So not to sound like an old man and talk about old man things
But I think I told you this I was at the car dealership the other day
And this guy was showing me all the stuff like my car could do like with the app on my phone
And he was like you can set your preferences to it'll alert you if you let someone borrow the car
And if they get outside a person certain radius or a certain block or a certain city
Like he was like it'll let you know or it'll let you know how fast they're going you can get alerts
You can set all the parameters and I said so how many
Relationships has this app broke broke up because I could totally see this
Go in sideways like a girlfriend's like yeah
I want to get alerts to know if my man's cheating to see if he going to some other girls house, bro
Like I was sitting there thinking like the worst
Well, you know so they they'd be doing that kind of stuff and then there's also ways with Google Maps and ways and things like that
Where you can all you need is access to the other person's phone and like they only need is an account what not and
You can track these people through all that stuff, bro
I'm sure a lot of relationships have been it because they don't track folks and then I don't I don't know if you've heard about
People put like the little I what what are they called I keys?
No, no, yeah, it's like a tag a little tracker. I tag air tag air tag
There you go, and they're like put them on people's vehicles and like sometimes I get the wheel well like some so I really
Places you wouldn't like check and yeah, there was a whole thing where people get followed like that
So I'm sure I'm sure that happens all the freaking time
But yeah, what did the dealer say he just laughed and he was like well
He was like if it takes this app to find that out
The relationship was probably already do from the start. I was like yeah, you're right
You're right cuz it's like how'd you find out your man was cheap through the Nissan app
But what's crazy is you can disable the vehicle like through the app
So like they could it's like like the bait car, bro
I could only imagine dog like you try to get up the next boarded after leaving your sneaky leaks house and
That vehicles disabled and a car ain't running. Yeah, the car ain't running and you know
They know the location so I bet you all girls gonna be sitting there waiting for you to come on out
Yeah, ladies and gentlemen
If you are having to put itags on your person's vehicle or anything like that
That that relationship is not the one for you
But anyways, you know, we need to insert right here. We need to insert the cheater steam song, you know cheating is
A crime, you know that one
I'll see if I can find it if I can find it. I put it in right here. All right perfect. All right. I'm Chris and I'm Micah
And this is the donut box podcast dude
We are trucking along and it is almost on the other side of August like September's coming up August went by quick
Not to sound like an old man, but I'm like dude August got somewhere to be I guess and you you sounded old as it is
It's all the the men's breakfast you have to attend and just
No, first of all a little bit too much
You are the one could not talk because you're the man that spends his life with the senior living on granted
You're doing that because you're doing it for a good cause I mean fair
You're like, yeah, I was at the senior living home and they want me to join their wee bowling league like like what are you 65?
Yeah, well, I've got wee bowling in the morning
But hey, it takes one to know one from one geriatric person
At heart to another I can recognize that you are an old man
But anyways, well, I will I will say this before we get started Micah has always had a heart for
Elderly people like ever since we were teenagers like he would go to the elderly homes and just make people's day
I don't know for some reason he just really connects with
Elderly people and so I think that's really cool telling you I'm an old person at heart
I just I could I relate to them
It's like if I could sit in my room and uh watch basic cable all day
I'd be a happy camper, but anyways
Uh, not really, but you know anyways, so man, we're on a free flow episode and
I love free flow episodes. So, you know last few times we've been
Asking interviewing probing questions to each other and guess what that's not going to change this week
Since we're on our free flow. We're going to ask each other questions. Man. I uh, wrecked my brain a little bit
This week with some of these questions. So I'm excited to hear your answer on some of these
Well, it sounds like you want to go ahead and start us off since you have all these questions
Oh, oh, okay. Well, all right the first question that I have
Uh, and this has to do with our friendship. What is a personal value or belief?
That you hold that you feel has significantly influenced our friendship
Oh, that's a really good question because that was going to be a similar question that I asked you right off the bat
See, this is why we're friends. Um
I I would say probably just
uh, loyalty like
Um, it for me, it's really hard to let people in but once I let people in
Like I'm loyal to you like I'm loyal to you until you give me a reason to not be
And so I think that has influenced our friendship just the fact of like, hey
Like I'm just going to be around whatever you need
Um, and the one thing that I do appreciate our about our friendship. It's not always about the activity
It's just about like being friends together. So like Mike and I you know, whether it's playing video games or it's doing uber eats
Or it's doing this podcast or it's going fishing or whatever it is like
It doesn't matter like I'm happy to just hang out with my friend like yeah
Like I'll go watch airplanes and just sit there and talk like I may not care about
Like the airplanes as much as my good does but like just hanging out with my buddy
Uh, just talk of all
You know, we watch airplanes. So I think maybe
Uh, I don't know just having that loyalty because loyalty is a big yeah, and I think along the same lines for myself is uh
somebody that's uh
Very trustworthy like what I like about you is you're very accountable. You're accountable to yourself sometimes to a fault
Sometimes you're accountable to yourself to where it's like, hey, uh, you don't have to
Be down on yourself on that. That's actually a good thing. You know what I mean?
It's like some people aren't accountable enough
and you know
Therefore again, if they do something that's not to your liking and you tell them, hey, that's not acceptable
You know a lot of people will just blow you off or whatever. Chris is not that way
In fact, he'll try to make it right almost to a fault. You know what I mean? Like
The man will bend over backwards make sure that like he'll break his back
And you have to tell him like hey, it's not a big and you know that could be kind of somewhat detrimental
you know with some people that try to try to mess with you and
Um
Trying to you know exploit that but at the same time it's like
I don't know. I could trust you a lot because I know that you know
You're being genuine, you know what I mean and that if something happens, you'll make it right
You know, like even if you even if you did something it's like, hey, I'm not about that which
Never really happens and I think it's one of those things too, man
We've known each other for so long. There's not a lot of crap talking that we can do to each other that
Is going to hurt our feelings. So there's not a whole lot that's like, hey, you offended me here
But I know that if there was ever something that what were to happen
I I could talk to you and be like, hey
Like there's a problem and I didn't like that and like you'd make it right, you know, I mean in fact
Again going to the other point. It's like I'd probably have to tell you okay. You've made it right
You can stop now. It's all good. I promise it's all good for sure. I heard this saying is like
Find someone that you can trust your kids with your wife with and your
Money with or your wallet with and if you can trust
Yeah, if you can trust someone with those three things then
That's a friend for life and that's that's for for sure true
Um, so kind of going similar based off and this is I guess kind of a follow-up question and this is the question
I was going to ask you
What's not like affecting our friendship boat?
