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Trash can presents everybody on New Year's Day.

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New Year? New me. I got this new resolution. I'm gonna go join the gym today.

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2024 is gonna be my year. I'm gonna stop eating for the whole year so I can lose 500 pounds.

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You know what? Righteous brother, I'm there with you. You know what? It's called intermittent fasting

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and you're right. We should all do that. You know what? Let's fast and do keto on top of it.

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That's what I think. 2024, I'm deleting all toxic people out of my life. Absolutely. I'm gonna have

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it queued up to where right as it hits midnight. Just delete all of them and then I'm gonna post.

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I'm gonna schedule on Facebook and Instagram to post a picture of me with New Year, New Me at 12.01.

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Yeah. Because you know what? I'm gonna be more tech savvy this year too. I'm gonna learn how to code

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in just a few days actually. I'm gonna be a full stack developer by the end of the month.

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That's New Year, New Me. Two days later. So you plan on going to the gym today, man?

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Oh no dude. I gave that up bro. I went the first day, first 10 minutes. Yeah. It's just not for me.

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You know, I actually prefer to work out at home. I might go to buy some work out equipment at all.

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Maybe. I don't know. We'll see what happens. But didn't you spend like $1,000 on work out clothes

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and all sorts of stuff to go to the gym and sign like a two-year membership contract then?

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I'm sure I'll go. I'll just go tomorrow. Yeah. I mean, I understand the developer thing didn't

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really work out. I got to lesson one and it said that two equals three and I was already out. So

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I don't even know what they're talking about. I didn't really even text the name of what I was

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supposed to be doing. But yeah, I figured that that's pretty much it. I'm Chris and I'm like this.

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New gear. Oh, that's what I'm saying. Wow.

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Wow. And we're honest. Welcome to the podcast. This is the Dota Box podcast. We appreciate

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you being here and we're going to do a little free form today. Happy new year. This is the first

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episode of the 2024. We made it all the way to 2024. What's really interesting is I know that we

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started the podcast in November of that year. But can you believe it was 2021? Like we're going to be

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going into 2024 and technically the podcast started in 2021. So it's weird to see that number

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roll over. But man, it's so great to be on the air. So great to see another year blessed to do it.

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But super psyched to have all you guys listening internationally and domestically here in the

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United States. Anywhere you want to give a shout out to Chris? I mean, everybody. Everybody's doing

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great. We just love everybody. All of our listeners. It's so amazing to see the new places on the map

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pop up every week and every day. Yeah, we talk about we'll be like, Hey, do you see what we got?

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You know, and, you know, we just need that listener Antarctica. You know, that's what that's

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how we know we really made it there at Scott station or something. And anyways, so this episode,

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we're actually going to be free forming it talking about Chris and I's, what would you say? I

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wouldn't even say like it or most thoughts, but more like what we think about life in depth.

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Just kind of going through some some interesting questions and, you know, there's probably even

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things that we don't even know about each other that we we feel about life and different,

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what do you say, controversial topics, but highly questionable topics, right? To where people have

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lots of questions and there's a lot of mystery surrounding it, right? Yeah, I don't know. You

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have all the questions. So I really don't know what we're going to talk about, but I'm I'm ready

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for it. I'm ready to talk about it. So let's talk about it. Yeah, heck yeah. So let's start off with

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this. Christopher is a man of the clergy. So we automatically know that he believes in both heaven

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and hell as, you know, places that you would go. Now, we're not going to get into the whole theology

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of everything. The question is, we know what it says biblically of what heaven is. Let's start

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with Chris. If you say I died, go to heaven today, you make it in. What is heaven? What do you actually

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think that it's like? Because, you know, we get a very limited window via text. What do you think

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it's like? So when I was a kid, I used to think heaven was just we were just going to be singing,

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doing worship songs, doing worship services all day, 365 forever and ever and ever. And I was like,

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man, like, I love worshiping God. I was like, but is there going to be anything else? So it says in

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the Bible that streets are going to be made of gold. You know, of course, we're going to worship,

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worship God, worship Jesus, right? That's the whole point of us being there. But I do believe,

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I do believe that we're going to have different jobs in heaven. I don't know why, but I just

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believe that we're going to have different jobs in heaven. I mean, the Bible says that we're going

