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So Micah, I need you to explain something to me. Maybe you know about this trend. Maybe I'm the only one who doesn't know about it.

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But can you explain something to me? Okay, what's up?

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Why is it that the younger generations have like spam accounts? Like for Instagram, like the younger generations, they have like two, three, sometimes four different Instagram or Facebook accounts.

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Like what is that all about?

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From what I understand, man, is to be able to, you have a spam or a trash account so that you can freaking talk mess to people or leave comments on people.

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And it's not on your main page, right? So like your main page has your mom, you know, like some other, some other people maybe you don't want to see.

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And I've even seen it to where it's like, you know, some, some ladies maybe want to put something a little bit more risque out there.

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So they'll make a separate account of some sort so that, you know, they kind of only let certain people see, you know, basically you have to request to follow them and they can approve or deny you.

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And, you know, that's what I think. I don't know. I think that's what it is mainly. But I think a lot of it is so that they can talk mess.

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And that's what, you know, the basketball player Kevin Durant, apparently that's what he did. He had a few burner accounts just so he could talk mess to his haters without it being his main account.

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But a lot of these I'm seeing that they're still the same picture and the still like the same name and everything.

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And it says like spam account like under the bio, but like, but so they'll talk crap to other people being that account like as themselves.

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They just don't want their mom or someone they care about to see. Is that what it is?

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Pretty much. And like, and what they'll do is so you there, you know, there's so many scams going around where it's like people get their account hacked or whatever, right?

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And so even if you say your mom or your grandma sees like what's going on or somehow finds out, be like, oh, well, that's a spam account.

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They must have hacked me or something like that. And then you can just make up some excuse and get off the hook, right?

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So like, you put spam account all over the place. So even if the other people do find it, because that is the dumb part.

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I'm not going to say who, but there was some family members in my family who did that, right?

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And pretty much like, yeah, they use the same pictures and everything.

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So you know that it's different, but they also didn't change their privacy settings up enough to where you couldn't see some of their pictures.

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And you could definitely tell exactly what was going on with that situation.

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And they popped up in the you should be friends list because, you know, that's how the algorithm works.

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They'll find people you, you know, and so it's it's interesting.

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But for the most part, bro, I bet you I bet you some of your family members have burner accounts, talk mess certain people talk mess of, you know, people who are talking about Steph Curry and stuff.

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You know me? Oh yeah. Well, thank you for explaining that. I'm Chris and I'm Micah and this is the Donut Box podcast.

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Well, I got to shout out my boy Micah that intro music that you just heard was an arrangement put together by my boy Micah.

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So want to shout out, bro? Like you're you're making a Donut Box original music right now.

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You put the song out there. I didn't realize you put the song out there. But hey, that's that's cool.

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Yeah, I actually put it in the last episode, but I didn't shout you out in the last episode.

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So my bad. I need to shout out.

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Yeah, that's all good, man. You know, it's interesting. I put that together on a free piece of software.

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It took a little bit of time, but like I think it turned out pretty darn decent.

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I think it turned out pretty darn decent. We got some other things in the works and, you know, amateur beatmaker over here.

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I'm making DJ Flame come out in real life. You know what I mean?

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Yeah, I love it. Well, happy Monday. Happy Labor Day weekend to all those.

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I don't know if any other countries celebrate Labor Day, but we do here in America.

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And I'm going to ask you, do you remember the days when you would work at a retail job or like a fast food job in Labor Day and them holidays?

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Didn't mean nothing. It didn't mean nothing. Or if you worked in a retail, sometimes they'd be having sales like Labor Day sales.

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So like it's even busier because everybody's off and they want to come and hit you up on the sale.

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So it's like, I do remember those days. I even remember, you know, Thanksgiving Christmas having to work Thanksgiving Christmas too.

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I don't know, man. I like having those days off. That's for sure.

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Oh, yeah. I'm very thankful that I work in a job now to where I can have those days off and have extended time off other than just Christmas Day

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and maybe Thanksgiving Day. And so I'm very thankful for that.

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But welcome to the Dona Box Podcast. This is our free flow episode. And Micah, this is episode 41, but this is also episode 145 that we have been doing.

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Total. That's crazy. 145. So think about this. 145 consecutive weeks we've been going at this thing. That's pretty crazy, man.

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We're coming up on season four or two. We're coming up on, I mean, 100. It's wild. It's wild. I can't believe it.

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So we are going to ask each other some questions. I love our free flow episodes because we kind of do jumping off points and then we just never know where it's going to take us.

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But do you want to start with the first question or do you want me to start with the first question?

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Man, do you have a burning question? I mean, all of my questions are good, but like, so if you got a burning one, go for it. Go for it.

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So kind of going back to what we were talking about in the intro about the younger generations having these burner accounts, these spam accounts,

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how do you think you as a kid would survive in this generation? Like if you were to be a kid now and or do you say, you know what, I'm glad that I grew up in the times that I grew up in.

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I don't think I'd survive. Like what would your answer be to that question?

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It's kind of a blend. In first and foremost, I'm going to say this about the intro there, pre-podcast banter, if you will.

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I was actually surprised you had had that question. You know, I thought you were up on what the kids are into and what they do in rent.

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I mean, I know some of it's pretty confusing, but but like I thought you knew that.

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So really and truly like I work with elementary kids and I lead a I guess they don't really have burner account.

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Like they're not the they're not to the point of having burner accounts. I get you.

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Yeah, I lead a sixth grade boys small group at church, but other than that, like my kids don't have social they have phones,

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but most of them don't have social media. So I didn't know like that was a thing.

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Maybe that's why I'm worried about volunteering at church is because, you know, you volunteering and doing the sixth grade boys, man,

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for how much crap we gave our youth leaders and stuff, I know what goes around comes around and, you know,

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I'm glad you're having to take the heat, not me. So hopefully you take the heat from me.

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Anyways, I'm joking, joking, but back to what you were saying. I think it's a mix, man. It's really there are some aspects that I liked back then.

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Of course, I think one of the biggest things and I'm going to sound like an old man, but it was definitely a simpler time back then.

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I mean, the thing was for a while there, you know, you didn't have internet. You don't have cell phones readily available.

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There were different things to where there was a lot of things that weren't playing and taking up your mind's energy, right?

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That you weren't having to that you didn't have on you all the time.

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And I think that's what is different about this generation. Like part of childhood, mostly teenage years, we had social media and things like that,

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but it definitely wasn't to the point where it was today. Even that was way simplified, right? The versions of what it was today.

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And I think for me, I do miss that sort of thing. I miss, you know, the days of not having a cell phone attached to your hip all the time.

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Like there are good qualities to that. There are good things and I think we should get more to that.

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Being a kid now, man, there's some crazy stuff, right? I think about you and I and first of all, I don't think our parents would have allowed us to have video game systems

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in the Xbox Live or PlayStation Live, you know, like this or anything like this.

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But that is more accessible now than ever, right? Kids play games with their friends online way more than and that's something I would have loved as a kid.

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Those summer days where it was like you and I would call each other up and shoot the crap because there was nothing else going on.

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We could have been on a game, right? We could have listened, man. We could have been on Grand Theft Auto being stupid.

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You know, again, my parents wouldn't let me have Grand Theft Auto.

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Again, our parents probably wouldn't have let us do the online bit either. Probably wouldn't have paid that and did all that anyways.

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But what I'm saying is, you know, saying that maybe you would have something like that. Absolutely.

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I think that would be pretty fun. Not just that cell phones with unlimited texting, things like that.

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Oh, yeah, like that would have been those were the things that were kind of important to me at the time.

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And then not just that, but I know this sounds kind of dumb, but like TV rights and things like that were a lot different.

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You have way more stuff on demand. Like if I if I could go back and tell my eight, nine, 10 year old self, like, hey, you know, there when you when you get to be an adult,

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pretty much you can get anything on demand, including live TV. It's not just like TVO because you used to have like TVO or you can pause TV and record it and stuff like that.

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No, that's pretty much you can get that pretty much on the fly for most places now.

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Most places have streamlined it because back then it was very expensive. If you wanted to order like a movie or something.

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Oh, very much. You almost have to pay like 20 bucks or I don't know how much the movie cost, but it was expensive to get things on demand.

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It was expensive. It was almost like, you know, you might as well go out and go buy the movie.

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It was just about that expensive, I would imagine. So it's, you know, on demand was not a heard of thing.

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And so just thinking about how because, you know, football seasons here, especially college football, and what I was thinking about is whenever I was a kid,

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you know, that's what I like to watch during that time of year. But because of TV rights and stuff, like I could barely watch Texas Tech Game.

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That's why because it's out of market. Now you can watch all these out of market games. No big deal, right? With one of these streaming services.

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Again, granted, what my parents have paid for all that and, you know, had all that to be readily available, probably not.

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So it's still probably not a thing. But I think there are some advantages, you know, either or. I think there are, you know, there are some things I would like to go back and have.

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Shoot, I know it's all about inflation and whatnot, but shoot, give me give me the prices of when I was a kid.

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Like I remember the prices of everything. It's just like, man, if we had them prices now, be living like a king.

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Kind of going back to the Xbox Live thing, I remember back then Xbox Live was like, it was a big deal and it was also pretty expensive.

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So if you had Xbox Live, it was kind of like, yeah, it was. It was a big deal.

