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It's wonderful to have her as a guest today.

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As we think about going toward the promised land, I think about the journey that God has

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called us to be about.

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Dave, I cannot believe it's been more than two and a half years since you and I connected

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as friends a long time, but we connected in a different level.

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And that was a discussion regarding the possibility of bringing our two ministries together.

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You were over there on that side of the valley.

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I was over here on this side of the valley.

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And we began to dream about what would happen if God would bring together these two bodies

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of believers that we're a part of.

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God began to do something in our hearts.

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And over the course of a number of months, and then a year, and then two years, the churches

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came together and we saw Venture Christian Church birthed.

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And a year ago today, we began to worship together as one congregation in Jesus Christ.

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That is God's vision.

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And today we say happy birthday.

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Yeah, amen.

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Happy birthday to you.

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Happy birthday.

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You bet.

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And so we've come together.

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And inside your worship folder today, you're going to find the little blue sheet, which

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we normally have our sermon outlines.

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But today we're doing it just a little differently because this is going to be a dialogue sermon.

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In fact, it's rather spontaneous.

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We have some things we know we want to talk about, but I don't know what he's going to

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say or do.

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And he doesn't know what I'm going to say.

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No surprises here.

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No surprises here like last night, right?

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I want you to take a look at that because Venture's vision, the vision that gave us

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birth is right here.

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And we believe with all of our hearts that this is God's vision for us as a congregation.

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We have been on a journey.

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God has said, step your feet into the water.

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I'll part it.

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God has said to us, I have a land for you to possess.

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And we have said by God's grace and goodness, yes, Lord, we will go toward that promised

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land.

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And this is the vision God has given us.

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I wish I had time to read all of this.

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I don't, but I do want to point out to you the paragraph that says, knowing Christ and

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making him known, loving God and loving others, growing into a real community of heaven on

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earth, a part of God's kingdom.

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That's something that matters.

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Everybody wants to be a part of something that matters.

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We believe with all of our hearts that what we're about here matters and it matters forever.

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Now as Pastor David and I have thought about this vision, we've had a dream ourselves.

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We call it our pastoral dream.

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And on the back, on the other side, you'll find that the Venture's vision actually runs

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over into the back page.

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But then you'll notice a line that says, a pastoral dream for Venture.

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We want to share with you that dream this morning and some implications of it.

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Pastor Dave is going to talk about that, but Dave, you know this last year has been a year

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of rather unusual focus, hasn't it?

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Well, as Gail and I talked about the message, we understood that for this last year, we've

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had a focus.

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Now how many of you have ever built church buildings before?

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Can I see your hand?

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Well, if you have, you know that in building church buildings can sink the church because

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there can be tremendous conflict there as well as financial responsibility.

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But quite often, it sinks the pastor.

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It is not unusual that as a pastor gets into some type of building program within a few

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months or even during the building or the building itself, they resign and go someplace

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else.

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I've seen that over and over again.

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The other thing that we have known is that as we have studied mergers, we understand

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that the majority of churches who work at merging don't make it.

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And the congregation can sink or particularly the pastorate can sink.

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Matter of fact, I knew of another church right here in town, two pastors were going to merge,

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some things didn't go right, and neither one of them are in the positions they had before.

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So what are we saying?

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This last year, we've had a focus.

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And it's been a tremendous focus to do two things that one by themselves could have drowned

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Remodel a building and get it all done and to merge a congregation.

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And one of the things that we're about saying today is that that focus now is going to shift

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to the task that God has called us to.

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Now what's the task that God has called us to?

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Well, if you go over to Acts chapter 6, it says that when the apostles saw all the things

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growing in the church and all the things that needed to be done, they called the whole congregation

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together, made sure that some deacons were selected to take care of the things that the

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church needed to have done.

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But the job of the apostle was to minister in the word of God and for prayer.

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And so we want to say to you, for this whole last year, we have been focusing on merger

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and on building.

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It's now time for us to get back.

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Hallelujah.

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To our focus.

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Yeah, I got to tell you, God didn't call me in the ministry, didn't call Galen into the

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ministry to be a contractor.

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I didn't call us to sit down in all kinds of business meetings and take care of every

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finance thing in the world.

