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So, what advice would you give a new podcaster who's trying to use Pinterest?

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What advice would you give them to use it to promote it?

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I would say like start small because if you like go all in with it immediately and you

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don't see all these results, like you're gonna be annoyed and feel like you wasted your time.

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Pinterest is a long game.

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It always has been. I've said that since, you know, 2016 when I started working in it.

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It's always been a long game.

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It's not something you can just pin and all of a sudden people are flocking to it.

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It's just it like it lasts a lot longer than a lot of the other social platforms.

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Like I know like an Instagram feed post is like super short shelf life.

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I want to say it's like a day maybe, maybe two days max.

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It's really short.

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So Pinterest is like months, months and months and months.

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Like that is really important.

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So like if you're pinning like images, you know, we're recording this in January.

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So if you're pinning images in January, like I wouldn't expect to see them start taking

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off until, you know, February at the earliest because it just takes a while for the algorithm

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to pick it up.

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So start small.

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Don't have like super crazy expectations.

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You're not it's not going to go viral as easy as it used to back in the day just because

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the platform has evolved.

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Just like it's not as easy to go viral on Instagram or even TikTok anymore.

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So you just have to set your expectations and you know, just just be in it for the long

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haul.

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And you know, if after six months you haven't seen any traction, then obviously I would,

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you know, reevaluate if you want us to continue spending time there.

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But don't just give up after like two weeks because that's not going to do anyone any

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good.

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I say that about podcasting too.

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Don't give up if you don't get a bunch of downloads.

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Yeah.

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Podcasting is also a long game.

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I think I think the best some of the best tools are long games.

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So we just all need to be patient.

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And in this society, it's really hard to be patient because like Netflix gives us like

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bingeable episodes that we get a whole season dropped in a day.

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But like you just need to be patient.