I
Was just thinking back to the sea other day
Do you remember when you used to play?
Games like on a computer like you could play computer games these kids will never know about playing games like on an actual computer
Are you you mean like well?
I mean there's still plenty of people that play PC games like games on the computer
Actually, there's some people that straight up prefer it like they they still play game like you know
There are some people that prefer playing like Grand Theft Auto on the computer or I mean any of your popular
Games yeah, but but back then it was like a mainstream like it was before gaming systems really took off like yeah
People have things but like people would be like hey, I'm gonna go play a computer game just for fun
What was the first computer that your family had it was I mean, I don't remember what it was
I mean, it was a Microsoft Windows
whatever
But it was that big it used to be this big power and this big monitor and all that
I remember a couple of the games we had was like they were all educational games
But my parents decided to trick me and they're like oh, yeah, you're gonna play a computer game
But it's actually educational. So there are a few of those. Yeah, I had a few of those as well
I remember the first one that we got as a family was actually a gateway
Do you remember those like with the little clock? They had like little cows like a little logo
So that's the only reason I remember it
but it was a gateway and
big bulky thing right and of course we had the dial-up internet with the
Man those those noises were just terrible
Like I hated the dial-up noise
The only one I played that was like actual fun was a toy story too
And I just remember you were buzzed like here
And so you had to like it basically each level was kind of like it was either Andy's house or like
Inside of his room and you're trying to accomplish certain missions
And then I think like the next level was like trying to cross the street or else toy bar
And I was outside or something, but it was a pretty cool game. I liked it
Yeah, the only other one that I remember there was two that I remember is I had a
Tonka truck like racing game. I don't know if you've ever seen those but it was like basically
truck racing
Really bad graphics and everything and then the other game that I had was it was an educational game
It was called Carmen San Diego like there was like a whole it was like the one in the Amazon
I don't know if you played that one, but it was like the only reason I liked it is because I didn't like doing math
But they had like math fishing where you would like have little hook go down there
And it would be like the different numbers and it would ask you the question
I would be like yeah, and then like it would be like different fish
You would catch and I remember you playing roller coaster tycoon and prison
Now those were great games. Yeah, they were build your own prison build your own theme park make money
Well, I'm Chris and I'm Michael and this is the Donut Box
Podcast welcome back to another episode of the Donut Box podcast
We are on our regular schedule programming this week, but Michael, how are you doing?
I'm a little tired, but you know what we we doing it just like usual man
And I'll tell you what we're thrilled about all of the listeners all around the world man
We've been getting some really great numbers here lately too and I'm super excited because we're moving up the episode number list
We're I mean we're gonna be getting to season four here really soon. Yeah, we're only three away from episode
150 I'm excited for that episode. It's gonna be really exciting. I'm ready for it. Yeah, man. Absolutely so
But yeah, man, we have a great episode today
We are back to our regularly scheduled
Programming and we're going to get started with our first donut out of the box
Which is the old-fashioned on it or story from our past or sometimes we do people from our past and this you know
Chris and I over the years
we've had I
Guess our what would you like to call it Chris our third musketeer?
You know and it's kind of been interchangeable
we've had people come and go but all of them have been awesome people and
Some of them had been straight characters man
So we got we got some stories about them and a few of them listen to the show. So you know what man? It's it's great
So
You want to get started man? Who we talking about first? We got to go down the list historically
So the first person that joined I guess the three because again, I don't know me and Michael
We're always buddies were tight, but we were like man
We need we need someone else in the friend group and so the first one I remember
His name we called him Tyrone Peewee and he lived right next door to Micah
His family was definitely a military family. I could tell that because wasn't his dad like deployed or something
Yeah, for a lot of the time his dad was deployed
Yeah, and we call him Tyrone Peewee because he was he was this little kid man
He was like he was little but he was I don't know. I think it was one of the
Wasn't it one of like the Wednesday night
Church leaders that like called him that first and I think that's how the name stuck
Yep, mr. Lin mr. Lin called him
Mr. I wrote yeah, we and that name stuck and really just truly I remember hanging it out with him a
couple of times like at your in your neighborhood, but really I just remember hanging out with him at church
pretty much that kid was a ham and this was so when we say like this was
How old I mean we were probably like nine ten right I think it was fourth and fifth grade so yeah, and
Tyrone Peewee was a little younger like I think he was not he was he was two grades younger than you and he was only a
Grade younger than me, but like I was I was like I wouldn't would you say I was the class clown that wasn't really funny
Yeah, you were like the class clown that we're trying to act up and try to get everybody to act up
I think why we were like yeah Tyrone Peewee is because he was that times like 12 except he would be doing some really really crazy
Stuff I just remember that kid bouncing off the walls and
Like he was he was pretty wild and he I remember it was kind of nice because he deflected the trouble away from us
It was kind of like a hey, he's he's the henchman you come up with a good idea
And you send Tyrone Peewee to do it so he catches your dirty dirty was the wrong guy
Yeah, he was the fall guy every time and yeah, and he he would always yeah
He'd ever caught on to that for some reason so it was always fun
But yeah, I even remember one time we told him to moon a classroom across the like a like a Wednesday night classroom across the
Hall and he ended up doing it and getting in trouble it was the only thing I really remember about him is I just remember
playing football with him a lot and then I remember we were standing out
Between the two houses your house and his house and we're standing out in the yard
And he had this big old gallon of like Kool-aid like it was it was ghetto like it was really ghetto and like he
He's like took and he drank he drank from it and he like passed it to you and you're like nah, man
I ain't going he was like you were like your lips have been on that
I ain't gonna drink that and I was like well, I was like I'm I'm thirsty
So I was like I'm gonna I was like I'm gonna wipe this off
And I was like then I'll then I'll drink from the thing and I just remember he was like yeah
It takes a real me to drink a drink Kool-aid when another man is has already drunk him from it
I'm just like okay. Hey, I was like I'm just really thirsty bro like don't flatter yourself
Yeah, it's the Georgia summer out here
I think the time you weren't here this time. I don't think but the time I remember with him is
So I'd gotten a BB gun right and I you know the hole you'll take your eye out kid
I understand it completely
So all of our parents like the bus would drop us off and all of our parents didn't come home till five o'clock or after
But the bus dropped us off at like three o'clock
So there's two hour gap and so we would go outside and so I'd gotten a BB gun
