Well man, so I was reading this article, you know John Tapper from Bar Rescue?
Yeah man, what about him?
Well apparently he's suing this guy because this guy is going around impersonating John
Tapper and showing up to places and pretending to be John Tapper and apparently this guy,
not John Tapper himself but the guy that's impersonating him is like been attempting
like sexual assaults and stuff and like really trying to treat women bad, yeah.
Really really, so okay because at first I'm sitting here going John Tapper is going to
sue this guy for being an impersonator.
There's plenty of personators out there right?
Like there's Trump impersonators, there's all sorts of impersonators out there and you
know but okay that makes a lot more sense but continue.
Well I was saying well these ladies and these women and these lawyers have been calling
up John Tapper's office and being like hey that's you were suing you and John Tapper's
like dude what are you talking about?
I was literally filming in San Diego, there's no way I could have been in Miami.
And so apparently I don't know if this guy is just strictly in Florida but he yeah he's
been going around and so they found out this and now John Tapper is suing this guy and I
look at the pictures and the guy like himself looks kind of like John Tapper but like once
he like puts on all the you know the suit like all the garb and everything he does look
like John Tapper and so I'm like like that's probably not a good look.
Yeah that's probably pretty bad for the brand.
Well how much did he say how much he's suing him for?
No it just said that he was suing him.
Hopefully that stops because that must be pretty bad I would hate for that to happen.
Yeah, exactly.
Well hi I'm Chris and I'm Micah and this is the Dona Fox Park.
Well Chris it's another episode and here we are the Dona Fox podcast.
How you doing this week man?
Oh it's great it's like what they say in the song it's just another manic Monday.
I think that's how it goes but yeah it's another Monday another great time.
Yeah man another week another fun time.
Man it's been pretty crazy I'm not gonna lie to you I'm pretty darn tired.
It's been a grind especially like work wise and some of the other projects we got going
on I don't know man it's been a lot but I'm excited for this episode we're gonna have
a good time.
I was watching a video and it was like those rising grind bros do you know those kind of
people.
Yo yeah the rising grind it was just making fun of them they're like yeah I wake up at
4 30 every day to hit the gym and it's like if you woke up at 5 o'clock I woke up at
3 30 if you woke up at 3 30 I woke up at 1 it's like and if you woke up at 1 it's like
I didn't even go to sleep yet dude.
And it's like those dudes be for real and I know several of them and it's like whoa.
Yeah it's pretty crazy what funny is they actually spend so much time projecting that
attitude to where they actually waste more time than be productive because they're trying
so hard of like trying to keep that image up because that's all it is.
Is it are they also the bros that are like yeah I was listening to this podcast or yeah
I was doing this and it's like they're the ones that talk about leadership and about
grinding but when it really comes down to it it's like you're doing more talking than
actually doing stuff.
When it comes down to it they're the biggest proponents of unwarranted advice.
I feel like those are the people that come up to you and give you very unwarranted advice
like advice you don't even ask for at all and they're like you know what you need to
do you know what you need to do man you don't even need to do this you need to go to the
gym bro you need to get you know what you look at a little flabby you look at a little
flabby and they don't know anything about you so I think it's funny.
Yeah interesting enough well this episode is going to be a little bit of a different
episode we're going to try it out it's going to be a free flowing episode free forming
so we are just going to keep the ball rolling and keep recording and whatever happens happens
and I apologize in advance for anything I say or may not say there you go there's your
discretion warning but I was watching cops and you know how I love to watch cops I think
I've seen almost every episode.
Yeah that's what I was about to say for those of you who don't know and I'll just I'll just
break this out this man has probably seen every episode like I'm talking about I'm not
talking about just new cops I'm talking about every phase of cops that there was for those
of you who don't know would you call them phases or what would you call them?
About my about my cops phase about wanting to be a police officer?
No no no like like cops over time like the TV show like I feel like there was phases of
the show like it was there was different timings of it I feel like it left and then kind of
came back over yeah there was definitely like the early 2000s version of it and then they
recently kind of updated it to be a little bit more modern of course there's different
variations of the show cops like live PD and stuff but I feel like it kind of took a break
maybe like 2008 to maybe 2016 and now is just kind of made a resurgence I feel like.
Yeah for sure.
But what were you saying about watching cops?
