1
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,720
Unless my eyes are failing me, I won't take any comments on that.

2
00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,320
I think I see R. Dickinson back there.

3
00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:13,880
Art, it's good to have you back after several weeks of traveling representing the Evangelical

4
00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,360
Alliance mission in the Far East.

5
00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:21,520
I thought of you when the plane went over the edge of the runway in Hong Kong this week.

6
00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:26,120
I'm glad you made it out of there.

7
00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:31,040
Next to this, Chapter 13 is the focus of our message today and, as it turns out, next week

8
00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:37,520
as well.

9
00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,880
Having prepared the message earlier on in the week, God has laid some additional things

10
00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,840
on my heart that I want to share with you this morning, so we're going to take a couple

11
00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:52,280
of weeks to look at the subject today, which is provisions for the pilgrimage.

12
00:00:52,280 --> 00:01:02,760
If God were angry with America, how do you think He would express that?

13
00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:09,380
How long do you think it would take God to bring the mightiest nation in the world to

14
00:01:09,380 --> 00:01:14,200
its knees?

15
00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:22,920
In the fifteenth century before Christ, it took God only a matter of months to bring

16
00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:31,200
to its knees the world's mightiest nation in that day, Egypt, and to humble her dictator,

17
00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,200
Pharaoh.

18
00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:41,040
Through a series of ten judgments culminating with the death of the firstborn throughout

19
00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:50,040
the whole land, He brought that pagan, worldly, and proud nation to a point of brokenness

20
00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:57,200
until it was willing to obey His word, let my people go.

21
00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:04,440
On that night of the final plague, we noted last week that the firstborn of the Jews did

22
00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:15,000
not die if the family had believed God's promise and had trustingly sacrificed the

23
00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,400
Passover lamb.

24
00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:25,080
For the blood of that lamb having been applied on the door as God commanded, that home was

25
00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,760
then spared from the judgment of death.

26
00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:38,560
The killed lamb was the substitute who died in place of the firstborn.

27
00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:47,080
And as we studied last week, that is a beautiful, dramatic, and prophetic picture of the death

28
00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,280
of Christ, the Lamb of God.

29
00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:57,320
For His death on the cross was in the place of the sinner, and His death provides for

30
00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:06,480
the sinner an escape if he will believe on the Christ who died for Him and rose again.

31
00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:14,320
The blood of Christ provides protection from deserved judgment of eternal damnation and

32
00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,880
death.

33
00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:26,840
Those protected by Him are guaranteed safety, and those not protected by His death face

34
00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,000
guaranteed punishment.

35
00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,320
It's that clear.

36
00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:41,440
That night, the resident population of Egypt was further reduced by the departure of some

37
00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:49,800
two million people as the Israelites left Ramesses and journeyed as a large mass of

38
00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,840
people toward the southeast.

39
00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:59,920
Let's read about that in Exodus, backing up first at chapter 12 and verse 37.

40
00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:06,960
The sons of Israel journeyed from Ramesses to Sukkoth, about 600,000 men on foot, aside

41
00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,240
from children, and I might add women.

42
00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,280
So if you add the children of women with the 600,000 men, you'd come up with about two

43
00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,760
million people, most probably.

44
00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:23,560
And a mixed multitude also went up with them, along with flocks and herds, a very large

45
00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,520
number of livestock.

46
00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,760
They baked the dough which they had brought out of Egypt into cakes of unleavened bread,

47
00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,200
for it had not become leavened since they were driven out of Egypt and could not delay

48
00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,640
nor had they prepared any provisions for themselves.

49
00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:46,840
The time that the sons of Israel lived in Egypt was 430 years, and it came about at

50
00:04:46,840 --> 00:04:52,920
the end of 430 years to the very day that all the hosts of the Lord went out from the

51
00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:53,920
land of Egypt.

52
00:04:53,920 --> 00:05:02,280
That is, 430 years from the time that Jacob went down to Egypt, being provided for, as

53
00:05:02,280 --> 00:05:06,760
you recall, by his son Joseph, whom God had sent before him.

54
00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:14,080
It goes on to say, it is a night, this night of the Passover, to be observed for the Lord

55
00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,560
for having brought them out from the land of Egypt.

56
00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:23,400
This night is for the Lord to be observed by all the sons of Israel throughout their

57
00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,040
generations.

