1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,560 Welcome to Confessions of Alexa Maxx podcast. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:08,560 My name is Alexa and I am here with Mr. Lane. 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:14,480 So let's talk about sex work and sex workers. 4 00:00:14,500 --> 00:00:16,840 Do you personally know anyone in this industry? 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:23,880 Yeah, so I have some friends who are sex workers, SWs, 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,940 and they've done a variety of different things. 7 00:00:27,940 --> 00:00:31,440 Some of them were cam models. 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,040 Some of them were actual escorts. 9 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,280 Some of them were phone sex operators 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,240 and just across the gamut. 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,480 And also a lot of dancers, strippers. 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,080 Just in general, I just have, 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,920 and it's not that I gravitate towards those things. 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,480 I just have a lot of friends. 15 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:52,160 I just know a lot of people 16 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:55,520 and they all come from a variety of backgrounds, 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,440 men and women included. 18 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:02,440 And it's saying sex work is empowering, 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,460 but it's also kind of speaks to how capitalism works 20 00:01:06,460 --> 00:01:09,640 in the first place that, yeah, it is just a job. 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,640 And people tend to demonize it by saying it's immoral, 22 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,000 but that's subjective. 23 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,260 Morality is a subjective term anyway. 24 00:01:21,180 --> 00:01:22,020 We can talk about that. 25 00:01:22,020 --> 00:01:23,760 So yeah, let's get into it. 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:28,760 So what, tell me a little bit about why you started this. 27 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,160 Tell me from the beginning, what were your motivations? 28 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,040 What did you think you would be doing 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,400 at this stage in your life 30 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,360 and how did you get to being a sex worker? 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,000 Sure, great, start a question. 32 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,240 So my friend, one of my friends, 33 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,200 we still communicate and whatnot. 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,760 So he found out that I had only friends 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,560 and then he texted me one day like, 36 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,840 hey, have you thought about doing this? 37 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,600 And I'm like, well, you know, no, I haven't. 38 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,800 And like, I was in the point of my life 39 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,200 when I had like less than a grant in my bank account. 40 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,440 It was like the whole, 41 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,440 I think it was like the middle of pandemic 42 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,280 and I lived with a friend of mine. 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,440 And yeah, like he knew my situation 44 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,520 at the time that I was broken kind of. 45 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:21,920 What made you decide to start OnlyFans in the first place? 46 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:26,920 Extra money because I was a broke actor at the time. 47 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,360 And OnlyFans was like a good side hustle, 48 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:33,920 good way to make money 49 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:38,240 and just good way to put myself out there basically 50 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,880 and basically get paid for my beauty, so to speak, 51 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,440 like just for my boobs and other parts of the body. 52 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,680 And yeah, and it was, eventually it was very empowering 53 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:52,520 I would say. 54 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,240 The fans definitely were very supporting 55 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,400 or whoever was on the platform and they're like, 56 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,800 oh, very nice or whatever they say. 57 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,000 But yeah, and I'm like, you know what? 58 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,600 They make me feel confident. 59 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,160 Yeah, and then I met up with my friend 60 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,520 who told me about the sex work 61 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:16,520 and I thought I didn't think of it much in the first place 62 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,200 but then I started making money and I'm like, wow, 63 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,040 why have I not done this before? 64 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,160 This is easy, this is really easy money. 65 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,200 I actually got out of debt and whatnot 66 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,840 and yeah, quite enjoyed. 67 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,040 So easy work and easy money. 68 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,640 A lot of sex workers, a lot of people in the industry 69 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,240 don't find it's easy to find it. 70 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,040 It can be difficult and draining at times. 71 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,440 How do you find that balance? 72 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,240 How do you make it easy? 73 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:46,920 What's easy to you about it? 74 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,120 I think the market that certain sex workers are in, 75 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,640 basically if you're a big city, 76 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,000 if you're a pretty smart girl who does, 77 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,880 who actually screens clouts and does the business 78 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,960 in a smart way, so to speak, 79 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,960 I think she's not gonna have a hard time. 80 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,800 But if you're in a small city with families 81 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,520 who are been there for generations, 82 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,480 counts where everybody knows each other, 83 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:14,600 I think that's gonna be hard. 84 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,040 But I'm lucky that I'm in a market where it's a mixed 85 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,440 diversity of races, of LGBT community, 86 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:22,760 married men and whatnot. 87 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,320 It does sound, sex work is hard, 88 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,080 but I think it's all about the marketing, 89 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,560 how you market yourself. 90 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,960 So for any of you by listening right now, 91 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,800 who may not know more of your background, 92 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,480 you obviously have an accent. 93 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,720 Where were you born? 94 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:43,240 So I was born in a small town 95 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,280 in the country of Ukraine. 96 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:48,560 And my mom, she was a male or the bride, 97 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,720 and she met a guy from a marriage agency 98 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,600 who invited us to come to America. 99 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,800 So here we are. 100 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,000 How long have you been in America? 101 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,360 12 years. 102 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,360 12 years, okay, good. 103 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,120 That's no context for some of the listeners 104 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,040 who may not know exactly your background. 105 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,360 So yeah, we were talking about the money aspect of it. 106 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,400 Did you do other jobs before this one? 107 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,320 And how did they compare money-wise? 108 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,680 Oh, yes. 109 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:23,680 So I worked at Starbucks, worked at- 110 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:24,520 Got out Starbucks. 111 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,320 Yes, I did work at the grocery store. 112 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,560 It was called Dollar General. 113 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,800 And then let's see, Phantom Fireworks. 114 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,960 Oh my God, like basically any job that you can think of, 115 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,640 I probably did that like from receptionist to caregiver. 116 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,760 And money-wise, those jobs, they required more time, 117 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,680 they required more energy, and they paid way less. 118 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,680 Like starting from like 7.25 an hour to 15 an hour. 119 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,720 Yeah, 15 an hour is the most I got paid before sex work. 120 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,720 And sex work obviously can pay from- 121 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,680 So the average gross due is like 300 per hour. 122 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,200 And then it can go up until like 1,800 123 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,920 is the highest amount that I found. 124 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,240 What's been the highest rate 125 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,440 that you've been paid so far doing this? 126 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,040 700. 127 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,960 700 per hour? 128 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:20,800 Yeah. 129 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,160 So I've had some friends who have done it 130 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:29,160 and they've been around the $400 an hour and a half. 131 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:32,800 Yeah, and that's just, 132 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,800 I find the most expensive of my friends 133 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,280 that I've known who've done this kind of thing. 