1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,080 him have thrilled the church and encouraged the church for the last 400 years since they 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:12,360 came from the pin of Martin Luther. It is good to remind ourselves that the truth abides, 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:19,300 no thanks to earthly powers, but the truth abides in victory. 4 00:00:19,300 --> 00:00:27,440 Today I'm beginning a short series of messages that I have entitled, Survival a Reality Series. 5 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:37,800 Obviously I'm playing off of one of the shows that you can watch on television as I use that title, 6 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:45,000 but I want to talk about realities that are far more important than those that you see on the 7 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:57,040 television. It is the survival of God's work among us. I acknowledge up front that my perspectives 8 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:08,200 are the perspectives of one. I do not have 20-20 vision, but what I will share with you today 9 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:17,080 and in the coming few weeks has been bathed in a lot of prayer. What I want to speak about has 10 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:25,360 been stirring in my heart for some time. What I will say to you might be called by some the 11 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:32,680 state of the church. Many churches at the beginning of the year have a message or several messages 12 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:40,840 dealing with the state of the church. And that's what I want to share with you. While my perspectives 13 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:47,440 are certainly my own, I believe that I have something of the mind of Christ as I talk about 14 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:58,720 these things. It is important for us to face reality. Ronald Heifetz, who is one of the 15 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:05,760 world's leading voices on leadership, who also directs the Leadership Education Project at 16 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:13,280 Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government, has a course at Harvard entitled 17 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:20,400 Exercising Leadership. It is a wildly popular course for the students. And in the course, 18 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:26,640 he talks about the role of a leader in today's world. Heifetz says the role of a leader is 19 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:34,560 changing. He says the new role is to, and I quote him, to help people face reality and 20 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:46,360 immobilize them to make change. And making change, he says, is painful. Why is that? Well, it goes 21 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:51,480 on to explain that people are afraid that they will lose something that's worthwhile. They're 22 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:57,800 afraid that they're going to have to give up something that they're comfortable with. Mustering 23 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:04,760 the courage to interrogate reality is a central function of a leader. And that requires the 24 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:14,840 courage to face three realities at once. First, what values do we stand for? And are there 25 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:25,440 gaps between those values and how we actually behave? Second, what are the skills and talents 26 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:34,240 of our company? Or in our case, we'd say our church. And are there gaps between those resources 27 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:42,720 and what the market demands, or we would say, our resources and what the opportunities are? 28 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:48,920 And third, he says, the third reality we need to confront is what opportunities does the 29 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:56,720 future hold? And are there gaps between those opportunities and our ability to capitalize 30 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:03,960 on them? I'm intrigued by the fact that he says that the role of leadership in a church 31 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:15,760 is to help all of us face reality. Now, sometimes reality is sheer exuberance. It is a kick. 32 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:26,000 And sometimes reality is a kick in the pants. I can wake up and open the curtains and see, 33 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:32,320 yes, I'm really here. I'm in this vacation paradise that I've longed to come to. Reality 34 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:41,840 has arrived and it's exuberance. Or I can wake up and recall why I cried myself to sleep 35 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:52,520 last night and want to go back to sleep because reality hits so hard. A telephone call, a 36 00:04:52,520 --> 00:05:01,080 doctor's report, a note from your spouse, a financial report that said that chapter 37 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:08,360 11 may be the only way out. Reality can lift our soul to heaven or it can take it to the 38 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:21,320 depths of hell. But if we don't face reality, we're living in a state of madness because 39 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:32,840 that's what insanity is. It's conducting yourself in a world of unreality. One reaction to reality 40 00:05:32,840 --> 00:05:40,160 is to ignore it. But that doesn't work for very long. Another reaction is to avoid it 41 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:47,360 by living in a fantasy world that you create. That's why people with dangerous diseases 42 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:55,040 ignore the symptoms sometimes thinking that they're not real or they'll go away. They 43 00:05:55,040 --> 00:06:05,240 find a lump but, oh, it's nothing. Or they see blood and say, that's nothing unusual. 