So Micah, I need you to explain something to me. Maybe you know about this trend. Maybe I'm the only one who doesn't know about it.
But can you explain something to me? Okay, what's up?
Why is it that the younger generations have like spam accounts? Like for Instagram, like the younger generations, they have like two, three, sometimes four different Instagram or Facebook accounts.
Like what is that all about?
From what I understand, man, is to be able to, you have a spam or a trash account so that you can freaking talk mess to people or leave comments on people.
And it's not on your main page, right? So like your main page has your mom, you know, like some other, some other people maybe you don't want to see.
And I've even seen it to where it's like, you know, some, some ladies maybe want to put something a little bit more risque out there.
So they'll make a separate account of some sort so that, you know, they kind of only let certain people see, you know, basically you have to request to follow them and they can approve or deny you.
And, you know, that's what I think. I don't know. I think that's what it is mainly. But I think a lot of it is so that they can talk mess.
And that's what, you know, the basketball player Kevin Durant, apparently that's what he did. He had a few burner accounts just so he could talk mess to his haters without it being his main account.
But a lot of these I'm seeing that they're still the same picture and the still like the same name and everything.
And it says like spam account like under the bio, but like, but so they'll talk crap to other people being that account like as themselves.
They just don't want their mom or someone they care about to see. Is that what it is?
Pretty much. And like, and what they'll do is so you there, you know, there's so many scams going around where it's like people get their account hacked or whatever, right?
And so even if you say your mom or your grandma sees like what's going on or somehow finds out, be like, oh, well, that's a spam account.
They must have hacked me or something like that. And then you can just make up some excuse and get off the hook, right?
So like, you put spam account all over the place. So even if the other people do find it, because that is the dumb part.
I'm not going to say who, but there was some family members in my family who did that, right?
And pretty much like, yeah, they use the same pictures and everything.
So you know that it's different, but they also didn't change their privacy settings up enough to where you couldn't see some of their pictures.
And you could definitely tell exactly what was going on with that situation.
And they popped up in the you should be friends list because, you know, that's how the algorithm works.
They'll find people you, you know, and so it's it's interesting.
But for the most part, bro, I bet you I bet you some of your family members have burner accounts, talk mess certain people talk mess of, you know, people who are talking about Steph Curry and stuff.
You know me? Oh yeah. Well, thank you for explaining that. I'm Chris and I'm Micah and this is the Donut Box podcast.
Well, I got to shout out my boy Micah that intro music that you just heard was an arrangement put together by my boy Micah.
So want to shout out, bro? Like you're you're making a Donut Box original music right now.
You put the song out there. I didn't realize you put the song out there. But hey, that's that's cool.
Yeah, I actually put it in the last episode, but I didn't shout you out in the last episode.
So my bad. I need to shout out.
Yeah, that's all good, man. You know, it's interesting. I put that together on a free piece of software.
It took a little bit of time, but like I think it turned out pretty darn decent.
I think it turned out pretty darn decent. We got some other things in the works and, you know, amateur beatmaker over here.
I'm making DJ Flame come out in real life. You know what I mean?
Yeah, I love it. Well, happy Monday. Happy Labor Day weekend to all those.
I don't know if any other countries celebrate Labor Day, but we do here in America.
And I'm going to ask you, do you remember the days when you would work at a retail job or like a fast food job in Labor Day and them holidays?
Didn't mean nothing. It didn't mean nothing. Or if you worked in a retail, sometimes they'd be having sales like Labor Day sales.
So like it's even busier because everybody's off and they want to come and hit you up on the sale.
So it's like, I do remember those days. I even remember, you know, Thanksgiving Christmas having to work Thanksgiving Christmas too.
I don't know, man. I like having those days off. That's for sure.
Oh, yeah. I'm very thankful that I work in a job now to where I can have those days off and have extended time off other than just Christmas Day
and maybe Thanksgiving Day. And so I'm very thankful for that.
But welcome to the Dona Box Podcast. This is our free flow episode. And Micah, this is episode 41, but this is also episode 145 that we have been doing.
Total. That's crazy. 145. So think about this. 145 consecutive weeks we've been going at this thing. That's pretty crazy, man.
We're coming up on season four or two. We're coming up on, I mean, 100. It's wild. It's wild. I can't believe it.
So we are going to ask each other some questions. I love our free flow episodes because we kind of do jumping off points and then we just never know where it's going to take us.
But do you want to start with the first question or do you want me to start with the first question?
Man, do you have a burning question? I mean, all of my questions are good, but like, so if you got a burning one, go for it. Go for it.
So kind of going back to what we were talking about in the intro about the younger generations having these burner accounts, these spam accounts,
how do you think you as a kid would survive in this generation? Like if you were to be a kid now and or do you say, you know what, I'm glad that I grew up in the times that I grew up in.
I don't think I'd survive. Like what would your answer be to that question?
It's kind of a blend. In first and foremost, I'm going to say this about the intro there, pre-podcast banter, if you will.
I was actually surprised you had had that question. You know, I thought you were up on what the kids are into and what they do in rent.
I mean, I know some of it's pretty confusing, but but like I thought you knew that.
So really and truly like I work with elementary kids and I lead a I guess they don't really have burner account.
Like they're not the they're not to the point of having burner accounts. I get you.
Yeah, I lead a sixth grade boys small group at church, but other than that, like my kids don't have social they have phones,
but most of them don't have social media. So I didn't know like that was a thing.
Maybe that's why I'm worried about volunteering at church is because, you know, you volunteering and doing the sixth grade boys, man,
for how much crap we gave our youth leaders and stuff, I know what goes around comes around and, you know,
I'm glad you're having to take the heat, not me. So hopefully you take the heat from me.
Anyways, I'm joking, joking, but back to what you were saying. I think it's a mix, man. It's really there are some aspects that I liked back then.
Of course, I think one of the biggest things and I'm going to sound like an old man, but it was definitely a simpler time back then.
I mean, the thing was for a while there, you know, you didn't have internet. You don't have cell phones readily available.
There were different things to where there was a lot of things that weren't playing and taking up your mind's energy, right?
That you weren't having to that you didn't have on you all the time.
And I think that's what is different about this generation. Like part of childhood, mostly teenage years, we had social media and things like that,
but it definitely wasn't to the point where it was today. Even that was way simplified, right? The versions of what it was today.
And I think for me, I do miss that sort of thing. I miss, you know, the days of not having a cell phone attached to your hip all the time.
Like there are good qualities to that. There are good things and I think we should get more to that.
Being a kid now, man, there's some crazy stuff, right? I think about you and I and first of all, I don't think our parents would have allowed us to have video game systems
in the Xbox Live or PlayStation Live, you know, like this or anything like this.
But that is more accessible now than ever, right? Kids play games with their friends online way more than and that's something I would have loved as a kid.
Those summer days where it was like you and I would call each other up and shoot the crap because there was nothing else going on.
We could have been on a game, right? We could have listened, man. We could have been on Grand Theft Auto being stupid.
You know, again, my parents wouldn't let me have Grand Theft Auto.
Again, our parents probably wouldn't have let us do the online bit either. Probably wouldn't have paid that and did all that anyways.
But what I'm saying is, you know, saying that maybe you would have something like that. Absolutely.
I think that would be pretty fun. Not just that cell phones with unlimited texting, things like that.
Oh, yeah, like that would have been those were the things that were kind of important to me at the time.
And then not just that, but I know this sounds kind of dumb, but like TV rights and things like that were a lot different.
You have way more stuff on demand. Like if I if I could go back and tell my eight, nine, 10 year old self, like, hey, you know, there when you when you get to be an adult,
pretty much you can get anything on demand, including live TV. It's not just like TVO because you used to have like TVO or you can pause TV and record it and stuff like that.
No, that's pretty much you can get that pretty much on the fly for most places now.