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Nowadays, it's just it was a rich kid thing. It was a rich kid thing.

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If you were a kid and had that, that was a very rich kid thing to have. It wasn't everybody that had that.

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And also going back to the social media thing, social media was pretty brand new.

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It was kind of developing and all this stuff. And so for me, it wasn't that big of a deal when I was probably, I'd say probably up until middle school.

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Now, I know in high school, then it became a little bit more advanced and I could really tell like that's when it really started to affect me a little bit more of having social media and seeing people like posting all their stuff and their vacations and all that stuff.

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And so I think that social media now with our kids consuming all the content, I think it's really not healthy for because kids nowadays, like if you look at these studies,

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they struggle with anxiety and fear and depression way more than we ever did. And I think it's because of all the content that they're consuming.

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I don't there are other factors to that, but I think that level of anxiety is heightened we've seen in the in the next two generations.

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And I'm going to I'm going to even expand upon that. We'll rabbit hole on this a little bit too.

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I think a lot of it has to do with kind of going back to the original what I was saying about the simplicity of those times.

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Why do people say, Oh, it was simpler times. It's because we come in contact with so many layers in our life.

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If that makes sense. Do the whole Shrek line, you know, Oh, gooders have layers. I'm joking. No, we come with layers.

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You know, how many times have you caught yourself? You'd be sitting on the couch. You're watching TV, right?

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You're screwing around on your phone. You're doing something like that. Imagine so you I've even seen it.

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I'll look at my wife sometimes and we'll be watching TV should be texting with somebody while she's got a video plan on her phone.

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Think about how much stimulation all of that is all at one time and how much is your mind is having to intake and process and go through all at one time.

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That's a lot like that is a ton that is way more than we've ever had to do as human beings.

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Like, you know, and so now we have these generations that are being born into this world where that is the expectation because you look at what you have to do at work.

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You have to do a lot of multitasking. You have to basic. I mean, most jobs, you have to know how to operate a computer, right?

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Most people know how to operate their phones. Most jobs either you have to know how to operate your phone or operate the computer, right?

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And a lot of the times it's you're doing your job while doing something on the computer or you're doing your job while on the phone.

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So there's all this stuff bombarding you all the stinking time. Not just that, but you know, I've seen other people do this too.

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And it's it's okay. But have you seen these apps that you can get on your phone and they'll pay you per year?

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But basically, their advertisements like it'll pump you advertising on your on your lock screen whenever you lock your home, your phone's lock screen.

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And so think about this night, day, whatever is advertising, advertising, advertising, advertising, advertising.

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And so, you know, it might seem innocent, but I don't think people realize how taxing it is on people on your mind.

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Like, I think it just blends in after a while, but it's very taxing on people. And we're talking about kids too, where they're being subjected to that automatically.

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I think it's very, you know, I'm concerned about what's going to happen. I think it will have negative effects to the younger generations for sure.

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It will have a negative effect. But on the flip side of that, there is a positive because I feel like this generation, generation alpha and Gen Z,

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they're a lot more creative and they are able to accomplish a lot more. And but what's also to going back to your conversation about the content and anxiety and all that stuff,

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because they're exposed to content a lot earlier, now a third grader, you kind of have to treat them like a fifth grader in today's society.

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And a fifth grader, you kind of got to treat them like a seventh or an eighth grader because of the amount of content.

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Now, I know different people have different parenting styles. So they may monitor like what they expose their kids to.

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But even if you try to kind of shield your kids from that and they go to public school, like their friends have phones.

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So they're always showing each other different stuff on their phones.

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And so it's really truly because of that development, because they're having to minds have to catch up.

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I feel like a first grader again, you have to treat kind of almost like a third grader in some aspects.

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Absolutely. And it's just because of how much I mean, with something like the Internet comes, there's a lot of knowledge in that.

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Now, knowledge is always has, you know, a lot of times has a good connotation.

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But at the same time, it could be good knowledge, it could be bad knowledge. There's all sorts of stuff that's out there.

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And, you know, especially when you're talking about, and I know we're breaking off into even more.

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But a lot of these kids, you know, a lot of the disorders are up. Attention deficit disorder, ADHD, all of those things are up.

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And why is that? I think a lot of it is because TikTok is massive, right?

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YouTube shorts are now a really big thing. And I know because I'm putting it on the platform, the 60 seconds or less,

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there is such a crowd for that. And a lot of it is younger people, like the demographic is, you know, 20s and younger, a lot of the time.

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And so think about how much content you can intake from all these different varying sources and about all these different topics at 60 seconds at a time, right?

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Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, just left and right. And, you know, I don't know if you've heard the term, but there's what's called doom scrolling.

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Have you heard about that? People literally, it's almost, I wouldn't say it's like an addiction, but people get sucked into it to where they just scroll for hours.

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And so it's the 60 second videos or these short videos that are just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You think about that for hours, right?

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Say you do that for an hour or two hours, that's, you know, 60 to 100 videos, 6 to 120 videos that you've watched. That's a lot of information to intake.

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Like that's insane.

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Sorry, we kind of went on a way big rabbit hole, but that's okay. It's our podcast so we can do what we want.

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Hey, that's what these free flow episodes are all about, right?

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So what question do you have next?

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Okay, so my question for you. We kind of talked about this on a previous free flow, but this is a little different.

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What was one of your favorite TV shows from your childhood and what would you say, or how would you say it's influenced your taste today?

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Oh man, that's hard because, and Micah can relate to this, our parents raised us kind of with the older generation.

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So they were kind of definitely old school in their beliefs and definitely taste in TV. So I did watch a lot of older shows.

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But of course one that I loved was Walker Texas Ranger. You know, Walker Texas Ranger. I loved that one.

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Going back and watching it now, you're like, man, that was very cheesy.

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Oh, it's incredibly cheesy. It's very, and the funny thing is he, they get into a lot of situations that they don't necessarily have to get into.

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But anyways, go ahead.

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Oh, COPS was probably a big one when I was in high school because I wanted to go.

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COPS, yeah.

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But as far as like the TV lineup, home improvement, fresh prints, Saved by the Bell, those were all good shows that I loved.

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And of course as a kid, like, you know, I liked watching Arthur, all that good stuff.

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We talked about Bible Man the other night when we were gaming and that was the one that.

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So honestly, I don't know what it is. I just enjoyed like just different kinds of shows and kind of,

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as I know, I know you're asking about my childhood, but I was like very, I would say sheltered, not sheltered, but kind of a little bit more.

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My parents were a little bit more conservative in what they let me watch.

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Umbrella.

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And so, and so I missed out on watching a lot of good movies from that era.

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Fast forward to when I'm in high school, moving out, and then I get in a relationship with my now ex-wife.

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She was very controlling about what I could watch and what I couldn't watch.

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So there were a lot of movies that I didn't see.

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And so during the period of my divorce and everything, like I watched a ton of movies, like just some that I was like, man, these are such great iconic, iconic movies, but I've never seen them.

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And so I just took like a self discovery of, hey, I'm going to watch all these movies and I'm always a sucker for like a good story.

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So it doesn't matter, like you can get, you can grab my attention and I can be invested in the story.

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And so really and truly, I know that was a long answer, but I don't know if it affects the way that I see TV shows now.

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But again, I kind of go back to those like comfort shows like the Bernie Mac show, King of the Hill, my wife and kids, the office, like all those comfort shows I have to watch.

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Like I can't watch anything super serious before bed and it takes a lot for a TV show to like get my attention.

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Do you still watch Everybody Loves Raymond? Do you still watch that one?

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Yeah, we watched Everybody Loves Raymond, but we didn't watch Everybody Loves Raymond until I got older.

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Again, we've talked about this on the podcast about how both of our parents were kind of like and the church we grew up in was like, yeah, they just kind of make fun of Ray because he's kind of a jerkwad, a clueless dad that doesn't know what's going on.

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And so I wasn't really allowed to watch a lot of shows like that.

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Yeah, it was bad imagery on the father of the family.

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Yeah, I couldn't watch Spy Kids 2 for that reason.

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Oh, because they kind of crapped on the dad, really?

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Yeah, they kind of got like on the bad guy. What was his name? Donovan?

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, so it was kind of that way. I remember I watched it only once and then they were like, yeah, you're not watching this ever again, which is okay because that's literally the worst Spy Kids of all three.

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But what about you? What were some shows that you're like, man, this influenced me and now it influences the way that I watch TV shows today?

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You know what's really interesting, what you were talking about being sheltered?

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I think the first time that I really broke out TV show wise, I remember so my parents, they had jobs until five o'clock, but I got out of school.

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It was early. It was like 2.45 and I would walk home and so it'd be about three o'clock.

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So I'd have like two, two and a half hours whenever they would get home and I couldn't go outside.

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I was a latchkey kid.

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They were so afraid about somebody abducting me and I was like six foot at like 10.

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So it's like it would have had to work to get me in the van anyways.

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So, you know, home improvement was one, but for me, I remember where it was like, oh, this is kind of interesting because we only had

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20 channels. We had basic.

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That was more than me.

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I only had 20 channels.

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I think you guys had like what three, four, six.

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Okay. Well, it's a little better than I thought.

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We had 20 and one of them was would always have Jerry Springer on and then the other one had the other one had Dr. Phil.