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Didn't call us just to merge churches, but to be about the kingdom's business and the

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kingdom's business always involves people.

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And so there's a focus shift coming into our life because God has blessed us and a merger

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has come together.

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We're in this building now for our second weekend.

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And now we're kind of excited to get back to the focus that we're talking about.

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People and Jesus, the word of God and prayer.

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And you need to know that we're excited about getting back into that area.

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Listen, there's a pastoral dream for venture that comes our way.

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If you want to pull out this little blue sheet, let me encourage you to do that.

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Now, let me ask you, as you read the Bible, how many of you remember there are Jewish

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believers and what's the other group called?

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What kind of believers?

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Gentile believers?

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How many of you know that they had different food habits?

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Can you imagine like the picnic that we're having today, the Jewish believers all bringing

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their kosher food and the Gentile believers bringing their pickles, pig feet?

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Can you imagine what kind of consternation that would have caused within the life of the

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congregation?

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Well, that's kind of what's happened to us over this last year.

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We've come from a similar but yet different culture.

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God is always about blending His family together.

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And that's what we've experienced.

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So where do we go now?

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Well, if you take a look under a pastoral dream for venture, it says, our shared dream

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for venture Christian is that of a church known as God-centered, purpose-driven, people

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empowered.

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Everybody has a right to minister as the children of God.

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It is a congregation full of life and exciting to experience with a place for all ages.

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I don't know if you know or not, we've got some great things going.

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We have 80 young people coming to our college group now.

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Some just tremendous things.

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We've got all kinds of people, young people in our children's program, a place for all

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Now, you've got to grab this.

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We're not talking about a small church.

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It is both numerically large and spiritually deep.

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Its methodology is fresh and innovative, respectful of tradition, but not bound by it because

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we live in a changing culture.

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Don't change the word, but sometimes you change your style.

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And openly trust God for supernatural results.

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What are we saying here?

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We're saying unless God shows up, we've just wasted our time.

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Unless God comes to us in the midst of our worship and our prayer and our study, there

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isn't any transformation within us individually or collectively, and we invite the supernatural

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nature of God to show up and to bring results in the midst of what we're doing.

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It is a church.

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It is characterized as a community of joy.

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We'll say some more about that in a moment, but notice that the dream continues with a

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very significant sentence.

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It says, venture is renowned for its integrity, reflecting its highest priority, which is

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to glorify God by bringing his wonderful life and message of grace to others by serving

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them in the name of Jesus Christ.

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Our mission is to serve others, to love them in the name of Jesus Christ, and in doing

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that to glorify God.

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Yeah, amen.

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Guess that next one.

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Let me ask you something.

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Have you ever known some ugly, attractive people?

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You know what I'm talking about.

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There's something compelling about these people.

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You want to be with them, but as you looked on the outside, they're not the most attractive

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people in the world.

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Now we're talking about an inward attraction here.

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We're talking about a church that is attractive with compelling worship, powerful teaching,

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and real relationships that equip people to live extraordinary lives of God-honoring purpose.

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As God's forever family, it cares for the hurting, restores the fallen, embraces the

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lonely, and offer hopes to the desperate.

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And I have to tell you, after last night's service, one of our key leaders in recovery

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ministry grabbed me and said, do you know why I'm doing this?

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And then began to share with me what he sees taking place in the heart of the desperate,

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those who have been downfallen and lonely as he cooks for them and shares with them.

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And a community has been made out of those who have had some desperate struggles in the

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midst of their life.

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He told me that, and he wasn't boasting in this, he said he had put in 400 hours this

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last year.

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Isn't that great?

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In cooking primarily for CR and their Friday evening events.

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I love those phrases in that last paragraph.

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That closing sentence captures so much of our passion for serving others.

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So we ask the question, does this church, this kind of church, exist?

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Frankly, not yet.

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Not perfectly.

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Not here.

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Not anywhere.

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But the dream is becoming a reality because God is at work in the people of Venture Christian

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Do you believe that?

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Is God at work in our midst?

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Is he making us this kind of a church?

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That is our dream.

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And I know that all of you share that dream with us.

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Our aim is real people who have real stories that they're willing to share honestly and

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transparently and who form together real community.

