Welcome to Confessions of Alexa Maxx podcast.
My name is Alexa and I am here with Mr. Lane.
So let's talk about sex work and sex workers.
Do you personally know anyone in this industry?
Yeah, so I have some friends who are sex workers, SWs,
and they've done a variety of different things.
Some of them were cam models.
Some of them were actual escorts.
Some of them were phone sex operators
and just across the gamut.
And also a lot of dancers, strippers.
Just in general, I just have,
and it's not that I gravitate towards those things.
I just have a lot of friends.
I just know a lot of people
and they all come from a variety of backgrounds,
men and women included.
And it's saying sex work is empowering,
but it's also kind of speaks to how capitalism works
in the first place that, yeah, it is just a job.
And people tend to demonize it by saying it's immoral,
but that's subjective.
Morality is a subjective term anyway.
We can talk about that.
So yeah, let's get into it.
So what, tell me a little bit about why you started this.
Tell me from the beginning, what were your motivations?
What did you think you would be doing
at this stage in your life
and how did you get to being a sex worker?
Sure, great, start a question.
So my friend, one of my friends,
we still communicate and whatnot.
So he found out that I had only friends
and then he texted me one day like,
hey, have you thought about doing this?
And I'm like, well, you know, no, I haven't.
And like, I was in the point of my life
when I had like less than a grant in my bank account.
It was like the whole,
I think it was like the middle of pandemic
and I lived with a friend of mine.
And yeah, like he knew my situation
at the time that I was broken kind of.
What made you decide to start OnlyFans in the first place?
Extra money because I was a broke actor at the time.
And OnlyFans was like a good side hustle,
good way to make money
and just good way to put myself out there basically
and basically get paid for my beauty, so to speak,
like just for my boobs and other parts of the body.
And yeah, and it was, eventually it was very empowering
I would say.
The fans definitely were very supporting
or whoever was on the platform and they're like,
oh, very nice or whatever they say.
But yeah, and I'm like, you know what?
They make me feel confident.
Yeah, and then I met up with my friend
who told me about the sex work
and I thought I didn't think of it much in the first place
but then I started making money and I'm like, wow,
why have I not done this before?
This is easy, this is really easy money.
I actually got out of debt and whatnot
and yeah, quite enjoyed.
So easy work and easy money.
A lot of sex workers, a lot of people in the industry
don't find it's easy to find it.
It can be difficult and draining at times.
How do you find that balance?
How do you make it easy?
What's easy to you about it?
I think the market that certain sex workers are in,
basically if you're a big city,
if you're a pretty smart girl who does,
who actually screens clouts and does the business
in a smart way, so to speak,
I think she's not gonna have a hard time.
But if you're in a small city with families
who are been there for generations,
counts where everybody knows each other,
I think that's gonna be hard.
But I'm lucky that I'm in a market where it's a mixed
diversity of races, of LGBT community,
married men and whatnot.
It does sound, sex work is hard,
but I think it's all about the marketing,
how you market yourself.
So for any of you by listening right now,
who may not know more of your background,
you obviously have an accent.
Where were you born?
So I was born in a small town
in the country of Ukraine.
And my mom, she was a male or the bride,
and she met a guy from a marriage agency
who invited us to come to America.
So here we are.
How long have you been in America?
12 years.
12 years, okay, good.
That's no context for some of the listeners
who may not know exactly your background.
So yeah, we were talking about the money aspect of it.
Did you do other jobs before this one?
And how did they compare money-wise?
Oh, yes.
So I worked at Starbucks, worked at-
Got out Starbucks.
Yes, I did work at the grocery store.
It was called Dollar General.
And then let's see, Phantom Fireworks.
Oh my God, like basically any job that you can think of,
I probably did that like from receptionist to caregiver.
And money-wise, those jobs, they required more time,
they required more energy, and they paid way less.
Like starting from like 7.25 an hour to 15 an hour.
Yeah, 15 an hour is the most I got paid before sex work.
And sex work obviously can pay from-
So the average gross due is like 300 per hour.
And then it can go up until like 1,800
is the highest amount that I found.