You said being a trustworthy person is a big deal to you
But what are some other like core beliefs that is just true to who you are like true to who mic is like
You say these are some of my like core beliefs trust is a big thing and then I also say that um
Like you talked about loyalty is a big thing another thing for me is
On it like and I guess it goes along with the trust is uh
Like I
So divulging a little bit
And I used to have a big problem with lying about things like I used to lie left and right in fact like I think at
One point I was probably on the path to be a perpetual liar if I would say so
and you know
things kind of shaped me over the years and it's to the point now where it's like
You've been burned by your own lies you've been burned by other people's lies to the point where
The truth is very important and honesty is incredibly important
And of course that ties into trust as well. I try to be honest to a fault and that's hard to do
because
You know, especially in our society people don't talk about this. We've I think we talked about it when fries my donuts
But sometimes you are expected to lie like let's be let's be real there is some situation
Yes, there are small lies, but you know
Weren't you always told don't even say white lies?
But you know how many times have you been at somebody's house and their food's terrible and you have to say?
Oh, yeah, no, it's great. Right like it's you don't want to hurt their feelings
So you have to lie right you can't say no, it's crap. Yeah, it definitely is and there's a lot more
You know, that's that's a nuance that I can you know name off top of my head
But there's a lot of other ones where you're sitting here going
You know, I'm not 100 I'm not being 100% truthful. You know what I mean? And so it bothers me
those little things bother me, but
I would say that and then
I think worth work ethic is something else like if there's something that I feel like
If there's something that I feel like I can hang my hat on it's it's work ethic. It's like
Yeah, I was gonna say nobody can say that I'm not afraid of a little bit of work
Like if you if you knew anything about my life like hey, I'll say this and it's the same for Chris
Even putting on a podcast every week. You can't be afraid of work
Like even what we do here. This is just a side thing that we do right and it's fun for us and whatnot
But it's still work like and it's still a lot. It's still a lot of work and even though we're in a groove
You know, it's still it still takes our time each week. So
You know, there's things like that and
um, you know, there's things like that and but at the same time
Never really been afraid of that hard work and I know you haven't either
I think uh two going back to where you were kind of sharing about
Like having the issue with lying. I think that was number one probably your upbringing
Just because of the people that you were around but also too
You were putting a lot of situations where if you told the truth it wasn't good enough
So you just told had to tell people like what they needed to hear to kind of get out of it
um, but I think also too like with your
Gift and again, I'm not trying to go pastoral
But Micah has a very like he kind of can tell things and read things and know
When things are going to happen before they happen. And so when Micah is very like, hey like
This is not right or there's something off about this person like
99% of the time he's usually pretty right
And so I know that can be kind of frustrating when you tell people hey
We need to do this or hey something's off about this person. I'm telling you I'm telling you I'm telling you
And then people don't listen to you. So I know that's that's hard
You know, probably a hundred times worse when you actually see
It is frustrating when it's like everybody likes this person
But there's something off about them and I don't know what it is
But it's like a hundred times worse when you know what's off about them
But nobody else sees it or they choose not to see it. I think that's the frustrating part too
And then because what you can see
Happening is okay. You could tell who they are you could tell by okay
What's happening you could tell what's coming down the road, right?
And you're going all I see is pain and anguish coming down the road for these people and that's hard
But tell me tell me if you're uh, if I'm wrong
But one thing I have found is similar to like hey, there's something off about this person
I don't know exactly what it is and then I I'm like, oh man
Like I'm just being judgmental and then what six months down the road
There something does end up being wrong with them. You're like, no
What I should have trusted that gut feeling the whole time because I was right like have you ever had that happen?
Oh, yeah, and it's like a major character thing too. Like it'll be a major character thing
It won't be something small like it's never something super small. It'd be something like ooh, that's pretty bad
um
Yeah, that that's happened quite a bit and then I don't know the other thing too is um, I don't know if you've had this
But I've had people
I don't know how much you feel about you know magnetism and whatnot, but
Really people repel from you like I guess they're too similar or whatnot
But like have you ever had these people to where you've never met them before?
But you just look at them you can look at them and go
So that person and myself would not get along and like from the bat like I don't know why those people always have
bad energy around you and like
Or automatically don't like you or something and I don't know I'm able to peg that of like
I don't know why but that person doesn't like me even though we've never spoken before
It's like I could already tell we're not going to be able to get along
Like I could tell that it's so funny because whenever me and Micah are like hanging out together
I think it's like that gift of discernment double because we'll both like we ain't even gotta say nothing
But like we'll see something pop off or something
And like we'll just look at each other and then after we'll be like are you thinking what I'm thinking and he'll be like
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking of like something's off about this person or I bet
I can tell that this person's situation is x y and he was like, dude
I was thinking the exact same thing and I'm like, yep
This why we're friends
It's like you could tell that stuff. I don't I don't know what it is. It's very it's very interesting
But that that stuff do be popping up. All right. You ready for this next question. Yeah, sorry
We kind of got a little deep there for a little bit
Just kicking it off. It's all good. That's all good
It's our show we can do whatever we want. All right, so um the next question
What if we had never met each other as friends like never met each other at all?
How do you think your life would have been for sure? I think I would have still remained in that
um
I wouldn't say sheltered but that shell that nerdy judgmental
um state and I don't I think I would have played it
Too safe all the time and again, I did play it safe a lot at in high school and middle school and growing up
But I really do think like I would have kind of fallen into that very judgmental
Um stay and I I don't think I would have been that well liked
Um because I mean you can attest to it. I was I was annoying. I was annoying as a kid that age
Um and if something I think you helped me grow out of that like dude just like loosen up bro
like it's okay to have fun um
And I without going too too deep into it like right before I met you as a friend like something traumatic had happened
um like probably a year or six months before and that kind of like
Thinking back on it that kind of caused me to shut down as a kid and kind of be in my shell
Kind of be that nerdy like hey, I'm just gonna put my nose in a book
Um this and that and so I think I would have and I was also really sensitive
Like really really sensitive at that age
And so dude, I'm telling you like I say this all the time
But like I truly think God gave you to me as a friend because like all the storms that
Like I've been through and I don't think I would have made it to be honest with you like I don't
I honestly don't know how I've made it through sometimes other than through a god and a wonderful support system
Well, it was one of those things man. It's like you a cool dude one of one of my good friends
Oh, mr. Adrian if you listen in what's up, dude?
um, he he said at Beth and it was
Dude, you're cool. You just need to figure out how to tap into that right?