So anyways and for those of you that don't know I used to want to be a police officer
and I actually did a police internship program called the Explorers which we may or may not
get into this episode of not this episode a different day but I watch it and like watching
it now I have like clear eyes when I'm like oh yeah they're definitely just looking for
something to get on the TV show because this this cop she was driving and she saw this
guy who was clearly intoxicated he wasn't driving but he was walking down the street
right so he was just literally walking and he was kind of stumbling and she stops him
and is questioning him and is like oh yeah you're intoxicated and all that stuff and
he's like yeah I'm just like trying to make it home and go home he was and she's like
well did you lose your license and he was like yeah I lost my license to DUI and so
I just walk everywhere now and she was like well she was like you're clearly not not safe
to be on these streets and she was like she was like and the fortunately I couldn't I
can't give you a ride home I can only give you a ride home if you were sober and I'm
like okay well what help are you and then she was like yeah we're gonna throw you in
the tank and you're gonna let you sober sober up and then you can go home and so like they
put him in handcuffs and they like put him in the back of a police car and they take
him to the jail I don't know if they actually charged him or arrested him but they take
him to the jail so that he can sober up and I'm like why could you not take this guy home
and let him sober up at home he clearly wasn't driving he wasn't endangering anyone except
maybe himself and he wasn't on a busy highway so I don't understand why you were arrested.
What's crazy to me is whenever they say oh we're gonna take you to the tank to sober
you up that's what they mean like they take you to jail to sober up like that's what the
tank is there is no like you know sobering up plays a whole you sober up and holding
sale pretty much you know so I've never understood that either you know I've actually had a great
uncle who went through something like that too like in real life he I mean I guess cops
is real life too but like I mean this happened not on cops but he actually was drinking and
did somewhat of the right thing was driving and realized you know what I'm too intoxicated
to drive so he pulls over on the side of the road and similarly a cop like rolls up on
him and wakes him up and says you can't be on the side of the road and so he for some
reason my great uncle wants to grab like his bag for some reason and the cop freaks out
and this was back in the baton days so he takes out his baton and hits him over the head
with it and apparently they just pissed him off and so he beat up the cop and there was
a whole story beyond that but same same thing with that like I don't understand so I understand
being on the side of the road is dangerous like that sort of thing but in this sort of
case walking down the like he wasn't like hurting anybody or like you know elbow and
somebody in the head yeah and the thing is she kept she just kept saying like oh you
have a drinking problem and you probably need to get some help for your drinking problem
and it's like homie is like it's his choice to drink like yeah maybe homie does have a
drinking problem at least he did the right thing license got taken but yeah well at least
he did the right thing he got his license revoked he goes okay well if I'm gonna go drinking
I'm gonna walk home from here on in so he walks everywhere okay well that's what sidewalks
are for right you know and the thing is as long as he's not bothering anybody it'd have
been different if they got a call and it's like there's a drunk guy harassing people
or something right but they didn't yeah I've watched some cops episodes like that too there
was similar one this was in New Mexico I don't know why have you noticed on their New Mexico
cops like I'm not trying to call them out but on cops their extra profiling and trying
to well that's cuz there's so many games there in their defense there's so many games in
New Mexico so they gotta kind of be like on edge I feel well there was this dude who was
just working on his car right and they roll up on him and they're like what are you doing
he's and he tells him he's working on his car and I mean they were like seriously questioning
him and the only reason that they got anything it wasn't even him like somebody was walking
down the street they start questioning the guy on the street and hit the guy takes off
running and that's the only reason that they got any footage so basically they're just
going down the road just kind of point their finger in people's face see how they reacted
until somebody ran yeah I don't like that man I don't like and you can definitely tell
whenever they're just trying to show off or for the cops cameras bro I don't like that
I don't like it at all man I just feel like it's messed up and I've always wondered like
is it a deal in the video like in with the TV show that the footage they get can or cannot
be used as evidence you know because it's on film so I mean I would imagine it is it's
on film but my my question is like if it's not in the cops favor so if they're like if
the video evidence actually shows that the cops were badgering someone or treating them
unfairly because I've seen some ones where they like pull on like punching people went
even when they got him down and it's like they tried to cut it out but you but you catch
those glimpse of them it's like you can catch it come our so are they gonna submit that
evidence evidence or they like oh no we can't submit it is it like a pick and choose or
what you know I figure that that's probably where the defense attorney comes into play
right I don't know you know everybody wants to rag on public defenders I really don't
know how good or bad public defenders I'm sure based on area but you know I would imagine
a defense attorney would say okay they were on cops let's see what the event was on cops
because I mean if we're being honest most of the time you can go to that production company
and get that a lot easier than you can get from the police department because I don't
think the police department has control of like the footage from cops I think that's
like more the TV company I wanted to share about the cops thing that I just saw I literally