58
00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,600
You will notice that accompanying the two million Israelites was a mixed multitude,

59
00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,040
it says in verse 38.

60
00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:43,000
These were other Semitic peoples, not Jews, not sons of Jacob, but Semites, and there

61
00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,840
were also probably some Egyptians who left with them.

62
00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:55,480
This mixed multitude later caused problems by bringing division to the nation of Israel.

63
00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:02,040
They attached themselves to this migration or this movement, but they did not share the

64
00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:07,420
calling or the vision that God had given to Israelites.

65
00:06:07,420 --> 00:06:14,000
Throughout their time as a part of this people, they remained on the fringe, they wanted to

66
00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:19,880
share in the blessings of getting away from Egypt, but they did not want to commit themselves

67
00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:27,640
to the vision that God had given the nation of a promised land.

68
00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:35,560
In the release, God brought his people out of bondage and into freedom, but that was

69
00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,080
not the end of their problems or their trials.

70
00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:46,800
Indeed, they still had much to learn about God, and most of what there is to learn about

71
00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:53,200
God cannot be learned in seminary or in a Bible study.

72
00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:59,680
It's fine to learn the facts there, and that's where we begin, but we learn to know

73
00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:08,200
God in the crucible of our life's experiences.

74
00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:13,440
And so God is now about to take the people of Israel through experiences to teach them

75
00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,580
of himself.

76
00:07:16,580 --> 00:07:18,960
He has told them something about himself.

77
00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:26,280
He is Yahweh, the self-existent one who is able to provide for their needs, but now they

78
00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,480
must learn that in their own experience.

79
00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:38,080
You see, redemption is only the beginning of God's dealings with his own, just the

80
00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,360
first step.

81
00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:46,360
Charles Swindoll has said, the conversion of the soul is the miracle of the moment,

82
00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:51,760
but the making of a saint requires a lifetime.

83
00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:56,360
As we look in these next chapters at what God is doing with Israel, he is attempting

84
00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,560
to make a nation of saints.

85
00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:04,820
They have been redeemed by the blood of the Passover Lamb, but they have very much to

86
00:08:04,820 --> 00:08:07,400
learn of him.

87
00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:13,560
They were at this point beginning a long pilgrimage toward the promised land, and their faithful

88
00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:22,600
covenant-keeping Yahweh, the Lord, Jehovah, would provide for them along the way.

89
00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:27,880
The lesson that I want us to see primarily is this, that the Lord provides yet today

90
00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:35,120
for his own as we face our pilgrimage in this world.

91
00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:40,160
It seems to me that pilgrims have several basic needs.

92
00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:50,000
They would include encouragement, protection, guidance, and certain reminders.

93
00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:55,880
Pilgrims need encouragement for their trials, because trials are a part of the experience

94
00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,680
of every alien and pilgrim in the land.

95
00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:05,620
Pilgrims need protection from their enemies, for they have them.

96
00:09:05,620 --> 00:09:11,120
Pilgrims need guidance for their way, because they are not at home.

97
00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,880
That's why they're called pilgrims.

98
00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:21,400
And pilgrims need reminders for their forgetfulness, because pilgrims, like all humans, tend to

99
00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,200
be forgetful.

100
00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:30,160
I want you to notice that God provides all four of these for the people of Israel, and

101
00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:36,120
I hope that we'll learn as well that God provides them for us too.

102
00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:42,200
First of all, notice with me that God gave them His promise to encourage them.

103
00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:49,160
And now we look in chapter 13 and verse 5.

104
00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:56,760
Moses is speaking for God, and it says in verse 5, and it shall be when the Lord brings

105
00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:03,760
you to the land of the Canaanite, the Hittite, the Amorite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite,

106
00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:11,720
which He swore to your fathers to give you, a land flowing with milk and honey, that you

107
00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,560
shall observe this right in this month.

108
00:10:15,560 --> 00:10:16,560
Now verse 11.

109
00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:23,480
Now, it shall come about when the Lord brings you to the land of the Canaanite, as He swore

110
00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,800
to you and to your fathers, and gives it to you.

111
00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:34,560
I want you to notice that right up front of their pilgrimage, God here gave them again

112
00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:37,640
His promise.

113
00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:46,120
God says through Moses, through your fathers, I swore to give you the land of the Canaanite,

114
00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:52,360
a land with agricultural prosperity where all of your needs in that realm will be met.