What's been the highest rate
that you've been paid so far doing this?
700.
700 per hour?
Yeah.
So I've had some friends who have done it
and they've been around the $400 an hour and a half.
Yeah, and that's just,
I find the most expensive of my friends
that I've known who've done this kind of thing.
But this person, since I don't have permission
to say what her name is, I'm not gonna refer.
But I will say that she is somebody
in the adult industry anyway.
So she's an adult industry worker.
And she's somewhat famous,
but she's a professional sex worker.
I mean, she not only works as an escort from time to time,
but she also performs in videos and does,
she's not a featured dancer.
She doesn't strip, but she does make movies.
And she's made a lot of movies.
And she's a Google person.
You can Google her and say, oh yeah, I know this is.
But anyway, obviously this is still a taboo subject
because it is technically illegal.
We're talking about this in sort of an open channel
and it's not like creating movies
or any kind of entertainment, it's actual,
well, parts of it are illegal.
I mean, technically it's not against the law
to have a companion that you spend time with
and you can compensate.
That is legal.
But anything else beyond that is against the law.
So how do you deal with that aspect of it?
I try to separate, so to speak, the real me and Alexa.
And I know like with, for example, with clients,
I always screen them.
Like for example, like I ask social media profile,
selfie, what they did, of course deposit,
which we're gonna talk about later,
but yeah, that way I can Google them.
I can be like, okay, he's not a cop.
He's not a serial killer and whatnot.
And yeah, because like cops never,
they never like provide any info about like,
provide any info about themselves.
And so there's that.
And whenever, you know, I go out on dates, so to speak,
I always try to dress conservative
and I always put on a wig.
So, you know, just to like be in disguise and whatnot.
Yeah, and I always go to verified websites
on which I promote myself.
Do you have a contingency plan in place
to deal with legal situations
that you may find yourself at at some point?
I know a few lawyers who are noble help me out,
but let's see, I usually like have,
you know, baseball bat, gun on standby.
No, that's a good question.
I haven't actually thought about that.
Of course that always worries me.
You know, I always listen to my God and whatnot,
see if I could end up in a situation like this,
but no, something I need to think about.
You know, there's a war right now on sex workers
and anybody in any kind of,
making air quotes here, people who can't see me at home.
The entertainment industry, and that includes dancers,
you know, cam models, OnlyFans, girls,
anybody on a fansly site,
anybody that's a paid entertainer.
And you mentioned OnlyFans earlier,
and they recently got into some trouble with their base
because they were going to,
they were going to take away aspects of erotica
and explicit content.
But then they reversed that decision.
And the basis was that there are certain providers,
certain credit card transaction companies
that were going to, not again, all about OnlyFans,
because I'm not an expert.
I just know, you know, from the consumer aspect of it.
And content producer aspect is that they were going to
take away the right to charge
with this particular credit company,
because pressure was put on them by religious groups.
And it all comes from trafficking.
So have you ever had any experiences
with the trafficking aspect of it?
I mean, is that a reality or is that just people talking?
No, I knew, well, I know a girl
who actually has been trafficked and arrested
for prostitution, but even though she's an escort, but.
Yeah, basically they didn't help her for a long time
and she was fine.
But yeah, she just tries to be careful now.
But trafficking is out there, definitely sex trafficking.
And I just feel bad for,
you know, those people because they,
some of them got thrown into this industry
and they don't know what they're doing.
Yeah, it's definitely something that needs to be addressed,
but I don't think it's being addressed
in the right way right now.
I mean, it seems like the whole trafficking issue
is just a way for religious groups and conservative groups
to get a foothold into a way they can control.
And they've been trying to control porn
and explicit content since the 70s,
since a lot of this stuff first came out.
I mean, you might know about the people
versus Larry Flint, the movie they made
with Woody Harrelson.
Larry Flint, the pornographer,
the creator of Hustler Magazine,
who was tried for obscenity several times
and then came out on top, freedom of expression.
And let's be clear too,
there's a difference between being a prostitute
and an escort.
An escort is somebody who's compensated for their time
and their activity.
So like if I was gonna go to a museum premiere
or like a museum event,
and I wanted somebody to go with me,
I could hire somebody to escort me there.
