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Well man, so I was reading this article, you know John Tapper from Bar Rescue?

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Yeah man, what about him?

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Well apparently he's suing this guy because this guy is going around impersonating John

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Tapper and showing up to places and pretending to be John Tapper and apparently this guy,

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not John Tapper himself but the guy that's impersonating him is like been attempting

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like sexual assaults and stuff and like really trying to treat women bad, yeah.

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Really really, so okay because at first I'm sitting here going John Tapper is going to

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sue this guy for being an impersonator.

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There's plenty of personators out there right?

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Like there's Trump impersonators, there's all sorts of impersonators out there and you

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know but okay that makes a lot more sense but continue.

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Well I was saying well these ladies and these women and these lawyers have been calling

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up John Tapper's office and being like hey that's you were suing you and John Tapper's

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like dude what are you talking about?

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I was literally filming in San Diego, there's no way I could have been in Miami.

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And so apparently I don't know if this guy is just strictly in Florida but he yeah he's

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been going around and so they found out this and now John Tapper is suing this guy and I

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look at the pictures and the guy like himself looks kind of like John Tapper but like once

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he like puts on all the you know the suit like all the garb and everything he does look

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like John Tapper and so I'm like like that's probably not a good look.

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Yeah that's probably pretty bad for the brand.

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Well how much did he say how much he's suing him for?

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No it just said that he was suing him.

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Hopefully that stops because that must be pretty bad I would hate for that to happen.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Well hi I'm Chris and I'm Micah and this is the Dona Fox Park.

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Well Chris it's another episode and here we are the Dona Fox podcast.

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How you doing this week man?

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Oh it's great it's like what they say in the song it's just another manic Monday.

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I think that's how it goes but yeah it's another Monday another great time.

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Yeah man another week another fun time.

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Man it's been pretty crazy I'm not gonna lie to you I'm pretty darn tired.

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It's been a grind especially like work wise and some of the other projects we got going

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on I don't know man it's been a lot but I'm excited for this episode we're gonna have

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a good time.

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I was watching a video and it was like those rising grind bros do you know those kind of

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people.

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Yo yeah the rising grind it was just making fun of them they're like yeah I wake up at

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4 30 every day to hit the gym and it's like if you woke up at 5 o'clock I woke up at

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3 30 if you woke up at 3 30 I woke up at 1 it's like and if you woke up at 1 it's like

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I didn't even go to sleep yet dude.

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And it's like those dudes be for real and I know several of them and it's like whoa.

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Yeah it's pretty crazy what funny is they actually spend so much time projecting that

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attitude to where they actually waste more time than be productive because they're trying

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so hard of like trying to keep that image up because that's all it is.

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Is it are they also the bros that are like yeah I was listening to this podcast or yeah

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I was doing this and it's like they're the ones that talk about leadership and about

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grinding but when it really comes down to it it's like you're doing more talking than

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actually doing stuff.

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When it comes down to it they're the biggest proponents of unwarranted advice.

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I feel like those are the people that come up to you and give you very unwarranted advice

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like advice you don't even ask for at all and they're like you know what you need to

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do you know what you need to do man you don't even need to do this you need to go to the

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gym bro you need to get you know what you look at a little flabby you look at a little

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flabby and they don't know anything about you so I think it's funny.

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Yeah interesting enough well this episode is going to be a little bit of a different

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episode we're going to try it out it's going to be a free flowing episode free forming

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so we are just going to keep the ball rolling and keep recording and whatever happens happens

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and I apologize in advance for anything I say or may not say there you go there's your

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discretion warning but I was watching cops and you know how I love to watch cops I think

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I've seen almost every episode.

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Yeah that's what I was about to say for those of you who don't know and I'll just I'll just

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break this out this man has probably seen every episode like I'm talking about I'm not

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talking about just new cops I'm talking about every phase of cops that there was for those

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of you who don't know would you call them phases or what would you call them?

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About my about my cops phase about wanting to be a police officer?

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No no no like like cops over time like the TV show like I feel like there was phases of

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the show like it was there was different timings of it I feel like it left and then kind of

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came back over yeah there was definitely like the early 2000s version of it and then they

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recently kind of updated it to be a little bit more modern of course there's different

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variations of the show cops like live PD and stuff but I feel like it kind of took a break

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maybe like 2008 to maybe 2016 and now is just kind of made a resurgence I feel like.

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Yeah for sure.

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But what were you saying about watching cops?

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So anyways and for those of you that don't know I used to want to be a police officer

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and I actually did a police internship program called the Explorers which we may or may not

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get into this episode of not this episode a different day but I watch it and like watching

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it now I have like clear eyes when I'm like oh yeah they're definitely just looking for

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something to get on the TV show because this this cop she was driving and she saw this

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guy who was clearly intoxicated he wasn't driving but he was walking down the street

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right so he was just literally walking and he was kind of stumbling and she stops him

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and is questioning him and is like oh yeah you're intoxicated and all that stuff and

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he's like yeah I'm just like trying to make it home and go home he was and she's like

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well did you lose your license and he was like yeah I lost my license to DUI and so

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I just walk everywhere now and she was like well she was like you're clearly not not safe

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to be on these streets and she was like she was like and the fortunately I couldn't I

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can't give you a ride home I can only give you a ride home if you were sober and I'm

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like okay well what help are you and then she was like yeah we're gonna throw you in

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the tank and you're gonna let you sober sober up and then you can go home and so like they

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put him in handcuffs and they like put him in the back of a police car and they take

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him to the jail I don't know if they actually charged him or arrested him but they take

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him to the jail so that he can sober up and I'm like why could you not take this guy home

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and let him sober up at home he clearly wasn't driving he wasn't endangering anyone except

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maybe himself and he wasn't on a busy highway so I don't understand why you were arrested.