just saw it so that's why it was fresh on the film who bad boys yeah yeah we we've talked
about the cops videos that we've made again we were ahead of our time we've made up the
cops spoof videos I watched those recently and I was like man this was hilarious yeah
you know shout out to Chris on the editing work back then for 13 years ago that was that
was pretty good you know that was the cream of the crop on Final Cut Pro there I mean
did we just film it on a cell phone is that what we know man if you if you remember I
think it was that blue camcorder you had like the like the one that we bought when we were
doing a Carlton's documentary yeah the little one that I bought for a hundred bucks yeah
it was actually a pretty good yeah I think it was that one that we use for it and yeah
I mean we've talked about this on the show too but we might as well go into it now that
I've said something about it we were gonna film a documentary one something summer about
this production company so it was we've talked about this here recently would you describe
it Tyler Perry ask for the time or what would you describe this production company like
yeah it was definitely was Tyler Perry asked he he was trying to do a lot of what Tyler
Perry was doing with not like the whole media thing but with like the plays and writing
the good stories and the TV shows and I was in a couple of his plays and I was in a couple
of his TV shows so the nerdy token white boy was Chris's role and yeah did we ever did
we share about that story about the play and how I got casted and all that I think I think
we did I think we actually did well you know what screw it we're we're talking about random
stuff if we didn't let's let's go into it so this guy Carlton had this production company
and like Chris said he was a part of a lot of these things and one of the productions
was about high school and Chris was casted as the nerd who snaps slash token white boy
slash token white boy and I think his best moment so Chris loves to improv right and
you know I was doing some tech things for this place so I had been to a few practices
and some line run throughs things like that I think I even helped you run lines at one
point because you didn't have many but you know you want to make sure that it was good
so we we worked on it a little bit and there was one scene in particular to where this
man it was a dance scene and it was supposed to be like and I don't know man it made everybody
cackle so hard because Chris hops out there you gotta think everybody else is African
American right and they all got rhythm so they all get out there and they dancing like
they supposed to right and they they have good moves and everything and it here comes
Chris and he wasn't really supposed to do much but he cuts out there and he starts
white boy dancing you know what I'm talking about and oh my god I think there was there
was all these ladies in the front row and they just died laughing well later on in that
play Chris's character snaps because of course he's the token white boy and so he has a mental
breakdown and a gun comes out and you know he kind of points to their body then he points
it at himself and they kind of talk him down from it well the ladies in the front row I
guess still couldn't get over Chris's dance moves or something I don't know they thought
I was playing I was about to shoot some people they thought I was playing and they were cackling
so hard I never I never forget that and that was only one time though it was interesting
because there was multiple dates for that play of course you have you know a couple
of times that you go through it with a few crowds and the other crowds were serious but
like I just remember that one all them ladies were laughing at you so hard and it was a super
serious scene and here's here's poor Chris poor in his heart so out there and pointing
a fake gun at his head and here's these ladies just cackling I mean and they were laughing
too yeah I was about to shoot my character was about to shoot himself and these ladies
were cackling but yes I did I don't know what it was about me I was like you know what I'm
gonna make this comedic I'm gonna make it because it was almost like a high school musical
the whole number was the the one of the main characters he was trying to sing this song
to woo this girl and everybody was in on it and my part was I was just supposed to be
a spectator and just passing through and the and the song was horrible it was the number
was horrible the choreographing was horrible but I was like man I gotta I gotta save this
somehow I was like I gotta save it and I was like if I make it to me and they think that
it's supposed to be funny my part's funny then it'll then it'll help the show and I
guess it did because I got laughs all through shows so yes yes you did yes you did and yeah
that was that was a very interesting time but do you think that in retrospect do you
think they were laughing at me or laughing with me I mean I figured they were probably
laughing at me but that's okay well I think it's a mix I think some people were laughing
at you but then there were some people who knew that it was just a character laughing
at you know and so they were laughing at the character not necessarily you but then there
were some people that were just like like let's face it they're just gonna be some people
like ah it's a goofy white boy and they're gonna laugh at you it's okay as long as I
got laughs that's all I cared about yeah I think it was a I think it was a decent mix
but yeah so we had that show we had a few other shows to a few other like plays that
we were a part of another thing that happened man that we got to talk about was we went
on this local Christian TV station and with Carlton for the production company and we
had talked about them in the past as well these were the people that traveled across
the country like put a cross on their back and traveled across the country and did like
evangelism across the country then they settled over in Georgia and started a TV station and
so we were there and so it's a husband and a wife I'm gonna let you talk about like just
just briefly talk about Dorothy and Russell just to remind the listeners oh yeah they
they fought on the air every night they I don't know like they had no structure to their
show it was it was two simpletons running a TV show that's the well yes and you're just