Most places have streamlined it because back then it was very expensive. If you wanted to order like a movie or something.
Oh, very much. You almost have to pay like 20 bucks or I don't know how much the movie cost, but it was expensive to get things on demand.
It was expensive. It was almost like, you know, you might as well go out and go buy the movie.
It was just about that expensive, I would imagine. So it's, you know, on demand was not a heard of thing.
And so just thinking about how because, you know, football seasons here, especially college football, and what I was thinking about is whenever I was a kid,
you know, that's what I like to watch during that time of year. But because of TV rights and stuff, like I could barely watch Texas Tech Game.
That's why because it's out of market. Now you can watch all these out of market games. No big deal, right? With one of these streaming services.
Again, granted, what my parents have paid for all that and, you know, had all that to be readily available, probably not.
So it's still probably not a thing. But I think there are some advantages, you know, either or. I think there are, you know, there are some things I would like to go back and have.
Shoot, I know it's all about inflation and whatnot, but shoot, give me give me the prices of when I was a kid.
Like I remember the prices of everything. It's just like, man, if we had them prices now, be living like a king.
Kind of going back to the Xbox Live thing, I remember back then Xbox Live was like, it was a big deal and it was also pretty expensive.
So if you had Xbox Live, it was kind of like, yeah, it was. It was a big deal.
Nowadays, it's just it was a rich kid thing. It was a rich kid thing.
If you were a kid and had that, that was a very rich kid thing to have. It wasn't everybody that had that.
And also going back to the social media thing, social media was pretty brand new.
It was kind of developing and all this stuff. And so for me, it wasn't that big of a deal when I was probably, I'd say probably up until middle school.
Now, I know in high school, then it became a little bit more advanced and I could really tell like that's when it really started to affect me a little bit more of having social media and seeing people like posting all their stuff and their vacations and all that stuff.
And so I think that social media now with our kids consuming all the content, I think it's really not healthy for because kids nowadays, like if you look at these studies,
they struggle with anxiety and fear and depression way more than we ever did. And I think it's because of all the content that they're consuming.
I don't there are other factors to that, but I think that level of anxiety is heightened we've seen in the in the next two generations.
And I'm going to I'm going to even expand upon that. We'll rabbit hole on this a little bit too.
I think a lot of it has to do with kind of going back to the original what I was saying about the simplicity of those times.
Why do people say, Oh, it was simpler times. It's because we come in contact with so many layers in our life.
If that makes sense. Do the whole Shrek line, you know, Oh, gooders have layers. I'm joking. No, we come with layers.
You know, how many times have you caught yourself? You'd be sitting on the couch. You're watching TV, right?
You're screwing around on your phone. You're doing something like that. Imagine so you I've even seen it.
I'll look at my wife sometimes and we'll be watching TV should be texting with somebody while she's got a video plan on her phone.
Think about how much stimulation all of that is all at one time and how much is your mind is having to intake and process and go through all at one time.
That's a lot like that is a ton that is way more than we've ever had to do as human beings.
Like, you know, and so now we have these generations that are being born into this world where that is the expectation because you look at what you have to do at work.
You have to do a lot of multitasking. You have to basic. I mean, most jobs, you have to know how to operate a computer, right?
Most people know how to operate their phones. Most jobs either you have to know how to operate your phone or operate the computer, right?
And a lot of the times it's you're doing your job while doing something on the computer or you're doing your job while on the phone.
So there's all this stuff bombarding you all the stinking time. Not just that, but you know, I've seen other people do this too.
And it's it's okay. But have you seen these apps that you can get on your phone and they'll pay you per year?
But basically, their advertisements like it'll pump you advertising on your on your lock screen whenever you lock your home, your phone's lock screen.
And so think about this night, day, whatever is advertising, advertising, advertising, advertising, advertising.
And so, you know, it might seem innocent, but I don't think people realize how taxing it is on people on your mind.
Like, I think it just blends in after a while, but it's very taxing on people. And we're talking about kids too, where they're being subjected to that automatically.
I think it's very, you know, I'm concerned about what's going to happen. I think it will have negative effects to the younger generations for sure.
It will have a negative effect. But on the flip side of that, there is a positive because I feel like this generation, generation alpha and Gen Z,
they're a lot more creative and they are able to accomplish a lot more. And but what's also to going back to your conversation about the content and anxiety and all that stuff,
because they're exposed to content a lot earlier, now a third grader, you kind of have to treat them like a fifth grader in today's society.
And a fifth grader, you kind of got to treat them like a seventh or an eighth grader because of the amount of content.
Now, I know different people have different parenting styles. So they may monitor like what they expose their kids to.
But even if you try to kind of shield your kids from that and they go to public school, like their friends have phones.
So they're always showing each other different stuff on their phones.
And so it's really truly because of that development, because they're having to minds have to catch up.
I feel like a first grader again, you have to treat kind of almost like a third grader in some aspects.
Absolutely. And it's just because of how much I mean, with something like the Internet comes, there's a lot of knowledge in that.
Now, knowledge is always has, you know, a lot of times has a good connotation.
But at the same time, it could be good knowledge, it could be bad knowledge. There's all sorts of stuff that's out there.
And, you know, especially when you're talking about, and I know we're breaking off into even more.
But a lot of these kids, you know, a lot of the disorders are up. Attention deficit disorder, ADHD, all of those things are up.
And why is that? I think a lot of it is because TikTok is massive, right?
YouTube shorts are now a really big thing. And I know because I'm putting it on the platform, the 60 seconds or less,
there is such a crowd for that. And a lot of it is younger people, like the demographic is, you know, 20s and younger, a lot of the time.
And so think about how much content you can intake from all these different varying sources and about all these different topics at 60 seconds at a time, right?
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, just left and right. And, you know, I don't know if you've heard the term, but there's what's called doom scrolling.
Have you heard about that? People literally, it's almost, I wouldn't say it's like an addiction, but people get sucked into it to where they just scroll for hours.
And so it's the 60 second videos or these short videos that are just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You think about that for hours, right?
Say you do that for an hour or two hours, that's, you know, 60 to 100 videos, 6 to 120 videos that you've watched. That's a lot of information to intake.
Like that's insane.
Sorry, we kind of went on a way big rabbit hole, but that's okay. It's our podcast so we can do what we want.
Hey, that's what these free flow episodes are all about, right?
So what question do you have next?
Okay, so my question for you. We kind of talked about this on a previous free flow, but this is a little different.
What was one of your favorite TV shows from your childhood and what would you say, or how would you say it's influenced your taste today?
Oh man, that's hard because, and Micah can relate to this, our parents raised us kind of with the older generation.
So they were kind of definitely old school in their beliefs and definitely taste in TV. So I did watch a lot of older shows.
But of course one that I loved was Walker Texas Ranger. You know, Walker Texas Ranger. I loved that one.
Going back and watching it now, you're like, man, that was very cheesy.
Oh, it's incredibly cheesy. It's very, and the funny thing is he, they get into a lot of situations that they don't necessarily have to get into.
But anyways, go ahead.
Oh, COPS was probably a big one when I was in high school because I wanted to go.
COPS, yeah.
But as far as like the TV lineup, home improvement, fresh prints, Saved by the Bell, those were all good shows that I loved.
And of course as a kid, like, you know, I liked watching Arthur, all that good stuff.
We talked about Bible Man the other night when we were gaming and that was the one that.
So honestly, I don't know what it is. I just enjoyed like just different kinds of shows and kind of,
as I know, I know you're asking about my childhood, but I was like very, I would say sheltered, not sheltered, but kind of a little bit more.
My parents were a little bit more conservative in what they let me watch.
Umbrella.
And so, and so I missed out on watching a lot of good movies from that era.
Fast forward to when I'm in high school, moving out, and then I get in a relationship with my now ex-wife.
She was very controlling about what I could watch and what I couldn't watch.