115
00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:57,440
I swore it to them, and I swear it to you, He is saying.

116
00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:04,800
God gives them His promise to encourage them, because God knew what lay ahead.

117
00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:12,860
God knew the discouragements that would tempt them, so He reiterated His promise to them.

118
00:11:12,860 --> 00:11:18,320
He did not want them to become discouraged along the way.

119
00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:24,600
Discouragement is one of the devil's greatest tools, especially against the newly saved,

120
00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:30,880
the newly redeemed, but not just the new converts either.

121
00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:40,600
There are few diseases of the spirit which are more effective in crippling our effectiveness.

122
00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,700
Have you ever faced it?

123
00:11:43,700 --> 00:11:48,840
Have you ever faced the temptation to discouragement and yielded to it?

124
00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:56,200
Well, if anyone here would deny that, he would have to confess some other sins in his life,

125
00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,840
because all of us have faced that and have yielded to it from time to time.

126
00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:06,920
Discouragement, that cold and clammy condition of the soul, where it is perpetually cloudy

127
00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:11,960
and grisly, where no sunshine ray seems to come through.

128
00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,640
We've all been there.

129
00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,720
And for the Israelites, the first discouragement was right on schedule.

130
00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:30,040
If you look in chapter 14, you'll find the record of the children of Israel being trapped

131
00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,560
beside the Red Sea.

132
00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:40,440
And it says in verse 10, and as Pharaoh drew near, the sons of Israel looked and behold,

133
00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,580
the Egyptians were marching after them and they became very frightened.

134
00:12:44,580 --> 00:12:48,480
So the sons of Israel cried out to the Lord.

135
00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:53,680
Then they said to Moses, is it because there were no graves in Egypt that you have taken

136
00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:55,760
us away to die in the wilderness?

137
00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,160
That is biting sarcasm.

138
00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,920
For the Egyptians were famous for their graves.

139
00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,560
And now they're saying, weren't there enough graves in Egypt?

140
00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:12,920
Why have you dealt with us in this way, bringing us out of Egypt?

141
00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,800
Is this not the word that we spoke to you in Egypt?

142
00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,200
Didn't we tell you, Moses?

143
00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,320
Leave us alone that we may serve the Egyptians.

144
00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:28,440
For it would have been better for us to serve the Egyptians than to die in the wilderness.

145
00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:33,360
Now before you point your finger too hard at them, remember you might have said the

146
00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,600
same things if you had been there.

147
00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,760
For here they are, newly released from the land of Egypt, and behind them come the armies

148
00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,200
of Pharaoh.

149
00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,160
They are dismayed and discouraged.

150
00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,580
But God gave His promise to them.

151
00:13:52,580 --> 00:13:56,160
Notice in verses 13 and 14 what those promises were.

152
00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,840
Basically it was, don't be afraid.

153
00:13:58,840 --> 00:13:59,840
Stand still.

154
00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:04,840
God is going to fight for you while you keep quiet.

155
00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:09,840
The promises of God put an end to discouragement.

156
00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,960
Now we could trace that some more if we had the time this morning, but we don't.

157
00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:20,640
The answer to discouragement though is a review of the promises of God.

158
00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:27,600
For Israel it was the purpose of God to bring them to the land of promise, to Canaan.

159
00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,520
Now what about us and our discouragements?

160
00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:36,480
Are there promises that can lift us from that pit?

161
00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:41,160
Are there promises that can cause the clouds to break up and the sun to shine through?

162
00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,000
Well of course there are.

163
00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:51,560
Promises like Romans 8.28, which we're going to look at tonight in our message.

164
00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,640
Promises like 1 Thessalonians 5.24.

165
00:14:54,640 --> 00:15:00,640
All is He who called you who also will do it.

166
00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:06,320
I want you to notice that in light of the promise that God gave, Moses at least took

167
00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,720
a step of faith.

168
00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:15,820
Here in chapter 13 once more I want you to notice what he did according to verse 19.

169
00:15:15,820 --> 00:15:21,640
As they were about to leave it says, Moses took the bones of Joseph with him.

170
00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:28,280
For he had made the sons of Israel solemnly swear saying, God shall surely take care of

171
00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:33,860
you and you shall carry my bones from here with you.