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And like I didn't really know about so Jerry Springer is kind of where I learned about a lot of things.

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Like I did not know what certain things were. I did not know what trans people were at all until that show came about.

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And it was it was the era of Jerry Springer.

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Like and I tend to watch it back now and like the earlier ones were kind of tame.

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And I think it was probably for insurance reasons that they couldn't have people.

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It's like after a while, bro, I was I was like in the wild phase of Jerry Springer where they had like and you know, I'm sorry to some of our listeners here,

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but they had like stripper poles in the middle of the freaking thing.

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And like, I mean, it was it was pretty like I was you watch it back and I was like, man, I'll watch this as a kid.

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You were you started off watching it when Jerry was just trying to help people and then he gave up and he was like, well, this is already a circus.

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Yeah. He's like, you watch you watch the pizza era episode.

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Yes, I did. I'm pretty sure I probably saw it.

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It was exactly the pizza era.

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And what he's referring to is there's this big anyways, you can watch Jerry Springer and you figure it out.

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Yeah, skip over that.

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Yeah, we're going to go talk about that.

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Watch the episode for the best.

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Good memory, though, getting ready for Chris's wedding.

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Like that's exactly what we did.

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We were getting ready at his apartment and we were watching Jerry Springer and that episode came anyways.

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So there was like that.

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And then Dr. Phil, I know Dr. Phil was kind of, but those kind of opened my world to like trash reality TV, I guess.

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And, you know, I wouldn't say that I watch stuff like that now, but I do.

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I could tell I tend to watch like parking wars.

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Some of these other ones to where they're they're pretty fake.

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Right. They're pretty fake shows, but they're they're funny.

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I don't know how to describe it.

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So I think it does.

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It did influence me to a certain degree.

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And, you know, how much of that is because I, you know, I do think it's funny, but how much of it is because everybody else in my life were like, those shows are garbage.

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That's trash.

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You don't want to watch that kind of thing.

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And it's kind of like, oh, fun, risque to watch things that are.

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But your whole family is a Jerry, Jerry Springer episode.

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I'm just telling you.

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I mean, and maybe that's what it is.

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Maybe that's why they didn't want me watching it is because maybe a family member had been on there at one point.

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They just told me to see the story line to me is that your your parental units were so worried about someone abducting you, but they gave you access to Internet and TV like at home, which is why now I have a question.

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When was the era or phase that you just started watching Family Guy?

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Was it just, hey, it's on.

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So I'm just going to start watching it pretty much.

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Yeah.

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That's pretty much what it was.

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Actually, so it's it was actually fifth grade, fifth grade because it was adult swim is where I started watching that.

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And that was because me and this other kid, I wouldn't say like we were the black sheep of the grade.

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But like, we were kind of the troublemakers.

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Like, one, once I got older didn't really happen.

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But one of the things that we thought were really cool was it was like, oh, yeah, like, yeah, I'm not going to watch this.

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Like we can watch adult swim and we can watch like robot chicken was the thing.

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I don't know why in the fifth grade it was like robot chicken was funny, but it was edgy as mess.

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Right.

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Like it was definitely not for fifth graders at all.

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And so started watching that.

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But what came on a lot before that was King of the Hill Family Guy, that sort of thing.

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Now, I did like King of the Hill back then, but I didn't understand it as much as I did.

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Once I got older, like once I got older, Family Guy, I feel like there's a lot of jokes that I didn't fully get till I got older.

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But there's enough stupid humor in there to make kids laugh.

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Like I think that's what I don't know how to describe that.

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That is very true.

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I remember you wanting me to watch Family Guy when we were over and I was like, no, like I shouldn't.

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It's not it's not good.

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And kind of what like what was the breaking part for me was when I went to Washington, D.C. on that trip, I was rooming with this kid named Billy.

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And Billy was like, let's watch this show.

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And I was like, hmm, like we really shouldn't.

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And like it was on and I was like, OK, this show isn't that bad.

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It's kind of funny.

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And then that's when like whenever I got back, I was like, hey, like it's OK if we watch Family Guy.

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Now, even now, like I still don't like the jokes that they make about Jesus and like all that stuff.

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Like that bothers me.

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So now that it's on streaming, I'll skip that.

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But like, yeah, back then I would just kind of like, no, this is not OK.

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It was one of those things it's like I think it was because it was at least in, you know, for my parents when the ads would come on or stuff like that.

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It's just like that's not a kid's cartoon.

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That's a bad cartoon kind of thing.

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And then you come to watch it, though.

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And it's like it's really not that bad.

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Even as a kid, even the jokes I didn't understand.

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Yeah, they're raunchy and yeah, they're kind of edgy.

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But really and truly, it's like I could have went on the Internet and found a ton worse even at the time.

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Right.

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Well, what's what's weird is I like, we remember when we would have like I spend the night at your house and we would watch TV and like we watched Dave Chappelle.

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And I thought Dave Chappelle was funny.

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Like I didn't think it was that bad.

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And so but I thought Family Guy was way worse than Dave Chappelle.

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So I was like, Dave Chappelle, he's funny.

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I'm going to watch him.

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Family Guy, no.

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And in reality, Dave Chappelle was like probably pretty up there.

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Like we didn't get the jokes, a lot of jokes that he was making.

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But I thought he was funny.

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So I was like, yeah, he's cool.

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He's cool with me if we watch it.

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But see, my thing is I think it was the general premise.

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And again, it's like even if you're not getting the in depth jokes of like what they're talking about, he was loud and had that goofy voice at the time enough to make kids laugh.

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It just was funny to watch.

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That was actually interesting to think about.

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I figure most cable packages at the time, you know, I remember having those 20 channels,

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but Cartoon Network was one of them and Comedy Central was one of them.

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And that was kind of interesting because typically they come with more like premium packages.

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So I'm not sure how that was a thing.

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Comedy Central and Cartoon Network are both on the Turner.

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And that makes sense.

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Brand of whatever it is.

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And being in Georgia, you probably got the Turner brand of whatever it was.

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Doesn't Turner.

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They have a stake in Comcast.

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I'm pretty sure we had Comcast because I think all of our channels pretty much because we had TNT, TBS, like all the other ones too.

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So probably makes sense.

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Yeah, that probably makes that that makes a lot of sense why you got those channels.

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Yeah.

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So pretty much my TV nostalgia apparently was brought to you by Turner Broadcasting.

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Praise God.

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That's great.

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So kind of moving on to like a progression because that's great because last question kind of leads into this next question.

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When was the moment or maybe moments or things that happened in your life where you realized, hey, I'm officially an adult now.

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Like, hey, I'm actually an adult where you kind of moved from.

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Yeah, like I'm still kind of a teenager, young kid now to, hey, like I'm a actual adult.

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That's a good question.

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I still go through that sometimes.

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And I think mine is more money wise.

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Like how do I put this money wise?

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Like there'll be some things that I want or something like that and I'll be like, oh, no, I can't do that.

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And it's just like, man, it's my money.

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I can do what I want with it.

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Like sometimes sometimes like stuff like that.

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But I think for me, man, so it was moving out of my last apartment where I had a roommate, right?

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And, you know, I was with my wife and we moved to an apartment and it was our first apartment.

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You know, just the two of us.

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And I remember it took pretty much the whole time that I was there the whole like first year

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to realize like, hey, you can hang out in the living room without it being, you know, nobody else is here.

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You can hang out in the living room sort of thing.

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I don't know if that's necessarily an adult thing, but like, at least in my house, like,

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at least in my household, whenever I was a kid, it wasn't necessarily like I wasn't allowed in the

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living room, but that was not my space, right? Like that was absolutely not my space.

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Well, you didn't have a reason to really go to the living room because you had a TV in your room,

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like all your stuff was in your room.

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Like you go to the kitchen, grab food, and then like there was really no reason to hang out.

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Did I ever tell you why I had a TV in my room?

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It was because they got, they got mad.

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So pretty much what happened was like, we would never like agree on what to watch.

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And what ended up happening, I don't remember, it was like this big blow up fight.

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And I really think it was just an excuse for my parental units to buy a new TV.

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But they were just like, we're sick and tired of having this fight of like what to put on and whatnot.

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So it's like, we're, because I remember it was a, it was the bubble TV, like it was the bubble,

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you remember that thing, the bubble TV?

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And it was like, had that biggest problem that I had, like,

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oh, I can share this story.

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The biggest problem that I had, I don't know if you remember this, but the,

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the jack in my room, like the cable jack did not work.

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So it was like, if I wanted to get cable, what I had to do was we had like rabbit ears,

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but it was like one of the kind of modern ones, like more modern ones, I guess.

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And I just remembered, like sometimes it would work in the room.

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And then sometimes you would have to kind of like stick it outside the window,

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you remember that, or you'd have to like stick it outside the window.

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I don't, I don't know any of this.

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Like all this that you're telling me is like brand new news to me.

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Really? You don't remember this?

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Yes. Like I don't think we've ever talked about this.

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The funny part was like, you would, well, I guess it makes sense because most of the time

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when you came over, at least when I had the bubble TV, because I had the bubble TV, right?

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And then I remember like I started doing chores and like, I saved up some money and I bought a,

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a small flat screen TV.

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Like I bought that with my own money.

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I remember that, like, and so I moved on to that thing.

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Which back then flat screen was like top of the, like, like,

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super top of the line.