So there were a lot of movies that I didn't see.
And so during the period of my divorce and everything, like I watched a ton of movies, like just some that I was like, man, these are such great iconic, iconic movies, but I've never seen them.
And so I just took like a self discovery of, hey, I'm going to watch all these movies and I'm always a sucker for like a good story.
So it doesn't matter, like you can get, you can grab my attention and I can be invested in the story.
And so really and truly, I know that was a long answer, but I don't know if it affects the way that I see TV shows now.
But again, I kind of go back to those like comfort shows like the Bernie Mac show, King of the Hill, my wife and kids, the office, like all those comfort shows I have to watch.
Like I can't watch anything super serious before bed and it takes a lot for a TV show to like get my attention.
Do you still watch Everybody Loves Raymond? Do you still watch that one?
Yeah, we watched Everybody Loves Raymond, but we didn't watch Everybody Loves Raymond until I got older.
Again, we've talked about this on the podcast about how both of our parents were kind of like and the church we grew up in was like, yeah, they just kind of make fun of Ray because he's kind of a jerkwad, a clueless dad that doesn't know what's going on.
And so I wasn't really allowed to watch a lot of shows like that.
Yeah, it was bad imagery on the father of the family.
Yeah, I couldn't watch Spy Kids 2 for that reason.
Oh, because they kind of crapped on the dad, really?
Yeah, they kind of got like on the bad guy. What was his name? Donovan?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so it was kind of that way. I remember I watched it only once and then they were like, yeah, you're not watching this ever again, which is okay because that's literally the worst Spy Kids of all three.
But what about you? What were some shows that you're like, man, this influenced me and now it influences the way that I watch TV shows today?
You know what's really interesting, what you were talking about being sheltered?
I think the first time that I really broke out TV show wise, I remember so my parents, they had jobs until five o'clock, but I got out of school.
It was early. It was like 2.45 and I would walk home and so it'd be about three o'clock.
So I'd have like two, two and a half hours whenever they would get home and I couldn't go outside.
I was a latchkey kid.
They were so afraid about somebody abducting me and I was like six foot at like 10.
So it's like it would have had to work to get me in the van anyways.
So, you know, home improvement was one, but for me, I remember where it was like, oh, this is kind of interesting because we only had
20 channels. We had basic.
That was more than me.
I only had 20 channels.
I think you guys had like what three, four, six.
Okay. Well, it's a little better than I thought.
We had 20 and one of them was would always have Jerry Springer on and then the other one had the other one had Dr. Phil.
And like I didn't really know about so Jerry Springer is kind of where I learned about a lot of things.
Like I did not know what certain things were. I did not know what trans people were at all until that show came about.
And it was it was the era of Jerry Springer.
Like and I tend to watch it back now and like the earlier ones were kind of tame.
And I think it was probably for insurance reasons that they couldn't have people.
It's like after a while, bro, I was I was like in the wild phase of Jerry Springer where they had like and you know, I'm sorry to some of our listeners here,
but they had like stripper poles in the middle of the freaking thing.
And like, I mean, it was it was pretty like I was you watch it back and I was like, man, I'll watch this as a kid.
You were you started off watching it when Jerry was just trying to help people and then he gave up and he was like, well, this is already a circus.
Yeah. He's like, you watch you watch the pizza era episode.
Yes, I did. I'm pretty sure I probably saw it.
It was exactly the pizza era.
And what he's referring to is there's this big anyways, you can watch Jerry Springer and you figure it out.
Yeah, skip over that.
Yeah, we're going to go talk about that.
Watch the episode for the best.
Good memory, though, getting ready for Chris's wedding.
Like that's exactly what we did.
We were getting ready at his apartment and we were watching Jerry Springer and that episode came anyways.
So there was like that.
And then Dr. Phil, I know Dr. Phil was kind of, but those kind of opened my world to like trash reality TV, I guess.
And, you know, I wouldn't say that I watch stuff like that now, but I do.
I could tell I tend to watch like parking wars.
Some of these other ones to where they're they're pretty fake.
Right. They're pretty fake shows, but they're they're funny.
I don't know how to describe it.
So I think it does.
It did influence me to a certain degree.
And, you know, how much of that is because I, you know, I do think it's funny, but how much of it is because everybody else in my life were like, those shows are garbage.
That's trash.
You don't want to watch that kind of thing.
And it's kind of like, oh, fun, risque to watch things that are.
But your whole family is a Jerry, Jerry Springer episode.
I'm just telling you.
I mean, and maybe that's what it is.
Maybe that's why they didn't want me watching it is because maybe a family member had been on there at one point.
They just told me to see the story line to me is that your your parental units were so worried about someone abducting you, but they gave you access to Internet and TV like at home, which is why now I have a question.
When was the era or phase that you just started watching Family Guy?
Was it just, hey, it's on.
So I'm just going to start watching it pretty much.
Yeah.
That's pretty much what it was.
Actually, so it's it was actually fifth grade, fifth grade because it was adult swim is where I started watching that.
And that was because me and this other kid, I wouldn't say like we were the black sheep of the grade.
But like, we were kind of the troublemakers.
Like, one, once I got older didn't really happen.
But one of the things that we thought were really cool was it was like, oh, yeah, like, yeah, I'm not going to watch this.
Like we can watch adult swim and we can watch like robot chicken was the thing.
I don't know why in the fifth grade it was like robot chicken was funny, but it was edgy as mess.
Right.
Like it was definitely not for fifth graders at all.
And so started watching that.
But what came on a lot before that was King of the Hill Family Guy, that sort of thing.
Now, I did like King of the Hill back then, but I didn't understand it as much as I did.
Once I got older, like once I got older, Family Guy, I feel like there's a lot of jokes that I didn't fully get till I got older.
But there's enough stupid humor in there to make kids laugh.
Like I think that's what I don't know how to describe that.
That is very true.
I remember you wanting me to watch Family Guy when we were over and I was like, no, like I shouldn't.
It's not it's not good.
And kind of what like what was the breaking part for me was when I went to Washington, D.C. on that trip, I was rooming with this kid named Billy.
And Billy was like, let's watch this show.
And I was like, hmm, like we really shouldn't.
And like it was on and I was like, OK, this show isn't that bad.
It's kind of funny.
And then that's when like whenever I got back, I was like, hey, like it's OK if we watch Family Guy.
Now, even now, like I still don't like the jokes that they make about Jesus and like all that stuff.
Like that bothers me.
So now that it's on streaming, I'll skip that.
But like, yeah, back then I would just kind of like, no, this is not OK.
It was one of those things it's like I think it was because it was at least in, you know, for my parents when the ads would come on or stuff like that.
It's just like that's not a kid's cartoon.
That's a bad cartoon kind of thing.
And then you come to watch it, though.
And it's like it's really not that bad.
Even as a kid, even the jokes I didn't understand.
Yeah, they're raunchy and yeah, they're kind of edgy.
But really and truly, it's like I could have went on the Internet and found a ton worse even at the time.
Right.
Well, what's what's weird is I like, we remember when we would have like I spend the night at your house and we would watch TV and like we watched Dave Chappelle.
And I thought Dave Chappelle was funny.
Like I didn't think it was that bad.
And so but I thought Family Guy was way worse than Dave Chappelle.
So I was like, Dave Chappelle, he's funny.
I'm going to watch him.
Family Guy, no.
And in reality, Dave Chappelle was like probably pretty up there.
Like we didn't get the jokes, a lot of jokes that he was making.
But I thought he was funny.
So I was like, yeah, he's cool.
He's cool with me if we watch it.
But see, my thing is I think it was the general premise.
And again, it's like even if you're not getting the in depth jokes of like what they're talking about, he was loud and had that goofy voice at the time enough to make kids laugh.
Right.
It just was funny to watch.
That was actually interesting to think about.
