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Coming to the meeting tomorrow, Chet and Gary discuss March and April's upcoming meetings.

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Let's go!

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Good morning Chet.

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How are you today?

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I'm doing good Gary.

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How are you doing today?

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Fantastic.

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So this is our, can you believe this is our 43rd podcast.

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It's unbelievable.

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Only 43?

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Only 43.

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And seven more we get to celebrate our 50th anniversary or whatever.

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Our series or whatever.

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So what we're going to talk about today, we're going to talk maybe a little bit about the

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meeting tomorrow.

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And if we do, then it's going to cause me to publish this today.

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That's true.

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Yes, I hadn't thought about that.

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But okay, yes.

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Yeah, I thought that one of the things that we could kind of mention to people is why

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we're kind of taking the approach that we're taking with these last couple of meetings.

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And what I've been looking at is the fact that we went to the table exercises and having

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people get more involved in it.

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But the other side of it is that I think that people need to get to the point where they

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can help themselves where they don't need to have somebody that they have to wait around

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for that person to be available like coming in for our help labs here or try to get somebody

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on the phone to help them.

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That's getting harder and harder and harder all the time.

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So I think we need to build up some skills and people so they understand things.

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The only way I can think to do that is to give them some background and get them over

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the fear of touching the device.

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So that's a lot of what's going on, trying to get the right information in the right

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place so they can find it or find out where information is.

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So if they do have to call somebody and they ask them, well, what model phone do you have?

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They know where the model number is.

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That kind of information.

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Give them some avenues to explore that they can solve their problem, whether it be Google

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searches or YouTube or whatever.

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Yeah, a lot of different things.

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And then for the April meeting, what I'm thinking about there is looking at understanding more

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effective or more completely the user interface and how the user interface actually tells

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you what you need to do and how to do it.

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It's a roadmap.

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You just have to understand it's a roadmap and learn to read the symbols on the roadmap.

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And based on that, then you can go ahead and do things.

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So that's what I'm looking at on the April meeting is to say, let's spend some more

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time looking at the user interface and understanding how to actually interact with the device.

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And again, getting you closer to the point where you feel comfortable touching things

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and trying things and recognizing when you did something wrong or when there's something

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didn't work the way you want.

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So that's kind of what the goal on all of these things are.

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And I assume that you'll have exercises to guide them through those processes.

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Guide them through those kind of things and give them some playtime to actually try them.

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And one of the other things that's going on is, and I just was watching a YouTube video

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over the weekend talking about this, that there are some concerns about cybersecurity

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and the fact that two-factor authentication and passwords and so forth are not as secure

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as they used to be.

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But there are ways around all of this, and we're seeing a move toward using external

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devices that you plug into your phone or that you use the near field communication NFC stuff

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for communicating with these little devices that contain a code that acts as an authorization

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as opposed to fingerprints and those kind of things.

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Trying to get around some of the cyber issues and so forth.

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We're going to talk about one thing in the meeting tomorrow that has a very high potential

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risk to it.

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Luckily it's not a big thing at the moment, but I'm concerned now that the news is out

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about it that it's going to become a bigger thing that it is now.

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That's the way it usually is.

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They get a lot of copycats.

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Let me ask you this.

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Now, with this going on, is it a good time to maybe our members to be looking into like

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VPNs?

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I don't know whether a VPN is going to solve any of this.

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What a VPN does is it gives you an encrypted channel between your device and the server.

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That server then acts as you and send the messages out over the rest of the internet.

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There are some benefits to encrypting that way, but then when you look at Apple, Apple

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tries to encrypt everything in transmission anyway.

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Apple is about as secure as it can be, Apple stores information, encrypted.

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Most of your information that's on iCloud, for example, is all encrypted.

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I don't know if a VPN buys us a lot or not.

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My experience with VPNs when I've tried them in the past is they slow you down.

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I never have used one, but I've looked into it before.

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If you do, because my assumption is that probably 90% of the hacking activity is affected by

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somebody clicking on a link they shouldn't have clicked on.

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So if you've got a VPN, if you still click on that link.

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You got the same problem.

