1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:16,300 Hey everyone, Ashley here with RSS.com. 2 00:00:16,300 --> 00:00:19,920 I'm so excited to bring you Andrew Olloman of Podcast Guest.com. 3 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,980 It's also known as the hero for podcasters. 4 00:00:22,980 --> 00:00:23,980 Enjoy the show. 5 00:00:23,980 --> 00:00:28,480 Andrew, welcome to the show. 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:29,480 Thanks. 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:30,480 It's great to be here. 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,340 Well, I'm just super stoked to have you here because I've actually been like kind of sneaking 9 00:00:34,340 --> 00:00:36,480 around and watching Podcast Guest.com. 10 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:40,920 So tell me a little bit about what it is you do and kind of the backstory of how it came 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:41,920 to be. 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:42,920 Sure. 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:48,240 So Podcast Guest.com is a free platform that connects podcasters with guests for their shows. 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,000 And the backstory is I'm a podcaster. 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,960 I've been podcasting for many years. 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,000 I recently published episode number 400 of my podcast. 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,880 And after about a year of podcasting, I do the guest format like a lot of people. 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,760 I was running out of guests. 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,440 I kind of tapped my Rolodex and I'd invited all the people I know that were relevant. 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,680 And then I was looking around like, how can I find someone new and interesting? 21 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,040 And so I looked around to see if there would be a platform to help me find guests for my 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,040 show. 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,520 And at the time, the only alternatives were these agencies which do a great job, but they're 24 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:20,520 expensive. 25 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,060 And I think most podcasters don't want to spend thousands of dollars a month finding 26 00:01:24,060 --> 00:01:25,120 guests for their show. 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,900 So I decided to create my own platform. 28 00:01:28,900 --> 00:01:31,140 And that was PodcastGuest.com. 29 00:01:31,140 --> 00:01:35,960 Now when did it launch and how did it first like, whenever you rolled it out, what did 30 00:01:35,960 --> 00:01:36,960 it look like? 31 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:37,960 Sure. 32 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:43,080 So I started in 2016 and I modeled the service off of a popular tool that PR people use, 33 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,040 which is called Helper Reporter Out or HARO. 34 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:52,120 And people use that to find people to interview for usually for their written articles, right? 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,920 Like I need someone who has a mortgage and they change jobs when they had mortgages, 36 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:57,920 right? 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,960 Someone's writing something for a Wall Street Journal, they'll send out their request. 38 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,000 That's how they get a lot of those responses, right? 39 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,100 You know, those kind of esoteric responses. 40 00:02:05,100 --> 00:02:07,540 So I decided to try the same thing for podcasts. 41 00:02:07,540 --> 00:02:09,760 And so it started just on email. 42 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,840 So we'd send out an email every week that said, here's some podcasts looking for guests. 43 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,700 And if you're a fit, pitch to them. 44 00:02:16,700 --> 00:02:19,380 So people click a link, they'd fill out a pitch form. 45 00:02:19,380 --> 00:02:21,920 So very much just like Helper Reporter Out. 46 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:25,120 And then over time, the user started asking for more, right? 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:30,000 They're like, hey, this is great, but it'd be wonderful if there was a way for say, podcasters 48 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,280 to come to me and invite me on their show because I'm looking through your lists and 49 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,680 I might be a fit for some of them, but my story doesn't really fit into those categories, 50 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,440 those neat categories. 51 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:45,480 And so over time, we added our directory, which now has about a thousand people in it. 52 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:50,480 And that allows podcasters to see who you are and what makes you interesting and invite 53 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,000 you to be a guest on their show. 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,000 That's amazing. 55 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,960 So now when the platform first began, did you have trouble getting people to sign up 56 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,320 on it or was it pretty quickly that everybody wanted part of it? 57 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,400 Well, I mean, it's certainly grown over time, right? 58 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,640 So now we have over 38,000 people. 59 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:11,080 And the first time I sent out an email, we had maybe 100 or 200. 60 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:16,260 And so I just reached out to podcasters I knew, I reached out to my podcast editor and other 61 00:03:16,260 --> 00:03:19,960 people and said, hey, you know, I have this problem. 62 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,460 I imagine other people do. 63 00:03:21,460 --> 00:03:23,640 If you have this problem, would you be interested in trying this out for me? 64 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:26,120 I don't know if it'll work, but let's give it a shot. 65 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,080 It's completely free. 66 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,520 And in it, you know, started growing slowly at first. 67 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,500 And then there was a lot of word of mouth, right? 68 00:03:32,500 --> 00:03:37,780 Like podcasters telling other podcasters about, hey, this is where I find guests or even saying 69 00:03:37,780 --> 00:03:41,140 on their show, I found this guest through podcastguest.com. 70 00:03:41,140 --> 00:03:45,840 And so it started to grow fairly rapidly from there, but it started out small. 