Old people be taking some stuff real serious.
So as you know, and as some of the listeners know,
I've been hanging out at the old people home,
hanging out with my grandpa and whatnot.
Well, today they had the 4th of July,
Cornhole tournament, bro.
Them old, I've never seen old,
or I've never seen people get so enthused about Cornhole.
I never saw old people get into fights
like I did about Cornhole neither.
What were they fighting about?
About the points, about the points and stuff.
So I didn't really know.
So I didn't really know much about Cornhole,
like how it was scored and whatnot.
And I swear, because they're all,
they kind of changed every time.
Like if you got a Cornhole,
like, you know, you got it in the hole,
sometimes it was two points,
and then sometimes they'd be like,
no, it was three points.
And I'm like, okay, but last round it was two.
So I don't know.
But anyways, they'd be like, no, that was our point.
That was our point.
And it's like, no, it wasn't.
That was our point.
And they got into all these fights, bro.
And there was one where the activities director
had to come and like break it up,
because the two dudes were like in each other's face.
And they were like, they're like,
Are you serious?
Yes, they're no way.
They were in each other's face.
And they were just like, they were pointing.
Like the other guy was pointing back there.
And he was going, man, that was my point.
Look at that.
That's one, two, three.
You can't count, can you?
And he was like, oh, I can count.
You're the one that can't see.
Maybe you need to get better glasses.
Started going back and forth.
And then so the activities director comes out there
and she had to settle it.
She was like, okay, now,
and I'm going to use different names.
She's like, okay, now John, that was actually his point.
And the guy that got the point,
like the team that got the point,
he was like, see, you couldn't see anything, could you?
Couldn't see nothing.
You couldn't see and all that.
And he started going off the other guy points back
and he goes, I'm listening to her, not your stupid ass.
And I was like, oh, man, they got, they got heated.
It was, it was quite entertaining.
It just reminds me of how we used to fight on the playground.
Playground, play like football or something.
It's like, no, no, no, no, that was more than five Mississippi.
No rush.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Yes, it was your bubble line.
It's like, it's like, oh, I said, I said,
walk on ball.
You should have walked up there.
Yeah, exactly.
It was all, it's all that.
And then the teacher has to get involved.
Yeah.
And then they're going, what in the heck are you two talking about?
And then come to find out it's something really dumb.
But yeah, man, I'm telling you, they get so competitive.
Apparently I had heard from some of the other people,
it's a once a year tournament.
They have it like every year at the 4th of July at this place.
And apparently there are multiple people that train
all year for this.
Like that, that is their sport.
And they come down there and expect, so it's like tense and heated.
They like make everybody be quiet and everything.
It's pretty, pretty crazy.
I'm Chris.
And I'm Michael.
And this is the Donut Box podcast.
Well, man, you got to love 4th of July.
You got to love that at the senior living home.
I mean, really and truly what it is,
is they don't have much control over a lot in their life,
but that is the one thing they have to look forward to.
So they take it real serious.
They take it real serious, really serious.
And it wasn't even for money.
It's just bragging rights.
And I mean, they, apparently they had been practicing all year for it
and all sorts of stuff.
Craziness, craziness.
But man, it's been, it's been pretty cool.
It's been great.
As you alluded to last episode, man,
we're on all the continents besides Antarctica.
So, you know, shout out to Trashcan all across the world.
And Antarctica, you got to get on board
because Mr. Great podcast.
But hey, you know, we're grateful for everybody
that we have listening to us every single week.
So shout out to you guys.
But it's our free flow episode.
Isn't that right, Chris?
Yes.
And we've done this one before,
but we're going to let AI generate some questions
and whatever questions they generate, that's what we're going to talk about.
We're going to just use those as jumping off points.
It's not because we're lazy.
We just figured, hey, AI is here and we got to use it.
I heard this quote in Moneyball, which you've never,
if you've never seen Moneyball, it's great.
But basically it said, adapt or die.
And I was like, man, that's like a really good piece of advice
because it's true.
Yeah, it is.
And you know, a lot of people think AI is scary.
For somebody who's in the tech world,
it still has a long way to go.
It does have some great features
and there are some scary prospects with it.
But at the same time, you got to admit, it's pretty darn handy.
And I'm pretty sure a lot of kids in college right now
are writing their papers exclusively through chat GPT
or something like that.
I don't think anybody's writing their papers anymore.
Are you ready to get started?
Yeah, absolutely.
Do you want to ask the first one?
I do.
I don't remember if we asked this the first one.
So if we did, I apologize.
But what's a book or movie that changed your perspective on life
or maybe it was impactful for you?
Oh, I can already tell you, it was I am legend.
That movie was impactful for me.
Now, I think that was probably because at that time,
I had seen other pretty crazy movies.
But that was the one that I remember really being about the storyline.
I mean, I even like my space back then,
when my space was this thing,
there was a way that you can HTML code your page
and do different things.
I remember when that movie came out,
I even had the little countdown to when it would become nighttime outside
and then my page would change into zombies and stuff.
It was pretty nuts.
Or not zombies, but the vampire stuff.
I feel like maybe from what was that, 2008 to like 2012,
there was a big fascination or obsession with zombies
because think about it like, what was it called?
Zombieland, Walking Dead, World War Z.
I am legend.
I feel like that was like a big zombie phase.
Yeah, it definitely was.
There's definitely phases.
There was like a zombie phase.
And then, yeah, for sure.