44 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:11,360 I'll just forget about it. The reality of the symptom is too hard for them to face and 45 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:16,000 so they ignore it. Or they live in a fantasy that this didn't really happen. I didn't 46 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:25,640 really feel that. They refused to go to the doctor to live in denial of reality as a serious 47 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:33,480 mental disorder. And so it is important for us as the people of God to face reality. Reality 48 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:43,360 never goes away because reality is the truth. And God is a God of truth. He is a God of 49 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:50,840 reality and He calls us to live in truth and in reality. Part of my responsibility as the 50 00:06:50,840 --> 00:06:56,320 pastor of this church is to articulate a vision and a direction for the Lascaris Christian 51 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:04,880 Church. That is where we want to be headed in the next period of years. I want that vision 52 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:11,800 and I'm sure you do as well to be firmly grounded in reality and in truth. Not pieced 53 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:22,000 together on some sort of fantasy that we have. When we have a vision that is grounded on 54 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:31,560 reality, then we can respond and act in faith. And God, who is the ultimate reality, will 55 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:44,360 bless that vision. But reality is not easy. It is not easy to see. Michael Crichton, who 56 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:51,120 is a well-known author, as you probably know, his novels include Jurassic Park, The Andromeda 57 00:07:51,120 --> 00:08:02,320 Strain, most recently The State of Fear, Michael Crichton, who is also the creator of the television 58 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:10,040 program ER, who is a famous film director and writer, has a very interesting statement 59 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:18,240 that he made as part of a speech to the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco a couple of years ago. 60 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:26,280 The title of the speech was Environmentalism as Religion. I wish I had time to read you 61 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:33,800 the speech. You can find it online. But he begins his speech this way. I've been asked 62 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:41,000 to talk about what I consider the most important challenge facing mankind. And I have a fundamental 63 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:48,760 answer. The greatest challenge facing mankind is the challenge of distinguishing reality 64 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:59,080 from fantasy, truth from propaganda. Perceiving the truth has always been a challenge to mankind, 65 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:06,080 but in the information age, or as I think of it, the disinformation age, he says, it 66 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:13,440 takes on a special urgency and importance. Think of that. Here's a man who by no means 67 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:19,840 is a professing Christian. And yet he says the most pressing challenge facing mankind 68 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:31,720 today is the ability to distinguish between reality and fantasy, truth from propaganda. 69 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:36,600 It's hard to face reality. Some of us are like that person who falls out of the tenth 70 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:42,280 floor of a building. And as that person passes each floor of the building, he says, I'm still 71 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:50,960 doing fine. I'm still doing fine. But eventually reality is going to catch up. See Everett 72 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:57,960 Koop, former U.S. surgeon general, said, reality is the leading cause of stress among those 73 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:06,360 who are in touch with reality. He's absolutely right. Another statement about reality I found 74 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:15,400 from Gerald and Sandra Tanner, who lead the Utah Lighthouse mission in their book entitled 75 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:22,320 The Changing World of Mormonism. They say reality is sometimes very hard to face. For 76 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:29,080 instance, on July 26, 1969, the Salt Lake Tribune reported that members of the International 77 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:36,000 Flat Earth Research Society still do not believe the Earth is round. They feel that the moon 78 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:42,240 landing was a part of a great deception by NASA and that the astronauts are hypnotized 79 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:48,800 into believing they go into space. And so we need to pray for General Duke as he comes, 80 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:57,280 or he won't be deceived about his trip to the moon, I suppose. It reminds me of the 81 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:03,240 current President of Iran, who is suggesting that there be a probe into whether or not 82 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:10,440 the Holocaust really happened, because he denies that it was such a thing. And there 83 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:18,280 are some people in our world who believe that sort of fantasy. The most pressing challenge, 84 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:30,080 