54:52,200 --> 00:55:01,200
After all I've ever known is Augusta, Georgia, right? Like I have my buddy, Micah, that's there with me, but really essentially like I'm out here on my own.

793
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:10,200
Like I'm leaving my mom, my dad, my brother, like my friends. I'm leaving a whole life behind and that was a big risk, but I knew it was the right risk

794
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:21,200
and I was excited for the adventure. And I'm so thankful that I ended up here in Lubbock and just, you know, that I got to be able to just experience

795
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:31,200
Texas, man, because after I got here, dude, it was home for me. Like it really was. And so it was a hard transition, like being away from my family.

796
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:47,200
But I think that was a big risk and then not to be like a Debbie Delner, but I think at the moment where like I finally was like, you know what, I'm done with my ex-wife because my ex-wife and I, even after the divorce,

797
00:55:47,200 --> 00:56:01,200
like there were a little bit of times where like, okay, maybe this will work. And I remember being in the spot of, hey, I'm going to have to choose between my best friend and I'm going to have to choose between her because it was basically kind of that ultimatum for her.

798
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:10,200
And I remember being like, yeah, no, like I'm going to choose my best friend. I'm going to choose to walk away from this because it was a really hard situation to get out of.

799
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:22,200
Like it really was when people like that have control over you. It's hard to walk away. It really is. But and I was like, man, like I hope I'm not screwing my life up.

800
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:34,200
But in that, like, you know, my life is so much better having walked away from that. Like I'm in a job that's great. And I have my best friend and I have my wonderful wife.

801
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,200
And you get to play PlayStation now.

802
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:49,200
And I get to play PlayStation and I don't have to worry about, I don't have to worry about what I'm playing. I don't have to worry about getting chewed out because I went to McDonald's that day.

803
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:54,200
Like it's wild. We can go into that another day because that's the whole podcast.

804
00:56:54,200 --> 00:57:05,200
That's a whole, yeah, that's a whole thing. All right, man. So next question. This one's kind of a thinker. Would you rather travel back in time to meet your ancestors or travel forward to meet your descendants?

805
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:20,200
Oh, that's kind of a hard one. Because at first off the bat, I was like, I want to travel to meet my descendants because I want to see like, okay, like, you know, how did I do like with the legacy that I left?

806
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:27,200
I think I'm a little scared to travel back to meet my ancestors because I'm like, I don't know what kind of crazy stuff y'all done.

807
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:35,200
Yeah. And my thing is, it's like, on my end, I'll tell you this much. I'm like, I'm questioning what I even like y'all.

808
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:51,200
Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, I just, but I am curious kind of like the bloodline and the story. Like I kind of know a little bit of the bloodline, but I'm just curious or where that could, but I guess I would say to meet my descendants just to see how it all turned out.

809
00:57:51,200 --> 00:58:07,200
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I think for me, it's really hard and I hate to be like, I'm mixture of both. If I were to go meet my descendants, I think it would be probably the ones that I have not heard about like, who is my descendant from 500 years ago, right?

810
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:26,200
And see what this person was like potentially. Somebody that, you know, would be so far back that you probably couldn't track down. You know what I mean? And then if it's somebody who's descendant, I'm thinking like grandkids, great grandkids, see how my kids did, you know, like how did I do parenting and how did it trickle down?

811
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:30,200
You know what I mean? Like, that's kind of where I'd be curious.

812
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:41,200
I only have two more. I maybe have asked you this before. So if I have, please forgive me. Anybody dead or alive, who is your starting five?

813
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,200
For basketball?

814
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,200
Basketball.

815
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:59,200
Oh man. Okay. I'm going to say for center, okay, I'm going to skip to Power Ford, Tim Duncan for Power Ford. You know what? For small Ford, I'm going to shock everybody. I'm going to do Josh Smith, the old Atlanta Hawks player.

816
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:10,200
Bro, if he was on like a massive team, watch him work. That thing would, he would have been great. So Josh Smith and then shooting guard, I would say probably Kobe.