134 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:39,480 But this person, since I don't have permission 135 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,400 to say what her name is, I'm not gonna refer. 136 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,800 But I will say that she is somebody 137 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,160 in the adult industry anyway. 138 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,960 So she's an adult industry worker. 139 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,360 And she's somewhat famous, 140 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,080 but she's a professional sex worker. 141 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,880 I mean, she not only works as an escort from time to time, 142 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,880 but she also performs in videos and does, 143 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,640 she's not a featured dancer. 144 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,720 She doesn't strip, but she does make movies. 145 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:11,760 And she's made a lot of movies. 146 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,400 And she's a Google person. 147 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,240 You can Google her and say, oh yeah, I know this is. 148 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:21,000 But anyway, obviously this is still a taboo subject 149 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,200 because it is technically illegal. 150 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,600 We're talking about this in sort of an open channel 151 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,920 and it's not like creating movies 152 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,960 or any kind of entertainment, it's actual, 153 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,120 well, parts of it are illegal. 154 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,640 I mean, technically it's not against the law 155 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,600 to have a companion that you spend time with 156 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:43,520 and you can compensate. 157 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,480 That is legal. 158 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,680 But anything else beyond that is against the law. 159 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,400 So how do you deal with that aspect of it? 160 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:56,400 I try to separate, so to speak, the real me and Alexa. 161 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:01,400 And I know like with, for example, with clients, 162 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:02,840 I always screen them. 163 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,840 Like for example, like I ask social media profile, 164 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,600 selfie, what they did, of course deposit, 165 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,280 which we're gonna talk about later, 166 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,600 but yeah, that way I can Google them. 167 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,800 I can be like, okay, he's not a cop. 168 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,640 He's not a serial killer and whatnot. 169 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,360 And yeah, because like cops never, 170 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,160 they never like provide any info about like, 171 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,000 provide any info about themselves. 172 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,200 And so there's that. 173 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,640 And whenever, you know, I go out on dates, so to speak, 174 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,080 I always try to dress conservative 175 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,240 and I always put on a wig. 176 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,120 So, you know, just to like be in disguise and whatnot. 177 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,840 Yeah, and I always go to verified websites 178 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,200 on which I promote myself. 179 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,040 Do you have a contingency plan in place 180 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,280 to deal with legal situations 181 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,680 that you may find yourself at at some point? 182 00:08:57,680 --> 00:09:02,280 I know a few lawyers who are noble help me out, 183 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,320 but let's see, I usually like have, 184 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,920 you know, baseball bat, gun on standby. 185 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:09,920 No, that's a good question. 186 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,920 I haven't actually thought about that. 187 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,800 Of course that always worries me. 188 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,360 You know, I always listen to my God and whatnot, 189 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,560 see if I could end up in a situation like this, 190 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:20,960 but no, something I need to think about. 191 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,680 You know, there's a war right now on sex workers 192 00:09:24,680 --> 00:09:27,640 and anybody in any kind of, 193 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,440 making air quotes here, people who can't see me at home. 194 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,480 The entertainment industry, and that includes dancers, 195 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,000 you know, cam models, OnlyFans, girls, 196 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,720 anybody on a fansly site, 197 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,880 anybody that's a paid entertainer. 198 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,160 And you mentioned OnlyFans earlier, 199 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,560 and they recently got into some trouble with their base 200 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:54,520 because they were going to, 201 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,640 they were going to take away aspects of erotica 202 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,480 and explicit content. 203 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:03,960 But then they reversed that decision. 204 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,760 And the basis was that there are certain providers, 205 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,920 certain credit card transaction companies 206 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,920 that were going to, not again, all about OnlyFans, 207 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:14,920 because I'm not an expert. 208 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,680 I just know, you know, from the consumer aspect of it. 209 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:21,680 And content producer aspect is that they were going to 210 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:24,920 take away the right to charge 211 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,800 with this particular credit company, 212 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,960 because pressure was put on them by religious groups. 213 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,520 And it all comes from trafficking. 214 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,360 So have you ever had any experiences 215 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,920 with the trafficking aspect of it? 216 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:44,560 I mean, is that a reality or is that just people talking? 217 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:48,480 No, I knew, well, I know a girl 218 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,200 who actually has been trafficked and arrested 219 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,320 for prostitution, but even though she's an escort, but. 220 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,280 Yeah, basically they didn't help her for a long time 221 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,120 and she was fine. 222 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,920 But yeah, she just tries to be careful now. 223 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,040 But trafficking is out there, definitely sex trafficking. 224 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,560 And I just feel bad for, 225 00:11:11,560 --> 00:11:15,480 you know, those people because they, 226 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,520 some of them got thrown into this industry 227 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,680 and they don't know what they're doing. 228 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:24,240 Yeah, it's definitely something that needs to be addressed, 229 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,120 but I don't think it's being addressed 230 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:27,760 in the right way right now. 231 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:32,080 I mean, it seems like the whole trafficking issue 232 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:36,040 is just a way for religious groups and conservative groups 233 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,720 to get a foothold into a way they can control. 234 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,320 And they've been trying to control porn 235 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,640 and explicit content since the 70s, 236 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,120 since a lot of this stuff first came out. 237 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,920 I mean, you might know about the people 238 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,240 versus Larry Flint, the movie they made 239 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:52,360 with Woody Harrelson. 240 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:55,680 Larry Flint, the pornographer, 241 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:57,120 the creator of Hustler Magazine, 242 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,000 who was tried for obscenity several times 243 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,520 and then came out on top, freedom of expression. 244 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:04,760 And let's be clear too, 245 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,600 there's a difference between being a prostitute 246 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:07,680 and an escort. 247 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:12,280 An escort is somebody who's compensated for their time 248 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:13,400 and their activity. 249 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:18,400 So like if I was gonna go to a museum premiere 250 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,200 or like a museum event, 251 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,080 and I wanted somebody to go with me, 252 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,720 I could hire somebody to escort me there. 253 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,400 That's what we're doing. 254 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,800 There's nothing illegal about that. 255 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,800 If I wanted to have intercourse with somebody for money, 256 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,480 that's technically prostitution and that is illegal. 