71 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,380 I would send out maybe four or five podcasts a week. 72 00:03:48,380 --> 00:03:51,120 Now we send out two emails every week with 10 podcasts. 73 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,360 We're featuring 20 podcasts every week. 74 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,360 Wow. 75 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:55,360 That's a lot. 76 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:00,320 So 38,000 users, how in the world does someone not get lost in the shuffle? 77 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,320 Yeah. 78 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:07,000 So when we feature podcasts in our newsletter, they get typically, some of them will get 79 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:12,600 about five responses if they're very specific and others will get over a hundred, right? 80 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,620 And the ones that get over a hundred, it is more challenging to get booked on no shows. 81 00:04:16,620 --> 00:04:18,540 They tend to mirror podcasts in general. 82 00:04:18,540 --> 00:04:23,480 So entrepreneurship podcasts, for example, business, things that are really popular and 83 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,920 really broad tend to get the most. 84 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,160 But then there are some that only get a handful because they're pretty specific. 85 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,160 I'm always amazed. 86 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,720 I had someone recently who was looking for musicians from the 60s, 70s and 80s who were 87 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,020 fairly popular. 88 00:04:37,020 --> 00:04:40,920 And sure enough, they got about five pitches from people that were in bands that were kind 89 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,040 of popular back then over those decades, right? 90 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:49,460 So even though it's kind of specific and out there, they do get pitches. 91 00:04:49,460 --> 00:04:57,560 So when it comes to, from a guest perspective, getting booked on podcasts, they need to really 92 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,160 make that pitch perfect, right? 93 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:04,000 And perfect's too much of work, but they need to hone it and get pretty specific about what 94 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,280 they can talk about and what makes them unique and different from other guests that are going 95 00:05:08,280 --> 00:05:09,280 on their show. 96 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:14,560 I always tell people to what's called niche down, which is don't be super broad. 97 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,360 Like I'm a business person and I can talk about business on your show. 98 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,040 Well, there are millions of people that would meet that. 99 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,480 Be more specific, right? 100 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:31,880 So maybe you help law firms that are in the technology space in the Midwest find new clients, 101 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:32,880 right? 102 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:37,880 And so your expertise is how can this type of law firm find new clients? 103 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,760 It's more specific and it's more likely to grab the attention as long as it's relevant 104 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,680 to that podcaster. 105 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,360 Now from a host perspective, what should the host be asking for? 106 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,880 Like if you're trying to get very specific stuff, like how should they go about asking 107 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,240 the questions to get those guests that they're specifically looking for? 108 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,240 Right. 109 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:01,320 So there are two ways that podcasters, when they're using podcastguest.com can use our 110 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,400 system, our platform, if you will, to find guests. 111 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,440 And so one way is they can be one of those featured podcasts in our newsletter. 112 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,440 And so they tell us exactly what they're looking for and guests. 113 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:16,280 And you could say, I'm looking for this, this, and this, or you can go a little bit broader 114 00:06:16,280 --> 00:06:20,840 as well if you want to get the biggest number, potentially at a hundred plus people to pitch 115 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:22,560 to you, right? 116 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,640 The other thing is you can search through our directory at podcastguests.com slash directory 117 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:32,080 and you can search by category, you can search by keyword to find people. 118 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,640 If you're looking for something very specific, you might find them amongst that thousand, 119 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,840 but it tends to do even better if we can feature you so that even the people that aren't in 120 00:06:40,840 --> 00:06:44,680 that new, aren't in the directory can say, Hey, that's me. 121 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:49,360 And basically raise their hand and tell you why, why they're a fit for your show. 122 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:54,480 Now in your opinion, what is the, like if someone wanted to do guest swaps, for example, 123 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,160 because that used to be a big thing. 124 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,600 Everybody was just guest swapping. 125 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,960 How do you feel that is versus using podcastguest.com? 126 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:01,960 Yeah. 127 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,120 So, uh, guest swaps are a great way to grow your show. 128 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,480 In fact, I think the number one way for a podcaster to grow their show is to be a guest 129 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:10,480 on other shows. 130 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:11,480 Right. 131 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,840 When you think about it, a hundred percent of the people listening to that other show 132 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,360 are podcast listeners, right? 