I figure most cable packages at the time, you know, I remember having those 20 channels,
but Cartoon Network was one of them and Comedy Central was one of them.
And that was kind of interesting because typically they come with more like premium packages.
So I'm not sure how that was a thing.
Comedy Central and Cartoon Network are both on the Turner.
And that makes sense.
Brand of whatever it is.
And being in Georgia, you probably got the Turner brand of whatever it was.
Doesn't Turner.
They have a stake in Comcast.
I'm pretty sure we had Comcast because I think all of our channels pretty much because we had TNT, TBS, like all the other ones too.
So probably makes sense.
Yeah, that probably makes that that makes a lot of sense why you got those channels.
Yeah.
So pretty much my TV nostalgia apparently was brought to you by Turner Broadcasting.
Praise God.
That's great.
So kind of moving on to like a progression because that's great because last question kind of leads into this next question.
When was the moment or maybe moments or things that happened in your life where you realized, hey, I'm officially an adult now.
Like, hey, I'm actually an adult where you kind of moved from.
Yeah, like I'm still kind of a teenager, young kid now to, hey, like I'm a actual adult.
That's a good question.
I still go through that sometimes.
And I think mine is more money wise.
Like how do I put this money wise?
Like there'll be some things that I want or something like that and I'll be like, oh, no, I can't do that.
And it's just like, man, it's my money.
I can do what I want with it.
Like sometimes sometimes like stuff like that.
But I think for me, man, so it was moving out of my last apartment where I had a roommate, right?
And, you know, I was with my wife and we moved to an apartment and it was our first apartment.
You know, just the two of us.
And I remember it took pretty much the whole time that I was there the whole like first year
to realize like, hey, you can hang out in the living room without it being, you know, nobody else is here.
You can hang out in the living room sort of thing.
I don't know if that's necessarily an adult thing, but like, at least in my house, like,
at least in my household, whenever I was a kid, it wasn't necessarily like I wasn't allowed in the
living room, but that was not my space, right? Like that was absolutely not my space.
Well, you didn't have a reason to really go to the living room because you had a TV in your room,
like all your stuff was in your room.
Like you go to the kitchen, grab food, and then like there was really no reason to hang out.
Did I ever tell you why I had a TV in my room?
It was because they got, they got mad.
So pretty much what happened was like, we would never like agree on what to watch.
And what ended up happening, I don't remember, it was like this big blow up fight.
And I really think it was just an excuse for my parental units to buy a new TV.
But they were just like, we're sick and tired of having this fight of like what to put on and whatnot.
So it's like, we're, because I remember it was a, it was the bubble TV, like it was the bubble,
you remember that thing, the bubble TV?
And it was like, had that biggest problem that I had, like,
oh, I can share this story.
The biggest problem that I had, I don't know if you remember this, but the,
the jack in my room, like the cable jack did not work.
So it was like, if I wanted to get cable, what I had to do was we had like rabbit ears,
but it was like one of the kind of modern ones, like more modern ones, I guess.
And I just remembered, like sometimes it would work in the room.
And then sometimes you would have to kind of like stick it outside the window,
you remember that, or you'd have to like stick it outside the window.
I don't, I don't know any of this.
Like all this that you're telling me is like brand new news to me.
Really? You don't remember this?
Yes. Like I don't think we've ever talked about this.
The funny part was like, you would, well, I guess it makes sense because most of the time
when you came over, at least when I had the bubble TV, because I had the bubble TV, right?
And then I remember like I started doing chores and like, I saved up some money and I bought a,
a small flat screen TV.
Like I bought that with my own money.
I remember that, like, and so I moved on to that thing.
Which back then flat screen was like top of the, like, like,
super top of the line.
Thank you for you to get a flat screen TV.
You know, I still got that TV too.
Like it's funny because I thought it was super thin back then and that thing is bulky as mess.
Anyways, I end up like these, it had these like little rabbit ears, right?
And so sometimes it worked in, in the room.
Sometimes it did not.
For some reason, and I have no idea why, when it would not work in the room and you're holding it
outside the window to get the signal, literally you would have to hold on to this thing.
I don't know why, but like if you held it, you would get a signal.
But if you like released it, because there was kind of a hook on the, kind of on the outside
wall there that you could hook it to, you know, if you just hooked it up there and like thought,
okay, yeah, it's going to do that.
And you even tried to adjust it on the hook, like would not work if you weren't touching it.
I have no idea why.
Like touching it was the key.
So a lot of the times, like if you weren't getting a signal, you just walk over there,
touch it or like, WAP it.
And all of a sudden you start getting a signal.
I have no idea why.
That's wild.
Because it was wild.
Kids today will never know like that or like whenever, because most of the time now,
like video games are digital, but whenever you would put a like disc in the Xbox or PlayStation
or whatever and it wouldn't work and you'd be putting it on the screen and you'd be secretly
hoping it would load or you'd have to like tap the Xbox or tap the PlayStation and then it would
load like the feeling of, yes, it's finally working.
Like sometimes the game will work.
Sometimes it won't like, will it work today or not?
Yeah.
Kids will these days will never know.
See, I only ever remember really the glass screen TV, but I never knew why you had a TV
in your room.
I thought your parents just was like, hey, like we're going to just put a TV in his room.
I never knew that.
But see, and then the dumb part was there for a little bit, it was kind of off and on
because they put the TV in the room and then there was like a series of time where I didn't
get good grades and so they like to took the power cable to the TV.
So it just sat there like it was there, but it just, you know, you couldn't do anything with it.
And then I remember getting the power cord back and like, I don't think I had it for a year or
two.
Like it was, I didn't have it for too long before I got that flat screen.
Feeling like an adult was obviously when I moved out, right?
Like when I was living with you guys, that was part of it.
Like having my own apartment and just being having to pay bills and having you set up
electricity and all that stuff, which I did that when I was 19 or 20.
But I don't think I really felt like officially I have become an adult and this is going to
sound really morbid, but until after my dad like passed away, just because like having to deal with
the funeral arrangements, having to be there to like carry the weight of the family, like that
put a lot on me.
And so it was kind of like, I couldn't go back to like, Hey, like I'm just going to go out and
just do whatever.
Like I think that really kind of shifted my mindset.
And so like on the other side of that, I was like, Oh, like this is what being an adult really is.
And so for me, that's when I kind of felt that shift to where it's like, Hey, like I'm an adult,
like I'm like you now where it's like, Hey, I still sometimes like, man, they let me be an adult
or Hey, they let me be in charge.
Like what?
Like I'm, but I think that's just the kid at heart and that we both have like that.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, and going back to the original, I know we kind of dove off on another thing.
I'll tell you where my mind where I distinguish the whole like, Hey, I'm mortal.
You know, when you're younger, it's like, man, you feel immortal.
You feel like nothing can take you out.
I remember the moment where it was like, Oh man, I could, I could go at any time.
I was, I was flying like I was actually flying the plane.
Like I was doing a flight lesson and I took off and this is whenever I was an adult,
like the second time around going to flight school and I took off and it was very gusty that day.
And I didn't apply enough right rudder and for those pilots out there, you know exactly what
I'm talking about.
And we went into a slip, which is I could explain it, AKA it's not very good.
And when you're very low off the ground, you know, it could very easily equal death.
And so being that low to the ground, looking at the ground, I remember being like, Yep,
we could die.
We could die today.
And that was the, and like, that was the moment that I realized like, yeah, it could happen
anytime.
Like, I don't know that ever since then I could say like that was the moment that was
like, Yep, you're not, you're not immortal.
For sure.
Things can happen.
I'm not young anymore.
Like every time I get ready to go to a Six Flags or I'm having a, it was when it's when
we joke about this, like you're packing your bag to go on a trip and then you're packing
like a bag full of medicine just in case.
That's how you know where you're officially adult.
Like, yeah, like just in case, just in case.