257 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,920 But if there are two consenting adults, 258 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,520 what's the point, right? 259 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:42,480 Yeah. 260 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,800 All right, so let's go back a little bit 261 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,200 to what we said earlier. 262 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,960 You were making money doing OnlyFans, that kind of thing. 263 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,920 Were you ever looking at any other sites, 264 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,960 any other places that you could do that with? 265 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,800 I'm thinking about, well, I've registered on many vids 266 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,960 and other websites instead of OnlyFans 267 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,440 just to make an extra income. 268 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,600 But I think it's a good website. 269 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,320 So you said many vids. 270 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,080 Are you creating content? 271 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,320 Is it solo content or other performer? 272 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:16,400 Oh, yes. 273 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:17,240 Okay, yes. 274 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:22,240 So I mostly do, say 80% of my OnlyFans content is solo 275 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,440 and then 20% is with somebody else. 276 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,320 So like boy, girl videos. 277 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,200 Have you considered getting into any kind of like fetish 278 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,480 type stuff? 279 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,240 I mean, have you any requests for that? 280 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,960 I had, yes. 281 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,120 I had a guy who was into feet 282 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,240 and like to put on women's lingerie. 283 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,320 So that was interesting. 284 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,240 And then I had another person, 285 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,480 and of course, like for their safety and general, 286 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,120 I'm not gonna say the names, 287 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,760 but yeah, I had a guy who was into pegging. 288 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,000 So that was an interesting experience for me. 289 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,160 I'm like, okay, I have not done this. 290 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,160 Let's do this. 291 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,480 And plus I'm getting paid for it. 292 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:04,760 So might as well. 293 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,160 That seems to be the great big joke 294 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:16,600 with the religious right about homosexuality 295 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,040 or any kind of pegging, 296 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,680 which pegging is not entirely a homosexual act. 297 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,040 It's not, it can be heterosexual. 298 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,160 But the whole point that, you know, 299 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,960 God put the male G-spot in the anus, which is- 300 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,280 For a reason. 301 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,920 Anyway, so moving along, that's great 302 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,120 that you are getting areas 303 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,160 that you can express yourself and continue. 304 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,280 How has the money been comparing the online platforms 305 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,200 to in-person activities? 306 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,560 Oh, and yeah, in person, that's so much better 307 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:53,560 because on OnlyFans, I would say I make average 308 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:58,480 of say 180 a week, 309 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,840 but it can be as low as like 20 bucks a week, 310 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,160 whether with escorting or sex work. 311 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:09,160 I mean, I would say I make more than a grand in a week 312 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,000 with that in-person sessions. 313 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,560 So, yeah. 314 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,120 So when you've come out to people that you know about this 315 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,760 in your personal life, what's the reaction? 316 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,280 What's the general reaction been from people? 317 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,440 So this is actually interesting 318 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,320 because most of my friends are guys 319 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,520 and they were very supportive. 320 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,400 And let's see, I came out to- 321 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:40,400 Well, didn't come out, but one person found out 322 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:46,240 then I had like a CV date, so to speak, one time 323 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,080 and he was just not supportive at all. 324 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:54,080 And then another person who was a little bit confused, 325 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:59,080 a little bit conflicted, I know it was like another CV date, 326 00:15:59,080 --> 00:15:59,920 civilian date. 327 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,800 Oh yes, for listeners, CV date is a date 328 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:10,800 where I'm not getting paid, like a regular date. 329 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:11,640 But- 330 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:12,480 Civilian date, right. 331 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,440 There's civilians and there's people in the industry. 332 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,160 There's a difference, right? 333 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,240 Yes, yeah, but most of my friends, 334 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,160 but it's been supportive. 335 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:27,160 My mom, she was disappointed and sad, 336 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:33,280 but I think, you know, when I buy her a house 337 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,200 she'll be like, okay, okay, you do. 338 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:44,200 You know, you do what makes you happy, Alexa. 339 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,920 So that's part of the thing too, 340 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,840 people tend to say about, you know, 341 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,680 talking about some like regular dates 342 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,480 versus compensated dates. 343 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:02,000 You know, I've always heard the old saying is, you know, 344 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,680 you take a person out on a date and you pay for dinner, 345 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,360 you pay for a movie, you pay for, you know, 346 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:10,920 all the things that you normally pay for 347 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,520 with the expectation of, you know, 348 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,640 would I or would I not, are we going to? 349 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,040 Is there anything- 350 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:18,280 Get it made. 351 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,960 Right, exactly, to be blunt here, 352 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,160 but then when you have, you know, 353 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,960 somebody that you know for a fact that you're going to, 354 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,800 like for example, the one place where, 355 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,960 in the United States where it is legal, 356 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,920 in Pahram, Nevada, for example, 357 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,200 Nevada, it's legal in Nevada, 358 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,120 but you have to be as in a certain capital, 359 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:43,040 there has to be a certain cap on the number of population 360 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,360 in the county than to have it keep it legal. 361 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:48,720 So if you can't technically go to Vegas, Las Vegas, 362 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,280 and hire someone, you have to go outside the city 363 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,640 to a nearby town of Pahram where the brothels are 364 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,560 and work with them. 365 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,000 And so that's what they'll say is, you know, 366 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,600 if they pick you up from the town and drive you out there, 367 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:04,760 they'll say, you know, for sure, 368 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,760 you're going on a guaranteed date with this person 369 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,880 and you know you're going to get laid at the end of it. 370 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,680 And you should be spending a relative amount of money 371 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,840 in between if it's a good date, you know, a cheapskate. 372 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,240 But I know when I first met you in your personal life, 373 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,280 I will say that you and I are personal friends. 374 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,080 You mentioned sugaring really briefly, 375 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,120 early in our conversation. 376 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:30,160 And I told you about when I was a cam model a long time ago. 377 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,280 Yeah. 378 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,960 For our listeners, I was a cam model 379 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,520 for a very short period of time in 2015. 380 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,800 Yeah, and so I understand that, you know, 381 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,200 it's some people are like, oh, that's cool. 382 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,200 It's people are like, oh, that's, you know, interesting. 