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Hi, this is President Micah.

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And I'm Co-President Chris.

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And this is the 2023 Trash Can Nation State of the Union.

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Trash Can OGs.

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It's been a great year.

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We're closed up season two.

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And guess what?

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How many states have we had, Chris?

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A whopping 26.

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How many countries have we had, Chris?

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That's a lot of states.

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Cross five continents.

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20 countries.

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That's a lot of countries.

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So y'all can pick it up anytime.

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We're growing.

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We're growing stronger.

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We're growing stronger together as OGs across this land.

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And season three will be our best one yet.

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Because together we can make Trash Can great again.

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My motto as well is make Trash Can great again and make Trash Can profitable more than ever.

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But what we're going to do for season three is build Trash Can better.

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You like how I use those two slogans?

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So this has been our state of the union.

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And let's open up season three with Micah.

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And I'm Chris.

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And this is the DonoBox podcast.

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So Chris, season three.

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It's interesting because what's crazy is that we've been doing this for two years now.

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And I feel like we're just finally starting to get some traction.

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They say it takes like a good like three to five years to finally like make it big.

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Unless you're like a celebrity, like celebrities like Logan Paul or whatever, they just pop

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out of podcasts and everybody goes and listens to it.

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But if you're just a regular Joe Schmoe like us, you got to start it from the bottom.

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Now we're here like Drake said.

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Yeah.

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And then we go get to the point where it's like we'll have a producer that does it all

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and all we get do, you know, we'll get paid to talk and that'll be great.

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But that's all in the future.

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That's all in the future.

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Now before we get started, Micah, I have to ask, should we come out with merch right

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now?

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Should we do it?

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We should not.

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We would make all this merch and I know that one person would buy.

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But other than that, I don't know who would.

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So I don't think it's a good, proper time at the moment.

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Probably like our wives and then like that other person.

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And probably my mom would buy it and that was probably it.

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So we know it would be good and, you know, maybe our listener over at Frankfurt, Germany,

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maybe they hop on that because man, they consistent.

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But we got a lot of consistent folks, man.

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We were looking at the map earlier and there's so many places out there.

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Columbus, Ohio was a really big one.

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Iowa is always massive.

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You guys are all consistent listeners.

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But I mean, it's amazing to look at it and look at the, we have what's called the heat

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map, right?

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We can see where everybody's listening from and just see how vast it gets.

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And man, it's always exciting whenever you see new blips.

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Like, you know, it's, it's amazing to me.

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Even two years in, I get super excited when it's like, oh man, we got a new location and

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you know, I've even learned some geography and some locations I didn't even know about.

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I'm always like, man, I wonder how these people find us or maybe it just pops up on

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their feet and they probably take one listen and they're like, oh, because I've seen a

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couple like countries do that.

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And then I've seen another was like, oh yeah, I like this.

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I'm going to download it every week and I'm going to tell my friends, but hey man, that

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just comes with the territory.

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So season three is going to be good.

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I'm excited for it.

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Heck yeah, man.

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Well, you know, in season opening and season closing fashion, a lot of the times we like

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to free form it.

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So in a season opening fashion, we're going to open up season three with a little bit

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of get to know your host because listen, you guys know us, but you don't really know some

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things and you know, there's even some stuff when we were prepping for this episode that

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Chris and I were talking about with each other.

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And it's like, oh man, I didn't even know that that happened or I forgot that that happened.

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So you know, it's, it's always fun to kind of go through that stuff and you know, you

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always can learn things about people that are interesting.

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So yeah, man, do you want me to start it?

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I'm eager to get into your life.

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I understand that you bought your first car with cash and let me tell you, even in the

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day and age that we grew up, that kind of wasn't real common.

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I mean, how many people, you know, I think their parents, you know, paid for a lot of

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it, but Chris, you bought your own car, the Buick, we've talked about it before, but I

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don't think we've talked about how you bought it, what you did work wise to get there.

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And there was a couple of different jobs, right?

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Well, it was mainly because of Chuck E. Cheese.

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That's mainly what it was.

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I worked at Chuck E. Cheese.

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I know you talked about me working at the Masters Golf Tournament, but that was to buy

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my plane tickets to come out to Texas.

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That's right.

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For some reason, I thought that was also to save up for your car.

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But no, that's all right.

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That's right.

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It was to buy the plane tickets for your first trip out to Texas.

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So, yeah, I'll go into that in a little bit.

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But Chuck E. Cheese, so it was my first job and I was looking around for jobs and I applied

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everywhere and I just happened to go to Chuck E. Cheese and was like, let me give it a shot.

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They hired me on as a game room attendant and we've talked a little bit about what that

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means, but basically the game room attendant did pretty much everything.

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They bus the tables, they fixed all the games, they restocked the games with tickets back

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in the days when games would spit out tickets.

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Now they have it really easy because they just spit out a card and you can just swipe

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it and whenever you play a game, the tickets just get added to your card, which I'm like,

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that is absolutely genius.

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And so I would also have to bus the tables and then at night, I would have to wipe down

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all 100 games, bus all 100 tables, fill all the cheeses, all the napkins, sweep under

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the tables, refill all the games with tickets and then I'd have to vacuum the whole store

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and then I'd have to mop.

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And it was like pretty big and it was only like one person that did it at night.

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And so it was a lot and I worked there for, I think it was 10 months and I just saved

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up all my money and I remember like a lot of people would be like, hey, like let's go

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out to E or let's go do this thing.

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So a lot of people, they would want to go out and I'd be like, no, man, I'm trying to

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save money for my car.

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So when it was time to buy the car, I remember I looked in like the newspaper and all that

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good stuff and there was like this huge car lot.

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And so we went up there and it was this 96 Buick.

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My test drove it and it was like right in my price range.

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And I, that's when I learned about tax tag and title because the sticker price is what's

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on the sticker, but they also have to charge you for your taxes, your title and your like

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licenses and stuff.

