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I am your host, Lily Monroe, and I am here today with Mr. David Firooz.
Hi.
Hi, how are you?
Great.
Thank you so much for doing this interview and this podcast episode.
I want to hear more about how the industry is for male escorts, male providers and whatnot.
And yeah, I'd love to hear your thoughts, your opinions, everything, pretty much.
But it's a very kind of like canned perspective because I mean, I don't know any other providers
and the reason I got into it was kind of happenstance.
Just like I was, I've known a lot of sex workers and just as far as actresses and movies are
like dancers and it's just kind of this gradual thing.
And I was in New Orleans living with a stripper and then like, and I met some people, but
when I came back to LA, things were like good and then everything just like, you know, this
is right before COVID too.
Like everything just like, I was like, cause I was like managing a restaurant and then
the owner just wasn't, just didn't want to do it anymore.
And then my best friend just like kicked me out and my girlfriend broke up with me and
I was just like down and out, you know?
But I didn't start escorting then.
Then I was just like on skid row, living in a tent and I was just bored a lot.
So I started just going on dating sites just to like flirt.
Cause I was like, I was like, oh, I'm never going to go out in the world at all.
Cause I just like, you know, my confidence in all that was just completely shot.
But it was funny cause I mean, it just started, you know, I started actually going on dates
and stuff and then they, you know, it never really got to the point where, you know, I
had to explain anything from my like actual life.
So, so there's just like, you know, date wise, I was like, good.
I was on, you know?
And then, and then so, but then, then I needed money and that's when I, and that's when I
was like, well, I'm already going on these dates.
And, and my girlfriend at the time, she used to be an escort and because of COVID all that,
like just financially she decided, well, I, you know, I make really good money doing that.
So I'm going to go back to doing that.
And I was just like, oh, okay.
You know?
And then I was weird because I know, I guess I'm like polyamorous or whatever, but she's
not not at all, you know what I mean?
But she's, she's, she's business, but you know, and I, and it works for her.
Like I, I, I have no problem, but I know when she's doing it, that it is business for her.
She knows that me, I'm a little, I get a little emotional about any sort of intimacy.
Like I have some kind of tie in, I just, I can't separate myself from it, you know?
Which actually I think, because when I started escorting, it was like, I think that's my,
one of my main draws is cause I mean, I am very much like, I'm, I'm all about it on,
you know, on the day.
It's just like, it's, it's, it's real.
It's, it's, you get, you get me, I real reactions to things and, you know, but, but then I,
you know, I can just shut off and go to the next thing, which probably most people can.
I mean, I know women can, but some guys, you know, after they get done being depressed,
yeah.
Like with me, like, yeah, I mean, I like, I like meeting people and if I'm like dumb
with one client, you know, unless I'm, and as much as, as it is business, I still think
of them as like friends.
And sometimes I might have like, started to develop feelings toward one of them.
And that's when I'm like, uh, I can't, this is, I have to cut it off.
But yeah.
Cause otherwise then they're like, well, you could have stopped doing that for work.
And I, you know, it's like change your whole life.
You know?
Oh my God.
I had the client the other day.
And like, he's an older gentleman and it was our first time meeting.
And he, he said he wants to like rescue me and travel the world with me.
You're like, why, but you're stealing, you're stealing everybody else's opportunity to,
you know, experience the wonder that is me, you know?
But I mean, that's a, that's just like people in general, like, you know, I mean, that's
how people date.
I mean, they go and they like, you know, date somebody and then they're just like shackles
on and they're just like, well, you're mine now.
And I don't want you seeing anybody else.
And I, you know, like, who are you talking to?
And it's like, and if that doesn't, I don't see any of that change when they're, you know,
purchasing a service, they're still just like, you know, it's like, you know, like, well,
I bought you.
Yeah.
I mean, I, I, I very sparingly like will actually, I am just like very selective.
I don't just like answer any call.
I like to do like a major, like, just kind of like review of a person and the reasoning
for like wanting me to go and do something.
It's just like, you know, like I, you know, what my girlfriend does, she's like a professional,
you know, and she can just whatever, like, you know, block it or something, you know,
take it out on me later and it's fine.