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Thank you for you to get a flat screen TV.

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You know, I still got that TV too.

373
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Like it's funny because I thought it was super thin back then and that thing is bulky as mess.

374
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:40,720
Anyways, I end up like these, it had these like little rabbit ears, right?

375
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,000
And so sometimes it worked in, in the room.

376
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,440
Sometimes it did not.

377
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:51,280
For some reason, and I have no idea why, when it would not work in the room and you're holding it

378
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:56,480
outside the window to get the signal, literally you would have to hold on to this thing.

379
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,480
I don't know why, but like if you held it, you would get a signal.

380
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:05,200
But if you like released it, because there was kind of a hook on the, kind of on the outside

381
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,960
wall there that you could hook it to, you know, if you just hooked it up there and like thought,

382
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,240
okay, yeah, it's going to do that.

383
00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:14,400
And you even tried to adjust it on the hook, like would not work if you weren't touching it.

384
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,520
I have no idea why.

385
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,120
Like touching it was the key.

386
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,560
So a lot of the times, like if you weren't getting a signal, you just walk over there,

387
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,320
touch it or like, WAP it.

388
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,400
And all of a sudden you start getting a signal.

389
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,680
I have no idea why.

390
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,320
That's wild.

391
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,440
Because it was wild.

392
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:32,800
Kids today will never know like that or like whenever, because most of the time now,

393
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:38,320
like video games are digital, but whenever you would put a like disc in the Xbox or PlayStation

394
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,560
or whatever and it wouldn't work and you'd be putting it on the screen and you'd be secretly

395
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:48,480
hoping it would load or you'd have to like tap the Xbox or tap the PlayStation and then it would

396
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,040
load like the feeling of, yes, it's finally working.

397
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,640
Like sometimes the game will work.

398
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,080
Sometimes it won't like, will it work today or not?

399
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:56,320
Yeah.

400
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,920
Kids will these days will never know.

401
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:04,080
See, I only ever remember really the glass screen TV, but I never knew why you had a TV

402
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:04,480
in your room.

403
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,480
I thought your parents just was like, hey, like we're going to just put a TV in his room.

404
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,120
I never knew that.

405
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,920
But see, and then the dumb part was there for a little bit, it was kind of off and on

406
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:19,520
because they put the TV in the room and then there was like a series of time where I didn't

407
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,960
get good grades and so they like to took the power cable to the TV.

408
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,440
So it just sat there like it was there, but it just, you know, you couldn't do anything with it.

409
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:37,920
And then I remember getting the power cord back and like, I don't think I had it for a year or

410
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,320
two.

411
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,520
Like it was, I didn't have it for too long before I got that flat screen.

412
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,800
Feeling like an adult was obviously when I moved out, right?

413
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,760
Like when I was living with you guys, that was part of it.

414
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:53,840
Like having my own apartment and just being having to pay bills and having you set up

415
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,320
electricity and all that stuff, which I did that when I was 19 or 20.

416
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:04,480
But I don't think I really felt like officially I have become an adult and this is going to

417
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:10,400
sound really morbid, but until after my dad like passed away, just because like having to deal with

418
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,040
the funeral arrangements, having to be there to like carry the weight of the family, like that

419
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,160
put a lot on me.

420
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:21,920
And so it was kind of like, I couldn't go back to like, Hey, like I'm just going to go out and

421
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,600
just do whatever.

422
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,880
Like I think that really kind of shifted my mindset.

423
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:33,040
And so like on the other side of that, I was like, Oh, like this is what being an adult really is.

424
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:38,960
And so for me, that's when I kind of felt that shift to where it's like, Hey, like I'm an adult,

425
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:44,320
like I'm like you now where it's like, Hey, I still sometimes like, man, they let me be an adult

426
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,320
or Hey, they let me be in charge.

427
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,440
Like what?

428
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:52,080
Like I'm, but I think that's just the kid at heart and that we both have like that.

429
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,200
Yeah, absolutely.

430
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,280
Well, and going back to the original, I know we kind of dove off on another thing.

431
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:02,560
I'll tell you where my mind where I distinguish the whole like, Hey, I'm mortal.

432
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,360
You know, when you're younger, it's like, man, you feel immortal.

433
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,120
You feel like nothing can take you out.

434
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,360
I remember the moment where it was like, Oh man, I could, I could go at any time.

435
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,800
I was, I was flying like I was actually flying the plane.

436
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,520
Like I was doing a flight lesson and I took off and this is whenever I was an adult,

437
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:25,120
like the second time around going to flight school and I took off and it was very gusty that day.

438
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,840
And I didn't apply enough right rudder and for those pilots out there, you know exactly what

439
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:30,640
I'm talking about.

440
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:36,000
And we went into a slip, which is I could explain it, AKA it's not very good.

441
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,560
And when you're very low off the ground, you know, it could very easily equal death.

442
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:46,640
And so being that low to the ground, looking at the ground, I remember being like, Yep,

443
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:47,440
we could die.

444
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,880
We could die today.

445
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:56,240
And that was the, and like, that was the moment that I realized like, yeah, it could happen

446
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:56,880
anytime.

447
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,280
Like, I don't know that ever since then I could say like that was the moment that was

448
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,040
like, Yep, you're not, you're not immortal.

449
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:03,280
For sure.

450
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,240
Things can happen.

451
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:05,440
I'm not young anymore.

452
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:11,600
Like every time I get ready to go to a Six Flags or I'm having a, it was when it's when

453
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:16,240
we joke about this, like you're packing your bag to go on a trip and then you're packing

454
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:19,280
like a bag full of medicine just in case.

455
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,200
That's how you know where you're officially adult.

456
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,480
Like, yeah, like just in case, just in case.

457
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,080
It's like a bag full of medicine.

458
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,520
It's like a bag full of medicine.

459
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,680
It's just like, and for me, I'm pasty white.

460
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,520
So it's like, Oh, I got to make sure I got my sunscreen, but it's got to be, and especially

461
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,080
if you're flying, it's like, but it's got to be TSA size.

462
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:36,320
Yep.

463
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,720
It's like, I got to make sure I got the allergy medicine.

464
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:42,560
I got to make sure I got the stomach medicine, the flu medicine in case anything.

465
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,640
Got to make sure I got the ad bill just in case we do something too crazy this week.

466
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,960
Like, and it's just like, because Lord knows I've been on this trip and it's like,

467
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,760
you don't want to try to find that Walgreens when you in a pinch.

468
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,080
It's like you want to have it all on hand.

469
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,400
So it's like you just go prepared.

470
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,240
Man, that's funny.

471
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:00,560
All right.

472
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,840
So you ready for your next question?

473
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,720
How do you feel about the music and pop culture trends of the early 2000s compared to what's

474
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:07,760
popular now?

475
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,000
Now, I know that I know probably what you're going to answer, but what are some pros and

476
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:12,480
cons?

477
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,360
Like, what do you, what do you like about the early 2000s?

478
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:22,160
You know, I would probably say we can even say 2000 to 2010 versus what's popular now

479
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,440
and things like that.

480
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,800
Are there anything that you actually like about nowadays or anything?

481
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,160
So kind of going to your question.

482
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:34,640
I, and again, we've said this before, I feel like there was a lot of distinguished types

483
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,280
of music.

484
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:40,400
So there was like kind of a mix of different music genres to like.

485
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:48,240
I feel nowadays like people either like three, they either like rap, they like pop or they

486
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:49,440
like country, right?

487
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:50,320
Like most people now.

488
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,640
And then some of it's just a blend.

489
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:57,360
Like back in the 2000s, like you would have very distinct types of music.

490
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:02,640
Like you would have, of course, emo rock, you would have heavy metal, you would have,

491
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,840
of course, pop, you would have like rap and even rap back then, like there was different

492
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:08,480
types of rap.

493
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,000
So there's like Texas rap, there's West Coast rap, there's Atlanta rap, there's just,

494
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,640
there's just all different kinds of rap, right?

495
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,240
And then you have country, right?

496
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:19,200
Whole bunch of different country subsects.

497
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:24,240
And so now I feel like it's all kind of more mainstream and blended together.

498
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:30,400
But what's interesting about back then is the fact that your music, the type of music

499
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,520
you listen to was kind of almost like you're kind of defined you, right?

500
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,400
Like it was your label.

501
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,440
It's like, oh, like, yeah, I listen to emo music.

502
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,160
So I'm going to address like an emo person or yeah, I listen to pop.

503
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:47,040
So I'm going to address like, I don't know, like there was more kind of, I felt like defined

504
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,720
groups or clicks.

505
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:54,880
Or whatever you say, but I will say the benefit of now is the streaming.

506
00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:00,720
The streaming is great because you can literally make a mix, like a list.

507
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,480
You can make a playlist for anything.

508
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,480
And back in the early 2000s, of course, you had to buy CDs, right?

509
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:13,440
You could only pick like, hey, I only want to listen to this band or whatever.

510
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,360
And then when MP3 and iPod came out, they made it a little bit more easier,

511
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,760
but you would still have to go buy the song and download it onto your device.

512
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:26,320
And now with the smartphones, like you can literally, it's easy for you to make a playlist.

513
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:33,120
I feel like you see now, like weddings nowadays, some of them have a DJ, but you don't really

514
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,600
need a DJ if you have Spotify on your phone.