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What's crazy to me is whenever they say oh we're gonna take you to the tank to sober

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you up that's what they mean like they take you to jail to sober up like that's what the

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tank is there is no like you know sobering up plays a whole you sober up and holding

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sale pretty much you know so I've never understood that either you know I've actually had a great

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uncle who went through something like that too like in real life he I mean I guess cops

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is real life too but like I mean this happened not on cops but he actually was drinking and

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did somewhat of the right thing was driving and realized you know what I'm too intoxicated

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to drive so he pulls over on the side of the road and similarly a cop like rolls up on

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him and wakes him up and says you can't be on the side of the road and so he for some

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reason my great uncle wants to grab like his bag for some reason and the cop freaks out

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and this was back in the baton days so he takes out his baton and hits him over the head

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with it and apparently they just pissed him off and so he beat up the cop and there was

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a whole story beyond that but same same thing with that like I don't understand so I understand

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being on the side of the road is dangerous like that sort of thing but in this sort of

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case walking down the like he wasn't like hurting anybody or like you know elbow and

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somebody in the head yeah and the thing is she kept she just kept saying like oh you

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have a drinking problem and you probably need to get some help for your drinking problem

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and it's like homie is like it's his choice to drink like yeah maybe homie does have a

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drinking problem at least he did the right thing license got taken but yeah well at least

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he did the right thing he got his license revoked he goes okay well if I'm gonna go drinking

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I'm gonna walk home from here on in so he walks everywhere okay well that's what sidewalks

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are for right you know and the thing is as long as he's not bothering anybody it'd have

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been different if they got a call and it's like there's a drunk guy harassing people

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or something right but they didn't yeah I've watched some cops episodes like that too there

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was similar one this was in New Mexico I don't know why have you noticed on their New Mexico

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cops like I'm not trying to call them out but on cops their extra profiling and trying

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to well that's cuz there's so many games there in their defense there's so many games in

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New Mexico so they gotta kind of be like on edge I feel well there was this dude who was

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just working on his car right and they roll up on him and they're like what are you doing

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he's and he tells him he's working on his car and I mean they were like seriously questioning

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him and the only reason that they got anything it wasn't even him like somebody was walking

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down the street they start questioning the guy on the street and hit the guy takes off

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running and that's the only reason that they got any footage so basically they're just

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going down the road just kind of point their finger in people's face see how they reacted

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until somebody ran yeah I don't like that man I don't like and you can definitely tell

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whenever they're just trying to show off or for the cops cameras bro I don't like that

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I don't like it at all man I just feel like it's messed up and I've always wondered like

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is it a deal in the video like in with the TV show that the footage they get can or cannot

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be used as evidence you know because it's on film so I mean I would imagine it is it's

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on film but my my question is like if it's not in the cops favor so if they're like if

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the video evidence actually shows that the cops were badgering someone or treating them

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unfairly because I've seen some ones where they like pull on like punching people went

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even when they got him down and it's like they tried to cut it out but you but you catch

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those glimpse of them it's like you can catch it come our so are they gonna submit that

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evidence evidence or they like oh no we can't submit it is it like a pick and choose or

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what you know I figure that that's probably where the defense attorney comes into play

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right I don't know you know everybody wants to rag on public defenders I really don't

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know how good or bad public defenders I'm sure based on area but you know I would imagine

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a defense attorney would say okay they were on cops let's see what the event was on cops

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because I mean if we're being honest most of the time you can go to that production company

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and get that a lot easier than you can get from the police department because I don't

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think the police department has control of like the footage from cops I think that's

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like more the TV company I wanted to share about the cops thing that I just saw I literally

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just saw it so that's why it was fresh on the film who bad boys yeah yeah we we've talked

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about the cops videos that we've made again we were ahead of our time we've made up the

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cops spoof videos I watched those recently and I was like man this was hilarious yeah

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you know shout out to Chris on the editing work back then for 13 years ago that was that

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was pretty good you know that was the cream of the crop on Final Cut Pro there I mean

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did we just film it on a cell phone is that what we know man if you if you remember I

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think it was that blue camcorder you had like the like the one that we bought when we were

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doing a Carlton's documentary yeah the little one that I bought for a hundred bucks yeah

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it was actually a pretty good yeah I think it was that one that we use for it and yeah

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I mean we've talked about this on the show too but we might as well go into it now that

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I've said something about it we were gonna film a documentary one something summer about

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this production company so it was we've talked about this here recently would you describe

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it Tyler Perry ask for the time or what would you describe this production company like

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yeah it was definitely was Tyler Perry asked he he was trying to do a lot of what Tyler

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Perry was doing with not like the whole media thing but with like the plays and writing

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the good stories and the TV shows and I was in a couple of his plays and I was in a couple

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of his TV shows so the nerdy token white boy was Chris's role and yeah did we ever did

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we share about that story about the play and how I got casted and all that I think I think

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we did I think we actually did well you know what screw it we're we're talking about random

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stuff if we didn't let's let's go into it so this guy Carlton had this production company