That's what we're doing.
There's nothing illegal about that.
If I wanted to have intercourse with somebody for money,
that's technically prostitution and that is illegal.
But if there are two consenting adults,
what's the point, right?
Yeah.
All right, so let's go back a little bit
to what we said earlier.
You were making money doing OnlyFans, that kind of thing.
Were you ever looking at any other sites,
any other places that you could do that with?
I'm thinking about, well, I've registered on many vids
and other websites instead of OnlyFans
just to make an extra income.
But I think it's a good website.
So you said many vids.
Are you creating content?
Is it solo content or other performer?
Oh, yes.
Okay, yes.
So I mostly do, say 80% of my OnlyFans content is solo
and then 20% is with somebody else.
So like boy, girl videos.
Have you considered getting into any kind of like fetish
type stuff?
I mean, have you any requests for that?
I had, yes.
I had a guy who was into feet
and like to put on women's lingerie.
So that was interesting.
And then I had another person,
and of course, like for their safety and general,
I'm not gonna say the names,
but yeah, I had a guy who was into pegging.
So that was an interesting experience for me.
I'm like, okay, I have not done this.
Let's do this.
And plus I'm getting paid for it.
So might as well.
That seems to be the great big joke
with the religious right about homosexuality
or any kind of pegging,
which pegging is not entirely a homosexual act.
It's not, it can be heterosexual.
But the whole point that, you know,
God put the male G-spot in the anus, which is-
For a reason.
Anyway, so moving along, that's great
that you are getting areas
that you can express yourself and continue.
How has the money been comparing the online platforms
to in-person activities?
Oh, and yeah, in person, that's so much better
because on OnlyFans, I would say I make average
of say 180 a week,
but it can be as low as like 20 bucks a week,
whether with escorting or sex work.
I mean, I would say I make more than a grand in a week
with that in-person sessions.
So, yeah.
So when you've come out to people that you know about this
in your personal life, what's the reaction?
What's the general reaction been from people?
So this is actually interesting
because most of my friends are guys
and they were very supportive.
And let's see, I came out to-
Well, didn't come out, but one person found out
then I had like a CV date, so to speak, one time
and he was just not supportive at all.
And then another person who was a little bit confused,
a little bit conflicted, I know it was like another CV date,
civilian date.
Oh yes, for listeners, CV date is a date
where I'm not getting paid, like a regular date.
But-
Civilian date, right.
There's civilians and there's people in the industry.
There's a difference, right?
Yes, yeah, but most of my friends,
but it's been supportive.
My mom, she was disappointed and sad,
but I think, you know, when I buy her a house
she'll be like, okay, okay, you do.
You know, you do what makes you happy, Alexa.
So that's part of the thing too,
people tend to say about, you know,
talking about some like regular dates
versus compensated dates.
You know, I've always heard the old saying is, you know,
you take a person out on a date and you pay for dinner,
you pay for a movie, you pay for, you know,
all the things that you normally pay for
with the expectation of, you know,
would I or would I not, are we going to?
Is there anything-
Get it made.
Right, exactly, to be blunt here,
but then when you have, you know,
somebody that you know for a fact that you're going to,
like for example, the one place where,
in the United States where it is legal,
in Pahram, Nevada, for example,
Nevada, it's legal in Nevada,
but you have to be as in a certain capital,
there has to be a certain cap on the number of population
in the county than to have it keep it legal.
So if you can't technically go to Vegas, Las Vegas,
and hire someone, you have to go outside the city
to a nearby town of Pahram where the brothels are
and work with them.
And so that's what they'll say is, you know,
if they pick you up from the town and drive you out there,
they'll say, you know, for sure,
you're going on a guaranteed date with this person
and you know you're going to get laid at the end of it.
And you should be spending a relative amount of money
in between if it's a good date, you know, a cheapskate.
But I know when I first met you in your personal life,
I will say that you and I are personal friends.
You mentioned sugaring really briefly,
early in our conversation.
And I told you about when I was a cam model a long time ago.
Yeah.
For our listeners, I was a cam model
for a very short period of time in 2015.