But it's just like, but me, I'm just like, I would never put, I could never put up with
any of that.
So it's not like, oh, order me.
And then like, you know, I'm coming back and I've got like bruises on my ass and stuff.
It's just not going to happen.
You know, like, yeah.
And it's, it's just like, I'm pretty much, I don't know.
It's just, it's kind of like how I am in the real world.
It's like, you know, if somebody invites me to someplace, am I going to go?
I don't know.
You know, but it's like, but if I am going to go to these things and you have to pay
for my time and transportation and stuff.
And uh, and, and it's funny cause I just never thought that I was, I, in the beginning, I
was like, I was like, it'll never actually get to sex.
You know what I mean?
Like I was just like, you know, I just, just what I knew of women at that time.
I mean, I, cause besides like, you know, I mean, you, I put my picture up in an escort
service and then it's just like, Oh, my phone's off the hook and it's all guys.
Like obviously, you know, and I worked in West Hollywood for like nine years.
So I mean, I was used, I, you know, I know what it's like to be a piece of meat and just,
you know, it was just so, but, but I, you know, I, but I loved it.
It was a great experience.
But um, I remember, I remember at one point I was just like, I was like, man, I could,
I could make a lot of money if I could like, you know, just, you know, cause guys were
constantly like asking me, Oh, you go home with me and stuff like that and all this.
And I was just like, no, I mean, I was at work.
First of all, I'm like, I gotta like finish my job.
And then, um, but I w I just remember like, um, cause I had a lot of gay friends and then,
uh, and they, and they would like go home with guys, like no problem, you know, and
they're like driving, they're like, Hey dude, he bought me this car, you know?
And I'm just like taking the bus.
I'm like, God, you know?
And I was just like, but, um, but that was like, when I, I was a little more like, I
guess by curious back then, then it's like, then I, there was a point where I like realized
that like, I'm just not bisexual even like, I'm definitely, I, I just, I enjoy, um, what
is it like the, like people paying attention to me, you know, it's like, I like that, you
know, it's like, if anybody's doing anything to me, I'm just like, Oh, okay.
That's fine.
I, this doesn't really matter.
But then it's like, but me like reciprocating, it's just not, you know, it's like, I, I very
much like just, I have things that I think are beautiful and I find attractive and things
that turn me on.
And when those things are happening, that's when I like to do that stuff.
I don't, I don't like to, I don't even like to like pretend anything, you know, cause
it's like, I mean, I just, I'm sure I would be awful at.
If I, and I was always, I was always never had any confidence, but I just knew that it
was like, if it was something that I wanted to do, that I was going to do it good.
Yeah.
And I haven't had any complaints, but that, I mean, I do run into a problem where it's
like, yeah, they kind of just want to like take out your whole schedule after, you know,
they're just like, they're like, Oh, and like, they're like setting up like a whole thing
and I just have to like block the number.
I mean, it would be nice to have like repeat clients, I guess, cause I would know like
what the job would entail, but now it's just like, yeah, what I've noticed with people
is it's like, they, they get real like attached and emotional and it's never, it's never easy,
you know?
So, so I just said, it's not that I'm cold, but I don't know.
I just, sometimes I sometimes I'll even make it like, you know, where I'm just kind of
a bad date at the end, you know, where you just kind of just like, you know, where just
make it so they're ready to be like, Oh, okay.
Well, you know, I've been, thank you so much.
It's, it's a lot easier than, you know, just like, Oh God, just the phone just blowing
up and you're just like, what?
Well, what type of screening do you do usually?
I just, I have them, it depends on the person.
I mean, like the ones that I've done, I've pretty much just made the call like myself,
but I'll, but I'll look at, you know, their social media or something, or like, you know,
some are like business owners or something like that.
And I just, I just want to get like, just as like an idea of, you know, the kind of
things that you could learn about somebody at a bar, you know, I don't, I don't make
it really go any further than that, but maybe because I'm a guy, so I just like have this
like false sense of security that I'm just like, I can walk into anything and I'll be
fine.
You know?
So it's like, if it's like, if there's something that I can see that puts them in like the
real world, you know, and accountable, I guess that's enough for me.