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So that's usually an extra like 200 to $400.

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So I learned that real quick.

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But I remember like my grandpa went and checked out the car and they were like, yeah, this

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car was like pretty in pretty good shape and I only have one previous owner.

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And so I bought the car cash and yeah, man, I picked Mike up.

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I think it was before he got his truck.

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And so I was his ride for a while and then when he got his truck, he could drive on his

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own, but yeah, it was, it was cool to have your own car, man.

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Now my parents paid for the insurance, but I bought the car and I paid for the gas.

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So I mean, it was like, I guess it was a fair deal.

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And I think if I remember correctly, it wasn't like $2,500, something like that.

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I think it's how much it was.

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It was $2,500 with a tax tag and title.

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So I bought it straight up cash.

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So that was, that's kind of, I'm not proud of a whole lot of things in my life.

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I mean, there are a couple of things that I'm proud of, but like that's one that I'm

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really proud of.

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But yeah, so yeah, enough about me.

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We'll ask some more questions about me later.

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But Micah, we've talked about your love of planes, man.

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Where did that stem from and what have you always wanted to be when you, when you grow

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I was a kid off as a kid.

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I grew up part of my life in Germany because my dad was in the military and so was over

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there and there was an airport over there in Frankfurt, big massive airport.

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And you know, I don't know.

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I saw a lot of where we were living.

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There was planes flying over the house and things like that.

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So got to see that quite a bit.

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But the 747, the big jumbo jet, you know, the four engine, double deck or son of a gun.

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I don't know.

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It was just, it was just massive.

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And at the time, this was like pre-911.

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So you know, there was like an observation deck and I just remember you'd go out on the

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observation deck and you could see everything they were doing.

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And it's just such a, they were just such massive machines and all these people and you

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know, I don't know, it was a glamorous looking life.

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And so I wanted to be a pilot, like a commercial pilot when I grew up.

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But I'll tell you this much, I kind of got into that world a little bit.

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I actually went to a flight school that was geared towards getting you to be a commercial

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pilot.

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And man, I did not like the lifestyle actually.

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I mean, a lot changed.

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So it kind of weirded to go back, right?

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So being in a military kid, you know, my parents weren't exactly there a ton, right?

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Especially my daddy wasn't there a ton.

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And you know, a lot of what I had, I'll have a lot of friends who were pilots and things

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like that.

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And that's the biggest thing is, you know, they really don't get to see their family

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a ton, especially right now because there's a big pilot shortage.

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They don't get to see their family a ton.

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They're on the road all the time.

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And you know, they missed those moments like the holidays are coming up, right?

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Like we talked about Thanksgiving, Christmas, like, you know, you won't be able to see them,

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things like that.

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And so I don't know, there was that and there's, it's different when it's a job at a business,

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right?

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And so it's fun, your own is fun when you fly and you're on somebody else's schedule

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and on somebody else's time.

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It's a job and a business, right?

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And so it just kind of turns you off after a while.

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So priorities change a little bit.

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But now I still love planes, love planes of all kind.

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But and here's the thing about Michael.

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Michael can just look at a plane and Michael can even like close his eyes and he can hear

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a plane and he can tell what kind of plane it is.

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Is that true?

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That's that's true, right?

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Yeah, for for most things.

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Now, a lot of people, whenever I say planes, they're like, Oh, military stuff, military

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stuff.

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I know like basic stuff, but really not much.

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I'm kind of a different guy.

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I like commercial aviation a ton.

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But yeah, it's, it's a lot of that.

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And I guess over time, it's gotten kind of easier just because, you know, I think we've

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talked about cars and stuff like that on here and how there's kind of just general, you

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know, a few different makes and models and just kind of all the same, but a little different

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per manufacturer.

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It's kind of the same thing with planes now.

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They're all pretty much the same in design, except for a few little nuances.

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But there's a lot less of them and they're a lot more just kind of generic now.

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So it's a little easier now.

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Used to be it was a little harder.

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Funny thing about Micah is that I'm never flying.

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Like I'll tell him like where I'm going and stuff.

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And he'll be like, yeah, I'm tracking your flight right now.

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He's like, you're going to be flying on this plane.

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And this plane is pretty cool because it'll give you like the history of it and be like,

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oh yeah, these are, these are not made that anymore.

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There's not that many more of these.

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So enjoy this flight.

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And so you recently took that flight on one of the, I guess it was the last remaining

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plane of its kind or something.

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And so to me, man, I'm like, I want a plane like it flies as long as it flies.

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Like I don't care about Micah.

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Like he loves planes.

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Now let me ask you, so do you think at this point, like knowing what you know, would you

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just rather flying be like a hobby?

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Like you want to get your pilot's license and you would just like do it as a hobby or

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would you still want to be like a private pilot or?

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I would love for it to just be a hobby.

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Have my own plane, go out and do my own thing.

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Like, you know, in the morning go burn a little fuel, that sort of thing.

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Really and truly, if I had to do it for a job and a career, I think I would want to be

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more of the instructor route.

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I like to teach and so it'd be nice.

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And that way you still get to be home a lot.

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Yeah.

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Tell them about the game that you have played about planes.

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I mean, it's not really a game, but yeah.

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Flight simulator.

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Poor, poor Chris.

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I'll tell you this much.

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Whenever we shared a room together, how, how many hours do you think I put in?

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Yeah, it was playing.

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Here's the thing about flight sim.

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You would even before we had to share a room, like even when we lived back in Georgia, you

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be like, yeah, I'm flying to Brazil right now or I'm flying to some, some, but like

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you, like it's like in real time.

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So you would just kind of like once you got in the air and all that stuff, like you would

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just kind of let it fly.

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And then you'd be like, hold on, bro, we got to pause our game because I got to land this

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plane because it's about time for me to land.