133 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,640 So you know, it's the most targeted medium for you to use compared to social media or 134 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,080 anything like that. 135 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,920 And so swaps are one thing you can do. 136 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,800 And I think it makes a lot of sense if you know, some podcasters that might be interested 137 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,180 in doing guest swaps, right? 138 00:07:30,180 --> 00:07:34,040 But a lot of times it's hard to find and there's a lot of outreach involved. 139 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,480 And so that's why that's one of the things. 140 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:41,160 Now with podcastguest, you're just offering to be a guest on the show, but you could always, 141 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,920 of course, say after you're on that show, hey, do you want to be a guest on my show? 142 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:45,920 Right. 143 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,960 So you can always offer that. 144 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:53,200 But it's really a matter of what, you know, if you have a huge network of fellow podcasters 145 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,200 and they're all kind of relevant to your space. 146 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,840 And I absolutely recommend talking to some of them about doing swaps. 147 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,000 In our case, we're not, um, one thing that we're very careful about is that you're not 148 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:08,200 demanding any sort of reciprocity or payment or anything for a guest appearance. 149 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,520 Now we do tell our guests to help promote that show after they're on them and you should 150 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:13,880 always offer that up. 151 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,640 That's a great way to get booked on shows. 152 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,520 And you're more likely to get booked on more shows if you do a lot of that promoting other 153 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,240 people's shows once you're on them. 154 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:27,160 Um, but you know, we, we avoid any of that kind of tit for tat kind of quip pro quo kind 155 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:28,440 of stuff, if you will. 156 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:34,240 And honestly, that's kind of why I like podcastguest.com is because it's, it's so much more than just, 157 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,320 Hey, let's just be on a bunch of shows. 158 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,440 It feels like it's a more professional route of, Hey, this is what I'm trying to get out. 159 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:41,740 This is my message. 160 00:08:41,740 --> 00:08:45,600 And so I'm using this to make sure I'm only going on the shows that really matter to my 161 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:46,600 audience. 162 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:47,600 Yeah. 163 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,480 And I recommend a lot of people try to get on as many shows as possible. 164 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,320 And there are some benefits to that. 165 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,220 Like every show you go on is practice if nothing else, right? 166 00:08:56,220 --> 00:08:58,020 You're getting better at your messaging. 167 00:08:58,020 --> 00:08:59,400 You're getting better at your speaking. 168 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,560 But I always encourage people to look for the ones that really have their target audience. 169 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:06,080 I'd much rather go on a show with a hundred listeners. 170 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,520 That's very specific to my audience than one with thousands of listeners that probably 171 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,720 don't really care about what I do. 172 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:13,720 Right. 173 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,240 So as an example, I'm on the RSS.com show right now. 174 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,920 Everyone listening is into podcasting, right? 175 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:24,040 So that's much better than going on a big show where very few people care about podcasting 176 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,000 or finding guests for their show. 177 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,000 Absolutely. 178 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,000 Absolutely. 179 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,520 In your opinion, whenever someone's going to show up to be a guest, what should they 180 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,800 be prepared for or how should they go about the preparal process? 181 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:35,800 Yeah. 182 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,760 So this is tricky. 183 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,320 And I think we found that there are people that treat it differently, treat their appearances 184 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,740 differently and come with different levels of preparedness. 185 00:09:45,740 --> 00:09:49,160 And so you want to find, you need to do two things. 186 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,920 One you want to try to weed out the people that aren't going to be professional or match. 187 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,920 They don't necessarily have to be professional. 188 00:09:54,920 --> 00:10:00,200 Maybe your show is about beer and maybe you're looking for someone different. 189 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,640 But is to prepare them for it and then try to weed out the people that aren't going to 190 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:04,640 be a fit for that. 191 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,080 And there are a couple of ways you can do that. 192 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,960 So first of all, ahead of the show, send them what your expectations are. 193 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,160 So say, find a quiet space. 194 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,640 I mean, it's amazing. 195 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:18,120 I've heard of people getting calls in from people who are driving in their car and they're 196 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,960 calling in to record a podcast. 197 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,400 Or my wife had a situation where someone's like, yeah, I'm in the airport lounge. 