515
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,680
Yeah, most people just make Spotify a playlist.

516
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:38,480
Yeah, like it was good to go.

517
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,120
Like, and that's why I feel like a lot of weddings now, like where you used to spend

518
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,760
money on a DJ, you don't really have to anymore.

519
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,760
So I think the music scene is definitely, I don't know, they're pros to it.

520
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,640
But again, it's kind of been all mainstream and blended.

521
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:57,760
I like that now people kind of listen to a mix and blend of both.

522
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:04,160
I find a lot of people now with their playlist, yeah, there are certain artists that they really dig.

523
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,440
I said dig, I was like, man, that's like 2000s word to use.

524
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,360
Listen, man, I really dig them dog, right?

525
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,200
Like for a vibe with.

526
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:18,400
But now it's kind of more like, hey, I like this song.

527
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,040
Like, I don't really care too much.

528
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,680
Yeah, this artist is okay, but I really like this song.

529
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,960
And so it's easy just to take one song because with the album, you could be like, yeah, I only

530
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,360
really like two songs off this album and then you're stuck with the whole album, right?

531
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:38,080
Well, and that's the thing that I didn't understand about back, not to interrupt you,

532
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:38,640
sorry.

533
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,640
That's the thing I didn't understand about that back then was you'd buy the whole CD

534
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:47,360
and typically unless it's a really good CD and now there are some of them out there like,

535
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,400
man, I basically like the whole thing besides two songs.

536
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,720
That's, but those are few and far between.

537
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:53,840
I think you're right.

538
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:58,400
Most of the time I bought the song, most of the time you bought the album for one song.

539
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,320
If you had two on there, that's great.

540
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,600
But it's like most of the time it's they have a hit.

541
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,200
The rest of the album is kind of garbage, but they got their hit on this album.

542
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:12,240
I will say with albums back then nowadays, it's like, hey, I'm just going to put out

543
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:15,600
a couple songs on this album, like whatever pops, whatever.

544
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,920
But there was a cohesion to the album.

545
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,280
Like you kind of know what I mean.

546
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,000
Yeah, there was a story.

547
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:20,720
Like there was a story.

548
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:21,280
A story to it.

549
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,280
It's like, hey, like we're going to, there was a pacing to the album, like, hey,

550
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:32,400
and if each track kind of followed in to like they were succinct with each other, like,

551
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:37,440
or you would have intro tracks where it's like, hey, I'm just going to do this intro,

552
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:37,920
whatever.

553
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,720
This isn't a song, but this is going to lead into the next song.

554
00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:43,920
Like albums were a piece of work as a whole.

555
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,760
And like intro songs, typically they were only like a minute, minute and a half.

556
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:52,560
And they kind of just kind of, you know, maybe they were a good beat, but it did like set it off.

557
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:52,960
I don't know.

558
00:43:52,960 --> 00:44:00,160
I think rap back then is I noticed a lot of times that for every like hype club party banger,

559
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:06,480
it was like the very next song was always like a slower like R&B, like with a female vocal in

560
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:11,120
there too, like I felt like it was, it was always funny because you would have like all these

561
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:16,080
gangster rappers and then like one of the next songs, it would be like kind of like an R&B hit.

562
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:16,800
You know what I mean?

563
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,240
Or like an R&B feel.

564
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:19,120
It was kind of funny.

565
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,040
But yeah, it was, it was different in that era.

566
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,720
You know, I'm not, I'm not a huge fan of a lot of genres.

567
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:27,360
Like I guess some of the pop stuff is, is okay.

568
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,240
But like, like you were saying, a lot of it's blended together.

569
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:34,560
And I mean, then again, Chris can tell you my taste in music is just different.

570
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,560
It's kind of why you think I'm me making music like the intro.

571
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,440
It's because it's because that's the kind of music I'm into.

572
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,640
So I want you to name and if you have any, that's cool.

573
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:50,880
If not, just say, I don't really, can you name like any maybe two or three artists that are

574
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:56,320
newer that you're like, you know what, I do try to think man, not off the top of my head.

575
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,360
Because like everything that I'd be thinking about, like here's what's hard.

576
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,200
Like everything that I'd be thinking about, I'm like, yeah, but can they really be classified

577
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,960
as newer? That's like 2018.

578
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,240
I would say 2018.

579
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:08,480
Yeah. No, I would say 2018 till now.

580
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,000
You would say 2018.

581
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:16,880
Like I like some of the E40 songs, like rap wise and then, or maybe like the one.

582
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,720
And then there are a few, there are a few like rap bangers that come out like non-mumble rap.

583
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,760
You know, there's still some bangers that come out, but just not again, like you said,

584
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,920
I don't know if I'm typically like, yeah, it's the artist, but like some of the songs in particular.

585
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:32,320
Yeah.

586
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,360
I'm gonna tell you a couple of mine and don't judge me.

587
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,160
Bruno Mars, I do like Bruno.

588
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,040
I don't have a problem with him. I think he's, I think it's fine.

589
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,440
The weekend, I do enjoy the weekend.

590
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,800
Okay, I will say that. The weekend's pretty good. I would say that.

591
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,520
And this last one, this is like, you're gonna judge me and I can already feel the judge.

592
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,040
It's all good. It's all good. What's going on?

593
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:53,760
Billie Eilish.

594
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,720
Billie Eilish? I mean, it is what it is, man.

595
00:45:56,720 --> 00:46:00,560
No, just say the judgment. I can hear it. I can hear it on the other side of the phone.

596
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:06,080
Hey, man, if you listen, if you said you were a Swifty, I feel a little different, but like Billie,

597
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,000
Billie Eilish is Billie Eilish is it is what it is.

598
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:15,840
You know, people have some like, some people have called her like the anti Taylor Swift.

599
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,520
Like basically it's Taylor Swift, but like in a different dimension. I don't know.

600
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:25,200
I don't judge. Bruno Mars is pretty good. I mean, Uptown Funk was a good song.

601
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,440
I know that was a ways ago, but still this next one I have.

602
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:34,000
What is a bucket list item that you're really wanting to check off soon?

603
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,920
I was going to talk to you about it. I, something that I've been really,

604
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,480
a lot of what my bucket list is turned into as an adult is a lot of aviation based things,

605
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:47,200
but that's not what I'm talking about. How open would you be to going to a rave with me,

606
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,760
but maybe not one here in the States? Because it seems like all the going back to the weird music

607
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,680
that I like seems like all the weird music I like tends to be in Europe and they don't,

608
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,840
the artists that I like don't tend to come to the States.

609
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:02,320
I don't know. I'll have to see what the, what the scene is. I know with Raze,

610
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:09,200
there is drugs that's like associated with that idea or I don't know what that scene.

611
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:09,840
Oh, for sure.

612
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:16,640
And so I'm kind of like, I don't know. I might go, I might drop you off. I might come in for like

613
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:21,920
five minutes, 10 minutes, say what's up and then be like, all right, bro. Like we'll see,

614
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,640
we'll see how I'm feeling. I'm not saying no. I feel like that is definitely more your scene

615
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,560
than my scene. No, it's definitely that. The only, the only reason I say that is,

616
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:35,840
or the only reason I ask is cause it's like you said, sometimes the scene can be a little,

617
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:42,400
and I'm also one of these, when I say weird people, yeah, there's a lot of extra chemical

618
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:48,880
activities going on, but I like the music sober. Like, I mean, I don't, I like it completely sober.

619
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:53,520
And you know, there are other people out there, but there's going to be stuff like that that goes on.

620
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:58,480
I think for me, it's not something that my wife would want to go to. She don't like crowds.

621
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,800
She don't like things like that. I think the other reason I'd be asking is like, I know it's

622
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,040
maybe not your bag, but like at the same time, it's like, as a whole, me, if I'm going to go to

623
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,960
another country, I'm not exactly going to want to go to another country in a crowd. You know what

624
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,560
I mean with, oh yeah, I'll definitely, if you're going to another country, I'm going to make sure

625
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,880
you're safe and you get, get there and you know, nothing's going to happen while you're there.

626
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,280
I would probably go just to make sure you're all that's pretty much it. As far as like, hey,

627
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:28,960
are you going to actively like participate? Probably you ain't going to be seeing me dressing up in

628
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:34,720
no cyber gods. Doing the little, doing the little, doing the little, doing the little, doing the little

629
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:39,520
little neon glow sticks. Yeah. You're not going to be doing neon glow sticks, doing like Trivium

630
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:46,960
show stuff. It's funny though. I mean, like it's funny because I've seen those videos and I'm like,

631
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:52,640
man, but that definitely is like a European German. Yeah. It's, it's the style and you know,

632
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:58,240
a lot of what I attribute that to is, you know, whenever I was a kid living in Germany,

633
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:05,440
I used to listen to the radio pretty much all night and early 2000s electronic music was very,

634
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:11,920
very, very, very popular. So, you know, it's not surprising that, you know, you listen to that kind

635
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:17,680
of stuff in your formable years. That's what you want to listen to later on. And electronic music,

636
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:23,600
a lot of, and a lot of the different genres that I like have come a long way and whatnot. But

637
00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:29,040
yeah, we can go into all that later. But yeah, that's, that's one of the things on my bucket list

638
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,000
that, you know, you kind of want to do those things when you're young. That's, I mean, going

639
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:40,480
overseas and, and, you know, going to a rave, that's not something that typically, like maybe you do,

640
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,760
but like typically you're not going to do that at 4550, right? So for sure. I think one is we've

641
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:51,600
talked about skydiving. So I would definitely like to do that soon. I also am really hoping,

642
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:57,840
crossing my fingers that I still get to meet Sting the wrestler this October. I think things are

643
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,960
still going to work out for us to do that. God willing. Fingers crossed. That's kind of a big

644
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:08,480
one. Cause like he's like, he's up there for me as probably like my second or third favorite wrestler.