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to live in a nice mansion. Now, I don't know. I had the impression that everyone got their own

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mansion when they died and went to heaven. But the older I get, I don't think that's the case. I think

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there's just like maybe a couple mansions. One big house. Yeah, one big house and there's many

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rooms, right? Because Jesus says I go to prayer place where you in my father's house, there are

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many rooms, right? And so, so I'm like, oh yeah, that's it for sure. We're definitely going to get

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to know everybody and see everybody, see the loved ones that we know have passed and that have gone

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on to heaven. I think it is, I think it's just going to be a place full of peace. I do believe

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that we are going to eat in heaven. Do you believe that we're going to eat in heaven? I think we are.

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Not because we need to eat, but I don't know. And see, this is where it kind of gets for me. I'm

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going to go kind of into what I think it is. Honestly, heaven, you know, a lot of things in the Bible

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also could be a lot of symbolism as well. You can also look at it as a lot of symbolism too.

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And as wonderful as a place as it's depicted and things like that, I guess here's more of what I

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would like for it to be. I think it's individualized, right? There are things that you get in and

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there are things for you like, right, you know, the football stadiums over here, the airports over

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here, you get to fly what you want, whatever, cross the Emerald Sea, you know, have a good time.

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And what I'm hoping that that is, is more than anything, if you want to talk about it on a physical

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room, because it also says that, you know, we're going to come back to ruling right over the earth,

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like, you know, all the dead shall rise to do that at some point. There is a theory out there,

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and we're getting into weird territory here. I don't know how Chris feels about this,

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but there is a theory out there that essentially when you die, yes, you do go to a heaven-like

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place, but it's almost a holding area. And after the big apocalypse of earth happens and everything

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that's depicted in Revelation, that all the souls will actually come back to earth and

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might as well reign over the earth and take what's what's great about the earth, and it's

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basically going to be in its purest form once again. I don't know how true that part is, but it's

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interesting to think about. I would almost want it to be going back to what I would like it to be.

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I almost want it to be simulations, right? Yes, you get to because how many times have you been

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sitting there in life going, I would love to see what the 1950s was like in this region of the world

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without like political turmoil or things like that. Just give me or at least where I would know

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I'm safe, right? Like I'm protected, I'm safe. Give me that to where basically you can go travel,

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do whatever you want to do, have a good time, that sort of thing. And that's eternity. And where

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the worshiping God comes in is it's going to be so amazing to go, wow, this is really cool.

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Thanks God for allowing me the opportunity to go around and see what all and not just life has

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to offer, right? Because what eternal life has to offer if you're baiting it that way.

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I don't know. What do you think about that, Chris? I don't know. I don't think it's going to

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be that way because I'm like, for me, it's like if I get to eternity and like I'm in the presence

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of God, I'm not going to care about what happened in 19. I'm not really going to want to go back or

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time travel or anything like that. So I for me, I'm like, I don't think that's what it's going to

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be because it's more of like, I feel like it's going to be like a whole corporate thing, right?

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and stuff, but I'm kind of like, yeah, like I don't really think none of us are really going to,

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I think we're going to love heaven where it is so much that we're not really going to care

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or to want to go back or to know. Like we'll already know what it was going to be like. You

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know what I mean? Like we'll have that knowledge, not that we're all knowing like God, but I think

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there's part of the things that we've wondered we'll be able to ask questions and I feel like we'll

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be able to know. But it's always like, I don't know, it's weird. Like there are certain definitive

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things that are in the Bible that are about heaven, but again, there's so much that it's like

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nobody knows unless you've been there. I do know that I think everybody in heaven is like,

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you know, you're having, you get a new body, right? Because you're, you know, says that there's

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no imperfections or anything. So I don't think there's like people that even though they're old,

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when they pass away and they go to heaven, I feel like they maybe look like the younger versions

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of themselves. I don't know. That's just what I've heard. But again, you know, there's so many books

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out there that are like, yeah, this guy died and went to heaven. It's like, I'm not trying to discredit

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those people at all, but it's like, nobody really knows unless you've actually been there. And I

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don't think that heaven is like out, like the heaven that we go to is like a holding place.