Yeah, and so I understand that, you know,
it's some people are like, oh, that's cool.
It's people are like, oh, that's, you know, interesting.
Is I've had to talk to people about my past
as a cam model too.
And some people have been cool with it.
My parents were confused when they found out
and they found out in the craziest way too.
I was staying with them at the time
and I had received a check.
And most of the time I had been compensated
through direct deposits, but for some reason,
something happened and I had to get a check.
I wasn't there and my dad and I share a name
and he thought it was his check.
And he was like, why do I have a check
for this amount of money?
And he had to research why, and he called the bank
and they said, this is for this account.
He's like, what is this for?
And they had to basically explain to him
what the company was and what they did.
Oh crap.
And after that, they were just like, well then.
And so, you know, my mom was worried about, you know,
other people finding out for my well being,
not for hers, but she doesn't really care.
But she was worried about people accepting, you know,
that I had done this.
And my dad was cool.
He basically said, you know, I don't care
how people make their money as long as they're taking care
of themselves and they're being careful, which is, you know,
a good way for, I think, a parent to be in the long run.
Anyway, so yeah, that's a little bit
of our shared background right there.
But yeah, so what are your goals for this?
I want to, like, would this work?
Yes.
Yeah.
Basically, I just want to be financially independent,
financially free, get a house on the beach, preferably,
or, you know, live abroad.
I think that would be really cool, you know,
because with the things that have been happening in America,
I'm just like, you know, I'm just gonna go back to Europe.
But yeah, basically get a house,
probably get a little house for my cat,
because I love him very much.
Get a, build like, so I'm like an animal activist,
so to speak, like at the level one.
Eventually, my goal is to get a sanctuary
where a lot of, you know, abandoned animals,
a lot of neglected animals, abused animals,
who I basically kidnapped them
and they will live happily ever after in my sanctuary.
Then let's see, you know, by the time,
maybe like five years into the future,
I hope I would get to work on a TV show
or, you know, have an acting career,
because I don't imagine myself doing sex work
for a long time.
Let's see, that's the end.
That's another goal.
Then another goal is to help out my mom
and get her a place to live and, you know,
keep her close and whatnot.
Hopefully have a husband by that time.
Yeah, so I think this is, yeah, let's see,
house, husband, take care of mother,
and yeah, you know, have enough of money
to basically not worry about money anymore,
not worry about being broke.
Are you meeting with a financial strategist
or making any kind of like long-term investment plan
to meet those goals?
I am investing in stocks,
and currently I'm taking real estate classes.
That would help me save up
because real estate agents are pretty,
pretty like wealthy, I mean,
depending how good they are depending in their market.
Well, I've always been told that real estate
is certainly a hustle,
and what you're doing is the ultimate hustle.
In fact, it's where we actually get the word hustler from.
What you can't see people at home,
what I'm doing now is I'm going to IMDB
and I'm going to Game of Thrones
because there is an actor on Game of,
actually a couple of actors on Game of Thrones
who when they, before the show came out,
I'm trying to get the name of this person,
before the show came out,
one of them was actually a professional escort
or lady of the night or whatever you want to say.
Yeah.
And she was hired to be on the show
as one of the brothel workers.
Oh.
In, you know, we know the,
the,
Yeah.
The little thing with brothel.
And let's see where she was and who this person was.
Make sure I get it right.
That is interesting.
Yeah.
So I'm not going to be able to get exactly who it is,
but we can pull it up to another show.
She was hired to be on the show
and she became a series regular
and she transitioned from that world
into the entertainment world.
And so there actually,
and there actually are a lot of professional actors
who have their start in adult work or sex work.
The most famous one that people don't tend to talk about
as much anymore,
because it's been 40 years is Sylvester Stallone.
Yes.
I was going to mention, yes.
Right.
Yeah.
He was at,
I can't remember the name of the movie he did
when he was a struggling, starving actor.
And then he did a porn movie.
He did a porn movie.
Yeah.
And he, and I saw it years ago, just somewhere.
I was like, oh, okay.
But he, some of the money he earned from that,
he was able to put towards the filming of Rocky,
which is what he's known for, his independent film, Rocky.