645
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:13,440
And so to meet someone like that, like to other people like, Hey, it's not that big of a deal.

646
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:19,440
But that's, there were three wrestlers on my bucket list that I said I wanted to meet in 2024.

647
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:25,280
Cody Rhodes, Sting and CM Punk. And so if I can get two of the three for 2024, that'll be a good

648
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,840
year in my book. Heck, yeah. Do you hear a Goldberg son is playing football in Colorado?

649
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,480
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. The Sanders. Yeah. He looks pretty

650
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:38,960
cool. My next question here. How do you think that the Cold War or even the current Cold War

651
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:44,960
has affected the U S international relations with everyone else? Do you think that one,

652
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,680
let's break this question up a little bit. I think that's kind of a broad question that I just asked.

653
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,680
One, do you believe that the Cold War is still going on? Do you believe that it ever actually

654
00:50:53,680 --> 00:51:00,000
ended? There's always been those underlying like tensions with, with Russia and all that stuff.

655
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:06,560
And I think that has been maybe present, but I, I don't feel like it's still going on. I do feel

656
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:12,400
like, Hey, maybe there are some underlying tensions and sometimes with the way that we interact with

657
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:17,280
them, it's kind of like, Hey, like, we're going to do this together, but I still don't really trust

658
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:26,320
you type deal. I do think that there were a lot of scandals that have been covered up in American

659
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:32,560
history because of the Cold War. And I think that kind of forced us to quote unquote, win it.

660
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:39,520
Any means necessary. And again, I'm not, I don't want this to be a conspiracy podcast, but people

661
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:44,720
who argue that the moon landing was fake, obviously because of Cold War, do I believe that we landed

662
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:49,840
on the moon? Yes, I do, but I don't believe that we were the first ones to do it. I think the Russians

663
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:56,480
actually did. And so I think we, that propaganda, that studio filming and all that stuff was filmed

664
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:02,160
so that we could just say, Yeah, we got ahead, we beat Russia, pride and ego. So I think that

665
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:07,840
affects things. So I think there were still some kind of like underlying like tensions with Russia.

666
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:13,360
It's like, Hey, we're going to work with you, but we don't 100% fully trust. And I mean, I definitely

667
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:18,640
know that Ukraine is, and that whole situation is ramp things up rumor has it that technically,

668
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:23,760
we're in a war with them right now and cyber war or things like accurate. Would you say, you know,

669
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:29,840
I know we are funding Ukraine and things like that. Would you say that we're secretly fighting a war

670
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:37,200
with Russia right now? If we are, I don't know about it because I'm not that like involved with

671
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:44,160
the news and all that stuff. So I don't think I have a legitimate opinion to say whether we are.

672
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:50,960
Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, US foreign policy is always very interesting. I'm going to go back a

673
00:52:50,960 --> 00:53:01,120
little bit further to how do you feel about dang, I'm blanking on the policy that basically they

674
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:08,320
followed this up until World War One, World War Two, you know, we stay on our own continents here

675
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,880
or we stay on our own side of the planet, you know, I'm talking about like, what do you mean? Like,

676
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:18,720
Hey, we're not going to the idea that we stay on the Western Hemisphere. We're not going to get

677
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:22,320
involved with what goes on in the Eastern Hemisphere. And we broke that pretty much. Yeah, I mean,

678
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:27,920
we obviously broke that when we did World War Two. Do you think that that still has any merit?

679
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:33,040
Like as far as because there's a lot of people that say, you know what, we should stick to our own.

680
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:40,240
Or do you think that our economy is global? Everything is too global for us not to have vested

681
00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:47,840
interests and other other things. Think when it comes to injustices, like obviously with World

682
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:55,680
War Two, I don't think we should turn a blind eye, right? Like obviously, Hitler was killing a lot of

683
00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:01,520
Jews. And so I think in those moments, we should get involved. Now, if there's like oil disputes,

684
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:06,960
which is what a lot of what wars are fought over, and all that stuff, like, I'm like, man, like,

685
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,520
we got to take care of our own dude. Like now, if it's getting to a point where there's like,

686
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:17,760
again, another Hitler that's rising up and that they're just conquering and they're on up on a

687
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:23,600
path to destroy the world, then yes, we should get involved. I do think we should. I do think

688
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:31,280
if they're attacking our allies, we should help, right? Like I think we should. But as far as like,

689
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:37,680
hey, like, and I'm going to be very careful what I say, but it's like, hey, if another country

690
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:43,440
and another and this other country are kind of getting in a dispute, let them fight it out. Now,

691
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:49,280
if it becomes a thing of, hey, this other country is bullying them, like kind of how I guess people

692
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:54,000
would say Russia did with Ukraine. Yeah, I think we should probably get involved. They kind of be

693
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:59,840
like, Hey, let's let's stand up for the little guys. But I don't think we should get involved with

694
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,360
every single one. I'm pretty much done with that one. I can go on for a long time with that one,

695
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:08,160
but we're going to I'm going to refrain. What is the weirdest food combination that you enjoy?

696
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:15,360
Oh, man, weirdest food combination. You know, a lot of people say that this is weird. And I don't

697
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:23,040
know what you think. I like to do waffles like the, you know, egg waffles or the the toaster waffles,

698
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:28,960
and put a little butter on them, put like some ham and cheese on there. And I think that's pretty

699
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,360
good. But yeah, that's that's what I'm saying. Like so many people are like, Oh, that's gross. I'm

700
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:38,000
like, What are you talking about? It's pretty much like a piece of bread with some butter on there.

701
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:43,200
Like you ain't got to just put syrup on there. Like you could put butter with some cheese,

702
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,680
like melt some cheese and some ham on there. It's pretty good. And again, this could be just me

703
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:54,560
speculating or pontificating, but I feel like that's a that's 14 year old Micah coming out.

704
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:59,440
It's like, well, all I got, all I got in the kitchen is some waffles and some ham and cheese.

705
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:04,160
I'm gonna throw that all there, bro. You can make yourself a sandwich. I'll buy you some bread. It's

706
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:11,760
okay. You ain't got to put the wall man is I'm telling you like that's that's that's my weird one.

707
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:18,080
And then of course, a lot of people, you know, it depends on what camp you're in. I like deep grits,

708
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,840
but like not just grits, I'll do the same thing. Like I'll put butter with some,

709
00:56:22,720 --> 00:56:27,280
with some like ham and cheese, like cheese ain't the weird part, but like me dicing up some ham.

710
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:33,120
Some people like that's weird. So as weird, I personally wouldn't do it. But I think I'm like,

711
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:37,600
okay, I can see like maybe where you would enjoy that. I can see that. It's like, it's actually

712
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:42,320
pretty good. Like if you put something like some sort of savory meat in there, so it's pretty,

713
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:49,120
it's pretty good. I like that kind of stuff. But like to me, that's some like real south food.

714
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:54,320
Like, I mean, some grits with some ham in it, like Jesus, that's that's south south stuff. But

715
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:59,520
yeah, how about yourself? What's what's some weird interesting food combination? You like

716
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:04,000
some like fried peanut butter sandwich or something? No, if I have a weird food combination,

717
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:12,080
that like I'm, I'm that weird person that I don't like milk in my cereal. So that's maybe weird,

718
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:17,280
but dude, I'm not like, but you just don't like it because it's a texture thing, right? Because

719
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:23,600
it gets too soggy. I don't, yeah, I don't like that. I don't know, man. Like I don't think there is a

720
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:31,680
weird food combination that I have. I just, I don't know. I'll have to think about that one. If it

721
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:36,960
comes up, I'll, I'll mention it. Let's substitute it. Is there anybody in your immediate life right

722
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:42,160
now that you're like, you know what, that person, I've, you know, I've seen the meat this and this

723
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:48,320
and it's kind of weird. Oh my, my wife and I can't remember what it is, but she, she does have a weird,

724
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:54,000
she does have a weird combination thing of something she eats and I can't remember off the top what it

725
00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:00,080
is, but it's like something that's kind of like they wouldn't go together. It's like something sweet

726
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:06,880
and something kind of like tuna. I don't know what you're remembering like two in the morning.

727
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:11,600
Yeah, I remember like three in the morning, but yeah, off the top of my head, I can't think she

728
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:16,800
does have some, but I can't remember what they are. Man, I had this cousin, man, and she put

729
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:22,400
ketchup on like almost everything. And when I say everything, I'm talking like everything, like

730
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:31,520
cheesecake ketchup. Yeah, I'm serious. Like, wow. Anyways, we can move on before we gross people

731
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:36,800
out too much. We've kind of talked about this, but we'll talk, we'll ask just so the listeners

732
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:43,120
can get it. What were some memorable toys or video games that you played growing up? Memorable

733
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:49,600
toys. I don't really remember too much. Well, you really didn't have too many toys per se.