198 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,240 I'm ready to do this interview. 199 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,560 She's like, no, that's not going to work. 200 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:30,160 So you need to set expectations with them. 201 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,680 Explain to them, quiet place, external microphone. 202 00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:36,520 Don't just use the microphone in your laptop. 203 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,520 Ideally, they have earbuds to help prevent echoes. 204 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,960 And then I like to also prepare guests with an outline of what we're going to talk about. 205 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:49,680 I don't necessarily give them the questions, but I say these are kind of the five things 206 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:51,120 we're going to talk about. 207 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,960 And I do give them the specific question up front if it's something they might need to 208 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:54,960 research. 209 00:10:54,960 --> 00:11:00,000 So I might say, how many new customers are on your platform this year? 210 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,080 Well, even if you ask me that about podcastguest.com, I wouldn't know off the top of my head. 211 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,000 So it's good to give that kind of question ahead of time so that they have the answer 212 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,000 that you're looking for. 213 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,680 And the other thing is weeding people out. 214 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:17,400 Ideally, you can listen to them on another podcast for at least a few minutes so you 215 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,280 can kind of see, OK, are they coherent? 216 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,480 Are they just pitching their own product or service which you don't want, that sort of 217 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:25,480 thing? 218 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:30,080 So do a little bit of that legwork up front to prevent those kind of disaster scenarios 219 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,080 with a guest. 220 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,160 Now, have you had any of these disaster scenarios? 221 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,160 I'd love to know. 222 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,240 You know, I've had a few where they get a little pitchy. 223 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,640 You know, they're like, well, let me tell you about my seven step process, you know, 224 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:41,640 and that sort of thing. 225 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:47,100 And so but, you know, out of the 400 I've done, there have only been a few. 226 00:11:47,100 --> 00:11:51,400 And then there have been others where the person just gets really nervous. 227 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,580 And I've had even people where during our pre-interview, they're perfectly fine. 228 00:11:55,580 --> 00:11:59,520 As soon as I tell them I'm starting to record, they just start, they lose their train of 229 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:00,520 thought, right? 230 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:01,520 And you can't do it. 231 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,040 Now, thankfully, podcasts you can edit, right? 232 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:09,800 You're actually able to stitch together a pretty coherent response sometimes from them. 233 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,560 But you know, I think that the biggest thing is as long as you set those expectations. 234 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:15,600 And I guarantee you, not everyone will read what you sent. 235 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,080 I've had plenty of people show up without headphones, without headsets, that sort of 236 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,480 thing. 237 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,400 But it definitely increases the odds that you're going to have a good recording experience 238 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,120 and then a good podcast. 239 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:31,040 Now, from your experience in being a guest on podcasts, what would you say is the best 240 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:37,440 way to maximize the experience of being a guest for your own show? 241 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,680 So you're saying when I'm on it, when I'm a guest on another show, how do I make sure 242 00:12:40,680 --> 00:12:42,200 I get the most out of it? 243 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,200 Yeah. 244 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,200 Or the other way around? 245 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:49,200 I encourage people to educate and give, give, give when they're a guest on podcasts. 246 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,400 So don't think first about what can I get out of this from a perspective of, you know, 247 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,760 oh, I'm going to get new clients or something like that, right? 248 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:01,120 Instead, can you educate the audience and make them think, wow, this is someone I want 249 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,440 to learn more from? 250 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:03,440 And I'll give you an example. 251 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:08,520 I was listening to a podcast called My First Million. 252 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,000 It's a pretty popular podcast. 253 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,240 And they had a guest on the show and I was listening, I was like, wow, this is great 254 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:16,240 information. 255 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,960 And at the end of the show, he said, hey, you know, if you like this podcast, what we 256 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,960 talked about today on this show, you'll probably like my podcast. 257 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,520 And then he name dropped his podcast. 258 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,760 And so I went and listened to that show, right? 