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But like he would be, he would, he would like nowhere he was at and he'd be like, yeah,

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bro, we got to stop real quick.

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Yeah, we got to stop playing basketball because I got to go play in this plane.

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So yeah, that's my wife has to deal with that.

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So she also got really, really mad because on the, you know, more modern flights.

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So like even in that flight simulator, you could pause it, but now you could pause it

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like midair and you do whatever you need to do.

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I just don't like doing that.

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I like keeping it real time and everything going like it should and things like that.

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So it's just funny because she gets kind of agitated about it.

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Sometimes like, you know, you could pause it was like, Oh, I know, but like, we're, you

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know, we got to fly this approach right now.

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You know, that's actually, that's actually a weird fact.

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I don't think really anybody knows about me.

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We're divulging this on the donut box podcast.

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So flight simulators actually how I learned how to fly more complex systems.

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Like, you know, most people, like what I flight train on in real life or Cessna is the small

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like single prop planes, but you know, flight simulators, you could fly all the way up to

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the airliners and that's always what I've been interested in.

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I had no idea how autopilot worked or, you know, any of the radio frequencies and things.

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Honestly, it was like trial and error over the years and then come to find out you start

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putting two and two together.

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And then finally I found how to do autopilot.

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That made my life a lot easier.

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A lot of people talk mess, especially on flight simulator of like, Oh, you know, oh, you turn

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on the autopilot, you're not really flying.

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For me, where you're honing your skills, like, yes, there are skills and just regular flying

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or you hone your skills or take off and landing because those are the most critical points,

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especially landings.

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And that's always my favorite is, you know, getting to do that.

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But you know, 33,000 feet maintaining yourself.

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It's boring.

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You know, you can let the autopilot do that in my mind.

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Yeah.

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I got two more things I'm going to say that we'll get off this, but number one, our friend

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Aaron, he's actually a pretty successful YouTuber and that's a lot of what he makes on his channel

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is a flight sim videos.

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And so they're actually pretty good and he's actually pretty entertaining.

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So yeah, he's got great content actually.

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So shout out to Aaron.

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If you're listening, he's a cool guy.

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He's actually, I was just going to say, go look him up.

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Yeah.

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Aaron Reins, go look him up for sure.

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And then number two, my question was, now, some of y'all have never seen this movie.

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But Soul Plane, how do you feel about that movie?

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How do you get like upset about some of the things about the plane and Soul Plane?

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No, because it's a comedy movie.

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So you know, it's going to be really inaccurate.

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I mean, you can't have spinners on there and whatnot or hydraulics or any, you know, some

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of the features that the plane had there.

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No.

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And what I do get mad is sometimes in TV and movies, they, what they'll use is they'll

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use stock footage of like a plane taking off or landing, right?

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And the hard part for me is there are some basics.

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Like, I know this is to people who don't care, right?

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And they're just watching TV.

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It doesn't matter.

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But for me, it's like they'll show a DC three, which is like this little prop plane, right?

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And then the inside is the, this main, you know, cabin, huge passenger airline and you're

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going, okay, yeah, right.

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That thing sits six people.

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How is there 18 in a first class and a business class cabin that don't make no sense?

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Like, that's the stuff that pisses me off.

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I'm like, see the logistics just, it doesn't work out.

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So your senior year of high school, we've talked about it a little bit before, but it

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was kind of a tumultuous time.

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I don't know, most people senior year is a little interesting, but you know, part of

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your senior year, you knew that you were moving to Texas.

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So kind of how did that go?

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Like what do you mean about me moving to Texas and how my attitude was?

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Yeah, like, I know that senior ride is definitely kicked in, but it was, it was an interesting

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time for Chris.

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We're just going to divulge this a little bit too.

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We've talked about it, but to put it in full picture here, you know, he started dating

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this particular gal.

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We've talked about her in the past and then at the same time he had his car too.

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And not just that, but he was a part of the police explored program.

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And about that point was like, yeah, kind of stepped away from church and the youth group

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kind of thing at the time.

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So like, tell us about what was going on with, I guess, dark side Chris over here.

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What was going on?

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Oh, if we have to, that is not a proud moment in my life.

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It was basically looking back on it, I'm like, yeah, man, I just squandered that senior year,

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but I had been not bullied, but just kind of treated poorly by a lot of people I knew,

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not Michael, but like it was like, man, I tried to reach out and have friends and just

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didn't really feel like I fit in.

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Except when I started the police internship program, that's when I started having friends.

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And bro, once I found out that I was moving to Texas mentally, I was like giving the middle

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finger to everybody, I would just like, you know what, I'm moving to Texas, I'm going

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to burn all the bridges I have right now.

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I was like, I never go see none of y'all fools again.

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And so I remember, so the girl that I was dating, she broke up with me in January.

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And of course me, I was like, still trying to hold on and like still trying to be the

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friend and she was like kind of using that.

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And like as soon as I found out I got accepted into Texas, I just came over there and was

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like, yeah, bro, I'm moving to Texas by sorry about you.

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I don't care.

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And she was like, but, but, but like what about this and that?

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And I was like, yeah, bro, I don't care.

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I'm moving to Texas.

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Even with the youth group leaders, bro, that's the time that we pepper sprayed each other

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in the parking lot.

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Or I got pepper sprayed in the parking lot.

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And yeah, and so then the youth leaders were trying to say stuff to me and I was like,

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yeah, bro, I don't really care.

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Like I just, I didn't really care.

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I was in a bad spot that whole year, man.

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Just cause I was like kind of tired of doing like the good, goody two shoes thing.

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It wasn't, I was like going out and partying or, you know, cussing people out or anything

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like that.

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I just was making a lot of decisions that weren't me.

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And I think I was doing it out of a lot of pain.

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And I was just kind of frustrated with things that were going on at home and mostly between

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like me and my dad.