It's like a bag full of medicine.
It's just like, and for me, I'm pasty white.
So it's like, Oh, I got to make sure I got my sunscreen, but it's got to be, and especially
if you're flying, it's like, but it's got to be TSA size.
Yep.
It's like, I got to make sure I got the allergy medicine.
I got to make sure I got the stomach medicine, the flu medicine in case anything.
Got to make sure I got the ad bill just in case we do something too crazy this week.
Like, and it's just like, because Lord knows I've been on this trip and it's like,
you don't want to try to find that Walgreens when you in a pinch.
It's like you want to have it all on hand.
So it's like you just go prepared.
Man, that's funny.
All right.
So you ready for your next question?
How do you feel about the music and pop culture trends of the early 2000s compared to what's
popular now?
Now, I know that I know probably what you're going to answer, but what are some pros and
cons?
Like, what do you, what do you like about the early 2000s?
You know, I would probably say we can even say 2000 to 2010 versus what's popular now
and things like that.
Are there anything that you actually like about nowadays or anything?
So kind of going to your question.
I, and again, we've said this before, I feel like there was a lot of distinguished types
of music.
So there was like kind of a mix of different music genres to like.
I feel nowadays like people either like three, they either like rap, they like pop or they
like country, right?
Like most people now.
And then some of it's just a blend.
Like back in the 2000s, like you would have very distinct types of music.
Like you would have, of course, emo rock, you would have heavy metal, you would have,
of course, pop, you would have like rap and even rap back then, like there was different
types of rap.
So there's like Texas rap, there's West Coast rap, there's Atlanta rap, there's just,
there's just all different kinds of rap, right?
And then you have country, right?
Whole bunch of different country subsects.
And so now I feel like it's all kind of more mainstream and blended together.
But what's interesting about back then is the fact that your music, the type of music
you listen to was kind of almost like you're kind of defined you, right?
Like it was your label.
It's like, oh, like, yeah, I listen to emo music.
So I'm going to address like an emo person or yeah, I listen to pop.
So I'm going to address like, I don't know, like there was more kind of, I felt like defined
groups or clicks.
Or whatever you say, but I will say the benefit of now is the streaming.
The streaming is great because you can literally make a mix, like a list.
You can make a playlist for anything.
And back in the early 2000s, of course, you had to buy CDs, right?
You could only pick like, hey, I only want to listen to this band or whatever.
And then when MP3 and iPod came out, they made it a little bit more easier,
but you would still have to go buy the song and download it onto your device.
And now with the smartphones, like you can literally, it's easy for you to make a playlist.
I feel like you see now, like weddings nowadays, some of them have a DJ, but you don't really
need a DJ if you have Spotify on your phone.
Yeah, most people just make Spotify a playlist.
Yeah, like it was good to go.
Like, and that's why I feel like a lot of weddings now, like where you used to spend
money on a DJ, you don't really have to anymore.
So I think the music scene is definitely, I don't know, they're pros to it.
But again, it's kind of been all mainstream and blended.
I like that now people kind of listen to a mix and blend of both.
I find a lot of people now with their playlist, yeah, there are certain artists that they really dig.
I said dig, I was like, man, that's like 2000s word to use.
Listen, man, I really dig them dog, right?
Like for a vibe with.
But now it's kind of more like, hey, I like this song.
Like, I don't really care too much.
Yeah, this artist is okay, but I really like this song.
And so it's easy just to take one song because with the album, you could be like, yeah, I only
really like two songs off this album and then you're stuck with the whole album, right?
Well, and that's the thing that I didn't understand about back, not to interrupt you,
sorry.
That's the thing I didn't understand about that back then was you'd buy the whole CD
and typically unless it's a really good CD and now there are some of them out there like,
man, I basically like the whole thing besides two songs.
That's, but those are few and far between.
I think you're right.
Most of the time I bought the song, most of the time you bought the album for one song.
If you had two on there, that's great.
But it's like most of the time it's they have a hit.
The rest of the album is kind of garbage, but they got their hit on this album.
I will say with albums back then nowadays, it's like, hey, I'm just going to put out
a couple songs on this album, like whatever pops, whatever.
But there was a cohesion to the album.
Like you kind of know what I mean.
Yeah, there was a story.
Like there was a story.
A story to it.
It's like, hey, like we're going to, there was a pacing to the album, like, hey,
and if each track kind of followed in to like they were succinct with each other, like,
or you would have intro tracks where it's like, hey, I'm just going to do this intro,
whatever.
This isn't a song, but this is going to lead into the next song.
Like albums were a piece of work as a whole.
And like intro songs, typically they were only like a minute, minute and a half.
And they kind of just kind of, you know, maybe they were a good beat, but it did like set it off.
I don't know.
I think rap back then is I noticed a lot of times that for every like hype club party banger,
it was like the very next song was always like a slower like R&B, like with a female vocal in
there too, like I felt like it was, it was always funny because you would have like all these
gangster rappers and then like one of the next songs, it would be like kind of like an R&B hit.
You know what I mean?
Or like an R&B feel.
It was kind of funny.
But yeah, it was, it was different in that era.
You know, I'm not, I'm not a huge fan of a lot of genres.
Like I guess some of the pop stuff is, is okay.
But like, like you were saying, a lot of it's blended together.
And I mean, then again, Chris can tell you my taste in music is just different.
It's kind of why you think I'm me making music like the intro.
It's because it's because that's the kind of music I'm into.
So I want you to name and if you have any, that's cool.
If not, just say, I don't really, can you name like any maybe two or three artists that are
newer that you're like, you know what, I do try to think man, not off the top of my head.
Because like everything that I'd be thinking about, like here's what's hard.
Like everything that I'd be thinking about, I'm like, yeah, but can they really be classified
as newer? That's like 2018.
I would say 2018.
Yeah. No, I would say 2018 till now.
You would say 2018.
Like I like some of the E40 songs, like rap wise and then, or maybe like the one.
And then there are a few, there are a few like rap bangers that come out like non-mumble rap.
You know, there's still some bangers that come out, but just not again, like you said,
I don't know if I'm typically like, yeah, it's the artist, but like some of the songs in particular.
Yeah.
I'm gonna tell you a couple of mine and don't judge me.
Bruno Mars, I do like Bruno.
I don't have a problem with him. I think he's, I think it's fine.
The weekend, I do enjoy the weekend.
Okay, I will say that. The weekend's pretty good. I would say that.
And this last one, this is like, you're gonna judge me and I can already feel the judge.
It's all good. It's all good. What's going on?
Billie Eilish.
Billie Eilish? I mean, it is what it is, man.
No, just say the judgment. I can hear it. I can hear it on the other side of the phone.
Hey, man, if you listen, if you said you were a Swifty, I feel a little different, but like Billie,
Billie Eilish is Billie Eilish is it is what it is.
You know, people have some like, some people have called her like the anti Taylor Swift.
Like basically it's Taylor Swift, but like in a different dimension. I don't know.
I don't judge. Bruno Mars is pretty good. I mean, Uptown Funk was a good song.
I know that was a ways ago, but still this next one I have.
What is a bucket list item that you're really wanting to check off soon?
I was going to talk to you about it. I, something that I've been really,
a lot of what my bucket list is turned into as an adult is a lot of aviation based things,
but that's not what I'm talking about. How open would you be to going to a rave with me,
but maybe not one here in the States? Because it seems like all the going back to the weird music
that I like seems like all the weird music I like tends to be in Europe and they don't,
the artists that I like don't tend to come to the States.
I don't know. I'll have to see what the, what the scene is. I know with Raze,
there is drugs that's like associated with that idea or I don't know what that scene.
Oh, for sure.
