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What is one item that you hate spending money on now that you're an adult?

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Uh, that's a hard one.

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Um, I hate spending money on everything.

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I used to think that, you know, things that came in the mail were so great,

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then you come to find out they're mostly bills,

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and now I can't stand the mail and I can't stand paying bills.

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Have you ever paid a, I'm gonna have a follow-up question that,

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I know that kinda wasn't an answer to your question, but follow-up question.

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Have you ever paid a bill by mail?

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No, I've never paid a bill by mail because I don't trust that it's gonna get there.

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Yeah, me neither. Same.

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One thing I hate spending money on is oil changes and haircuts.

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And Catlett, I hate spending money on that.

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I'm a go-in on oil changes. That thing is a racket, you know.

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My thing is, yeah, it seems like it's good and whatever,

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but the cheaper you go, the cheaper the oil, right?

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And then I've had it before, if you've ever changed your own oil,

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there's a bolt that you have to undo, right, to get the oil to come out of the oil pan.

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I've seen them put like, Loctite or Super Glue on there

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to where only air guns or like, the really high-powered guns can get that off.

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And so basically it forces you to take it back.

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Have you ever had that happen too?

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No, I've never had them do that,

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but I do know that they are trying to get you to do that.

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But what that oil change place will do is be like,

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oh yeah, $29.99 oil change, and then they'll try to upsell you

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or be like, oh, you need to replace that.

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You need to replace your windshield wipers.

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You need to replace. It's like, you know what?

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We can do this and that. You really need a fluid flush as what you need.

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I hate spending money on that.

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Well, I'm Chris. And I'm Micah.

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And this is the Donut Box Podcast.

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I almost said I'm Micah in the intro.

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You know, it is what it is, man. It is what it is.

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But hey, I'm Micah and this is the Donut Box Podcast.

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We are doing a free flow episode, a fireside chat, if you will.

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What are we, FDI?

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That's a, that's a, that is a triggering word for me.

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And I'll go into that.

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What? Fireside chat?

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Fireside chat, yes. That is a triggering word for me.

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No, no, no. First interview question.

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What, why is fireside chat a, I'm legitimately curious now.

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We could continue the intro some other time. What's going on?

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What's, what's going on with fireside chat?

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It has to do with a particular reasoning that I cannot get into and I'll go off the record and I'll get into it later,

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but I'm not going on the record of why that's.

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But you know what? We're in a free flow episode and here lately,

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what we've been doing with these free flow episodes,

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we just been interviewing each other and seeing what crazy things and what we think about life,

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what we think about things, you know, and see where it goes.

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So Chris, we got a few things to ask each other.

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What, do you want to start or do you want me to start?

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Yeah, I got a couple of questions for you, right?

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So kind of asking Mike about who he is and all that.

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So I know you maybe have kind of brought it up in other episodes,

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but who was your childhood hero?

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My childhood hero.

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Now, when it comes to football, because that's what my mind has been on,

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because I don't know if you heard the NFL preseason game was tonight.

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I didn't watch it because it's a bunch of third stringers out there fighting for their jobs.

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And it's kind of hard to watch.

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But hey, you know, when we're talking about football, believe it or not,

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I really like looked up to Peyton Manning.

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Like that was the guy. I don't know.

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To be honest, now that I'm an adult, I'm kind of not sure because it wasn't,

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I mean, his stats were really good, but at the same time,

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I guess it was because like the way he talked, the way, I don't know.

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It was just one of those things where it's like, yeah,

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I want to like grow up, be a quarterback throw, throw like him.

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Troy Aikman was another one as a kid, of course, Dallas.

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Was it just the way that he carried himself?

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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

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I mean, think about the two that I just said, Troy Aikman and Peyton Manning.

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They kind of have that, I don't know, that typical like true blue American, like,

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I mean, it's what every little kid dreams to grow up and do and play in a Super Bowl and stuff like that.

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Like, I don't know. I think that's what it is.

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they're really good at what they do. They can really throw a ball well.

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Why else did I look up to them besides, you know, like, ooh, fame and fortune

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and throwing a ball around?

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Did you have any other non-football people that you looked up to?

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I don't know if I necessarily looked up to them, but I kind of like,

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would you consider falling their career closely, like looking up to them or like kind of,

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fall their career closely. Does that count?

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I don't think so, but you could still expand on that.

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There was like this tornado expert that I followed for a bit.

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the Weather Channel was one and it was, I don't even remember the guy's name,

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but I remember like watching a bunch of stuff, like throughout his career until he retired

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about like tornadoes and that's where I learned most of the stuff about tornadoes.

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Just found it pretty fascinating, but like a lot of the stuff that he did,

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he was one of these guys that tried to make those like tornado vehicles that like drive into tornado.

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You know what I'm talking about?

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Yeah. I know what you're talking about.

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Sorry. Quick question. Have you seen the new movie Twisters?

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Is that your kind of movie or not really?

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I heard, so I actually thought about going and seeing it, but I read a lot about it.

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And apparently, you know, it's mostly a love story, not a lot about weather chasing.

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Like if it was, I'm weird, man. I'm a nerd.

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If it was mostly about the weather chasing and like how to do it,

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like almost get sucked up by a tornado is the drama.

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That's great when I'm sure there is some of that, but like love story intermixed, I'm out.

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Like I'm kind of dry when it comes to that sort of thing.

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Just give me the weather action there.

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And if it's a love story, like make it like a side deal, not make it the whole thing.

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Cause apparently a lot of what the draw was was the guy, like the ladies love the guy in the movie.

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It's a lot of the draw.

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but you got to have something to drive it along.

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But see, that's, that's the thing.

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Maybe this is where I'm weird, but like I can be entertained by something without the side stories as weird as that is.

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You're, you're one of those people that enjoys storm chasing.

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And I feel like you would really get into that if you have more time and more money, get into that as a hot.

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That's, that's something else that's going to come this next year is I'm going to try it and tornado season, April, May timeframe.

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Like I do want to take, I'm going to take a week off and I'm going to try to see if I can see one.

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I've never, I've never seen a, like I've seen one in real life, but not ever like touchdown.

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Like it was trying to touch down, but never did.

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I want to, I want to see one.

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Like I'm talking like one out in the field.

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Like I'm not talking like really close.

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I'm not that crazy, but I do want to see one.

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But anyways, I could definitely get into it.

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I love that you love that.

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What did the kids say nowadays?

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Listen, I just love that for you.

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Yeah, I love that for you.

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All right, man, you ready for, we went off on several tangents there.

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I don't know if I ever answered your original question, but hey,

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Yeah, you answered my question.

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Okay, cool.

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You ready for me to ask my first question?

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What is the most ridiculous thing you believed as a child?

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Oh, that's a really tough question.

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And I'm having a rifle through most ridiculous thing that I believe.

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And it doesn't have to be like the most ridiculous thing.

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Or if you just start remembering some ridiculous things that you thought about or believe.

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Kind of going back to the childhood hero thing, I really, really kind of put George W. Bush on a pedestal.

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And now looking back as an adult, I'm kind of like, why did I like that man so much?

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Yeah, you liked you some G Dub back in the day, man.

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I don't know, man.

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I'd have to come back to that question because I can't think of one off the top of my head.

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I can give you one.

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And this is kind of a small example for the longest time.

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I thought H&R Block was a haircut place.

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I did not think that that was a tax place.

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Oh, yeah.

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That was a really weird misconception.

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And you know what's odd about that one?

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I've actually talked to other people and you kind of referenced that and you know, kind of silly me as a kid and they go,

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you know what, I thought the same thing for a while until I found out it was a tax place.

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So I don't know if they had an ad or something at one point that talked about haircuts or maybe the color.

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You know, kind of how they had that like futuristic green design all the time with their logos.

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And kind of if you looked at it, especially in the early 2000s, it kind of had that, I don't know,

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it probably could be mistaken for a haircut place, but that was one of the weird things that I believed.

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Here was something else too.

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I can tell you another one of mine.

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I believed that like I wasn't going to finish high school.

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I thought that like between elementary and middle school that the rapture was going to happen at some point.

