Hi everybody, thank you so much for tuning in to today's podcast called Escort Confessions.
I'm your host Alexa Max and I am here with Mr. Lane.
Good morning.
Hello Alexa Max.
Hello.
All right, I'm excited about today's podcast.
I'm ready to jump into it.
Me too.
So yeah, we're going to talk about why is pornography illegal and prostitution is not.
Why not?
Everybody is doing it.
Everybody watches porn.
Right.
And that's the biggest difference right there is that people are watching.
So it's under the First Amendment.
That's the biggest argument that free speech, America, the First Amendment, the United
States Constitution prevents the government from making laws which regulate establishment
of religion or prohibit the free exercise of religion or freedom of speech and expression
or assembly.
And if it's considered art, then it's protected free speech.
So essentially people who make pornography are not paid to have sex.
They're paid to make art.
And if a pornographer can prove that his art is going to be sold and distributed and consumed
by an audience, then that typifies the fact that it's considered art.
But on the other side of that, though, is that pornography is not 100% legal.
You have to have certain regulations that you have to follow in the communities that
it's filmed in.
In fact, I think it's always been said, and this may be wrong, only somebody that listens
to us to let us know if this is true or not.
My understanding is that it's only legal in two states, California and Florida, technically,
where you have a license to make that kind of content.
And you have to have certain licenses for business licenses.
You have to have licenses that will allow you to distribute and work in that medium.
Whereas prostitution is considered to be a gateway to sex trafficking, using air quotes
on podcasts, people aren't going to be able to see me do my air quotes.
But that's the difference, essentially.
And it really is not that different.
I mean, what's your opinion on this?
What's your point of view?
I mean, everybody watches porn.
There's nothing wrong with that, unless you're like super Christian who thinks it's a sin
to touch yourself.
But I mean, people are having sex in both of, you know, whether you're a client or whether
you're, you know, you watch porn.
And like the difference between porn and escorting is like, you don't, I mean, that person, the
actor who gets paid for porn, they don't know that you're watching them.
It's like, not as intimate.
I don't know if that makes sense.
But like, while you're seeing a provider in person, it's more intimate.
It's in person rather than seeing them on the screen.
Yeah, it's like they don't know who is watching them and that they assume somebody is.
And it could be a family member.
It could be somebody that they work with.
It could be an old friend from high school.
And there's that disconnect, you know, like I hear a lot of porn, not a lot of porn performers,
but I've heard porn performers in the past say, yes, it's really cool until, you know,
my dad saw it and he, you know, he knows I'm doing this.
And I know some performers have their parents involved in their careers as managers, whereas
people who help them, you know, figure out content or make decisions with business deals.
But you know, that's sort of the thing that it's like they call the big paradox is that
people say, oh, you know, pornography is immoral, sex work is immoral.
But the same people who are saying that, once you get in trouble for, you know, being caught
watching it.
And that's, I think the biggest difference.
Yeah, but I don't know.
And obviously our podcast is anti-FOSTA and anti the attempts to regulate the internet
because it does not directly contribute to modern day slave trade.
And we don't find it inherently demeaning.
I mean, some of it is, but the content that's consensual, you know, safe saying consensual,
make sure people who are of age are doing it and that their actual adults are doing
it.
Yeah.
There was a feed on Twitter yesterday that I saw what's the youngest age that you would
see a client?
And I answered 18.
I mean, as long as they're legal, but yeah, with the pornography, sometimes they, the
girls are underage or the boys are underage and there is child pornography and that's
sad.
Right. And that's sort of the one thing about, I don't know if you've noticed this or not,
but the biggest site Pornhub has been cleaning up a lot of their content and sort of streamlining
it to make it more accessible to the big studios, you know, like New Biles and like Team Skeet
and browsers and just the big guns.
And you don't see as much of the homemade content and there is a place for that there,
but it's super regulated.
You have to be part of the Model Hub program and you know, you have to obviously show that
you are the person in the video and you have to document through the United States code
that says you have to show that you, so if somebody wanted to go into a video and say,
I know this person, she's underage.