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I think it is the actual heaven, but at the same time, it's also like the Bible says that there's

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going to be a new heaven and a new earth. So it's like, I think, I think to your point, I think

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that earth, once, you know, the apocalypse and revelation, all that happens, like the earth will

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go back to its original state, the way that God designed it when it was like in the Garden of Eden.

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I'm like, I don't know. But there's like, there's like I said, definitive parts that we all know.

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But there's some stuff where it's like, I don't know what else we're going to do in heaven or what's

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going to be in heaven. And so it's okay for us to not know. It's okay to wonder and speculate and

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ask questions. The main thing is getting there. That is like the number one focus. That's like,

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oh, yeah, like, let's make sure you're good to go there first. Yeah, no, for sure, for sure.

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It's just it's very interesting of because like you're like you're saying and not to be a dead

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horse, but you just get such a limited window of here's what it would be like. And again, the Bible

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is full of symbolism, right? There's a ton of symbolism. So it's how much of it is symbolic

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and how much of it is okay, let's take it and its actual word that that's actually what it's

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going to be like, right? So it's it's interesting. So on the contrary, we're going to move over to

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another side. And, you know, hopefully this doesn't make anybody uncomfortable of what

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you think this would be. But the other side, what do you think that hell is true? You know,

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again, it says in the Bible that there's going to be weeping and gnashing of teeth. I think it's

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going to be watching Coco Melon for now. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. But I do think it's

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going to be like a very dark place, just very dark, cold. I mean, it is torment, right? So like

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having to relive like the worst moments ever, right? And so just being in a dark place, cold,

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I mean, they say it's hot. Like just I think it's going to be, you know, how in the summer when it's

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like so unbearably hot that you cannot just get comfortable. Like I think it's going to be that

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times like a thousand, right? To where it's like it's going to be just absolutely miserable because

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it's like, you know, the devil or hell is meant for the devil and like the demons, right? It wasn't

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meant for humans, but it's like if we make that that choice, we can, you know, go there. So it's

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like it's not a nice place. It's definitely not somewhere you want to go. It's not it's not the

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place that you absolutely want to go for for sure, for sure. Now let me ask you this. There is a lot

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of people that actually believe based on what it says and based on the characteristics of our planet

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that hell would actually be located in the core of the earth. So like your soul would actually just

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descend into basically the pits of the earth and all that liquid magma and everything you would have

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to live amongst, you know, because even underneath there, yes, there's a lot of magma things flowing

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there. Do you believe that that is where hell is? Or do you think it is in a room? No, I don't,

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I think it is in another place. Again, I don't know where that is, but I think it's definitely,

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it's definitely, again, I used to think that hell was like below your feet or whatever, but like,

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you know, they always say like in the Bible, like a second heaven or the third heaven, like

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the prophets like, yeah, I was taking to the third heaven or the second heaven or whatever.

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It's like hell is somewhere and there, I don't know where it's at, bro. I don't really care to

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know where it is. But it's like, I understand that. Honestly, I think that there are different

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spiritual planes, right? And I don't think that, you know, it's easy enough to point at a place

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and go, that's hot. That's probably where it's at, right? But I honestly think that it's on a

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different spiritual plane that we can't understand nor see or, you know what I mean? But also, you

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don't want to in that sort of thing. What's interesting, though, I know you're about to move

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on. What's interesting is if you study the Bible and the gospels and everything, Jesus actually

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talked more about hell than heaven because it's like, hey, like this place is so horrible. Like,

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like make sure you know, you're on the right path, right? Make sure you're, you know,

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and that's why Jesus like, I hear I came to give you the path of salvation, right? I'm the way,

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the truth of life. No one comes to the Father except through me because it's like, he doesn't

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want anybody to go to go to hell. And so that's like, a lot of people are like, yeah, I, it really

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bothers me when people are like, oh yeah, I can't wait to go to hell. Or it's like, oh yeah, I'll

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see you in hell. And I'm like, hey, that breaks my heart when people say that because I'm like, dude,

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hell is such a horrible place. Nobody should want to go there. I do want to, I know we're about to

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get off of this. I do want to, there's another theory out there. And I know that general reincarnation

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is kind of a weird topic, right? Because it is believed in some religions and then ad hoc just

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by some people. I've also heard that hell is actually coming back to earth as a animal or

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something like that. And depending on how good or bad you were in life, it's kind of the treatment