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And our question is, will you share the dream and its implications with us?

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We want to talk about some of those implications this morning because they really begin to

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flesh out this dream.

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The first implication is this, that we dream of a church with dynamic worship services

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that no one will want to miss and a congregational life that is God-filled, attractive, and life-changing.

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We have just come together in this beautiful new worship center.

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And it's comfortable and it's beautiful to the eye.

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It's pleasing.

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And I think those things are pleasing to God.

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He's given us wonderful technology that we can use.

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But you know something?

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Powerful worship is not about any of these things.

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Powerful worship is about experiencing God together.

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It's about being a God-filled people.

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That's what powerful worship is about.

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And therefore because our congregational life, and that means us individually and as we come

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together because we are God-filled, because our lives are attractive, and because our

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lives are changing, being transformed by the power of God, when we come together that worship

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is going to be powerful.

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And the result of that is when people come here onto this campus and there are guests

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and they visit with us, as they will on October 4th and 5th in a big way we trust, on our

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grand opening weekend.

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As they come here, they're going to sense God is here.

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Is that a dream you share?

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We want people to know that God is at work here.

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And what He's doing is not because of the things, but it's because of what He desires

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to do in the lives of people to change us all to be like the Lord Jesus Christ.

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We want to see our congregational life more infused by prayer.

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One of the dreams I have in this coming year is that we will see prayer begin to emerge

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in new ways in our congregation.

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And that as we begin to express our worship and our trust in God through prayer, then

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God is going to begin parting those waters and doing those extraordinary things to enable

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us to possess the land.

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I think most of you recognize it because you were here when we did it.

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But underneath your feet and on the wall surrounding you are the scriptures and the prayers that

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we wrote before the carpet went down and for all the walls were painted.

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We are surrounded by God words and by prayers that we've offered to Him to make this a place

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to His glory and to His honor.

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Listen, that really begins to happen.

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What Galen was talking about is that life transformation begins to come to us, not just

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the knowledge of a word, not just knowing about Jesus, but becoming Christ followers

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in such a way that Jesus is revealed within us.

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By the way, as Galen and I have talked about this, we're so excited about you.

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You guys have done such a great job.

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And this is all part of the celebration that we're having today.

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But I don't know about you, but I played some golf this last week and it was a thing where

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the four of us were against all the other foursomes.

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It was what they call a scramble.

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And when we got on the green, which was good for us, and when we were able to sink the

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putt, we all kind of rejoiced together, so why don't you just turn around and give some

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high fives to some folks and say, you've done good.

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Just give a high five to someone around and say, you've done all right.

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Hey, Galen, I'll be there.

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You've done good, man.

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This is great stuff.

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Because I got to tell you, you've done a great job.

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Listen, we know the difference between a congregation that's responsive and willing and ready to

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go somewhere with God and the transformation that comes with Jesus Christ.

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And we know when that's not happening.

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And when that's not happening, you got dead church and we don't have dead church.

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I mean, God's just doing some great things.

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I want you to take a look at the next thing that we have here.

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I like this.

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Galen said this one was mine.

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We dream of a church where holiness and joy, love and laughter abound.

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Now what does that mean?

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What does that mean?

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Well, the first of it says this, we expect you to behave yourselves.

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Can I put it any better than that?

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You know, the kids begin to leave home and they go out the door and they go to school

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and you kind of say, don't embarrass us.

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Or sometimes the kids say to the parents, my kids say to me, Dad, we're going out to

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eat, don't embarrass us.

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Because I'll talk to the waiter or whoever like they're a long lost friend.

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You know, we'll do things.

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I remember my dad, remember those days when somebody else filled your gas tank?

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Do you remember that?

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I remember being in the car with my dad and we pulled up to the service station and dad

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would start talking to the attendant like he had known him forever.

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And that was all right when I was five years old, but when I was 15, it made me want to

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kind of crawl underneath the dashboard.

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Dad, you don't even really know this guy and you're talking to him like this.

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I had to learn that's just who my dad was.

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But listen, people say, well, we go to church here, but people don't know we go to church

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here.

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Oh yes, they do.

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Oh yes, they do.