I remember a big ninja phase for a while.
A lot of people like ninja.
Anyways, zombies.
But yeah, I had this countdown on my space and everything
based off of that movie.
And I don't know.
Probably because of, I had never seen a midnight premiere.
That was the first midnight premiere I went to.
Think about this.
I was sixth or seventh grade the first time I saw it.
And, you know, sixth and seventh grade.
Yeah, you're a little bit more matured, but like,
you don't want to admit it, but things just scare you.
Things still definitely scare you like you're a kid.
You're kind of in that in-between phase.
And man, I remember midnight premiere
and we come out and so my maternal unit, she left.
She thought it was going to be a not so scary movie.
And I mean, 15 minutes in when they're in the warehouse,
she's already like, give me the keys.
I'm leaving.
So she left.
And man, I just remember she didn't come back for a long time.
And we stood on the curb outside of Regal Cinemas over there.
And it was scary because it's like,
we just watched this movie where all this stuff comes out at night.
Here we are in the pitch black at night.
But, bro, I just remember that movie was just really impactful.
I guess it was probably because of I'd never seen pop-ups like that.
I'd never seen violence like that.
And it really made me consider and what would happen
because being the good Christian boy that I was,
I always had the fear kind of like the left behind of everybody
would get raptured and you'd be left behind.
And I kind of at the time equated that to what I am.
Legend was like, I think you would be the only one left
and everybody else was basically, but that's not really how it is.
But at the time, that's how it impacted me.
I think for me, it wasn't like the movie or book itself,
but I think just pieces of advice that I got from it.
So for me to kill a mockingbird, that was an impactful book for me
because there's one quote that Atticus says that like,
you never really understand someone until you like,
put yourself in their shoes or, you know, and so that was like,
man, that's kind of a piece of advice that I've tried to live.
And I always think about, especially when I'm mad.
And then training day, it's the quote that says,
it's not about what you know, it's about what you can prove.
And I live by that, bro.
I screenshot everything.
I document everything because I'm like, you know what?
Save emails, everything.
That's very factual.
Yeah, man, especially because in this day and age,
and we've talked about this and I'm not going to get into,
but some people be trying to sully your name,
try to insult your character and say that you'd be doing this and that.
But if you got that proof, it makes it all go away.
For sure.
All right, man, you ready for this next question?
So the first one it came up with, we asked the last time,
what is something, and I think I already know the answer to this,
but what is something that you're currently obsessed with?
I wouldn't say obsessed with.
I, you know, I do love the WWE and I do love wrestling and wrestling knowledge,
man, but it's, maybe it's not a obsession more than a fascination with cults.
I have like a huge fascination with cults.
Like I would just wonder how they like get started and how they shift really quickly
because most of the time cults follow like a typical pattern where they start out with this
group of people and what they're believing is pretty much true.
And then there's something that just like switches and then all of a sudden it turns into a cult.
And then of course with cults comes like financial scandal, you know, sex scandals,
all that stuff.
And so I'm just always curious like how did this cult become, go from being a group to being a cult?
So that's something I think I'm fascinated with.
I'll tell mine in just a second, but springing off of yours, what's interesting about the cult bit
is if you study gangs, gangs are a lot the same way.
Most of your major gangs, bloods, crips, they all started because they were just trying to
protect their neighborhood from a lot of racism and violence that was happening.
And so a lot of it was started, I wouldn't necessarily say for a good cause, but it was
to protect each other and things like that, right?
And then it became turf wars, selling drugs.
You got to make money somehow, right?
And especially if you're doing it, it just, it's weird how it starts off with good intentions
and then the road just becomes very skewed down the line.
And I wouldn't say that the way we grew up, we didn't grow up in a cult, but the way we grew up
had maybe some cultish tendencies.
And so I always want to make sure I never like fall back into that way of thinking again.
So anyway, sorry, what is your obsession?
I think part of what's fascinating, I'm doing one more thing here.
I think part of what's fascinating and you talk about, you know, our past and things like that,
I think it's because it's somewhat relatable in a lot of these instances about how some of
these people can get sucked into some of these things.
Some of my obsession going off of that, one of the things I'm obsessed about,
similar but different dictators, dictators very, very much fascinate me about the Kim family in
North Korea, especially.
It's very interesting, you know, and the question that I have, especially being
in somewhat of an environment to where you can relate to something like that,
are those people really brainwashed to the point where they think these things or are they just
so oppressed that they're forced to feel these things?
They have to say that or they end up in camps.
Where's the line?
Right? Because for me, I know some people have, I'm sure it's a mix, right?
I'm sure some people are 100% sold on the ideas and I'm sure some people see right through it,
but don't have a choice.
It's just kind of that weird line for me that's like, okay, are you brainwashed or are you just
having to go through the motions?
And I don't know why that fascinates me in that bit, but kind of to a similar note,
who is the most fascinating dictator for you?
Again, the Kim family, all three of them.
The dad, Kim Il-sung, Kim Jong-il, and then now Kim Jong-un.
Even Kim Jong-il or Kim Jong-un's sister, who's pretty much running the show.
A lot of people don't know that.
A lot of people think Kim Jong-un's doing the, he's the front because they don't want to have a
woman running things and that's not a good look for them in their mind.
But the sister is ruthless, man.
If you ever look her up, she's pretty ruthless.
Anyways, I think what's interesting to me about them to go into that is they tell their people
one thing, but then they're doing something completely opposite and it's right there in
their face, but then somehow they're still worshiped.