383 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,280 Is I've had to talk to people about my past 384 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,560 as a cam model too. 385 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,320 And some people have been cool with it. 386 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,800 My parents were confused when they found out 387 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,880 and they found out in the craziest way too. 388 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,760 I was staying with them at the time 389 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,280 and I had received a check. 390 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,080 And most of the time I had been compensated 391 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,880 through direct deposits, but for some reason, 392 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,920 something happened and I had to get a check. 393 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,880 I wasn't there and my dad and I share a name 394 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,520 and he thought it was his check. 395 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:14,640 And he was like, why do I have a check 396 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:15,600 for this amount of money? 397 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,800 And he had to research why, and he called the bank 398 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,680 and they said, this is for this account. 399 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:22,760 He's like, what is this for? 400 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,720 And they had to basically explain to him 401 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,800 what the company was and what they did. 402 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,320 Oh crap. 403 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,320 And after that, they were just like, well then. 404 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:37,240 And so, you know, my mom was worried about, you know, 405 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,040 other people finding out for my well being, 406 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,800 not for hers, but she doesn't really care. 407 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,640 But she was worried about people accepting, you know, 408 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:43,480 that I had done this. 409 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:44,880 And my dad was cool. 410 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,200 He basically said, you know, I don't care 411 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,800 how people make their money as long as they're taking care 412 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,080 of themselves and they're being careful, which is, you know, 413 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,800 a good way for, I think, a parent to be in the long run. 414 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,640 Anyway, so yeah, that's a little bit 415 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,560 of our shared background right there. 416 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:05,200 But yeah, so what are your goals for this? 417 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,760 I want to, like, would this work? 418 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:10,600 Yes. 419 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,000 Yeah. 420 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,040 Basically, I just want to be financially independent, 421 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:21,040 financially free, get a house on the beach, preferably, 422 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,080 or, you know, live abroad. 423 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,840 I think that would be really cool, you know, 424 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,440 because with the things that have been happening in America, 425 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,480 I'm just like, you know, I'm just gonna go back to Europe. 426 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,840 But yeah, basically get a house, 427 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,920 probably get a little house for my cat, 428 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,520 because I love him very much. 429 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:46,120 Get a, build like, so I'm like an animal activist, 430 00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:48,320 so to speak, like at the level one. 431 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,200 Eventually, my goal is to get a sanctuary 432 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,440 where a lot of, you know, abandoned animals, 433 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,280 a lot of neglected animals, abused animals, 434 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,960 who I basically kidnapped them 435 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:06,200 and they will live happily ever after in my sanctuary. 436 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:11,000 Then let's see, you know, by the time, 437 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,680 maybe like five years into the future, 438 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,680 I hope I would get to work on a TV show 439 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,760 or, you know, have an acting career, 440 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,960 because I don't imagine myself doing sex work 441 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,200 for a long time. 442 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,640 Let's see, that's the end. 443 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:29,600 That's another goal. 444 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,840 Then another goal is to help out my mom 445 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,840 and get her a place to live and, you know, 446 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,120 keep her close and whatnot. 447 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,880 Hopefully have a husband by that time. 448 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,640 Yeah, so I think this is, yeah, let's see, 449 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,640 house, husband, take care of mother, 450 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,360 and yeah, you know, have enough of money 451 00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:02,120 to basically not worry about money anymore, 452 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:04,160 not worry about being broke. 453 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,960 Are you meeting with a financial strategist 454 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,600 or making any kind of like long-term investment plan 455 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:12,760 to meet those goals? 456 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,720 I am investing in stocks, 457 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:21,240 and currently I'm taking real estate classes. 458 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,000 That would help me save up 459 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,040 because real estate agents are pretty, 460 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,760 pretty like wealthy, I mean, 461 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,840 depending how good they are depending in their market. 462 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,040 Well, I've always been told that real estate 463 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,360 is certainly a hustle, 464 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:41,440 and what you're doing is the ultimate hustle. 465 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,360 In fact, it's where we actually get the word hustler from. 466 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,880 What you can't see people at home, 467 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,160 what I'm doing now is I'm going to IMDB 468 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,760 and I'm going to Game of Thrones 469 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,440 because there is an actor on Game of, 470 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,960 actually a couple of actors on Game of Thrones 471 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,800 who when they, before the show came out, 472 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,400 I'm trying to get the name of this person, 473 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,200 before the show came out, 474 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,200 one of them was actually a professional escort 475 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,960 or lady of the night or whatever you want to say. 476 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:13,800 Yeah. 477 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,160 And she was hired to be on the show 478 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,800 as one of the brothel workers. 479 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:19,640 Oh. 480 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,720 In, you know, we know the, 481 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:25,400 the, 482 00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:27,200 Yeah. 483 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,040 The little thing with brothel. 484 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,240 And let's see where she was and who this person was. 485 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,480 Make sure I get it right. 486 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,520 That is interesting. 487 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,360 Yeah. 488 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:40,040 So I'm not going to be able to get exactly who it is, 489 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,120 but we can pull it up to another show. 490 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:43,640 She was hired to be on the show 491 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,960 and she became a series regular 492 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,400 and she transitioned from that world 493 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,840 into the entertainment world. 494 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,160 And so there actually, 495 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,040 and there actually are a lot of professional actors 496 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,960 who have their start in adult work or sex work. 497 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,640 The most famous one that people don't tend to talk about 498 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:05,480 as much anymore, 499 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,040 because it's been 40 years is Sylvester Stallone. 500 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,040 Yes. 501 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,640 I was going to mention, yes. 502 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,480 Right. 503 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,320 Yeah. 504 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,160 He was at, 505 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,680 I can't remember the name of the movie he did 506 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,000 when he was a struggling, starving actor. 507 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,840 And then he did a porn movie. 508 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:21,680 He did a porn movie. 509 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:22,520 Yeah. 510 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,160 And he, and I saw it years ago, just somewhere. 