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Occasionally I'll have somebody walk up to me and they'll point to somebody over there

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and they say, do they come to church here?

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And the way they ask the question, like they're surprised.

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We know that people see us within the midst of the community.

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Somebody said to me, pastor, how come you don't have any Jesus bumper sticker on your

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car?

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Well, because sometimes I don't want to embarrass Jesus.

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You cut somebody off in traffic or something, you got that Jesus little thing on your thing,

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what in the world's going on?

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Listen, behave yourself in the midst of the community.

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In the midst of that, listen to what we're saying here, is that we want to be a joyful

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community.

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Now, part of that joyfulness is expressed in the fact that we have laughter here.

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Now, what are we saying about laughter?

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Well, what Gail and I, whatever time that Gail and I have here, we want to promise you,

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we are still going to keep sharing with you the same bad jokes.

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And maybe some new ones.

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And maybe some new ones that are bad.

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Whatever.

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I mean, just so there can be a midst of joy and laughter.

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By the way, Gail, happy anniversary.

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Oh, you're so thoughtful.

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Now, I want you to see this.

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I need to open this up?

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You need to open it up.

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I want you to, you know, what does it say?

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You did it.

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Put it up close.

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And you did it big time.

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Little rap going on here.

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Now, listen, I expected the next service where you'd be able to sing that and to do some

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stuff here.

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I'm really touched.

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You go this way or this way?

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I'll go one way, you go the other.

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We'll see what happens.

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We'll stir up something.

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Listen, we believe that coming into the presence of God is a joyful experience.

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Now, how many of you are 60 years old and older?

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That's a good part of this.

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How many of you remember going to church when you were younger, particularly you guys, where

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you had to wear those narrow ties and those tab collars?

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Do you remember that?

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And if you didn't dress up with that, that looked like you were half choked to death,

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you couldn't go to church.

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Do you remember that?

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Your blood supply was being cut off to your head.

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As a teenager, I look back and say, how didn't we pass out during the middle of service?

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There was kind of a thought that said, if you didn't look like you had been pickled

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in some type of juice and frowned when you went to church, you weren't serious enough.

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But I got to tell you, something happened in the Jesus revolution here in the United

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States where all of a sudden, to me, the joy of Jesus came back into the church.

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So we can be very, very serious about our faith, but at the same time, we can rejoice

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in him and celebrate in him.

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Now, Jesus kind of said it this way.

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He said, everybody will know that you are my disciples by the way that you love one

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another.

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Our fellowship is precious to us.

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It is in the midst of the fellowship, which the love of God has revealed that takes us

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all the way to heaven and we begin to enjoy each other here.

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Because I have to tell you, you are not just my here and now brother and sister.

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You are my forever brother and sister.

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In the meals that we share together, like at the picnic today, we'll just go on forever

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and ever and ever.

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For we are loved in Christ Jesus and he has given us to each other and our love is a forever

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love.

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Can you say amen to that?

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We want a church like that.

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Amen.

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How many of you believe that God is full of joy?

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Do you believe that?

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How many of you believe that God is holy?

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Yeah, God is both, isn't he?

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Somehow we get in our minds that holiness and joy don't work together.

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But they do.

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They are mutually exclusive.

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Holiness produces joy.

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And our heavenly father said, you be holy because what?

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I'm holy.

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Because I'm holy.

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That's right.

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And the joy that he produces in our life is deep.

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It's not flippant.

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It's not superficial.

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It's a deep, abiding delight in God and what he's doing in our lives.

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Well the dream continues as we think about another important concept.

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And that is we dream of a church in which Christ followers are growing towards spiritual

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maturity.

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Notice that it says towards spiritual maturity because it's difficult for us to ever say

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we really arrive, isn't it?

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Now if you have arrived at complete, full spiritual maturity and you are perfect, please

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come up afterward and share your secret with me because I need to learn that.

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I'm still growing towards spiritual maturity.

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And we see a church where we as the people of God are growing.

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We've been born into God's family and now we're growing up and deeper in our faith.

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This happens in a process that Paul talks about in Ephesians chapter 4.

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He says that God gives different spiritual gifts to a church.

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Apostles, prophets, pastors and teachers and evangelists.