I'm not saying that that's what I want or I would want to know how to do,
but that just fascinates the mess out of me because we see that in other facets of life.
Heck, we're even looking at it in this election and we're going into some touchy stuff,
but my thing is like Donald Trump, the dude just got convicted, right?
And yet people love him.
People are almost borderline worshiping this man and you're sitting here and he can do all this
bad stuff right in people's face and they're like, oh, no, he had to do that.
And it's like, it just is mind blowing to me.
And so the Kims are the same way, you know, they, for a long period they had prohibition,
right? You couldn't drink any alcohol, but at the same time, the Kim family was one of the biggest
importers of cognac in the world, right? So it's like, it's interesting.
They won't allow Western movies.
They won't allow Western media.
Kim Jong-il had one of the largest DVD collections and movie collections of anybody on the planet.
And you know what one of the movies he had was?
It was Team America where he was represented.
That's the question.
If I could ask him anything without getting killed, and of course he's dead,
but it's like watching that movie where you saw little Kim, the little puppet, what did you think
of the representation of yourself? You had to like it. You kept the movie. So, you know, I mean,
it's just, it's, it's just weird to me and it's fascinating. I don't know how to describe it.
For sure. For sure. All right. Next question.
What is a common misconception that people have about you?
This is a very simple one. Music genres. People get so shocked when I know rap music primarily,
or like hip-hop music. I don't know. People never expect that out of me. I don't know why.
I guess it's because I'm pasty white. I have no clue. But talk about hip-hop music.
Talk about some of the other stuff. I'm trying to think. Another common misconception is,
and this is a hard one. It goes a lot, it's pretty deep, is a lot of people take my kindness for
weakness if that counts in this. So many people think, oh man, he's nice. So he's a pushover.
And that's a misconception. I mean, probably in the past, and there's probably some things that
I'm probably too lenient on still, but come a long way in standing up for myself. And so
I think that's still the common misconception is, oh man, I can get one over on this guy.
You can try it. We'll see. I don't know. I'm sure you've had to combat that a little bit too.
Oh yeah. A lot of people think that because I'm quiet, they underestimate me and like what I could
do. And so like, especially in my field of work, like whenever I get on a stage and like teach
or preach people, like I had no idea that came out of you. Like you're so quiet and this and that.
And I'm like, yeah, like a lot of people underestimate me. And I've been, I've been kind
of like underestimated my whole life. So I'm used to it. But yeah, I think a lot of people just
underestimate what I can do. I think also a lot of people are surprised when I'm as funny as I am.
They're like, you're really funny. We had no idea. And I'm like, uh, yeah, like it just takes me a
while to warm up to people, you know? Yeah, especially to a group. Yeah, for sure. And I
understand that. I mean, I've been shut down enough to the point where it's like, yeah,
you only want to make jokes in front of people you know, we're going to take it well.
Chad GBT came up with some from the last time too. I think we asked that one too,
but I'll ask this one again if we've asked this one. What is a skill or hobby that you've
always wanted to try but haven't skill or a hobby that I've always wanted to try?
Like I've said, I've wanted to do parasailing. I know skydiving was one too, right?
Skydiving. I've wanted to do skydiving. Man, honestly, a hobby, I really want to get into like
ATV like four wheelers. Like I feel like that would be pretty fun.
Yeah, it's fun stuff. It's fun stuff. Yeah, I don't blame you there. I've done ATV so I can't
say like I'd like to get back into it, but this is never done. I think my obvious choices were
I've flown a plane. I think I'd want to fly a float plane. I've always wanted to do that
where you can land on land or water. You know, I've always thought the idea of being able to
land on water and go fishing for the day sounded really good. It's a very expensive day to go fishing,
but hey. And then I think for me, I like the idea of skydiving. It's just hard for me to get into
it, man. It's hard for me to work my way up to it. But I don't know. I think for me, this is not
necessarily a hobby that we haven't done, but more specifically, I still want to ride King
Dekal, the big roller coaster in New Jersey. What is one skill that you think everyone should learn
and why? I think everyone should learn empathy and how to... I know that's kind of...
Would you consider that skill? I think it's a skill. If you can feel where somebody else is,
do you think so? Because to me, I feel like it's... If you have good empathy or have empathetic skills,
then you can read rooms. You can read people a little bit better and you can react to them
and understand where they are. Because I feel like the biggest disconnect is we're not understanding
where the other person's at. I think some people just lack the ability to even learn that though.
You know what I mean? Oh, for sure. Everybody can learn how to make a groovy sandwich. But
learning empathy, I think that's one that not everybody can learn. I guess that's true. And
what's hard is for me, that doesn't make sense in my mind, right? Because I feel empathy and things
like that. And it's like, no, sure, everybody can feel it. But no, for real, I do think that some
people can't learn empathy or are incapable of that. So you're right there. Let me see this.
I think that I'm going to go really basic. Change a tire. So many people don't know how to change
a freaking tire on the side of the road. You know what? I think everybody needs to learn how to do
that if you're going to drive. That's what I was going to say too. Everyone needs to learn how to
change a tire, man. It doesn't matter if you're a guy or a girl, you need to learn how to do that.