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And like I wasn't going to finish school.

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So a lot of what had happened whenever I was in school was I was kind of apathetic towards it in elementary and middle.

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And part of it was because I didn't even believe that I was going to finish it.

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Like I thought, oh, like the rapture is going to happen.

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We're at the end of the world anyways.

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Like why do I even need to, why do I need to even study?

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What was your favorite game or your favorite activity as a child?

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Game or activity as a child.

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Believe it or not, the game of life.

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I really like the game of life for some reason.

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Not even a game that a child would normally like.

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I don't know.

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Yeah, no, I would say that's a pretty normal game.

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Yeah, that's not weird.

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Yeah, I like the game of life because you know, of course it had a lot of money.

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I always liked, you know, getting to the end and counting all the money up.

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Monopoly was the same way.

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I just never really had anybody who played Monopoly.

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Like we didn't have Monopoly as the game.

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Like I only played it a few times like Friends House and whatnot.

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So I wouldn't say it was like great.

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Like a really nostalgic one for like kids, kids with shoots and ladders.

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Do you ever play shoots and ladders?

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Yeah, yeah, that's a frustrating game.

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Bro, it is a frustrating game.

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But if you, if you, you know, are lucky, it's, it's really good.

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And then what was the other one?

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Candyland.

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I played a lot of Candyland too.

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You've played that one.

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Who was always the bank?

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Not so like if you're talking, because I don't think Candyland, it was,

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Candyland wasn't like that.

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Banker for life.

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It was my parental unit, my paternal parental unit.

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And bro, he would always cheat.

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Like you would never know how much money he had.

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Do you ever play life with him?

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I'll tell you this much, bro.

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He was always the banker and he would like hide money under the board and

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things like that.

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So you'd never know how much money he had.

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And you never know if he's like slipping some off to the side,

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which I'm sure he was.

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So it's like, guess who would always win because he was also the banker

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and he would hide all this money.

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Probably reflects how he played that.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And then whenever I've played it kind of teenager and as an adult,

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I've, everybody chose me as the banker every time, which it's okay.

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I'd rather not be the banker to be honest.

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I'd just rather, I'd rather just play instead of having to divvy up all the

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cash and like always have to do something.

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But it's all good.

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How about you, man?

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I got a follow up.

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Was there like any board games or anything that you were big on?

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Clue was a big one that we played in our house.

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I would say Clue.

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And then probably my favorite activity.

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I really like baseball, man.

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Like I just always loved baseball.

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So baseball, like whether it was playing catch or just, I would actually,

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whenever this was kind of like my outlet, whenever I was angry, I would

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I would take my bike and I would take a bucket of baseballs and my bat.

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And I would go up to the middle school that was right behind my house.

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And I would just hit baseballs into a field.

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Like I would throw them up and of course hit them.

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And that was, that was my way of getting all of my inks out.

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I guess free batting cage.

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So it's not a big deal.

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It's like, yeah, you had to throw it for yourself, but it's free.

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So that's always cool.

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All right.

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This one is kind of an interesting one.

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If, if animals could talk, which one do you think would be the most annoying?

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Man.

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Oh, I feel like a zebra is kind of mean.

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Feel like hags would kind of get on my nerves.

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Dude, cats would be rude.

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Like we love cats now.

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We love cats now, but if they could talk, they would be straight up rude.

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I think.

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Honestly, and I'm not, I don't mean to say this, please don't crucify me.

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Dogs bro.

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Cause they talk a lot.

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They yap.

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I think it depends on what kind of small dogs, small dogs, small, like chihuahuas and things like that.

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Absolutely.

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Oh yeah.

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That would get annoying.

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Absolutely.

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I don't know why this one's really random, but I would, I feel like hippopotamus, like

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those guys, I don't know.

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Maybe I've seen too many nature documentaries, but those guys are, I want to use a few

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explicit words to describe hippopotamus is like from what I've seen on there.

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But anyways, that's kind of an interesting one.

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I got another question.

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This is getting a little bit more into your love for aviation and all that good stuff.

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Remember.

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Oh, okay.

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No, I'm just kidding.

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Don't keep, you can talk as long as you want.

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We might go down a rabbit hole here.

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If you could be a pilot or work in the aviation industry, what do you think you would do to

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improve that industry?

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That's really tough because a lot of it is broke.

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It's broken because of the way a lot of corporate America is broken.

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And what's hard about that is how do you tangibly make steps towards fixing that?

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What I mean by that is, and I don't want to get into this whole thing of like, and this

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is how our country is broken too.

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But if you look at it, there's the top 1%, right?

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And in a company, that's the C-suite or the upper, upper level management.

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And if you look at a lot of these airlines and you look at a lot of these things, a lot

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of them are struggling for money and they go through ebbs and flows.

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Sometimes it's great, sometimes it's bad, but most of the time it's, how do we make

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more money?

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But you look at the C-suite, you look at the executives and they're getting paid an exorbitant

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amount of money.

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And, you know, I'm not saying that these people, they're under a tremendous amount of stress,

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right?

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I'm not saying that they shouldn't be paid a ton, but you look at a lot of the spending

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habits, you look at a lot of the behaviors, and it's like a spending spree in the C-level,

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you know, I'm going to call it out.

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That's one of the biggest problems with Boeing right now.

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You look at what they're spending their money on, and it's not on their employees, it's

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not on safety, it's on themselves in the C-suite.

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And it's them and the upper-level, it's all about the money that they can make up top.

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And they've neglected a whole bunch to get there, including employee morale and safety.

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So it's, I think that's the biggest thing, but again, how do you tangibly start making

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steps towards that?

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Besides, I guess, working your way up to a position because there are unions out there,

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right?

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And each airline, pretty much, you know, they're all a part of, all the pilots are part of

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union.

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And so they fight with the airlines and just like any union does, right?

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And that's why sometimes you'll hear about pilot strikes and things like that, you know,

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it's always constant pay contracts.

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And, you know, there's even flight attendants right now that aren't getting paid, and they're

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striking and all this other good jazz with their union.

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You have a lot of those things happen, and I guess maybe get to the point where you're

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a high-level union rep or something that could make some sort of power to combat some of

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those, you know, things that the airlines are doing.

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But a lot of what's happening is, you know, unions are still, the government still has

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their hands in the unions, right?

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So it's, what's in the government's best interest is to have lots of planes flying.

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And so it's in their best interest to cut corners too.

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So it's really hard to say tangible steps, but I guess that's probably the best thing

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that you can do is get in and work your way all the way up and advocate if possible.

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Cool.

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I have one more follow-up question to that kind of, if you're a pilot, which airline

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are you going to fly for?

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Probably nowadays Delta.

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They treat their folks really, really well.

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15, 20 years ago, probably not.

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Used to be American was the premier guys to fly with or even Southwest, but that's changed.

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United's not very good.

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But yeah, Americans definitely changed.

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They have really low morale, like really low morale.

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I don't know.

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You can always tell a lot of this is from what I've heard internet-wise of pilots who

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are currently flying for these airlines.

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And then it's also what you see from flying with them.

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I don't know.

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You've flown American here.

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I think it was in the past year, right?

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It hasn't been a year yet.

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Being American, you can kind of get where, how they feel as employees.

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A lot of times they're not very nice flight attendants and gate agents and things like

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that flying on Delta.

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I've flown them, I think, the last four or five times and haven't had a bad experience

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with them at all.

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They've always, I mean, knock on wood, right?

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I mean, not jinx it, but they've been really, really good.

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And I think when your employees are happy, that shows kind of how they're being treated.

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I wouldn't want to move to Atlanta, but that's why I would just live here and ferry over

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there.

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All right.

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See, I was brief.

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That was pretty brief for me in aviation.

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That was pretty brief.

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I'm proud of you.

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Yeah, we're trying here.

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This one's a two-parter.

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When no one's watching, do you sometimes either break out a dance move or have a weird noise?

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So do you like some sort of weird yelp or something?

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You know what I'm talking about.

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Yeah, probably both.

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Yeah, probably both.

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But it's more of the dance move.

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Okay.

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Which in the second part of it is, which dance move are you breaking out when nobody's watching?