Yeah.
They have to be able to go back to that video content creator and say, okay, this is proof.
This is her ID that says she is of age to have this kind of content on here.
And it goes back to Tracy Lord back in the 80s who had a fake ID and was making a bunch
of videos between the ages of 16 and 18.
In fact, like all of her videos except one were done while she was still a minor, even
though she doesn't look like a minor, even though she was doing things that you wouldn't
think at 16 or 17 year old would do.
She still was and she was making a lot of money and she was making a lot of money as
relative in the pornography because you know, that money is coming, comes and goes really
quickly.
But when she turned 18, she let everyone know that she was not of age and there was a lot
of people who got in trouble.
She had one video that she produced after she was 18 and that one became a big seller
because it was only legal video because the rest of them were pulled off the shelves of
video stores and stuff.
And you know, she, so since then they have the law where you have to provide the proof
that a performer is over the age of 18.
And also, so I was about to point out they've been cleaning up their content.
So it's still a user generated content, but it's where you have to go in and you have
to document who you are and to go through the third party verification.
And then if you have a video that you post, you have to get, you have to swear that, you
know, under penalty of oath that everyone in your video is also of age and you can document
who they are too, which is the same for only fans or the other sites where if you post,
you have to say, I'm posting a video with myself and this other performer and the other
performers of age and here's the documentation to prove it.
And that's how they traffic or that's how they battle underage child pornography.
But that's just on our sites.
That's just on the regular web.
If you do deep searches into the dark web, that's where you have like the eight millimeter
stuff like, you know, from the movie, that's the dark stuff.
That's like where the real illegal things are and everything that happens on our internet
that we have access to on the daily through Google or Yahoo or whoever being, you know,
that's the laws they make for those kinds of websites don't directly affect the dark
web.
And that's the real shame because it's just an excuse for corporations to say, Hey, we
want to charge more for access to bandwidth and access to cell towers and access to the
internet and gatekeep it for people.
Yeah.
There's a whole other episode of the show.
It's not what we're talking about directly today, but it's all interconnected.
What about strippers?
Because it is a form of art too.
Yeah, it is.
It's also protected under the first amendment.
But like, you know, the community guidelines thing, there are certain laws in different
places that say where you can and can't put a strip club.
Like you can't put them in their churches sometimes or in our schools sometimes, which
is weird because they don't really have anything to do with each other.
They don't have like a direct correlation between each other.
That's why I see a lot of most of the gentleman's clubs are like in areas of town that are industrial
areas or like big areas where there's a lot of other commerce and business and not residential
areas.
I love that though, that they're, I love the fact that you can have neighborhood brothels
though.
Like I know there are places where like gated communities that have like really nice big
homes and big mansions and then you go in there and you'll find like four or five women
living together.
You're in space together and they're providers.
And you know, they advertise through their different sites like trust or whatever, or
you know, back in the day back pages and you would go to these different houses and you
would check in on your way in and say, yeah, I'm John.
I'm here for my three o'clock and they buzz you into the gate for the gated community
and you pull up their driveway and you have like a parking area and you go see him.
There'd be like three or four women just kind of hanging out in the house and they go on
here for Melissa and like, oh, Hey Melissa, you go into Melissa's room.
And that's, that's essentially awful, but it's situated in a really nice neighborhood
next to houses with actual families and such living there.
And as part of the shadow economy and the underground economy, it's not regulated by
external form.
It is obviously if vice were to come in and arrest people, but it's not the same.
Or for example, if you live in South Carolina and you're driving along like a 26 near Bowman,
you know, there are certain places, different strip clubs or places where you can launch
your aim model and get people, you know, there's the basically their brothels on the side of
the road and they're regulated only by the fact that I heard Mau in the bag and then
screen turned and I'm like, yeah, yeah, that was a, that was Oreo wanting to get involved
in a podcast again.
I even, I moved locations to a different spot and she's just crawled across.
Yeah.
You have different background.
Yeah.
I'm sitting at the desk.
And it's an old, it's an old secretary that kind of unfolds.