And so I'm kind of like, I don't know. I might go, I might drop you off. I might come in for like
five minutes, 10 minutes, say what's up and then be like, all right, bro. Like we'll see,
we'll see how I'm feeling. I'm not saying no. I feel like that is definitely more your scene
than my scene. No, it's definitely that. The only, the only reason I say that is,
or the only reason I ask is cause it's like you said, sometimes the scene can be a little,
and I'm also one of these, when I say weird people, yeah, there's a lot of extra chemical
activities going on, but I like the music sober. Like, I mean, I don't, I like it completely sober.
And you know, there are other people out there, but there's going to be stuff like that that goes on.
I think for me, it's not something that my wife would want to go to. She don't like crowds.
She don't like things like that. I think the other reason I'd be asking is like, I know it's
maybe not your bag, but like at the same time, it's like, as a whole, me, if I'm going to go to
another country, I'm not exactly going to want to go to another country in a crowd. You know what
I mean with, oh yeah, I'll definitely, if you're going to another country, I'm going to make sure
you're safe and you get, get there and you know, nothing's going to happen while you're there.
I would probably go just to make sure you're all that's pretty much it. As far as like, hey,
are you going to actively like participate? Probably you ain't going to be seeing me dressing up in
no cyber gods. Doing the little, doing the little, doing the little, doing the little, doing the little
little neon glow sticks. Yeah. You're not going to be doing neon glow sticks, doing like Trivium
show stuff. It's funny though. I mean, like it's funny because I've seen those videos and I'm like,
man, but that definitely is like a European German. Yeah. It's, it's the style and you know,
a lot of what I attribute that to is, you know, whenever I was a kid living in Germany,
I used to listen to the radio pretty much all night and early 2000s electronic music was very,
very, very, very popular. So, you know, it's not surprising that, you know, you listen to that kind
of stuff in your formable years. That's what you want to listen to later on. And electronic music,
a lot of, and a lot of the different genres that I like have come a long way and whatnot. But
yeah, we can go into all that later. But yeah, that's, that's one of the things on my bucket list
that, you know, you kind of want to do those things when you're young. That's, I mean, going
overseas and, and, you know, going to a rave, that's not something that typically, like maybe you do,
but like typically you're not going to do that at 4550, right? So for sure. I think one is we've
talked about skydiving. So I would definitely like to do that soon. I also am really hoping,
crossing my fingers that I still get to meet Sting the wrestler this October. I think things are
still going to work out for us to do that. God willing. Fingers crossed. That's kind of a big
one. Cause like he's like, he's up there for me as probably like my second or third favorite wrestler.
And so to meet someone like that, like to other people like, Hey, it's not that big of a deal.
But that's, there were three wrestlers on my bucket list that I said I wanted to meet in 2024.
Cody Rhodes, Sting and CM Punk. And so if I can get two of the three for 2024, that'll be a good
year in my book. Heck, yeah. Do you hear a Goldberg son is playing football in Colorado?
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. The Sanders. Yeah. He looks pretty
cool. My next question here. How do you think that the Cold War or even the current Cold War
has affected the U S international relations with everyone else? Do you think that one,
let's break this question up a little bit. I think that's kind of a broad question that I just asked.
One, do you believe that the Cold War is still going on? Do you believe that it ever actually
ended? There's always been those underlying like tensions with, with Russia and all that stuff.
And I think that has been maybe present, but I, I don't feel like it's still going on. I do feel
like, Hey, maybe there are some underlying tensions and sometimes with the way that we interact with
them, it's kind of like, Hey, like, we're going to do this together, but I still don't really trust
you type deal. I do think that there were a lot of scandals that have been covered up in American
history because of the Cold War. And I think that kind of forced us to quote unquote, win it.
Any means necessary. And again, I'm not, I don't want this to be a conspiracy podcast, but people
who argue that the moon landing was fake, obviously because of Cold War, do I believe that we landed
on the moon? Yes, I do, but I don't believe that we were the first ones to do it. I think the Russians
actually did. And so I think we, that propaganda, that studio filming and all that stuff was filmed
so that we could just say, Yeah, we got ahead, we beat Russia, pride and ego. So I think that
affects things. So I think there were still some kind of like underlying like tensions with Russia.
It's like, Hey, we're going to work with you, but we don't 100% fully trust. And I mean, I definitely
know that Ukraine is, and that whole situation is ramp things up rumor has it that technically,
we're in a war with them right now and cyber war or things like accurate. Would you say, you know,
I know we are funding Ukraine and things like that. Would you say that we're secretly fighting a war
with Russia right now? If we are, I don't know about it because I'm not that like involved with
the news and all that stuff. So I don't think I have a legitimate opinion to say whether we are.
Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, US foreign policy is always very interesting. I'm going to go back a
little bit further to how do you feel about dang, I'm blanking on the policy that basically they
followed this up until World War One, World War Two, you know, we stay on our own continents here
or we stay on our own side of the planet, you know, I'm talking about like, what do you mean? Like,
Hey, we're not going to the idea that we stay on the Western Hemisphere. We're not going to get
involved with what goes on in the Eastern Hemisphere. And we broke that pretty much. Yeah, I mean,
we obviously broke that when we did World War Two. Do you think that that still has any merit?
Like as far as because there's a lot of people that say, you know what, we should stick to our own.
Or do you think that our economy is global? Everything is too global for us not to have vested
interests and other other things. Think when it comes to injustices, like obviously with World
War Two, I don't think we should turn a blind eye, right? Like obviously, Hitler was killing a lot of
Jews. And so I think in those moments, we should get involved. Now, if there's like oil disputes,
which is what a lot of what wars are fought over, and all that stuff, like, I'm like, man, like,
we got to take care of our own dude. Like now, if it's getting to a point where there's like,
again, another Hitler that's rising up and that they're just conquering and they're on up on a
path to destroy the world, then yes, we should get involved. I do think we should. I do think
if they're attacking our allies, we should help, right? Like I think we should. But as far as like,
hey, like, and I'm going to be very careful what I say, but it's like, hey, if another country
and another and this other country are kind of getting in a dispute, let them fight it out. Now,
if it becomes a thing of, hey, this other country is bullying them, like kind of how I guess people
would say Russia did with Ukraine. Yeah, I think we should probably get involved. They kind of be
like, Hey, let's let's stand up for the little guys. But I don't think we should get involved with
every single one. I'm pretty much done with that one. I can go on for a long time with that one,
but we're going to I'm going to refrain. What is the weirdest food combination that you enjoy?
Oh, man, weirdest food combination. You know, a lot of people say that this is weird. And I don't
know what you think. I like to do waffles like the, you know, egg waffles or the the toaster waffles,
and put a little butter on them, put like some ham and cheese on there. And I think that's pretty
good. But yeah, that's that's what I'm saying. Like so many people are like, Oh, that's gross. I'm
like, What are you talking about? It's pretty much like a piece of bread with some butter on there.
Like you ain't got to just put syrup on there. Like you could put butter with some cheese,
like melt some cheese and some ham on there. It's pretty good. And again, this could be just me
speculating or pontificating, but I feel like that's a that's 14 year old Micah coming out.
It's like, well, all I got, all I got in the kitchen is some waffles and some ham and cheese.
I'm gonna throw that all there, bro. You can make yourself a sandwich. I'll buy you some bread. It's
okay. You ain't got to put the wall man is I'm telling you like that's that's that's my weird one.
And then of course, a lot of people, you know, it depends on what camp you're in. I like deep grits,
but like not just grits, I'll do the same thing. Like I'll put butter with some,
with some like ham and cheese, like cheese ain't the weird part, but like me dicing up some ham.
Some people like that's weird. So as weird, I personally wouldn't do it. But I think I'm like,
okay, I can see like maybe where you would enjoy that. I can see that. It's like, it's actually
pretty good. Like if you put something like some sort of savory meat in there, so it's pretty,
it's pretty good. I like that kind of stuff. But like to me, that's some like real south food.