Because that comes in handy for sure. For sure. I also say everyone, and this is kind of outdated
now, but I feel like everyone should learn how to tie a tie. Your boy, girl, everyone should learn
how to tie a tie. Yeah, especially because you'll be at your best friend's wedding as his best man
and saying, hey, can you tie my tie at the last second? True story. For sure. For sure. Still
need to learn how to tie a tie better and quicker time. Anyways, I just never have to do it, man.
You know, it's like I never put on a tie, so I don't have to. Anyways, let's see. What's the next
question here? Again, I'm having to scroll past some of these because it's like, we already asked
that. Okay, if you could instantly become an expert in any subject, what would it be?
Ooh, an expert in any subject? Man, I don't know. I'm like, man, like, I'm not an expert in
WWE or wrestling knowledge, but okay, I'll tell you what it is. I wish I could become an expert
in being a mechanic and fixing cars. I feel like that would save me a lot of money, like, just to
be able to know, like, just to diagnose a problem with a car, like, instantly and be able to fix
it. Hearing based off of a tick. Yeah, it's like, oh, I hear, you know, to the point where it's like,
oh, there's a ticking noise and you know exactly what that ticking noise is without even doing
anything. What about you? Exactly. Mine is very, very simple and very, very predictable. I don't
want to know everything about aviation, just mainly, you know, a lot of how things work and how to fly
everything. That'd be great. But you know a lot about it. You're pretty much an expert. I would
consider you an expert in the field. Okay, I'll say expert in civil aviation, because people
always be like military and I'm like, man, I don't know nothing about them. I know some about the
military, but not nearly as much as commercial. So some areas maybe, but not across the board,
I think. And then of course, but see, when I'm talking about like expert of everything, maybe
I'm going too in depth, but I'm like, yeah, I want to know the inner workings. I want to know how the
bushings work on these engines, you know, or like, I don't know, just knowing everything about everything
with it. I think people would consider you an expert in the world of aviation. I would say by
today's standards, like I would consider you, you know, a lot more than average bear, I guess I
should say. I mean, I guess that that is true. And hey, we've got our avnerd buddies out there. And
if you're halfway through this episode and want to see more, you know, there's the Aviation Society
out there on Instagram. Anyways, all right. So the next question, did I ask the last question? I did.
I got the question. What is the best trip that you've ever been on? And why was it so special?
Like, what made it special for you? Oh, man, a best trip as hard at all of them. I think it was the
summer of 2016. I went to Florida with my grandparents. And we went to the Blue Angel Camp
Ground in Pensacola, Florida, and did all the fun old people things and campers. I don't know, man,
that's always a fun summer vacation. What stuck out to me was when we've talked about in the podcast,
you know, I don't have the best relationship with my parents, but that summer really,
being out in Florida and things kind of made me start thinking about the relationship I wanted
to have or not have with them. And so I think really a lot of that kind of turned the tide. And so
that summer kind of helped move that process along, if that makes sense. So I'm fond of that. And then
that was the last vacation I got to spend with my grandfather before he passed away. So it's kind of
like multifaceted there. How about yourself? I would say two. And they both involve universal
studios. So my honeymoon this past, not this past year, the year before, that was a great trip just
because I like, yes, it was my honeymoon, but we just had fun. I really got to enjoy universal
studios. It was fun. And then the first time I went to universal studios, that was like the last
big family vacation that we had as a family with my mom and my dad and my brother. And I just remember
like, everyone had so much fun and we spent so much time together. And like, normally people would
be fighting, but like nobody fought. And we still talk about that vacation to this day, just because
it was such a fun vacation. It was the last big one that we all took together, which was in 2011,
I think, or 2010. That's awesome. Yeah, I've still, yeah, to be in the universal, I still want to go.
All right, let's see what the next one is. This one's a good one. What is a piece of technology
in this world that you could, that we could live without or you think we should get rid of? Is there
a piece of technology that's like, to ask that one? Okay. I think you asked that one. Oh yeah,
because I said printers. And you know, the first thing on my mind was printers. We use too much
paper in this world anyways. Okay. Ooh, I already know the answer to this one, but I want to hear
your answer. So we're going to ask it. Do you think humanity is headed in the right direction
overall right now? Do I think humanity is headed in the right direction? Yeah, overall right now.
I already know the answer. Oh, how much time you got, brother? How much time you got? I'll tell
you no. You know why? Because people nowadays, man, people are selfish. People are selfish, selfish,
selfish. They only care about them. They don't have grace for other people. Cancel cultures,
a big thing. Everyone talks about my truth, this, my truth, that. Truth is relative. I feel like
there's really not any morals anymore. Like yeah, there's like morals on big stuff. Like of course,
you know, don't be a pedophile and don't murder people. But like other than that, there's no
morals. People are just doing whatever they want without any consequences. And if you try to like
say, Hey, this is wrong. They're like, stop judging me. So no, I don't think humanity is headed in
the right place. I think it's very hedonistic. Oh yeah. That makes no absolutely no follow up
question. And I know how you feel about this, but you know, I want to hear it again. Do you think
COVID really accelerated a lot of that or changed the culture to where it's way more selfish and
way more promoting yourself over everyone else? I agree with you on that for sure, because I think
during COVID, everyone was so afraid. And it really invoked panic to where it was like if somebody
even, you know, came within six feet of you, people like get away from me. And so we started to
treat each other and people were ugly about it too. Like people were very ugly about it. And so
they didn't wear a mask. They were ugly about it. You're like, I mean, there was a whole, yeah.