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And he says, and he does this to prepare God's people for works of service.

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You know we're all ministers, aren't we?

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We're not just the ministers of the church.

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The staff is not the ministers of the church.

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We have that title but we're all ministers.

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We're all to be doing the works of ministry.

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And he says that God wants us in our role to prepare all of us to do the works of service

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so that the body of Christ, that is the church, may be built up until we all reach unity in

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the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the

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whole measure of the fullness of Christ.

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In other words, that we become fully developed and like Jesus in the way that we live our

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lives.

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Then, when that happens, then we will no longer be infants tossed back and forth by the waves

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and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness

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of men in their deceitful scheming.

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You all saw pictures of that terrible hurricane that struck Texas this week and how the winds

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blew and the waves came in.

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And we live in a world like that, folks.

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There are assaults against us as people who are made in the image of God.

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There are assaults against us as the people of God who are walking with God made all the

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time.

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What we believe is under assault in our culture.

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He says if we want to avoid being tossed back and forth, then we need to grow up to spiritual

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maturity.

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He says, speak the truth in love and we will in all things grow up into Him who is the

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head that is Christ.

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And so we dream of a church that is in process, a church that is growing, pressing on the

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upward way as we used to sing.

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You notice that the evidence of spiritual maturity in this text is at least twofold.

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There's unity and then there's stability.

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Unity.

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This has not been an easy process, we know, as we've come together.

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And some of you emotionally are still kind of caught in that process of coming together

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as one body.

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What we want to say to you is that today as we celebrate this anniversary, it's time to

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recognize that this is God's calling in our lives and to press on toward unity.

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To put aside whatever differences there may be.

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To forgive one another if that's what is required.

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And then to press on to become one.

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Paul says in Romans chapter 15 that we are to accept one another in Jesus Christ.

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And there he's talking about the Jew and the Gentile that Dave was talking about earlier

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with their vast differences.

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And Paul says, hey, get over it.

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You are in Jesus Christ, now accept one another.

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Dave and I are very different.

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That's no surprise to any of you.

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We're different in style, we're different in personality.

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But you know what?

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We're unified in the purpose of God in this place.

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You need to know that.

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We're on the same page in fulfilling God's vision for this place.

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That doesn't mean we're going to agree on everything and there are times we don't agree

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on things.

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But we work through that and press on toward the purpose of God.

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Paul says accept one another.

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So spiritual maturity means that we grow into unity.

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And this next year I pray with all of my heart that that is a focus for all of us.

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That we focus on what God is calling us to be in Christ Jesus and we accept one another.

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And he says along with unity is stability.

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Spiritual maturity means I become stable.

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I'm not tossed around.

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I don't get thrown back and forth by the things that hit me.

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By the things I hear.

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By the cunning and crafty scheming of men.

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Rather I am growing stable in Christ Jesus.

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I'm growing up into him.

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So we dream of a church that's growing toward spiritual maturity.

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And this happens by a lot of tools in our lives including being here like this, spending

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time with God in prayer, but also in connectedness.

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And you need to know how important that is, that we be connected.

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We rejoice in what God is doing in the mid-sized groups of our church.

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We have seen growth in the terms of numbers of groups and in the groups themselves.

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We have one group, the one I call Horizons a while ago.

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Coi Inia.

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I don't know why I can't get that in my mind.

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Coi Inia has grown, what, 100 did we hear?

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We enlarged some rooms up there to increase capacity for our life communities and that

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group is already starting to fill up the larger room.

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How frustrating is that, right?

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Oh, that's a great problem.

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We have almost 400 adults now coming to life communities.

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Praise God for that.

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We have a lot of connectedness happening in small groups as well in the church.

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What do we hear this week?

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How many women are in?

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250 this week.

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250 women in our Bible studies.

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That's without Jewel and some of the other things happening yet.

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These are just the seven or eight women's Bible studies and there are other ministries

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as well where women are connecting.

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We had 60, maybe 80, we've had different numbers on the number of men who were in the men's

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Bible study on Tuesday night.

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And Dave mentioned to you, we have 80 in our college group.

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Isn't that amazing?

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80 students in our college group.

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We don't have a real residential college here either.

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That's right.