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I don't know, dude.

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I just kind of do my own thing, but more or less, it's not a noise, but I just break out

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into character.

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Okay.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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I get what you're saying.

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Like, hey, I'm workshopping this character.

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Like, I'm going to just break out into this character's voice.

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I'm going to be Kevin or I'm going to be Glenda the witch or whatever.

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Like, you just work in different characters and trying different voices or sometimes,

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like I've told you before, Ice Cube is the commentator in my head.

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So sometimes I'll just like, if no one's around, like I'll just commentate on like,

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what's going on out loud?

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There you go.

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That's right.

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No, I know.

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It is what it is.

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It is what it is.

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That's great though.

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That's great.

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What about you?

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So I'm definitely kind of both dance moves are kind of random.

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I'm not very good at dancing.

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So it's not, it doesn't happen too often, but like sometimes I'll do a little jig.

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And then as far as I don't know, bro, I feel like such a teenager sometimes like a 13,

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14 year old.

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I still do things that I did when I was 13, 14.

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Like I'll just be walking around the house and I'll be like, your mom's gay.

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I'll just be saying stuff like that.

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Or I don't know, what's another good example I'm trying to think.

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I don't know.

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It'll be just random stuff like that.

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Either that or it's just like, it's a boy.

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I'll just do stuff like that.

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I don't know.

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You just do, you just crack out some random stuff.

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Especially, so I've got of course a mirror in my bathroom and then I've got another

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mirror hanging up.

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And so sometimes when I pass that mirror, bro, and I see myself like I can't help but

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just crack something out.

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I totally get that.

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This is why we're friends.

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That when I see the mirror, that's the time to work on a character.

402
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Oh yeah.

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Oh, absolutely.

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See where do I want to go with this?

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Okay.

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What is your go to karaoke song?

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This is going to sound really, really, really weird, but I've only sung one.

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I've done karaoke twice and I've only sung one song and that was Hello, Darling by Conway

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Twitty.

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Is there a certain song that you would sing it on karaoke?

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Bro, no.

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So I have no confidence when it comes to singing.

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The only reason that they got me up there to sing karaoke in the first place, full disclosure,

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they fed me a few drinks first.

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That's the only reason that I was up there singing.

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But really and truly, I have no desire to sing any songs on karaoke.

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Mine is Family Tradition by Hank Williams.

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Oh, you do?

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Yeah.

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You know what?

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That's what I'm saying.

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Maybe, you know, you'd be singing Hank Williams.

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I'll be singing Conway.

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I don't know.

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It'd be an interesting time.

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All right.

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Let's see here.

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So we've kind of talked about this before, but what's the weirdest fashion trend that

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you tried per se?

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Yeah.

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I know a lot of your clothes came from me, but what would you say there was a fashion

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trend or like a style at one point that you were like trying out and it didn't work out?

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Man, I don't really know.

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Because me, you know me.

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I'm kind of like a pretty simple guy.

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I'm not really in a trendy or fashion trend.

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Let me ask you this.

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Let me reframe this.

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And this might get down kind of more nitty gritty and we might have to explain it a little

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bit more to our audience.

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Here's where I really saw you kind of have a little bit of a different style is when

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we started working at Boot Corral.

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Would you say that any of the styles, you know, we really didn't know a ton of style

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until we started working retail, right?

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Was there any style at Boot Corral that you were like, you know what, I'm going to try

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it out and maybe even a pair of boots or something because I had plenty of those experiences

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where you try something out and you're like, man, that absolutely does not work for my

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Western wear look.

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Not really.

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I think I just more kind of adapted like I did the best thing and the, you know, the

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Ariott shirts and because I couldn't wear a cinch because cinch shirts ran too big on

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me.

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But honestly, dude, probably, oh, I, I tried one of the kanga hats.

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Oh, you did?

455
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Oh, yeah.

456
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Yeah.

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I mean, it didn't look too bad, but I was just like, yeah, this is definitely not me.

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I tried like, and again, when I say me, there were other people that had me try these styles.

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Oh yeah, I'm sure.

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Like, like just the V-neck T-shirts.

461
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I wore those for a while.

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And those aren't really like my style.

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I mean, I've kind of found my style now is just like jeans and during the summer, during

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the summer, it's shorts and a wrestling T-shirt.

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And then during the winter, it's flannel and jeans and boots and a baseball cap.

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Like that's just my style.

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Telling you, we dress like dads without kids.

468
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I don't know what it is.

469
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Hey, it's comfortable.

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It's comfortable.

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That's the deal.

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That's the deal.

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I'll share one of mine from bootcrow in particular.

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So I tried, you know, those really, they're really, really popular at the time.

475
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:19,680
They were the patchwork boots, not the zombie patchwork boots, but just the regular patchwork

476
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:20,680
boots.

477
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:26,960
But they were the Arapaima and they like where the fish, I'll explain all this to the viewers.

478
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,440
Basically, it came in kind of like this diamond pattern.

479
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:37,680
I don't know if that's, it was kind of like how it wasn't just how the fish skin was,

480
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,840
but they kind of wove it into this diamond pattern.

481
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:46,800
And it was from this really big fish that comes from South America called Arapaima and

482
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,600
they make this boot out of it.

483
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:54,000
And I bought the first editions that came out, like they just had come out and nobody

484
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,880
had ever seen this kind of boot before.

485
00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:02,320
Like this was, but I remember the first ones that came out was kind of a lesser brand.

486
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:07,520
They weren't very, I wouldn't say they weren't reputable, but they were known for putting

487
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,440
out things that maybe aren't great quality wise.

488
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:19,320
And I remember wearing those and bro, it was the very first day that I wore them and one,

489
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,760
they did not look good.

490
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:27,600
And then they had the part of the interior ripped like on the very first day, it was

491
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,440
not good, but they just didn't look good on me, man.

492
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,920
There was some of those styles like that to where you would think like, oh man, that's

493
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:42,480
going to work out because you have other boots or other things that work with, and it just,

494
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,480
it just didn't work.

495
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,760
And you know, that was a big thing for when you're a salesman, you have to, of course,

496
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,640
you got to dress well to sell and so don't lie to them.

497
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,200
Tell them about when you used to wear them.

498
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,200
Miss me jeans.

499
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,200
I'm just playing.

500
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,200
Oh yeah.

501
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:02,760
Bro, let's, let's talk about when I put the miss me shorts on and almost got fired.

502
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:03,760
We can talk about that.

503
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,760
Another question for you.

504
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:06,760
Bro.

505
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,880
And this is a two part question.

506
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:16,040
What lesson or lessons did you learn from your time while you were playing football?

507
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,840
I definitely learned a lot about teamwork.

508
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,600
I know that sounds, uh, it sounds whatever, but I mean, there was a lot about being a

509
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,920
team and then I learned a lot about, I don't know if this is the right word, but kind of

510
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,560
more discernment of who to listen to, if that makes sense.

511
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,480
You don't want to listen to everybody.

512
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,120
Everybody is not going to help your skills.

513
00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:42,520
They might think that they know what they're talking about, but it really helped me understand

514
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:47,200
who to look for and who to, you know, how you were talking about kind of role models

515
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:52,880
earlier, who to take as a role model and who to say, okay, I can listen to this person.

516
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,360
Their strategy is correct and that sort of thing.

517
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:56,920
Cause I don't know.

518
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:02,080
There was a few people out there that just were not very, they weren't very good.

519
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,080
Right.

520
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,440
And you kind of have to figure that stuff out.

521
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,320
The other thing that I learned a lot of is, uh, there's a dark side to football.

522
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,760
Like, and I, I hate to say that, but we'll get a little nitty gritty into it.

523
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,080
There's a dark side to it.

524
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,440
And I'm, I know a lot of it's tried to change and whatnot, but at least back when I played

525
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,840
like injuries, especially head injuries, things like that, it was encouraged.

526
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,480
Don't, don't say anything.

527
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,080
Like don't say anything.

528
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,440
And that was the, the big thing.

529
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,280
And if you did, you, I mean, that's how you lose your starting spot.

530
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,720
That's how you get ridiculed.