734
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:55,840
No, I didn't. Yours was more, I remember like your parents were more like, I remember they got you

735
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:02,480
like not an acoustic guitar, they got you a bass at one point. But I thought they gave you like a

736
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:08,480
beginner guitar. And then like, it's like, if you wanted, if you wanted to, I know you had like a

737
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:13,440
basketball, a football, like you had stuff like that. You know what I mean? Like it was. Yeah, we

738
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:20,240
had basketball, football, we had an air hockey table. There were more like activities than like

739
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:27,760
just toys. I didn't have a lot of toys. Video games, I remember the first ever game system we got

740
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:36,320
was a Nintendo GameCube and we got Mario Party 7 on it. And I remember we got that for Christmas

741
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:42,960
and I really enjoyed playing that. And then we got Madden 2006. That was a big one. Micah got

742
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:49,040
me Need for Speed Hot Pursuit. Pursuit 2. 2. That was a big one that I played for a while. Again,

743
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:56,400
like I had a game system, but I didn't have a lot of video games. The Incredibles, we talked about

744
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:02,720
that. So early on when we got a GameCube, my parents didn't know to get a memory card. And so

745
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:09,680
we, my mom would have these weekly Bible studies with these ladies and we would have to go with her

746
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,760
through the summer. And so the lady was like, Hey, we're going to put you in this room. Like you

747
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:18,720
could bring your GameCube and hook it up to the TV. And so my brother and I would always see how

748
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:25,840
far we could get in the Incredibles game because when we had to turn it off, like we, like all the

749
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:31,840
stuff was unsafe. So every time we played that game, it would be unsafe progress. I do remember

750
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:41,600
we eventually got a, like we eventually got a memory card. And then we got a Wii and we got

751
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:47,360
Wii Sports. And then I don't really remember any other game except for Wii Sports and Wii Sports

752
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:54,320
Resort that we played on there because you could play the GameCube games on there. And we didn't

753
01:00:54,320 --> 01:01:00,880
have a PlayStation or an Xbox or anything. So any video games I played other than that,

754
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:07,600
we're at Micah's house. So those were kind of the memorable video games for sure. Madden, Mario

755
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:13,040
Party 7, Wii Sports and Hot Need for Speed Hot Pursuit too. It had to be a different friend,

756
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:18,560
man. You did not have a 007 game. Did you? Like a James Bond game? No, I did not have that. It

757
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,960
must have been. I had another friend that had a GameCube and I'm pretty sure he had the 007

758
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:29,920
game. But like, I see so many reels and videos like nostalgia ones where they'll, where it's

759
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:36,560
like the intro music for the 007 game from the GameCube. Oh yeah. Well, that one was on N64.

760
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:41,440
That's what that one was. Oh, was it? Yeah. The 007. That one was like, that's an iconic game.

761
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:47,040
It's kind of hard to play, but it's fun. I think there was another one that came out like a later

762
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:51,680
one on the GameCube because I know it was definitely GameCube, but it was like some of them had the

763
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:58,880
same music or some of them had the same. That game was kind of the pioneer of like, you call a duty

764
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:04,480
and like Halo to where you're like fighting your friends and stuff and you can fight your friends.

765
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:09,360
And it was that first person shooter kind of thing. So that one was kind of a pioneer, but yeah.

766
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:13,840
It was fun. I remember playing that game at my friend's house. I used to love playing that game.

767
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:18,720
It was, I just remember the storyline. The main bad guy's name was Drake.

768
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:25,520
That was the main bad guy's name. One that's like iconic for me playing at your house though was Halo

769
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:32,320
and I'm terrible at those. Halo. Yeah. I had pretty much most of the Halo games over the years. I had

770
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:40,400
the first one, the second one. I had three. I had Reach. I had ODST at one point. Like, I think I

771
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:46,480
played and I beat most all of them. Like, I really like Halo. In fact, that's a game I should get

772
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:51,760
back into. Like, I should get the collection and play it again because that was a really good game.

773
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:57,200
Like, the storyline is really good too. I really like Halo. I was going to ask you. I was like,

774
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do you like, you answer the question? I think probably mine. Hitman 2 was really, was a fun one.

775
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:13,200
Yeah, I was into that one pretty good. And then, one of my other ones. So like, I have like,

776
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:18,080
eras, right? Because, so when we first moved to Georgia, like when I first met you, if you remember,

777
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:26,000
I had a PlayStation 1, like just a regular PlayStation 1. And I remember having that demo game,

778
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:33,600
like the demo disc that had like, like 12 different games on there. I remember Spyro was one of them.

779
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:39,520
I remember Ratchet and Clank was another one. And you know, you'd basically be like the first

780
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:48,000
level or whatever, right? I remember there was Tarzan. There was, and then, I know you were

781
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:54,160
remember this one because it was the WWF game from, it was like WWF 2000 because it was Sting

782
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:58,960
vs. Goldberg. And that was like the only match that you could do. But I remember like being able

783
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to hit people with chairs and stuff. And so like, I remember playing that a good bit. And then,

784
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I think probably the one that it was like, yeah, if I could get a game again and play this again,

785
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:17,440
like I definitely would. And that was Need for Speed Underground 2. Like that one, that was like,

786
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:23,520
one of my favorite games. Like the soundtrack was dope. Like I remember there was like,

787
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:28,240
some really good songs on there. Yeah, it was, it was a really good game. Do you ever remember

788
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:33,840
playing Need for Speed Underground? I don't really remember. I remember playing Halo. I remember playing

789
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:39,600
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas and then Red Dead because that was like a big- And see, and see the

790
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thing was Red Dead. Like the only reason I had that is because my parental unit was like, yeah,

791
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like I want to play that pretty much because he wanted to get it. And then San Andreas, if you

792
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:56,160
remember, I wasn't supposed to have Grand Theft Auto at all. And the only reason I got it was because

793
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I was doing a job at the time and like my boss had given me a gift card to Xbox. Like it was like a

794
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:11,280
$50 gift card or whatever. And I was like, oh, I could buy San Andreas and download it and they

795
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:16,480
won't know. And that's exactly what happened. That's exactly what happened. Yeah, that was,

796
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that was pretty good. But like, yeah, I had different eras and I've had quite a few video

797
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:25,680
game systems over the years actually thinking about it. This one kind of going back to like the

798
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Cold War question. If you could instantly learn the truth about one mystery or one conspiracy,

799
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what would it be? First one that comes to my head is 9-11. Was it actually or was it all

800
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a planned coordinated event? Because I've heard so many crazy outlandish stuff. Like there are so

801
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:48,800
many crazy outlandish 9-11 conspiracies out there with some of them that have like decent

802
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:54,640
tangible evidence. And then some of them that are like, man, that's just crazy. But I'm just curious,

803
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it's like, because listen, man, the Bush administration was looking to get into Iraq. And they knew

804
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that something like that. I guess my thing is I knew, I know that they had some level of knowing

805
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that it was going to happen. But just like World War II and Pearl Harbor, like, bro, they knew

806
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:14,640
Pearl Harbor was going to happen. They just wanted it to happen so that they had an excuse to go in

807
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like the people, you know, because it pisses people off when people die. So it's like, you know,

808
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was that what basically happened? Did they just like let it happen? Or was it a full on plan

809
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:32,240
coordinated event? Like, we're going to back channel and pay this to happen. And like, you never

810
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:36,400
know, man, there's all sorts of stuff out there. Like, so that's one that I would like to know

811
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:42,640
about yourself. This one is a little controversial. Not if there's a, not if there's a treasure map on

812
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:48,720
the back of the Declaration of Independence, like a national treasure, but with the like Freemasonry.

813
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:53,600
And of course, you know that like, some of the founding fathers were Freemasons. But I want to

814
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:59,600
know like, how deep that goes. And like, I also want to know the secrets of it because

815
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:06,240
it fascinates me because I've heard a lot of different things about it. And, you know, some

816
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,840
people were like, Oh, it's just a charitable organization. But I know that there's like some

817
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:15,600
deep rooted things. And maybe like, maybe it wouldn't be good for me to know, because if there's a

818
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:21,280
lot of messed up stuff, but I really want to know like, why is it so secretive? How deep does it go?

819
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:26,800
Like, and again, we talked about my fascination of cults. It's not because I want to join a cult

820
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:33,200
or start a cult. I just want to know like, why it's so messed up, why it's so secretive. I guess

821
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I just want the truth to come out. Like, that's all I bring. My question with the whole Freemason

822
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:45,600
thing is, does it link over to the Bohemian Grove stuff? Or is that two separate things? Like,

823
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:51,920
maybe Freemason was the deal for the longest time, and there still is influence in it. But then you

824
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:59,120
have like, Bohemian Grove on the side, you know, as, because there are definitely governing bodies

825
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:03,760
that we don't know about that are pulling strings and things. And it would not surprise me if the

826
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Masons were one, right? Because of how much, I mean, strength in numbers, they have quite a few

827
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:14,320
numbers too. Like, that's, that's the big thing. So I don't know, I'd be interested in that too.