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And so I was just like ready to get out.

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Like I was just ready to leave the house.

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I was ready to be done with Augusta, Georgia.

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And so I just had a really bad attitude and like looking back on it, man, I wish I would

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have cherished like those moments and would have, because if I couldn't go back, I'd do

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my senior year way differently.

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Like I goofed off.

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I skipped school a lot and I was just like, yeah, man, like just forget this.

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So it was not a good time for good old Christopher.

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That was, that's not a problem moment in his life.

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Now, now as negative as that was, we'll talk about this.

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Where would, where would Christopher senior year go and skip school?

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Like if you, if you skip school, what was it?

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Oh, so here's the thing.

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And my mom is going to totally be upset when she hears this because my mom doesn't even

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know.

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So I'm going to confess this on the doughnut box.

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I told you, I told you, season three were going to be edgy.

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Basically what I would just really do is I would like go to my home room and I'd go

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to my first period class and then I would like fake sick and then I would just go home.

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That's really what I would do.

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I would go home and watch TV and I even remember like all my birthday.

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I pretended to go to school, but then after like my parents left for work, I just came

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right back home and I watched TV.

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So like I skipped school, like not to go anywhere, but like I just skip school just

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so I could stay at home and watch TV.

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Yeah.

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I didn't like go out to lunch.

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I never skipped school with anybody.

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And it's not like we have like a day to go to the same school.

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So it's not like we would go and hang out.

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You know, I think that was probably for the best.

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You and I would have gotten in a lot of trouble if we went to the same school.

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So wouldn't it be?

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So I just was like, yeah, I'm just not going to go to school today.

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Like, and in my mind, I was like, oh yeah, I got like this many unexcused absences before

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I graduate or before they start calling my parents.

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So I was, I was, I was calculating.

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I was like, yeah, it was bad.

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And you think about that stuff.

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And then you also think about, uh, I have this many unexcused absences before I can't

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exempt in some of my exams at the end of the semester.

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Oh yeah, man.

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You think about all the little requirements and then you work around that side note.

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I actually, one time I skipped school and this is my junior year, but I just remember,

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I don't know, this, it was perfect because this guy had his girlfriend's house like right

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outside the high school and we had a class that was right outside and they would allow

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you to walk outside between, you know, different parts of the school.

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So we conjured up this plan.

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We were like, yeah, it was like me and three other guys were like, yeah.

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So what we're going to do, he had his car parked right over there.

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We're like, we're just going to walk over there.

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There's a little fence.

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We're going to jump the fence.

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We're going to get in the car and go and we'll be back before the next period.

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Man, we, we got out there.

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We start driving.

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We're like, okay.

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So what do we do?

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We were like, so it was almost like prisoners in a prison break.

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Like, but once we actually got out, we were like, okay, what are we going to do?

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And he's just like, I don't know.

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And then one person was like, you want to go to cracker barrel?

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It's like, sure.

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But then there was a bunch of 16 year olds who went to cracker barrel and then toys are

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us and then went back for our next period.

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So what a wild time.

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It is like, it is like prison.

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And that's the difference like between high school and college.

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Cause once you go to college, like you feel so free.

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You feel like you can come and go as you please.

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You don't feel like you're stuck there.

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And so yeah, I totally get it, man.

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I totally get it 100%.

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But yeah.

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Sorry mom.

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If you're listening, which I know she is.

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I was skipping school senior year.

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Like I said, not a great time for Christopher.

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I was skipping school and I was part of the police internship program.

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So you do the math of how that worked out morally.

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Hey, it worked out.

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It worked out.

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You're a great person now.

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But speaking of bad times on myself.

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Yeah.

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Is there any time you want to ask me about that maybe, I don't know that you remember

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that was interesting times for me.

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Interesting times for you, man.

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I know that because I was going to bring up the fact that you skipped football practice

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to go go to work.

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But we won't.

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We won't divulge that story.

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But yeah, I think it was, I think whenever this was kind of when our friendship was like

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on the rocks and I was not in a good place and you were dating that girl, you know, who

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I'm talking about.

466
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,560
And that.

467
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:53,560
Yeah.

468
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,480
And you just kind of seem like just miserable.

469
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,200
You were working at the airport.

470
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,160
You were like working really, really hard.

471
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,240
And you bro, you were just 16 hours.

472
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,920
16 hour days, bro.

473
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,960
And like I hardly ever saw you just because you were like, you were exhausted, man.

474
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,920
You kind of, you kind of just seemed like you were just, you were just surviving at

475
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,080
that point.

476
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,120
So how is that time for you?

477
00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:21,560
Tell us, tell us a little bit.

478
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,320
You don't have to divulge all those secrets.

479
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,480
So it was actually interesting times.

480
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:32,080
So that particular, I guess you kind of have your first, your first major relationship or

481
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,400
your first like love, love that you have.

482
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,400
And that was her for me.

483
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,920
And you know, it was also one of those relationships to where you blow past a lot of red flags

484
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,760
and you try to make the puzzle piece fit even though it doesn't.

485
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,080
We've all had those relationships, right?

486
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,920
But I definitely have.

487
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,400
I'll be the first to raise both my hands for that.

488
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,400
Yeah.

489
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,400
It's just like, you see all the red flags.

490
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,360
I mean, there was so many red flags for her from the very beginning.

491
00:25:57,360 --> 00:25:59,240
Honestly, she didn't even want to date me.

492
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:04,120
And she told me that straight up from the beginning, but I wanted to date her.

493
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:07,760
And you know, anytime you put yourself in a situation where it's like they don't want

494
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,560
to and you try to force the issue.

495
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,320
I wouldn't say like they have the upper hand, but the kind of person that she was, she used

496
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,320
that to her advantage.

497
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,640
So that wasn't good.

498
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,680
But I'll just say this, man, it was a real toxic relationship.