And there's, I mean, Tracy Lord is infamous for her career
and she's been able to transition her fame.
She was probably the original reality star
where she took her infamy of doing underage pornography
and then becoming a working mainstream actress.
And then on the other side of that,
in this day and age, you had Maelynn Ward,
who worked for the Disney channel
on Boy Meets World for years.
And in her 40s, she came out,
we use the word coming out.
She debuted as an adult performer
with the intention of being in adult work
and being an exhibitionist
and exploring her sensuality, which is important.
I mean, it's important to, if you are a sexual person,
and it's fine if you're not,
because it's okay to be who you are,
to be able to express that in a healthy manner
and not have anyone come down on you for it
or to give you a hard time.
Yes.
So, we're getting a lot of different information out there.
What are some things you would like people to know
about where you're going with this?
I just want to break the stereotype
about how sex workers are taking advantage of,
how they're exploited and whatnot.
I mean, I know there's sex trafficking going on,
but that's different from sex workers.
And I just want people to realize
that it's not as bad as it sounds.
Like if it, because a lot of sex workers,
they're stay-at-home moms.
They are, some of them are college students
who are saving up for college
because colleges are really freaking expensive right now.
And let's see.
Yeah, I just want people to be more accepting
of this industry.
What is the stigma?
You mentioned that there's a stigma.
What is the stigma?
Stigma that sex workers are exploited.
Well, you said you wanted to end the stigma.
What stigma did you want to end?
Like what is the stigma that you want people to stop?
Oh, stop like assuming that sex work is bad and yeah.
What would it take for people to accept that more,
do you think?
The more we talk about it, the more accepting they will be.
I feel like they need to keep like an open mind
about those kinds of things
and not get offended by anything
because people are getting like,
they take things too seriously nowadays
and get offended by a lot of stuff.
And I think I'm going slightly off topic with this.
That's okay.
What would you like to see happen in the media
or is it like a legal thing?
Like where is the greatest change need to come from
to end this stigma?
I hope to change people's minds about the industry
and I would love for sex work to become legal thing,
because it is consensual.
I mean, you're not murdering anybody
while having sex with a stranger.
There are things, there are situations out there,
but it's not common at all.
And I just hope that people will legalize it.
Okay, are you aware of any efforts of lobbyists
to work towards that?
And I remember the Free Speech Fund
or the Free Speech Organization a few years ago.
This is gonna be so bad that I have to like go back
and look at these references for this interview.
It was the Free Speech Coalition was a group of lobbyists
that helped legalize and keep legal the film
of pornography and some of their work.
Like they also had legal defense funds set up
for people who were arrested for working in sex work
and decriminalizing it.
You should take a look at that and see if there's any way
you can like meet more lobbyists and meet more lawyers
and see where they stand with this because they...
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, people need to, if you organize around that idea
and create a network of people who can research that
and help that, then I think you'll go a long way
to getting that stigma ended.
Yeah.
All right, so let me ask you some more questions
basically about what you have in your story.
Like what, we talked about some of the negative aspects
of it, where are some of the positive?
Tell me about some times you've had
that made doing this worthwhile.
People.
People are very nice.
Okay, so when I first started, I met, I mean,
I met nice guys, but some of the guys were like stupid
and just not respectful, but just meeting people
from different backgrounds, hearing their stories,
hearing how they got to hire a companion
and because a lot of these guys are like,
they have marriage problems, some of them just work
all the time and don't have time to get a girlfriend
or to go on dates.
Let's see, second thing is money.
Money helps out, pay the bills, pay the rent,
get out of the student debt, help you save up for the...
Help you save up for the...
Help you save up for retirement.
And let's see, positive aspect.
Let's see what else, what else?
I feel lucky and in a weird way privileged
to be doing this because I get more free time
towards doing the things that I always wanted to do.
Like the other day, like I took some Katana sword lessons
and doing the regular job, I would never have,
you know, had a chance to, or gosh, I...
Ooh, yes, doing the bucket list wishes
because I always wanted to go skydiving
and now I actually have money for it
and let's see, I'm not sure that money...