like what no like what is going on so so the intentions were good like they had you know
the typical TV the Christian TV station right where the call this number for a prayer line
but they were largely based on volunteers I remember having to volunteer so pretty much
if you show up and you're not doing something like you're not going to be on the air or
you're not going to be talking with Dorothy and Russell on television they're gonna put
you to work like they're gonna be like hey can you answer phones can you do I even heard
somebody they were like hey can you run camera one night because they were short a camera
guy like it was it's one of those type things but anyways we we went and we were filming
because Carlton at the time had gotten a connection with a local TV station and he wanted they
were I think they had said oh yeah we're gonna put a spot it was like what 1 or 2 a.m. or
something like that and it was like put put together a little thing I'm thinking back
at this right like from the retrospect of being an adult of what the ask was we were
so off the mark of what we thought the ask was I think about this a water 2 a.m. spot
for a production company largely African-American production company right for plays and dramas
like Tyler Perry s anyways we we film at Dorothy and Russell's TV show the best part about
this is we caught some absolute gold at Dorothy and Russell's spot Christopher what did we
catch on film which I still wish we had the film of Russell unintentionally was racist
and I don't remember where it came up but Carlton was comparing himself to the Amish
in some way shape or form and Russell was like oh well in your case it would be hood
on this and we were just like like okay why cuz he's black and we were just like and Carlton
was mad and he said something under his breath and we were just like and he said that he didn't
but we had it on film that's again why I wish we had the film but going back to what I was
saying before all that to say this we were so far off the ask we we'd film things like
okay he has been on the TV show you know we're filming some different things for the play
but what the main bit of like narration that we were going to do Chris I think I was in
the eighth grade you were going into ninth grade that summer was that yeah so we go up
to the church and we say okay we're gonna film this thing and this church had a big warehouse
with and there was a desk and chair and so I remember I wore a suit and it was really
hot too and I wore a suit and we went up against the just just the plain metal background right
it was just the metal like corrugated metal wall behind us and I just remember like standing
up and then like sitting on the desk and trying to do this like documentary as look I don't
even remember what I said but could you imagine I don't even remember how it looked but I can
only imagine like thinking back that probably looked terrible I think about that oh yeah
yeah it was it it did not turn out good and something happened and I didn't and I didn't
end up using the footage or something happened and I don't remember what what happened yeah
I'm kind of glad that we didn't let that footage see the light of day unintentionally but yeah
then there's some other like footage that's out there of other videos that it's like man
wish that wasn't still out there you know what we haven't told them about we haven't
and I wish that I could find this footage but my senior project I had I was in film
class and what looking back on it I wish I would have taken more film classes but I was
in technically the class was the morning news so like they of course most I don't know if
they still do this but most high schools have a morning news show and I went to a fine art
school where you know that was like one of the things was production film production
and so it used to be really good like the morning show and the morning announcements used to
be really good like when I went there but it had fallen off so badly and the way it worked
is if you had that as your homeroom you would produce the show and different people would
do all that stuff be on the show and then the first period the first hour of school
you would be in the class and what the class was supposed to be was supposed to be you
working on the show so that it could get good but come to find out that the film director
all he cared about really was entering and winning the most videos or shorts for film
festival in the state and so all of his classes it didn't matter if it was script writing
it didn't matter if it was just AV one on one all everybody had to do submissions right
so that class was not was not what it was purpose for and so I was actually the producer
of the morning show and I didn't know what I was doing I think he just put me in charge
because I was a senior and I was the only one who had some kind of leadership abilities
but our project was was to do I guess it was more like a documentary style type project
and so I decided that I was going to do my documentary style project on this this friend
that we had what should we call him I think I'm going to call him Jimmy that's what I'm
going to call him because that's because that's the nickname of his okay Jimmy that's fine
but I'm going to call him Jimmy and so Jimmy was a police officer at the time and I was
like okay I'm going to do this profile on Jimmy right so I go to the house I get to interview
all that good stuff right I had some really good interview footage like of him I got interview
footage of his wife I got interview footage of his sons like it was great but there's
a term in the industry called B role so you don't want just one shot of a person talking
the whole time you want to like switch it up between like action shots like as they're
talking and stuff so I didn't have enough action shots and me and Micah are always like wanting
to do the cinematic we wanted you know we have these big productions in our mind and
so I was like man you know what would really spice this thing up if we had a car chase
in this month now I knew that my friend Jimmy was not going to agree to stage a fake car
chase I knew he wasn't going to do that so I took it upon myself and and incorporated
the help of Micah for us to stage this fake police car chase so do you want to tell him
about the fake police car chase that we put in my film festival video?