817
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:21,200
And then point guard, I would probably say, man, you can't go wrong with Steph. As much as you love, hate him. It's just like, dude's a video game, right? Like the dude's crazy.

818
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:26,200
And then so back to center.

819
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,200
I guess Shaq, man, put Shaq on there.

820
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:43,200
Awesome. I think I'm keeping Shaq. I'm keeping Steph Curry. I'm keeping Kobe. I don't know what position Michael Jordan played, but I'm putting Michael Jordan on my team.

821
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,200
He was a small Ford. He was a small Ford.

822
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:46,200
Yeah.

823
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:51,200
Who's my fifth man? My fifth man.

824
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,200
It was your Power Ford, right?

825
00:59:53,200 --> 01:00:02,200
And this may not be his position, but my fifth man is going to be cream Abdul Jabbar.

826
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:09,200
Hey, it's close enough, man. Hold me with the sky hook. Yeah, I love cream of Jill Jabbar. He's cool guy.

827
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,200
Michael Jordan is nowhere on your team though.

828
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:20,200
Like, don't, are you saying like, who would be the best or who I'd have on my team? But don't get me wrong. Michael Jordan's the best, but I wouldn't want somebody like that on my team. He's a diva.

829
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:33,200
I'd be honest with you. I don't know. A lot of these other guys, they seem like they wouldn't be divas as much. Like Kobe for sure, but I think him and Shaq together would balance each other out again.

830
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:43,200
I'm going to stack two in a row here and they're going to be kind of varying questions, okay? Would you rather have a pet snake or a pet ferret? So like, you have to have one.

831
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:47,200
I guess a pet ferret, I don't do snakes. You know I don't do snakes.

832
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,200
Like even if it's like non-venomous, super small snake. Yeah, don't do snakes.

833
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:59,200
Alright, so the next question would be, would you rather lose the ability to speak or lose the ability to hear? Like you got to lose one. Which one you're losing?

834
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:03,200
Oh, I already can't hear that well anyway.

835
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,200
What'd you say? No, I'm joking.

836
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:15,200
I guess probably the ability to speak because I can still write. So, yeah, I don't, it'd be alright if I didn't speak.

837
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:20,200
Then I could get out of like having to be social. That would be great actually.

838
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:24,200
Then I could call you Helen Keller and get away with it.

839
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:36,200
Last question for me on my end. If there is a specific memory like from our past that you could go back and relive, is there a certain one that you would want?

840
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:48,200
There's a few like Six Flags trips. Like Six Flags over Georgia trips. I wouldn't say Six Flags over Texas the first time, but probably the second time for sure.

841
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:54,200
The first time, just a lot of stuff went wrong. So I wouldn't want to have that.

842
01:01:54,200 --> 01:02:00,200
And then I go on a rodeo again. I think that would be pretty fun. I gotta do that again.

843
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:13,200
Fine is the Six Flags trip where we went just on a whim and we could drive. It's probably one of the last, not the last time, but one of the last times because that one was a good trip.

844
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,200
I can't believe that Buick made it all the way to Atlanta by the way.

845
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:21,200
And back and back. That was the same trip I broke my phone, right?

846
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:39,200
That was the same trip. And then probably another one I would say is I don't remember how old we were, but just those few days where I would spend the night for a couple days and we would watch TV and prank call people or watch the Dave Chappelle show.

847
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:46,200
Like we don't have any cares in the world. I had no cares in the world. So that was a simpler time.

848
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,200
Or call the pizza guy to the dude next door.

849
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:56,200
Yeah, stuff like that. Yeah. That was good times. Good time. I would definitely do that stuff again. I definitely feel that.

850
01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:01,200
Or the camping trip where we pranked those people.

851
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,200
Pissed everybody off.

852
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:08,200
Alright. So I got two questions, but I'll finish it up here.

853
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:15,200
Would you rather have the power to enter your dreams or bring your dreams into the real world?