Tyrone P. We had gotten a BB gun and a couple other kids in the neighborhood had gotten a BB gun
And so we came up with this really good idea because in school we were learning about like in the different grades
We were learning about like different wars the Revolutionary War
So how it started was we we took chalk and we would put it in the BB guns to like make it look like
gunpowder like going off and so and we would go in our in like I don't know why it was my backyard
I have no idea why I guess probably so that if we shot holes in my wall
I was the fall guy and I was an idiot didn't see that but
There was kind of a chain leak fits gate that was like in the middle and so one team would like take position
And there was like this
Red trailer that my parents had back there and so we would like hide behind that and then we had like this swing
You remember that swing in the front yard
That we had that the squirrels chewed up so like the other team would be in front of that and so we decided yeah
We're gonna have a war and we're gonna shoot at each other and so we started shooting at each other and
I
Don't somebody shot Tyrone P. We like I'm talking like right in between his eyes
Like I mean it was like right in between his eyes and like made this big purple
Well, and all this like it didn't puncture the skin, but you could definitely tell what happened and man
We got in so much trouble like his mom went around to everybody's parents and like told and we I got in so much
I got that BB gun taken away from me and like I don't think I ever got it back actually
Because that was it but yeah, it was it was a it was a big deal and then
But yeah, I just remember like him getting that welp and he's like you think my mom will notice like yeah
Yeah, she's gonna notice and he
He was so mad that he took his BB gun and he shot me in the leg
Even though it wasn't my fault. I have no clue why so I had a welp on my leg. It was
Kids, I don't know man. That's why you shouldn't let your kids unsupervised with BB guns. It's just FY so somehow or another
I think Tyrone P. We moved away and so we said he moved away
Well, we're taking applications for the next musketeer
so
We found again, I don't know just happenstance probably going to church a lot, but Patty ice
He was a kid that we hung out with and I lived on the other side of town
But his parents live not too far from Michael's parents
So they were pretty close and so they hung out a lot
And so we just hung out at church and I remember remember there were a lot of times where we hung out with Patty ice
We actually went to the movies together with Patty ice Patty ice's parents were actually a little bit more I guess
How the tables have turned they're not strict at all now
But back in the day they were strict strict strict and it was like we were going to go see a Tyler Perry movie
it was one of the Medea movies wasn't it and
We were going to go see one of those and I remember that his mom was like yeah, you guys aren't allowed to see that like
I'm not gonna lie. You see that only Christian movies. So we had to find a Christian movie and the only one that was playing was called
The story of Jonathan's Perry. Is that the name of it? I know is Jonathan's very secret
So it's a Jonathan's Perry. What a what a movie what a movie that was go ahead Chris. Do you want to talk about it?
It was a really typical cheesy Christian movie about this old Christian guy who
Takes these middle school boys under his wing and teaches them of what it means to be a man that follows Jesus
And it was just really cheesy like think of stand by me, but really cheesy
Christian version and for some reason there was a kid that was crying about something and
Somebody laughed I don't remember if it was Patty ice. I don't remember if it was me
I
Was definitely me I was laughing because this kid was crying about something stupid
It was it was a very bad movie. It was very bad. I you you remember more than I do
I don't remember a ton about it. I just remember that kid crying and me laughing
So afterwards we decide hey like what's the story of the movie?
We decide hey like we're waiting on our parents to come pick us up
Because I think we all got dropped off together and so we were like, okay, we're gonna wait on our parents
Well, let's go get some ice cream. There's ice cream across the street
And for some reason Patty ice just takes off running like doesn't look or nothing
And he just like runs across the street and this is like a this is like a major six
This is a major six lane road like this is a like it's a pretty busy street, too
Like it's not a it was a pretty wide street like it's not a it's pretty hefty to cross
And he just sprinted across this mug like Jay walked it but another another thing I remember about Patty Isis
I remember that we
For some reason we all got together
Because Micah's parents my parents Patty Isis parents some other parents all got together and we're gonna have a I guess Bible study
Fellowship whatever potluck at Micah's house and so all the kids got out in the backyard and me and Micah
We're kind of the ringleaders because a lot of them were like younger they were younger than us
So you come to my house. It's our rules. So I don't know what happened
I don't know if we have been watching Comedy Central or what but we're like we're gonna have an old-fashioned roast
Or we just roast people now me and Micah talked about this
I think before people came over but we laid down some grandmothers
We're like, okay, we're not gonna roast each other because we know too much about each other and I'm not gonna like
Accidentally hurt his feelings or anything. So I just remember or even disclose even you know with because these these people
They were also a big mouse too
So, you know don't want to disclose any information have all that go out either but for some but for some reason
We had everybody sit in a circle. So I was there Micah was there. My brother was there Jay Rizal
I think was there
Patty I said his brother were there and then
A a rom was there. I think I think that was it. Yeah, so we were like, oh now
And then there was that one there was that one weird quiet kid that I'll never remember and so we were like, okay
We're gonna roast so we were like, all right, we're gonna go around the circle
And so I think me and you did most of the roasting
I think it was we took the opportunity to roast everybody. I remember going up to your brother and we really torched him. I remember that I
Remember really torching Patty ice and everybody
Yeah, we torch hey, he was a good sport about it. He was a good sport, but we roasted the crap out of him
Yeah, you know what now that you mentioned it. I don't remember anybody else roasting that night besides
I think I think maybe Patty ice got in I think Jay Rizal tried to get in but we're like nah, nah, you ain't doing it
Right
We might have we might have booted him off the stage and roasted him more who knows
But yeah, so and then after a while, you know his parents and everything like well
His dad got deployed I think too a lot of these people are in the military right military town
So I think his dad got deployed it was like Korea right? I think it was the place and
And so and they were like able to visit him
I remember like they went over there for a little bit like I know
Other members of his family went over there stuff like that and we kind of didn't see him as much after that started happening
And then so you know what the applications are open again, you know for this
For this open spot and that's where old Tay Tay come into play, you know
I already know what memory you about to say but go for it
What how we came to know Tay Tay was so we were all in this small group together
Middle school boys and I remember our co small group leader
Decided that he was gonna do his own small group and he lived like right across the street from our small group
So I remember Tay Tay was like his first and only member and so they were like hey like is anybody
You know if anybody wants to like help them start this small group like let's go and so I talked to Mike
I was like are you going to this small group and he was like yeah, I'm going are you going?