It's a whole thing. And so people only started to care about them and their family. And they
realized, Hey, we can be here quarantined all together. We're fine. We don't really need anybody
else. And I think being in that survival mode, people never really came back from that. So now
that everything's opened up, it's like, Oh, like, I'm just going to protect me and my family. I
don't care about anybody else. I agree with you on that. And I also think that things like, you
know, we live in a great day and age for some things like delivery, grocery delivery to your
home or food delivery to your home or different things like that. Amazon stuff like that, right?
And I think that had stuff to, you know, part to play with it too. If you had a pandemic back in
the day and things like that, you still had to go to the grocery store, right? And you still had to
go talk to people and you still had to interact with people. A lot of the times in this case,
you just got it all delivered to your house. Some people just never left, right? And I really think,
you know, you do any sort of case study on people who are confined prison wise or anywhere else,
man, it changes some stuff. And, you know, it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of people got changed
by that experience, you know, in a worse way and a lot of their bad characteristics are coming out.
Next question is, what is a movie or TV show that you think everyone should see? Man, that's a,
it's kind of a tough one. I had a few flashed through my mind, but when I said, okay, why would
you say that? It's like, I don't know. No, just tell us. Okay. The first one that flashed into my
mind was Family Guy. And I'm like, why Family Guy? I don't understand. This is my own mind. And I
don't understand. I don't understand why I'd want people to watch Family Guy. But there you go. Just
the early seasons. I don't know. Maybe it was because that's what taught me about life, that and Jerry
Springer. I mean, I mean, listen, coming home from school at four o'clock in the afternoon and watching
Jerry Springer and a couple of trainees throw down. I mean, there's nothing more about learning about
life than that. Anyways, so yeah, I would say that I did show my grandfather, Team America,
speaking of that. And I'm kind of ashamed of showing him that, but hey, culture. So yeah,
I guess Family Guy, guess that's what we're going with. I would say, I don't know. There's a couple
that I have in mind because everyone's like, oh, I hate the office. Like I don't think so much TV
shows because everyone has their preference, right? So TV shows is different. But movie, I don't know
why I say this, but Soul Plane. Like I feel like everyone needs to watch Soul Plane. I feel like
everyone needs to watch The Lion King because that's just a great movie. Which oh, I need it. Oh,
something else. I didn't even tell you this. I watched all about the Benjmans too. So we got to talk
about that at some point. Oh yeah. What'd you think of it? Did you like it? I thought it was funny. It
was definitely the time period and it was definitely Ice Cube. Man, that dude never takes that snarl off
his face. That's like his signature. Yeah, he's hilarious. I think also everyone should watch,
I don't know. I guess maybe I was thinking like all the bad boys because I think they're just great
movies. But I'm trying to think like what is one movie that's just like a cultural masterpiece?
Okay, I'll tell you what it is. It's the movie Gaslight. No, Gaslight. Shawshank prediction.
You should definitely watch Gaslight. Everyone should see it. It's an older movie, but everyone
should watch that movie because then they can understand the term where the term gaslighting
comes from and then they can actually use that term appropriately. You know, there's one movie
that I feel is really underrated and I think it's just watch it because I like it. But that's Flight
of the Phoenix with the whole Dennis Quaid and Tyrese Gibson. I don't love that movie and I don't
know why you love that. I don't know. It's wild. I don't know. It's an interesting one. Anyways,
well, is it any surprise that it's aviation related? Why do you think I like it?
I'm thinking it's a surprise. Let's see. Oh, this one's an interesting one. How do you think your
life would change if you became instantly famous? Oh, we kind of talked about this the other day.
I mean, obviously, I think I would be probably more stressed out because you couldn't really go
anywhere without, you know, people wanting autographs. You definitely wouldn't have any
privacy anymore. You would have to do a whole bunch of like, I think you're just your work and your
daily life would change if you were famous. Now, what am I famous for? That's the real question.
That is that is a real question. In my mind, if I saw Chris is famous, you know how I've always seen
you as kind of a flavorflav character where it's like all the rappers love you and you're just like
a hype man for somebody. Like, I don't know why, but in my mind is like Christopher famous and like
hyping people up. I don't know. I can see it. Yep. That's me. Somebody said that. They were like,
you remind me of that little dude flavorflav and I was like, yeah, he is my spirit animal because
I don't know what it is, but it's like, you say Christopher famous. That's what pops into my mind.
I'm sure there's a lot of other things you could be famous for, but in my mind, you always be the
white flavorflav. I think for me, it would be the same thing. It would just, you know, you got to
get a car that's blacked out so people don't know it's you or else they'd be all up on you. Now,
you know, some celebrities do great with it, right? I feel like they do fantastic with it
and they're able to be pretty private about their lives and things like that. But I mean,
you hear all these stories about crazy stalkers and stuff coming for you and your family and you
don't know who they are. I hate that stuff. Like, yeah, I don't think so. If you could live in a
fictional world from a book or a movie, which one would you choose and why you live in that world?
If you could live in that world, see, the problem is most of the time in books or movies, the world
that they're in sucks and they're, you know, they're having to fight out of a problem of some
sort because it sucks. I'm trying to think and you know what I'm trying to think of? I'm just
trying to think of a movie that is set in a tropical beach somewhere that I'm telling you. I don't,
I don't know. Oh, there's a, well, I wouldn't want to live in that world either. I was going to say
there's a British murder mystery called death and paradise where they're in a Caribbean island.
