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Hi everybody, thank you so much for tuning in to today's podcast called Escort Confessions.

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I'm your host Alexa Max and I am here with Mr. Lane.

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Good morning.

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Hello Alexa Max.

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Hello.

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All right, I'm excited about today's podcast.

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I'm ready to jump into it.

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Me too.

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So yeah, we're going to talk about why is pornography illegal and prostitution is not.

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Why not?

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Everybody is doing it.

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Everybody watches porn.

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Right.

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And that's the biggest difference right there is that people are watching.

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So it's under the First Amendment.

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That's the biggest argument that free speech, America, the First Amendment, the United

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States Constitution prevents the government from making laws which regulate establishment

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of religion or prohibit the free exercise of religion or freedom of speech and expression

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or assembly.

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And if it's considered art, then it's protected free speech.

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So essentially people who make pornography are not paid to have sex.

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They're paid to make art.

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And if a pornographer can prove that his art is going to be sold and distributed and consumed

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by an audience, then that typifies the fact that it's considered art.

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But on the other side of that, though, is that pornography is not 100% legal.

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You have to have certain regulations that you have to follow in the communities that

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it's filmed in.

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In fact, I think it's always been said, and this may be wrong, only somebody that listens

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to us to let us know if this is true or not.

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My understanding is that it's only legal in two states, California and Florida, technically,

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where you have a license to make that kind of content.

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And you have to have certain licenses for business licenses.

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You have to have licenses that will allow you to distribute and work in that medium.

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Whereas prostitution is considered to be a gateway to sex trafficking, using air quotes

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on podcasts, people aren't going to be able to see me do my air quotes.

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But that's the difference, essentially.

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And it really is not that different.

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I mean, what's your opinion on this?

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What's your point of view?

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I mean, everybody watches porn.

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There's nothing wrong with that, unless you're like super Christian who thinks it's a sin

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to touch yourself.

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But I mean, people are having sex in both of, you know, whether you're a client or whether

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you're, you know, you watch porn.

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And like the difference between porn and escorting is like, you don't, I mean, that person, the

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actor who gets paid for porn, they don't know that you're watching them.

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It's like, not as intimate.

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I don't know if that makes sense.

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But like, while you're seeing a provider in person, it's more intimate.

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It's in person rather than seeing them on the screen.

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Yeah, it's like they don't know who is watching them and that they assume somebody is.

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And it could be a family member.

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It could be somebody that they work with.

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It could be an old friend from high school.

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And there's that disconnect, you know, like I hear a lot of porn, not a lot of porn performers,

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but I've heard porn performers in the past say, yes, it's really cool until, you know,

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my dad saw it and he, you know, he knows I'm doing this.

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And I know some performers have their parents involved in their careers as managers, whereas

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people who help them, you know, figure out content or make decisions with business deals.

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But you know, that's sort of the thing that it's like they call the big paradox is that

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people say, oh, you know, pornography is immoral, sex work is immoral.

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But the same people who are saying that, once you get in trouble for, you know, being caught

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watching it.

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And that's, I think the biggest difference.

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Yeah, but I don't know.

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And obviously our podcast is anti-FOSTA and anti the attempts to regulate the internet

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because it does not directly contribute to modern day slave trade.

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And we don't find it inherently demeaning.

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I mean, some of it is, but the content that's consensual, you know, safe saying consensual,

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make sure people who are of age are doing it and that their actual adults are doing

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it.

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There was a feed on Twitter yesterday that I saw what's the youngest age that you would

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see a client?

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And I answered 18.

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I mean, as long as they're legal, but yeah, with the pornography, sometimes they, the

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girls are underage or the boys are underage and there is child pornography and that's

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sad.

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Right. And that's sort of the one thing about, I don't know if you've noticed this or not,

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but the biggest site Pornhub has been cleaning up a lot of their content and sort of streamlining

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it to make it more accessible to the big studios, you know, like New Biles and like Team Skeet

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and browsers and just the big guns.

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And you don't see as much of the homemade content and there is a place for that there,

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but it's super regulated.

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You have to be part of the Model Hub program and you know, you have to obviously show that

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you are the person in the video and you have to document through the United States code

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that says you have to show that you, so if somebody wanted to go into a video and say,

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I know this person, she's underage.