humanity faces, is to distinguish between what is true and what is false. Perhaps you're 85 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:39,040 familiar with the concept of SWAT, SWOT. It's an acronym, and it stands for a way of analyzing 86 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:48,120 an organization, or a church, or a family, or one's own life. It stands for strengths, 87 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:57,400 weaknesses, opportunities, and threats. Every organization has all four. And it's true about 88 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:06,360 Los Gatos Christian Church. Los Gatos Christian Church has some wonderful strengths. We have 89 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:12,840 many hardworking people in our church. We have the opportunity next Saturday night to 90 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:18,880 say thank you to so many who volunteer in our church. As we set out invitations to people 91 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:26,440 who volunteer in ministry on a regular basis, we had over 500 names on the list, a variety 92 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:32,800 of ministries, many different roles, and we're grateful that the 200-plus are coming next 93 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:39,160 Saturday night so we can say thank you. We have many hardworking people. This is a welcoming 94 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:47,680 place. You have made it so. You have, if I may say so, changed our reputation from a 95 00:12:47,680 --> 00:12:54,160 church that was rather closed and snobbish to a church that is now known as one that 96 00:12:54,160 --> 00:13:01,440 welcomes people who come here. We hear that repeatedly from people. This is a church that 97 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:07,440 has a strong doctrinal position. And we are concerned about doctrinal purity. We maintain 98 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:16,120 that as closely as God enables us. We have within our church some wonderful groups of 99 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:23,520 fellowship, close-knit groups. It is the close-knitness of some of those groups that has enabled 100 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:30,920 this church to continue through some difficult years. It's a wonderful strength that we have. 101 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:40,200 We have a terrific music ministry, if I may say so. My heart is blessed when I am exposed 102 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:46,840 to what the musicians of our church are doing under our leadership. Thank you, Steve, and 103 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:53,200 all of you who are a part of our creative arts and music ministry. You bless me. We have 104 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,560 a wonderful strength in our student ministry. And I can go down the line with a number of 105 00:13:57,560 --> 00:14:02,120 our ministries and say thank God for this. I thank God for the opportunities we have 106 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:08,320 as a church. I think, for example, of the kids' clubs that we have plugged into here 107 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:13,760 in the last couple of years, these release time clubs, in essence, for public school 108 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:20,760 children in elementary schools. It's marvelous to see what God is doing through those of 109 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:27,040 you who volunteer to lead those week after week. The sports ministry of our church, we 110 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:37,320 currently have over 300 children in our basketball ministry representing lots of families. And 111 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:43,360 I am told that at least a third of those families are unchurched families. What a tremendous 112 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:51,960 opportunity that gives to us to reach them. Then I think of our school. Through the school, 113 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:58,800 where normally you see the student body taper off a little bit because of attrition, as 114 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:05,640 families move or families can no longer afford tuition or whatever. This year we have seen 115 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:14,040 just the opposite. Our school continues to grow in population. Now, what, 450, I believe, 116 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:19,340 students in junior kindergarten through eighth grade who come to our campus here at Los 117 00:15:19,340 --> 00:15:26,680 Gatos Christian Church. What an amazing opportunity that presents to us. We have weaknesses of 118 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:35,680 church as well, and we face certain threats to our continued existence. One of the fears 119 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:41,120 that I have, very frankly, is that some of us are living in fantasy when it comes to 120 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:48,200 our church, however. One sincere member said to me shortly after I arrived here to be the 121 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:57,080 pastor several years ago, this church is now going to grow quickly, he said. Now we have 122 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:03,360 somebody who teaches the Bible again, we have a music ministry with a healing that God is 123 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:09,400 going to do. This church is going to grow quickly. People who have left, he said, will 124 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:17,280 now want to return when they see that the church has stabilized. That was a sincere statement 125 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:28,640 made to me, but it was fantasy. Another said to me, if only we would start a Sunday night 126 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:37,280 service, that would be the key, because I can remember a very sincere statement. We 127 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:46,640 tried a Sunday night service for a year. It was fantasy. It simply doesn't fit with 128 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:54,640 today's culture. The fantasy that concerns me today, however, is the one that says, Lost 129 00:16:54,640 --> 00:17:04,480 Gaddus Christian Church will always be here. While the music is great, I like the preaching. 