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and like Chris said he was a part of a lot of these things and one of the productions

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was about high school and Chris was casted as the nerd who snaps slash token white boy

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slash token white boy and I think his best moment so Chris loves to improv right and

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you know I was doing some tech things for this place so I had been to a few practices

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and some line run throughs things like that I think I even helped you run lines at one

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point because you didn't have many but you know you want to make sure that it was good

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so we we worked on it a little bit and there was one scene in particular to where this

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man it was a dance scene and it was supposed to be like and I don't know man it made everybody

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cackle so hard because Chris hops out there you gotta think everybody else is African

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American right and they all got rhythm so they all get out there and they dancing like

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they supposed to right and they they have good moves and everything and it here comes

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Chris and he wasn't really supposed to do much but he cuts out there and he starts

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white boy dancing you know what I'm talking about and oh my god I think there was there

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was all these ladies in the front row and they just died laughing well later on in that

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play Chris's character snaps because of course he's the token white boy and so he has a mental

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breakdown and a gun comes out and you know he kind of points to their body then he points

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it at himself and they kind of talk him down from it well the ladies in the front row I

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guess still couldn't get over Chris's dance moves or something I don't know they thought

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I was playing I was about to shoot some people they thought I was playing and they were cackling

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so hard I never I never forget that and that was only one time though it was interesting

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because there was multiple dates for that play of course you have you know a couple

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of times that you go through it with a few crowds and the other crowds were serious but

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like I just remember that one all them ladies were laughing at you so hard and it was a super

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serious scene and here's here's poor Chris poor in his heart so out there and pointing

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a fake gun at his head and here's these ladies just cackling I mean and they were laughing

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too yeah I was about to shoot my character was about to shoot himself and these ladies

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were cackling but yes I did I don't know what it was about me I was like you know what I'm

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gonna make this comedic I'm gonna make it because it was almost like a high school musical

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the whole number was the the one of the main characters he was trying to sing this song

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to woo this girl and everybody was in on it and my part was I was just supposed to be

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a spectator and just passing through and the and the song was horrible it was the number

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was horrible the choreographing was horrible but I was like man I gotta I gotta save this

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somehow I was like I gotta save it and I was like if I make it to me and they think that

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it's supposed to be funny my part's funny then it'll then it'll help the show and I

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guess it did because I got laughs all through shows so yes yes you did yes you did and yeah

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that was that was a very interesting time but do you think that in retrospect do you

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think they were laughing at me or laughing with me I mean I figured they were probably

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laughing at me but that's okay well I think it's a mix I think some people were laughing

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at you but then there were some people who knew that it was just a character laughing

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at you know and so they were laughing at the character not necessarily you but then there

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were some people that were just like like let's face it they're just gonna be some people

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like ah it's a goofy white boy and they're gonna laugh at you it's okay as long as I

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got laughs that's all I cared about yeah I think it was a I think it was a decent mix

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but yeah so we had that show we had a few other shows to a few other like plays that

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we were a part of another thing that happened man that we got to talk about was we went

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on this local Christian TV station and with Carlton for the production company and we

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had talked about them in the past as well these were the people that traveled across

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the country like put a cross on their back and traveled across the country and did like

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evangelism across the country then they settled over in Georgia and started a TV station and

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so we were there and so it's a husband and a wife I'm gonna let you talk about like just

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just briefly talk about Dorothy and Russell just to remind the listeners oh yeah they

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they fought on the air every night they I don't know like they had no structure to their

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show it was it was two simpletons running a TV show that's the well yes and you're just

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like what no like what is going on so so the intentions were good like they had you know

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the typical TV the Christian TV station right where the call this number for a prayer line

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but they were largely based on volunteers I remember having to volunteer so pretty much

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if you show up and you're not doing something like you're not going to be on the air or

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you're not going to be talking with Dorothy and Russell on television they're gonna put

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you to work like they're gonna be like hey can you answer phones can you do I even heard

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somebody they were like hey can you run camera one night because they were short a camera

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guy like it was it's one of those type things but anyways we we went and we were filming

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because Carlton at the time had gotten a connection with a local TV station and he wanted they

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were I think they had said oh yeah we're gonna put a spot it was like what 1 or 2 a.m. or

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something like that and it was like put put together a little thing I'm thinking back

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at this right like from the retrospect of being an adult of what the ask was we were

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so off the mark of what we thought the ask was I think about this a water 2 a.m. spot

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for a production company largely African-American production company right for plays and dramas

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like Tyler Perry s anyways we we film at Dorothy and Russell's TV show the best part about

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this is we caught some absolute gold at Dorothy and Russell's spot Christopher what did we

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catch on film which I still wish we had the film of Russell unintentionally was racist

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and I don't remember where it came up but Carlton was comparing himself to the Amish

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in some way shape or form and Russell was like oh well in your case it would be hood

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on this and we were just like like okay why cuz he's black and we were just like and Carlton

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was mad and he said something under his breath and we were just like and he said that he didn't

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but we had it on film that's again why I wish we had the film but going back to what I was

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saying before all that to say this we were so far off the ask we we'd film things like

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okay he has been on the TV show you know we're filming some different things for the play

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but what the main bit of like narration that we were going to do Chris I think I was in

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the eighth grade you were going into ninth grade that summer was that yeah so we go up

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to the church and we say okay we're gonna film this thing and this church had a big warehouse

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with and there was a desk and chair and so I remember I wore a suit and it was really