172
00:15:33,860 --> 00:15:39,480
Moses took a step of faith on that day that they left because he dug up the bones of Joseph,

173
00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:47,640
now dead long centuries, and took that sarcophagus with him out of the nation of Egypt.

174
00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,320
Why?

175
00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:54,000
Because he knew that eventually they would arrive back in the promised land and he would

176
00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:59,040
be able to bury those bones where it had been promised they would be buried.

177
00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:04,800
There in the land that God swore to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

178
00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:10,080
What a great statement of faith this was on the part of Moses.

179
00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,800
All of us face temptation to discourage them from time to time.

180
00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:20,720
This morning I want to share with you a very personal note and illustration regarding that.

181
00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:26,960
I do this not easily and with some fear and trepidation, but I do it because I've been

182
00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:31,080
exhorted to share more of how I feel with the congregation.

183
00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:35,440
I want to do that though I don't find it naturally easy.

184
00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,720
I also do it with some fear and trepidation because what I'm going to say can be so easily

185
00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,280
misunderstood.

186
00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,520
When you try to say something in a matter of a few short minutes, it's easy for it

187
00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:52,600
to be imbalanced in its presentation and it's easy for it to be taken out of context by

188
00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,440
the hearers.

189
00:16:54,440 --> 00:17:00,440
So with all of that in mind and asking your pardon and your mercy, please hear me out

190
00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:05,560
as I talk about what I need to talk about this morning to be obedient to the hand of

191
00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:06,560
God upon me.

192
00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,440
And believe me if I didn't sense His hand upon me strongly to say these things, I would

193
00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,200
never say them in this forum.

194
00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:21,200
But I need to tell you that I have faced temptation to discouragement in the past three months

195
00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,080
regarding the ministry of Grace Church Roseville.

196
00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:31,160
I did not say that I had yielded to it because I don't believe that I have, but I have been

197
00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:36,160
faced with the temptation toward discouragement with the ministry in this place.

198
00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:47,200
It has been the lowest time of my seven and a half years of ministry here because of disappointments

199
00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,160
that I as your pastor have felt very keenly.

200
00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:56,240
Suddenly got very quiet in here, didn't it?

201
00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:02,760
I have spent a lot of time evaluating my ministry here over the last three months and I'm not

202
00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,120
finished doing that yet.

203
00:18:06,120 --> 00:18:10,360
You say, well pastor, what has caused the temptation to discouragement?

204
00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:11,360
Let me share it with you.

205
00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:15,840
There are a number of factors and some of you will not appreciate some of the things

206
00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:21,460
I'm going to say, but that's the way it will have to be I guess.

207
00:18:21,460 --> 00:18:27,880
First of all, I must tell you that I was personally disappointed with the results of the Sharing

208
00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,920
the Vision campaign.

209
00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:35,840
Now I've tried to be upbeat about the campaign and there are some very strong points to be

210
00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:36,840
upbeat about.

211
00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,280
And we've emphasized those.

212
00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:46,280
That I am opening up to you and being transparent this morning and I expect to receive flack

213
00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,360
for doing that.

214
00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:53,320
But I need to be honest with you and tell you that I was disappointed.

215
00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:58,520
I was encouraged by the fact that there were 300 or so who did the very best they could

216
00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:03,960
in the response and I believe that with all I'm worth.

217
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:09,280
But frankly I was disappointed that there were a goodly number who apparently, while

218
00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:18,320
coming to our church, have so little commitment to the ministry that God has called us to,

219
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:23,660
that they wouldn't or didn't return any of their commitment cards.

220
00:19:23,660 --> 00:19:29,280
Not even to pray or to serve or to give.

221
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:35,680
I'm not speaking about 10 or 20 but I'm speaking about a couple of hundred individuals

222
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:40,960
or families in our church, some of you sitting right here this morning.

223
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:46,200
Now several people have said to me, well I didn't turn my cards in but I intend to

224
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:53,920
do that and I appreciate that.

225
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:59,240
During the campaign I have heard several critical remarks.

226
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,240
I find these dismaying very frankly.

227
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,960
I've heard some say we didn't get enough information.

228
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,720
There wasn't enough communication.

229
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:16,520
And yet as I have tried to go back and as objectively as I possibly could I've tried

230
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,800
to evaluate what we did in the campaign.

231
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,400
The number of letters that went out to the congregation as a whole, the testimonies that

232
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,960
were given on Sunday night all through the month of April.