And I've got my little workstations that appear for doing online stuff.
And I finally got my area for self tapes somewhere else too.
And I'm trying to permanent.
Anyway, there's a place off the interstate where there's basically a brothel and it's,
you know, dancers and strippers and things.
And I think the understanding is that they have some law enforcement in their pocket,
which is illegal, but more power to them.
I guess, I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't have an opinion on that.
I have other opinions on judicial system behavior and corruption versus, you know, people who
are straightforward.
But anyway, those places are technically protected by free speech too, because they're entertainers
and they're public entertainers.
And it's like a club that you joined.
So that's cool about the Gator community.
I mean, I live in the Gator community, but like the rich, the rich kind of neighborhood,
because nobody's going to suspect a thing.
They would say, oh yeah, they're like golden goals.
Like they live together and they just do their jobs.
Cool.
Good for them.
Right.
And so it's like, if you know, you know, and that's the difference.
I mean, do you have people that you know in this business that you would work with like
that?
Like other women that you could say, Hey, let's get a house together.
Fuck no.
No.
So I like, I like my privacy.
I lived with so many people there.
No, I just feel, I don't know.
I feel like I would feel so much pressure.
And at the same time I would compare myself to them.
And yeah.
Well, you wouldn't have to even live with them, honestly.
I think the other avenue is that like you all contribute money to the common space and
you would have your room that you would work in and they have their rooms that they work
in and that you guys share utilities and whatnot.
And that you charge a little bit more, but you don't have anybody come into your home.
You have people coming to a third location.
That's not going to be that you can regulate the traffic flow.
It's like a hotel where you only lose on the other side of the door, you know, it's somewhere
different.
I mean, something to think about.
I don't want to think about it.
My answer is no.
No, I'm just joking.
Yeah.
I feel like it's roommates are not my thing.
Even if we're doing it for the good cause to get people laid and satisfied.
People listening to this podcast are really enjoying it because I know I'm enjoying it.
It's good stuff.
Oh boy.
Yeah.
Because like when I had roommates, like freaking Michael used a lot of water and I did it.
And then the bill was like a hundred bucks a month and I'm like, fuck, what is going
on?
Right.
Well, you just charge your, you just charge your client more fee.
Yeah.
And itemized bill of all the expenses and like, you know, break it down for like 35 cents
for a minute for water.
Yeah.
That's a minute for air conditioning.
They eat any of your food, then it's like a, you know, $2 for flat food fee and stuff.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I mean, I, I don't think about comparing yourself to others.
People too is like, I don't know.
It's like the brothels out in Nevada are different too, because essentially they all pull their,
I mean, they, they obviously work in one location that's managed by the management company and
they have their rooms and they have like common spaces, like, you know, like a big bath area
or like a big shower area and stuff, but like a big, you know, like a big tub area.
And they sort of like rotate out, you know, who gets to use it, who has it, who's entertaining
and they have their own space and they contribute some of their income to that space management.
But they're part of the advertising for this, for the, for the brothel, you know, they're
there and they have a, they're on their websites or on their marketing materials and they have,
you know, I'm going to be here at the chicken ranch, you know, during this time period.
You can come see me then.
Yeah.
And, you know, while you're there, you know, they, they'll be part of the lineup or you
can market your own stuff to Air Johns and you can book appointments.
So the guys that they, I'm going to be in Vegas, you know, like March 5th.
That's when you're working at the chicken ranch and you can come out to that and you
can, you know, see them on March 5th and see you set an appointment.
And then depending on where you are, like in Vegas, they'll bring a car out to you and
then drive you back there.
And it's like a 40 minute drive, but you know, it's, it's worth it because otherwise if you're
visiting and you have no transportation, you're just like taking Ubers or taxis or whatever,
then they'll drive you back and forth to where you are, to where you want to go.
And then like stay there, you know, your duration, during duration of your stay.
And then you can, you know, if you're a provider, you have that space and that you pay a portion
of, you know, each of your sessions back to the house and you keep the rest.
And it's kind of the same thing.
We talk about like doing cam shows on like, you know, stream mates or something where the
house capes a lot more money than they do with the brothel.