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that you get. So, you know, if you were a bad person in life, basically, you get all of those

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things back to you in life again, but as a dog or as a, you know, if, if, you know, if you were

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smiting ants with a magnifying glass, you'll be an ant that comes back that gets burned alive kind

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of thing over and over and over again. And that's eternity. I don't think so because I feel like

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that is too, again, that's a horrible punishment, but I feel like that's too easy. You getting off

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the hook for it. What the hell is like literally, it's like, you're hearing people screaming and

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it's so hot and you're being tormented by demons, like, you know, hearing all those voices and

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everything you do. You can't get away from it. I just feel like being re-incarnated as an animal

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is like kind of an easy scapegoat. It's like, oh yeah, like that's bad, but it's like, it's not as

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bad as like actually having the thought of hearing, hearing voices screaming the whole time and being

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in pitch black darkness and being hot as blue blazes and feeling cold and empty and there's no

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light. Like, I don't know. So I don't agree with that theory. One other element to it, there's also

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people that believe that, right? And they also believe that that could be your form of purgatory.

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enough to go to hell. So you're put back on earth as, again, an animal or something like that to

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almost prove yourself. And I'm sure you probably just, you'll probably dismiss that notion too,

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but what do you think of that opinion? I don't personally believe in purgatory or that there's

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it in between. Yeah, I don't believe that because then it says, then it's based of, okay, you can

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get to heaven based on your works, right? And so it's like, none of us really are good enough. So

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it's not a works-based thing and it's not a, I'm having to prove myself. It's like the faith in Jesus

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and walking that out. So it's, so I don't believe in that because then it's like, okay, I can earn

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my way into heaven. And that's just not true. So I don't believe in that theory. I completely agree,

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but wanted to hear your opinion on that. Okay, we'll move off of that one. And again,

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sorry if that was a little uncomfortable. Hell can be a little bit of an interesting topic.

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Hey, but it's serious. It's real, bro. Like you, I mean, you got to talk about it. You got to talk

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about it. It's uncomfortable because it is a scary thing. So next thing, and this is kind of a

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different realm. First of all, do you believe that aliens are real? Do I believe that other life forms

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exist on, I don't know, it's hard to say because the galaxy, like there's not just one galaxy,

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there's many galaxies. And in space is ever expanding. Like it's still expanding. Yeah,

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but at the same time, so my thing is, is like, okay, if, if there are aliens or other life forms,

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then how does that, are they just angels or demons on other planets? How does the salvation work for

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it? I don't believe that Jesus like went to those planets and did the same thing over. I don't believe

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that. So it's like, I don't know. I feel like if people see aliens, I feel like maybe it is like

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spiritual beings, like an angel or a demon, or maybe it is just the government. So I don't know,

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man. It's kind of hard to say I'm leaning towards that I don't really believe in aliens.

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maybe a spiritual being. So I'm going to go into kind of both things that you said,

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what I believe with that. So I can totally see it being a spiritual side of things, right? Like

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they're saying, because what does it say to that, you know, God's going to come down and chariot of

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fire? What does that sound like? Right? Again, Bible's full of symbolism, right? We're not really

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looking for a chariot, a full on chariot of fire coming down. To me, if you take that as face value,

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what happens to a spaceship when it comes and enters our atmosphere, it's going to be burning,

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right? Like it's going to be on fire, like even you have the right protective gear around that ship,

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it's still going to, you know, the heat from it is still going to make it glow red hot as it's

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coming in. So what what if the chariot of fire is no more than what we consider a UFO coming down?

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And that's where Jesus comes back, right? That's kind of a weird theory. But, you know,

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if you think about it, there is merit to it, right? There is a possibility that, okay, now I

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don't think it's going to be like Jesus coming down on the flying saucer or anything, right? Like,

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I don't think it's going to be that level. But, you know, going back to the whole heaven idea,

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you're talking about a new, you know, a new heaven and a new earth. What if that holding place is

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just another planet for now, right? That is very earth like. And really, when you're being taken

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off, if it is a spiritual thing, what if we're just seeing, okay, these are the vessels, the ships

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or the vessels that are taking the souls from this side to the other side, right? To whatever

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planet that is, where, you know, it's being held and that's where heaven's going to be until the

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earth is returned. There's all sorts of variations there. Now, on the other front,

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because it's one of those things to where like I can believe multiple sides of this,

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like there's it's one of those things to where I don't really don't know what to believe. So,

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it's like, I can, if somebody told me this is the way that it was, and there was definitive evidence,

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I'm not going to be surprised. I also could see there totally being, I do believe that there is

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life out there besides us, right? I actually believe it at some point because yes, like coming from

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apes does make sense to a certain extent, but certain people have different characteristics.