511 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,920 I was like, oh, okay. 512 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,400 But he, some of the money he earned from that, 513 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,600 he was able to put towards the filming of Rocky, 514 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,120 which is what he's known for, his independent film, Rocky. 515 00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:40,120 And there's, I mean, Tracy Lord is infamous for her career 516 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,080 and she's been able to transition her fame. 517 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,800 She was probably the original reality star 518 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,800 where she took her infamy of doing underage pornography 519 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,600 and then becoming a working mainstream actress. 520 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,040 And then on the other side of that, 521 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,800 in this day and age, you had Maelynn Ward, 522 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,560 who worked for the Disney channel 523 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,640 on Boy Meets World for years. 524 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,640 And in her 40s, she came out, 525 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,080 we use the word coming out. 526 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,840 She debuted as an adult performer 527 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,200 with the intention of being in adult work 528 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,840 and being an exhibitionist 529 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,760 and exploring her sensuality, which is important. 530 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,280 I mean, it's important to, if you are a sexual person, 531 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,240 and it's fine if you're not, 532 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,440 because it's okay to be who you are, 533 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,480 to be able to express that in a healthy manner 534 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,600 and not have anyone come down on you for it 535 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,960 or to give you a hard time. 536 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,080 Yes. 537 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,840 So, we're getting a lot of different information out there. 538 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,440 What are some things you would like people to know 539 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,240 about where you're going with this? 540 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,360 I just want to break the stereotype 541 00:25:56,360 --> 00:26:00,920 about how sex workers are taking advantage of, 542 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,400 how they're exploited and whatnot. 543 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,520 I mean, I know there's sex trafficking going on, 544 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,640 but that's different from sex workers. 545 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,640 And I just want people to realize 546 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,840 that it's not as bad as it sounds. 547 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,680 Like if it, because a lot of sex workers, 548 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,880 they're stay-at-home moms. 549 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,840 They are, some of them are college students 550 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,480 who are saving up for college 551 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,680 because colleges are really freaking expensive right now. 552 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,240 And let's see. 553 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,960 Yeah, I just want people to be more accepting 554 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,000 of this industry. 555 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,000 What is the stigma? 556 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,320 You mentioned that there's a stigma. 557 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,800 What is the stigma? 558 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,800 Stigma that sex workers are exploited. 559 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,640 Well, you said you wanted to end the stigma. 560 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,360 What stigma did you want to end? 561 00:26:56,360 --> 00:26:59,560 Like what is the stigma that you want people to stop? 562 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:05,520 Oh, stop like assuming that sex work is bad and yeah. 563 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,800 What would it take for people to accept that more, 564 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,720 do you think? 565 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,560 The more we talk about it, the more accepting they will be. 566 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,600 I feel like they need to keep like an open mind 567 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,360 about those kinds of things 568 00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:26,000 and not get offended by anything 569 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,240 because people are getting like, 570 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,720 they take things too seriously nowadays 571 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,760 and get offended by a lot of stuff. 572 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,000 And I think I'm going slightly off topic with this. 573 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,560 That's okay. 574 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:45,560 What would you like to see happen in the media 575 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,400 or is it like a legal thing? 576 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,520 Like where is the greatest change need to come from 577 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,320 to end this stigma? 578 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:03,800 I hope to change people's minds about the industry 579 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,800 and I would love for sex work to become legal thing, 580 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,520 because it is consensual. 581 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,640 I mean, you're not murdering anybody 582 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,320 while having sex with a stranger. 583 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,560 There are things, there are situations out there, 584 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,320 but it's not common at all. 585 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:28,320 And I just hope that people will legalize it. 586 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,320 Okay, are you aware of any efforts of lobbyists 587 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,320 to work towards that? 588 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:39,320 And I remember the Free Speech Fund 589 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,400 or the Free Speech Organization a few years ago. 590 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,200 This is gonna be so bad that I have to like go back 591 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,200 and look at these references for this interview. 592 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,480 It was the Free Speech Coalition was a group of lobbyists 593 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,920 that helped legalize and keep legal the film 594 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,600 of pornography and some of their work. 595 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,440 Like they also had legal defense funds set up 596 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,440 for people who were arrested for working in sex work 597 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,120 and decriminalizing it. 598 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,880 You should take a look at that and see if there's any way 599 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,640 you can like meet more lobbyists and meet more lawyers 600 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,000 and see where they stand with this because they... 601 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:19,840 Okay, yeah. 602 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,120 Yeah, people need to, if you organize around that idea 603 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,200 and create a network of people who can research that 604 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,040 and help that, then I think you'll go a long way 605 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,800 to getting that stigma ended. 606 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,200 Yeah. 607 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,680 All right, so let me ask you some more questions 608 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,560 basically about what you have in your story. 609 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,600 Like what, we talked about some of the negative aspects 610 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,040 of it, where are some of the positive? 611 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,520 Tell me about some times you've had 612 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,640 that made doing this worthwhile. 613 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,520 People. 614 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,520 People are very nice. 615 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,520 Okay, so when I first started, I met, I mean, 616 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,920 I met nice guys, but some of the guys were like stupid 617 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:03,920 and just not respectful, but just meeting people 618 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,320 from different backgrounds, hearing their stories, 619 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:12,320 hearing how they got to hire a companion 620 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,240 and because a lot of these guys are like, 621 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,240 they have marriage problems, some of them just work 622 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,320 all the time and don't have time to get a girlfriend 623 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,760 or to go on dates. 624 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:32,160 Let's see, second thing is money. 625 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,160 Money helps out, pay the bills, pay the rent, 626 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,160 get out of the student debt, help you save up for the... 627 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,520 Help you save up for the... 628 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,520 Help you save up for retirement. 629 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:52,520 And let's see, positive aspect. 630 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:53,840 Let's see what else, what else? 631 00:30:55,200 --> 00:31:00,200 I feel lucky and in a weird way privileged 632 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,480 to be doing this because I get more free time 633 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,240 towards doing the things that I always wanted to do. 634 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:16,240 Like the other day, like I took some Katana sword lessons 635 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,840 and doing the regular job, I would never have, 636 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,120 you know, had a chance to, or gosh, I... 637 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,880 Ooh, yes, doing the bucket list wishes 638 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,200 because I always wanted to go skydiving 639 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,360 and now I actually have money for it 640 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:45,360 and let's see, I'm not sure that money... 