And like it was the same thing. It's like nah, man. You cool and you know, I remember we
It was interesting because and I know we're divulging it to like early on into friendship kind of stuff
but I do remember that
You had a sense of humor, right? Like you had a good sense of humor, but you almost like felt bad about laughing
Right? It was almost one of those things where it's like you'd kind of laugh and it's like
Nah, bro. It's okay to laugh like it's it's cool that it's funny like it's funny to me, too
It was almost like a
You know, you almost had to be comfortable enough in the moment to be able to loosen up just to laugh kind of thing
it was I mean
You want to talk about rigid? You were pretty rigid
But at the same time all the good qualities were there. It was just like like you said once you got out of that shell
It was a lot. It's a lot better because once people get to know you
I mean again, most people like you. I mean 95 of people like you, but there's always that 5%
That's stupid. What about you first and foremost? I've thought about this before because it's very likely that this could have happened
There's you know, my father was in the military
Um, we got stationed to Augusta. It's very possible. We had like three other places
We could have went right like just that move. It's very possible that we might not have
You know gone
And so the fact that we moved there first of all was big but like, you know, I think about okay
If if we didn't and they were elsewhere hate to be dumb, but like honestly as I see it
I'm not sure how it's hard because it's like I'm not sure how my life would have went
I could see how yours would have probably I think you would have stayed in Augusta
I think you probably would have went to Augusta state or
Stayed around there. You know what I mean? Like I don't think you would have came out here
No, your side for myself
It's hard because meeting my wife changed a lot of things
But like without Chris, I don't know if like again kind of like you said
I wouldn't have made it through a lot of situations, right?
Because there's always been something that's great about our friendship if
One of us has gone through something or is going through something the other one has probably gone through it already
Or is currently going through it and it's like wait, I didn't know anybody else was oh great. You are too great
We could figure it out
And so that's always been good. I think what's hard is it's just like without that
I don't know what life would it look like. It's really hard
because
It was I mean constant for so long
I don't think it would have been nearly as good and I think that probably
Being that only child
I think that I probably would have not besieged deep friendships, right?
Like been cool with acquaintances because being a military kid
You kind of have that expectations people come and go right people come and go all the time
And so you don't have a real deep relationship
You enjoy them while they're around and then once they're gone they're gone
They're gone and that's probably how I've lived my life with a lot of friends wise, right?
Like it's cool while they're hanging out but because that's all of my other friends have been
It's just like yeah, they were cool while they were around but you know now life is
Tickets course and we're in all in different places my question for you and again. I'm not trying to be like
Oh, I'm this boy Boy Scout same thing
Whatever, but do you think you would have maybe been more
Or susceptible to fall in with a rougher crowd or do you think? Oh, yeah, sure
Been like oh whoever I'm friends with where I'm friends with because that is one thing like
I noticed, you know
Like through our friendship like you always had that tendency to gravitate towards like
Not they weren't the horrible crowd, but they were definitely like
The troublemakers I would say and I think the hard part about that is it's because I always see the good in people
and a lot of times the troublemaker crowd I related to that because I got in trouble a lot at school too
And you know, I did a lot of that on my own and a lot of it's misunderstood stuff and like misplaced
You know what I mean? So it's like
But at the same time broken people are broken people sometimes and you don't know that as a kid, but I digress the thing is
I don't know man. I think that I probably would have
Um, I think there's a lot of influences that that helped me with this, but I definitely think that
Um, if certain things were to happen and you know, if our friendship didn't exist
I think that there probably would have been a higher possibility of me having been in prison at least once or twice
By this point in my life or having a kid or having a kid
I think mine. I think a lot of mine is like kid or legal activity
Like I think a lot of it would have been I don't know how to put it like I could I could see myself doing a lot of
things because there was a point in time where
Um, and I think it was the area we grew up in right and rap music and things like that
But I really wanted to do a lot of legal activity that sort of thing
It's like make your money on the street so you can buy businesses kind of thing. But again, that was the uh
I think that was kind of just the the time and what was being
Mainstreamed over to us. It's like if I would have continued on that path then you know, you know
Because one of one of my ideas at least back then I don't know if I even told you this but one of my ideas
And this was like eight nine years old was uh boosting cars like that's what I thought about doing was like
Yeah, all and this is dumb to think about now
But it's like all I need to do is just boost a few cars and I could turn them around on the black market
And I'll just that's how I'll make my money like I won't even need a job
All you have to do is just steal a few and it's like that's some dumb that's some dumb thinking
So, you know
If it would have continued like that. Yeah, I probably would have been in jail or prison one last thing on it
But the thing is you know
I had to go to church to hang out with you at least for a long time until you got a car
So it's one of those things it's like that's you know, that's a lot of what kept you going to church
Maybe want to go to church. So I guess in that sense. Yeah for sure
Well, though, I'm gonna switch gears a little bit and kind of ask more of a lighthearted question
And then we can get back to the to the nitty gritty, but
Would you rather?
be able to hold your breath as long as like infinitely in space or underwater
underwater
Probably really I'm surprised you didn't pick space. I thought you were gonna pick space for sure underwater is dope, man
I don't know. I don't know why like I really want to get all my scuba stuff
Like I really that's something that I've been thinking about here lately a lot and so
um, I don't know man the ocean's a very
Interesting place and I mean barring of course that you can survive temperatures things like that
man, there's all sorts of stuff like you can dive between tectonic plates and Iceland and
um, I mean underwater is a whole different
It's got its own eco ecosystems and all sorts of stuff, man. It's cool. I mean spaces would be awesome as well
It's just I don't know man right now
I guess I'm more on an ocean kick and you know how I feel about the water
But I think I would pick the same thing because I do want to like if you were to
explore the ocean and like the tropics and pretty places and all that stuff like it really is a whole
like beautiful world down there
So if I could hold my breath infinitely and be able to explore down there
I think that would be really really what what's interesting too is places you wouldn't think so but places like Alaska
If you look at their coast and like under the water and things like that. It's totally different as well
It's like tropical, but in a different way because it's cold. It's where it's weird
um, so I'd want to see all that but
Yeah, for sure. Um
All right, so it's funny that you went to a would you rather question because my next question is a would you rather question?