Yeah.
And most of the time it's like, they're taking me to like, I mean, events and stuff or like
things that, you know, they just need like arm candy or, or just a plus one.
So there's a lot of like, there's a lot of like exposure beforehand.
So you know, if I ever needed to pull any of those people into quarters, you know, it's
like, I just feel safe and stuff.
And plus, yeah.
And I do just like, I honestly, like I'll sit there and I'll just be like, well, is
this like somebody that I would, you know, like try to be with, you know, and it's, it's
like, yeah, you know, they're not bad.
You know, it's just like, well, I'm just going to go for it then, you know?
And then I just try to be like, you know, best guy ever.
Which is, which is like, you know, anytime you like, are going to go on a date or you're
going to, you have to meet somebody's friends or whatever.
You always put on that, like, you know, like this is the best me.
So I just like do that, you know, and then it's just, but then it's funny because I guess
the best me is really good, but it's like, if they just knew like the rest of me, they'd
be like, man, that, that would just, the fantasy would implode real fast.
What are the, like the majority of women, like what is the age?
Like I, I guess I don't know if it's because like I, I seem like most of it's been around
my age, like right now I'm 41, but it's always been, it's been about like five years older
than I am at all times.
Like if I was like 35, 40 year olds were like hitting me up and now that I'm 40, I've noticed
more like 45 year olds are hitting me.
I don't know.
I don't know if they, I don't know, but I, I, I, a lot of the times I look a lot younger.
I'm just like, I don't know if I'm half Puerto Rican or something.
I have some kind of like thing about me that just makes me young.
Yeah.
So I think that they, it seems that they're looking for somebody at least 10 years younger
than them and they think that I am.
So but usually it's about five and that's cool because I remember, you know, I remember
growing up, you know, you like an adolescent boy and all the girls that all the women that
are like five years older than you are all the ones you want to sleep with anyways, you
know, you're just like, wow, like they're all the attractive ones, the ones that have
like already developed and you're just like, wow, you know, like when you're a freshman
and they're seniors, you're just like, yeah, I want that, you know?
So I get to have sex with them now.
So that's cool.
It's just way after the fact.
What do you do besides sex work?
I make music.
I DJ.
I, I'm just like a Jack of all trades kind of guy.
It's awesome.
So I'm just going to play some of David's music.
I think you guys will like it.
I love it.
It's a, it's like disco.
It's funk.
So I don't, I don't know how to describe it, but anyways, here you go.
It kind of reminds me of princess goes to the butterfly museum, like some elements,
but yeah, no, I like it.
I'm going to listen to it more after we're done.
Tell me more about yourself.
Tell me what you did before becoming a sex worker.
I was a bartender mostly and then, and I'm just kind of a drunk when I'm a bartender.
There's just like no escaping it because I mean, I, I, I got to the point where I was
bar manager and, and, and I, you know, and I didn't drink and stuff like that, but it's
like when things go bad and I'm surrounded by alcohol, I'm going to get drunk.
That's just like, it's, it's like, I'm just like, thank God I'm surrounded by booze, you
know?
So I just, it's like, you know, if I want to do something professional, I, I, the best
thing to do is to just like not be surrounded by, you know, things that I can destroy myself
with.
So, so then I had to move away from that and I, and when I was topless, you know, I didn't
have to like answer to anybody.
I didn't have any bills.
I didn't have, I didn't have anything and, and I started to like it.
And then one thing that like you do when you're on the street is like anything that you get
is you're pretty much just bartering for it.
You know, it's like, it's like, what do I, what do I have that I can like give that it'll
get me like the things that I don't have that I want.
And, and that's like, you start doing that and everything that you do is for you, it's
for yourself.
So it's like, you know, and that, that makes it almost impossible to want to ever work
for somebody again, because it's like going, I used to just go and bust my ass and, and
to put money in somebody else's pocket.
It made, it makes no sense.
And it's like, you know, letting people treat me like dirt so I can like make this person
rich and it's not getting me anywhere.
I was just like, you know, you go to a job and you're like, they give you a packet and
you're like, Oh, you know, servant leadership, like servant leadership, give me a break.