Yeah, being like financially stable,
financially independent, not worrying about,
oh my God, how am I gonna pay for my rent next month?
I don't have those problems anymore.
And I noticed that at this work,
I never had like real problem or never cried at the job
whether when I worked in the service industry,
people I had to deal with a lot of rude clients
or I'm sorry, rude customers.
And I just remember crying a few times while I was at work
and yeah, never happened with this job.
Is there a particular client experience that stands out
that you're willing to talk about
or you have the freedom to talk about
that would give some context to what your,
you know, average experience is like?
Well, usually, you know, guys come to me or I come to them.
So guys come to me and they either have like
bottle of nice wine or like a gift and we just chat.
And, you know, some of them are really, really, really nice.
And they ask me about like stuff, about me, like,
and they actually listen and they,
and I love it when they say,
your pictures don't do justice
and you're one of the best girls around here.
And I'm like, oh my God, thank you so much.
And oh, also one of the other aspects
that I actually get to travel around and yeah.
And I love traveling and, you know,
just like to national parks or really nice hotels
with the nice pool and yeah.
I'm starting to not like trail off, but yeah.
All right, Alexa, stay focused.
Come on, I'm just kidding.
This is whoever you can do whatever you want to,
say whatever you want to
and say how you can say it is up to you, Alexa.
What would you like,
what would be your ideal date
with one of your clients?
Describe that.
Oh, if we go to like Europe to
dine in at the very nice restaurant
or look in the Eiffel Tower and
go to
opera.
I've never been to opera.
The opera.
Not Oprah Winfrey.
So we can find out my accent.
I thought you said that at first.
I was like, oh, you want to see a tape of your first show.
I don't think she makes those anymore.
I realize you meant the opera, like the Phantom of the Opera
or Madame Butterfly or
Yes.
The Flamingos.
Okay.
Yeah, nice dinner.
Opera.
Oh gosh, maybe like a nice,
very, very nice hotel that overlooks the entire city
and where I have fun and whatnot.
And it's like very central.
And okay, get enough topic, get enough topic.
Yes, that would be the ideal date.
Oh, and we do something crazy,
like go rescue animals from the zoo
and or go to like a creepy place, like a haunted place.
Yeah.
That'd be nice.
Okay.
Okay, so are you, do you have plans on working in Europe?
I mean, you have your Asian roots,
not your Asian as in you, you.
I feel out of Asians, yes.
Yes, exactly.
I'm just trying to say, I'm not trying to say
you are Eurasian, I'm trying to say
you have connections in Europe.
Are you, do you have plans on going back to Europe
to work soon?
Yeah, I, once I
save up more money, once this whole COVID thing clears up,
I probably would go to Europe.
I mean, you know, because why not?
I'm sure people would love to see some cool Russian chicks
and just to travel.
Like even if I don't go there for work,
I would still love to explore Europe
because I've always wanted to go to Europe
and think it's a great country.
Well, sorry, great continent that has a lot of great countries
with a lot of history and just a different way of life.
What have you thought about and you create,
there's a lot of editing with this
as the very first podcast.
It's okay, we'll get over it.
So I'm trying to say is have you,
you mentioned many vids and you mentioned your OnlyFans.
Have you considered getting into the content creation
business as another side hustle to the professional dates
you go on?
I have thought about applying as a porn star
just for extra money and why not?
I'm still waiting for them to email me
because they have not emailed me and I'm wonder why,
but yeah, that's about it.
Okay, what companies have you been looking at?
Are you allowed to say?
I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to say,
I just can't remember the names.
I just Google like apply for a porn star
and I just kind of researched it and applied.
Have you been, do you test regularly for STDs?
Yes, test every month.
Every month, okay.
And is it like a full panel test
or is it just like your simple blood test?
Like what, full panel?
Okay, I know that I'm asked because a lot of industries,
a lot of the adult industry companies
will only entertain working with someone
who has a history of full panel testing
because HIV and AIDS is the most deadly disease
you can contract from sexually transmitted disease
and if an industry, if a performer has that
and they get involved and it's not caught,
then it can be a huge problem,
especially for scenes and performers
who work without condoms or any kind of protection.