641 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,880 Yeah, being like financially stable, 642 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,480 financially independent, not worrying about, 643 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:56,200 oh my God, how am I gonna pay for my rent next month? 644 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,360 I don't have those problems anymore. 645 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,800 And I noticed that at this work, 646 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:06,800 I never had like real problem or never cried at the job 647 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,800 whether when I worked in the service industry, 648 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,920 people I had to deal with a lot of rude clients 649 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,920 or I'm sorry, rude customers. 650 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,920 And I just remember crying a few times while I was at work 651 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,000 and yeah, never happened with this job. 652 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,920 Is there a particular client experience that stands out 653 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,240 that you're willing to talk about 654 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,920 or you have the freedom to talk about 655 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,080 that would give some context to what your, 656 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,040 you know, average experience is like? 657 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:47,280 Well, usually, you know, guys come to me or I come to them. 658 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,280 So guys come to me and they either have like 659 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:56,280 bottle of nice wine or like a gift and we just chat. 660 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,840 And, you know, some of them are really, really, really nice. 661 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:05,560 And they ask me about like stuff, about me, like, 662 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,400 and they actually listen and they, 663 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,840 and I love it when they say, 664 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,720 your pictures don't do justice 665 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,840 and you're one of the best girls around here. 666 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,960 And I'm like, oh my God, thank you so much. 667 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,200 And oh, also one of the other aspects 668 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,200 that I actually get to travel around and yeah. 669 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,200 And I love traveling and, you know, 670 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,200 just like to national parks or really nice hotels 671 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,360 with the nice pool and yeah. 672 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,520 I'm starting to not like trail off, but yeah. 673 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,520 All right, Alexa, stay focused. 674 00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,840 Come on, I'm just kidding. 675 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,000 This is whoever you can do whatever you want to, 676 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:03,840 say whatever you want to 677 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,520 and say how you can say it is up to you, Alexa. 678 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,400 What would you like, 679 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,880 what would be your ideal date 680 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,280 with one of your clients? 681 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,280 Describe that. 682 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,480 Oh, if we go to like Europe to 683 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,480 dine in at the very nice restaurant 684 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,720 or look in the Eiffel Tower and 685 00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:32,760 go to 686 00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:36,800 opera. 687 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,520 I've never been to opera. 688 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,000 The opera. 689 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,920 The opera. 690 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:43,960 Not Oprah Winfrey. 691 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,600 So we can find out my accent. 692 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,240 I thought you said that at first. 693 00:34:51,240 --> 00:34:54,200 I was like, oh, you want to see a tape of your first show. 694 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,560 I don't think she makes those anymore. 695 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,920 I realize you meant the opera, like the Phantom of the Opera 696 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,800 or Madame Butterfly or 697 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:03,800 Yes. 698 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,920 The Flamingos. 699 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:05,760 Okay. 700 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,200 Yeah, nice dinner. 701 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:09,920 Opera. 702 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:11,840 Opera. 703 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,680 Opera. 704 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,800 Oh gosh, maybe like a nice, 705 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,920 very, very nice hotel that overlooks the entire city 706 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,120 and where I have fun and whatnot. 707 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,440 And it's like very central. 708 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,640 And okay, get enough topic, get enough topic. 709 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,200 Yes, that would be the ideal date. 710 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,200 Oh, and we do something crazy, 711 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,800 like go rescue animals from the zoo 712 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,760 and or go to like a creepy place, like a haunted place. 713 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,560 Yeah. 714 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,400 That'd be nice. 715 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,640 Okay. 716 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,520 Okay, so are you, do you have plans on working in Europe? 717 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,920 I mean, you have your Asian roots, 718 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,480 not your Asian as in you, you. 719 00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,960 I feel out of Asians, yes. 720 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:01,280 Yes, exactly. 721 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,560 I'm just trying to say, I'm not trying to say 722 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,560 you are Eurasian, I'm trying to say 723 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,760 you have connections in Europe. 724 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,480 Are you, do you have plans on going back to Europe 725 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,120 to work soon? 726 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,840 Yeah, I, once I 727 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,400 save up more money, once this whole COVID thing clears up, 728 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,760 I probably would go to Europe. 729 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,520 I mean, you know, because why not? 730 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:27,520 I'm sure people would love to see some cool Russian chicks 731 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,120 and just to travel. 732 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,400 Like even if I don't go there for work, 733 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,360 I would still love to explore Europe 734 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,640 because I've always wanted to go to Europe 735 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,520 and think it's a great country. 736 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,280 Well, sorry, great continent that has a lot of great countries 737 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:50,280 with a lot of history and just a different way of life. 738 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:55,280 What have you thought about and you create, 739 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,400 there's a lot of editing with this 740 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,240 as the very first podcast. 741 00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:07,280 It's okay, we'll get over it. 742 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,080 So I'm trying to say is have you, 743 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,640 you mentioned many vids and you mentioned your OnlyFans. 744 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,560 Have you considered getting into the content creation 745 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:21,560 business as another side hustle to the professional dates 746 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:22,520 you go on? 747 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,640 I have thought about applying as a porn star 748 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:33,640 just for extra money and why not? 749 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,920 I'm still waiting for them to email me 750 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,720 because they have not emailed me and I'm wonder why, 751 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:44,840 but yeah, that's about it. 752 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,840 Okay, what companies have you been looking at? 753 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:49,960 Are you allowed to say? 754 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,960 I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to say, 755 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,240 I just can't remember the names. 756 00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:57,440 I just Google like apply for a porn star 757 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,600 and I just kind of researched it and applied. 758 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,680 Have you been, do you test regularly for STDs? 759 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,360 Yes, test every month. 760 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,120 Every month, okay. 761 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,600 And is it like a full panel test 762 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,040 or is it just like your simple blood test? 763 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,520 Like what, full panel? 