259 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,000 So he got a new listener out of that. 260 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,120 If he had come on the whole time talking about either his podcast or his course or his book 261 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,800 or something like that, it probably would have turned me off and I wouldn't have listened 262 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,800 to all of it. 263 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:43,680 So, but it is good to have kind of that messaging for the end of the podcast, right? 264 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:44,960 What do you want to get across? 265 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,880 A lot of times a podcaster will ask something or there'll be a time that it makes sense 266 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,200 to insert your message. 267 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,640 I mean, earlier in this podcast, you asked me, what is podcastguest.com? 268 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:58,760 Well, obviously that helps get across what my product or service is right there. 269 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:03,120 But oftentimes having a free guide or something like that that you can offer. 270 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:08,160 So for example, on a lot of podcasts, I'll say, hey, I've created this free guide for 271 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,840 how to get booked on podcasts as a guest. 272 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:15,360 You can go to podcastguest.com slash guide and download that for free, right? 273 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,360 So that also gives kind of a takeaway. 274 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,680 And if people are like, hey, Andrew added a lot of value here. 275 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:21,680 I liked what he had to say. 276 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:22,840 I like to learn more. 277 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,080 That's kind of a way for them to take the next step, if you will. 278 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,360 What you don't want to do and what I had one podcastguest.com user reach out to me once 279 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,520 and he said, you know, I've been on 30 podcasts. 280 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,360 I haven't gotten a single client from it. 281 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:36,360 I go on these podcasts. 282 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,560 I talk about how, you know, what the products and services I provide, yet I still haven't 283 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:41,560 sold anything. 284 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,440 I'm like, well, that's kind of where you're going wrong, right? 285 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,080 You're going on and you're selling the whole time. 286 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,260 And it's a turnoff. 287 00:14:48,260 --> 00:14:49,640 No one wants to listen to an infomercial. 288 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:50,640 Right. 289 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,480 Listen to podcasts as infomercials. 290 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:57,540 I love everything that you said, because we had one of our first guests was Josh Elidge 291 00:14:57,540 --> 00:14:59,000 from Up My Influence. 292 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,600 And everything that you're saying kind of echoes what he was saying about how if you 293 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:07,160 show up and you're there to deliver value, you're actually going to get a better audience 294 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,840 than you would, like you said, if you're just giving them an infomercial the whole time. 295 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:11,840 Absolutely. 296 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,040 So they're knock on effects from that too. 297 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,560 You might get invited back on the show or someone's listening and they thought you had 298 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:18,560 a lot of value. 299 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,480 They'll invite you to their show and you never know who's listening. 300 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,880 That's the crazy thing about podcasting is you literally never know who's listening. 301 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,920 So now that we've covered from the guest perspective, what about from the host perspective? 302 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,040 How can they get the most out of having guests on their show? 303 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,040 Right. 304 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,400 So one of the, I think there are a couple of big benefits from getting a guest on your 305 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,200 show and one is great content. 306 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,200 Right. 307 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,400 So you get someone on who can educate, entertain your audience so that they'll come back and 308 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,600 listen to the next show or subscribe to your podcast. 309 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,600 The other thing is a promotion element here. 310 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,240 And this is the fact that that other person will hopefully help you promote your show 311 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:52,840 afterward. 312 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,680 And so there are a few things you can do here to make it easier for them. 313 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:57,680 Right. 314 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,080 I mean, you obviously need to email them after the show goes live. 315 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,000 I'm shocked at how many podcasters neglect to do that. 316 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,560 But email them, say, Hey, look, here's the link to the show. 317 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:13,280 I'd really appreciate you helping by spread the word on social media or your email list. 318 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:18,140 Or in the case that the guest told you upfront what they do, kind of reiterate, Hey, ahead 319 00:16:18,140 --> 00:16:21,080 of you coming on, we'll use Josh as an example. 320 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,040 I don't know what he committed to do, but you said that you send this out to your tens 321 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,220 of thousands of Twitter followers and this and that. 322 00:16:29,220 --> 00:16:33,200 Will you please go ahead and do that? 323 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,200 And then you can make it easier. 324 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:35,200 Right. 