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that. And I don't know if you've seen, but it will actually give you a percentage of how much of

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of primate that you are, or like how much percentage you're said to have or your family blood. And

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like, don't get me wrong. Like some I can see, but then there's others where it's like, I don't know,

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man. There could totally be aliens living amongst us kind of thing, like you watch men in black,

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and it's like, I wouldn't be surprised if something like that was going on, right? Like our government,

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if anything, if there actually was stuff, I believe that, you know, they've made contact in

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Roswell, there was the Battle of LA where they shot at the UFO for a long time and all sorts of stuff.

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Honestly, I think that they probably, and here's why I think so, technology jumped up very vastly

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between especially the 50s to now. It's insane. You talk about the internet, and I've heard about

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UFO crash landings and things like that. And one of the main themes that people have talked about

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is a lot of binary, right? One person touched a UFO and they were knocked back and all they saw

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was binary and they were able to write out the zeros and ones and it translated into a message

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and all this other stuff. Like the internet, trust me, I work in IT computers and internet and stuff,

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that's not, we're basically manipulating a rock and shooting electricity to it and making, like

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what is recording us right now is we're shooting electricity into a rock in different pulses,

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making data come out of that. Like how in the heck would we have figured that out? That doesn't

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really make a lot of sense to me, especially when you think about where we were the 50s, the 40s,

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like we were kind of cutting edge because of a lot of the wars that we were in and because we

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had to be innovative. But at the same time, that jump over to a lot of the advanced, even we go

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into the aviation realm, avionics, advanced avionics and things like that, there was a massive jump

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during that time. And I think war had a part of it, but I also could totally see, you know, them

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having extraterrestrial beings, they figure out some sort of different form of technology and we've

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manipulated it to be able to use it on our side. Now, what I've honestly thought has happened before

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was maybe UFOs, why would they come visit us but not make their presence known? I think it's

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pretty simple. We're pretty primitive compared to them, right? They're coming and flying to us,

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they figured out how to travel light years, and they're now coming and visiting us. And just like

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we do to more primitive areas of the world, like there are people that pay big money to go into

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the middle of the Amazon rainforest and go visit a tribe that has barely seen any sort of outside

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contact, right? People go on vacation and do that. I think it's no different, right? See what it was

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like eons before whatever civilization or kind you are was like. And because, you know, even on

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earth, that's fascinating. Even thinking about something like North Korea where they're so locked

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down. And it's basically like walking back into the 80s, 90s, right? Because that's where their

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technology is. I imagine it's a lot of the same thing. They come back and go how primitive that's

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cute. And then I even imagine where like the men in black and stuff stuff come in. How many people

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just like decide to stay? How many aliens are just like, okay, I can live amongst them, right?

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Get a skin suit, get a job. I like it here. It's way more simple than my planet system.

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Like that makes total sense to me. Like I could totally see something like that happen and just

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keep it under wraps sort of thing. But like I said, that whole spectrum, I can kind of see

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all those sides to the equation. I know. I'm like, bro, I don't believe. I'm like, no, that's cool.

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You believe that? I'm like, no, I don't think aliens come here to earth. I'm like, if there's

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other life forms, maybe there are other planets. But I'm like, I don't, I don't really believe

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that there are like I said, I think they're either spiritual beings or it's the government.

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dream, maybe God gave them that dream or they saw that vision or maybe it was something else.

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I don't know. But I'm like, yeah, but no tellings. But to me, I'm kind of like, well, it's not that

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important to me. So it's not like, oh, it doesn't affect my life, man. So I'm like, if they are,

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they are not, we'll find out one day. Not until the mother ship shows up, right?

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Yeah. But all right, well, we can, we can move on to the next one here. This one's a little bit

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more light. Where are some places around the world that are on your bucket list to travel to?