Like, I mean, some grits with some ham in it, like Jesus, that's that's south south stuff. But
yeah, how about yourself? What's what's some weird interesting food combination? You like
some like fried peanut butter sandwich or something? No, if I have a weird food combination,
that like I'm, I'm that weird person that I don't like milk in my cereal. So that's maybe weird,
but dude, I'm not like, but you just don't like it because it's a texture thing, right? Because
it gets too soggy. I don't, yeah, I don't like that. I don't know, man. Like I don't think there is a
weird food combination that I have. I just, I don't know. I'll have to think about that one. If it
comes up, I'll, I'll mention it. Let's substitute it. Is there anybody in your immediate life right
now that you're like, you know what, that person, I've, you know, I've seen the meat this and this
and it's kind of weird. Oh my, my wife and I can't remember what it is, but she, she does have a weird,
she does have a weird combination thing of something she eats and I can't remember off the top what it
is, but it's like something that's kind of like they wouldn't go together. It's like something sweet
and something kind of like tuna. I don't know what you're remembering like two in the morning.
Yeah, I remember like three in the morning, but yeah, off the top of my head, I can't think she
does have some, but I can't remember what they are. Man, I had this cousin, man, and she put
ketchup on like almost everything. And when I say everything, I'm talking like everything, like
cheesecake ketchup. Yeah, I'm serious. Like, wow. Anyways, we can move on before we gross people
out too much. We've kind of talked about this, but we'll talk, we'll ask just so the listeners
can get it. What were some memorable toys or video games that you played growing up? Memorable
toys. I don't really remember too much. Well, you really didn't have too many toys per se.
No, I didn't. Yours was more, I remember like your parents were more like, I remember they got you
like not an acoustic guitar, they got you a bass at one point. But I thought they gave you like a
beginner guitar. And then like, it's like, if you wanted, if you wanted to, I know you had like a
basketball, a football, like you had stuff like that. You know what I mean? Like it was. Yeah, we
had basketball, football, we had an air hockey table. There were more like activities than like
just toys. I didn't have a lot of toys. Video games, I remember the first ever game system we got
was a Nintendo GameCube and we got Mario Party 7 on it. And I remember we got that for Christmas
and I really enjoyed playing that. And then we got Madden 2006. That was a big one. Micah got
me Need for Speed Hot Pursuit. Pursuit 2. 2. That was a big one that I played for a while. Again,
like I had a game system, but I didn't have a lot of video games. The Incredibles, we talked about
that. So early on when we got a GameCube, my parents didn't know to get a memory card. And so
we, my mom would have these weekly Bible studies with these ladies and we would have to go with her
through the summer. And so the lady was like, Hey, we're going to put you in this room. Like you
could bring your GameCube and hook it up to the TV. And so my brother and I would always see how
far we could get in the Incredibles game because when we had to turn it off, like we, like all the
stuff was unsafe. So every time we played that game, it would be unsafe progress. I do remember
we eventually got a, like we eventually got a memory card. And then we got a Wii and we got
Wii Sports. And then I don't really remember any other game except for Wii Sports and Wii Sports
Resort that we played on there because you could play the GameCube games on there. And we didn't
have a PlayStation or an Xbox or anything. So any video games I played other than that,
we're at Micah's house. So those were kind of the memorable video games for sure. Madden, Mario
Party 7, Wii Sports and Hot Need for Speed Hot Pursuit too. It had to be a different friend,
man. You did not have a 007 game. Did you? Like a James Bond game? No, I did not have that. It
must have been. I had another friend that had a GameCube and I'm pretty sure he had the 007
game. But like, I see so many reels and videos like nostalgia ones where they'll, where it's
like the intro music for the 007 game from the GameCube. Oh yeah. Well, that one was on N64.
That's what that one was. Oh, was it? Yeah. The 007. That one was like, that's an iconic game.
It's kind of hard to play, but it's fun. I think there was another one that came out like a later
one on the GameCube because I know it was definitely GameCube, but it was like some of them had the
same music or some of them had the same. That game was kind of the pioneer of like, you call a duty
and like Halo to where you're like fighting your friends and stuff and you can fight your friends.
And it was that first person shooter kind of thing. So that one was kind of a pioneer, but yeah.
It was fun. I remember playing that game at my friend's house. I used to love playing that game.
It was, I just remember the storyline. The main bad guy's name was Drake.
That was the main bad guy's name. One that's like iconic for me playing at your house though was Halo
and I'm terrible at those. Halo. Yeah. I had pretty much most of the Halo games over the years. I had
the first one, the second one. I had three. I had Reach. I had ODST at one point. Like, I think I
played and I beat most all of them. Like, I really like Halo. In fact, that's a game I should get
back into. Like, I should get the collection and play it again because that was a really good game.
Like, the storyline is really good too. I really like Halo. I was going to ask you. I was like,
do you like, you answer the question? I think probably mine. Hitman 2 was really, was a fun one.
Yeah, I was into that one pretty good. And then, one of my other ones. So like, I have like,
eras, right? Because, so when we first moved to Georgia, like when I first met you, if you remember,
I had a PlayStation 1, like just a regular PlayStation 1. And I remember having that demo game,
like the demo disc that had like, like 12 different games on there. I remember Spyro was one of them.
I remember Ratchet and Clank was another one. And you know, you'd basically be like the first
level or whatever, right? I remember there was Tarzan. There was, and then, I know you were
remember this one because it was the WWF game from, it was like WWF 2000 because it was Sting
vs. Goldberg. And that was like the only match that you could do. But I remember like being able
to hit people with chairs and stuff. And so like, I remember playing that a good bit. And then,
I think probably the one that it was like, yeah, if I could get a game again and play this again,
like I definitely would. And that was Need for Speed Underground 2. Like that one, that was like,
one of my favorite games. Like the soundtrack was dope. Like I remember there was like,
some really good songs on there. Yeah, it was, it was a really good game. Do you ever remember
playing Need for Speed Underground? I don't really remember. I remember playing Halo. I remember playing
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas and then Red Dead because that was like a big- And see, and see the
thing was Red Dead. Like the only reason I had that is because my parental unit was like, yeah,
like I want to play that pretty much because he wanted to get it. And then San Andreas, if you
remember, I wasn't supposed to have Grand Theft Auto at all. And the only reason I got it was because
I was doing a job at the time and like my boss had given me a gift card to Xbox. Like it was like a
$50 gift card or whatever. And I was like, oh, I could buy San Andreas and download it and they
won't know. And that's exactly what happened. That's exactly what happened. Yeah, that was,
that was pretty good. But like, yeah, I had different eras and I've had quite a few video
game systems over the years actually thinking about it. This one kind of going back to like the
Cold War question. If you could instantly learn the truth about one mystery or one conspiracy,
what would it be? First one that comes to my head is 9-11. Was it actually or was it all
a planned coordinated event? Because I've heard so many crazy outlandish stuff. Like there are so
many crazy outlandish 9-11 conspiracies out there with some of them that have like decent
tangible evidence. And then some of them that are like, man, that's just crazy. But I'm just curious,
it's like, because listen, man, the Bush administration was looking to get into Iraq. And they knew
that something like that. I guess my thing is I knew, I know that they had some level of knowing
that it was going to happen. But just like World War II and Pearl Harbor, like, bro, they knew
Pearl Harbor was going to happen. They just wanted it to happen so that they had an excuse to go in
like the people, you know, because it pisses people off when people die. So it's like, you know,
was that what basically happened? Did they just like let it happen? Or was it a full on plan
coordinated event? Like, we're going to back channel and pay this to happen. And like, you never
know, man, there's all sorts of stuff out there. Like, so that's one that I would like to know
about yourself. This one is a little controversial. Not if there's a, not if there's a treasure map on
the back of the Declaration of Independence, like a national treasure, but with the like Freemasonry.