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Which is the typical place where these things grow.

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We have 80 students and it doesn't count those who've gone away from here to school and other

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places.

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So folks, God is at work.

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He's building us into communities and out of that community, out of that being together,

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He brings us to maturity.

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I just hope that if you're not a part of one of these groups that you will get connected

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because coming here on Sunday for one service is not enough.

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It takes more than that to grow to spiritual maturity.

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We have to decide that we're not going to be people who are one year old in Christ 10

481
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,840
times over, but rather we're 10 years old in Jesus Christ.

482
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That there's a growth, not just a repetition, but a growth in Jesus Christ leading us on

483
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,200
to the greater things.

484
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,440
Hey, I got long winded on that one.

485
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,440
I apologize.

486
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:52,520
Listen, we decided that when God first put this vision into Galen's heart, that if we

487
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:58,880
were going to do this, we would be Jesus's odd couple.

488
00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,880
Which one are you?

489
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:00,880
I'm the messy one.

490
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,880
I'm the messy one.

491
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,880
I know who I am.

492
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,880
I'm the disheveled guy.

493
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,880
That's why you're so good to me.

494
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,880
Oh yeah.

495
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:06,880
It's just that simple.

496
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:07,880
We understand God gives us different gifts and talents.

497
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:21,760
We come from different backgrounds, different parts of the country, different ways in which

498
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,240
we'd go about church at times.

499
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,200
If we were the same, one of us would be unnecessary.

500
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,200
Absolutely.

501
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,200
That's right.

502
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,200
And that's true of the whole world.

503
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,200
That's right.

504
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,360
God uniquely gifted us.

505
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:37,040
I have to tell you, we believe in what we call the priesthood of believers.

506
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:42,160
That means every child of God has a right to serve in the kingdom ministries.

507
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,480
So one of the things I've always said to the church, if you go to the hospital and somebody

508
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,120
says, who are you?

509
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,520
You say, I'm one of the ministers from Venture.

510
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,480
Now that gets kind of funny because a number of years ago when we're over at the old South

511
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,400
Valley Church, I gave people the same permission.

512
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,220
I got to church on a Sunday morning and one of our church leaders had had a mild heart

513
00:31:02,220 --> 00:31:04,160
attack late Saturday night.

514
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,000
And I was busy that day, but all through the day people had gone to the hospital over at

515
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,080
Santa Teresa at Kaiser to see him.

516
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,080
I didn't get there until nine o'clock at night.

517
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,280
And I wasn't quite sure what room this guy was in.

518
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,480
So I went walking up to the nurse's station.

519
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,680
I knew the floor and I went up to that station and this gal looked at me and I said, I'm

520
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:23,680
looking for so-and-so.

521
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,320
And she looked at me and said, do you know how late it is?

522
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,160
And I said, yeah, but I'm looking for so-and-so.

523
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,440
And she said, well, who are you?

524
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,240
And I said, well, I'm Pastor Sackins from the church.

525
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:38,400
And she kind of looked up to me and she says, how many pastors do you guys have?

526
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,400
You know?

527
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,760
And then she said to me, there have been too many pastors here already today.

528
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,200
You can't see them.

529
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,080
And I said, but I'm the pastor.

530
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,720
Listen, I've been to the hospital a lot so I found the guy.

531
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,440
Anyway, but listen, God has called us wonderfully together to minister together.

532
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,360
I want you to look at the next thing that we're going to talk about.

533
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:05,040
This thing simply says this, we dream of a church where joyful, generous giving is the

534
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:10,880
norm because of an eternal kingdom perspective has gripped our imagination.

535
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:11,880
Here's what we're saying.

536
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,480
We believe because we have a great vision that God will provide great resources for

537
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,480
it.

538
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:21,240
Now, I realize that people who come to church, the last thing that they really want to talk

539
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:26,560
about is giving and finances and so forth, but yet it's an integral part of my relationship

540
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,560
with God.

541
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,440
And when Gail and I were talking about who was going to do what, I said, man, I'll take

542
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:36,120
that and as we always do, we say, God, we got something that we're supposed to talk

543
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,120
about.

544
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,320
Now give us something to say.

545
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,880
Give us some biblical insight that we haven't had before.