I was like yeah, if you're going I'm going so
We started going over that small group and it was just me
Tay Tay
Micah and I think Jay Rizzle for a little bit and it was just the four of us and so we went over there
And we just really got to hang out with Tay Tay and I remember for some reason
We went to this adventure park and Tay Tay was crazy bro. Like he was hopped up on he was wild
Yes, so for some reason the story I remember and we told this story on the on the podcast before
But what I remember specifically is we were riding in the bus to go on a student leader retreat to
Mortal Beach, South Carolina
Now this is like a three hour trip four hour trip maybe and so
Do you want to tell the rest of the story? I'll let you tell the rest of the story bro
No, go go a little bit into it and and well, okay. I'll tell it. That's fine. So
So Tay Tay and then we're if you've ever been in a church van situation
It's very cramped and it's rows of bench seating, right? And so we're in the very back and um
So there was already this
This guy, how do we describe this guy the guy that's in the row in front of him?
What do we even call him? He was kind of like extra. He was just extra in traffic
Yeah, definitely and so one thing that he had on him was some Febreze and man, I'm I'm telling you
Tay Tay was letting out some gas dude. He was letting out some serious gas
And so like this dude and he was like messing around too and so this dude was like Febreze
Well, he ended up Febreze them in the face
Like I remember he ended up Febreze them in the face
And he ended up Febreze like it was it was this whole thing and so we ended up calling him Febreze for that
But not just that man. He ended up like he was trying to
Get out of getting Febreze and he ends up like letting his fart out of my face and at this time
I was not um
Like I did not have a very strong stomach. I'll be I'll be real with you and so
I like I puked everywhere
And I just I just remember man that poor driver shout out to him
He had to pull over and like we had to we had to like clean all that up and like
Like it was it was bad. It was bad. What do you like? What do you remember about that? Like I just remember
I just remember Tay Tay
Trying to grab the Febreze and he farted in your general direction that quote, uh, Monty Python
He farted in your general direction
And like bro like I think you just caught a whip of it and then boom like you threw up and I just remember being like, oh
bro
Everyone's like Michael threw up
That poor band driver. Oh, yeah, yeah, we cleaned it up. He cleaned it up. He was yeah, it was oh, man
What what an embarrassing time too
Like, you know, you don't want to throw up on a church trip
But like yeah, that thing was noxious like
It was like it wasn't just that but like he'd been farting like a good bit and it was it was like that rotten egg
Crap, you know what I mean? And it was just bad. It was bad stuff
And that mixed with Febreze mixed with middle school at high school
boys
Yeah, not a not a good time. It was bad. It was really bad. Uh, I somehow somehow
Somehow Tay Tay ended up just not coming to church anymore. We didn't see much of them
Do you want to save the others for next week or do you want to keep going? You know what?
We'll save the others for next week. We'll do another
Structure one since we did two free flows in a row. We'll do part two
So here about part two we have about
Three or four more third musketeers after uh after Tay Tay, but those those are some of the few ones
Listen, man, I'm sorry. I got to go into one more Tay Tay story
The only other Tay Tay story I got to say is we went to this adventure park and he was wild to the point where
Uh, like this place had go-karts. It was an arcade and everything
And so we were in the arcade and we went to this kitty like basketball game
And I remember we found out a way to where you could basically dunk it and get it in every time and get a bunch of tickets
And so this dude went wild like I'm talking like he would be taking the ball and like slamming it
and to the point where this I I guess an alarm went off like really really loud and
Just just blaring and I've never seen somebody run so fast like homie ran to the bathroom
He was a flash. I don't know man. I'm it's still to this day. He's just like I
I don't know if I've ever seen somebody run so fast and I remember going to the bathroom like it's all right
The alarm's off and he's like anybody looking for us. It's like no man. We're good
It's all good
It's time to move into our next segment and what is on our next segment?