233
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:35,280
The personal remarks that were made each Sunday morning except one during the month of April.

234
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:41,360
The other brochures that were printed and given to the congregation.

235
00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:43,080
Communication is a two-way street.

236
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:51,520
There must be a speaker but there must also be a faithful hearer who will listen.

237
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:57,720
I find it difficult to accept that criticism that there wasn't enough communication because

238
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:03,880
I believe it was there had it been heated.

239
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,040
And then I've heard the criticism that it was a slick presentation.

240
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:14,920
That it was too professional.

241
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:21,720
And my response to that is had it been sloppily done and we have done some things sloppily

242
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:30,760
around here there would have been the criticism that it was slip shot and not well done.

243
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:38,040
And when something is finally done well there are at least a few who say it was too slick

244
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,520
a presentation.

245
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,640
I find that distressing frankly.

246
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:51,600
And then there were those who said there was too much of an emphasis on money.

247
00:21:51,600 --> 00:22:00,320
We seem to be talking about ministry and all of a sudden money was mentioned.

248
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:06,720
And my response to that has been multi-fold and I can only share part of it with you.

249
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:14,480
Thus you probably won't get a fully balanced response to that statement from my heart.

250
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:22,760
But I wonder if people realize that ministry takes money.

251
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:28,240
Organized ministry takes money to operate.

252
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,360
What was the point in the presentation?

253
00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:41,520
Now there were those who felt that the cluster meetings were too over-emphasized on money.

254
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,680
And if you look at that one evening as the only presentation perhaps that would be the

255
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,680
case.

256
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,960
And it was rightly so.

257
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:56,120
Because the purpose of that night was to explain what commitments were being asked for.

258
00:22:56,120 --> 00:23:00,440
And the one part of the commitment that needed the most explanation was the money aspect,

259
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,520
the financial aspect.

260
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:08,040
And thus a thorough explanation was given in that area.

261
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,520
Some of you are not comfortable with this, I'm sorry, but I have to say it to you to

262
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:16,320
be honest.

263
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:22,680
If you look at the financial emphasis in the campaign as a whole you will find that there

264
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:28,200
was absolutely less of an emphasis on money than upon any of the other things that we

265
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,320
talked about.

266
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:41,440
The negative remarks by those within our congregation that have shared those, the lack of response

267
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:48,680
from a broader group makes me wonder.

268
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:56,400
It makes me wonder why when the very same approach has been used by the same organization,

269
00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:03,760
Nehemiah Ministries, in hundreds of other churches, why it is in 99% of the others there

270
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:09,760
were no such negative remarks as those.

271
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:16,160
Why is it in our church there is that one out of a hundred that makes those kinds of

272
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,800
critical and negative remarks?

273
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,480
It makes me wonder why that's the case.

274
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:29,680
I'm curious about that and frankly I don't have the full answer to it.

275
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,240
We met a couple of weeks ago as leaders, a broad group of leaders from various aspects

276
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,760
of our church to evaluate the campaign.

277
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:46,360
It was a very positive session because the results in one perspective are very positive.

278
00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:51,080
There are a few things that we think should have been done differently, but there are

279
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,080
some.

280
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,960
I think that would be inevitable.

281
00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:02,400
I thought that our consultant gave us an interesting concept and input when he said that in their

282
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:09,840
experience with the cities here in Minnesota, the Twin Cities, that they have yet to have

283
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:16,720
what they would call a successful campaign on the St. Paul side of the Twin Cities.

284
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:22,640
When asked to elaborate upon that, he said, and I tend to agree with him, that there seems

285
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:28,120
to be a spiritual stronghold of Satan on this side of town.

286
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:32,680
Why that is the case, more than perhaps in other areas, I don't know.

287
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:39,520
But it's something we need to pray about and attack with spiritual weapons.

288
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,800
I have sensed that to be the case.

289
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:49,040
Whether there is as much church swapping on the other side of town as there is on this

290
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,040
side, I don't know.

291
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,840
I suspect there may be.

292
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,240
The fact is that the same campaign done in several other churches at the very same time

293
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:05,400
this spring in other parts of the city had very different results, very positive responses

294
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,360
in every area.

295
00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:14,760
The reason that we got into the campaign was to determine what the future ministry of Grace

296
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:23,640
Church Roseville should be, how we're going to continue to minister effectively to people.