854
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:20,200
I think enter my dreams because I don't want to bring my dreams into the real world.

855
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:25,200
Yeah, some of my dreams are wacky and insane and I don't want to bring those out there.

856
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:31,200
But hey, if I could step into it and kind of control some things and punch some people in the face, that'd be great.

857
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,200
Anybody in particular, Micah?

858
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,200
Oh, I think you know who.

859
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:44,200
Let's see here. And then the last question that I have, would you rather spend a year living at sea, like on a boat, or a year living in a remote cabin in the mountains?

860
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,200
A remote cabin in the mountains, bro.

861
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:51,200
Living at sea, that's going to make you crazy.

862
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:56,200
But in the mountains, if you're a recluse, like you'd be okay. I'd be okay with that.

863
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,200
Yeah, you'd think so. I think mountains be giving you...

864
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,200
Like, why do you think all the cults are in the mountains too?

865
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,200
Or like start up in the mountains because there'd be some crazy stuff happening in the mountains too.

866
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:10,200
I don't know. For me, maybe mountains would probably be better, but sea sounds more appealing.

867
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,200
I have no idea why. It's like a year out at sea. Alright.

868
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:19,200
It's going back to that inner thug that's in me. You know I don't like the water, dude. You know I don't like the water.

869
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,200
He don't even like pools if they don't eat it.

870
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:28,200
If they eat it, if they eat the hot tub, I dip my toe and I'm like, yeah, nah, I'll be alright.

871
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:36,200
Remember that one time, remember that one time you told Fat Cat, you were like, hey man, he probably ain't gonna get in the pool, maybe like two, three minutes.

872
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:45,200
He don't swim like that. And Fat Cat was like, really why? It was like, nah, like just watch him. Like he'll be in the pool with two, three minutes.

873
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,200
And I dip my toe and I say, yeah, I'll be in here about two, three minutes.

874
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:56,200
Yeah. And then he was sitting on the side next to the fire. Like he had this little fireplace deal next to the pool.

875
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,200
He was next to the fire two, three minutes. He was out of there.

876
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:12,200
And but to be fair, bro, Fat Cat kept that pool. They never turned the heater on. So that thing was cold as in, cold as in like it was, I think the thermometer was like 68 degrees, 70 degrees.

877
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:16,200
And that don't sound cold, but for water, that's pretty cold. That's pretty cold.

878
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:23,200
So, so alright, man, well, it's been a great podcast. We got through all of our questions there.

879
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:29,200
It was kind of like you said, a good cop, bad cop, yin, yang thing. So that was pretty cool.

880
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:34,200
Man, I learned a few things about you per usual with these episodes.

881
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:47,200
But yeah, over at the trash can network, over at the trash can network, go check us out over there on Facebook, on Instagram and on the YouTubes, because we got fun content coming out on the YouTubes.

882
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:55,200
And then if you're into that aviation style stuff over at the Aviator Society, and Christopher, I'll be taking some flights here soon.

883
01:05:55,200 --> 01:06:01,200
So there's even going to be like, I'm keeping the content fresh, but I'm really, I'll be real with you.

884
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:06,200
I'm having to dig into my archives to keep some playing content.

885
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:12,200
So I'm excited to take some of these flights so that I have some fresh content to work with some full flight content.

886
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:13,200
Hint any hint, hint, hint.

887
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:21,200
I'm excited that you're taking flight. And so speaking of taking flight, I think it's time that we take the Starship and fly on out of here.

888
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,200
Let's get out of here. I'm Michael.

889
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:24,200
And I'm Chris.

890
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:44,200
And this has been the Dona Box Package.

891
01:06:54,200 --> 01:07:04,200
And then here beside you, won't so much to give you this love in my heart that I'm feeling for you.

892
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:14,200
Let them see we're crazy. I don't care about that. Put your hands in my hand, baby. Don't ever look back.

893
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:24,200
Let the world around us just fall apart. Baby, we can make it if we're hard to hard.

894
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:48,200
And we can do this together.