So would you rather have an extra hour free time every day or would you rather have an extra day off every week?
Extra day off every week
But then again
Yeah, you want that I have to like is it like hey like you literally cannot work on this day
I mean, I would say so. Yeah. Yeah, I would want an extra day off during the week. I promise you I would
if I could work, uh
Three 12s or 10 4s or whatever or 4 10s whatever 4 10 dude. I would I promise you I would rather work longer
less days didn't have to work like
Longer throughout the week. So um, because really and truly that hour free time
I mean, you're not gonna feel it. You're not gonna feel it
But you feel the extra day off. I'll tell you that much and so the I feel the same way
Um, bro, I had a 4 10 schedule. That was the best schedule
I ever had in my entire life and especially because my
Two of my days like one day off was a weekend day and then the other two were weekdays
I don't know why bro. Like I hated working weekends
But back in those days I used to love being off weekdays because nobody else was on this is of course pre covid when
Now everybody's out and about no matter what day it is. It's like back in the day
It's like if you had a weekday off. It's like ain't nobody out. Are you gonna be the only one?
Pretty much everywhere. It's great. Exactly. If I could work Thursday Friday Saturday or have Friday Saturday sunday up
dude
Yeah, game changer
Absolutely. I'm there with you man. I'm there with you. Well, deal. All right. I have another question
It's also a would you rather would because I know you would not want to go back and relive elementary school
Would you rather relive middle school or relive high school? That's that's hard
I really didn't like either one of them
either, but I know this sounds dumb
The only really thing that I'm like, yeah, it's
probably for the football aspect of it and
Probably middle school and that was because I was bigger than everybody else by like double. So it made it
Uh, it was fun playing football and then it was also interesting getting yelled at by parents on the other side saying show us his birth certificate
He's a grown man
kind of stuff
so
Like back then that used to like embarrass me, but you know, of course if I if you go back with your mind's eye now
I would just that stuff is funny. It's like, I don't know why that stuff would just be funny is messed to me now
I think I would do middle school because again high school was kind of
High school was rough for me. Like it it just really was
um
a rough time
Um, but I think middle school because you still don't have that many responsibilities now
It you know, it sucks that you can't drive
But I feel like middle school like you don't take anything too serious
like you're still trying to figure things out and like
Middle school wasn't horrible for me. I know I did bigger academically in middle school
Like I got better grades in middle school than I did in high school. Believe it or not. It was also better for that as well
All right, so this one's a little bit of a deep question here. What is a recent challenge that you faced?
Uh, that you wish you would have handled differently and what did you learn from it?
So is there a situation that you experienced here lately that you're like, man, I should have handled this a little differently
Or learned a lesson differently from it. Probably I think it would just be
uh
Hang in I'm trying to think
Um
I think there were some things like in this this these past
I don't know probably through the summer was kind of a transition period for me with with my old boss leaving and me taking the reins
And so I think there was a lot of things where I was like, hey, we should do this. We should do this. We should do this
Um, and I wish I would have like done that sooner because like it was kind of like, hey like
I didn't have the power to do it. Um
So I think maybe just fighting harder for those things and being like, hey, this would this is a potential
Uh roadblock or this is going to be a potential problem. I was right about that like
Two years ago, but I wish I would have fought harder for it because I'm seeing the uh
repercussions of that now
um
But I don't know. I think I've I've learned to handle conflict
Like
somewhat better
I feel like I have because you know me I used to just pop off from the hip
Or I would just be passive aggressive and not deal with it all at all. And so I think I've found that balance
I would like to think I have but again, I don't always get it right
Um, and I I'll be the first one to admit to you. I don't always get it right
And of course now that you said that it you're gonna be tested about it. So, oh, please
Please not. I was tested yesterday. You already know I was tested and I don't want to get tested again
I get what you're saying. What about you? I'm gonna say by joke one first
Trust no one. No, I'm joking. No, it's I think for me. It's you know
Again, it's kind of what you were talking about earlier when you were talking about gift of discernment and kind of
Seeing what's around corners and trusting your gut
Like, you know, one of my biggest problems that I have is
The majority of time when my gut tells me something
Or this is what's coming down the pipeline or this is what's happening or prepared for this
It's for a good reason. Like there's never there's never been a time where it's like, oh, that didn't come, you know
that that wasn't
You know, you you prepared for that for nothing. Normally, that's not what happens and so
But there's too many times kind of like Chris is saying to where I push past and go. No, no, no
That can't be what's happening. That can't be what's happening and then I get to the moment
It's like I somewhat prepared but not all the way because I didn't 100% trust my gut, you know
And so I think for me there's there was a situation not too long ago or it's like my gut was telling me
Hey, this is what's going on and
um, I didn't exactly do it and
You know, I was kind of half in half out and what ended up happening is um
Pretty much
If you don't nip certain situations in the bud it festers a little bit and not like it's a big problem
But at the same time now I'm having to take care of an even bigger problem
Than before
Because it didn't stand up for certain things. You know what I mean? So it's
I think that's my biggest thing is trust your gut and when you see something coming down the pipe react
You know what you're talking about and even if I was wrong, you know, I should have just trusted my gut on it
but
I think that's the biggest thing and that's kind of a repeat one for me. I don't know. It's hard in life because
You know when your gut's screaming at you to do something
Um, but all the other signs are showing you other things, you know, it's it's a little tough to say. Yeah, let's do it
You know, it's like, uh
I don't know at least for me. It's my next question is there and again
You don't you don't have to work in the industry that they're working
But is there like a celebrity or just someone that you would either like
Think would be really cool to work for
Or to work with the one that I've always wanted and I think as good as mark cuban
I think he'd be cool to work with like I think he'd be cool
Like he'll make sure you get results and things like that
But at the same time, I think it's just demanding excellence out of people and I but I think you'd be a really cool guy and he seems
Pretty understanding about things like a lot of his world views a lot of his sports views
um are more common man than
A billionaires views, you know what I mean? So I think he'd be cool to work. I'm thinking I would like to work with cat
Williams
I think he would be great to work with
Yeah, I don't know. I feel like he
he
Has a high standard of how things should be done
But he's also like cool. You know what I mean? Like he will
Uh, I also think of course dinzel
Uh, I he just has a wealth of wisdom that I feel like
I just want to tap into like I just want to hear his opinions on
Things in the world and all that good stuff. Uh
I don't know. Maybe I want to work with triple h
That'd be great. He seems like he'd be a good boss. Yeah, that's the only people I have now. Here's the question
Would you um, I don't know what capacity it would be in but they were just like, okay
You're gonna work with the undertaker in some capacity like script writing or like not in a wrestling capacity
But like maybe back in something
Would you work would you like but he's your boss or like he was over you would you what would you think?