Micah man, it is our jelly donut, which we normally do the jail report or it's kind of been kind of our
second donut hole that's free flow
um
Whatever we want to do. We're going to go into
conspiracy theories today
You know, you got to love some good
conspiracy theories and chris
I know that you are you believe pretty much everything that you hear so you'll believe all these it's great
I already know that's how it's no i'm joking um, but I do want to hear your opinion because
You know naturally you are skeptical and yes, you are a man of the cloth. So we'll take your spiritual
Uh beliefs into account as well. All right, so the very first one is the phantom time
Hypothesis have you ever heard of that one? No, I have no so these I've chosen these as all lesser known conspiracies
So a lot of these you probably haven't heard of but I'll ask anyways
Uh, this theory suggests that approximately 300 years of history particularly from 614 to 911
80 were fabricated misplaced or destroyed altering the entire historical timeline
What do you think do you think history is not accurate because between 614 and 911 ad
Um historical records were destroyed or misplaced and so can you explain to me why people think that they think a lot of it
Has to do with the catholic church book burning things like that removal
Uh and basically consolidation of control other than that that's all that it said that people believe in and why they believe it
I think that's a believable theory. I would not I would not be surprised that that actually was true
Um, just what the things going on in the roman catholic church at the time, right? Like it was uh,
It was pretty corrupt like the roman catholic church had periods where
They would be like good and then they'd be corrupt and then they'd have to have someone kind of like set them straight
And they'd be good and then they'd be corrupt and then because so maybe it could be it could be that that was a uh
That could be that that was a thing. So I wouldn't put it past it
So I I could probably believe that theory. Yeah, so that one that one's interesting because you know, basically from here on then
everything is
Ripple effects. So, you know, oh leonardo da Vinci things like that all that renaissance that could all be
Misplaced in time like we might think that it's in a certain time period, but it's not so be very interesting
Um, the next one and I'm sorry if you know what this is and I butcher the name of it
The mokko mokkolebe have you ever heard of that one? I have no idea what you just said
So this theory says that there is an existence of a dinosaur like creature in the congo river basin
Suggesting that dinosaur relatives might be alive today
Now I will remind you that scientists also believe that and I'm not saying scientists believe this
But scientists believe that the closest thing that we have to dinosaurs nowadays
Genetics wise and descendants wise is a chicken. At least that's what I've heard. Yeah, that's what I've heard too
But you look at like these crazy big reptiles dude like these komodo dragons and stuff you be like, oh, yeah
Like even crocodiles. Yeah, I look at crocodiles and I'm just like listen that thing is a dinosaur if I've ever seen one
Like if it might not fit the typical definition of it, but it's definitely got some dinosaur like qualities to it
But yeah komodo dragons too
You're right
There are other animals out there the congo river basin is pretty vast as well
So I wouldn't be surprised but I think if you're thinking like velociraptor type thing or you know things like I don't think that exists
But I do think that there's probably species that exist that might be dinosaur like that. We don't know about
I'm very open to that. I am very open to that as well. And here's what I'll tell you
I'm not going to be the one to try to approve or disprove that by actually going and looking for it
So if someone else wants to go look at that do you but I am open to that
I'm with you on that. All right. The next one this one's a little bit more outlandish
It's about the dulce base. Have you heard about that one?
So this is a secret under this according to the theory
This is a secret underground base in dulce, New Mexico and it houses extraterrestrials and humans that are working together on advanced technologies
And genetic experiments with humans
It further goes. So that's the you know base of the theory now some of the more extreme people in this theory
believe that there is a contract between our federal government and these aliens and that people that get abducted or that are never found
Are actually getting taken to this place to have
Experiments done on them with the aliens
And the government in conjunction. What do you think? I don't know man
When it comes to aliens and stuff, I have a conservative pretty conservative believe
It's not that I'm closed minded to it
But like the fact that we have a contract with them. I don't think so but again, I wouldn't put it past anybody like I
Like it's believable. So I mean I personally do I believe that? No, but I I think it is
believable
I don't think it's that outlander and I can see why people would believe it right?
I mean I can see why people would believe it. Do you know what I kind of heard?
This week. I heard that a lot of people you know like how the bible says that enoc got taken to heaven and like he never died or whatever
Uh, and there's like the book of enoc or whatever people are people believe that enoc might have gotten abducted by aliens and that's why
Uh, he wrote all that stuff. I've heard that too. I mean I've heard a lot of it like you know
God coming back on a chariot of fire and things like that being a ufo. I've heard all sorts of stuff
There's all sorts of that sort of thing, but um, all right. So the next theory here
This is the montauk project
This theory claims that secret experiments were conducted at the montauk air force
Station in new york including time travel mind control and other technologies
Do you think our government has time control or time travel and mind control?
Technologies that are out there at least being tested time control. Maybe not mind control. Yes for sure 100%
I believe in that I do I don't know dude like there was just weird stuff that happened like in the 50s and 60s with like
Experiments and stuff like just weird stuff like really weird
Experiments that they did and so mind control could be one of them
I do not think that we have mastered or even begun to try to hit the surface of time
Time travel. I don't I don't think that but mind control. Yes, I've even heard theories about
That there are certain like wave frequencies
Like they could put a speaker in front of people and like certain wave frequencies can make different things happen or
Make you be
Compulsed to tell the truth or things like that. I've heard things like that, but there's no telling think about it like even with music like
That's the whole thing about mosh pits, right? Like yeah, you have the people aspect, but you also have the music that's like, yeah
Like I want to go punch somebody in the face like you know, so that could be a thing too like they could maybe use music or wavelengths to try to
Manipulate certain behaviors. So I I don't think that's out of the question. Yeah, I think there definitely might be something with that
This one you've probably heard about I think a lot of people heard about this. There were some viral reels memes
videos different things
The lizard people theory this theory says that they're shape-shifting aliens, which I know you talked about aliens already
But they're lizard people but on top of it. They're secretly controlling the world's governments and influential organizations
And maintain their power over humanity, but basically they're shape-shifting reptile aliens
That are living among us. I don't believe in those kind of lizard people
But I do believe in the lizard people that live in Louisiana and Mississippi and they are not smart enough to
So just kidding just kidding
day
Roasted
Boom roasted just like michael scott. I'm gonna get canceled for that one. All right
So the next one this one is actually a moon landing theory that's a little different
So this theory suggests that the moon landing was not just a part of space exploration
Like it actually happened like these people believe that the moon landing actually happened
But it suggests that the moon landing was not just a space exploration mission
But part of a secret plan to set a garden on the moon
So people argue that early lunar missions including planting special flora and that it would over time create a lush environment
And they claim that nasa's real goal was actually to prepare the moon for future colonizations
um and to try to see if lunar plants would be
A thing do you think that that could be a case like the moon landing happened and they actually planted some
Let's just chase the rabbit for a minute. Okay. Let's just chase it. Let's just say what if if we did
The land on the moon in 1969 or whatever and it was in the middle of the space race
I do not think it would be that outlandish for us to try to