130 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:10,720 We've become a friendly congregation. Why the future of this church is absolutely secured. 131 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:17,960 It is assured that Lost Gaddus Christian Church will always be ministering in this community. 132 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:26,200 And I want to say to you that that is a fantasy. The future of Lost Gaddus Christian Church 133 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:37,280 is clouded by the presence of cultural toxins in its people. That's you and me. Now the 134 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:43,640 message I'm going to give as a part of this series, this message could be preached in 135 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:49,400 almost every church in America. So please don't think that I'm picking on you and saying 136 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:55,840 that somehow we as a church are unique among the churches. No, no. What I want to talk 137 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,920 about could be preached from the pulpits of many churches, but it does need to be preached 138 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:09,640 from this pulpit because you see the church of Jesus Christ is polluted and defiled by 139 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:19,080 a deadly mixture of toxic values and ideas that come into our presence through the popular 140 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:29,600 culture. Local churches have faced similar threats to their existence throughout the 141 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:40,240 centuries. It was true in the very first century of the church as much as it is today. That 142 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:46,120 is why Paul wrote in Colossians chapter 2 in verse 8. This is going to be the key verse 143 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:52,080 I'm springing from this morning. Read it with me please. Colossians 2, 8. It's there on 144 00:18:52,080 --> 00:19:00,600 the screen. See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy 145 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:10,600 which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ. 146 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:16,920 Paul is writing this only 25 years after Jesus had died, been risen again, been raised again 147 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:23,440 and ascended back to heaven. He is saying to the followers of Jesus in the city of Colossi, 148 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:34,840 beware, beware because there are ideas, there are ways of thinking, there are values spun 149 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:43,880 out there by the evil one in the culture of the world which are hollow and deceptive, 150 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:54,760 there are fantasy. These things he says depend upon human tradition and the basic principles 151 00:19:54,760 --> 00:20:05,240 of this world which is a difficult phrase probably referring to the work of demonic 152 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:14,680 elements spinning out constantly new thoughts and new ideas to trick people and ensnare 153 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:25,040 them. The basic principles he says of this world, beware lest you be taken captive, he 154 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:35,040 says by these things. The fact that an apostle uttered that warning did not stop the problem. 155 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:43,560 A few decades later Jesus met with John in the Isle of Patmos and he said, John I want 156 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:51,320 you to write some things, I want you to write the things that you see. And he is talking 157 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:56,680 there about what he saw of Jesus himself in Revelation chapter 1, John tells us what he 158 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:04,400 saw on the Isle of Patmos. It brings you to your face in worship. He said, John secondly 159 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:11,920 I want you to write about the things that are and third the things that will be after 160 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:19,040 these things. Interesting, isn't it? John I want you to write about the things that 161 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:36,240 are and then Jesus begins to dictate to John seven letters to seven churches in Asia Minor 162 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:50,080 as Jesus wants to tell them reality. He wants to tell them things as they really are, not 163 00:21:50,080 --> 00:22:02,000 what they imagined them to be, not what they wished they were, nor what they used to be, 164 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:17,080 but the things that are. And each church received an individual letter. Ten times in those seven 165 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:31,000 letters Jesus says to them, I know, I know. Now you and I know a little bit of the things 166 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:41,600 that are, but we're so easily caught up, aren't we, in things that may or may not be true. 167 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:54,320 But when Jesus says, I know, he knows. He's not missing anything. No one's pulling the 168 00:22:54,320 --> 00:23:08,000 wool over Jesus eyes. He's not living in a fantasy world. He says, I know. He says, I 169 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:20,320 know your strengths. He says, you're hardworking. You're persevering in a pagan culture. He 170 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:29,160 says to another church, you have suffered courageously. He says you have faith and love. 171 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:38,480 He outlines their strengths. But then he talks about their weaknesses. He talks about the 172 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:47,740 threats. He said to one church, despite all of these good things happening, you have lost 173 00:23:47,740 --> 00:23:59,400 the core. You have forsaken your first love, your passionate, intimate love for me. He 174 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:10,840 says to another church, you have tolerated immorality and you have embraced false ideas. 