And it's like, yeah, I'd like to be there, but then come to think of it, it's a very small island
and they tend to have a lot of murders. So I don't think so. I was going to say Friday and hang out
with Craig and Day Day, but definitely not. You just want to hang out in the hood with Craig and
Day Day or what? Yeah, I think I'd fit in for sure. I mean, it was just up the street from
Balfour. Yeah, I would probably want to live in like the Star Wars universe because if I could be
a Jedi, that would be kind of cool. I'm sure there's some, I'm sure there's some cool planets around
there though. I know this, I wouldn't be going out to the Dago bus system. I wouldn't be hanging
out around Tatooine and I know this, I wouldn't be living on Coruscant. That thing looks like one
big New York and I don't think so. I really want to be, would you want to live in the world of the
office? Would you want to live in that world? I guess if I could be Jim to where you're like the
number one salesman actually making money and just like secretly roasting people? Yeah, now if I had
to be like a Dwight Hale. Would you want to, would you want to live in the Bernie Mac show?
Oh, actually go back one step for the office. Is it the Dunder Mifflin or is it Dunder Mifflin
owned by Saber World? Which one are we talking about? No, it's the OG Dunder Mifflin. All right,
all right. So yeah, okay, yeah, I would do that. What was the next one? I'm sorry. I said, would you
want to live in the Bernie Mac show? As long as I'm not one of the kids and I get to be Bernie
with the money or just like Bernie's friend. Yeah, that's fine. Go play poker and hear them.
If you can only eat one cuisine or meal for the rest of your life, what would it be?
Chick-fil-A. No, I'm just kidding. I don't know. Cuisine? Oh, probably pizza, man. I don't ever get
tired of pizza. Really? I get tired of pizza. For me, it's Mexican food. I get Mexican food all
day, every day, man. Just keep on giving. It's like in the morning, slap some beans in a tortilla.
We're good for lunch. Give me a couple of enchiladas with some rice and beans for dinner. Give me some
like carne gasada. We rolling, man. I'll probably be 400 pounds by the end of the week, but that's
also like the part of Texas you live in because it's good over there. And I guess that's true.
Man, even the fast food places are good around here, Mexican food wise. But anyways,
all right, cool. What's my next one? All right. Oh, we're going to get really deep here.
What's the most valuable lesson you've learned from a failure? Trust in yourself. That was the
biggest thing was I was putting my, and the failure that I'm thinking about, and it's a long story,
so we're not going into it, but the failure that I'm thinking about was I did not trust myself.
I didn't trust my gut. I knew what you know down deep that, hey, what you know and what you're
saying is right and you listen to other people. So I guess the two biggest things was don't listen
to other people and trust yourself. And ever since then, it's been a lot better because
you listen to where your compass is guiding. And you're not always right, but at the same time,
majority of the time, the people who are trying to sway you in a different direction to have an
agenda anyways, you know? How about yourself? What's a lesson? I think it's to not be so hard on
yourself, to give yourself grace for sure, definitely with, you know, being married before and stuff.
I think it was more like, hey, don't ever let anybody make you believe something about yourself
that's not true. You know what I mean? Like, or doubt your worth or anything like that. And you
got to put up boundaries and you got to put up or decide what your worth is. I think.
Well, I'm going to match your, man, chat, GBT kind of put these back to back like this, I guess.
But the next question is also deep. What is a belief or something that you, or I'm sorry,
what is a belief that you held strongly in the past and you since changed your mind about?
Ooh, a belief that I've held strongly in the past that I since changed my mind about. Oh,
I'll tell you this. And please don't judge me for this. But I, being in my faith, I used to really
think that if you struggle with depression or anxiety, that it was like a spiritual problem
and that you didn't have enough faith. Because you don't have the faith to go on.
Yeah. But that was like a young naive thing. And having like experienced it myself, I learned that
sometimes people just go through that because sometimes there's chemical imbalances, sometimes
there's past traumas, past hurts that people need to work with. And that it's okay to like
some things like yes, prayer fixes, but sometimes some things counseling fixes and prayer. And then
sometimes it's counseling prayer and maybe some medical help, right? Like some medicine or whatever.
And so that has been a belief that I have that I have since changed. Yeah, absolutely. One of my
major ones, and some of you will be like, why? I used to not think that women belong to leadership,
like at all. And that's a, I know, right? That's a lot of how I was raised in the part of the country
and some of this, even some of the religion played into that a little bit. But especially when it came
to when Hillary Clinton was running for president, that was my whole reason at the time of not wanting
to vote for it wasn't because of Benghazi wasn't because of any of the other stuff that people
were saying. It was literally because it's like nope, women can't be president, can't do it,
just not supposed to happen. It's always supposed to be a guy. And since I've changed that, it's like,
you know, my mindset right now is I don't care what you are, as long as you don't, as long as that
doesn't come in between things and as long as you're not favoring one gender over the other or
however that works. And as long as you're doing a good job, who cares? Right? I mean, as long as
they're doing, they're supposed to do, I mean, England's had how many female prime ministers
and it worked out fine. So I mean, they had Margaret Thatcher and how many Queens have they had and
that worked out fine too. Look how many Queens America's had just look at RuPaul. All right,
next. Oh, all right. Mine is a two part question. Okay. First part of it, what is your favorite
holiday just of all time? Thanksgiving. Oh, yeah, I knew that. Why is it your favorite holiday?