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They have to be able to go back to that video content creator and say, okay, this is proof.

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This is her ID that says she is of age to have this kind of content on here.

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And it goes back to Tracy Lord back in the 80s who had a fake ID and was making a bunch

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of videos between the ages of 16 and 18.

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In fact, like all of her videos except one were done while she was still a minor, even

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though she doesn't look like a minor, even though she was doing things that you wouldn't

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think at 16 or 17 year old would do.

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She still was and she was making a lot of money and she was making a lot of money as

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relative in the pornography because you know, that money is coming, comes and goes really

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quickly.

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But when she turned 18, she let everyone know that she was not of age and there was a lot

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of people who got in trouble.

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She had one video that she produced after she was 18 and that one became a big seller

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because it was only legal video because the rest of them were pulled off the shelves of

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video stores and stuff.

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And you know, she, so since then they have the law where you have to provide the proof

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that a performer is over the age of 18.

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And also, so I was about to point out they've been cleaning up their content.

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So it's still a user generated content, but it's where you have to go in and you have

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to document who you are and to go through the third party verification.

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And then if you have a video that you post, you have to get, you have to swear that, you

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know, under penalty of oath that everyone in your video is also of age and you can document

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who they are too, which is the same for only fans or the other sites where if you post,

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you have to say, I'm posting a video with myself and this other performer and the other

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performers of age and here's the documentation to prove it.

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And that's how they traffic or that's how they battle underage child pornography.

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But that's just on our sites.

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That's just on the regular web.

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If you do deep searches into the dark web, that's where you have like the eight millimeter

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stuff like, you know, from the movie, that's the dark stuff.

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That's like where the real illegal things are and everything that happens on our internet

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that we have access to on the daily through Google or Yahoo or whoever being, you know,

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that's the laws they make for those kinds of websites don't directly affect the dark

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web.

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And that's the real shame because it's just an excuse for corporations to say, Hey, we

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want to charge more for access to bandwidth and access to cell towers and access to the

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internet and gatekeep it for people.

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There's a whole other episode of the show.

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It's not what we're talking about directly today, but it's all interconnected.

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What about strippers?

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Because it is a form of art too.

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Yeah, it is.

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It's also protected under the first amendment.

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But like, you know, the community guidelines thing, there are certain laws in different

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places that say where you can and can't put a strip club.

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Like you can't put them in their churches sometimes or in our schools sometimes, which

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is weird because they don't really have anything to do with each other.

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They don't have like a direct correlation between each other.

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That's why I see a lot of most of the gentleman's clubs are like in areas of town that are industrial

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areas or like big areas where there's a lot of other commerce and business and not residential

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areas.

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I love that though, that they're, I love the fact that you can have neighborhood brothels

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though.

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Like I know there are places where like gated communities that have like really nice big

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homes and big mansions and then you go in there and you'll find like four or five women

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living together.

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You're in space together and they're providers.

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And you know, they advertise through their different sites like trust or whatever, or

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you know, back in the day back pages and you would go to these different houses and you

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would check in on your way in and say, yeah, I'm John.

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I'm here for my three o'clock and they buzz you into the gate for the gated community

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and you pull up their driveway and you have like a parking area and you go see him.

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There'd be like three or four women just kind of hanging out in the house and they go on

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here for Melissa and like, oh, Hey Melissa, you go into Melissa's room.

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And that's, that's essentially awful, but it's situated in a really nice neighborhood

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next to houses with actual families and such living there.

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And as part of the shadow economy and the underground economy, it's not regulated by

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external form.

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It is obviously if vice were to come in and arrest people, but it's not the same.

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Or for example, if you live in South Carolina and you're driving along like a 26 near Bowman,

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you know, there are certain places, different strip clubs or places where you can launch

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your aim model and get people, you know, there's the basically their brothels on the side of

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the road and they're regulated only by the fact that I heard Mau in the bag and then

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screen turned and I'm like, yeah, yeah, that was a, that was Oreo wanting to get involved

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in a podcast again.

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I even, I moved locations to a different spot and she's just crawled across.

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You have different background.

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Yeah.

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I'm sitting at the desk.

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And it's an old, it's an old secretary that kind of unfolds.

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And I've got my little workstations that appear for doing online stuff.

