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Can you speak to me a little bit more about what the process was of like when you

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felt, when you were initially felt like, okay, I'm starting to feel burnt out.

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What did you do and how did you kind of keep things going with like the day job

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and working for your clients and all those things while also

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protecting your own mental health?

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Yeah, that's an important thing.

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I think that a lot of podcasters are going to, they miss out on it.

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This episode, I think people are going to look at it and they're going to go,

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oh, I don't need to learn about that.

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But it's actually one of the most important things that I think podcasters

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or any content creator is going to encounter is the straight up like grind

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and feeding the machine and feeding the beast.

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And it needs to really be looked at because it can really cause a lot of

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physical and mental damage to you.

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And me being someone who in the past used to do things at the extreme and it'll be

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like, ah, it's going to be okay.

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Now that I'm older, it has now caught up to me.

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And just because I was younger, didn't mean that I couldn't handle it.

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I could, but it did catch up to me later down the line.

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So to answer the question about what did I do and how did I kind of like take those

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steps forward to take steps back?

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You know, in the beginning, when I first started this whole journey, if someone

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would have told me to, well, they did tell me because I took a course in and I

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actually had a coach about it.

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Uh, they said, set up the elements of your business to where the moments in which

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you get burned out can kind of just run on their own and you can acquire leads.

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You can acquire, you can build whatever content that you need.

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Um, not saying that content can be automated.

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It can be at points in time, but it turns out to me crap content, but just

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setting up those initial pieces, my business, setting up my email list.

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I'm sure, you know, we have, you know, you've talked about email lists on this,

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on this podcast before, you know, and the importance of having an email list

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and harvesting those leads.

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So in my mind, my coach had told me, uh, you need to put this into your head.

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Um, doesn't matter if you're a business owner or a podcaster, a YouTuber, a blog

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or whatever, set up something like an email list so that you can automate it

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and have it coming, you know, have people coming to you and, you know, you're still

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looking for business, but it doesn't necessarily mean you have to be completely

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active.

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So for me, that's what ended up happening.

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I had an email list.

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It was con it's still constantly growing every single day grows every single day.

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Um, I communicate with those people every now and again, but, um, for me,

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uh, I had that aspect and then I had the aspect of content creation.

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And the content creation was the, that was the thing that was really kind of just,

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uh, burning me out.

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And I was strictly creating YouTube content, knowing that with YouTube

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content, I could, I could really, uh, boil it down into different pieces

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of micro content, right?

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So I could say video, and then I could take the audio, turn it into a podcast

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if I wanted to, and then I could take that, transcribe it, turn it into a blog,

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take that trend, you know, the typical things that you hear.

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But for me doing all those things without the funds, without the money was

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like overwhelming, you know, and to this day, it's still kind of overwhelming

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because I like things done a specific way.

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And so, um, I ended up kind of just taking a step back because the content

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creation became so overblown.

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It became so, um, uh, you know, hefty on my end.

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And I was like, I can't do this.

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And I'm creating more content that is bad than I'm creating content that is

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good. And I think that's important.

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It's like watching your favorite TV show.

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It's first season would be awesome.

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And then they go to the second season.

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It's awesome.

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Then by the time you, you're hoping by, if they get to season five, it's still a

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great show, but you've seen some shows where by the time you get to season four,

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they just really are not that good because it's like, they're just really

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trying to reach for too much.

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And, you know, to use an old phrase, you know, they just jumped the

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shark in the shows.

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And I didn't want to do that with my content.

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I didn't want to jump the shark and just say like, here are the five reasons why

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podcasters need, uh, be socks, you know, podcasts don't even know about like

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specific socks.

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Like I know what I need for specific socks, but that's content that I think

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that they just don't, it's not really that's being searched.

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It's not being, you know, it draws curiosity, but then they look at it and

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they go, no, that's not good.

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So I just took a step back and, um, slowly just kind of took a step back and

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slowly just kind of took a step back.

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I notified my subscribers, told them, Hey, you know, I'm taking a break.

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This is, this is something that I have to do.

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And, uh, that was a year ago now.

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And so that, that is, that is what I've needed.

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I've needed like a solid year to really kind of recover.