Yeah.
It's just like, I was just like, you know, I, I, there was this one job I had and I put
my like everything into it.
And then like eventually the owner was just like not into it anymore.
So he just closed it and I was just like, I was like, well, yeah, I guess, you know,
and it was like it that like, like I just was skating on thin ice my whole life and
didn't know it.
And then everything just dropped out from under me.
I was just like, so, but it's like, I like to like, I like to really, if I'm going to
like, when things get bad, I like them to get really bad.
You know?
So I was just like, why?
I was just like everything now, everything has to end.
And then I was going, you know, and I ended up like, I don't know, I'm not even going
to get into that story.
Let's stick with one.
I could trail off forever.
We'll just say like, I ended up in like a full on like mouse costume, just high on PCP,
like dancing in skid row.
Like, and it was just, I just remember thinking like, nobody knows where I am and they're
never ever going to know, you know, like I was just like, I'm just lost into obscurity.
You know?
And then, but no, I came to eventually.
It was, it was just like, it's nice.
What, I just know how often do you travel for work?
Do you stay?
I won't.
Yeah.
Like I, I won't, I used to travel for myself and if I travel anywhere for myself, then
I'll like, you know, posts or something.
And then, but I won't go anywhere for anybody.
I mean, it's like, because I'm very neurotic and I, and it's like, if I'm not thinking
about anything, I can, I just get everything done.
But the second somebody is just like, Hey, remember you have to do this.
It's the last thing I'll do.
And it's just, or if I'm sitting here trying to get out of the house, I'll never get out
of the house, you know?
And just like everything goes, I'm like, you know, I'm all of my clothes that I put so
nicely, they all end up on the floor because I have tried everything on and I'm just like,
no God, I hate this thing.
This is terrible looking.
And I was just like, I'm like, why do I buy these clothes?
They all look awful.
And it's just like, you know, so, but then I'm, but then also like, I'll have an outfit
that I think I look good in it.
I'm like, Oh, right.
So I'll just go and I'll buy that outfit, like a week's worth of it.
So it's just, when I have to change my clothes, I get the change into the same thing.
And this is why I know I have a problem is because I put on the next thing and I go,
no, no, this, this, it looks bad.
It looks terrible.
And I could put on the thing I had on before and I go this whole time, I looked stupid,
you know, it's just like, yeah, it's, it's probably, it's definitely a mental illness.
But I don't know.
I mean, you know, it's cool when people are like, Hey man, you look really good.
It's like, I don't, I don't ask for that.
So I know that when they're saying it, they mean it.
And it's like, cause I will, I will never think that I look good or that I like if there's,
I just like, I don't find myself attractive, you know, because I don't have the qualities
that I would find attractive in somebody.
So I just don't think I'm good looking.
And so I'm never going to think that I look cool, but I think the effort that I put into
it trying to get to something where I'm comfortable, other people seem to be like, wow, yeah, you
look really good.
I'm just like, Oh cool.
Cause I'm just like, I don't know, maybe if something about my view down, I'm just like,
my feet look too big.
And my, I was like, why are my legs tapered so much, you know, and it's,
No, some guys don't even make an effort.
So I'm just saying, you look good.
You look good.
Like there, I'm sure you look way better in person.
So yeah.
And I'm not just saying that.
What is the most fun experience you had with the client?
You can think of.
The most fun I had, cause this is, and this is because I have issues, but it's something
like the most fun I had with the client was like, because it was like the worst like experience
ever.
That's the most fun for me.
Cause it's like anything else is just, I don't know if there really doesn't feel like any
separation between just me like living my life and doing what I do.
And then like me at like escorting or something.
It's just like, it's just the differences that, you know, instead of me having to pay
for everything, I get paid for everything.
And sometimes I'm like, man, I really need to go out on a date because I got like a date
tomorrow and I need some like money.
So it's like, so I have to like do like a whole experience just so I can go have like
the whole experience and it's really just weird.
But no, there was just this one, there was this one woman and she, she was, you know,
she had just gotten out of a marriage.
And I mean, like she was married to the guy for like ever and never, they never had sex
and stuff like he was like just totally in the closet, but like just like her.