297
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,600
The limited facilities that we have are crippling us.

298
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:34,720
Now, there are some people who disagree with that, but I must say I believe those people

299
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:41,160
have not thought it through nor evaluated the facts carefully.

300
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:47,640
We felt that as a result of the campaign, if God blessed and we were enabled to reduce

301
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,840
our indebtedness in three years, that would allow us then to move ahead.

302
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:57,120
But the results of the campaign are a bit ambivalent in that way, and frankly I'm not

303
00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:02,960
sure what the campaign tells us at the end.

304
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:08,640
I do rejoice in the fact, as I said before, that there were over 300, almost 300 people

305
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,360
who responded and did the very best that they could.

306
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:16,360
And the result of that is going to be a significant reduction in our indebtedness.

307
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:29,720
But it doesn't free us in three years and allow us to move ahead in ministry.

308
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,160
Another temptation to discouragement, frankly, that I have faced as your pastor is hearing

309
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,360
statements like these.

310
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:39,080
We talk too much about becoming a larger church.

311
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:44,680
We need just to be concerned about who's here, about being a strong church and a Bible-believing

312
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,120
church.

313
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:50,040
Now I can identify with some of those remarks.

314
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,880
I believe that we must be a strong church and a Bible-teaching church, and we cannot

315
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,000
compromise those things.

316
00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:01,280
I'm committed to the principle that if we build deep, God will take care of the breadth

317
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,640
of it.

318
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:08,440
But there seems to be an underlying thought in that statement that I'm hearing, which

319
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,520
says we're all that we want to be.

320
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,400
We don't need to reach any more people.

321
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,480
We don't need to be a larger church.

322
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:30,280
The only reason that we need to think in terms of being a larger church is so that more individuals

323
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:40,640
can be reached and helped who need the message that we have to give.

324
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,600
To some, it must seem unspiritual to think in terms of an expanding ministry, but I don't

325
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,880
believe that to be the case.

326
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,520
The larger a church becomes, the more fragile it becomes.

327
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,720
Although it does seem to some that that would be the opposite, and that would seem to be

328
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,840
the natural reasoning, but it's not the case.

329
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,720
The larger any church becomes, the more fragile it becomes.

330
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:12,200
But also, the more effective it can become in reaching not just a community, but a region.

331
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:19,960
From the very beginning of our ministry here in 1981, God gave us a vision to fully develop

332
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,120
this location.

333
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:29,060
This room was not built to be a sanctuary, except for a few years.

334
00:29:29,060 --> 00:29:34,080
Our vision has been from the beginning to expand and fully develop this location while

335
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,480
at the same time branching out.

336
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:42,040
And that continues to be my vision.

337
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:49,040
That's why I'm discouraged about hearing statements like that, or tempted toward discouragement.

338
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,120
And it changed gears a bit.

339
00:29:53,120 --> 00:30:03,760
I'm tempted toward discouragement over some matters of ministry in our church.

340
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:09,280
It seems that we have so few who are willing really to commit themselves to one of the

341
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:14,280
most critical aspects of our ministry.

342
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:22,520
I'm talking about the children's ministry.

343
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,280
I don't know how you feel about your children or your grandchildren, but I know how I feel

344
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,400
about mine.

345
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,440
I want them to have committed people working with them.

346
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:38,520
I want them to be in that kind of a church.

347
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:44,280
But we are finding in our church an attitude that says, I'll work with the children's

348
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:49,000
ministry for a quarter, then let somebody else do it.

349
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,680
Or I'll fill in until you can find somebody else.

350
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:58,520
Ladies and gentlemen, children need somebody who will be committed to them.

351
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:05,440
Not for a quarter, not until somebody else can fill in.

352
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,720
But they need adults who will pour their lives out for them.

353
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,440
And we're not there.

354
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,160
I thank God that we are there with a number of people.

355
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,920
There are some people who have actually burned themselves out in our children's ministry.

356
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,880
Some who are getting out this fall because they have been in there for five and six years

357
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,400
and they are completely exhausted and drained.

358
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:35,640
I can only respect their desire to do something else for a while.

359
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:42,000
But I wonder where the commitment is to ministry, especially to our children.

360
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:48,960
I'm tempted to discouragement about that.

361
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,160
This morning there are 20 slots open in our children's ministry.