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And I finally got my area for self tapes somewhere else too.

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And I'm trying to permanent.

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Anyway, there's a place off the interstate where there's basically a brothel and it's,

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you know, dancers and strippers and things.

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And I think the understanding is that they have some law enforcement in their pocket,

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which is illegal, but more power to them.

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I guess, I don't know.

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I don't have an opinion on that.

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I have other opinions on judicial system behavior and corruption versus, you know, people who

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are straightforward.

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But anyway, those places are technically protected by free speech too, because they're entertainers

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and they're public entertainers.

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And it's like a club that you joined.

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So that's cool about the Gator community.

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I mean, I live in the Gator community, but like the rich, the rich kind of neighborhood,

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because nobody's going to suspect a thing.

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They would say, oh yeah, they're like golden goals.

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Like they live together and they just do their jobs.

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Good for them.

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And so it's like, if you know, you know, and that's the difference.

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I mean, do you have people that you know in this business that you would work with like

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that?

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Like other women that you could say, Hey, let's get a house together.

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Fuck no.

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So I like, I like my privacy.

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I lived with so many people there.

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No, I just feel, I don't know.

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I feel like I would feel so much pressure.

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And at the same time I would compare myself to them.

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And yeah.

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Well, you wouldn't have to even live with them, honestly.

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I think the other avenue is that like you all contribute money to the common space and

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you would have your room that you would work in and they have their rooms that they work

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in and that you guys share utilities and whatnot.

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And that you charge a little bit more, but you don't have anybody come into your home.

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You have people coming to a third location.

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That's not going to be that you can regulate the traffic flow.

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It's like a hotel where you only lose on the other side of the door, you know, it's somewhere

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different.

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I mean, something to think about.

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I don't want to think about it.

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My answer is no.

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No, I'm just joking.

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I feel like it's roommates are not my thing.

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Even if we're doing it for the good cause to get people laid and satisfied.

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People listening to this podcast are really enjoying it because I know I'm enjoying it.

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It's good stuff.

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Oh boy.

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Because like when I had roommates, like freaking Michael used a lot of water and I did it.

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And then the bill was like a hundred bucks a month and I'm like, fuck, what is going

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on?

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Well, you just charge your, you just charge your client more fee.

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And itemized bill of all the expenses and like, you know, break it down for like 35 cents

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for a minute for water.

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That's a minute for air conditioning.

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They eat any of your food, then it's like a, you know, $2 for flat food fee and stuff.

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I don't know.

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I mean, I, I don't think about comparing yourself to others.

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People too is like, I don't know.

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It's like the brothels out in Nevada are different too, because essentially they all pull their,

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I mean, they, they obviously work in one location that's managed by the management company and

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they have their rooms and they have like common spaces, like, you know, like a big bath area

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or like a big shower area and stuff, but like a big, you know, like a big tub area.

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And they sort of like rotate out, you know, who gets to use it, who has it, who's entertaining

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and they have their own space and they contribute some of their income to that space management.

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But they're part of the advertising for this, for the, for the brothel, you know, they're

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there and they have a, they're on their websites or on their marketing materials and they have,

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you know, I'm going to be here at the chicken ranch, you know, during this time period.

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You can come see me then.

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Yeah.

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And, you know, while you're there, you know, they, they'll be part of the lineup or you

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can market your own stuff to Air Johns and you can book appointments.

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So the guys that they, I'm going to be in Vegas, you know, like March 5th.

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That's when you're working at the chicken ranch and you can come out to that and you

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can, you know, see them on March 5th and see you set an appointment.

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And then depending on where you are, like in Vegas, they'll bring a car out to you and

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then drive you back there.

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And it's like a 40 minute drive, but you know, it's, it's worth it because otherwise if you're

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visiting and you have no transportation, you're just like taking Ubers or taxis or whatever,

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then they'll drive you back and forth to where you are, to where you want to go.

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And then like stay there, you know, your duration, during duration of your stay.

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And then you can, you know, if you're a provider, you have that space and that you pay a portion

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of, you know, each of your sessions back to the house and you keep the rest.

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And it's kind of the same thing.

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We talk about like doing cam shows on like, you know, stream mates or something where the

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house capes a lot more money than they do with the brothel.