Yeah.
Like, and just trapped her in this like sexless marriage, you know?
So she like lost like all of her like, you know, best years, like, you know, but, and
then so she was afraid to like go back out and like, and you know, she was like, I'm
not going to be any good.
And, and, you know, and I was just like, I was like, all right, I gotta, I gotta see
this woman, you know?
And then, and it was like, and it was, it was great because it just, it just had that
everything went naturally, you know, and it's just, and, and, and, and I felt very like
confident and kind of, you know, just like masculine and it was great.
And she like loved it.
And I, and I really like, I really like gave like a good date, you know?
But then, but then after that, it was just like, you know, she was just like obsessed
with me and it was just like, and I was just like, and I was like, no, we've developed
your skills.
Now it's time for you to go out and like use them, you know?
And she's just like, she's like, no, I don't.
She's like, just all about me.
And I was just like, and that sucks.
And there was a while that I was like, I was like, I can't, I'm not doing this anymore
because I just, that like, that kind of stuff just like kills me inside.
But then I have to remember that it's just like, you know, I'm sure, I'm sure that once
I like walk out the door, like they're kind of like, no, like, whatever, screw him, you
know?
Cause you know, but it's like the drama that people just will brew.
It's, I don't know.
It's, it's, it's definitely entertaining to say the least and just, I don't know, but
I can hold my own in a thing.
There's just times, there's been some crazy times and, and then when, like when anything
is, when anything goes terribly wrong, that's like when I shine, you know?
And that's why my life is so ridiculous.
Cause when things are going good, I'm miserable.
I'm just like, I'm like bored and you know, I know, you know, but it's like, but when
things are going really bad, all of a sudden I'm just like, I'm on it.
You know, I'm just like clockwork, you know?
If I could just, if I could just switch, like change that somehow, I could, I think I could
be very successful, but it's like an, until, until it's like this dire need or like, you
know, dude, you're going to die.
And then it's like, all right, well, if that's the case, then psh.
And I just like, you know, they're like, wow, you could have done that this whole time.
I'm like, yeah, it's ridiculous me.
Fun.
Do you see yourself like vagabond from escorting and just starting a family and whatnot?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I, I guess I've, I've always, even in my real life or my, in my, you know,
at home life, that's always been the goal that, and to just never have children as by
mistake or something.
I've always just been, I've always been very responsible about everything and it sucks
because you know, all of your friends have kids and you know, and they all have exes,
ex wives, you know, and it's just like, and, and it's just like, uh, and you know, they,
cause they're all like, you know, I broke up with her and then a week later, like she's
pregnant and it's just like, I'm like, nah, she's probably choking, you know, she's, you
know, but it's just like, no, I mean, I don't know where I grew up.
It was definitely like, I guess women were just all like, you know, oh, you're going
to leave me.
Well, I don't think so.
You know, and they just, whatever they were doing to make it like not get pregnant, they
just stopped doing that.
But see that never happened to me because I was, I was in charge of like me not getting
somebody pregnant, you know?
So I guess my friends just like weren't doing anything to like kind of prevent that.
So the minute that the women weren't doing it, then there were, there were, you know,
they got them.
Give me, I was just like, nah, sorry.
You know, it's just like, I was like, I'm taking care of, you know, but then it was
kind of sucked because it's like, I, you know, I don't, I don't have this like little mistake
that I got to raise.
So it's, but it's, but, you know, I don't know people my age.
I mean, we're like, we're like perpetually in our twenties anyway.
So I don't feel like I, I'm just about, I mean, cause like my friends were still living
in their mother's basement and I'm just all like, and it's like, and it doesn't seem weird,
you know?
But then I like, my mother passed away when I was like 20 or something and she was only
like 40 something.
And then, so when I turned 40, I was just like, I was like, God, my mother wasn't old
at all.
I was like, I thought she was like an old, you know, I was just like, when she, when
she died, I was just like, well, it makes sense.
You know?
Cause I mean, it's just like, she's old, you know, old people die.
That's what happened.
And then I'm like turning 40.
I'm just like, I'm like, you gotta be kidding me.