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hot too and I wore a suit and we went up against the just just the plain metal background right

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it was just the metal like corrugated metal wall behind us and I just remember like standing

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up and then like sitting on the desk and trying to do this like documentary as look I don't

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even remember what I said but could you imagine I don't even remember how it looked but I can

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only imagine like thinking back that probably looked terrible I think about that oh yeah

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yeah it was it it did not turn out good and something happened and I didn't and I didn't

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end up using the footage or something happened and I don't remember what what happened yeah

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I'm kind of glad that we didn't let that footage see the light of day unintentionally but yeah

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then there's some other like footage that's out there of other videos that it's like man

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wish that wasn't still out there you know what we haven't told them about we haven't

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and I wish that I could find this footage but my senior project I had I was in film

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class and what looking back on it I wish I would have taken more film classes but I was

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in technically the class was the morning news so like they of course most I don't know if

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they still do this but most high schools have a morning news show and I went to a fine art

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school where you know that was like one of the things was production film production

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and so it used to be really good like the morning show and the morning announcements used to

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be really good like when I went there but it had fallen off so badly and the way it worked

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is if you had that as your homeroom you would produce the show and different people would

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do all that stuff be on the show and then the first period the first hour of school

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you would be in the class and what the class was supposed to be was supposed to be you

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working on the show so that it could get good but come to find out that the film director

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all he cared about really was entering and winning the most videos or shorts for film

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festival in the state and so all of his classes it didn't matter if it was script writing

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it didn't matter if it was just AV one on one all everybody had to do submissions right

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so that class was not was not what it was purpose for and so I was actually the producer

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of the morning show and I didn't know what I was doing I think he just put me in charge

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because I was a senior and I was the only one who had some kind of leadership abilities

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but our project was was to do I guess it was more like a documentary style type project

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and so I decided that I was going to do my documentary style project on this this friend

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that we had what should we call him I think I'm going to call him Jimmy that's what I'm

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going to call him because that's because that's the nickname of his okay Jimmy that's fine

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but I'm going to call him Jimmy and so Jimmy was a police officer at the time and I was

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like okay I'm going to do this profile on Jimmy right so I go to the house I get to interview

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all that good stuff right I had some really good interview footage like of him I got interview

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footage of his wife I got interview footage of his sons like it was great but there's

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a term in the industry called B role so you don't want just one shot of a person talking

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the whole time you want to like switch it up between like action shots like as they're

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talking and stuff so I didn't have enough action shots and me and Micah are always like wanting

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to do the cinematic we wanted you know we have these big productions in our mind and

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so I was like man you know what would really spice this thing up if we had a car chase

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in this month now I knew that my friend Jimmy was not going to agree to stage a fake car

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chase I knew he wasn't going to do that so I took it upon myself and and incorporated

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the help of Micah for us to stage this fake police car chase so do you want to tell him

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about the fake police car chase that we put in my film festival video?

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First off Chris had you've probably heard or if you've seen the cops videos that we're

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referring to Chris had a white Buick and it looked like a cop car like I mean I don't

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know even when you were driving on the highway people would even kind of it kind of I don't

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know how to describe it it looked like a 90s cop car just the way it was shaped yeah so

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like they used to have the old Ford Crown Victorias they don't have those anymore most

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places don't they upgraded to chargers or toruses or whatever or even now they're like SUVs

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most places SUVs yeah in Texas for sure but in in the early 2000s of course they still

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had the Ford Crown Victorias and that's what most of the police department still used even

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even at that time when I filmed this because this was like 2012 2012 2013 and so I was

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like okay like we can get the feel of this cop car deal we'll film it in my car and we'll

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we'll have and Micah's truck it looked like a beat up old truck that people would get

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in a car chase with yeah because if you've ever seen car chase footage for whatever reason

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it's never like an overly nice vehicle right it's always kind of a half beat thing and

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sometimes you're even sitting here thinking why did you try to get into a chase with this

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thing this thing is terrible but anyways it was in a zuzu pickup truck that I paid $650

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for and I remember the plan was there was an elementary school and kind of the way that

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the street in front of my neighborhood went there was a hill and at the top of the hill

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was the elementary school and then you come down the hill and like you take a left turn

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and it's into my neighborhood so what we did we said we're gonna go up to the top of the

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hill and something else about this truck this truck was very very bad Chris will tell you

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it probably couldn't go over 60 like 60 miles an hour it was just really really bad and

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it was very slow so of course doing a high speed pursuit in a very slow vehicle is not

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great also we tried to stay within the means of the law as much as possible so what we

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figured is we'll go up to the elementary school we'll ride downhill right we'll use all that

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momentum it'll look like we're going fast it'll also be at night then I'll whip into

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my neighborhood and we made sure because you could see all the way down the road if the

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road was clear enough for us to do all this so we made sure the road was clear we said

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go we started filming and we rolled down the hill and went into the neighborhood and right

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when you get in the neighborhood there's a big grassy patch with a curb and I said okay

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what I'm gonna do is you know I'm gonna let it ride a little quicker and I'm gonna hit

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that curb and the best part about that truck the suspension was all messed up too so the

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moment I hit that curb it really looked like I slammed into the curb but what was the beauty

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of that whole scene we weren't going that fast but what what did it Chris okay so again

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like you said we had a time this to make sure no cars were coming because also too we had

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to make sure that we could turn on to take a right out of the elementary school and that