546
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,520
Teach us some truths that we haven't seen before.

547
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,480
And I got to tell you, the way it came to me this week is that I was in this charity

548
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:54,080
golf tournament and I had a foursome that I was part of a foursome.

549
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,840
And one of the guys that's part of the foursome is a Christian businessman in our valley.

550
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,160
I've known him for years.

551
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:06,240
He doesn't live here, real close to us, and he doesn't attend church here.

552
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,240
And I saw him.

553
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,640
Matter of fact, I'd been out practicing a little bit and got done doing that and he

554
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,040
arrived a little bit later.

555
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,440
He wanted to get some practice before we went up.

556
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,920
And I saw him and we greeted each other and then he went off to the driving range and

557
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,040
he came back.

558
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,840
And we talked about very quickly, you know, how's the family, et cetera, et cetera, very

559
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:31,160
shallow, you know, at first.

560
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,480
But all of a sudden he looked at me.

561
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,280
He looked at me with an intensity.

562
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,080
Very early on in our conversation and he says, how's your tithing?

563
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,960
And just the way he said it surprised me.

564
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,600
I looked at him and I said, well, if you're asking me personally, I'm fine.

565
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,720
And you need to know I am.

566
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,840
I've just practiced tithing for a long time in my life and the blessings of God have flowed

567
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,680
into my life, I think, because of that.

568
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,720
God promises it.

569
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,720
And I said, well, I'm fine.

570
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,080
And he said, no, no, no.

571
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,280
He says, how's the church's tithing?

572
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,280
And I said, what?

573
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,920
You know, he's never said anything like that to me before.

574
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,200
The only time we talk about money is when I would say, how's the business going?

575
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,860
You're being prosperous or not?

576
00:34:11,860 --> 00:34:15,160
Because I've known them when the business is up and I've known them when the business

577
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,160
has been down.

578
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,960
And I said, what's up?

579
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:25,640
And he said, well, Dave, he said, you need to know that joyous giving has broken out

580
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,640
in our church.

581
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:31,800
And he says, it's broken out in me.

582
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,480
He says, I've never seen anything like this before.

583
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,840
And I said, well, what's going on?

584
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,080
He says, you know, we're in the midst of the recession.

585
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:46,360
And last month in August, without any campaign, without anything, we doubled our monthly need.

586
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,600
And I said, what happened?

587
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,640
He said, God has broken out in generosity in our people and our congregation has been

588
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,480
filled with joy.

589
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,160
And I said, God, that's what I'm talking about this week.

590
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,160
To know what it is to be a part of God's great venture of knowing that it all belongs to

591
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,720
him, to know that I can't out give him.

592
00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:13,000
And listen, people say to us all the time, how's the finances going?

593
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:19,360
Well, praise God, last week, our finances begin July 1, our fiscal year begins July

594
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,520
1, right in the middle of summer when all of you are gone.

595
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,080
And so last week was the first week that we made budget.

596
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,360
Last week was the first week.

597
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,520
So somebody says, well, what does that mean?

598
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,720
That means all summer long, it's like breathing air through a straw.

599
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:38,960
Just trying to keep the general fund strong.

600
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:44,280
But we know that God is the God of our resources.

601
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,160
Somebody asked me last night, they said, what kind of home did you grow up in?

602
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,080
Well, I grew up in a wonderful, loving home.

603
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:56,240
Have to tell you something though, my dad all of his life struggled with this thing

604
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:57,240
called tithing.

605
00:35:57,240 --> 00:36:00,320
And I know he struggled with it.

606
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:06,000
I have to tell you, there were some blessings that probably would have come to our home

607
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:11,440
if my dad would have gotten hold of those principles earlier.

608
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:20,680
Because when you begin to follow the principles of God in celebratory giving, the windows

609
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,960
of heaven just breaks open.

610
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:29,160
Somebody said it this way, you got to practice the I-O.

611
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,520
Those are just two letters.

612
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,520
Somebody says, what does that mean?

613
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:34,520
Instant obedience.

614
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,200
By the way, do you have your wallet with you?

615
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,000
Would you just take your wallet out if you have your wallet with you?

616
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,760
Would you just grab it and take it out?