One, you can gorge yourself in two football. And a lot of times I just like Thanksgiving food. So
unless you make it funky, I've been to some people's houses or friends' givings where y'all
be making some goofy stuff. All I'm saying is I like my turkey. I like my stuffing with not too
much weird fancy stuff. It's just mostly bread. Don't screw that up. You know, I've seen like
raisins and stuffing and crap. I don't think so, Brian. And this is the second part of my question.
If you could create a new holiday, what would it celebrate and how would people observe? Man,
I think this is really, I am going to pull from a TV show here. I think there's some merit to
having Festivus. Have you ever heard of Festivus, Christopher? Festivus for the rest of us. Yes,
it comes from a TV show. It's from Seinfeld and it's George Costanz's dad. He used to celebrate
Festivus and pretty much the reason that I would want it's it's goofy holiday and basically each
family just makes up what you want. But the main bit is instead of a Christmas tree, you put up a
Festivus pole and it's just a pole in the middle of your house that you can wrap with garland or
whatever. And one of the best things and I think every family needs this is the airing of grievances.
That's the first thing that you do. You sit down at the table and everybody's kind of problem.
Dare it out. Right there. It's not a fun holiday. It's more of a joke holiday than anything, I guess.
But Festivus for the rest of us. That's all I got to say. Do you have a holiday that you would
invent? Is there one up top your head that you're like? Yes, I would. The National WWE holiday.
And what we do is we I'm not advocating for this if my job is listening, but we do the Stone Cold
Steve Austin. Smash two beers together. Yeah. Do the beers together. And then you and then instead
of the 25 days of Christmas, you do the 25 days of WrestleMania. So you watch the first you pick
a match from each of the first five or first 25 WrestleMania's and you watch it. So actually I
watch on Christmas Eve. This is a tradition that I started last year. I watched WrestleMania 24,
the match between Shawn Michaels and Rick Blair. It was Rick Flair's retirement match.
And then on Christmas Day, I watched Shawn Michaels versus the Undertaker from WrestleMania 25.
That's just a tradition now, huh? Yep, it is a tradition. We also watch,
like leading up to Christmas, we watch all the Harry Potter's. I don't know. It's not a Christmas
movie, but it just feels like Christmas time when we watch Harry Potter. Now, I totally get that.
One movie tradition that we actually have, believe it or not, my family has a movie tradition.
Can you believe that? No, what is your movie tradition? Mainly my wife says, yes, we're
watching this. But every Halloween, we watch Rocky Horror Picture Show. That's lovely. Yeah,
it's a very interesting movie. Anyways, we can do it. We can do it. We can do one more piece.
It's okay if we go long. Let's do it. Let's do it. All right. So was it my turn or yours? What is an
advent or an invention or a source of media that you think will be obsolete in 10 years?
An invention or source of media. The Blu-ray player is already kind of obsolete. The DVD
player is also obsolete. DVD player too. I don't know if the printers are going to be obsolete.
Probably not for the foreseeable future. Mainly just because so many people still print things out
and use paper copies of stuff. And until that goes away and everything is mainly digital,
let's be honest, when all the other generations die off and there's nothing left but to have
emails sent back and forth. Maybe in 10 years, it might be obsolete. I don't know if Facebook,
I know people maybe because everything, because younger generations don't use Facebook as much.
They're using Instagram and TikTok. Well, they haven't for a while, man. I mean,
it's been like a 10, that's been like 10 years. I mean, because I remember like 2013, 2014,
it was already kind of like, eh, it's Instagram, everything else. And Facebook was kind of only
used for older people and people that were kind of behind on the times. I don't know.
What do you think? That's a really hard one. You covered all the ones I was thinking about.
I think that eventually, this is a bold prediction, but I eventually think that cold,
hard cash is going to be gone. I don't think we're going to have cash at all. I don't think we're
going to have paper money. I think it's going to go all to digital currency, which is not good.
But I like paper. I like paper money too. But so many people, I mean, you know our governments,
they say they're printing the money, but it's really not going into circulation. So it's
just not a lot of people have it. And I mean, think about this, man, the system that
the banks and everybody else wants you to be in, you put your money in there. It's kind of like
a video game, right? You put your tokens in there. It shows you how much money is in there,
but it's not real money. It's just showing you what could be there, right? That money's gone.
The bank's already spent it, done other stuff with it. I think it's more,
they want to get us to a place in society to where they don't have to do any sort of currency. And
they can, you know, it's a lot easier for the government banks to dictate things. And I don't
want to go all conspiracy theorists stuff, but it's like, I think they want it to go that way.
It's a lot easier to control than the paper money route. So I think that's where it's going to head.
And it costs a lot to do. It costs a lot to do paper money. It costs a lot to do coins,
especially like the penny. We've been losing money on the penny for a long time.
For sure. All right. Last question is a two part question. Okay. I ended on a good one.
So think about it. If you could talk to your future self, what is one question you would ask
your future self? How much money we got?
I guess that would be kind of the general question, like how we doing? Like,
it's, I guess it's kind of hard because it's like, it's a very broad question, right? And the how you
doing? The future me would know you got kids. Like, are we in a house? Do we got money? Yeah.
What's going on? Where are we at? What's the career look like? You know?
All right. Then if you can tell your past self from 10 years ago, anything. So yeah, you do the math
because I didn't want to tell people how old you are on the podcast. If you could tell yourself
or tell yourself something from 10 years ago, what would you tell 10, 10 year, not 10 year old
to you, but you know what I'm 10 year before you, it's hard because I would probably tell them about
everything that happened. I would get out of a certain relationship sooner and say, you know what?