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It hasn't protected you.

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The only thing a VPN would protect you from is somebody listening on the circuit.

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So if you're at the airport or public library and you're trying to access your financial

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data, maybe a VPN would help.

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So saying that, then the best way that we can protect ourselves is to watch what we're

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doing.

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Yes.

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Clicking links or reading, you know, with these scam text and reacting to what they

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want you to do.

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Don't fall for phishing.

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Right.

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And the best policy for that is if you believe that there's an issue, just don't do anything.

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Don't do it.

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Call the institution or whoever the text is from.

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Just call them directly and find out if there is a problem with your account or whatever.

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Yeah.

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One of the things to think about is that if a company is notifying you there's a problem

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with your account, they shouldn't be asking you for your account number, your name, your

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address or anything else.

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They have all that.

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Right.

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So if they're asking you for any of that information, something's wrong.

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Now, I had an instance just within the last few days.

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A gentleman called me about these COVID home test kits and he was telling me that Medicare

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paid for it and that he saw that I've got them in the past and wanted to know if I

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want to continue getting these test kits for your charge.

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And I said, well, sure, you can send me one.

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He said, well, okay, let me just verify your address.

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And then he verified my address and he asked me my age and then I started thinking, this

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guy's probably going to keep going.

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So I said, well, that's all you need.

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And so just send me my kit.

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And he said, well, wait a minute.

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Wait a minute.

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He said, we need some more information.

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I thought, no, you don't need any information.

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You don't need any more information.

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That's right.

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If you want to send me a kit, send me that address.

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And if you don't, that's fine too.

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So I hung up, immediately called me back.

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So you know they were fishing.

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So you have to be careful on just something that simple.

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They know that Medicare pays for these kits to be sent out and they act upon that.

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And I've always said, if these people put as much effort and diligence into hacking

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people and do it for good, we'd have all kinds of, we wouldn't maybe have the software

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problem.

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That's right.

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We wouldn't have the software problem we have.

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Yeah, it just is.

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I find it very frustrating that we don't seem to be able to have people do things legally

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and socially and in a socially acceptable fashion.

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And we don't seem to be able to punish people who do things that we are not happy with.

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You know, we have this social, oh, I feel sorry for them, kind of attitude.

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But anyway, that's a path we probably don't need to go down.

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Yeah, they play it in their sense, I'm pretty sure.

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Well this is going to be kind of a short one today.

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We have a meeting tomorrow.

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Just want to remind everybody about the meeting tomorrow.

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That's the 21st in the Veterans Theater.

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Every time, 12 to 2, we're going to be doing table exercises again.

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And on that note, I just want to implore that we have some more table leaders come forward

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because we can never have enough table leaders.

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That's right.

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And it's not that tough a job.

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As you see, the more you go through these exercises, the more clear it's going to become.

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It's not that difficult to do.

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We've got, let's see, this is March meeting.

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We'll have April and May and then we take our break.

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We take summer break.

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So hopefully this goes well and we continue to have this type of meeting environment.

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And I think this is the best environment for our members to actually have some hands-on

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learning.

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Right.

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And I think as we get some more experienced table leaders and get used to this environment

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a little bit more, we might even be a little bit more flexible with how those table operations

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work.

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And we'll have all the tables kind of working on the same thing.

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And we might get to the point where they can have different groups trying different things.

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And as I put my message last night, be sure to bring your membership card when you check

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in.

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And if possible, set it to the same table that you set at last meeting with the same table

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leader.

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I know there might be a few tables short of table leaders, but somebody will take the

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table leader, I'm sure, and it all works out.

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It always has.

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So with that chat, I think we're just going to call it a day.

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And we'll enjoy all this scenery from the penthouse here at the 2020 Club.

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They cleaned the glass.

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It's really fantastic.

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Oh, is that what it is?

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That's what it is.

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They cleaned the glass.

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Oh, okay.

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Even that are my cataracts that are just working.

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Oh, there you go.

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So we'll see you next time.

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And thank you for listening.

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We're just going to call it a day.

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Have a great day.

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All right, Gary, you too.