764 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,120 Okay, I know that I'm asked because a lot of industries, 765 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,920 a lot of the adult industry companies 766 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,800 will only entertain working with someone 767 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,600 who has a history of full panel testing 768 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,320 because HIV and AIDS is the most deadly disease 769 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,520 you can contract from sexually transmitted disease 770 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:45,120 and if an industry, if a performer has that 771 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,320 and they get involved and it's not caught, 772 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,080 then it can be a huge problem, 773 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,720 especially for scenes and performers 774 00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:54,720 who work without condoms or any kind of protection. 775 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,800 So yeah, it's just something to keep in mind too. 776 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,240 And also too, I mean, I guess, 777 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,920 when you do have work with clients, 778 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,160 are they protected? 779 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,720 Do you insist on protection? 780 00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:13,400 Is that what you do? 781 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,240 Yeah, like I, you know, because five minutes 782 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:20,240 of a good time is not worth having a disease 783 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:23,880 for the rest of your life. 784 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,200 So I tell everybody and doesn't matter 785 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,880 if they're clean or not, 786 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,520 there's always a risk of pregnancy, 787 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,800 which I had quite a few times, 788 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,000 but yeah, like I never do bare. 789 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,080 So it's protected like even like for, you know, 790 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,480 little jobs it has to be covered because yeah, 791 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,720 I only do it bare with one person in my life 792 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:48,440 and I'm not gonna say who it is. 793 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,520 Just like with personal, yeah. 794 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:53,720 Gotcha, yeah. 795 00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:57,280 Do you, how do you, which is another question 796 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,880 I'm interested in, how do you separate your personal 797 00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:03,480 love making and personal things like that 798 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,960 from professional work? 799 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,520 Like, is there easy to do that? 800 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:08,960 I don't know. 801 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,960 So I kind of just get in the zone when I'm Alexa 802 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,360 and then, I don't know, 803 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,760 because I know some girls they act, 804 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,640 they like to act like, you know, 805 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:32,640 when they're like a Brooke or Ava or, you know, 806 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,920 other escort names, they like to act, 807 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,040 but I just, I don't know, I just, 808 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:43,040 I'm just me in both of those, but at work, 809 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,160 I tell people to call me Alexa and in personal life, 810 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,920 obviously they call me by my real name, 811 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,120 but in personal life I dress as me, 812 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,320 I dress comfortably and professional life, 813 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,600 I dress more sexy. 814 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,600 So, and let's see how I separate those. 815 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,200 I schedule, I love to schedule, 816 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,120 organize my schedule, so like 10 to four, I work, 817 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,120 and then after that, you know, do auditions or, 818 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,240 what else do I do? 819 00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:19,760 Oh yeah, auditions and stuff like that. 820 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,080 So speaking of auditions, what does your agency 821 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,560 or your representative think about all this? 822 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,600 They have an opinion or what's going on with that? 823 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,680 Oh, I hope he does not know and he won't find out 824 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,120 because I feel like I will get dropped out, 825 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:41,120 but I had a quotation marks manager who found out 826 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,680 I had OnlyFans and she dropped me and I'm like, 827 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:48,160 well, what does this have to do like with me acting 828 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,400 and whatnot and I thought it was just very hypocritical 829 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:56,400 of her, but I was going somewhere with this stuff, oh God. 830 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,360 Yeah, I just, I told her like, hey, look, I'm broke. 831 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,400 Like I was broke, I needed money. 832 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,880 You know, it has nothing to do like this work 833 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,840 has nothing to do with me being a shitty actor and whatnot. 834 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:15,680 So yeah. 835 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,160 Okay. 836 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,320 I hope my future agents will not find out about this either 837 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:28,120 because there is a line if it will come out eventually, 838 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,360 fine, like can't do anything about it. 839 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:35,360 So, well, I mean, it's, we know you're, 840 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,560 there's a pretty good chance. 841 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,200 So what someone once said that if you ever do 842 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,840 this kind of thing, people are always gonna find out 843 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,040 like everyone finds out eventually 844 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,360 and whether it's somebody doxing you 845 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,200 because they're vindictive or just an accident. 846 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,200 Yeah. 847 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,480 It's kind of like the whole lawyer thing. 848 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,160 What's your plan in case this happens? 849 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:01,960 So I guess maybe, you know, or figuring out one of those 850 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,520 or maybe having a discussion with, you know 851 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,200 future representation going forward 852 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,480 or making a decision that, hey 853 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,320 I'd like to be this kind of performer 854 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,840 and I would like to do this kind of work. 855 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,520 And if you were already to represent me 856 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,040 then you have to accept that. 857 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,560 Oh, yeah. 858 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,000 Cause I mean, there are lots of stars and actors 859 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,960 and professionals who do work in both places. 860 00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:25,960 Like I remember a couple of years ago 861 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,760 I don't think she does anymore, but there was an actor. 862 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,360 Oh, well, you know what? 863 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,200 I'm not gonna remember what her name is. 864 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,360 So I can't, I'm not even gonna go there anymore. 865 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:41,360 So there are actors who do sensuality on camera. 866 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,720 Yeah. 867 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:45,880 And they do things, you know, after the fact, you know 868 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,840 they've done other work like Melissa Benoit 869 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,800 is a good example who plays super girl for the WB 870 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,880 or not for the CW, the W's ain't around anymore, the CW 871 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,280 but her former breakthrough performances was on Homeland 872 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,040 where she played a potential escort 873 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,120 that was going to be hired by the one of the Saudi princes. 874 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,760 And she had a tapas scene 875 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,920 and it was very, a very suggestive scene 876 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,520 but that was, you know, almost five or six years 877 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,680 before super girl. 878 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,160 That was actually an episode of Homeland 879 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,800 that I was an extra in and I got to meet the cast and crew 880 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:22,640 which was kind of cool. 881 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,880 I did not meet Melissa Benoit, but anyway, she was in that 882 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,560 and now she's been super girl. 883 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,760 And so she's even had some leaks where her and her husband 884 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,760 had some pictures of them, you know 885 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,680 while they were engaged in having sex leak 886 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,600 on a porn hub and you can see that and it's good stuff. 887 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,880 I mean, but the problem with the fapping 888 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,400 and the leaks and everything is that it's not consensual 889 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,360 and it's great, it's good stuff 890 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,600 but only good into the point of that it's well done. 891 00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,520 But on the other side of it, you know, any kind 892 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,640 of revenge porn or non-consensual doxing 893 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:07,560 of somebody is immoral, talking about morality earlier. 