531
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:42,440
Like that's how that happens is if you, if you, you know, that's why they've tried to

532
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,960
do things now about like the blue, go over to the blue medical tent where a third party

533
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,920
can assess you and things like that.

534
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:49,920
Right.

535
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,200
That's where they're trying to pull that stuff in because again, a lot of these coaching

536
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,840
staffs, they'll look at it and be like, well, we need them.

537
00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:01,900
So, you know, and that, you know, a lot of the times they tried to ingrain it into you.

538
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:02,900
You want to be like a machine.

539
00:28:02,900 --> 00:28:06,520
It doesn't matter because you're going to be hurting all over the place, especially by

540
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:11,760
the end of the season or mid season, you're going to have injuries all over yourself.

541
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,640
Like most of them are minor.

542
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,480
Some could be, you know, you're having to play through it and it's week by week.

543
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,640
And that's what a lot of people don't talk about.

544
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:27,160
A lot of people don't talk about kind of that darker side of what people are pushed to do.

545
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,160
Yeah.

546
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,160
Yeah.

547
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,920
It's not that, yeah, it's not that extreme, but at the same time, it's definitely like

548
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,360
the varsity blues.

549
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:35,360
It's definitely there.

550
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:36,360
Right.

551
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:37,360
It's definitely there.

552
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:39,720
And it's definitely, like there's all sorts of stuff.

553
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,920
Like for instance, there was one kid, I'll never forget, like you see injuries all around

554
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,920
you, right?

555
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,600
But there are certain injuries that you see that make you think about your life and make

556
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,840
you think about what you're doing.

557
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,240
And that's something for somebody at that age.

558
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,240
Think about this.

559
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,320
You're 16, 17 years old.

560
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:04,640
Most of the time, I mean, heck, even when I was 19, 20, I felt invincible, 21, 22, right?

561
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:09,840
So normally when you're 16, you feel invincible until certain things happen.

562
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:15,520
And I remember playing next to this kid and I played offensive line at the time.

563
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:20,680
And so I was playing at the tackle position, which is the outside and there's a guard position,

564
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:21,920
which is inside of me.

565
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,560
So he's kind of to my right here.

566
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,640
Pretty much what happens on that front line for those of you who don't know, it's one

567
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,720
side is trying to block forward, one side is trying to get in.

568
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,440
So it's just a clash.

569
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,160
Like the moment that they say go, it is a clash in between there.

570
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,560
And so all sorts of stuff happens.

571
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,800
It's just a pile of bodies all in between there because there's five linemen and sometimes

572
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,600
five other linemen or four other linemen on the other side.

573
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,560
So you're thinking there's nine people all bunched up in that one bit.

574
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:56,440
And so what ended up happening was one kid got thrown, he got grabbed by the shoulder

575
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,880
pads and he got thrown into this other kid's leg.

576
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,840
And the other kid's knee, I mean, it snapped.

577
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,520
I mean, the whole thing just snapped.

578
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,320
I didn't see it happen.

579
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,960
Like I saw him go down in my peripheral, right?

580
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,120
But when the play was over, I saw him on the ground.

581
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,360
And it was one of those things to where he didn't realize what was going on until he

582
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,520
looked at his leg and he just started screaming.

583
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,920
It was pretty, it was pretty harsh.

584
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,760
And the thing that I'll never forget about that is not that experience, but the fact

585
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,280
that they said, move up 10 yards, we got to keep practicing.

586
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,240
There's this kid screaming on the ground in pain, right?

587
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,240
We're all worried about him.

588
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,160
Like, oh my gosh, he snapped his leg.

589
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,960
Like, because it was visibly out of place.

590
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,120
Like it was gross.

591
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,320
Like it was disgusting bad.

592
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,760
They're just like, move up 10 yards.

593
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,760
We got to keep going.

594
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:46,760
Can't stop.

595
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,080
It just, it's that feeling of, oh my gosh, that could be me laying on the ground and

596
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,400
they wouldn't care that move up practice 10 yards.

597
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,440
We can go way into depth on that.

598
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,680
I don't know.

599
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,680
But anyways, onto happier notes.

600
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:05,960
If there was only, we've talked about this before, but if there was only one food that

601
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,120
you could eat for the rest of your life, like one food, the entire rest of your life, it

602
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,200
doesn't necessarily have to be a restaurant.

603
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,560
It could be a flavor of food, but what are you doing?

604
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,600
And if you say Chick-fil-A, my God.

605
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,520
No, American food, pizza, probably.

606
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,400
Burgers, I could eat burgers all the time.

607
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,480
You just, you're just good on American fare.

608
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,120
How are you with like seafood and fish?

609
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,360
Like would you, would you have like fish for life?

610
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,360
Oh yeah.

611
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,360
I mean, I don't know.

612
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,360
I like fish.

613
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,520
I like shrimp more than like fish.

614
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,280
Like fish is all right, but I don't think I could eat fish all the time.

615
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,920
You don't think you eat fish all the time?

616
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,920
I could probably do both.

617
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:40,920
I could probably do fish, shrimp.

618
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:41,920
I don't know.

619
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,880
Here's, here's another one.

620
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,080
Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

621
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,880
I think I could do those forever.

622
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:48,880
I don't know.

623
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:49,880
Oh, no, thank you.

624
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,920
Well, you're not big on PB and J. Fine for like a couple meals, but every day.

625
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,960
That's the only thing I know.

626
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:57,960
Just can't do it.

627
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:58,960
No, thank you.

628
00:31:58,960 --> 00:31:59,960
I understand.

629
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:03,520
Is one thing that you're hoping you'll be remembered?

630
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:04,520
Making people laugh.

631
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,120
Like I'm hoping that, or I guess more making people joyful, right?

632
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,000
Like I don't want to be just the funny guy, but at the same time, I want to leave a legacy

633
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:20,280
of, you know, he was always fun to talk to, you know, always had that awesome aura about

634
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,280
him.

635
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,280
If that makes sense.

636
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,280
You know what I mean?

637
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:28,920
There's, there's people that you know in your life and that you talk to and, and, you know,

638
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,440
may have a relationship with, whether it's, you know, kind of an acquaintance level or

639
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:38,400
a friend level or even more in depth, they end up, they give you that kind of, I don't

640
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,400
know how to describe it.

641
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,400
You know what I'm saying?

642
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,200
Probably what I would want to be remembered for, and I'm given the typical past or answer.

643
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,200
Okay.

644
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:52,960
So that I, that I love Jesus and I loved other people and that I was authentic about it.

645
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:59,520
Like I was just real and authentic and I genuinely loved people for who they are, regardless

646
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,680
of their mistakes, regardless of what they did.

647
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:09,960
But I always talked about Jesus and love Jesus and love people very well.

648
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,560
And that's one thing that I want to be remembered.

649
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,600
What is the most embarrassing thing that has happened to you in public?

650
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:22,240
Oh, I think I've shared the, this a couple of times, but I'll share, well, I'll share

651
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,240
the most recent one.

652
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,920
Not a whole bunch of people saw it, but I kind of fell off the stage during baby dedication

653
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:30,920
Sunday.

654
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,600
I, what, I didn't fall.

655
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,320
I was kind of pushed.

656
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,080
So during the baby dedication, there was like 12 families.

657
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:43,600
So the stage was pretty crowded and get up there.

658
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,880
And of course the kids are all wiggly and they got the wiggles and the pastor's wife's

659
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,400
praying, well, the whole time while she's talking and even before she starts praying,

660
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,880
there's one little girl who keeps getting away from her mom and she's like running towards

661
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,680
the edge of the stage.

662
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,800
And so like each time the mom comes and grabs her and I'm like, oh, like, I gotta be watching

663
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:03,880
for this kid.

664
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:09,080
So the pastor's wife is praying and this kid like gets away from her mom and she's like

665
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,360
bolting towards the edge of the stage.

666
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:16,360
So I'm like running kind of like to catch her before she goes and me and another dad

667
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,080
are going at the same time.

668
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,400
And we kind of like, there wasn't enough room on the stage.

669
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,480
So I kind of got forced off the stage.