Like, or tell them like, Hey, don't waste your time with this sort of thing. And from your
future self and where you'd be sitting at, you'd be better off going this direction with things
instead of wasting your time over in this other area pretty much. Like one of the things and I'll
elaborate one of the things I would say is I know you want to go to flight school and things like
that. That's not going to work out the first time. And it's going to cause you some problems. So
do yourself a favor, go ahead and get into it. Don't go and follow certain people
into the IT field, but go ahead and start getting your certifications. Because if I would have done
that when I first got out of high school and things like that, at this point, it would be like
this career. And of course you're sitting here going to hindsight, but if I had to tell myself
anything, it'd be like, man, you'll make the boo-coos later to be able to fly, you know, but
just set yourself up now to make that happen. I think I would tell kind of like you said, I think
I would tell my past self, hey, like get out of these certain relationships. Don't let certain
people come between your friendship with you and Micah. I would say don't let the job dictate
your time off. Like don't kill yourself for the job that you're working now. I would definitely
tell myself to get out of the law enforcement path and to start on the ministry path.
Again, like I think the biggest one would be like, hey, this relationship that you're in is not good
for you and you need to get out of it right now because you're going to waste years of heartache
and trauma and all that stuff and you don't want to do that. And so I think I would tell
past self, hey, you know what? You just need to worry about going to school, get an apartment
with Micah, hang out, enjoy these years. Like don't spend your early 20s just working away or
caring about all this stuff. Like have fun. Like you're in your early 20s. I don't feel like I ever
really got to quote unquote have fun in my early 20s. And you know, if it all would have worked
out, you know, I think even if it would have been just South Plains or whatever, that is one thing.
It's like just go to school, go to college and not just necessarily for the degree, right?
At this day and age, as bad as it is, I think degrees are kind of worthless because everybody's
got them. It's all about experience. That's what's that's what's getting people jobs. And so I wouldn't
necessarily say go for the degree, but go for the fun. Like college is supposed to be a fun time,
right? You go and do classes and stuff. And I did have some fun in college, like with the people
and things like that. I think if I would have balanced it a little bit better with my classes,
I would have enjoyed it a lot more. But at the same time, I was in a bad relationship, you know,
there's all sorts of crap going on. And so it's like, if we could have a redo to where it's like,
you and I got to hang out, we were just, you know, we had an apartment together and
chilled for a few years went to college, whatnot, I think it would have been a good time. Yeah,
I think I would have. I think I also would have let them know like, hey, like, you don't have much
time left with your dad. Make sure you make sure you spend that time with him and ask him all the
questions you want to ask him and all that good stuff. You know, it's wild though. Thinking about
this prompt and we'll wrap it up. But thinking about this prompt, it's what's weird about it is,
I'm not 100% sure even if I went back future self, I've improved it to myself from the past of like,
hey, this is me from the future 10 years from now, you know, it's 2024, you prove all that stuff.
I'm not even 100% sure that 10 years ago, me would have listened, even though I'm
telling you straight up. That's what I was going to ask you. I was like, do you think I would
listen? I don't know. That's a hard one, but I'm not 100% certain I would have. I probably
have been like, you'll know what you're talking about. Yeah, probably like, oh, you don't know
anything. You're stupid. It's going to all work out. You're like, bro, I'm from the future. I'm
telling you, it's not going to work out. It's like, I've already seen the path before you for the next
10 years. Don't don't do certain things. But you know, me back then, I was so full of pride and so
full ego to the point where it's like, oh, yeah, well, I'll make it work. Even if it didn't work
for you, you're, you know, I'll make it work kind of thing. Oh yeah, I was that way too,
bro. I was, again, I was so full of pride and ego and you think you are. Oh yeah, you think you're
invincible and you think you know everything and you think you're Iron Man and none of it's true.
So anyways, man, but that was a fun episode. A lot of good prompts. You got to love AI for
throwing some curveballs in there. Some of them I wasn't expecting. Some of them were a little
generic and like, okay, I can, you know, it's pretty easy, but some of them really made me think.
So for sure. Well, tell them where they can go for all the socials and funding all the stuff.
At the trash can network. It's at the trash can network. Man, trash can network is building and
booming. We are just short of having our record number of subscribers. And man, I'm just, I'm
really happy with how that's booming. If you're into the aviation side of thing, you know, we got
the Aviator Society over on Instagram, that thing's booming as well and really growing. And I mean,
we're to the point now, you know, it's insane. I need really need to put this more on our TV
trash care or not TV trash can. Geez, I'm talking the old branding. Our trash can network Facebook
page, we pretty much have daily videos going out, whether it's on trash can network on YouTube,
or over on the Aviator Society. It's, I mean, it's pumping out some content. So if you haven't seen
it and you're interested, go ahead and go ahead and check it out and give us a like and a subscribe
over there. That would be great. And so yeah, man. Yeah, everybody can give us a check out,
except for my cousin, Steven, until he pays back my mom, pay back my mom, Steven. Yeah, Steven,
make me come over. I haven't cut a promo on him in a couple weeks. So I feel like it was time.
Don't make me come to old South Carolina and find you old Steven. Anyways, well, I think it's time
to sign off. I'm Chris and I'm like, and we built this donut box. This is the box we did.