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we weren't gonna get caught in traffic right and also take a left into the neighborhood

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so we had I think we had to do it a couple of times so I was the driver in my car and

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then our friend Taylor he was the camera holder but he was also pretending to be Jimmy but

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the voices didn't match up and I'm sure that they could tell that on the video which is

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probably why it didn't get any higher than the county level so so we go and as soon as

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like Micah hits the truck into the suspension the person that's supposed to be playing Jimmy

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is like suspect his crashed his vehicle suspect his crashed his vehicle so I like my car had

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a column shift and so that's kind of the thing in cops videos where they like put the brakes

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and put it in the park real quick and so I put it in a whip themselves out of the door

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real fast too they open the door and they're already half out the door by the time they

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are putting that column shift into part exactly and so then we we were like as soon as I opened

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the door Micah I was like you're gonna take off right so it's night so you can't really

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see where he's taking off into he just goes out of view of the camera and so like we had

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to do this a couple times but he like bolts out and then that's where like it cuts and

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then it goes like that was the opening sequence sequence of my film thing and so what I did

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was was I took the footage and I sped it up to make it look like it was we were going

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faster than what we really were and then I also put like a blue tint to it and put police

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sound effects in it so it made it look like we had the lights going on and it was it was

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good it was good it was some good it was really good but I think the the adults could tell

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that it was not not real and what I should have done looking back I should have put this

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is a dramatization of events that took place in April due to court cases we cannot show

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the actual footage right yeah some some BS or something some disclaimer at the beginning

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of it and so then I go into like hey like this is what about being a police officer

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is all that good stuff and looking back on it mean I could have put more work into it

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because watching it and I was like yeah bro like this doesn't uh this this has no continuity

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with it at all so I was like ooh I get to make a documentary and I get a cool camera

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I get to take equipment home I was like let's go yeah but I mean it's also it's also high

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school and you also had a limited time to do it right and I was also checked out at that

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point because I was a senior and I was just like I was checked out and this was probably

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and I want to say March of that year and so I think I had already gotten accepted into

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Texas Tech and I was just like yeah bro peace out oh something else to speak enough because

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a lot of kids went on a spring break I was I was talking to some people out here in Texas

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they couldn't believe it out where we lived in Georgia spring break wasn't until like

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mid April like first second week in April of the Masters golf but just thinking about

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that though like that's that's insane because we would I just remember and thinking about

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it now having spring break and then like the week we came back it was always standardized

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testing like the week we came back from spring break oh yeah and then after standardized

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tech testing you don't get anything done for the rest of the year and so you're pretty

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much done so yeah so it was really quick because I remember spring break when I got to like

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be a junior spring break and then like a week the week after spring break was prom and it

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was like bro like holy guacamole and then it was like oh yeah time to be out for the

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summer I couldn't imagine doing it now because these poor kids I don't know how it is in

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the rest of the country these poor kids in Texas man they like they have star tests and

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standardized testing out the wazoo like they they're always taking some kind of standardized

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tests like throughout the year and it's it's a lot it's a lot but yeah I mean we did too

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man if you think about it I know there was one year that I took three in one year it

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was like that there was the tax test there was another test and then I remember having

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to take the pre SAT the PSAT or whatever they like administered it in school so it was like

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three standardized tests in a row it was it was just miserable oh yeah they're always

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taking some kind of they call them map tests which is like I think it's prep for the star

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test but they're taking those like once every three weeks or once every six weeks they're

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always taking some kind of standardized tests it's not like a oh we learned this in school

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and in our in our class it's like a county wide standardized or some kind of bench I

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guess it's a benchmark test I don't know bro I used to hate when they started incorporating

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those yeah I tell you this much standardized testing period I am not a big fan of you know

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that's that's the least thing that a kid wants to do I don't care who they are it's such a

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corporate cold process like do you remember how standardized testing like it's such a

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miserable experience the only good part about standardized testing is if you get done early

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you get to sleep potentially if your teacher's cool like that was the only thing that was

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cool about it or you get to draw or have some free time after it's done like I don't remember

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anything being good I used to hate standardized testing everything about it oh yeah and and

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again like like I said it's gotten it's gotten worse now and I feel bad for the kids because

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the kids are like under so much pressure like we were kind of for like to pass our CRCTs

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but like but now dude like I'm telling you like they get super anxious and it's not just

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one week it's like multiple weeks of testing and in some school districts like the teachers

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get a bonus if a lot of their kids pass or a certain number of the kids pass and then

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it's financial stress on the teacher so the teachers like man I gotta get these kids to

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the pat like it's it's just oh yeah there's a whole there's a whole thing so my wife is

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in education and there's a whole thing about that it's you know the it's all about the

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good test scores are rewarded the bad test scores are not rewarded budgetary wise that's

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why it's like the good school districts are the good school districts and they stay that

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way and the bad school districts stay the bad school districts is because they don't get

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any money because their test scores are so low and it's like it's a bad cycle it's a

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bad system to not to like be boring but and I'll change this up to care a little bit but

402
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:53,320
I don't know if you when you voted or if you voted in the midterms in March or whatever

403
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:59,000
but one of the things was I don't know if it was you had to vote but here in our city

404
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:07,200
we had to vote whether you wanted the option for parents would be able to choose what school

405
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:14,040
their kid could go to regardless of zoning and then it was like regardless of zoning

406
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:20,400
and the funding will follow my kid and it was like that well that sucks for the kids that