499
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,560
And she was a very broken person.

500
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,840
And what's really hard about dating broken people is you want to try to fix them, right?

501
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,800
And you think, oh man, like nobody else can fix them, but I can because we have the special

502
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,960
connection and all this other stuff.

503
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:42,520
What that ended up getting me to was I ended up actually living with her.

504
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,280
And this was, I mean, I was fresh out of high school.

505
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:53,880
Like I had graduated in, when people graduate high school, May, I guess was where my graduation

506
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,240
was.

507
00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,960
And I was, I guess, living with her and her family by September, October, something like

508
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:01,960
that.

509
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,960
And I technically like I was living and that's the reason Chris wouldn't see me a lot is

510
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:12,120
because pretty much what happened is that family knew that I was working long hours.

511
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:15,960
They lived kind of right around the corner where our house was or where Chris and I were

512
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,240
living was about 30 minutes away from the airport.

513
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,080
So it was a little bit of a drive.

514
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,120
And most of the time I would get off at 12, one in the morning.

515
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:27,400
So they were just like, you know what, why don't you just come over here?

516
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,640
And so what had happened is, of course, I moved a bunch of my stuff over there.

517
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,080
So I was essentially living there, right?

518
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:41,320
What ends up happening is this was a very traditional Mexican home.

519
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:47,400
And basically, you know, the man brings in the money and the women take care of the rest.

520
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,200
And so pretty much that was my job.

521
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,800
And you put the money into the pool with the rest of the family.

522
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:57,280
So pretty much that's what happened was my paycheck went towards the family and paying

523
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,960
bills.

524
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:05,760
And so it was a real, you know, I was a part of the family for the most part.

525
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,280
Well, her stepfather, oh, by the way, guys, if you can hear a cat meowing in the background,

526
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,680
that is, yeah, we're fostering a cat right now and they're being very vocal.

527
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,000
So bear with us.

528
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,920
You get to hear them wanting to talk on the podcast.

529
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:26,000
But pretty much her stepfather actually, like the other man in the family pretty much passed

530
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,080
away unexpectedly.

531
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:34,280
And so that kind of fell to me and was working, was working, you know, 16 hours trying to

532
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,040
try to make that money.

533
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,880
And I'll tell you what, man, that was a that's a hard time for a 19 year old.

534
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,200
I wasn't expecting all that.

535
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,160
Nothing really prepares you for that.

536
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:50,000
Especially, you know, most 19 year olds, they go out on their own, you know, get an apartment

537
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,500
first.

538
00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:54,840
And but it was full on, you know, taking care of a whole family.

539
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:55,840
So that's pretty crazy.

540
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,680
But yeah, man, so that was a crazy part of my life.

541
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:04,880
But I tell you what, man, we've also had some some great times as well.

542
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:10,400
And one that I want to talk about, and it's fairly recent, I wouldn't say fairly recent,

543
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,320
it's been over a year now.

544
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:19,200
But you know, Chris went from one business to another one industry to another, and actually

545
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:25,000
found his dream role, speaking of dream jobs, you know, in the dream profession that he wants

546
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,200
to be a part of.

547
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:31,800
Chris, I want you to talk about that a little bit, because, you know, that's awesome.

548
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,040
And especially anyways, I'll let you explain.

549
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,040
Oh, yeah.

550
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,680
So I saw it's actually kind of stepping back into that dream role.

551
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:46,200
Because so like before my divorce and everything, I was in ministry, I was a kid's pastor, then

552
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,240
going through the divorce and everything had to step out of it for a while, just to kind

553
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,280
of heal and, you know, get everything back on the right track.

554
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,280
Right.

555
00:29:55,280 --> 00:30:00,200
So it was it was it was definitely tough because walking through divorce was a hard season.

556
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:07,040
But man, man, it's going on two years almost, going back into ministry, man.

557
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,040
And I love it.

558
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,120
I get to teach kids about Jesus every day.

559
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,840
But more than that, I get to help other people who want to do that.

560
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:22,320
So I've been doing kids ministry for going on seven years now as staff and as like volunteers.

561
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,920
So I've been doing it for a while so I can help other people who want to do it.

562
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,760
But before that, I did like prison and youth ministry.

563
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,280
So not youth that are in prison, but I did youth ministry and prison ministry.

564
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:42,640
I went to Bible school, got all my Jedi powers so I can marry people and perform funerals.

565
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,160
But yeah, man, it's great.

566
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,280
I get to enjoy what I do every single day.

567
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,960
I get to help other people who are wanting to do the same thing, kind of help them get

568
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,600
to an elevated level, man.

569
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,720
And so it's really cool.

570
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,840
Never thought I'd get paid for doing something that I love, but you know, it's great.

571
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:00,840
Kids are awesome.

572
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,840
I get to be myself.

573
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,600
I get to tell awesome jokes.

574
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,560
And the cool thing about working with kids, sometimes it's better than working with adults

575
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:13,760
because kids like they get it and they don't have so many blocks and you can be fun and

576
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,240
goofy.

577
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,560
But at the still same time, like people underestimate kids and how smart they are.

578
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,120
So it's really cool, man.

579
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,000
But yeah, so that's a little bit about me stepping into my dream role.

580
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:31,520
I had one thing, one fun fact that people don't know about Micah is that Micah loves

581
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,360
to cook.

582
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,280
So Micah, when did your like love for cooking start?

583
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,560
I don't even know.

584
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:44,800
I kind of do remember as a kid even, and you know, maybe this was a different time.

585
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:50,200
Do you remember that, you know, like cable, prime time cable, there used to be like cooking

586
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,200
shows like that?

587
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,920
That's not a thing anymore for sure.

588
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,680
But you remember the Emeril Lagassee, like I remember he was a big one, be like 8pm,

589
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,320
like it would just be like on a prime time thing and he would like have his own cooking

590
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,040
show and stuff like that, or even like Rachel Ray at the time.