325 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,160 Here are some suggested messages or you go ahead and tweet it or Facebook it or Instagram 326 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,400 it and tag that person so they can just retweet it and share it and that sort of thing as 327 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:44,680 well. 328 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:50,640 So you're getting a little bit of that person's audience while also educating your audience. 329 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,640 To me, that's kind of the power of having great guests on your show and why a guest 330 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,000 format I think is so good for a lot of people. 331 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:03,360 And if you've ever tried to do a solo podcast, you know, it's a lot of work because you're 332 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:08,080 the one talking for 20, 30, however long minutes that your show is. 333 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,120 Whereas the guest is providing the content for you when you have a guest on your show. 334 00:17:12,120 --> 00:17:16,300 Yeah, it definitely saves a lot of time and energy because since they are providing such 335 00:17:16,300 --> 00:17:20,000 amazing content, you can kind of just sit back and coast. 336 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,920 You know, I mean, as the interviewer, you're just giving prompts, right? 337 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,180 You know, I've been on some interviews where the interviewer is talking half the time. 338 00:17:27,180 --> 00:17:29,560 That's not good, right? 339 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,400 And so, but yeah, it's so much easier. 340 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,960 I mean, you do have to prepare, right? 341 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,680 You have to know what you're going to ask. 342 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,920 You have to do some more work ahead of time. 343 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,400 But to me, it's a lot easier than doing solo episodes. 344 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,980 Well, one of the things you said that really stuck out to me is you said to send suggested 345 00:17:44,980 --> 00:17:48,820 messages for whenever you're asking them to promote the show. 346 00:17:48,820 --> 00:17:52,800 That is something that is just so genius and I'm totally going to steal it because I can't 347 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,600 believe I haven't thought of that myself. 348 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:55,600 Right. 349 00:17:55,600 --> 00:18:00,200 And you know, I mean, the goal is to just make it as easy as possible for them to promote. 350 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,200 Everyone's busy. 351 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,080 You know, they already did the interview. 352 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,680 Now you're telling them it's alive. 353 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,400 Sometimes it could be a month or two later, right? 354 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,680 I know some podcasts are interviewing lots of people and then there's a couple months 355 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:11,680 delay. 356 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,400 They might have even forgotten what, you know, specifically the podcast was about, right? 357 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,800 So the more you can help them, you know, make it easier so they don't have to say, oh, what 358 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,480 do we talk about specifically on that show, right? 359 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,680 Just make it as easy as possible for them. 360 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,960 Well, since you are an expert in the industry, I have to ask you what you what your feelings 361 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,960 are about how quote unquote saturated the podcasting markets become. 362 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:37,680 Now, in my opinion, I'm from the blogger world and and you know, blogging wise, there's like 363 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,040 five hundred what million or billion million. 364 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,040 Yeah. 365 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,040 At this point. 366 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,280 So there's less than three million podcasts at this point still, even though it's still 367 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,260 a growing market, there's still not that many out there. 368 00:18:49,260 --> 00:18:52,160 So what do you think about people saying, oh, it's too late. 369 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,240 I shouldn't start a podcast. 370 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:54,840 I've already missed the boat. 371 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,080 Well, you kind of answered part of that, right? 372 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,200 I mean, look at look at other media, right? 373 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,320 Look at blogs, you know, look at social media accounts, that sort of thing. 374 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,280 I mean, they're just millions and millions of YouTube channels. 375 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,320 Right. 376 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,320 So podcasts are a lot less crowded. 377 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,080 And I'd say even that three million number is really high. 378 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,440 If you look at the number of active podcasts that are published in the last month, it's 379 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,560 probably it's in the hundreds of thousands, not the millions. 380 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:20,560 Right. 381 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:21,560 So the number is much smaller. 382 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:27,400 But what is a challenge for people is that discoverability takes time and podcasting. 383 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:32,200 Whereas you might write a blog post and maybe it gets bumped up on Reddit or Google really 384 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,200 likes what you have to say. 385 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,600 And a lot of people are searching for it. 386 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,120 You can all of a sudden get a lot of traffic. 387 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:38,640 Podcasting is a more intimate medium. 388 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:39,640 Right. 389 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:44,220 You're asking for someone to listen for 30, 40, 50 minutes and they're not just going 390 00:19:44,220 --> 00:19:50,200 to find you through Google and some of these other search engines, mediums, media, that 391 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,340 sort of thing. 