I was like, I haven't even, I haven't even started my life.
You know, my mom's life was over when she had kids, like, you know, did you just, you
become an old person because, you know, cause your kids are like what you care about and
stuff and, and I've just never had that.
Since I haven't had that, I've been able to be just like irresponsible and just, you know,
I've screwed my whole life up, but I'm only screwing my life up.
So that's all it's like, that's fine.
You know, as long as I'm not negatively affecting anybody else, you know, and then I get to
just do something else, you know, more like just change roles.
Do you think that sex work will be legalized in the United States sometime soon?
I mean, like it's, I mean, it's like legal somewhere in Nevada.
Yeah.
And they have like the bunny ranch or something, but I mean, America is, I mean, like, I don't
think it should be because it's like this whole country is based on, I mean, there's,
there were like people in Europe that were so terrible that they all put themselves on
a ship without maybe not even the chance of survival.
And they needed to get, they were told to get the hell out of that country.
And they were just like shipped off to like America that might exist.
That's who's founded this country.
It was the, like the major like rejects that were just all so religious or something that,
that they like people couldn't stand them.
All right.
And it's like, the pilgrims are like, that's us.
Yeah.
You know, it's just like, no, I don't think that they, I know, I don't, you know, I'm
surprised that people are allowed to drink or do anything.
It's like anything fun.
It's like, you know, they have to just own it and tax it.
And it's just like that.
So it's like being able to work for yourself and do so even if it's illegal or whatnot,
it's like, even, you know, if I have friends that are dealers and stuff, you know, you're
just all just like, nah, shame, shame, you know, but it's just like, but I mean, some
of them are savvy business people, but because they, because they were like, you know, just
made out to be criminals at a young age and just kind of forced into that.
I mean, of course they would have been, they would have been great, like, you know, CEOs
of companies, but since they've got to, you know, they were just like put in the jail
for no reason and now they can't get a good job.
It's just like, and now they've, you know, but they're still businessmen.
It's like, they always would have been, you know?
So it's just like, it's kind of this thing that any, it happened with marijuana.
It's just when they, when the things get legal, then they can, that's when they get to control
it and then, and just, and I mean, I mean, yeah, like, I mean, like I, I get to provide
a service and I get, I own every aspect of, of providing me, you know, and just like,
I just can't imagine.
I mean, it's like, if, if they legalize it, it'd be like, you go to a cubicle or something
or, or somebody's just doing their thing and they're just like, oh, right.
You know, the dates walking in and be like, here's your little room.
And you just like, you know, you get your time.
Yeah.
And they, or they'd be like, you know, like, I'd be like, well, I got to go to the welfare
one, you know, I got to go to, got to see the welfare escort.
It's just like, I mean, it would just be terrible.
You know, I mean, it'd be like the new DMV, you know, and you'd just be like, you'd have
to go get your like license for it.
And it would just be, you know, and they'd just be like, you know, just denying you.
And it'd be like, anytime you get a new license, they'd be like, oh, just a big chunk of money.
And it'd be like, you know, and you just, they'd own, they would own your, your sex.
Yeah.
I mean, I just, I don't think that's necessary.
I don't think that, yeah, I don't think it has to be legalized.
I just think that it shouldn't be punished.
Right.
And it's just, but yeah, but it's just like, but legalized means controlled.
And that's just like, you know, I mean, it's like in America.
Yeah.
Like, you know, there's all these illegal drugs and they're, they're controlled substances.
They are, they're controlled by our government and like just divvied out to, you know, make
sure that these people stayed that way.
And it's just, and this person gets money.
I don't understand that, but it's just like, so when, even when they were like, oh, we're
going to legalize marijuana.
I was like, I'm not going to be able to afford it then, you know, pretty much perspective.
Yeah.
I like it.
So we are not out of time, but I seriously appreciate your perspective and talking about
you, yourself and your story and how you got into it.
And yeah, so thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah.
I mean, if you ever meet another, another escort, male escort that deals with like women,
like I'd like to meet them because I don't know one.
So it's just like, you know, me and Richard gear, that's about it.
Cool.
Thank you so much for having me.
Thank you.
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