First off Chris had you've probably heard or if you've seen the cops videos that we're
referring to Chris had a white Buick and it looked like a cop car like I mean I don't
know even when you were driving on the highway people would even kind of it kind of I don't
know how to describe it it looked like a 90s cop car just the way it was shaped yeah so
like they used to have the old Ford Crown Victorias they don't have those anymore most
places don't they upgraded to chargers or toruses or whatever or even now they're like SUVs
most places SUVs yeah in Texas for sure but in in the early 2000s of course they still
had the Ford Crown Victorias and that's what most of the police department still used even
even at that time when I filmed this because this was like 2012 2012 2013 and so I was
like okay like we can get the feel of this cop car deal we'll film it in my car and we'll
we'll have and Micah's truck it looked like a beat up old truck that people would get
in a car chase with yeah because if you've ever seen car chase footage for whatever reason
it's never like an overly nice vehicle right it's always kind of a half beat thing and
sometimes you're even sitting here thinking why did you try to get into a chase with this
thing this thing is terrible but anyways it was in a zuzu pickup truck that I paid $650
for and I remember the plan was there was an elementary school and kind of the way that
the street in front of my neighborhood went there was a hill and at the top of the hill
was the elementary school and then you come down the hill and like you take a left turn
and it's into my neighborhood so what we did we said we're gonna go up to the top of the
hill and something else about this truck this truck was very very bad Chris will tell you
it probably couldn't go over 60 like 60 miles an hour it was just really really bad and
it was very slow so of course doing a high speed pursuit in a very slow vehicle is not
great also we tried to stay within the means of the law as much as possible so what we
figured is we'll go up to the elementary school we'll ride downhill right we'll use all that
momentum it'll look like we're going fast it'll also be at night then I'll whip into
my neighborhood and we made sure because you could see all the way down the road if the
road was clear enough for us to do all this so we made sure the road was clear we said
go we started filming and we rolled down the hill and went into the neighborhood and right
when you get in the neighborhood there's a big grassy patch with a curb and I said okay
what I'm gonna do is you know I'm gonna let it ride a little quicker and I'm gonna hit
that curb and the best part about that truck the suspension was all messed up too so the
moment I hit that curb it really looked like I slammed into the curb but what was the beauty
of that whole scene we weren't going that fast but what what did it Chris okay so again
like you said we had a time this to make sure no cars were coming because also too we had
to make sure that we could turn on to take a right out of the elementary school and that
we weren't gonna get caught in traffic right and also take a left into the neighborhood
so we had I think we had to do it a couple of times so I was the driver in my car and
then our friend Taylor he was the camera holder but he was also pretending to be Jimmy but
the voices didn't match up and I'm sure that they could tell that on the video which is
probably why it didn't get any higher than the county level so so we go and as soon as
like Micah hits the truck into the suspension the person that's supposed to be playing Jimmy
is like suspect his crashed his vehicle suspect his crashed his vehicle so I like my car had
a column shift and so that's kind of the thing in cops videos where they like put the brakes
and put it in the park real quick and so I put it in a whip themselves out of the door
real fast too they open the door and they're already half out the door by the time they
are putting that column shift into part exactly and so then we we were like as soon as I opened
the door Micah I was like you're gonna take off right so it's night so you can't really
see where he's taking off into he just goes out of view of the camera and so like we had
to do this a couple times but he like bolts out and then that's where like it cuts and
then it goes like that was the opening sequence sequence of my film thing and so what I did
was was I took the footage and I sped it up to make it look like it was we were going
faster than what we really were and then I also put like a blue tint to it and put police
sound effects in it so it made it look like we had the lights going on and it was it was
good it was good it was some good it was really good but I think the the adults could tell
that it was not not real and what I should have done looking back I should have put this
is a dramatization of events that took place in April due to court cases we cannot show
the actual footage right yeah some some BS or something some disclaimer at the beginning
of it and so then I go into like hey like this is what about being a police officer
is all that good stuff and looking back on it mean I could have put more work into it
because watching it and I was like yeah bro like this doesn't uh this this has no continuity
with it at all so I was like ooh I get to make a documentary and I get a cool camera
I get to take equipment home I was like let's go yeah but I mean it's also it's also high
school and you also had a limited time to do it right and I was also checked out at that
point because I was a senior and I was just like I was checked out and this was probably
and I want to say March of that year and so I think I had already gotten accepted into
Texas Tech and I was just like yeah bro peace out oh something else to speak enough because
a lot of kids went on a spring break I was I was talking to some people out here in Texas
they couldn't believe it out where we lived in Georgia spring break wasn't until like
mid April like first second week in April of the Masters golf but just thinking about
that though like that's that's insane because we would I just remember and thinking about
it now having spring break and then like the week we came back it was always standardized
testing like the week we came back from spring break oh yeah and then after standardized
tech testing you don't get anything done for the rest of the year and so you're pretty
much done so yeah so it was really quick because I remember spring break when I got to like
be a junior spring break and then like a week the week after spring break was prom and it