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Like where are you like, man, if I had the money right now, we're hopping on a flight and going

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to X. Definitely. I want to go to Israel, which is like sounds like the pastor's cliche answer.

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But I do for, I do want to visit. I do want to visit England. I do want to visit London.

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I don't think I want to stay very long. I, I, for some odd reason, I want to visit Australia.

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I think that would be, I don't know. I feel like that would be an interesting place to visit for

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sure. I did want to visit Italy, but everyone says Italy is like super dirty. That's what I hear.

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I don't know if that's true or not. It's from what I hear, it's very overrated, a lot like Paris.

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Now granted, I went to Paris when I was a kid. So it's a little different. But did you know

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in Paris, they actually have the Japanese embassy has a department that basically translates to the

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depression department because people are so disappointed with their trip to France

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that they literally become depressed and they have to help them out at the embassy.

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But I heard Italy is a lot of the same way and not just that, but I've heard a lot of Italians

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really do not like the tourists, especially when you're in the touristy areas. And I hear that a

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lot of the Italian people are very rude. Yeah, that's what I hear. I think Australia, New Zealand,

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I don't have any, any desire to go to like any of the Asian countries.

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I'll stop you there. The only Asian country that I'm like, yeah, let's put this on the list is South

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Korea. My buddy Ryan shout out to my buddy Ryan. He talked, he talked me into it. He was stationed

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there in the US Army. And pretty much, you know, the geopolitical stuff is very interesting to me.

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I find North Korea and the fact that, you know, they're basically in a ceasefire have been for

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that entire amount of time. Basically, I would go for just to see what it's like. I like Korean food

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as well, or at least the Americanized version of it. But to go to the DMZ, right, to see what the

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highly highest military zone in the world is like, because let's be honest, here in the States, we

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don't really see anything like that. I guess, well, we live in Texas, I guess, if you want to go to

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the border of Mexico and Texas, it's kind of militarized at the moment. But I think, you know,

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it's definitely something that would be interesting to go see. I think that's the only Asian country,

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maybe Thailand, but here it's just mainly because of the beaches. Like I'd go to Thailand.

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Yeah, Thailand. People go to Thailand for other stuff. That's not, that's not good. That's why

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people go to Thailand. I want to just see what Canada is all about. I want to see if, see what

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it's like over there. See how the people are. I just want to see what's up in Canada. Yeah,

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like any particular part of Canada. Not really. I just want to go to Canada and see what's up.

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I totally get you. I totally get you. Weirdly enough, I've wanted to go to kind of the lesser

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known places in Canada, like Saskatchewan. Like what the heck is in Saskatchewan? Like, I don't know,

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but I'm kind of interested. But Canada is one I would like to go to. Weirdly enough, I want to go

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to Antarctica mainly just because not a lot of people have been there. And I'm pretty sure it's

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a giant ice sheet, you know, but at the same time, I'm sure you see some pretty extreme things there.

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I mean, it's a very extreme part of the world. It probably is better in theory than actually

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as in person, if we're being honest, but it's something that sounds interesting. Oh yeah,

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definitely not trying to go to Antarctica. One of the other places I really want to go to in the

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Pacific is I want to go to Fiji. Also want to go to Bora Bora. You know, it's pretty much 82 degrees

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all year round and beautiful beaches, right? It's just where all the millionaires go bring their yachts,

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so it's pretty dang expensive. But it's, you know, it seems like it would be a really gorgeous place.

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I mean, it's in the middle of the Pacific. It takes a long time for the mainland US to get there.

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So it's definitely an undertaking that you have to be prepared for if you want to go out there.

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But I think it'd be pretty, pretty fun. But yeah, New Zealand, Australia is definitely on my list too.

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I'd love to go. Yeah, I want to find a kangaroo. Just kidding. Not really.

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Get your tail whooped on that deal. Do you have any more places or do you want to move to the next?

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No, that's it. Here's the next question. Have you ever wanted so just just because I know Chris and I

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know he has not. Have you ever wanted to go hunting like you've never been hunting for pretty much

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any animal? Have you ever wanted to go? I mean, like I'll go, but it's not like it's not like hey,

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like, oh, let's go like, yeah, it's not that I have an opposition to killing animals or anything

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or an opposition to guns. It's just kind of like it's not my jam. It's not really my thing, man.