407
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:26,880
are in the bad schools because it's like they don't get no funding either so no that's what

408
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:33,400
makes it worse that's what makes it worse it's things like that again if you you know it's

409
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,760
already happening right it's there it's that's a whole we could do a whole episode just on

410
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:45,360
that how broken our education system is but it's it's pretty it's pretty bad on that front

411
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:53,480
um yeah um on more funny note do you remember the time that I let a walk out on we didn't

412
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,080
go to the same school but do you remember me telling you about getting in trouble because

413
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:03,240
I let a walk out against the CRCT and let a picket line wouldn't go within 100 feet of

414
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:08,400
the school even though it was within 100 feet when I was picketing and um yeah that didn't

415
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,880
last long they just carried us inside but I got like two or three kids to follow along

416
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:19,240
with us what were you like seven no I was let's see fourth grade the second time around

417
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:25,200
reason reason I didn't want to do it is because I found out because okay I went to fourth grade

418
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:31,720
two times yes I failed the fourth grade and the first time I went around um we were told

419
00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:36,640
the standardized test that we took at the time it was the CRCT I used to be able to remember

420
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,680
what it stood for because they beat it into our heads it's like the course curriculum

421
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:47,520
reading uh the critical reading competency test was it reading critical reading and competency

422
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:58,160
yeah okay anyways so we had that and I remember certain years if it was like if you passed

423
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:03,280
reading and math then that was what made you go to the next grade but if you failed it you

424
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:08,600
know you failed the grade like you could have passing grades but if you failed the CRCT then

425
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,800
you'd have to stay a grade um and I remember that was third and fifth grade so fourth didn't

426
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,880
count so I'm sitting here going why in the heck are we taking this test if it doesn't

427
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:22,240
count so I convinced a bunch of other kids like hey it doesn't actually count we might

428
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:25,560
as well just walk out of this thing and I don't know I remember seeing something on

429
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:31,120
TV about like leading a walk out against a test and so I just remember it was like school

430
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:38,320
was about to start and we were all in the very very front and you know the bell rings it's

431
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,560
time to go inside and we went right out the front door me and three other people and

432
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:49,960
we had made signs with printer paper and rulers and it said something like no test or I think

433
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:58,600
mine had like a test with like a big like circle with a cross through it and we like

434
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,600
stood outside and we're like we're not going to take the test and they just like brought

435
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:08,120
us inside and made us take the test in fact they like brought us into a separate room

436
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:13,720
like the three of us and had extra supervision on us that's hilarious maybe watch that boy

437
00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:18,920
meets at boy meets world episode when Sean and Corey walked out on the test because

438
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:26,640
that sounds vaguely familiar because that was one of the maybe so where Mr. Turner

439
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:32,240
promised them that if they read the book that and they had a discussion in class about it

440
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:37,800
that they wouldn't have to take the test but then Mr. Feeney made Mr. Turner give them

441
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:45,040
the test anyways so Corey and Sean like like and they got the whole like they got the whole

442
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:50,520
grade to not try to take the test so that was a little bit different.

443
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,880
Yeah I wasn't as successful as that that would have been great if I had the whole fourth grade

444
00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:01,080
out front with me but no that didn't work like that just just a few just a few.

445
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:09,040
Yeah yeah you got in trouble for a couple a few things at school some of them we can't

446
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,200
say because they are not appropriate.

447
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:18,480
Yeah telling a kid to do something themselves.

448
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:24,880
Well listen he called me he called me something and so you know what the Michael Jackson trial

449
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,160
was going on so I made a Michael Jackson reference on his behalf.

450
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,880
Hey man it happens bro it happens for real.

451
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:33,880
Yeah.

452
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:34,880
Testered.

453
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:35,880
Yeah.

454
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:36,880
Crazy.

455
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,040
Oh I know what I was going to say.

456
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,440
So we I know you had to do this too.

457
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:50,680
Since I went to a fine art school we would we would get to choose advanced placement classes

458
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:57,120
and the benefit was that since we didn't have sports we got funding to for the school to

459
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:04,760
pay for our AP test that we took and I know at your school you had to pay for any AP test

460
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,760
that you took right.

461
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,720
Yep and it was like two hundred dollars a pop.

462
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:15,360
So one year I was in three AP classes so it would have been like six hundred dollars to

463
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,800
take all the AP tests.

464
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:22,360
Yeah and the reason why you want to take the AP test is that's the only way that you can

465
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:27,240
get college credit for the course that you took so you can take so you can basically

466
00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:29,280
get like dual credit right.

467
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,080
You can knock out some of your basics early but in order to do that you have to take the

468
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,040
advanced placement test right.

469
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:40,680
And so there was I don't remember it wasn't in my class but I think it was an AP English

470
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:48,120
test and one of these guys that we knew he absolutely refused to take the test and I

471
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,560
just remember like the assistant principal and like everybody.

472
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,760
Oh you're talking about Oh Kami J. Kami J. that's what we'll call him with his communist

473
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:57,760
manifest.

474
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,400
It was at that point that he started getting really weird with his communist ideals bro

475
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,560
and then he stopped showering and everything.

476
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:11,000
But anyways so yeah I remember the assistant principal like literally escorted him out of

477
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:16,080
the room and bro I think she was really upset and like understandably so because of like

478
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,880
the school is paying the money for you to take the test and you're just like no like

479
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,080
I'm not taking this test and it's like bro you were the one that chose to be in the class

480
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:31,280
like I don't know what you like what I think he wanted credit for the class without taking

481
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,760
the test which would line up with his communist ideas.