Create a garden so that we could put our stake on the moon right like before russia
Before anything we could have a claim to it. We could say hey, we checked out the moon. It's livable
We're gonna plant a garden here because now that's a signifying that the united states now has ownership
And we were here first
I do not think that that is that outside of the box to think but again
That's all basing on the fact that we were the first ones to land on the moon if we I do believe we did actually land on the moon
But just not 1969 like they say we did but I don't think that that's that outland
I don't think that's that outlandish now
I will challenge it with one thing and here's where I feel like this kind of goes off track
um
They would have to have made some sort of preservationers or built some sort of dome
I would imagine like even a small one because uh, you know
The moon without having a full atmosphere or even an atmosphere at all
um
Whatever the sun hits it like whenever the moon is on its light side
It's like
250 degrees plus like it's really hot and then whenever it's on its dark side it goes below freezing
So any plant floor that came from earth would be scorched and frozen and it would definitely not work
so unless they did some sort of like
You know, they thought maybe they had plant
You know got some sort of plants that they did genetic mutations to but late 60s
How much genetic mutation technology and research had been done to that point? I don't know
That's that's the only thing that gets me is
You know the moon is a little is a harsh environment to make stuff grow
But then again, maybe they didn't think about that. Maybe they just like screw it. Let's let's plant some things
I mean, I don't know who knows. Okay. I just have a few more here
Um, actually just two more. So this next one is the submarine internet theory
So according to this theory, there is an exclusive hidden network of underwater cables that facilitate a separate internet system
used by governments and elite corporations
Um, people believe that the cables are not just for communication, but also transmitting secret data
And controlling government information flows
They claim that the existence of this network explains why there's discrepancies and internet speeds
And also outages that don't necessarily make sense because of the amount of pull that this other network is
requiring underwater
Um, now I will say this
I do know that there is part of this that is true and that is there is a network of underwater cables
That is how our world is connected and has been
Since the 1800s, um, even like with wires back in the day
Um, there's a ton of fiber optic cables on the ocean floor like there's you can look that up. So that is true
But what about the you know, there's secret networks that are going on
Well, if if it is true that there are fiber optic cables
On the ocean floor, then I don't think it's that
Outlandish to think that that's where they're running their internet system through
Um, I don't know how all that would work, but I don't think that that's like impossible
And here's where I'm going to even make this theory even more plausible google
Just they just stopped the project. Um, they spent billions of dollars on it
Um, but it was actually they put server farms underwater like they made these capsules where they put servers underwater
and the thought process was okay, we put the servers underwater and
Because servers get very hot and they need a very cool environment
We can put them in the cool ocean let the ocean water on the outside cool the environment
It just didn't work like there was a lot of connectivity issues and things like that and so it didn't work for them
So like there's some plausibility into it, but for for me like what you said
There's already cables set up and then now knowing that there are servers that have been tested underwater
Absolutely like I mean you can have underwater networks that are even inaccessible
Only by certain you know unless you're with certain means so definitely think that that could be a thing
The very last one have you ever heard about the toothpaste color codes?
Have you heard about that? No
So on every tube of toothpaste like if you go into your bathroom right now
On your tube of toothpaste on the very end like on the flat end not the cap end
Um, there will be a little mark and it'll be either green red black and each company it means different now
The theory is that all of these have meanings and if you know or and are in the know
You'll know that green means that the ingredients are all natural
Red means that there are some bad additives black means like don't use it at all
And there are some other colors in between there too, but generally that's the theory is green red black
Now the toothpaste companies say that it's actually for machines and so like the different products, right? So it's like
Mint fresh with whitening. They'll put green on that so that the machines when it's running through
It'll know when one batch ends and the next batch begins for packaging
What do you think? Do you think that this is actually secret codes?
It's like hey, there's actually bad additives in here and
And it's you know telling only certain people who are in the know use it or don't use it
No, I don't I don't think that and again, maybe it is but I I think the theory about hey
This is when the batch ends for the machines that makes sense to me like that make that makes a lot of sense
But production wise. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but like the fact it's like oh like why would they make those codes for like the people that are in the
I don't know. I feel like that's just someone wanting to be like. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm in the know like not get out of here, bro
I don't I don't believe that. Yeah, exactly. I don't think so either and a lot of
You know production lines if you watch anything even you watch modern marvels and all sorts of stuff where they have the production line stuff
A lot of it nowadays is you know, there's a little camera sensor that's going through there
So yeah, if you color code it and say, you know, it gets from green to red
I'm sure it cuts right there and you know has some sort of process with it, right?
And that makes total sense, but yeah, man. Those are some weird
conspiracies
That people believe in but pretty interesting stuff, huh? Pretty interesting. We're going to move into our next segment
Which is the donut hole and Michael, what do you have on the donut hole?
We're going to do a little bit of a game. It's going to be a little different
We have 10 food items christopher 10 food items
And we're going to go through and we're going to see if you get them right. This is what the fda says
Is the most?
unhealthy foods ranked from one to ten and we're going to see if you can get them, okay?
in order
See how see if you can get them in order. I'm going to call out these these lists
Or I'm going to call out these names. You can tell me what you think is number one or whatever and we can go from there
One being one being the absolute worst like one being the worst or ten being the worst. All right, let's go ahead
I'm going to start with the list here. There's white bread. There's sugar with sugar or i'm sorry soda with sugar content over 20 grams
fried foods
especially french fries and fried chicken
canned soups
processed cheese
potato chips
processed snacks crackers pretzels cookies and chips so pretty much processed snacks
muffins
alcohol
bacon slash hot dogs
So that's your 10 choices
And I'll remind you the 10 choices throughout the whole thing
Is there any one of those 10 choices that you're like man that really stands out as I think that's the number one
Absolute worst. Uh, I would probably say soda over 20 milligram soda over 20. Yeah, okay
Maybe bacon. I know white bread is not that good for you
Uh, but I would rank that at like maybe number three. You think white bread at three. I can put that down
I'm keeping track for you. Uh, so white bread. Uh, I feel like alcohol
I feel like alcohol is probably pretty low on the list like it's probably like
9 or 10 you think so. What would you go with 9 or 10? Uh, I would probably put that at 9 alcohol at 9. Okay
It's basically like like canned soups
process yeah cans can soups
processed cheese potato chips
processed snacks like crackers pretzels cookies chips
muffins
And then fried foods and that's what you haven't answered so far
I feel like muffins is probably like a four thing muffins are a four or five, you know, a lot of people think muffins are healthy
They're actually not and so a lot of sugar and butter. There's a lot of sugar and butter in there. Yeah, they're actually not so
Yeah, I'd probably put that at like four or five
Uh, fried foods would probably like being number two. Well, you had bacon at two
You had bacon and hot dogs at two and then like all
Oh, oh bacon at two. So I probably do like fried foods at three
and then
Four would be no four would be white white bread
You want to bump white bread to four and then muffins to five?