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To be honest, I rather go fishing. I find that like more relaxing to me.

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But I don't know, maybe maybe if it was bow hunting, I think I might enjoy that a little bit more

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than actually just like shotgun hunting. But I think I think I would enjoy bow hunting.

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But I'm not like, oh, yeah, like let's go. It's just never been a big decision.

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I was just kind of a short side question there. Nothing really more to say on that. So next question

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being, is there anything that you're planning this next year? So 2024, I would just entered.

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Is there anything that you've never done before, but you're like this year is the year I'm definitely

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going to be. It's not that I'm planning it, but it's something that I want to do that I really

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want to do. I really want to go skydiving or parasailing, especially because I'm turning 30 this

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year. So I really want to do that. Bungie jumping is kind of like, eh, I don't know. I've heard too

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many people have too many accidents with that. But parasailing for sure, or hang gliding, or skydiving.

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I feel like skydiving is probably the most attainable one. But that is definitely something

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that I would like. I am going to say this on the Donut Box podcast. And that means that we're

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going to have to video it to have evidence when this actually does happen. But I am convinced

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and I will go skydiving with you. Like I before was a staunch no. You can think some folks from work.

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They there's actually a place just not too far from here in the city of San Marcos. And yeah,

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there's a very nice skydiving place and you can jump in tandem, you know, and all that good jazz.

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You can wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We're not talking about the indoor skydiving place.

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We're talking about actual legit skydiving. No, we're talking about going up in a

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yeah, we're talking about going up in a twin-autor plane up to 16,000 feet and jumping. Ladies and

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gentlemen, this man loves planes and he's not that scared of heights, but he does not like

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glass elevators. He does not like jumping out of planes. I don't know why. What's interesting,

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here's what got me. Here's what got me because I was talking with them and they're very much about

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it, right? In fact, one of these guys that I'm referring to is going to get his solo license.

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Like you can go if you do enough hours and take a test, basically you can, you know, jump and

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be by yourself parachuting. And you know, my biggest thing is I really don't like free fall

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drops. Like roller coasters, cool free fall drops. They're just not my bag. Like that heart in your

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throat feeling is just not, not good. I can handle roller coasters, but just not that free fall drop.

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So I was telling them that and they actually said it's actually right the opposite. Like you don't

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feel that in your, in your stomach. They're like, yeah, it's a lot of adrenaline, but you actually

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get used to it pretty quickly. So it's not, it's not very intense. Like basically it's a graceful

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going down a terminal velocity sort of thing. And it's not that really intense feeling that you

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would expect a fall drop. For sure, bro. Yeah, it's interesting. I've always wanted to do it.

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I may not look like it, but I am an adrenaline junkie. And so I do enjoy that. Is there anything

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that you're planning for 2024 that you've not ever done before? Well, now skydiving. Honestly,

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I want to, each year I'm trying to travel to a new place or at least fly to new plane. So I'm

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thinking, you know, this year, you probably, you know, some of you have seen the video of me going

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to a cook in the middle of nowhere. I'll probably take some some flights, just some some interesting

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ones on planes I've never done before or places I've never done before, something like that.

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That's probably going to be the the fresh new thing for me, besides skydiving. Because like I

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said, I do want to make that happen. If it's, if it's one of those things where it's not that

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feeling, I've always wanted to know what some of those experiences are like. Because, you know,

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one of the guys was also talking about going through a cloud, right? Like literally, they got

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to go through it wasn't a big cloud, because you have to be able to see the airport at all times.

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But they were able to go through a cloud. And I know it's probably just like being in fog.

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But that's got to be a very insane experience. I've always flown on the plane, looked out the

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window and thought, what does that feel like being in that cloud? So that must be pretty interesting.

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And I don't know, just being that high. And it would be very interesting to feel what it's like

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out there. I will say one of my 2024 goals. And I don't know if this is going to happen, but it's to

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take a picture with either Cody Rhodes, Sting or CM Punk this year. That is that is like on my list.

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Sting is retiring this year, his last match is in March. And I'm hopefully trying to get something

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signed by him personally or get a picture with him. And so that is like the most tangible one.

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But I'm trying to get at least a picture with one of those three this year. That is like one of my goals.

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I think that's that's a good goal, man. I think those are, those are pretty awesome.