Then you keep the rest.
Yeah.
I'm trying to make sure my cat doesn't jump up here again.
Cause she's okay.
She went away.
Mine are sleeping on the table right now.
Like, yeah.
Well, Draco sleeps more than Dexter because Dexter is just crazy.
He's like back and forth, back and forth.
He's like a little kid.
And then he watches me in the bathroom.
Like I go take a shower.
The next, the minute I come out, he's there just staring at me with his, with his cute
eyes.
Yeah.
Oh, creep.
He's trying to figure out why you're not bathing yourself by licking your hands.
Why would you willingly submit, submerge yourself under pouring water?
That sounds awful.
He wants to make sure you're okay.
Cause obviously that would be traumatic to him.
And he wants to make sure you're okay.
He just did that.
Oh, you're like, are you okay, human?
Yeah.
He does.
He makes sure he wakes me up every morning to make sure I'm okay.
And he bites me on the nose.
I'm like, I'm fine Dexter.
I want to sleep a little more, five more minutes.
And then they pet you.
Yeah.
Do you have any additional information because...
Right.
So we recap.
First amendment is the reason why one is legal to a point and one is not legal to a point.
So if you are going to, and I know a provider around here who is also an adult actor and
they will do the porn star experience where you can tape it.
And so technically if you happen to have a release on hand, he can say, Hey, by the way,
I'm going to film you.
And if I actually, a famous person Adriana Cechek does that.
She will do fan sessions where she will have them sign releases ahead of time and they
don't compensate her for it, but she just says, she hooks up with them and says, Hey,
you know, I like you.
I found you on Tinder.
Do you want to go on a date or hang out with me?
And great.
If you are, go to this site and get tested.
Yeah.
Or go to this brick and mortar place and take a test.
And if they have these results, then we'll hook up because she is an adult performer.
She needs to stay tested so that she can keep working.
And when they come back with a clean test and she'll have a sign of release and then
they'll bang it out and sometimes put it on camera for her website.
Sometimes not.
And then, you know, better not.
But that's just how she rolls.
And as I say, the provider that here in Carolinas, she will let you film her and you can create
content that way if she's, you know, if she agrees and you can obviously compensate her
for her time and her, you know, you paying for her.
And her time, not really any kind of other experience.
That's like a bonus.
But legally you're paying, compensating her for her time as an expert.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
I've been asked to like, if they could film me, I'm like, no, but unless it's still a
good client and I will crop their, well, I did, I did film porn with one of my favorite,
favorite regulars, but yeah.
Yeah.
Like I would personally, for me, I would have to know a person more than three times who
comes to me, who comes in general, three times.
But yeah, no, to film it.
But yeah, that's cool.
I like filming things.
Yeah.
And you're photogenic too.
Yeah.
You don't look like, you know, you don't look crazy on camera.
What do you mean crazy on camera?
Like, oh yeah, harder.
I mean like, that's another great, uh, audio soundtrack for the podcast.
You'd be like, what the hell are they doing?
Why am I listening to this?
This is so professional.
We should do an ASMR session where we just talk and we just make really good sounds.
We'll enjoy our voice.
Oh, laugh.
Alexa, stop laughing.
I'm sorry.
It's not funny.
Alexa.
I'm trying to hold my laugh.
My face is all red.
Cool.
People who are home listening, she has a red face and they imagine you like paint your
face bright red and you look like you're a blue skin.
You're racist because red face would be a Native American.
Yeah.
That's politically correct to say that.
I mean, Native American is politically correct, but it's not politically correct to call yourself
a red skin.
Got it.
Don't laugh.
All right, Alexa.
I'm not.
I'm learning while smiling.
Right.
And breathing at the same time.
Don't forget to not breathe.
All right.
This is a good episode.
I think this is going to be so much fun.
People discover this podcast and then make it viral and think what in the hell is Yath
doing?
They don't know what they're talking about.
They're crazy.
We do.
We're very sexy people and we're very smart people.
We know lots of things.
That's why you should listen to our podcast.