So yeah, it's just something to keep in mind too.
And also too, I mean, I guess,
when you do have work with clients,
are they protected?
Do you insist on protection?
Is that what you do?
Yeah, like I, you know, because five minutes
of a good time is not worth having a disease
for the rest of your life.
So I tell everybody and doesn't matter
if they're clean or not,
there's always a risk of pregnancy,
which I had quite a few times,
but yeah, like I never do bare.
So it's protected like even like for, you know,
little jobs it has to be covered because yeah,
I only do it bare with one person in my life
and I'm not gonna say who it is.
Just like with personal, yeah.
Gotcha, yeah.
Do you, how do you, which is another question
I'm interested in, how do you separate your personal
love making and personal things like that
from professional work?
Like, is there easy to do that?
I don't know.
So I kind of just get in the zone when I'm Alexa
and then, I don't know,
because I know some girls they act,
they like to act like, you know,
when they're like a Brooke or Ava or, you know,
other escort names, they like to act,
but I just, I don't know, I just,
I'm just me in both of those, but at work,
I tell people to call me Alexa and in personal life,
obviously they call me by my real name,
but in personal life I dress as me,
I dress comfortably and professional life,
I dress more sexy.
So, and let's see how I separate those.
I schedule, I love to schedule,
organize my schedule, so like 10 to four, I work,
and then after that, you know, do auditions or,
what else do I do?
Oh yeah, auditions and stuff like that.
So speaking of auditions, what does your agency
or your representative think about all this?
They have an opinion or what's going on with that?
Oh, I hope he does not know and he won't find out
because I feel like I will get dropped out,
but I had a quotation marks manager who found out
I had OnlyFans and she dropped me and I'm like,
well, what does this have to do like with me acting
and whatnot and I thought it was just very hypocritical
of her, but I was going somewhere with this stuff, oh God.
Yeah, I just, I told her like, hey, look, I'm broke.
Like I was broke, I needed money.
You know, it has nothing to do like this work
has nothing to do with me being a shitty actor and whatnot.
So yeah.
Okay.
I hope my future agents will not find out about this either
because there is a line if it will come out eventually,
fine, like can't do anything about it.
So, well, I mean, it's, we know you're,
there's a pretty good chance.
So what someone once said that if you ever do
this kind of thing, people are always gonna find out
like everyone finds out eventually
and whether it's somebody doxing you
because they're vindictive or just an accident.
Yeah.
It's kind of like the whole lawyer thing.
What's your plan in case this happens?
So I guess maybe, you know, or figuring out one of those
or maybe having a discussion with, you know
future representation going forward
or making a decision that, hey
I'd like to be this kind of performer
and I would like to do this kind of work.
And if you were already to represent me
then you have to accept that.
Oh, yeah.
Cause I mean, there are lots of stars and actors
and professionals who do work in both places.
Like I remember a couple of years ago
I don't think she does anymore, but there was an actor.
Oh, well, you know what?
I'm not gonna remember what her name is.
So I can't, I'm not even gonna go there anymore.
So there are actors who do sensuality on camera.
Yeah.
And they do things, you know, after the fact, you know
they've done other work like Melissa Benoit
is a good example who plays super girl for the WB
or not for the CW, the W's ain't around anymore, the CW
but her former breakthrough performances was on Homeland
where she played a potential escort
that was going to be hired by the one of the Saudi princes.
And she had a tapas scene
and it was very, a very suggestive scene
but that was, you know, almost five or six years
before super girl.
That was actually an episode of Homeland
that I was an extra in and I got to meet the cast and crew
which was kind of cool.
I did not meet Melissa Benoit, but anyway, she was in that
and now she's been super girl.
And so she's even had some leaks where her and her husband
had some pictures of them, you know
while they were engaged in having sex leak
on a porn hub and you can see that and it's good stuff.
I mean, but the problem with the fapping
and the leaks and everything is that it's not consensual
and it's great, it's good stuff
but only good into the point of that it's well done.
But on the other side of it, you know, any kind
of revenge porn or non-consensual doxing
of somebody is immoral, talking about morality earlier.