Yes, and then
All the processed foods that you said like the potato chips snacks. Yeah, they all fall in there
I don't know canned soups also sound like they're pretty bad for you too. So I don't know
Yeah, they're they're pretty they're pretty they're pretty bad too. Oh, that's hard
I know if filling in filling in the field is a little difficult for sure. Let's just do uh canned soups at six
And then we'll do all the processed
Stuff so like the potato chips potato chips at seven. Okay, and then um, you want to do processed snacks
Crackers pretzels at eight and then what do I have left? That's it. That's everything
Um, what's number 10? Hold on. Yeah, what is number 10? You don't have 10? Let me see what you missed
Because we got soda bacon hot dogs
Fried foods. Oh hot dogs hot bro. Oh is bacon and hot dogs are the same thing. Yeah, they're on they're on the same
Oh, yeah, then I'm leaving that at number two and then that's pretty bad. Let's see here. So
Oh process cheese process cheese is what we missed. Oh bro. That's hard. That's bad, too
So so let me know where you got it right now. So like the field you've got muffins at five out of all of them
You've got canned soups at six. You've got potatoes at seven. You've got um
processed snacks like crackers and pretzels at eight and then alcohol at nine and then tins blank
You want to bump alcohol to 10? So just so just bump everything down
And then put processed cheese
Cheese at probably number five at five. Okay. Yeah put processed cheese at five and then just bump everything else down
Okay, so the final tally for you and I'll I'll read it just like we got to do it like um
Oh, Steve Harvey and family feud and say survey says okay, so we're gonna start with 10
Number 10 you said alcohol was that survey says
Yeah, it was alcohol alcohol is it? Um
Um, all right number nine you said was processed snacks like crackers pretzels and cookies
Okay, it was actually muffins muffins were number nine
Yeah, I know that was kind of surprising for me, too. Oh, wow number seven
You said was potato or number eight. I am sorry. I can't count number eight number eight
You said was potato chips
And that was actually the processed snacks crackers pretzels that sort of thing number seven you had or yeah number seven
You had canned soups and that was the potato chips. So close there number six you had muffins
It was actually the processed cheese
so and then number five you had
White bread and it was actually the canned soups and pretty much you got the whole top part correct
The only thing that you had mixed up was pretty much you got the fried foods at four
Yeah, or I'm sorry the white bread at four the fried foods at three
sodas with sugar content over 20 g's was actually two
And then bacon and hot dogs was number one. So that was the number one worst one. I was pretty close
I was just off on one a little bit. It's hard because they're all bad for you
But yeah to run you down the whole list number ones bacon hot dogs two soda with sugar content over 20 grams
per serving three white bread four fried foods
five canned soups six processed cheese seven potato chips eight processed snacks like crackers pretzels
nine muffins and ten alcohol
So that's what at least the f the FDA says that's great. Uh, and I eat all of those almost all of those
So my body's all messed up
Yeah, so there you go typical american. No, I'm joking
All right, man. Well, I'll tell you what
Um, your body is probably ticked off at you for eating all this food
But what else are you ticked off about what fries your donuts this week, man? Oh, I don't know what I would call it
but
You know what really fries my donuts what really fries my donuts is these people that think that
Let me give you an example
they think that being a good mom is being like the good instagram mom or the good facebook mom or
uh, let me see
Doing like for me and my line of work like ministry is just a different type of work
And so they think like in order to be a good pastor or whatever
They have to be like on the stage with a microphone and all that stuff
I just don't like the people who they want to post all the cute
Fun stuff on instagram and facebook and all that stuff
But they don't want to actually do the real hard stuff like they are like couple goals
They'll be like, oh my gosh like couple goals and they see all this stuff on instagram
And they think that's what like real couples do and that's what love is and it's like, oh my gosh
If he isn't taking me out to five star dinners or this and that like he doesn't love me
I'm like love is getting up in the middle of the night to take care of your sick wife
Right like when she's you know, not feeling great going out and getting medicine. That's love dude. Like that's really love
And so I don't like these people who have like oh they want to post all the cute instagram stuff
And they try to make it like oh, yeah, I'm such a good this but really they're just posting the cute stuff for instagram
I don't like that. I don't know why I've just always been different when it comes to social media stuff like that
Do you know what I mean? No, I definitely know what you mean, man. I think that it's
It's messed up. Um, but I think a lot of it is because that's a lot of what people are being shown
um
You know, even in the days before social media, I feel like a lot of people were um
You know, I'm not going to call out previous generations, but you know some previous generations
That was almost the mantra
It was there were so many people that were hounding you about you're not a good parent or you're not doing what you're supposed to do
To where it became a more show mentality, right? And you know, I've even experienced it some of my life where
Um, they show other people and they brag to other people or they do all this stuff to other people
But then when it's actually at home or behind closed doors
You realize that everything that was being done for you was just for the image for other people to see like oh look
Look how great of a parent we were or oh look look at all we did look at the money that we spent on them
And really it's it's not even about that and a lot of times it's not even about
It sometimes not even about or as the kid. It's not what you need
It's about what they need and it's what they want to feel validated about and it's sad because the child's kind of a pawn in that
But I totally get what you mean. Yeah, and it's like oh, I'm gonna make the cute little
Little sandwiches that I saw on Pinterest and like that's what being a good mom
And it's like nah, man like being a good parent or being a good spouse or being good at your job
It's like doing the hard stuff like when you don't want to that's when it really comes to see are you a good parent?
Are you a good worker?
Are you a good partner like when it really comes to it when you don't feel like it and
You're you see people at their worst. How do you handle that? How do you treat them? That's what being a good parent is right?