175 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:17,720 To another church, he says, you have a reputation of being alive. But the reality is, he says, 176 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:26,400 you're dead. To another one, he says, you're lukewarm. Oh, I know, you think of yourselves 177 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:32,080 as rich and without need. But he says, the reality is, you are rectified and pitiful 178 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:43,360 and poor and blind and naked. The Son of God gave a SWAT analysis to those seven churches. 179 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:52,120 And when he did that, he was not speaking as a meat inspector. He was not analyzing 180 00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:58,440 them as some quality control manager of an assembly line. No, no. He was speaking to 181 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:13,440 each of those churches as their heartbroken lover and their exalted judge. Whatever we 182 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:22,520 may think of ourselves, what we really need is to get Jesus' perspective on reality. 183 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:34,200 And to an extent that is absolutely alarming, we have succumbed to the diseased values 184 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:51,160 in our culture. And the future of Lasgadis Christian Church is by no means certain. And 185 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:58,280 at that point, I'm going to close the message this morning. Because I want to have ample 186 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:09,200 time to deal with what I see the toxins to be. My introduction to this series this morning 187 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:19,480 is intended simply to get your attention and to plead with you to join me on this journey 188 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:27,640 that we may be able to see through Jesus' eyes the truth about us. You see, when we 189 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,120 talk about the future of the church, we're not talking about the future merely of an 190 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:41,040 institution or an organization. We're talking about us because we're the church. I invite 191 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:47,360 you to pray with me. I invite you to speak the Lord's face with me, to call out to the 192 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:57,360 Lord, asking that in these coming weeks, He will help us to see reality. The most important 193 00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:06,160 thing facing humanity today is to see the difference between reality and fantasy. That 194 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:11,680 is not just true out there in the world. It is true in the Lord's church too. And Jesus 195 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:17,560 has something He wants to say to the lost goddess Christian church. He wants to say 196 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:25,840 it to you and to me. And He does not say it because He's angry, because He wants to really 197 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:33,200 put it on the spot. He says it because His heart is broken and because He wants us to 198 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:43,560 enjoy Him and He wants us to experience Him fully. And the toxins that we have allowed 199 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:55,160 into our lives and into our church, these toxins are affixiating us spiritually. That 200 00:27:55,160 --> 00:28:04,280 those are remedy. There is a remedy. While the future is not secured, the future is still 201 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:12,400 there. It's still possible if we will do what Jesus will tell us to do. Would you pray with 202 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:21,840 me? Father, my prayer is that you will use this brief introduction this morning to the 203 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:33,640 series, to intrigue us, perhaps even to threaten us, or to stir us in some reactions so that 204 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:40,280 we will follow through and hear what you want to say to the church. You have said, He that 205 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:48,000 has ears, let him hear what the Spirit says to the church. And so may we have ears to 206 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:55,000 hear. For Lord, we certainly call out to you and we pray that in the coming weeks you will 207 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:03,120 speak the truth to us. We do not want to live in fantasy. We want to live in reality. For 208 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:11,360 you are the God of reality. And we humble ourselves before you and we implore you shut 209 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:25,000 us away. We call out to you, heal us, deliver us, save us from the world that we may love 210 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:42,560 you. Love you, it's the same way. In Jesus' name, amen.