828
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Be very interesting. This one is my last question here. What do you think is something that our

829
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:26,400
country needs to improve upon right now? Like, as far as, and it could be anything, like, do you

830
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:31,840
think there's something, and you don't necessarily have to have a plan for it. But what do you think

831
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:36,160
is probably one of our biggest problems that it's like, oh, man, we really need to focus on getting

832
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:43,920
this fixed right now. I think just unity, I really do think just being unified as a nation. You see

833
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:50,640
so much division and I, and I feel like the politicians have done that on purpose to create

834
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:55,920
division. But really, I just want to see unity between people. I want to see people be able to

835
01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:03,360
have conversations if they have differing beliefs and to actually have a civil conversation and to

836
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:07,600
not try to cancel the other person, not try to yell or berate the other person. But I just want to

837
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:15,440
see people have unity and to love each other. But I know that that's not going to happen. But

838
01:09:15,440 --> 01:09:19,920
that's probably my answer to your question. Mine is a little bit more, I guess, of course,

839
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:26,080
everything that I always do is like, yeah, that's pretty dang specific. But man, our infrastructure

840
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:30,800
is pretty pretty garbage compared to a lot of other countries. You know, there are a lot of

841
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:36,080
things that we can say, man, we have cutting edge of this or that in our country. And we can say

842
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:41,760
that for a few things. But our infrastructure is not very good. And I'm not just talking about roads

843
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:50,640
and bridges. I mean, you know, most city water systems are just some of them, you know, most of

844
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:55,760
them still have lead pipes, but a lot of what happened going back to the New Deal with FDR,

845
01:09:55,760 --> 01:10:00,560
most of these towns and things, especially small towns and smaller areas, they didn't have running

846
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:04,880
water and things. And part of the New Deal was bringing running water and things. A lot of that

847
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:09,760
infrastructure hasn't been replaced since then. So we're talking about things from the 30s, 40s.

848
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:16,640
And some of these are lead pipes, some of these are asbestos based pipes, like things that are not

849
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:23,280
great for you, right? And getting into the drinking water, that sort of thing. And they're, I mean,

850
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,960
that's part of the problem with Flint, Michigan, there's other problems with that. But like,

851
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:31,520
you see it all over the place, there's places in Missouri that's like under permanent

852
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:38,880
waterbans, like, you know, AKA their water is contaminated and things like that. And so there's

853
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:44,480
a lot of infrastructure pieces. And then not just that, I was talking to some of a friend of mine

854
01:10:44,480 --> 01:10:53,200
that is from out of country. And a lot of our infrastructure as far as public transport, things

855
01:10:53,200 --> 01:11:00,000
like that public transportation is just so par. His parents think it's wild that he got a car.

856
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:04,640
Because over and I mean, this is different in Europe, but they live in a very large city in

857
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:09,840
Europe. But they don't have a car, they have or they do have a car, but it's for long distance

858
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:15,920
travel. Everything else is bike or walk because there's sidewalks everywhere. There is you go

859
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:20,000
and take a bus, right? You go and take a bus and there's plenty of bus routes, all this,

860
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:25,520
you don't need a car. Why do you need a car? And so here it's totally opposite. It's,

861
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:30,480
there's not a lot of sidewalks. There's not a lot of, if you want to go walk, sometimes it's

862
01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:35,600
really sketchy, right? Like it's not something that you want to necessarily do. And so I think one

863
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:41,120
of our biggest problems that we have is we don't have accessibility like that. I think there's a

864
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:48,080
lot of our infrastructure all the way around that needs to be improved upon. We basically built and

865
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:53,840
didn't think about certain things. I feel like is what happened. And so, you know, I think that's

866
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:58,240
one of the biggest changes we can make now, but it costs a lot of money. Well, if you live in Texas,

867
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:02,960
you're going to need a car because it takes you boy, it takes you forever to get anywhere. Yeah,

868
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:08,160
for real. I love God's country, Texas, but it takes you forever to get a car. Yeah, for sure.

869
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:14,800
A four hour drive is dropping the hat. Last question. All right. If you wake up tomorrow and you win

870
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:23,440
a million dollars and if by midnight, you don't spend it, you lose it. What are you spending the

871
01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:29,840
million dollars on? You have to spend all going to buy a house to buy a plane of some sort and see

872
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:37,520
what's left because, you know, buying the plane is probably going to be quite expensive, depending

873
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:44,960
on what I get. Could get multiples, but probably spend the rest that on there, you know, and

874
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:49,280
probably, you know, go ahead and set myself up for buying something to house the plane or something

875
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:53,280
like that. I can probably spend a million in one day doing that because, you know, that's

876
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:59,280
expensive crap. How about you? Maybe a new car if I could squeeze that in there. Oh yeah, definitely

877
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:07,600
gonna pay some bills, buy a house, definitely booking a nice, very nice vacation as we talked

878
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:13,200
about before. Yeah, for sure. And I think, I don't know, I'm kind of with you. I'm like, man, I could

879
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:18,160
probably spend a million dollars pretty quickly, buy a couple of houses because once you spend it,

880
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:23,840
buy it. Well, I don't know. Buy you a condo in Florida while you're at it. Yeah, but I'm like,

881
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:28,240
dog, like, are you going to have to go through all the paperwork? Are you going to be able to buy

882
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:34,560
a house like in a day? Like, I don't know. Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, I assume that you can

883
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:39,920
if it's cash, right? Because, I mean, a lot of the paperwork is, if you're going through a mortgage

884
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:45,840
lender, so if you're not going through a lender and you show up with a suitcase full of cash,

885
01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:50,320
I mean, I assume that it's just signed the title. I guess it all comes down to the title paperwork

886
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:56,560
and if they can get the deed over to you and all that crap, but I don't know. It'd be interesting.

887
01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:02,000
That's all schematics, though. I wish I'd tell you the first thing that I'd be doing, though,

888
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:06,640
if I got a million dollars tomorrow, regardless, I'd be getting a financial advisor. That's what

889
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:12,800
I'd be doing. A financial advisor? You're going to get a, you have to spend it all in a day. What

890
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:16,720
I'm saying is if I didn't have to spend it all in a day, like if I just got a million tomorrow,

891
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,440
didn't have to spend it, like that's the first thing I'd be doing is like, hey,

892
01:14:20,480 --> 01:14:24,960
make sure that, make sure I don't spend it all one day and do some stupid crap with it. Make sure

893
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,800
I'm actually, because I'd want to invest some of it, you know what I mean? Or save some of it,

894
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:34,240
invest some of it. Oh, you best believe we're going to buy them arcade games and we're going to

895
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:39,440
rent out the whole FOGO to Chow. That's what we're going to do. The whole Frostbank arena. Yeah,

896
01:14:39,440 --> 01:14:43,520
the whole Frostbank arena. That's what I'm going to do. So I could play basketball. There you go.

897
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:48,560
Play basketball. It's like, bring the Spurs out. Where's Wimbam Yama at? All right, man. Well, I

898
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:54,480
tell you what, that's a heck of an episode. And I'm telling you, we could just keep on talking

899
01:14:54,480 --> 01:15:00,320
and talking. I love some of these questions because it really makes you think, I got, and you know,

900
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:04,880
I actually find out a lot of stuff about you that I didn't know before from these questions.

901
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:09,920
Like there are some things that I'm like, yeah, I know, but like what? Like you just said, if you

902
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,520
were going to spend a million in one day, like I have some idea of what you were going to do, but

903
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:18,640
nothing, nothing specific, like talking about, you know, like Mario Party and things like that,

904
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:24,720
man, I didn't know that was something. I got to know that was one of the games, but at the same time,

905
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:30,160
I don't think I ever played it with you, right? So it being nostalgic. And then things for you to me,

906
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:34,160
like you didn't know about the rabbit ears with the, with the bubble TV. And I thought you knew

907
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:38,800
about that too. So it's like finding some things out through these probing questions, which are

908
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:44,560
pretty good. BMN at the trash can network. Come find us over at the trash can network over on YouTube,

909
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:51,120
Instagram, and then over at the aviator society on Instagram as well for all your aviation fun,

910
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:56,720
jazz, that sort of thing. You know, Chris, I'm going to annoy the bejesus out of you. But here we go.

911
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:03,920
Did you know that dolphins are also called porpoises? I actually did know that. That's good.

912
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:08,480
That's good. You could also find that on the trash can network because there is nature videos.

913
01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:14,880
There are nature videos on there. You like nature. There's stuff about dolphins, sloths,

914
01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:23,200
sharks, all sorts of crap. You can go watch all that fun jazz and again over at trash can network

915
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:28,160
and then over on Facebook. Tell us what you think and hope you enjoyed it. But yeah,

916
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:32,880
shout out all of our continents all around the world. Man, we've been having listeners from

917
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:38,320
all over the place. Yes, we have. It's been great and we've enjoyed every minute of it. So thank

918
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:44,160
you for listening to us. We will see you next time. It's time for the Starship to take us on it.

919
01:16:44,160 --> 01:17:10,160
I'm Chris and I'm Michael and this is the Fox Park case.

920
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:24,160
And then here beside you won't so much to give you this love in my heart that I'm feeling for you.

921
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:34,160
Let them see we're crazy. I don't care about that. Put your hands in my hand, baby. Don't ever look back.

922
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:44,160
Let the world around us just fall apart. Maybe we can make it if we're hard to hide.

923
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:54,160
And we can build this thing together. Standing strong forever. Nothing's gonna stop us now.

924
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If this world runs out of numbers, we'll...