Like it's not about the big like oh my gosh
We we did we had this big old trip or anything
It's about like the little car rides that you have with your kid talking to them and being present showing up to games even
If you don't post it on social media and so you're right like those people that normally do that you look and you see oh
Like they just post that stuff on Instagram or whatever. They're really not that way
But I think a lot of it's like an insecurity thing
So they want people to think that they're that way but really and truly like I don't know
I I heard people say that like as a couple if your relationship if you're always posting on like
Social media and stuff it really means that you're not that secure under your relationship
I think if you're trying to get validation from other people. Yeah, absolutely. You know, I think it's also the principle
There's a lot of athletes out there, right? I see a lot of
Football players especially to where they'll post on the offseason. They'll post all the
You know, they'll purse the a minute workout video of themselves like all these different workouts
They're doing and they're you know that sort of thing. It's just like
I get I get wanting to
You know put some of that stuff out there and I'm all about pumping yourself up and pumping up your brand
And there's a lot of that out there too
But to me if it maybe I'm different may call me old-fashioned
But if I'm looking at that if I'm a coach or if I'm somebody else I'm going
Now did they just make this video because they're actually not working out and they want me to give me the perception that they are
Or you know
And then once they get on the field is it actually going to be a thing?
You know what I mean? Are you sure that that's actually what they're doing because
You know you can cut up a few minute video and be like, okay, get me bench pressing now. All right. Yeah, let get me get me running
Sprints right quick. Yeah. Yeah, and like make it look like oh man. He's been working all day
But it's really not right and it's just a facade and so I think that that's what a lot of athletes do
It's just the the show part about it, you know
And it's just like you trying to put on the show
But what's funny about these people and I say funny very loosely what's funny about it is
And I've said this on the podcast before I have a principle whenever my kid or whatever my parents they use when I was a kid
They used to tell me hey, you need to vacuum the floor, right?
And so I would get in trouble because hey you wouldn't vacuum the floor
They could tell because there's not lines in the carpet
Right and so what I would do is I would take that vacuum out and I would go make lines in the carpet
Without it running to make it look like hey, I vacuumed the floor
But the funny thing is if I had just plugged the darn thing in I could actually vacuumed it and got the same amount of work done
And actually done something productive with my time. It's funny. A lot of these people
Do that sort of thing to try to show that they are
Doing what they need to do or they're trying are there, you know that I'm
Adequate that I'm up to snuff and it's just like bro if you
You know did all this stuff not not in front of people
But in silence that and everything else like Chris is saying
Those 110 percent items. It's like man your kids would love you 10 times more
You know what I mean? You would have such a more fulfilling experience always trying to chase somebody else's validation
Like you said, I'm old-fashioned
But if I'm a coach and I see a lot of people who are like
If I'm a coach and I see like oh you're posting these videos on instagram and stuff
My thought is is like you're too busy posting on instagram when you should be working out
Like if you're working out, I don't need to see a video on instagram
I'm gonna find out when it comes to game day. You know what I mean? Like you're gonna be like exactly
Oh, yeah, like when it comes to game day
I'm gonna know because like I said, I'm old-fashioned and so
Thing is the game is so not told so whatever you're doing in and private
It's gonna show up in public, right? Like so whenever you're
Whatever you do in practice, it's gonna show up during game day
So if you're hitting the drills if you're doing the workouts and stuff that stuff will show up during game day
It really will and so if you are being like a good parent like it doesn't matter
What you post on instagram like how is your kid acting? How is your kid treating how when you go to a restaurant?
How is your kid acting? Are they wilding out? Are they running around like?
No, and most people I don't know whose kids are very well behaved
Like they do post about their kids, but they're not always doing like the cute
Trying to be the cute instagram mom or trying to be the cute
Instagram dad like they post their kids for sure, but like you can tell like they ain't about that
Yeah, absolutely. Everybody trying to be everybody's they they ain't got time bro
They ain't got time because they're too busy parents and their kids. They ain't got time to post on social media
Yeah, while these other moms be hiding the bathroom post on social media anyways, we're not we're not social media shaming by the way
No, it's not that we're talking about we're talking about the type of people we're talking about the type of people who
We've just explained it. We ain't got to explain it no more
But yeah, man, no, I totally get what you're saying, dude
There's a lot of that everybody want to be influencers
Everybody want to be mommy influencers. What it what it is everybody want to be social media warriors nowadays
Oh, I was just gonna I was just saying just like you said games sold not told. Yeah boy
All right, we're gonna move into our next segment which is the mr. Donut. That's the improv segment and we are gonna do
fortunately
Unfortunately, I think we should do two scenarios
Do you have a scenario off the top of your head that you're thinking of now off top of my head man?
Um, all of mine are the all of mine are the typical ones
I was thinking of one at the uh at the fair the fair is about to come to town where I love. Oh, there you go
There you go. Okay. There we go. All right
So, I'm gonna go on the first one. Okay, so I'm gonna make sure you're all right
Fortunately, I'm gonna get a turkey leg this year. Unfortunately, it cost us 80 bucks just to get any of you.
Fortunately, I got that nice bonus from work. So it doesn't matter.