Yeah, I think he'd be cool. I also do think he would have a high level of expectation and I think if you didn't like
Get it right. He would kind of push you to get it right and be like no
We're doing like he would have a high level of
Wanting quality and standards, but I think he'd be cool to work with on the cool though
I really think ryan reynolds would be funny to work with he seems like a pretty cool guy
Um outside of
You know his professional self there
Um, all right, so this next one this next one's kind of interesting. Um, I think we've all played this game of
Kill screw mary is what we'll call it
Um, I I've come up with my own version of this. It's called closed casual and committed and it's talking about restaurants
So the first one obviously
The restaurant you would close the second one you would visit casually
So like I'm not eating there all the time, but I'd eat there sometimes and then committed
It's like I'm eating there every like pretty much all the time for the rest of my life
Ready and you know since you love to give me ones that like I hate
I'm giving you some that you hate burger king taco bell or windies
Burger king taco bell and windies. I'm closing taco bell. Okay closing taco bell
casually visiting burger king and committed to win because windies I I don't actually I don't mind windies to be honest with you
Yeah, you don't mind. Okay. I thought for some reason I thought you didn't quite like windies, but maybe I was somebody
I'm not I'm not crazy about windies, but I I
I don't mind it either that makes all right, so we'd close taco bell. I think that's the same for me
Um, except I would close taco bell. I think I would casual windies and I would commit it to burger king
I do burger king a little bit over windies, but burger king has gone downhill for sure
But I just I'm not a huge fan of windies either. So what's my next question or what's your next question for me?
What's a story from your life that you love to tell like you like I could tell this story all the time
Oh god, uh, there's a lot of those. Well, I'm not blanking right now. I don't know
I feel like a lot of my stories come over up organically in conversation. Um
That's why it's hard
What about yourself? Do you have one up top of your head? You know, I always shared the uh, the sneaking into the movie story
Um, I shared the pepper pepper spray story. That was one that I was thinking about
I was like, I do share that one quite a bit. I share the xlex brownie story quite a bit
You know surprisingly enough as much as it's my favorite story. I don't share it that often the camping trip story
I don't really that is it, you know, this is why we're friends. That's exactly what I was thinking
I was about to say that I don't share that story a lot, but that's actually one of my favorite stories
I don't know why I like that one. It's it was fun. What what is I feel like there's got to be another one
That's like, yeah, oh, I like telling the graniteville story. Like that one's probably one of my
More I think that was more like a favorite not in a funny favorite
But more than an intriguing like what what was going on, you know, I mean like it still gives me that feeling of like
What was going on even though we'll never we'll never know we'll never find out so next question here
Would you rather win 10 million dollars today and get it in a lump sum or have a guaranteed income of 100,000
dollars a year for the rest of your life?
um the smart thing would be is to get the guaranteed income of 100,000 dollars a year
for the rest of my life
But to be honest just with
Everything going on. I I just want 10 mil right now
So I'm taking the 10 mil well and for me
I'm as long as you get to keep your job and everything else
I would take the 10 mil, you know, go ahead and buy a house buy
Probably some new car you're like buy new cars stuff like that and try to stick the rest of the bank
And if you invest it well, right or you invest some of it well
Then I feel like you can get the rest of your income out of it for the rest of your life
Anyways, you know with the 10 million you wouldn't take a vacation though. Oh, yeah, I would I would take immediately like
Yeah, no, no, no, I would I would take that's what I was gonna take a good vacation like because the thing is if you have 10 million dollars
um
You know, I've never taken a 15 grand vacation
But guess what you can and 15 grand's a drop of a hat you have to be careful thinking like that
But if you do one, you know a really nice 15 grand
Could you imagine having 15 grand for a vacation like I'm gonna drop 15 20 grand on this next vacation
Well, then where are you gonna go on your vacation if you're spending that kind of money? What are you gonna do?
Shoot, I don't know man. You know what? I do know I'd go to Bora Bora
I'd go over to it to hit I've always wanted to go to Tahiti go out there in the middle of the ocean in the Pacific and
Fish for a few days. That's what I would do either take a very long cruise
I don't know if I could be at sea that long or I'm going to Orlando
Universal Studios and getting the top tier of everything
If I'm spending that much, you know, it's interesting
It's like, oh, yeah, if we spent that much money, but truth be told with you know, just because
And I mean we could we could share it. We've both been pretty broke in our lives whether it's been
Children wise like when we were kids or even as adults. We've had our broke moments where we didn't have any money
And so for me, I don't know even if it's like, okay, you have 15 to 20 grand
Like I don't know if I would spin all that like what all would I spin that on maybe I'm more simple than that
but it's like
Even because think about it even if you go eat fancy meals every day, which I would not want to do right?