482
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:40,200
Yeah he got like it wasn't just like Kami ideals he got like pretentious ideals like

483
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,920
people owe me stuff for free kind of thing.

484
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,160
Yeah and I don't know what his deal was because he wasn't that popular with a kid.

485
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,240
He wasn't that good looking of a kid.

486
00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:53,520
I don't know where he got that entitlement from.

487
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:58,960
But this was also the same kid that when we were in the Six Flags line he tried to brag

488
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:04,200
about how many girlfriends he had and every every time we got like further up in the line

489
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,040
or we got on a different ride it was like Uncle John's fishing story.

490
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,480
It got more and more.

491
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:14,280
It was like at first it started was like yeah I've had two girlfriends at one time and then

492
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:19,280
as the day got on it was it got up to oh yeah I've had eight girlfriends at one time and

493
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,360
we were just like OK.

494
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,120
I was like and then did I mention Allison.

495
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,000
So I guess it's actually nine.

496
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,640
Yeah nine actually.

497
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,760
And the problem was is like we weren't we weren't like elementary school kids.

498
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,120
We were like juniors.

499
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,120
No we were we were like juniors seniors in high school here.

500
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,680
Like we could see right through this crap.

501
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,080
I can fact that was that was a running joke for a while.

502
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,440
It's like no no I've had like sevensies and eighties.

503
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,000
You know what actually nine I had nine.

504
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,160
And I don't know what the problem was because I'm like why are you trying to impress me

505
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,160
and Michael.

506
00:44:55,160 --> 00:45:00,120
We're not the people that you should be trying to impress like like we don't care.

507
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,080
Like I don't know why you're trying trying so hard to impress us.

508
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:08,960
I was going to say maybe he was he felt honored that he got invited to be part of our our

509
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,720
third gesture.

510
00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:13,640
I guess so I don't know inner circle.

511
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,360
I don't know.

512
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:20,000
Here's the thing though what people didn't understand was yeah you might be on the Six

513
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,400
Flags trip with us.

514
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,960
And yes we may be like a you want to.

515
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,840
But the thing is that's just because we're in a group and you're semi cool and we know

516
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,160
that we you're probably don't have anybody else to hang out with.

517
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,200
So you need to roll with somebody.

518
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,600
Yeah I don't know what it was about him but he was like yeah trying to impress us and

519
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,880
then he just got really weird like really really weird.

520
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,360
I don't know what his problem was though.

521
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,480
I blame his home life.

522
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:46,560
I don't know what's going on.

523
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,240
Oh you know what we need to finish off this episode with his last story.

524
00:45:50,240 --> 00:46:01,240
So the same guy O'comy J. Well he had a how do we put this anyways he had a family member

525
00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:05,960
who was a stepdad that was very close to him.

526
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,120
Not really close.

527
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:13,560
But he had a particular problem in his life.

528
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,520
He enjoyed the liquor a little bit too much.

529
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,480
In fact every time you'd see him he would smell a little bit.

530
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,880
That was you know great smelling like Jack all the time.

531
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:30,160
Anyways so Chris and I had our days of in the middle of the night we would prank call

532
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:35,000
places especially ones we would see on TV commercial wise right.

533
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,480
Impalmerials whatever right.

534
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,240
We would just screw with people.

535
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:44,400
Well one night there was one for a rehab center so I start dialing the rehab center and you

536
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:50,320
got to think Chris like how was it back then because I remember I wouldn't even tell you

537
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,920
what's going on sometimes I just start dial the number and just start going with this

538
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:55,920
character.

539
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:02,480
Like there was a few times it was Mike from Houston this time in particular for this guy

540
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:09,600
for O'comy J. Stepdad we called and I remember we were a pastor from somewhere and we were

541
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:15,840
trying to get a congregation member who's just been too much on the drink up there to Michigan

542
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,600
because it was in Michigan.

543
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:22,120
It's like up there in Michigan from Georgia we're looking to make the trip and brother

544
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:27,080
we're just looking for a price point and they're like well is he of his own volition like

545
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,520
does he want to come up here on his own it's like nope but we'll drag him kicking and screaming

546
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,520
his wife and kids and the Lord needs them to change.

547
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:40,840
I remember we just went on and on bro and then I think the worst part about it is I think

548
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,240
we even I even let a prayer at the end with the guy you remember.

549
00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:49,520
Oh yeah the the first red flag those people should have known is like no pastor is going

550
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:55,280
to be calling you at one or two in the morning about their congregation member like they had

551
00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:01,640
to know we were we were not being legit but I mean there is a happy ending the guy did

552
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:07,000
get cleaned up towards the end of his life he did end up passing away but he did I think

553
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,880
quit drinking and he did kind of get his act.

554
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:17,680
That is good that is good now it was mainly we used to prank call and you know whether

555
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,880
he knew or not that guy on the other end I don't know but they always played along that's

556
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,440
the thing there was never a prank call that I remember people actually calling us out

557
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:26,440
on.

558
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:33,120
Yeah but it's also too you have to think this was like in 2007 2008 so the people were

559
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:39,320
still believable like people still put trust in other people like if you told them something

560
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:44,320
people people would still believe it and if you're calling and you're you know you're

561
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:50,280
talking like that I mean we called a whole bunch of places we called hotels pretending

562
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:56,360
to be angry husbands and like is my wife staying there because I know she we would make up

563
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,880
these whole stories dude.