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I think we're good to end it there, man, with what we're going to be doing new in 2024.

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I think it's fantastic. Every year we're growing, especially podcast and life and everything else.

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So it's going to be pretty fun this next year. And podcast and life with where everything is going.

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So, you know, I had a good time talking about it, learned some things about my,

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about my good friend Chris that I didn't really know about. You know, I'm sure he's,

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I will say, you know what, you know what, actually this, this month makes 20 years that we have been

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friends. Was it really this month? Well, I guess it was. Yeah. Cause January, yeah, this month,

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because you, you, we met, we met, I remember it was 2004 in January of 2004, because I was in the

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third grade and it was 2004. I think when you guys got to Augusta, is that right? Am I in the right

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timeline? Yep. January of 04. Yep. So we have been, we have been friends officially for 20 years.

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That's wild. Jeez. That's pretty crazy. And I'm not, and I'm not, and we're not even 30. No wonder

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we're able to pull stories out left and right. We've got 20 years worth. 20 years of friendship.

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You got a lot of stories, but you know what's crazy dude? Like think about it. When we're 40 or

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even 70, it's like, how many, you know, how many stories are we going to be able to pull?

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That's why we just got to keep on, keep on doing some crazy stuff to make those memories happen,

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which, you know, we will. It's going to be good. I know you're, I know you're trying to wrap up

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the podcast, but I have a quick question for you. Since it is New Year's, do you do the superstitious

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where you eat black eyed peas, collard greens, like all that stuff? Do you guys do that? I'm not,

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I'm not really superstitious. Honestly, like I'll be honest with you. This kind of sounds old man of

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me because I'm in my 20s, but I think the last couple of years, I don't even think I made it to

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midnight. I got to go to sleep before. Oh yeah. I never have either. I really never have the past

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couple of years. I'm like, yeah, it'll, the new year will be here when I wake up. Like it's,

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I don't know, but here's the thing. Like most people go to parties and like,

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I've never really been invited to a New Year's Eve party as an adult. So it's like,

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yeah, like there's no point in me staying up. You're not missing much. And unless it's a Christian

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party, everybody's just getting drunk. Pretty much, that's pretty much all it is. You're not

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missing much. I'll say this. We're doing the Southern goodbye here. So we're just going to

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keep on going for another minute. Let me ask this. Did you ever, or like have anybody

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watch like Dick Clark, you know, do like the countdown and when I guess dry and sea crested,

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that old dinosaur Dick Clark. Yeah, we, yeah. I mean, that's, that's always been like a thing.

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Like, you know, you watch it and all that stuff. I do actually remember that we spent a New Year's

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Eve party. I was just, yeah. It was actually at our friend Aaron's house and it was me,

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Micah Aaron. I think Stephen Corlew and Stephanie and his sister and Aaron's sister and my brother.

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And I think maybe the Reynolds were there. I think I'm not sure if they were there or not there.

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They may or may not have been there. I don't remember. All I remember about that is I threw up.

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That's all I remember about that one. Do you remember? Yeah. I also remember we got in trouble

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because we wrote a note to, I think Stephanie and was said, Hey, we think you like Andrew. Is this

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true? And we slipped it under the door and I remember she was crying about it and Aaron's

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nice sister, and I use the term nice sarcastically, scolded us and dude,

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do you think Kim Lee was a princess? This lady was a princess. We'll have to talk about her

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sometime. But yeah, but I remember we got in trouble and then Aaron's dad Todd came in and

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scolded us and I just remember getting in trouble and my parents, I think, still actually have a

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picture from that time. So and we drank sparkling grape juice. Yep. I remember sparkling grape juice

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and the whole reason I got sick is because I had way too much. So yeah. Well, there you go. Yeah.

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So I do remember that. I don't remember too many New Year's Eve's, but I do remember that one. Oh,

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and I remember that Aaron had fireworks, but we couldn't pop them in the backyard because

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there was it was cloudy out and they were just like, it's too cloudy out. I just remember being

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like really mad because I was like, what does that have to do with it? Well, I don't have anything

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else. Do you got anything else? Nah, man, we can wrap this thing up. So here's to 2024. It's going

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to be a great year. And I'm Chris and this has been the first episode of the year.

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Yeah.