Could you imagine Fogo like every day? I wouldn't want to do that like that would
I wouldn't want to like rich food like that that costs a lot of money to me
It's good, but not all the stinking time. And so I feel like
I don't know. I don't feel like I would spend it all because I feel like I would be like man
What because what else would you do? I mean, yeah, I would go to like museums
But that's like 50 a person to get in right at most and just between me and you
I feel like I don't belong in those places anyway
Like those places like give me a good steakhouse
Maybe like kind of a nicer or like a
Like I'm going to the brazilian steakhouse, but that's that's about as high class as I'm getting like I'm sorry
No, it's no. I feel you and with the hotel too. Like I don't to me
I don't really care that much about how like I'm not going to stay in a flea bag motel
But I'm also not going to stay in a five-star hotel either like the hotel is not as
Because I'm like it's just a bed for me to sleep in I could be wrong now
If it's a resort like the place isn't all inclusive resort. That's different. It's different
But at the same time most hotels it doesn't matter what I mean, of course like you're talking about the flea bag motels
Uh are a little different, but really the mid-range to higher end hotels
It really just depends on the name like most of the time the rumor is exactly the same
You get the same bed. You get the same bathroom. You get the same setup everywhere you go
It's just what name is on the outside of the hotel depends on the price and location in town, right?
and so I don't know it's
That's a whole thing, but no I could I could definitely see that but I don't know
I've always wanted to go to fiji to do one of those
I don't know if you've seen in one of those floating tiki huts that like you you're over the water pretty much
And it is one of those a lot of those are all inclusive resorts to where they you know
Bring the food to you and stuff and you can just finish off your back porch and just hang out sounds great
But they're extremely expensive. It's like 10 grand for the week. It's it's like extremely expensive. So if you were to be
in
as a character in
A tv show like you don't have to be
Like one of the main characters or anything you just have to be in that world
Which tv show do you really want to be a like a part of for some reason my mind says family guy
I really don't know why but it's like I would like to be a character in like where would I fit in?
I have no clue, but then again, it's like where else would you be? It's like king of the hill
It's like well, you're already in there. It's bobby hill. It was you as a kid
I think we we've talked about this but you wouldn't want to be part of the office world
Just be an extra like in the office now. Let me ask you this
We're gonna I'll match your question with the question
Yes, as long as it's like
The consequences aren't real right like as but if it's like, okay
Say michael doesn't get in trouble say these other people don't get in trouble
But maybe like you're the one that's potentially getting downsized or maybe their actions are screwing with you
I would not enjoy that. You know what I mean? Like that's not something I would enjoy
But if it's like all fun loving like it is on the show and like, you know, yeah, it's being downsized
But you know, it's not the full cast and like
You know, whatever and you're not getting in trouble for their buffoonery then. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah
I remember a couple episodes ago
We asked the question if you could be in any fictional world what fictional world would you want to be in?
And I totally thought about this and I think I changed my answer
But I think I would want to be in the red dead world like with Arthur Morgan and all that stuff
Like I I think I'd be okay being Arthur Morgan. Like yeah, I'm gonna die
But like and I have to deal with idiots, but I wouldn't mind being in that world
Yeah, are you talking more the aspect to be able to go camp hunt fish?
like gamble
I don't know kind of do all that open world like
You have money no responsibility kind of feel to it. You mean? Yeah, I think I just want to be like Arthur Morgan's best friend
but
Like yeah, I know he's gonna die, but I don't want to have to deal with the idiots in the gang
I don't want to have to deal with dutch bill all of those guys
But I do want to just hang out with Arthur and like we'll be buddies like
Causing trouble in the other towns. Yeah going to Valentine and shooting
like
Also, if it was a red dead world where you can shoot up the place and then get shot
And then you can come back to life and it actually doesn't matter because the shopkeepers come back to life too and everything
It's just screwing around. Yeah, absolutely. All right. So you're ready for the next one closed casual and committed
Now these are places. I know that you you like or I know that you are pretty pretty decent on Texas Roadhouse
Cracker barrel a red Robin. So who you gonna close casual or commit to it's a cracker barrel the one here. Love it
No, it doesn't have to be it's a it's a good one say it's the one on i20 in
Augusta the one that was you said Texas Roadhouse red Robin. Oh, I'm closing cracker barrel
unfortunately casually committing
Casually going to red Robin and committing to Texas Road out Texas Roadhouse. Yeah
I figured that was going to be the answer but see I would probably I'd probably do the same except I'd flip it
I'd probably casual Texas Roadhouse and I would do red Robin as my as my committed you. Oh you you like red Robin that much
Yeah, I like red Robin a good bit. They I mean they make a pretty dang good burger
I'll say that now. Is it one of those things to where it's like?
So, you know me I don't go out too much anymore
But they are one of the few like sit-down restaurants that I do go to
Quite regularly. I would say it's on my high end. Mine is kind of weird
Is there a superhero?
In the whatever DC mark whatever is there a superhero that you just like I don't like this
This guy or girl. I just I don't get it. I have beef with this with this hero captain Marvel
Like who the hell is that that's Shazam dog Shazam. Oh captain marvel the girl or like the or the guy
No, like the the guy like the guy. Yeah, I think that's Shazam with the white uniform
You know I'm talking about let me let me research this
Marvel and Shazam the same. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
No, no, they're different. Sorry my bad. Yeah, I didn't know who captain marvel was
Who the heck is that guy?
That's what I'm saying. Who is this guy and the only reason that I say that is and it all goes back to
Mortal Kombat versus DC universe. He was in that game and he sucked like he was like the worst character on there captain marvel
And still to this day. I'm like, who is that guy? Like it's like, who the heck is that guy?
You know who might surprise you ask me who my favorite superhero is
Is and always has who is your super favorite superhero?
My favorite superhero is the flash
Believe it or not. Why why the flash though? I don't know when I was a kid. I watched cartoon like I used to watch
justice league like the cartoon that would come on
and
I don't know why flash was always my favorite character
But it was mainly just because it's like man
Wouldn't it be cool to have the ability to be able to run like all around the world in an instant?
Pretty much or like run wherever you wanted in an instant
Um, and of course being the little kid that was really into football. I was like, could you imagine being the flash and playing football?
And I don't know like that's the whole reason I like the flash
And now that I got older it's like, I mean, he's okay
But I guess he's still technically my favorite superhero because I don't really have a so would you rather be able to speak every language?