It's a hard line, you know, you can't support
you know, non-consensual activity of any kind.
And that's something we really got to work for.
Do you have anybody that's ever tried to do things
against your like your comfort zone or your boundaries?
Oh yeah, I had two guys who pushed me to do it
like all bare and I did and I had to like literally
kick them out of my apartment because I'm like, you know
what, I'm not gonna do it and I'm not comfortable with it.
So yeah, but then, yeah, that's about it.
I didn't have like super crazy incident.
Well, it was like pushed out of my comfort zone.
I actually felt more pressured when doing anything
when I was before I became an escort.
So yeah.
So when you, I understand a lot of the dynamics
of that kind of transaction is a power play.
Who holds the power in this situation?
You or the client?
Me, yeah, because they're, they're paying me for my time.
And if I'm not comfortable, I can take their money
keep their money and kick them out.
And then because I get to decide what to do
because I get to decide what is comfortable and yeah,
like they booked with me so I can do whatever I want
pretty much, but you know, I try to be nice to everybody
and they're nice back.
You give what you get what you give, right?
Yes, yes, exactly.
Yeah, even if they're rude
I'm still like taking the high road and smile.
And I'm not like, yeah, now book with them again.
So yeah.
Do you have somebody that manages your booking
or do you do it all yourself?
Nope, I do it all by myself.
In the future, I probably will hire somebody to,
you know, to take care of emails, to take care of bookings
because I know a lot of girls do have assistance
and yeah, depends on her crazy schedule.
Yeah, but I like to do everything by myself
because otherwise I have to pay them
and I don't feel like doing that yet.
So yeah.
You mentioned your friend that you started doing this with
he was also your driver.
Yeah.
What was that relationship like?
How long did he last working with him?
What was going on with that?
So, yeah, no, he's great.
He's a nice guy.
And let's see, he took care of the texts
he took care of emails and he took 40%
but he didn't do like proper work.
Like he didn't screen clients.
He didn't book the hotels I did.
Yeah, like he didn't really do a whole lot of work
but you know, we still talk and I,
it was a mutual decision to like, look, this is not working.
Yeah.
Let's see, and that relationship lasted for like
three months, I would say
but I've been doing this for seven months.
So.
What is the difference between doing this and sugaring?
Cause I know you've had some experience sugaring before
but is this the same thing or is this something different?
No.
So having a sugar daddy is like
getting paid a certain sum per week.
And you can have sex as many times as you want to
and potentially go on dates
but and you have to rely on that person
whether escorting is like you're your own person.
You can, you know, screw whoever you wanted
and have sex with anybody while getting paid more.
And whether like with sugar daddy, it's
most of the time it's one person
but you can have like four sugar daddies
from what I've heard, but yeah.
Okay.
Do you, have you ever had any,
have you had any experience working with,
you mentioned fetishes, a few fetishes earlier
and like some guys that did cross dressing and stuff.
Have you ever gotten into actually BDSM work?
No, not yet.
I want to, I think it's, it would be fun.
Okay.
Do you, have you done any of that?
Well, let me ask you another question.
This is the, we're getting close to an hour here.
What's the biggest difference between your personal
experiences versus your professional experiences
when it comes to sex?
What's the difference?
Oh, that's a good question.
Cause with my professional life, it's like a routine
whether with personal life, it's very unexpected.
I would say the sex thing.
Yeah. Cause like the clients, they know where they're going.
They know what they're going to do.
I'm going to like give them a drink and then we're going to
but then with personal life, it's, you know,
we might watch a movie or we might just cuddle
and might have sex.
It's always unexpected.
Okay.
Is there anything you'd like to summarize
with this particular interview?
Yes.
Basically, I just want people to be more accepting,
to be open-minded about this kind of work and
it's not as bad as it seems.
And it's not as bad as the media makes it
because media lies about all kinds of stuff,
especially sex work.
All right.
Well, I am Mr. Lane and this is the lovely Alexa Max
with three X's in her name to give you an idea
of what she's about.
I'm just kidding.
But that's good.
You have three X's here, Alexa Max.