362
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,840
I'm not talking about theory.

363
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,680
I'm saying there are 20 places where teachers and assistants and helpers need to be this

364
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,400
morning.

365
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,280
There are 16 places in Iwanta clubs that are not filled.

366
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:14,000
And yet that ministry is supposed to start in two weeks.

367
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,240
Now I realize not everyone's called to be a part of the children's ministry of Grace

368
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,760
Church or any other church.

369
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,120
We have to be gifted and called to do that.

370
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,880
But my question is where are the people that God has called and gifted to be a part of

371
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:39,360
our children's ministry and where is the commitment to that?

372
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:47,920
And I feel led of God to say one more thing regarding my own battle with discouragement.

373
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:56,200
It is the criticism that has been leveled toward by some, only some, but only some can

374
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,360
affect a whole congregation.

375
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,120
A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

376
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:07,160
The criticism leveled by some against our elders.

377
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:13,520
Men that I know to be humble.

378
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:19,640
Men that I know to be searching God for His wisdom for our church, His will.

379
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:27,640
Men who are full of integrity and honesty, but who by some are not trusted.

380
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,160
Now I recognize that that comes out of the background of some people.

381
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:38,580
I know that some have come to our church carrying a lot of emotional baggage from past situations.

382
00:33:38,580 --> 00:33:39,720
I'm sorry about that.

383
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,240
I truly am.

384
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:48,000
I grieve for some of the stories that I hear, but I beg of you, do not drop your bags in

385
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,160
this church.

386
00:33:52,160 --> 00:34:00,400
If you have brought baggage with you regarding an attitude about elder leadership in a church,

387
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,080
do not drop your bags here.

388
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,960
They're not welcome.

389
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:13,720
From the very beginning, our church has been organized in such a way that we commit to

390
00:34:13,720 --> 00:34:21,080
those men that God raises up in our church major decisions regarding its ministry and

391
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,240
its future.

392
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:25,640
We have done that because it is biblical.

393
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,980
It's biblical.

394
00:34:28,980 --> 00:34:33,760
We have not done it because there are some who desire to usurp authority in the church

395
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:41,880
or to run off with the church or to have their way in the church.

396
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:47,160
Our elders frankly have talked very frankly about the fact that there has not been good

397
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:52,120
communication between elders and congregation.

398
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,640
We have tried in the past, folks, to take some steps in that direction, and we have

399
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:03,960
been met halfway by very few people.

400
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:09,520
We have some other ideas that we're going to try this fall that I trust will be helpful

401
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,240
in opening up communication.

402
00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:16,360
All of the elders' meetings are open, including the one this Tuesday night.

403
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,040
Anyone can come and participate.

404
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:24,980
There is nothing in secret except those matters of discipline and some matters of personnel

405
00:35:24,980 --> 00:35:29,160
that for appropriateness must be in secret.

406
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,160
But there is nothing in secret.

407
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:40,440
But it has been disappointing to me to see the attitude of some people regarding the

408
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,760
kind of church leadership that from the beginning we've had here in our church.

409
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,240
We are not going to change that.

410
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:53,600
We believe it's biblical, and that's what we intend to practice here by God's grace.

411
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,160
We want to practice it well.

412
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:01,480
Undoubtedly there are some ways in which we can prove it, and communication is one.

413
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:08,160
But we're committed to that kind of leadership in our church.

414
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,600
I've been very frank with you this morning.

415
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:14,720
I've not been so frank with you in eight years.

416
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:19,800
And there may be some of you who are so offended that you're angry at me.

417
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:26,960
Perhaps you feel that you can't even come back.

418
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,240
I'm sorry if that's the case.

419
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:30,240
I truly am.

420
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:31,240
I am not angry with you.

421
00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:36,160
What I have said this morning has not been one wit and anger.

422
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,960
I am not angry.

423
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:44,200
But I am very transparently saying to you as your pastor that I have struggled more

424
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:51,160
than I have ever struggled in this ministry with disappointment and discouragement in

425
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,400
the past three months.

426
00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:01,760
And I don't feel that I've given in to discouragement for a couple of reasons.

427
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:08,440
Very practically in the first place I got some vacation time and was able to rest, which

428
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,600
I needed very badly.

429
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,640
And I thank God for the physical and emotional energy and refreshment that that has given

430
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,640
to me.