And of course, you know that like, some of the founding fathers were Freemasons. But I want to
know like, how deep that goes. And like, I also want to know the secrets of it because
it fascinates me because I've heard a lot of different things about it. And, you know, some
people were like, Oh, it's just a charitable organization. But I know that there's like some
deep rooted things. And maybe like, maybe it wouldn't be good for me to know, because if there's a
lot of messed up stuff, but I really want to know like, why is it so secretive? How deep does it go?
Like, and again, we talked about my fascination of cults. It's not because I want to join a cult
or start a cult. I just want to know like, why it's so messed up, why it's so secretive. I guess
I just want the truth to come out. Like, that's all I bring. My question with the whole Freemason
thing is, does it link over to the Bohemian Grove stuff? Or is that two separate things? Like,
maybe Freemason was the deal for the longest time, and there still is influence in it. But then you
have like, Bohemian Grove on the side, you know, as, because there are definitely governing bodies
that we don't know about that are pulling strings and things. And it would not surprise me if the
Masons were one, right? Because of how much, I mean, strength in numbers, they have quite a few
numbers too. Like, that's, that's the big thing. So I don't know, I'd be interested in that too.
Be very interesting. This one is my last question here. What do you think is something that our
country needs to improve upon right now? Like, as far as, and it could be anything, like, do you
think there's something, and you don't necessarily have to have a plan for it. But what do you think
is probably one of our biggest problems that it's like, oh, man, we really need to focus on getting
this fixed right now. I think just unity, I really do think just being unified as a nation. You see
so much division and I, and I feel like the politicians have done that on purpose to create
division. But really, I just want to see unity between people. I want to see people be able to
have conversations if they have differing beliefs and to actually have a civil conversation and to
not try to cancel the other person, not try to yell or berate the other person. But I just want to
see people have unity and to love each other. But I know that that's not going to happen. But
that's probably my answer to your question. Mine is a little bit more, I guess, of course,
everything that I always do is like, yeah, that's pretty dang specific. But man, our infrastructure
is pretty pretty garbage compared to a lot of other countries. You know, there are a lot of
things that we can say, man, we have cutting edge of this or that in our country. And we can say
that for a few things. But our infrastructure is not very good. And I'm not just talking about roads
and bridges. I mean, you know, most city water systems are just some of them, you know, most of
them still have lead pipes, but a lot of what happened going back to the New Deal with FDR,
most of these towns and things, especially small towns and smaller areas, they didn't have running
water and things. And part of the New Deal was bringing running water and things. A lot of that
infrastructure hasn't been replaced since then. So we're talking about things from the 30s, 40s.
And some of these are lead pipes, some of these are asbestos based pipes, like things that are not
great for you, right? And getting into the drinking water, that sort of thing. And they're, I mean,
that's part of the problem with Flint, Michigan, there's other problems with that. But like,
you see it all over the place, there's places in Missouri that's like under permanent
waterbans, like, you know, AKA their water is contaminated and things like that. And so there's
a lot of infrastructure pieces. And then not just that, I was talking to some of a friend of mine
that is from out of country. And a lot of our infrastructure as far as public transport, things
like that public transportation is just so par. His parents think it's wild that he got a car.
Because over and I mean, this is different in Europe, but they live in a very large city in
Europe. But they don't have a car, they have or they do have a car, but it's for long distance
travel. Everything else is bike or walk because there's sidewalks everywhere. There is you go
and take a bus, right? You go and take a bus and there's plenty of bus routes, all this,
you don't need a car. Why do you need a car? And so here it's totally opposite. It's,
there's not a lot of sidewalks. There's not a lot of, if you want to go walk, sometimes it's
really sketchy, right? Like it's not something that you want to necessarily do. And so I think one
of our biggest problems that we have is we don't have accessibility like that. I think there's a
lot of our infrastructure all the way around that needs to be improved upon. We basically built and
didn't think about certain things. I feel like is what happened. And so, you know, I think that's
one of the biggest changes we can make now, but it costs a lot of money. Well, if you live in Texas,
you're going to need a car because it takes you boy, it takes you forever to get anywhere. Yeah,
for real. I love God's country, Texas, but it takes you forever to get a car. Yeah, for sure.
A four hour drive is dropping the hat. Last question. All right. If you wake up tomorrow and you win
a million dollars and if by midnight, you don't spend it, you lose it. What are you spending the
million dollars on? You have to spend all going to buy a house to buy a plane of some sort and see
what's left because, you know, buying the plane is probably going to be quite expensive, depending
on what I get. Could get multiples, but probably spend the rest that on there, you know, and
probably, you know, go ahead and set myself up for buying something to house the plane or something
like that. I can probably spend a million in one day doing that because, you know, that's
expensive crap. How about you? Maybe a new car if I could squeeze that in there. Oh yeah, definitely
gonna pay some bills, buy a house, definitely booking a nice, very nice vacation as we talked
about before. Yeah, for sure. And I think, I don't know, I'm kind of with you. I'm like, man, I could
probably spend a million dollars pretty quickly, buy a couple of houses because once you spend it,
buy it. Well, I don't know. Buy you a condo in Florida while you're at it. Yeah, but I'm like,
dog, like, are you going to have to go through all the paperwork? Are you going to be able to buy
a house like in a day? Like, I don't know. Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, I assume that you can
if it's cash, right? Because, I mean, a lot of the paperwork is, if you're going through a mortgage
lender, so if you're not going through a lender and you show up with a suitcase full of cash,
I mean, I assume that it's just signed the title. I guess it all comes down to the title paperwork
and if they can get the deed over to you and all that crap, but I don't know. It'd be interesting.
That's all schematics, though. I wish I'd tell you the first thing that I'd be doing, though,
if I got a million dollars tomorrow, regardless, I'd be getting a financial advisor. That's what
I'd be doing. A financial advisor? You're going to get a, you have to spend it all in a day. What
I'm saying is if I didn't have to spend it all in a day, like if I just got a million tomorrow,
didn't have to spend it, like that's the first thing I'd be doing is like, hey,
make sure that, make sure I don't spend it all one day and do some stupid crap with it. Make sure
I'm actually, because I'd want to invest some of it, you know what I mean? Or save some of it,
invest some of it. Oh, you best believe we're going to buy them arcade games and we're going to
rent out the whole FOGO to Chow. That's what we're going to do. The whole Frostbank arena. Yeah,
the whole Frostbank arena. That's what I'm going to do. So I could play basketball. There you go.
Play basketball. It's like, bring the Spurs out. Where's Wimbam Yama at? All right, man. Well, I
tell you what, that's a heck of an episode. And I'm telling you, we could just keep on talking
and talking. I love some of these questions because it really makes you think, I got, and you know,
I actually find out a lot of stuff about you that I didn't know before from these questions.
Like there are some things that I'm like, yeah, I know, but like what? Like you just said, if you
were going to spend a million in one day, like I have some idea of what you were going to do, but
nothing, nothing specific, like talking about, you know, like Mario Party and things like that,
man, I didn't know that was something. I got to know that was one of the games, but at the same time,
I don't think I ever played it with you, right? So it being nostalgic. And then things for you to me,
like you didn't know about the rabbit ears with the, with the bubble TV. And I thought you knew
about that too. So it's like finding some things out through these probing questions, which are
pretty good. BMN at the trash can network. Come find us over at the trash can network over on YouTube,
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Did you know that dolphins are also called porpoises? I actually did know that. That's good.
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you for listening to us. We will see you next time. It's time for the Starship to take us on it.
I'm Chris and I'm Michael and this is the Fox Park case.
And then here beside you won't so much to give you this love in my heart that I'm feeling for you.
Let them see we're crazy. I don't care about that. Put your hands in my hand, baby. Don't ever look back.
Let the world around us just fall apart. Maybe we can make it if we're hard to hide.
And we can build this thing together. Standing strong forever. Nothing's gonna stop us now.
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