564
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:03,360
Make up these whole stories yeah you couldn't do that now well especially with caller ID

565
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:04,360
and stuff like that.

566
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:10,040
I think we told them too about when we would go to like the jewelry place because we were

567
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,920
bored and we would go to the jewelry places and we were pretend like because I looked

568
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:21,000
like I was probably three or four years older than what I really was and so I would tell

569
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,160
them that I was looking to get engaged and so we would just kind of string the salesman

570
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,760
along which is really messed up.

571
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:32,080
Yeah it was so bad and especially Chris and I became commissioned salesman later on at

572
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:37,720
boot corral and yeah we paid for it later but yeah bro what did we do.

573
00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:43,960
Our whole backstory was that I worked in the oil field which is why I had so much money

574
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:49,080
to spend and I was in town which made them perk up which made their ears perk up like

575
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,480
oh oil filled money.

576
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:56,200
Yeah and then I was in town looking for an engagement ring for my soon to be girlfriend

577
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,880
or soon to be wife sorry my girlfriend's soon to be wife and so we would just you know

578
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,680
kind of be like oh yeah let me and I don't know what it was I think it was the fact that

579
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:10,920
we would make up these stories so and we took it as so far as to go to the car dealership

580
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,840
and test drive some cars.

581
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,520
I don't I think they probably knew that we were you know giving them the run around they

582
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:18,520
had to know.

583
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:25,040
Oh man you weren't on that one I remember that was so Fat Cat and I used to do that

584
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:30,120
too you weren't there the time that we got them all the way down to like numbers we literally

585
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:37,320
sat in the dude's office for two hours crunching numbers and like yeah and walked away from

586
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:42,120
a sale that we were like just a few yeah it was it was really wrong.

587
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:48,040
Did you get him really bargaining down like did he really cut off a lot.

588
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:54,600
Yes so I'll never forget okay so I'm not gonna say the place but it was actually in a semi

589
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:59,920
affordable car like I mean I'm not talking sometimes we would drive brand new cars sometimes

590
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:05,000
we would go you know do do some crazy stuff right but this time it was there was this

591
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:12,080
Mazda Miata that we had seen from the road and we used to call it free fun because you'd

592
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:17,320
go in and have some fun you'd go test drive a car right and you're not spending any money

593
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:25,240
and anyways you're just spending somebody else's time anyways so that was so bad so we go to

594
00:51:25,240 --> 00:51:31,520
test drive this Miata and you know we test drive it everything's good so the original

595
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:37,960
asking price was $10,000 for this Miata and it was used but it was very very nice and

596
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:45,320
we got him worked down all the way to $6,500 and yeah bro and we kept we kept telling

597
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:50,640
them listen we need five five grand is where we're at and they're just like no we can't

598
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:55,520
do five they worked it all the way down to 65 and we still walked away because we needed

599
00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:03,480
it at five grand so messed up so I'm almost bought that car probably I'm telling you I

600
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:11,280
told Matt I told Matt or don't cut that part out I told fat cat listen man if like we when

601
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,680
the dealer actually walked out of the room I was halfway convinced you know I was like

602
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:21,280
listen if he goes to five if they come back and say five like I'll sign papers today I

603
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,840
had no credit but they were willing to work with that that's why I'll do it probably would

604
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:30,120
have been a stupid loan probably but same time it's just like if I would have had him

605
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,600
worked down to five yeah I probably would have bought that car that day and the moral

606
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:41,480
of the story is kids please with waiters salesmen all that good stuff don't screw around with

607
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:49,200
their time yeah we had yeah you'll have a profession later on or time is of the essence

608
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,720
or you need to make a sale or you need that money or something and somebody will come

609
00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:57,800
screw around with you to what's been a good episode man we kind of did a little bit different

610
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:04,360
just telling stories and having a fun time man but yeah last week in aviation go check

611
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:09,800
that out on YouTube just type in last week in aviation for all your aviation news if

612
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:14,040
you want to find out what's going on in that world I'm sure your people know a lot about

613
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:18,560
what's going on but it's always nice to like have an opinion and to listen to what other

614
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:24,440
people are talking about in the world of whatever it is that you're interested in so yeah y'all

615
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:30,040
go check that YouTube video out yeah there's a lot of people in the comments that are leaving

616
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some some feedback a lot of people don't like Boeing right now and a very interesting opinion

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before we leave to a lot of people and I'm not I'm gonna spare you what's all going on

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with Boeing basically they're in a lot of hot water because they are paying a lot of

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attention to safety and skimping on quality and safety so a lot of people are saying that

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it's not just Boeing that's the modern day corporation is everybody skimping on safety

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it's just we haven't found out about it yet and that's the way that our world works nowadays

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that nobody's thinking about the consumer just the bottom line in the dollar and everything

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shifted to that and nobody's really safe in the end yeah man well cool deal well tell

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them where to go find us oh man that's at the trash can network trash can network so

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just at trash can network over on Instagram Facebook YouTube you know we really appreciate

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you from wherever you're listening from how are you listening to us we got so many means

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and man come check us out we really appreciate you last week in aviation don't a box podcast

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yeah well it's time to take this out to the trash I'm Chris and I'm like a and this has

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been the Donut Box podcast to the Starship

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it's just another Sunday