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Then you keep the rest.

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Yeah.

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I'm trying to make sure my cat doesn't jump up here again.

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Cause she's okay.

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She went away.

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Mine are sleeping on the table right now.

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Like, yeah.

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Well, Draco sleeps more than Dexter because Dexter is just crazy.

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He's like back and forth, back and forth.

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He's like a little kid.

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And then he watches me in the bathroom.

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Like I go take a shower.

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The next, the minute I come out, he's there just staring at me with his, with his cute

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eyes.

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Yeah.

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Oh, creep.

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He's trying to figure out why you're not bathing yourself by licking your hands.

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Why would you willingly submit, submerge yourself under pouring water?

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That sounds awful.

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He wants to make sure you're okay.

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Cause obviously that would be traumatic to him.

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And he wants to make sure you're okay.

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He just did that.

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Oh, you're like, are you okay, human?

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Yeah.

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He does.

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He makes sure he wakes me up every morning to make sure I'm okay.

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And he bites me on the nose.

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I'm like, I'm fine Dexter.

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I want to sleep a little more, five more minutes.

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And then they pet you.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Do you have any additional information because...

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Right.

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So we recap.

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First amendment is the reason why one is legal to a point and one is not legal to a point.

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So if you are going to, and I know a provider around here who is also an adult actor and

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they will do the porn star experience where you can tape it.

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And so technically if you happen to have a release on hand, he can say, Hey, by the way,

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I'm going to film you.

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And if I actually, a famous person Adriana Cechek does that.

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She will do fan sessions where she will have them sign releases ahead of time and they

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don't compensate her for it, but she just says, she hooks up with them and says, Hey,

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you know, I like you.

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I found you on Tinder.

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Do you want to go on a date or hang out with me?

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And great.

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If you are, go to this site and get tested.

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Yeah.

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Or go to this brick and mortar place and take a test.

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And if they have these results, then we'll hook up because she is an adult performer.

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She needs to stay tested so that she can keep working.

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And when they come back with a clean test and she'll have a sign of release and then

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they'll bang it out and sometimes put it on camera for her website.

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Sometimes not.

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And then, you know, better not.

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But that's just how she rolls.

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And as I say, the provider that here in Carolinas, she will let you film her and you can create

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content that way if she's, you know, if she agrees and you can obviously compensate her

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for her time and her, you know, you paying for her.

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And her time, not really any kind of other experience.

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That's like a bonus.

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But legally you're paying, compensating her for her time as an expert.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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I've been asked to like, if they could film me, I'm like, no, but unless it's still a

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good client and I will crop their, well, I did, I did film porn with one of my favorite,

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favorite regulars, but yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like I would personally, for me, I would have to know a person more than three times who

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comes to me, who comes in general, three times.

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But yeah, no, to film it.

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But yeah, that's cool.

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I like filming things.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And you're photogenic too.

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Yeah.

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You don't look like, you know, you don't look crazy on camera.

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What do you mean crazy on camera?

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Like, oh yeah, harder.

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I mean like, that's another great, uh, audio soundtrack for the podcast.

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You'd be like, what the hell are they doing?

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Why am I listening to this?

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This is so professional.

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We should do an ASMR session where we just talk and we just make really good sounds.

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We'll enjoy our voice.

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Oh, laugh.

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Alexa, stop laughing.

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I'm sorry.

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It's not funny.

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Alexa.

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I'm trying to hold my laugh.

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My face is all red.

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Cool.

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People who are home listening, she has a red face and they imagine you like paint your

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face bright red and you look like you're a blue skin.

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You're racist because red face would be a Native American.

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Yeah.

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That's politically correct to say that.

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I mean, Native American is politically correct, but it's not politically correct to call yourself

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a red skin.

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Got it.

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Don't laugh.

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All right, Alexa.

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I'm not.

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I'm learning while smiling.

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Right.

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And breathing at the same time.

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Don't forget to not breathe.

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All right.

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This is a good episode.

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I think this is going to be so much fun.

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People discover this podcast and then make it viral and think what in the hell is Yath

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doing?

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They don't know what they're talking about.

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They're crazy.

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We do.

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We're very sexy people and we're very smart people.

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We know lots of things.

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That's why you should listen to our podcast.