Fluently select every language in the world fluently or be able to communicate with animals
That's a hard one probably to speak every language in the world fluently. You know me bro like like
animals, I ain't about animals like that
And you know what we talking animals like that. Yeah, like I want to be all up to every animal like that
Like I like dogs cats like the normal ones people like see that's why you see that's why you got a friend like me
It's like you take one. I'll take the other you talk to
Everybody else. I'll talk to the animals. It's like if it comes to it where we got to talk to the animals
I'll talk to the animals you could talk to whoever due to the tower of babble
We ain't got to worry about all that
Another question. What is like the funniest moment or maybe memory that you have that we have had as friends
I don't know why and this is again. This is like the one that pops off the top of my head and nobody no
No
Listener is gonna understand what I'm saying
But when we were sitting in Jackson, Mississippi at that catfish restaurant and you did the Rick impression
Like I don't know why that was so funny
Like that was a I did an impression of a guy that we used to know and what's bad is he kind of had a lazy guy
And I did he did it perfect
Perfect and it was a one and done
I don't think I could ever do the impression of that guy ever again, but I guess I just hit it
Right, he looked he looked just like him and it was just one of those impressions
Sometimes you could hit impressions just dead on and then sometimes nah, man. I was falling out of my chair
It was so good
It was I don't know why but whenever you whenever you asked me that question
That was the first thing that came to mind. It's one of the funniest moments. I don't know
I also think about um, we've had we've had some funny moments on some camping trips
That's why I love about camping too is like sitting around the fire and then
That's where some of our funniest crap be coming out where we would just be talking mess and I don't know
Some of that stuff is funny. Oh, yeah, just making jokes
About things and yeah, I was thinking about that. I I also thought about
uh, when we were in wendy's and uh
We've we shared about this guy before he was one of the guys that helped us cook with the homeless ministry
His name was steve and he was like balding and he'd always say hey, how are you doing brother?
Well, Micah
It just came out of left field
But Micah did the impression of him and he pulled his hair back
And like to pretend like he was balding just came up to me. He's like, hey, how are you doing brother?
And I fell out of my chair like laughing really really really hard. Um, and then
also probably too
This one was more recent when I came
Uh down to visit me and my wife did uh in march and we took the microphone and we hooked it up
To the preaching cords and we just started giving each other random topics to preach about and there was just some funny jokes
All I'm telling you this this man was talking we we did one about dog food
And he was like the alpo the kibbles and bits this man was
Oh, man, it was it was great. Uh, just like we do on the improv segment. We were doing that in real life. Um, just just to each other and so
anyways
Where does where does me impersonating your dad fall in the rankings there? Oh, yeah, I forgot about that
That was that's probably in top five for sure. I almost killed him with that one like my joke almost killed
I did an impersonation of his dad. Uh, we we saw his dad on the highway and uh, his dad was um
quite grumpy after work
And he like merged two lanes to get off the highway once he saw us and so I did an impression of him and um
This was in our nostriking days and chris had just taken a sip for some reason
I'm really good at telling jokes right when people take a sip like that has not changed. I still do that all the time
I don't understand why and
Bro, he almost I think you had to pull over didn't you because you almost choke
How do you think our friendship has shaped your approach to other relationships in your life? Oh, man
That's kind of a hard question. Uh
I don't I I guess maybe it's like the litmus test like hey, is this person really my friend or does this person like
are they just trying to like
Use me. I don't know like our friendship has just taught me like what a true friend is
Um, and so I think when I'm like, oh, yeah, this person just wanted something or
you know, even
Like going back to when like you helped me through the divorce and everything like hey
You would point out hey, this isn't normal behaviors in someone that says they care about you and so like it helped me kind of
Like spot gaslighting pretty quick. Uh
Not saying that micah gaslighted me, but he helped me through
That time and we both have
Gone through similar instances with people that have gaslighted us
So then like it helps me recognize it a little bit easier, but I don't know you just kind of say hey like
Does this person really care about you or is this person like what is a true friend?
um, and so like having a friendship with micah you definitely can say that's like uh
Like a true true friend
Um, and so that helps me with other friendships. I think it's definitely so
Let's be real. I was not a very nice person
Um when we first became friends, right? Like I didn't have a filter
Whatever was on the top of my mind. I said and not just that but
I was not very fair like I was very judgmental. I was also very
Um, I didn't understand people's positions. I didn't have a lot of compassion for people
And I feel like a lot of those things helped me or you helped me change a lot of those things
Uh, especially early on
You know kind of how you alluded to being sensitive as a as a kid. Yeah, you were a little bit
But what that helped me was is because
I hurt your feelings
Quite a few times, right? But it showed me
Okay, how to have compassion for people and it helped
You know by us talking through it and things like that it helped me understand. Hey
This is why this hurts people and maybe what I'm saying is it you know, I think it's okay
But maybe it's not okay to them, right?
And I feel like a lot of those things if I didn't have you through a lot of those earlier times
Man, I probably would have been a jerk for quite a while if we're if we're being real
so
It's like there was a lot of things I could definitely say that it was like
there was a lot of things
Um having compassion for other people or really feeling for other people
You know like feeling what other people are going through because even though we would talk mess about some situations and things like that
a lot of times
Again, would you be an accountable even when you were a kid?
You were like that if I would say something that was maybe out of pocket or something that wasn't very that wasn't true
Or maybe wasn't fair of a person or like man, they're going through something and you're talking mess
You would tell me you'd be like man, that's funny, but that's messed up
Like they're they're going through some stuff and you shouldn't be saying stuff like that is like I get what you're saying, but you know
It's not like that and I don't know that stuff helped me out a lot. What is a tradition?
Uh that we have that like you appreciate. I don't know if we have like a lot of traditions
But is there any traditions we have or like anything where you're like a like
Or I would like to make this a tradition one that I would if we can get the time and the finances and things like that
I do want to make a yearly trip to to watch a major league baseball game
You know, we did it the once where we went to the rangers game and I'm not saying the rangers
You know if it is the rangers every year great
But like I'm opening up to the entire mlb because I would you know if it's Houston fantastic
If it's else, you know, heck if we go to Colorado and see a Rockies game, I don't care
Right like as long as we you know do a yearly thing where
We go catch a baseball game. That would be cool. I mean even if it's a minor league game like when y'all come down here and we go to a minor league
I don't care like I don't know. I enjoy going to baseball games with Chris. That's for sure
So it's like if we can make that a tradition. I'd be down with yeah or going to uh
A different six flags, right like different six flags. I would I hope that would be a tradition
I hope that would be a tradition for sure. That'd be cool. I've got another one. I'll top my head if you want to
um, okay, this one's a little interesting
um, so if
The other person so if you or if I had to solve a world problem, right?
And but it was only me that had to solve the problem. I had to solve the problem alone
What problem would you say I would be best at solving? So like a massive world problem?