392 00:19:51,340 --> 00:19:52,900 And so it can take time. 393 00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:58,880 And so I tell people that I don't think it's over saturated, but you do need to come in 394 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,640 with the right expectations and the right goals as a podcaster. 395 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,320 And so a lot of people start a podcast thinking they're going to be the next Joe Rogan. 396 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,040 They're going to sell all these ads, that sort of thing. 397 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,640 And the odds of that happening, I think, are very slim. 398 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:17,760 In fact, I think selling ads is probably the least likely to succeed reason to start a 399 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:18,760 podcast. 400 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:19,760 Right. 401 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,200 I think there are other benefits to it that you should consider. 402 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:26,320 So for example, I know Josh Elitch has a podcast, right? 403 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,400 In each of those podcast interviews, he has the opportunity to talk to someone who will 404 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,920 also learn about him and become part of his network. 405 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,200 And shoot, maybe they'll become a client some other day, some day. 406 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,800 But they might also say when they're talking to someone else who's like, hey, I'm trying 407 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,880 to find someone to help me grow my business and make me into a thought leader. 408 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,360 I might say, oh, well, what about Josh? 409 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:48,360 Right. 410 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:50,960 You should talk to this guy, Josh, that I know. 411 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,640 So that's a benefit. 412 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:57,120 Of course, everyone listening to your show, you're reinforcing your brand here, the RSS.com 413 00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:00,120 brand. 414 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:05,000 In your case, having people on and educating them about how to get the most out of their 415 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,560 podcast, hopefully keeps them podcasting. 416 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,440 And so that helps them remain a customer for you. 417 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,680 So you're not necessarily getting, maybe you're getting some new customers who listen to this 418 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:19,480 podcast, but you're also retaining your existing customers by giving them good content and 419 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,920 value add, if you will. 420 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,720 I often tell people that are podcasting companies like yours, like, hey, why don't we do something 421 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,280 where I help your people get guests for their shows because then it's easier for them to 422 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,280 keep podcasting. 423 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,280 Right. 424 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,640 And so some of these relationships you make from these interviews can be really valuable 425 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:38,640 as well. 426 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,480 Well, and I mean, you never know what kind of a relationship you're going to build with 427 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,480 people. 428 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,800 I mean, some of my best friends have been on the show that I have of my own. 429 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,960 And it's because, you know, once you start talking to them, you start getting to know 430 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,200 them, you find out not only are they really cool people, but you guys have a lot in common. 431 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,200 Right. 432 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:00,680 I had someone who told me she had found a few guests through podcastguest.com and no, 433 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,600 she had been on a few podcasts through podcastguest.com over a month. 434 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:12,160 And she said, one of them, she wrote the foreword for their book based on that relationship. 435 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,960 Another one, they became really good friends. 436 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,880 And another one, they ended up having a business relationship. 437 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,000 I forgot who was a client of whom. 438 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,160 And that's just, you know, I mean, she wasn't necessarily selling something. 439 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,160 Right. 440 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,640 But it's just an example of what you can get the value you can get from being a guest and 441 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:29,720 then vice versa. 442 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:34,600 I think the biggest thing that we've kind of said here today is don't go on with an 443 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,600 expectation. 444 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,040 Go on trying to give. 445 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,040 Yeah. 446 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,480 I mean, if you go in with that attitude that you're there to give, you're going to be more 447 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,520 successful in the long run. 448 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,200 So I really think that's a takeaway message. 449 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,360 Now, obviously you're spending a lot of time going on podcasts. 450 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:52,360 You should have an end goal kind of in mind. 451 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:53,360 Right. 452 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:54,840 I'm trying to spread the word here. 453 00:22:54,840 --> 00:23:00,180 But if you treat each one as an opportunity to educate or entertain rather than to sell, 454 00:23:00,180 --> 00:23:01,880 you're going to be much more successful. 