670
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,360
So that was kind of embarrassing.

671
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:29,520
But also too, I accidentally, well, I was a waiter.

672
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:35,160
I accidentally spilled orange juice on this lady's white pants just because I was clumsy.

673
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,160
Oh, yeah.

674
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,680
That was pretty embarrassing.

675
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,920
This is the first time I think I've shared this story on the podcast.

676
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,080
My most embarrassing public story.

677
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:54,040
I was a senior in high school and I got asked by my parental unit to dress up as an alien

678
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,600
for some event at his work.

679
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,600
Oh, yeah.

680
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,400
I forgot about this.

681
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:05,400
So it was like a, and this was like a, one of those skin tight alien body suits.

682
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:11,480
If you know what I'm talking about, like the, like the, like tight type.

683
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,040
And so I got asked to do this.

684
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,880
And so for me, I was like, yeah, I'll get out of school and like, you know, dad's going

685
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,080
to get me out of school.

686
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,600
It's going to be great.

687
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,720
And so I ended up going to the hospital and it was for like their senior leadership and

688
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:31,480
like executive people, like the senior level executive for the high, for the, for the whole

689
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:36,840
hospital and whatnot, along with, you know, the heads of nursing and all these other people.

690
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:42,400
And so I get dressed and I didn't notice it at the time.

691
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:50,880
And I think I was young and naive, but we didn't prepare any bottoms for this at all.

692
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,520
And so I was quite exposed.

693
00:35:54,520 --> 00:36:00,240
And so my parental unit in his good judgment said, Oh no, it's fine.

694
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:04,160
Like we, you can't even notice like nobody'll even notice.

695
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,040
You didn't even put no shorts on underneath or nothing.

696
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,040
Okay.

697
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,640
I had boxes on underneath, but it did not help at all.

698
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,640
Like it did not help.

699
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,560
Anyway, it was that it was tight.

700
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,720
Like it was so skin tight.

701
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:19,400
Anyways, so I walked in there, bro.

702
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:24,840
And I kid you not, like everybody was, it was like giggling, like little kids, like,

703
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,280
thank God this like covered my face, right?

704
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,280
For the most part.

705
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,560
And so, but I mean, they took me everywhere.

706
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,840
They took me to the children's wing and like I saw children, bro.

707
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,840
Yes.

708
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,120
And they were like, they're like, they're like, Oh, it would be great to, you know,

709
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,120
whatever.

710
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,800
And I just, I didn't realize why everybody was like laughing at the freaking time.

711
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,760
So a few years later, right?

712
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,800
Like I, all that goes away.

713
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,360
A few years later, I go to work for the same hospital, bro.

714
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,480
Somebody sent those pictures around in an email.

715
00:36:54,480 --> 00:37:00,320
I was, I was mortified because after looking at the pictures, I was like, Oh my God.

716
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,600
It was pretty bad.

717
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,280
Like it was really bad.

718
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,440
So there you go.

719
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,960
The time that everybody saw my junk at the hospital.

720
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:08,960
Okay.

721
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,480
Uh, moving on.

722
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,440
Um, is there a culture different from your own?

723
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,800
I've got a few ends of the spectrum here.

724
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,720
So the answer is yes.

725
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:25,640
Scandinavian culture is very interesting, like Norway, Sweden, Finland.

726
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,800
They're all very different up there, like in a good way.

727
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,880
But you got to think these are, this is like the land of the Vikings, but at the same time,

728
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,800
they're all very, uh, tolerant and they're known for kind of being a little more demure

729
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,600
and whatnot.

730
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,240
But then they do things like, um, they'll leave their babies outside in the cold, like

731
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:44,960
just leave them out there for a little bit.

732
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,400
And it's like, Oh, it's good for them.

733
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,320
You know, they'll leave them bundled up and everything, but it's just, if you walk by

734
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,360
and there's a baby stroller out in the middle of the road or not in the middle of the road,

735
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,360
but in the middle of the sidewalk, it's not a big deal.

736
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,480
I mean, that's what they do.

737
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,920
It's just kind of interesting on that front.

738
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:07,120
And then on the other opposite end, not that I want to go or anything, but, um, I find,

739
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,960
uh, North Korea to be really fascinating in that society.

740
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,440
Kermit Kingdom, we've talked about this a little bit more in depth in previous episodes,

741
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,680
but it's just really interesting to me.

742
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,720
And the main question that I'm always trying to figure out, are they that brainwashed or

743
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:25,520
are they just that much in fear to where they have to go along with it?

744
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,320
Or is it a combination of both?

745
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,320
Where is it?

746
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:34,560
And I know that's different person to person, but, um, one of the very interesting things

747
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:40,080
is watching the interviews of people who have made it out and them talking about what their

748
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,480
day to day lives were.

749
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,240
It's similar, but it's different.

750
00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:46,200
And it's just, it's interesting to hear that sort of thing.

751
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,760
Their society really fascinates me because it's, it runs so much differently.

752
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,760
But again, it's nothing that I want to, it's like, oh yeah, let me go to her.

753
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,440
You know, they're allowing more Americans to go in now and more Canadians.

754
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,760
And I'm like, yeah, y'all are, y'all are crazy.

755
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,760
I wouldn't want to do that.

756
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:08,880
I think the, uh, Israeli culture obviously is very fascinating.

757
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,000
I also think the Australian culture is really fascinating.

758
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,320
I want to see, I want to hang out with them, dude.

759
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,240
See what, see what it's like, bro.

760
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:17,520
See what they're, they're doing.

761
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,520
Dude, Australians are cool, but they're, they're pretty crazy.

762
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:22,800
For me, they have to be.

763
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,720
Because I mean, think about it, like all the deadliest stuff in the world is all around

764
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:28,920
you, even in the oceans.

765
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,920
It's like, you know, everything is trying to kill you.

766
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,120
So you kind of have to be a little crazy to hang around.

767
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,440
But yeah, they all seem like pretty cool people.

768
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,040
They all seem like pretty cool.

769
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,360
I've never met an Australian who's not like, who's a mean person.

770
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,920
Like they've all seen nice and fun loving, wild, but nice and fun loving.

771
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,920
All right.

772
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:49,920
How many more do we want to do?

773
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,920
We can keep going.

774
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,440
I'd say probably two or three more.

775
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:59,280
If there was one celebrity that you could swap lives with for the day, who would it

776
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,960
be and what would you do?

777
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:07,440
Cody Rhodes, obviously, just so I could be the WWE champ.

778
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,440
You know what?

779
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,520
I'm going to correct that.

780
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:15,080
I'm going to be Hulk Hogan so I can go around and apologize for all the lies that I've pulled

781
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,320
over the years and just write the record, write the wrongs.

782
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:24,320
That's what I'm going to do because that man, that man is you're going to be Chelsea

783
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,320
Sullenberger.

784
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,320
That's who you're going to be.

785
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,320
No, you know who I'm going to be.

786
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,280
I'm going to be James Brown for the day and I'm going to, doesn't matter.

787
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:38,600
He's coming back to life for the day and it's going to be me and put on a crazy sweaty performance.

788
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,800
Believe it or not, that's actually one person that I would have wanted to see a performance

789
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:48,280
by because it's interesting to watch him do his thing.

790
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,400
That's one thing you're really proud of or one moment in your life that you're really

791
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:53,400
proud of.

792
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:59,160
I passed a really, really hard IT certification test a few years ago and that was a really

793
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:06,720
big highlight of my life because I had taken a lesser test three times and I had failed

794
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:11,960
it and ended up taking this one and passing it.

795
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,840
I've always had some sort of trouble.

796
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,480
I've never been formally diagnosed with anything, but I've always had a lot of trouble with

797
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:23,720
studying being focused on things.

798
00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:28,320
Studying for something that was that hard, accomplishing it and passing it as well as

799
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:33,120
I did, that felt really good because I've always had bad test taking skills.

800
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,040
I feel like it's not necessarily like I didn't know the material, but I feel like some people

801
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,200
just are bad at tests.

802
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,200
That's true.

803
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,200
That's very true.

804
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,800
They just struggle with tests and it doesn't mean they're dumb or stupid.