591
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,560
And you know, that's more like on food network stuff.

592
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,360
But I just remember watching that and even like Iron Chef, I don't know if you've ever

593
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,240
seen that before where it's like a competition show from the 90s where they have to cook

594
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,400
something from a secret ingredient and stuff.

595
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,000
And that's pretty cool.

596
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,920
But it wasn't until I moved out on my own.

597
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,160
And you know, you got to start cooking for yourself.

598
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,080
And I don't know.

599
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,160
Here's what's dumb, man.

600
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:37,520
I don't know if you were like this, but when I first got out on my own, I thought for whatever

601
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,840
reason, okay, you do what college kids do and eat ramen every meal.

602
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,120
And that's about how that's going to go.

603
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,080
And you know, I started doing that.

604
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,240
And I started actually having some health problems.

605
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,000
Like I wouldn't say health problems, but like minor health problems, right?

606
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,680
Like kind of blurred vision, some weird stuff going on, went to the doctor.

607
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,600
You know, the doctor tells me, yeah, it's because you can't eat ramen every freaking

608
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,600
meal.

609
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,000
It's full of salt and you have no meat protein.

610
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,920
Like there's nothing there really.

611
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,480
MSG, yeah.

612
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,360
And so it's like you're really not getting nourished at all.

613
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,840
And so I just remember that doctor saying, you know, if you're going to eat ramen, you

614
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:22,360
have to doctor it up or at least add some meat or protein or something to it.

615
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:28,240
And that's kind of how it weirdly started was, and you know, even whenever I was a kid,

616
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,760
summertime, I was a what they call a latchkey kid, right?

617
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,440
You had to stay inside and wasn't allowed to go outside.

618
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,560
And so sometimes I would start doctoring up some stuff.

619
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:43,440
And one thing that I would doctor up with seasoning was ramen, but I never like added anything

620
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,440
else to it.

621
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,640
So I already kind of knew how to tweak with some seasoning because of the back then.

622
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,800
And then I started adding like sausage or something like that to it, right?

623
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,080
Like you can go buy a pack of sausage real cheap.

624
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,600
So I cut some of that up, put it in there.

625
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,200
And it kind of became that way.

626
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,080
And then it became, okay, how can I make this?

627
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:07,320
And basically it became, how can I make this cheap food, not be cheap food or not feel like

628
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,440
cheap food, right?

629
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:16,320
And that's kind of how it started, you know, even like Chef Boyardy ravioli, there's some

630
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:21,480
things you could do to Chef Boyardy ravioli that makes it like, oh, shoot, that's, that's,

631
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,920
you know, you can't even really tell that comes from a can stuff.

632
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,680
And that's kind of just where it started.

633
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:33,680
And then after a while, what one of my main dishes that I really like to make is schnitzel

634
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:39,000
like German schnitzel, like it's pork and it's, yeah, our listener from Frankfurt is

635
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,760
probably like, oh yeah.

636
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,760
But it's really good.

637
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,760
My grandmother has a recipe.

638
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,920
And believe it or not, I didn't even ask her about it.

639
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,040
Literally I just, I had just seen her do it for years.

640
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,480
And I figured one day I bet I could replicate that.

641
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,040
And we had all the ingredients on hand.

642
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,720
So I replicate it.

643
00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:02,080
And I tell you, my wife devoured it, loved it.

644
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:08,480
And pretty much why I love cooking is, I don't know, it's a lot of times what I have issues

645
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,080
with in life is a lack of control.

646
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,840
I'm sure a lot of people can relate to that is, but cooking, you can control a lot of

647
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,840
aspects, right?

648
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,160
You can, you can control how fast you cook it, how slow you cook it, you can control

649
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,440
how big you dice the onions that are going to go.

650
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,760
I mean, you could scale up, scale down, you could micro manage the crap out of it, or

651
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,840
you can just enjoy yourself and be like, I don't really, you know, we're going to have

652
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:33,840
fun with it.

653
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:34,840
I don't know.

654
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,200
That's kind of what I like about it.

655
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,280
They said that if you work with your mind that you should rest with your hands.

656
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,680
And so like you, you do a lot of like, I would consider what you do working with your mind,

657
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,680
right?

658
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,000
You're not physically like doing a construction job.

659
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,520
So like cooking, you're able to physically prepare something with your hands and you're

660
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,480
able to have like a finished product.

661
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:59,120
And so you're like, Oh yeah, I can physically and tangibly see the results of the work that

662
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,440
I've done and you feel accomplished.

663
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,520
So I totally get it, man.

664
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,520
That's pretty cool.

665
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,280
Other than the schnitzel, are there any other favorite things that you like to cook?

666
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,800
Other things that I like to cook, I make a really good pasta.

667
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,920
I mean, pasta is super easy, right?

668
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:19,400
But that's one of those other ones that you find out you pull some pasta.

669
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:26,320
You can make sauces really out of anything and you know, go with it.

670
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,920
Schnitzel is the main bit, man.

671
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,760
Actually, you know, I just made some tonight for my wife and myself, but I can do a really

672
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,280
good potato soup too.

673
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,960
I love doing potato soup.

674
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,240
So yeah, there's quite a bit of stuff, man.

675
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:44,000
Like I probably, I'll probably think of a bunch more after we get off the podcast, right?

676
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,600
Be like, Oh yeah, I should have said that.

677
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,920
Well, that's great because I cannot like cook to save my life, bro.

678
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:55,760
I can cook like chicken and mac and cheese and I can cook a little bit, but man, the

679
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:02,080
basics do, but like if it were up to me, I'd starve and my poor wife, whenever she met

680
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,040
me, bro, I was eating the Totino's pizzas.

681
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,920
I was eating the chef boy already.