617
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:44,760
I left mine home.

618
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:45,760
Yeah.

619
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,760
You have your wallet, I want you to take it out.

620
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:47,760
Take your wallet out and hold it up.

621
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:48,760
Just kind of hold it up here.

622
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,440
I'm going to have to hold this one up.

623
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,440
Just hold it up.

624
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,960
Now here's what we're going to do.

625
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,760
I'm going to ask you in a moment to give your wallet to the person next to you.

626
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,120
Now not your husband or wife, got to be somebody you don't know.

627
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:15,600
And I'm going to ask them to give like they've always wanted to give.

628
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,940
Now how do you celebrate giving?

629
00:37:20,940 --> 00:37:27,120
You hold the wallet up to God, checkbook, whatever, and you say, God, what do you want me to do

630
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,400
with this?

631
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,200
And then you listen and hear.

632
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:43,600
In an instant obedience, doing what God tells you to do, the windows of heaven are broken

633
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,000
open with blessing.

634
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:51,960
Let me tell you, I need to be blessed, so do you.

635
00:37:51,960 --> 00:38:01,320
And when I hold it before God and ask him what he wants me to do with it, and I respond,

636
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,240
God opens up the windows of heaven.

637
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:06,240
Can you say amen to that?

638
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:07,240
I will say amen to that.

639
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:09,560
I will say amen to that.

640
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:10,920
We need to wrap this up.

641
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,200
What are we asking from you?

642
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:19,680
Here's the question I have, what step would God have you to commit to this morning to

643
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:20,680
be a part of this dream?

644
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:26,400
For some of you it may mean coming next Saturday and joining us at the Discovery 101 class

645
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,320
and getting into the groove for membership here at the church.

646
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,440
For others of you it may mean getting into a small group or into one of the mid-sized

647
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,560
groups, one of the life communities we have as a church.

648
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,640
For others of you it may mean taking a step toward tithing.

649
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,280
If you can't do 10% right now, if you don't have the faith to do that joyfully right now,

650
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,720
then give 5% or 1%.

651
00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:51,640
So you're just talking about that because the church is sucking air through a straw.

652
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,240
Let me tell you something.

653
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:57,960
If you think that's my motive, then you make the decision what percentage God wants you

654
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,040
to give and give it somewhere else.

655
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,000
And try him and see if he doesn't bless you when you give.

656
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,520
The reason that we want you to give joyfully is because that brings the blessing of God

657
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,520
upon your life, upon your life.

658
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:20,680
Maybe it's a step of saying, Lord, I am going to be inviting my friends.

659
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,960
We're going to give you a postcard next week.

660
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,140
Do you have that postcard with you?

661
00:39:25,140 --> 00:39:27,160
This postcard is something that looks like this.

662
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,160
We're going to give it to you and you can give it to people, you can mail it to them

663
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,720
and invite them to be here for the grand opening.

664
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:37,600
But folks, we need you to be a part of the dream.

665
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,680
And we need you today to say, I'm going to take this step, at least this step is going

666
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,160
to be my part.

667
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,720
I'm going to be growing towards spiritual maturity this year, whatever it is.

668
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:47,720
Let's pray together.

669
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:52,320
Would you stand with me as we close our service in prayer?

670
00:39:52,320 --> 00:40:02,360
Father, I pray that we will catch the vision, that we will see the dream you have for what

671
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:08,480
this body of believers can do, not only in our day, but in the generations to come.

672
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:15,720
Lord, help us to see the legacy that we're leaving to the kingdom of God.

673
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:23,240
And I pray today, whatever that step is for each one of us, that we will take it in faith

674
00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:27,760
and with joy and with I.O.

675
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:33,320
and obedience, knowing that when we do that, it blesses your heart and your blessings will

676
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:34,640
come upon us.

677
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:39,840
Father, thank you for this wonderful group of people who are here in this service.

678
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,120
Thank you for their support.

679
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,600
Thank you for their love for us.

680
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,420
Thank you for their love for this church.

681
00:40:47,420 --> 00:40:49,360
Thank you for their love for Jesus.

682
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,240
As in his name I pray, amen.

683
00:40:52,240 --> 00:41:00,400
God bless you.