805
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,360
They just have a hard time with tests.

806
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,760
For me, I can tell you on my end what a lot of it is.

807
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,880
For me in tests, I get in there and I overthink it.

808
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:01,960
A lot of the times, I'm always trying to look for the hidden, where are they trying to trip

809
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:02,960
you up in this?

810
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,320
A lot of times what ends up happening, things are trying to be straightforward, then you

811
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,840
answer some questions and you're going, why did I answer that?

812
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:12,840
That was pretty easy.

813
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,560
It was a pretty softball question, but you overthink it.

814
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:20,000
There's a lot of things that I'll overthink, either that or a lot of trends.

815
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:26,520
A lot of the trend, what would end up happening was the first 20 minutes of a test, I would

816
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,040
overthink the mess out of the questions.

817
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:34,120
Then I would find myself in a time crunch the rest of the time, which then left me susceptible

818
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:39,160
to reading the questions too fast and then missing things in between and then answering

819
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,800
the questions wrong because now I'm rushing because I don't have the time anymore.

820
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,000
I've seen that a lot.

821
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,840
Obviously, because I've identified, I've been able to work on it, but it's just, sometimes

822
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,840
it's hard.

823
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:52,840
Sometimes it's hard.

824
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:53,840
Pull it, get that.

825
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:54,840
How about you?

826
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,920
Do you have a moment where you're like, yeah, I did a real good.

827
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:04,680
Yeah, probably kind of same as you when I got my ordination.

828
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,360
Nowadays you could just go online and pay 50 bucks to get ordained, but I did all the

829
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,360
classes.

830
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,240
I got my reference letters.

831
00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:13,760
It was a notable achievement for me.

832
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:18,200
I would say definitely this year at Easter.

833
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,280
That was something I was really proud of.

834
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:28,040
Our church building is smaller than the Easter attendance that we were going to have and

835
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,520
we were going to have to have six services.

836
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:35,920
We decided to run out our local performing arts center and they were like, hey, you're

837
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:41,400
going to have to come up with a children's program all on your own and plan it.

838
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,040
That's where I got to be really creative and plan it.

839
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:49,360
Then I wrote the script and then Mike got to come on and be my co-host.

840
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,000
If you want to hear the rest of the story, you can listen to it.

841
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,400
If you want to hear the rest of the story, you can listen next week on the Dona Bucks

842
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:57,400
podcast.

843
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,400
Oh, I was like, are we pleased?

844
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,200
You don't want me to share that whole story?

845
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,720
I was like, listen, we could share it next week.

846
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:04,200
That could be our... To that.

847
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:10,040
It was a time where I just felt like I was in my groove and I was doing what I was made

848
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,800
to do and doing what I loved and I had so much fun doing it.

849
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,920
I got to do it with my best friend.

850
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:21,960
That's what I was really proud of, that I not only got to do this, but I planned it and

851
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,320
prepped it and organized it and I worked really hard on it.

852
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,480
It was, I would say, successful.

853
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,960
Oh, it was wildly successful, I would say, despite some of the obstacles that tried to

854
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:33,960
come up.

855
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,560
But again, next week on the Dona Bucks podcast, if you can master any skill or talent, what

856
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:39,560
would you pick?

857
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,360
Because I'm not that great of a cook.

858
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,640
My wife will be the first one to tell you that.

859
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,960
I'm probably cooking just because... Yeah, that is true.

860
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,920
Every time we go camping, I'm the camp cook.

861
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:52,920
Yeah.

862
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:53,920
I mean, I'm not great at it.

863
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:54,920
I'm really not.

864
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,120
You do not want me cooking food for you.

865
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,000
I'm not great at it.

866
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:04,040
I think also too, just being able to... And this is common with this older generation.

867
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,080
They just see something and they're like, oh, I can build you that.

868
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:12,000
And I'm like, I have the idea in my mind of what I want this to look like.

869
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:17,160
But as far as executing it, I don't know how to build what I'm envisioning.

870
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:30,840
For myself, I think a lot of it would be... I'd want to be able to make music.

871
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:37,040
I have a musical ear as far as I enjoy it, but as far as being good at it, I could probably

872
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:42,320
get good at it, but I'm just not very good at music.

873
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,080
I'm just not very good at lyrics.

874
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:49,960
I'm not very good at... Again, I think it's if you honed your craft in.

875
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,440
Some people are just music prodigies.

876
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:56,440
I have an uncle who... You could play him a tune on the piano or you can play him a

877
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,840
tune on the guitar and he could mimic the tune.

878
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:05,400
He can't read chute music, but he's just got that musical ear.

879
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:06,800
Some people have that.

880
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,000
I absolutely do not.

881
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,440
I have whatever the opposite of that is.

882
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:17,320
And so if I could master music... Because I would love to be able to... Again, kind

883
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,480
of like what Chris was saying.

884
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:25,320
Musically, I have these ideas in my head of if I were to make a song, I would like to

885
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:30,760
make it like this, or if I was making this same song, here's how I would do it differently,

886
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,240
things like that, but I have zero idea of how I can execute that.

887
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:38,680
Again, I'm sure that you can refine that and figure it out, but that's a lot of time

888
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:39,960
that I don't have right now.

889
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,200
So if I could wing a magic wand and make it happen, that'd be cool, but it's all good.

890
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,200
I got you.

891
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,200
All right.

892
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,200
I got two more questions left.

893
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,040
We've kind of talked about this a little bit.

894
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:56,120
We've alluded to it over our podcast tenure, but if you could have a do-over in life, what

895
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,360
would you change or do differently?

896
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:05,000
So one, when I was coming out to Texas, I think I talked about this before, but I had

897
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,720
the chance to be a fullback as a position, and I was like, nah, I don't want to do that.

898
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:12,640
And I was like, one of my favorite NFL players of all time was Mike Allston.

899
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,720
I was like, I could have been Mike Allston on that team, and I had the opportunity to

900
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:17,720
do so.

901
00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:20,600
And they picked some other schmuck, and it's like, I probably could have done better than

902
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:21,600
it.

903
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,920
So if I could have done that a little differently, that would have been cool, because it would

904
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,360
have been my senior year, and I wonder how that would have turned out.

905
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,640
But at the same time, it is what it is.

906
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,480
And then I think kind of what we were talking about before, I don't know if I necessarily

907
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,120
would have went to Tech or would have went to college, but if I could have skipped a

908
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,920
certain relationship back in the day, and the same would have happened with you, and

909
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:51,240
just like had an apartment and spent early 20 or late teens, early 20s, just kind of

910
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:55,280
hanging out, chilling, and doing whatever you want for a little bit, because I know

911
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,280
both of us were pretty locked down and had a lot of responsibility for that age.

912
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,280
Oh, yeah.

913
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:06,680
And that was kind of one thing that I would want to do over just enjoy being a 20-year-old,

914
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,680
18, 19, 20-year-old.

915
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,160
And we talked about that.

916
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,000
Obviously, the obvious one not being that relationship.

917
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:19,600
But going back earlier, I don't think in high school, if I wasn't so hung up on one particular

918
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:26,280
person, I feel like that would have given me more opportunities to kind of like, I don't

919
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,920
know, like go out with different girls.

920
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,800
And I don't know.

921
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:32,800
You know what I mean?

922
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,120
No, I get that.

923
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,120
I get that.

924
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,080
I feel like that broke out a lot when we went out to Texas, though, because of me.

925
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,080
Oh, yeah.

926
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,520
But then I like got hung up on another girl.

927
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:45,520
Yeah.

928
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:46,520
And I guess I was pretty quick.

929
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,600
I was like, I'm gonna go for another locked in for another eight years.

930
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:57,320
So didn't really get a chance to like explore who Christopher was and be free and have fun.

931
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,320
All that stuff.

932
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,160
I probably would have lightened up more and been more fun.

933
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,480
That's my thing is I think I would just, and the other thing is I wouldn't have taken

934
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:11,480
things, situations, and people so seriously, especially some jobs and some of these bosses

935
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:12,480
that I took seriously.

936
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:17,840
And it was like, oh my gosh, I should really, you know, make sure I cleaned up my acronym.