682
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:12,200
I was eating the bachelor food and dude, I cannot eat chef boy already anymore.

683
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,440
Like I just, I've eaten so much of it that I just can't.

684
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,720
But yeah, just makes you sick.

685
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:19,720
Yeah.

686
00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:24,480
My brother actually went to culinary school and so he could cook phenomenally, but like

687
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,640
my gift is not cooking.

688
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:32,880
Every time I watch Hell's Kitchen, I'm like, man, if I was on that show, I would die.

689
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:38,160
I was like, that is not my gift, but I enjoy watching people cook and I enjoy that.

690
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,440
It's not fun for me.

691
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,680
I will clean, so I have no problem washing the dishes.

692
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,600
So that's kind of our deal.

693
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,280
If my wife cooks nine times out of 10, I'll wash the dishes.

694
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,400
So that's like my contribution to that.

695
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,280
But heck, man, even camping, it's like, I'm camp chef.

696
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,520
You can't be washing the dishes afterwards.

697
00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:59,520
Yeah, bro.

698
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,520
I don't care.

699
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,080
Like, I would like, dude, I'll wash the dishes.

700
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,080
Like, I don't care.

701
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,080
You cook.

702
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,760
So, but yeah, man, it's pretty cool.

703
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:12,320
So kind of shifting gears a little bit, talking about season two, we just capped it.

704
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,720
What are some of your favorite things about season two?

705
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:18,600
Or you're like, man, we really improved on this.

706
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:27,280
I think, honestly, we, something was different about the flow each time that I listened from

707
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:32,680
last season to this season or like the beginning of season two to now.

708
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,440
I feel like we're a lot smoother in what we're saying.

709
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,720
I feel like we're getting a lot.

710
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:42,120
I know this sounds dumb because even a year in, we were a lot more comfortable than when

711
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:47,920
we started, but still getting very, very comfortable in the flows and what we do and what we do

712
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:48,920
well.

713
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,400
And I really think that we're honing in some of those things that we're doing well.

714
00:38:53,400 --> 00:39:00,240
You know, what I like about it is because of course we listen to each week as well.

715
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:06,800
But from my personal opinion and tell me if you think differently, there are some weeks,

716
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,800
we're all human, right?

717
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,080
There are some weeks where we have better weeks than others.

718
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:16,760
And I feel like we've gotten to the point now where even between clever editing from

719
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:22,880
Chris and kind of where we are, I can't really tell too much anymore.

720
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,560
Oh, that was when I was having a bad week.

721
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,160
Like sometimes you can, but not really anymore.

722
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:33,920
And used to, I feel like in the first season, parts of the second season, like early on,

723
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,000
I felt like that was something that you could really see.

724
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,200
Or I can definitely tell like, yeah, I was off this weekend or I was off this week, you

725
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,200
know what I mean?

726
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,200
Yeah, for sure, man.

727
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:48,840
I, again, I feel like going back and listening to it, I can definitely tell that there was

728
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:54,560
like a lid on myself and you because we're like very careful what we're going to say

729
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:59,920
and how are people going to perceive this, but I feel like this season, like they've

730
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,040
gotten to know more of us.

731
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,280
And so we've gotten to, we've gotten to just be able to flow and groove.

732
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,400
One thing that we did find our groove on the donut hole, I have been enjoying the quizzes

733
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,840
and I feel like those have been a good thing that kind of helped beef up the show and adding

734
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:21,840
segments like the Taiyo shoes, could you trip in or the your fired segment?

735
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,440
I think those have been great segments, man.

736
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:29,560
So changing it up, keeping it fresh in certain ways, in certain areas, you know, that's been

737
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:30,560
really fun.

738
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,640
Even with like the free flowing, I've enjoyed that.

739
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:34,800
It's been good.

740
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,840
I've enjoyed it so much.

741
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:45,080
The one thing I do like more about season one, I do enjoy the intros more from season

742
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:51,800
one and I do enjoy like the stories because those are some of our like best stories are

743
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:59,000
in season one, just with like the camping trip and like maybe, maybe season towards the end

744
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,680
of season three or season four won't go back and retell those stories because not everybody

745
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,160
has heard them, but I definitely enjoy those.

746
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:12,200
But like it was so cool thinking up like the Valentine's Day or the Christmas episode.

747
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,240
That was like one of our first ones.

748
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:19,640
And I, I know that like this past one was good, but I hands down still one of my favorite

749
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:25,400
episodes of all time is the first Christmas one.

750
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:31,240
My all time favorite episode though is the first Valentine's Day one from beginning to

751
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:32,240
end.

752
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:33,240
Yeah, that was hard to tell.

753
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:37,280
Like it's, it's like from beginning to end, it's just such a solid episode.

754
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:42,240
It makes me laugh so hard, especially so hands down, I would say that's probably the best

755
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:44,120
intro that we did.

756
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:49,600
And for those of you who don't remember it, it's the intro where it was the radio show

757
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:58,880
and it's oral expressions and we're talking about if you've never heard Sunday slow jams.

758
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,880
That's what we were going for with that.

759
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,200
And man, I think every time I, every time I listen back to it, I just, I just crack

760
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,880
up because it's just such a great, it was, you know, every Sunday, it was like every

761
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,880
Sunday you could tune in and you would hear it and it's just, it was so dead on.

762
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,840
The Christian radio one was pretty good intro wise.

763
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:23,360
And then there was another one that I was like, I think when we did gangsters paradise,

764
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,080
I thought that one was pretty good for last, we did that for last Christmas.

765
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,680
I don't know why we did that for last Christmas, but it was still pretty good.

766
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:31,720
Well, and think about this.

767
00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:37,640
We also made our first animated video this year, kind of jumping over to, you know, YouTube

768
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,160
and what we've done kind of in our other work over here.