was like bro like holy guacamole and then it was like oh yeah time to be out for the
summer I couldn't imagine doing it now because these poor kids I don't know how it is in
the rest of the country these poor kids in Texas man they like they have star tests and
standardized testing out the wazoo like they they're always taking some kind of standardized
tests like throughout the year and it's it's a lot it's a lot but yeah I mean we did too
man if you think about it I know there was one year that I took three in one year it
was like that there was the tax test there was another test and then I remember having
to take the pre SAT the PSAT or whatever they like administered it in school so it was like
three standardized tests in a row it was it was just miserable oh yeah they're always
taking some kind of they call them map tests which is like I think it's prep for the star
test but they're taking those like once every three weeks or once every six weeks they're
always taking some kind of standardized tests it's not like a oh we learned this in school
and in our in our class it's like a county wide standardized or some kind of bench I
guess it's a benchmark test I don't know bro I used to hate when they started incorporating
those yeah I tell you this much standardized testing period I am not a big fan of you know
that's that's the least thing that a kid wants to do I don't care who they are it's such a
corporate cold process like do you remember how standardized testing like it's such a
miserable experience the only good part about standardized testing is if you get done early
you get to sleep potentially if your teacher's cool like that was the only thing that was
cool about it or you get to draw or have some free time after it's done like I don't remember
anything being good I used to hate standardized testing everything about it oh yeah and and
again like like I said it's gotten it's gotten worse now and I feel bad for the kids because
the kids are like under so much pressure like we were kind of for like to pass our CRCTs
but like but now dude like I'm telling you like they get super anxious and it's not just
one week it's like multiple weeks of testing and in some school districts like the teachers
get a bonus if a lot of their kids pass or a certain number of the kids pass and then
it's financial stress on the teacher so the teachers like man I gotta get these kids to
the pat like it's it's just oh yeah there's a whole there's a whole thing so my wife is
in education and there's a whole thing about that it's you know the it's all about the
good test scores are rewarded the bad test scores are not rewarded budgetary wise that's
why it's like the good school districts are the good school districts and they stay that
way and the bad school districts stay the bad school districts is because they don't get
any money because their test scores are so low and it's like it's a bad cycle it's a
bad system to not to like be boring but and I'll change this up to care a little bit but
I don't know if you when you voted or if you voted in the midterms in March or whatever
but one of the things was I don't know if it was you had to vote but here in our city
we had to vote whether you wanted the option for parents would be able to choose what school
their kid could go to regardless of zoning and then it was like regardless of zoning
and the funding will follow my kid and it was like that well that sucks for the kids that
are in the bad schools because it's like they don't get no funding either so no that's what
makes it worse that's what makes it worse it's things like that again if you you know it's
already happening right it's there it's that's a whole we could do a whole episode just on
that how broken our education system is but it's it's pretty it's pretty bad on that front
um yeah um on more funny note do you remember the time that I let a walk out on we didn't
go to the same school but do you remember me telling you about getting in trouble because
I let a walk out against the CRCT and let a picket line wouldn't go within 100 feet of
the school even though it was within 100 feet when I was picketing and um yeah that didn't
last long they just carried us inside but I got like two or three kids to follow along
with us what were you like seven no I was let's see fourth grade the second time around
reason reason I didn't want to do it is because I found out because okay I went to fourth grade
two times yes I failed the fourth grade and the first time I went around um we were told
the standardized test that we took at the time it was the CRCT I used to be able to remember
what it stood for because they beat it into our heads it's like the course curriculum
reading uh the critical reading competency test was it reading critical reading and competency
yeah okay anyways so we had that and I remember certain years if it was like if you passed
reading and math then that was what made you go to the next grade but if you failed it you
know you failed the grade like you could have passing grades but if you failed the CRCT then
you'd have to stay a grade um and I remember that was third and fifth grade so fourth didn't
count so I'm sitting here going why in the heck are we taking this test if it doesn't
count so I convinced a bunch of other kids like hey it doesn't actually count we might
as well just walk out of this thing and I don't know I remember seeing something on
TV about like leading a walk out against a test and so I just remember it was like school
was about to start and we were all in the very very front and you know the bell rings it's
time to go inside and we went right out the front door me and three other people and
we had made signs with printer paper and rulers and it said something like no test or I think
mine had like a test with like a big like circle with a cross through it and we like
stood outside and we're like we're not going to take the test and they just like brought
us inside and made us take the test in fact they like brought us into a separate room
like the three of us and had extra supervision on us that's hilarious maybe watch that boy
meets at boy meets world episode when Sean and Corey walked out on the test because
that sounds vaguely familiar because that was one of the maybe so where Mr. Turner
promised them that if they read the book that and they had a discussion in class about it
that they wouldn't have to take the test but then Mr. Feeney made Mr. Turner give them
the test anyways so Corey and Sean like like and they got the whole like they got the whole
grade to not try to take the test so that was a little bit different.