937
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,920
You know, it's probably not good, but you know, it's like, if I could have gone back

938
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:25,320
and I whatever, bro, I'm just going to do my job and collect my check.

939
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,320
Yeah.

940
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,160
Like I definitely had a different attitude.

941
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,880
We were both raised to be so like, Hey, like you want to give your best at this job.

942
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,680
And, you know, and at that age, you like, you're like, Oh, like, I don't want to make

943
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,400
the boss mad because I don't want to lose this job.

944
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,840
So my next one, what is the most ridiculous thing you've ever done on a dare?

945
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,640
And I think I know where you're going with this.

946
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,400
And I think we might have talked about it last week, but what do you, what do you think?

947
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:54,040
And what I don't know specifically on a dare, I don't know.

948
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:59,520
For me is the NOS experience because I think that was on a dare or like, Oh yeah, I can

949
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,680
I considered a dare because it was like, I bet you won't kind of thing.

950
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,200
Anything like that is a dare to me.

951
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,800
Like, Oh, you dare me to.

952
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,880
I mean, definitely drinking different stuff or eating different stuff.

953
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:16,280
I mean, I can't think of one specifically where I would just like, Oh, I'm going to

954
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:22,760
do this because, you know, they dared me to do it, but I'm not sure.

955
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,560
Oh, the pepper spray thing.

956
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,600
Getting pepper spray in the face.

957
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:27,680
That was kind of a dare.

958
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,320
I felt like, Oh, it was.

959
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,240
Yeah, for sure.

960
00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:32,960
Would you say that I dared you to do that?

961
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,120
Or who, who is the one?

962
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,040
I think I kind of dared myself.

963
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,040
I don't know.

964
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,560
We probably dared each other.

965
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:40,880
I don't know.

966
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,440
You know how we were at that age.

967
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,040
We were just kind of hyping each other out.

968
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,960
It was just like, listen, I bet you won't like you spray me and I'll spray you.

969
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:52,640
Yeah, I just remember it being one of those things and telling you, well, you're going

970
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:57,880
to have to get sprayed anyways at the Academy might as well go through it now to figure

971
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:58,880
figure what it's like.

972
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,880
That's why I was like, Yeah, you're right.

973
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,880
I might as well.

974
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:07,000
I might as well spray, get sprayed.

975
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,000
It's great.

976
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,000
One last question.

977
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,000
Okay.

978
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:16,520
We've talked about what advice would you give to your teenage self, but you being your age

979
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,440
now, what advice would you give to teenage Christopher?

980
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:21,440
Oh, okay.

981
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,600
At that age, what advice would you give?

982
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,040
First one was if and when we moved to Texas, because the hard part is you feel like if

983
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:34,240
you're giving advice and you give like glimpses into the future, things might change.

984
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:38,440
But I think that's the, if the paradox doesn't work like that and everything still goes the

985
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:43,080
normal path, it's like, when you see, oh girl, let me first get the Lubbock.

986
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,280
That ain't the one.

987
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,280
Trust me.

988
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,280
Trust me.

989
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:50,200
And it's going to, it's going to, you and Micah's friendship go capoe for a little bit.

990
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,840
Now it's going to be all right.

991
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,840
But at the same time, you don't want to have that happen.

992
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,640
The other thing that I would say is you're too timid.

993
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,080
You got to get out there a little bit more.

994
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,000
Like it's like, not in a bad way.

995
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,920
Like you're, you're, you're a cool guy.

996
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,280
Like you, you don't, you limit yourself so much.

997
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,160
And that's what I would tell them is just like, you're a cool dude.

998
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,600
A lot of people would love you just for the way that you are.

999
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,840
And you know, don't limit yourself, get yourself out there.

1000
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,920
And you know, the first way is to try to be more comfortable with yourself because you

1001
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,640
were very uncomfortable with yourself.

1002
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,760
A lot of, especially teenage years, you weren't really comfortable.

1003
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,080
I'm still uncomfortable with myself sometimes.

1004
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,080
Me too, man.

1005
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,080
Me too.

1006
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,680
And it's a lot easier said than done.

1007
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,120
But I think, you know, back then you were, you were quiet.

1008
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,080
I wouldn't say rigid, but it was definitely like, rigid and timid.

1009
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,760
Rigid and timid.

1010
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,760
And so, and so it was just one of those things to where it's like, I think I would tell you

1011
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:54,400
that and, you know, cause like you were saying, if you were able to open yourself up at that

1012
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:59,320
time a lot more, man, I think it would have been, you know, there would have been a lot

1013
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,400
of cool experiences instead of being tied down, you know?

1014
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,400
Yeah.

1015
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,320
No, I agree with you 100% and you hit all the nails on the head.

1016
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:13,040
I mean, I was rigid and timid and I think going back to like me just not being comfortable

1017
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,040
with myself.

1018
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,720
That's why I kind of like didn't open up.

1019
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:21,480
So like people didn't really get to know like the real me when I was in high school.

1020
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,560
Like you knew the real me.

1021
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:24,560
But not a lot of people did.

1022
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:25,560
Right.

1023
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:30,520
But the only time you would, yeah, the only time you would really open up is if you, you

1024
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,400
had to be really comfortable with the situation.

1025
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,800
Like you had to be really comfortable with the situation because even things that we

1026
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:42,800
did week to week, like church, there was even some settings, most settings within church

1027
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,240
that you wouldn't even show your true self.

1028
00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:47,000
Like most of the time you wouldn't.

1029
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:52,760
It would only be if like we were at church and we were in a room with like you, me and

1030
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:57,040
one or two other people that we know that you can, I guess, let your guard down or let

1031
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,040
your true self out.

1032
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:02,400
But most of the time you really wouldn't show yourself out even then with people you knew

1033
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,400
all the time.

1034
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,840
I'm still that way a little bit.

1035
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,920
Not as bad as it used to be, but I can still get that way a little bit.

1036
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,920
And yeah, I completely understand.

1037
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:12,920
How about you for me?

1038
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:13,920
I got to hear this.

1039
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:14,920
Oh, are you ready bro?

1040
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:15,920
Are you ready?

1041
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:16,920
Yeah, bro.

1042
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:17,920
Do it.

1043
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:22,360
I'm going to just, the first thing I want to say is bro, relax.

1044
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,960
Like calm down.

1045
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,920
Like you ain't got to try so hard bro.

1046
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,040
You ain't got to talk so much.

1047
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,040
Tree, tree.

1048
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,640
I've been like, I've been like, bro, like you ain't got to try this hard for attention

1049
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:34,640
dog.

1050
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:35,640
Like it's okay.

1051
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:42,080
But on a serious note, I would probably be like, because looking back on it now, I think

1052
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:47,360
a lot of that was, was because you weren't maybe comfortable with yourself.

1053
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:53,120
So you, you kind of, where I like closed off, maybe you went like the other way and were

1054
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,720
like, I'm going to just, I would say so.

1055
00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:56,720
Yeah.

1056
00:54:56,720 --> 00:54:57,720
And that's not a bad thing.

1057
00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:00,000
I'm not knocking you or judging you or anything.

1058
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,360
But I think, I think I would definitely tell you about your parental units and be like,

1059
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,400
hey, like they're gassing you up bro.

1060
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:13,400
Like they're, they're pumping you up full of ideas that it's not right.

1061
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,160
And probably kind of the same thing too.

1062
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:16,960
I'd be like, just be yourself, dude.

1063
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:21,200
Like people, people like you for the way you are.

1064
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:32,160
I would say, I would probably say, hey, like your buddy Chris is going to need you to tell

1065
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:37,720
him the truth and be honest with him to help save him from some of the bad stuff that's

1066
00:55:37,720 --> 00:55:38,720
coming down the pipeline.

1067
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:45,960
If he don't change his ways, like just kind of like a warning to you to be like, hey bro,

1068
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,160
you're like, help your buddy Chris out.

1069
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:49,160
And that's, and that's good.

1070
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,240
No, that's good.