769
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,480
You know, think about it, that's, that's, we've had our first content that we've done

770
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:53,240
together put out this year, you know, since, since a long time, you know, we haven't put

771
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:55,240
content in a very long time.

772
00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:56,240
Yeah, since 2012.

773
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,240
Since 2012, I think.

774
00:42:58,240 --> 00:42:59,240
Or 2011.

775
00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:03,880
That was like our last time that we actually made an official video together.

776
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,080
No, it was 2012 because that's when we made the cops video.

777
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,720
Yeah, it was 2012.

778
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:11,640
Which you can find all that on TV trash can.com.

779
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:17,600
But you know, it's just amazing how, how much we've done.

780
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:22,960
I mean, trash can travel, that section of YouTube is really blown up with, with a lot

781
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:23,960
of views.

782
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,280
If we have any listeners from there, welcome from that, from that area.

783
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,280
Plane Lovers Unite, I'm sure that's why you're here.

784
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,560
You're probably disappointed because I don't talk about planes on here at all very much

785
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,280
besides Donut Holds.

786
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:42,360
We're gonna like, I don't know, have one episode where you just talk about planes the whole

787
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,360
time.

788
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:44,360
It can be like a.

789
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,840
Oh man, you heard it here first.

790
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:46,840
We're gonna have the plane episode.

791
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,640
It will be a bonus episode.

792
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,120
It won't be like a regular Donut Box podcast episode.

793
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,280
It can just be like a bonus episode.

794
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,840
It's like an optional, an optional if you want to listen to an episode, I guess.

795
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,800
Yeah, I think we should do that, bro.

796
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:01,800
Sounds good.

797
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,960
We get, we can do it for, for that fan base.

798
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:10,120
So heck yeah, but you know, something that I'm super excited for talking about the future

799
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,640
in season three.

800
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:17,760
You know, kind of what I was alluding to before and how, you know, each season we've

801
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,800
kind of gotten more in our groove and how you've talked about, you know, how we have

802
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,560
gotten looser and how we've talked about more things.

803
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:31,360
And I'm really thinking season three, man.

804
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,800
I've already started working on some content for the next episode.

805
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,440
And I don't know when I say edgy, I'm not talking about being like super weird and out

806
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:44,600
there, but at the same time, like cussing, those things that we found off limits before

807
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,600
maybe they're not off limits.

808
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,840
Yeah, we're not talking about cussing like a sailor or anything like that, but you are

809
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,400
going to get to know the dark side, not just kidding, not the dark sides, but like the

810
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:55,400
dark side.

811
00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:01,200
We're not serial killers, but pulling back the layers, man, pulling back the layers.

812
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,240
Like there was a period in our friendship that we were not friends that we did not speak

813
00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:06,520
to each other for a while.

814
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,920
So you guys will probably get to hear about that.

815
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:15,200
So the nitty gritty, the real life, true crime.

816
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,200
Just kidding.

817
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,200
There is no true crime.

818
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,520
There was no crime in that one.

819
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,120
Besides we weren't friends for a little bit.

820
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,880
There was a crime, but it is what it is.

821
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,960
So of course you'll have to find that out on a future episode.

822
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,880
But but yeah, we'll talk about a lot of that stuff.

823
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:34,720
We'll talk about, you know, for me too, I was thinking about what fries my donuts.

824
00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:39,600
And you know, Chris, we have a we have beef with a lot of things and there are some topics

825
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:44,320
that we stay away from, but at the same time, it's like, you know what, if we have beef

826
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,400
about it and fries our donuts, maybe we should go into it.

827
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,000
Not going to get too crazy, but you know what I mean?

828
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,320
So look forward to that as well.

829
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:58,120
And can I add can I talk about family?

830
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,760
Yeah, your family.

831
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:00,760
I'm just kidding.

832
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:01,760
I'm just kidding.

833
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,760
Yeah, let's divulge it.

834
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:04,760
Let's go out.

835
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,480
Season three, we're going to deval.

836
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:07,480
No, I'm joking.

837
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:12,720
Um, no, see, season three, season three, instead of what fries my donuts is going to be, I'm

838
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:15,080
a puff, puff up and pop off.

839
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,080
I'll be pop off Tuesday.

840
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,080
I'm just kidding.

841
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,200
Pop off Tuesday.

842
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:25,320
Sometimes, sometimes I'll just pop off sometimes at work, like not in a real way, but like

843
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:26,320
I'll just go on comedic.

844
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:31,680
I call them comedic tirades where I pop off about something that's like not really that

845
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,160
big of a deal like Halloween.

846
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,720
Like I'll pop off about it and people find it funny.

847
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:39,000
I don't know why they do, but they find it funny.

848
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,000
Oh yeah.

849
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,000
But sorry.

850
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,480
Another, another side note, but anyways, I totally get you.

851
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,880
I'm the same way.

852
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:51,960
Um, yeah, that's, that's why we're friends because we go on comedic tirades about, about

853
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,680
Halloween's Danville spark day.

854
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,680
Anyways.

855
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,160
Stuff like that.

856
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:58,160
But yeah, man.

857
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,160
So I'm totally good with wrapping this thing up.

858
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:06,120
We got the past, the ghost of the past and the present and the future.

859
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,120
We've talked about all of them.

860
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:13,480
And, uh, you know, I think trash can nation has a good idea of where we're at and where

861
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,560
we're going.

862
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:15,960
But man, it's exciting times.

863
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,920
I can't believe that we've made it to this point.

864
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:25,520
We've made it past 100 episodes this past season and, uh, we're, you know, episode 105

865
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,960
we're sitting at right now and it's crazy.

866
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,880
Well, let's take this donut box podcast out to the trash.

867
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,880
All right.

868
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,040
I'm Michael and I'm Chris and this has been the donor box.

869
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,360
The words of tiny Tim God bless us.

870
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:41,360
Everyone.

871
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,360
Good night.

872
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:58,120
jo.