Yeah I wasn't as successful as that that would have been great if I had the whole fourth grade
out front with me but no that didn't work like that just just a few just a few.
Yeah yeah you got in trouble for a couple a few things at school some of them we can't
say because they are not appropriate.
Yeah telling a kid to do something themselves.
Well listen he called me he called me something and so you know what the Michael Jackson trial
was going on so I made a Michael Jackson reference on his behalf.
Hey man it happens bro it happens for real.
Yeah.
Testered.
Yeah.
Crazy.
Oh I know what I was going to say.
So we I know you had to do this too.
Since I went to a fine art school we would we would get to choose advanced placement classes
and the benefit was that since we didn't have sports we got funding to for the school to
pay for our AP test that we took and I know at your school you had to pay for any AP test
that you took right.
Yep and it was like two hundred dollars a pop.
So one year I was in three AP classes so it would have been like six hundred dollars to
take all the AP tests.
Yeah and the reason why you want to take the AP test is that's the only way that you can
get college credit for the course that you took so you can take so you can basically
get like dual credit right.
You can knock out some of your basics early but in order to do that you have to take the
advanced placement test right.
And so there was I don't remember it wasn't in my class but I think it was an AP English
test and one of these guys that we knew he absolutely refused to take the test and I
just remember like the assistant principal and like everybody.
Oh you're talking about Oh Kami J. Kami J. that's what we'll call him with his communist
manifest.
It was at that point that he started getting really weird with his communist ideals bro
and then he stopped showering and everything.
But anyways so yeah I remember the assistant principal like literally escorted him out of
the room and bro I think she was really upset and like understandably so because of like
the school is paying the money for you to take the test and you're just like no like
I'm not taking this test and it's like bro you were the one that chose to be in the class
like I don't know what you like what I think he wanted credit for the class without taking
the test which would line up with his communist ideas.
Yeah he got like it wasn't just like Kami ideals he got like pretentious ideals like
people owe me stuff for free kind of thing.
Yeah and I don't know what his deal was because he wasn't that popular with a kid.
He wasn't that good looking of a kid.
I don't know where he got that entitlement from.
But this was also the same kid that when we were in the Six Flags line he tried to brag
about how many girlfriends he had and every every time we got like further up in the line
or we got on a different ride it was like Uncle John's fishing story.
It got more and more.
It was like at first it started was like yeah I've had two girlfriends at one time and then
as the day got on it was it got up to oh yeah I've had eight girlfriends at one time and
we were just like OK.
I was like and then did I mention Allison.
So I guess it's actually nine.
Yeah nine actually.
And the problem was is like we weren't we weren't like elementary school kids.
We were like juniors.
No we were we were like juniors seniors in high school here.
Like we could see right through this crap.
I can fact that was that was a running joke for a while.
It's like no no I've had like sevensies and eighties.
You know what actually nine I had nine.
And I don't know what the problem was because I'm like why are you trying to impress me
and Michael.
We're not the people that you should be trying to impress like like we don't care.
Like I don't know why you're trying trying so hard to impress us.
I was going to say maybe he was he felt honored that he got invited to be part of our our
third gesture.
I guess so I don't know inner circle.
I don't know.
Here's the thing though what people didn't understand was yeah you might be on the Six
Flags trip with us.
And yes we may be like a you want to.
But the thing is that's just because we're in a group and you're semi cool and we know
that we you're probably don't have anybody else to hang out with.
So you need to roll with somebody.
Yeah I don't know what it was about him but he was like yeah trying to impress us and
then he just got really weird like really really weird.
I don't know what his problem was though.
I blame his home life.
I don't know what's going on.
Oh you know what we need to finish off this episode with his last story.
So the same guy O'comy J. Well he had a how do we put this anyways he had a family member
who was a stepdad that was very close to him.
Not really close.
But he had a particular problem in his life.
He enjoyed the liquor a little bit too much.
In fact every time you'd see him he would smell a little bit.
That was you know great smelling like Jack all the time.
Anyways so Chris and I had our days of in the middle of the night we would prank call
places especially ones we would see on TV commercial wise right.
Impalmerials whatever right.
We would just screw with people.
Well one night there was one for a rehab center so I start dialing the rehab center and you
got to think Chris like how was it back then because I remember I wouldn't even tell you
what's going on sometimes I just start dial the number and just start going with this
character.
Like there was a few times it was Mike from Houston this time in particular for this guy
for O'comy J. Stepdad we called and I remember we were a pastor from somewhere and we were
trying to get a congregation member who's just been too much on the drink up there to Michigan
because it was in Michigan.
It's like up there in Michigan from Georgia we're looking to make the trip and brother
we're just looking for a price point and they're like well is he of his own volition like
does he want to come up here on his own it's like nope but we'll drag him kicking and screaming
his wife and kids and the Lord needs them to change.