894 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,520 It's a hard line, you know, you can't support 895 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,160 you know, non-consensual activity of any kind. 896 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,240 And that's something we really got to work for. 897 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:19,480 Do you have anybody that's ever tried to do things 898 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,560 against your like your comfort zone or your boundaries? 899 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:28,560 Oh yeah, I had two guys who pushed me to do it 900 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,040 like all bare and I did and I had to like literally 901 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,960 kick them out of my apartment because I'm like, you know 902 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,920 what, I'm not gonna do it and I'm not comfortable with it. 903 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,920 So yeah, but then, yeah, that's about it. 904 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,040 I didn't have like super crazy incident. 905 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,080 Well, it was like pushed out of my comfort zone. 906 00:45:55,080 --> 00:46:00,080 I actually felt more pressured when doing anything 907 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,800 when I was before I became an escort. 908 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,360 So yeah. 909 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:09,360 So when you, I understand a lot of the dynamics 910 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,360 of that kind of transaction is a power play. 911 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,240 Who holds the power in this situation? 912 00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:16,080 You or the client? 913 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,400 Me, yeah, because they're, they're paying me for my time. 914 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,720 And if I'm not comfortable, I can take their money 915 00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:29,440 keep their money and kick them out. 916 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,840 And then because I get to decide what to do 917 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,840 because I get to decide what is comfortable and yeah, 918 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:47,000 like they booked with me so I can do whatever I want 919 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,360 pretty much, but you know, I try to be nice to everybody 920 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,600 and they're nice back. 921 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,720 You give what you get what you give, right? 922 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:03,400 Yes, yes, exactly. 923 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,280 Yeah, even if they're rude 924 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,040 I'm still like taking the high road and smile. 925 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,960 And I'm not like, yeah, now book with them again. 926 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:15,800 So yeah. 927 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,440 Do you have somebody that manages your booking 928 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:19,720 or do you do it all yourself? 929 00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:22,720 Nope, I do it all by myself. 930 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:26,360 In the future, I probably will hire somebody to, 931 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,480 you know, to take care of emails, to take care of bookings 932 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,320 because I know a lot of girls do have assistance 933 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:39,320 and yeah, depends on her crazy schedule. 934 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,120 Yeah, but I like to do everything by myself 935 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,960 because otherwise I have to pay them 936 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,560 and I don't feel like doing that yet. 937 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:48,560 So yeah. 938 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,760 You mentioned your friend that you started doing this with 939 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,000 he was also your driver. 940 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:54,840 Yeah. 941 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:58,920 What was that relationship like? 942 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,520 How long did he last working with him? 943 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,600 What was going on with that? 944 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:08,280 So, yeah, no, he's great. 945 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,200 He's a nice guy. 946 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:14,200 And let's see, he took care of the texts 947 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:21,160 he took care of emails and he took 40% 948 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,840 but he didn't do like proper work. 949 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,400 Like he didn't screen clients. 950 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,560 He didn't book the hotels I did. 951 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,000 Yeah, like he didn't really do a whole lot of work 952 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,640 but you know, we still talk and I, 953 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:45,320 it was a mutual decision to like, look, this is not working. 954 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,120 Yeah. 955 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,880 Let's see, and that relationship lasted for like 956 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,320 three months, I would say 957 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,120 but I've been doing this for seven months. 958 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:57,960 So. 959 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,640 What is the difference between doing this and sugaring? 960 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,280 Cause I know you've had some experience sugaring before 961 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,680 but is this the same thing or is this something different? 962 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:11,600 No. 963 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,120 So having a sugar daddy is like 964 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,480 getting paid a certain sum per week. 965 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,400 And you can have sex as many times as you want to 966 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:23,920 and potentially go on dates 967 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:28,200 but and you have to rely on that person 968 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,080 whether escorting is like you're your own person. 969 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,680 You can, you know, screw whoever you wanted 970 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,600 and have sex with anybody while getting paid more. 971 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,000 And whether like with sugar daddy, it's 972 00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:44,240 most of the time it's one person 973 00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:48,280 but you can have like four sugar daddies 974 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:54,280 from what I've heard, but yeah. 975 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:55,480 Okay. 976 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,760 Do you, have you ever had any, 977 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,720 have you had any experience working with, 978 00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:02,280 you mentioned fetishes, a few fetishes earlier 979 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,160 and like some guys that did cross dressing and stuff. 980 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,520 Have you ever gotten into actually BDSM work? 981 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,080 No, not yet. 982 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,880 I want to, I think it's, it would be fun. 983 00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:15,560 Okay. 984 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,160 Do you, have you done any of that? 985 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,280 Well, let me ask you another question. 986 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,600 This is the, we're getting close to an hour here. 987 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,520 What's the biggest difference between your personal 988 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:33,240 experiences versus your professional experiences 989 00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:34,640 when it comes to sex? 990 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:35,760 What's the difference? 991 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,760 Oh, that's a good question. 992 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:43,760 Cause with my professional life, it's like a routine 993 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:48,760 whether with personal life, it's very unexpected. 994 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,400 I would say the sex thing. 995 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,840 Yeah. Cause like the clients, they know where they're going. 996 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,120 They know what they're going to do. 997 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,640 I'm going to like give them a drink and then we're going to 998 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:05,640 but then with personal life, it's, you know, 999 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,640 we might watch a movie or we might just cuddle 1000 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,560 and might have sex. 1001 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,320 It's always unexpected. 1002 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:20,720 Okay. 1003 00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:23,840 Is there anything you'd like to summarize 1004 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,240 with this particular interview? 1005 00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:27,880 Yes. 1006 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,960 Basically, I just want people to be more accepting, 1007 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,200 to be open-minded about this kind of work and 1008 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:40,200 it's not as bad as it seems. 1009 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,120 And it's not as bad as the media makes it 1010 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,000 because media lies about all kinds of stuff, 1011 00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:52,600 especially sex work. 1012 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:55,840 All right. 1013 00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:00,840 Well, I am Mr. Lane and this is the lovely Alexa Max 1014 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,120 with three X's in her name to give you an idea 1015 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,920 of what she's about. 1016 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:06,960 I'm just kidding. 1017 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:07,800 But that's good. 1018 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:34,800 You have three X's here, Alexa Max.