Unfortunately, they did not have enough volunteers to run the turkey stand. So now you have to go to the Shriners corn dog
Fortunately, I was good with corn dogs anyway, so it doesn't matter
Unfortunately, they don't have any mustard for you to put on your corn dog. Fortunately
I don't even care about mustard. So jokes on you. Unfortunately, you're gonna have to pay
$26 just for that corn dog. Fortunately
It was free with my coupon. Unfortunately
The coupon you had was for the other fair that's in the next county. Oh, fortunately
I still had that bonus from work. So just pull out the extra cash
Unfortunately, you're gonna have to go to the ATM to pull out that extra cash
And it's gonna charge you a five dollar fee just for
Pulling the cash out. Fortunately, I own the ATM so I can just pay my own premium. Unfortunately, you just got Rob
And you're about to file for big fortunately your mom. All right
All right, let's let's go the next one. I love your mom. All right. You got a night. You got an idea. Yeah, I got an idea
Um, okay at a church potluck. Ooh at a church potluck
All right, here we go
Fortunately the pastor got done with this sermon early today. So now we have more time to enjoy this potluck. Unfortunately
Brother Stan is now standing up and he talks for an hour and we got to stare at the food while he's just yakking
Well, fortunately sister Jenkins made her peach cobbler. So I have something to look forward to
Unfortunately somebody got to it before you and put the spoon in the deviled eggs and then the peach cobbler. So now it's ruined
Fortunately, that's okay. I brought my own spoon because I don't trust anybody else's cooking or serving abilities at this church potluck
Unfortunately, you found out that you actually forgot your spoon in the car. Well, fortunately
I have my good buddy Micah to go run home and get the spoon for him. Unfortunately, you're good buddy Micah lives out of town
So no you don't
Fortunately, it's okay. I'll wait. Unfortunately. You're good buddy Micah is not gonna take that kind of time for a dang spoon
Fortunately, I have amazon prime and I get next
Uh our same day delivery. So this should be here within a few hours. Unfortunately, they delivered it to the wrong address
Fortunately, my good buddy Micah is gonna go pick it up from the wrong address. I'm not gonna pick it. No, I'm joking
Unfortunately, you good buddy Micah
I broke his leg and now he's immobile. Okay. I can't say what I wanted to say. I'm not going there. It was too mean
It's too mean. I'm not going there. Well, ladies and gentlemen
That was our uh mystery donut our improv segment and uh, yeah, have you what's the weirdest thing you've ever had to eat at a church potluck?
Oh man, so
Pig's feet
Oh, that's that's where I learned I did not like pigs feet. I'll go ahead and say that
How about you? I think something would like it was something would like hear me jello by itself
Is fine. Do not put things in jello. Do not put any kind of
Things within the jello because it's not cool like even if it's fruit like don't
Don't make that into the jello jello by itself is fine
but anything
In the jello it wasn't necessarily potluck but like Thanksgiving
I don't know why people love putting crap and stuffing that shouldn't be in stuffing
Like I really don't understand why I remember a few potlucks where people put like raisins and like grapes and stuff
It's like, what are you doing? All right. Well, we're well, we're gonna move into our final segment
And that's our eclair, which is our positive advice and Micah
What do you have for us, buddy before my positive advice? You don't really fries my donuts putting raisin. I'm joking
Um for my I know you really do have like a beef about that you talk about that like a lot during Thanksgiving time
Every I talk about like everything's giving. Yeah. Well Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday
So it cuts me real deep when people be screwed with it
No, um
It's it's all good. It's all good. Um, all right for my eclair, which is our positive advice
My eclair this week is it's okay to realize a plan's not working and move on
It you know something that's really really hard and I've struggled with it quite a bit is
um, you you make a plan you get a little a few steps down the road and
You know, you ignore the warning signs that hey the plan is not working
But you're like man, I'm already here and I think it's gonna work if I just keep going
Sometimes you just gotta realize hey the plan ain't working and maybe we need to
We're either revise the plan or maybe we need to figure out a new plan and a lot of times what happens is
You you stick with this plan and then you get down the road and you go man
Why did I stick with this for so long? I could have been working on something new or a different course of action
and so
You know failure is a part of the learning process and I think a lot of people that's something that's really forgotten and not said
Uh too much. I know we've all heard the whole like oh, yeah, Thomas Edison with the light bulbs and you know
How many times he tried and failed at that and whatnot?
You know trying and failing is a part of it, but I think realizing that hey
I had a plan to begin with that's more than some people right you made a plan
You started putting into action. You found a way it's not gonna work
Yeah, that's ultimately going to lead to your success down the road
But the whole thing is you got to stop it in his tracks if it's not working and it's okay to
Admit an L. It's okay to take an L to get the W later. You know what I mean? So for sure man for sure mine is
And Mike and I reference this book
Every so often when we talk about each other or talk with each other about our time in
Our youth group, but there was a book that we read it was called do hard things and that's uh,
That's that's my positive advice is do hard things and I'm speaking just because
I've had to do a lot of hard things recently. I've had to have some tough conversations
Um last week and it was really scary for me to do the right thing
But when you do the right thing and you do the hard thing at least you can lay down at night and say
You know what? I did my best and I did what was right and it's scary really scary to do the right thing sometimes
And sometimes it may cost you some things
But in the end it's worth it. It may not feel like it right now
But when you do the right thing, I promise it pays off and so do the hard things
If you need courage go to your friends go to those around you
And so I'm thankful that I have such an amazing support system
uh,
Micah being included in that of helping me do the hard thing and it is hard
But I promise it's worth it because when you look back at your life, you don't want to say
Oh, well, I wish I would have done this or I wish I would have stood up or like Micah said
I wish I would have realized that the plan wasn't working sooner and just abandoned it instead of just
You know trying to just suck it up and make it through
So do the hard things and it will all work out. I promise. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Good stuff, man. Good stuff
Well, here we are at the end of another episode. It's been great
And we're over here all the time at the trash can network over at the trash can network and uh,
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But you'll definitely see it over at the aviator society over on instagram as well
Where we also got tons of content always coming out and so man, uh, it's been
Like I say every week it's been going great over there. Um, I I enjoy doing that kind of stuff
I enjoy pumping out some of that content. So
Uh, go check it out. Go see what you like and you know, go like and subscribe and come follow us
Come tell us what you think. We really appreciate you guys, especially all around the world
It's been a great journey so far
We got big things even coming and so you guys really are the og's on the ground level and we really appreciate that
So man, I don't have anything else. How about yourself? No, I think that's a cue for the starship to take us out
All right, man. Well, I'm Michael and I'm Chris and this is the dot-a-box podcast
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In my heart that I'm feeling for you
Let them see we're crazy
I don't care about that
Put your hands in my hand, baby. Don't ever look back
Let the wound around us
Just fall apart
Baby, we can make it if we're hard to hold
And we can build the streets together
Standing strong forever
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If this world runs out of numbers
We'll still have each other
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