I remember we just went on and on bro and then I think the worst part about it is I think
we even I even let a prayer at the end with the guy you remember.
Oh yeah the the first red flag those people should have known is like no pastor is going
to be calling you at one or two in the morning about their congregation member like they had
to know we were we were not being legit but I mean there is a happy ending the guy did
get cleaned up towards the end of his life he did end up passing away but he did I think
quit drinking and he did kind of get his act.
That is good that is good now it was mainly we used to prank call and you know whether
he knew or not that guy on the other end I don't know but they always played along that's
the thing there was never a prank call that I remember people actually calling us out
on.
Yeah but it's also too you have to think this was like in 2007 2008 so the people were
still believable like people still put trust in other people like if you told them something
people people would still believe it and if you're calling and you're you know you're
talking like that I mean we called a whole bunch of places we called hotels pretending
to be angry husbands and like is my wife staying there because I know she we would make up
these whole stories dude.
Make up these whole stories yeah you couldn't do that now well especially with caller ID
and stuff like that.
I think we told them too about when we would go to like the jewelry place because we were
bored and we would go to the jewelry places and we were pretend like because I looked
like I was probably three or four years older than what I really was and so I would tell
them that I was looking to get engaged and so we would just kind of string the salesman
along which is really messed up.
Yeah it was so bad and especially Chris and I became commissioned salesman later on at
boot corral and yeah we paid for it later but yeah bro what did we do.
Our whole backstory was that I worked in the oil field which is why I had so much money
to spend and I was in town which made them perk up which made their ears perk up like
oh oil filled money.
Yeah and then I was in town looking for an engagement ring for my soon to be girlfriend
or soon to be wife sorry my girlfriend's soon to be wife and so we would just you know
kind of be like oh yeah let me and I don't know what it was I think it was the fact that
we would make up these stories so and we took it as so far as to go to the car dealership
and test drive some cars.
I don't I think they probably knew that we were you know giving them the run around they
had to know.
Oh man you weren't on that one I remember that was so Fat Cat and I used to do that
too you weren't there the time that we got them all the way down to like numbers we literally
sat in the dude's office for two hours crunching numbers and like yeah and walked away from
a sale that we were like just a few yeah it was it was really wrong.
Did you get him really bargaining down like did he really cut off a lot.
Yes so I'll never forget okay so I'm not gonna say the place but it was actually in a semi
affordable car like I mean I'm not talking sometimes we would drive brand new cars sometimes
we would go you know do do some crazy stuff right but this time it was there was this
Mazda Miata that we had seen from the road and we used to call it free fun because you'd
go in and have some fun you'd go test drive a car right and you're not spending any money
and anyways you're just spending somebody else's time anyways so that was so bad so we go to
test drive this Miata and you know we test drive it everything's good so the original
asking price was $10,000 for this Miata and it was used but it was very very nice and
we got him worked down all the way to $6,500 and yeah bro and we kept we kept telling
them listen we need five five grand is where we're at and they're just like no we can't
do five they worked it all the way down to 65 and we still walked away because we needed
it at five grand so messed up so I'm almost bought that car probably I'm telling you I
told Matt I told Matt or don't cut that part out I told fat cat listen man if like we when
the dealer actually walked out of the room I was halfway convinced you know I was like
listen if he goes to five if they come back and say five like I'll sign papers today I
had no credit but they were willing to work with that that's why I'll do it probably would
have been a stupid loan probably but same time it's just like if I would have had him
worked down to five yeah I probably would have bought that car that day and the moral
of the story is kids please with waiters salesmen all that good stuff don't screw around with
their time yeah we had yeah you'll have a profession later on or time is of the essence
or you need to make a sale or you need that money or something and somebody will come
screw around with you to what's been a good episode man we kind of did a little bit different
just telling stories and having a fun time man but yeah last week in aviation go check
that out on YouTube just type in last week in aviation for all your aviation news if
you want to find out what's going on in that world I'm sure your people know a lot about
what's going on but it's always nice to like have an opinion and to listen to what other
people are talking about in the world of whatever it is that you're interested in so yeah y'all
go check that YouTube video out yeah there's a lot of people in the comments that are leaving
some some feedback a lot of people don't like Boeing right now and a very interesting opinion
before we leave to a lot of people and I'm not I'm gonna spare you what's all going on
with Boeing basically they're in a lot of hot water because they are paying a lot of
attention to safety and skimping on quality and safety so a lot of people are saying that
it's not just Boeing that's the modern day corporation is everybody skimping on safety
it's just we haven't found out about it yet and that's the way that our world works nowadays
that nobody's thinking about the consumer just the bottom line in the dollar and everything
shifted to that and nobody's really safe in the end yeah man well cool deal well tell
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