431
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,240
Had I not had that, I'm not sure that I could have stood here this morning and said

432
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:23,400
the things to you that I have, very honestly.

433
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:29,840
But I've not given in to discouragement for a second reason, and this is the key reason.

434
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:35,240
And that is because I believe the promises of God.

435
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:43,360
You see, God gives us His promises to encourage us so that when we struggle with discouragement

436
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:50,360
and the enemy comes with his full load against us, we're able to stand in that day of evil

437
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:55,360
and having done all to stand firm.

438
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,880
I am not discouraged today.

439
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,320
In fact, I must say to you in spite of what I have shared with you, and I know it's

440
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,400
been kind of heavy, that I am actually encouraged.

441
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:12,560
I'm encouraged as I look to the fall and I see the ministries that are in place and

442
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,520
about to be in place.

443
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:20,820
Some brand new ones that we've not had before, like the single parents, for example.

444
00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:24,640
I am excited because of the prospects that are before us.

445
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:31,880
I am encouraged by the promises of God that faithful is He who has called us, who also

446
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,680
will do it.

447
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:43,240
What He has called us to do, He will enable us to accomplish.

448
00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:54,240
But I struggle within with the knowledge that we as a church are at Kedish Barnea today.

449
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:58,400
We're at a point of making a decision as a congregation as to whether we as a group

450
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:04,880
are going to trust God and move ahead and get past some of these things that I've

451
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:10,560
talked about this morning and some others and go on and get on the positive and see

452
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:18,000
what God can do and believe God for big things or we're going to go the other direction.

453
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,560
We are seeing the beginning of the pilgrimage for a generation as we come to Exodus chapter

454
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,360
2, verse 13.

455
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:30,080
This generation with the exception of two people never made it to what God called them

456
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,080
to.

457
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:39,580
Because of criticism, because of gossip, because of unbelief, because of grumbling and complaining,

458
00:39:39,580 --> 00:39:47,360
they died in the wilderness under the judgment of God and never realized what God wanted

459
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,200
them to have.

460
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:59,360
I pray that all of us would stand with Caleb and Joshua and that we would be able to say

461
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:05,200
at our Kedish Barnea, Lord God, there are enemies.

462
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,840
There are temptations to discouragement.

463
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,000
There are some things that need to be better.

464
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,120
But God, you're faithful and you're able.

465
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,000
And today I will trust you.

466
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:23,720
I will be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem.

467
00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:28,720
Let's bow together.

468
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:36,840
I'm not exactly sure where this message leaves us today, except that I hope it leaves all

469
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:43,440
of us pensive and thoughtful.

470
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,640
Because I know some of you have struggled with discouragement just as I have.

471
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:54,040
Some of you leaders in our church, some of the staff and elders, some of the small church

472
00:40:54,040 --> 00:41:02,320
leaders, some of the Sunday school leaders and other leaders, I know you've struggled.

473
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:10,120
And others of us are struggling with discouragement at home or at work.

474
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:16,520
I plead with all of us today to get our eyes on the promises of God so that when the temptation

475
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:30,120
to discouragement comes, when we enter that trial, we will not fall, but go on and endure.

476
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,680
I wonder if by the uplifted hand there would be some who would join me today and say, yes,

477
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,640
I'm going through a battle with discouragement.

478
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:44,280
Now maybe you've fallen to it and you've been discouraged or maybe you haven't.

479
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,640
You're struggling with it.

480
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,320
But would you say this message has caught me at a point in my life where I need a fresh

481
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,320
view of God's promises?

482
00:41:54,320 --> 00:42:02,200
Would you lift your hand and put it down?

483
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,320
Many, many, many.

484
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:13,280
Father, I thank you this morning for the liberty that you've given to me to be very transparent

485
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,880
with the congregation.

486
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:25,560
And I pray for some who undoubtedly are reacting within to some of the things I may have shared.

487
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:31,800
And I pray that you will say to them whatever you in love would say to them.

488
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:37,760
May all of us have an ear open to your voice as we respond to what you want us to do and

489
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,280
to be.

490
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:46,960
May we be people of the Book, people who believe the promises, people who are ready to march

491
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:55,400
ahead, people who are willing to be and ready to be all that you've called us to be.

492
00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:04,200
For you're faithful, the one who has called us, and you will do it.

493
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:23,640
In Jesus' name, amen.