1071
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:55,440
I like that a lot because it was one of those things to where even though I was really outgoing

1072
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,720
and I would talk a lot and talk a lot for attention, there wouldn't have been a whole

1073
00:55:59,720 --> 00:56:00,720
lot.

1074
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:04,600
I didn't say a whole lot to you about like, yeah, I kind of beat around the bush that

1075
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,360
I didn't like the, the person you were with right at the time.

1076
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,960
And I did say some things, but when did I ever sit down with you and have a meaningful conversation

1077
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:17,120
and say like, Hey man, I just don't like the road that you're going down.

1078
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:21,760
Like it was always kind of, I wouldn't say passive aggressive, but it kind of wasn't

1079
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,480
ever fully direct.

1080
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:28,520
But let's be honest, even if you did, do you think I would have listened at that age?

1081
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:29,520
Probably not.

1082
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:30,680
Like probably not.

1083
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:36,200
But maybe if it would have came from you, maybe I don't know.

1084
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:41,160
Maybe I would have, if you would have sat down and like spell out the facts, maybe I would

1085
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:46,400
have, who knows, but I was pretty, I mean, I was pretty immature and prideful at that

1086
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:47,400
time of my life.

1087
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,560
So I would probably be like, you can't tell me no.

1088
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,920
And I think I wouldn't have been able to do the things that I have, I was doing at the

1089
00:56:53,920 --> 00:57:00,720
time, like some of the things that, because, and you know, I applaud you for this.

1090
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:04,640
You've always had a very strong moral compass, sometimes even too strong to where it was

1091
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,000
too tight, right?

1092
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,680
To where it was like, okay, you can loosen up just a little bit and it'll be okay.

1093
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:11,680
Yeah.

1094
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,200
Like my, like my, I'm not going to kiss anybody until I get married.

1095
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,200
Right.

1096
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,200
Yeah.

1097
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,200
That sort of stuff, right?

1098
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,080
Like it's like, it's okay to loosen up a little bit, right?

1099
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:25,040
And so I think that there was a lot of things that I was also doing at that time that I

1100
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:29,120
would have had to stop doing and have that conversation.

1101
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,120
There would have had to be a lot of that, right?

1102
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:35,560
To where you would have, because I don't even think that you would have trusted what I was

1103
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:40,440
saying because where you were at and who you were with, it's like, well, look at how

1104
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,880
he's livid and how he's doing.

1105
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,560
So how, you know, why would I listen to what he's saying?

1106
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,360
Cause I don't think that he knows what he's doing right now anyways.

1107
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,160
So I don't know.

1108
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,520
There's no telling if it would have worked or not, but at the same time, you know, it

1109
00:57:55,520 --> 00:58:00,520
all happened for a reason, but it's just, uh, no, it's interesting.

1110
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,000
It's interesting here in the perspective.

1111
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,000
Yeah.

1112
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,680
I'd be like, bro, you ain't got, you ain't got to talk so much, bro.

1113
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,160
I would be like, you, it's okay, bro.

1114
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,160
Nah.

1115
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:11,880
I'm just kidding though.

1116
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:12,880
Cool deal.

1117
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,880
You got, you got one more you want to end with?

1118
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:15,880
Yeah.

1119
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:16,880
Yeah.

1120
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:17,880
I got one more I want to end with here.

1121
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:22,760
So if you had a theme song that every time you walked in a room, it played, what would

1122
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:23,760
be your theme song?

1123
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,080
Can you guess what it is without me saying it?

1124
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,360
I put on for my city.

1125
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,360
That's right.

1126
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,360
I put on for my city by GZ.

1127
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:35,840
That would be my theme song every time I walked in, every time.

1128
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,840
It was hard because I was like, it's either that one or it'd be amazing.

1129
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,160
I could see that one from young GZ too.

1130
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:52,240
Nah, like, I like that song, but that's put on definitely or crank that soldier boy.

1131
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,800
That's my entrance music.

1132
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:55,800
Yeah.

1133
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,120
I got to love, got to love.

1134
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,120
Would you do turn my swag on?

1135
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,120
Would you do that?

1136
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:02,120
Kind of.

1137
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:08,680
That used to be my alarm, but that used to be my alarm clock too.

1138
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:09,680
What about you?

1139
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,880
What song, what song when you walk into a place is your entrance music?

1140
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:20,800
I thought about put on to Motley Crue kickstart my heart, you know, with the guitar at the

1141
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,080
beginning, right?

1142
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:23,080
That would be pretty cool.

1143
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:24,580
What about headbuses?

1144
00:59:24,580 --> 00:59:25,960
I thought about that too.

1145
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,440
That's like my fight intro music.

1146
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,440
We said, hey, buses.

1147
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,120
Yeah, I love little scrappy.

1148
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:38,480
Now, I have a question like since I'm thinking entrance, would you have Pyro in your entrance

1149
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:43,400
everywhere that you absolutely if I had the option for Pyro for sure?

1150
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,400
Why not?

1151
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:50,160
It's like, it's like the, it's, you know, a regular entrance with just music.

1152
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,720
It's like being at the Mexican food place and you get nice enchiladas with beans and

1153
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:55,720
rice.

1154
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:56,720
Now you have pyrotechnics.

1155
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,080
That's like you got the fajitas.

1156
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,600
Everybody gonna be looking right as it sizzles all the way down.

1157
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,440
Well, it's been a great episode, man.

1158
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:09,720
We're already in the August, so it's, it's nuts that we're trucking along.

1159
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,520
On month number eight, man.

1160
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:12,520
That's crazy.

1161
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:18,680
We're working towards, we're working towards season four and we got, we got big news coming

1162
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:19,680
for season four.

1163
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:20,680
So stay tuned for that.

1164
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,560
That's going to be, season four is going to be different, bro.

1165
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:25,560
Season four is going to be different.

1166
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,680
It's going to be different in the best of ways.

1167
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:28,840
It's going to be good.

1168
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:37,720
So go and like us and follow us on the trash can network and the aviator society on Instagram

1169
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:42,520
and YouTube and all the good stuff for all your trash can and yeah.

1170
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:47,360
Cause, you know, as you can tell Chris is such an av nerd, av geek.

1171
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,640
He loves planes like he loves planes.

1172
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:50,640
Yes I do.

1173
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,760
You don't even know anything about planes.

1174
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:53,760
My God.

1175
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:58,280
I have to constantly tell them and educate them about what planes are in the sky.

1176
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:02,920
He doesn't know a difference between an MD80 and a Gemini Airbus.

1177
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,640
See I don't even know the difference.

1178
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:09,280
He has to school me all the time on the differences.

1179
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,920
Well I figured, I figured I'd, I'd plug the, plug the aviator society.

1180
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:14,960
Well I appreciate that.

1181
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,520
I appreciate that.

1182
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,760
And it's a, it's steadily growing over there man.

1183
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:19,960
You know what's, what's crazy.

1184
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:26,480
I just, we'll give a shout out to, to all of our listeners internationally, but the trash

1185
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:31,600
can network, our, our YouTube channel there man, it hit over a hundred thousand views

1186
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:38,480
in the last six months, which is pretty wild to think about that our content's been seen

1187
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,680
over a hundred thousand times.

1188
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,840
It's pretty, pretty crazy.

1189
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,880
So it's continuing over there.

1190
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,720
And it's not just aviation stuff on the trash can network.

1191
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,920
It's a whole bunch of different stuff.

1192
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:59,400
And you know what, the secret's out, even from when we had our website and had our

1193
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,400
free streaming services, guess what?

1194
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,440
All the playlist from the free streaming service are still on our YouTube page.

1195
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:11,800
So if you want to check those out, all the ifer and I, the cops, the cheaters, all that

1196
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,240
stuff is still on there too.

1197
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:14,520
So you can see that.

1198
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,120
And Chris and I's funny hijinks from back in the day.

1199
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:18,640
We've got all those videos on there too.

1200
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,280
There's all sorts of stuff you can see on the trash can network.

1201
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,280
So go check that out.

1202
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:23,280
I got to love it.

1203
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,440
Well, it's about time for the Starship to sign us out.

1204
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:31,040
I'm Chris and I'm Michael and this is...

1205
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:56,320
We Built This City.