I don't know. You know it could be
whatever
What would you say like oh man, he's best suited for solving this world problem. I would say probably
something along the lines with care for the elderly
probably
whether that's
some kind I don't know whether that's like insurance or
I I don't know like something maybe on the healthcare side because the healthcare sector is
Is screwed up. Well, and I and I think you kind of already
I don't I wouldn't say this is a world problem, but this is
kind of a problem you're you're helping with
Helping elderly people understand technology and helping them with their technological needs
Um, so I don't know if that's a world problem, but that is I feel like a problem
Um, but yeah, no something to do with elderly care. I think
Uh, if that's healthcare if that's like how to
help
with transition from
Living on your own to I don't know just family dynamics. I don't know but as far as like oh solving world hunger or
Like COVID or I don't know dude. Like I don't I don't know if me or you could solve any of those problems
You know asking myself and that that was just something that came off top of my head, but maybe it's not a world problem, but maybe you know
Because a lot of the problems that I think about is maybe a society problem here in the United States
um, like something I think you'd be fantastic at if if
is
Fixing our education system. Like I know that might not be something that you've ever thought about but at the same time
you're very
Um, you're the you know, you're you're good at whatever you'd want to do
But I feel like you'd be perfect for that
Because there's standards and everything else that you have to follow
Most of our education system does not follow the standards like best practice standards, right?
And that's where a lot of it's gone wrong
Is our curriculums all messed up and then of course the actual system itself
Between private school public school everything like that
Chris is one of those kind of guys
If you tell him to read the book and
Say, okay, we need to go buy the book
I have no doubt in my mind that that system would go buy the book
It would take a while
But you know what I mean? Like you'd make it fall into line like it should or at least in best best practice
That's a massive problem though. I don't think I could solve that one. Oh, it's massive and it would be a lot
but I you know
Even if you didn't solve it
I think you could contribute to the success of it and I'm not saying like quit your job and do that
But I don't know why but whenever
in my mind that's
I think one of the areas you could do really well at and you know also having the background of a children's past a role
um, I mean that's
You already have a background in early childhood education
In that facet already, you know what I mean? So it's it's easily translatable. I feel like all right last question
I don't know if there is one, but is there a milestone that we've achieved together that you're like proud of?
or
I don't I'm trying to think about like milestones that we've like neither one of us have like
We didn't do like the traditional for your graduate college to me. It's this podcast like I know I know
That sounds cheesy, but man, it's like
How many other people do you know in your life right now who?
um
Are on season three episode 30 we're on 39 right or 40 and so
How many people do you know that we're pushing four seasons right how many how many people and we've
Done it consistently each week for all those weeks over 150, you know
So or getting close to 150
Weeks in a row so to me that's a big accomplishment. That's a big accomplishment and milestones. Yeah, I would say the podcast is a bit
Yeah, I would say probably even just like our friendship together
How it's weathered the storm I would probably say also too the fact that both of us are doing
Uh decent I I mean we we both have pretty
decent jobs and we're married to wonderful women and you know, we're we're
We're doing all right like we're making it, you know, and we're uh,
We're living, you know, I wouldn't say well off but again, we're all of our bills are paid and
Needs are met. I don't know. I feel like we're progressing through life
pretty well
Or at least as well as we can. Um, so I think that is what I'm proud of
Uh, just the fact of hey like
We've we made it, you know, I think if 16 year old us would see ourselves now
I think they would be proud uh just kind of of how we've grown and how we have
Adapted and even just to because you know, you always have those people you look at and be like, oh, yeah
You're stuck in the 80s or you're stuck in the 90s and there's part of me that's like, oh, yeah
Like I'm nostalgic for the early 2000s like I missed that time
But I feel like we've adapted and tried to you know, stay current and we're not like looking back at the past
We're constantly focusing on the now and looking ahead to the future
What we're really trying to do is we trying to rain in because every era before us
We've been before our time and been doing stuff that uh, nobody been thinking about doing and then all of a sudden it becomes a thing
10 years later
It's like we trying to rain it in to where we right on the cutting edge, you know, I mean for sure
but I I will and I will say like
Thankfully, you know us moving to Texas. I think helped that but also, you know those people that like they peaked in high school
And you're like, oh, bro. That was like, oh pack when I was playing football
Like that's the one thing I appreciate you is like you you do talk about your football days
But it's like yeah, well when I was playing football those were the glory days and this and then it's like
Okay, or the college is the glory days for them and I'm like, uh
Okay, bro. And for me, it's like it was fun
But it like it's like but if you told me like right now like yeah, you could go back to that heck no, bro
I don't want to go back to that
I wouldn't want to go back to that. It's like I'm
I enjoyed the freedom in my life right now and what I can do, you know, I mean
It's it's nice being able to like Chris said something that's a blessing and a half and again
I think it goes back to uh, what I was alluding to before and how we've been
Broke his kids and we've been broke as adults
Um, I don't know. It's still nice like I got groceries yesterday and I don't know why it's always great
When you open up that fridge and you see it full like it never gets old
I don't know why like when I was a kid it didn't mean that much
But like now that I'm an adult it means all that much more when you open up that fridge and you see it full
It's like, oh man, it's great, bro. I'm telling you and I told you this yesterday
But I think the glory days are ahead of us, bro. They're coming up. So that's that's why we had to
We had that we just been waiting all the other people that had their glory days. It's our time now
Yeah, it's our time now. Keep pushing you can go back to high school. I'll be wishing I'll be you're gonna be wishing you have
Our lives here in a bit. Well on that note, uh, thanks for listening to the podcast
Tell them where they can check out all the things at the trash can network at the trash can network over on
Facebook Instagram all that good jazz and on youtube and then we also got the aviator society over on instagram as well
Over at the trash can network over on youtube. We got some very interesting videos
All I'm saying is did you know we started something new called trash can nature? Did you know that? Why? Yes?
I did know that. Oh, well, great. I'm glad you know that
In case the people didn't know that we have something called trash can nature and guess what it talks about all the nature
Fun, there was just even a video about sloths
And how they have micro ecosystems in their fur. So go check that out pretty much man. That's pretty much all I got
Let's let the starship take us out. All right, and my good and I'm crazy. This has been the don't know box podcast
It's just another Sunday