455 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:02,880 Yes. 456 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,400 My three pillars, anytime I'm a guest on a podcast is educate, inspire and connect. 457 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,400 I love it. 458 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,400 I love it. 459 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,000 Well, I got to ask you, where can we find you online? 460 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,160 I know we already talked about podcastguest.com, but where else can we find you? 461 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,160 Right. 462 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,840 So podcastguest.com is kind of my main thing. 463 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,000 You can find me on LinkedIn and social media. 464 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:28,200 And I also created a page specifically for rss.com users where we can feature your show 465 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,480 in our newsletter and you can kind of jump to the top of the queue. 466 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,800 And to do that, it's podcastguest.com slash rss dash com. 467 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,760 So r slash rss dash com. 468 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,280 Awesome. 469 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,000 Yeah, there's a form you can fill out there and then it alerts me and I'll put you at 470 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,520 the top of the queue. 471 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,520 We do require that by the time we feature your podcast, that you have at least 10 episodes 472 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,000 and you're in Apple podcasts at that point. 473 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,160 But hopefully, even if you aren't there, you can go ahead and submit it. 474 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,960 And then when you get there, we can feature you. 475 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,960 But yeah, that's a great way to connect. 476 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,560 Well, I've got two more questions for you and then I'll let you go. 477 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:12,320 The first one I got to ask you is, okay, as a podcaster yourself, what is something that 478 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,560 we haven't talked about in this episode yet that you really want to tell podcasters that 479 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,040 are listening? 480 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:22,760 Well, I would like to make my pitch for getting good cover art for your show. 481 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:28,320 And it's a pet peeve of mine because we put together these lists of podcasts every week, 482 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,840 twice a week, and a lot of them have really bad cover art. 483 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:37,280 And it's kind of like writing a book and then slapping a bag cover on it. 484 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,840 You want something that stands out and looks professional or at least looks in tune with 485 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,040 your podcast. 486 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,620 And I see so many bad cover art. 487 00:24:45,620 --> 00:24:48,680 And when you think about people scrolling through a phone looking for podcasts, they're 488 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,920 going to skip over ones that don't stand out to them. 489 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,280 So spend a little bit of money. 490 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,600 If you can, avoid the fibers of the world for that type of thing and hire someone who 491 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,120 specifically works on podcast cover art. 492 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:04,440 That's actually really solid advice. 493 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,800 Now, I'm curious to you, what is good cover art? 494 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,760 Like I know you said it needs to stand out, but what does that mean to you? 495 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:11,760 Right. 496 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,360 So you don't want to have small lettering. 497 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:15,120 You don't want to have too many words, right? 498 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:20,080 Because they're not going to see it on this little square as they're going down. 499 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,440 And you want the colors to kind of stand out. 500 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:28,820 Sometimes I'll get one that just has a mostly white background, which if you're not filling 501 00:25:28,820 --> 00:25:32,720 up all that, if you've got a little something in the middle, then it just looks like this 502 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,640 little thing rather than a big one. 503 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,680 So the colors should ideally pop a little bit, right? 504 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,840 So in some cases, like rss.com is a great logo that can be the basis for that. 505 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:49,120 It pops out color wise. 506 00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:53,200 For my show, I've used, it's jennyhdesign.com. 507 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,200 She does a wonderful job. 508 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,480 It is, I think it's 200 and something dollars. 509 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,040 So it is a little bit more expensive. 510 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,520 And I always tell people, get out there, start your show. 511 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,280 If you don't have the money to spend now, but then that would be one of the first things 512 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,340 that upgrade if you don't have a chance to get a good one to begin with. 513 00:26:09,340 --> 00:26:10,340 That's good. 514 00:26:10,340 --> 00:26:14,560 I like that so much because one thing that cracks me up is I sometimes see users will, 515 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:19,120 not even just with RSS, but with other podcast hosts as well, that their cover art is literally 516 00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:21,520 the logo of the podcast host they chose. 517 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,720 And I'm just like, come on, you got to give us something more. 518 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,720 Yeah. 519 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:33,840 I've seen that the worst I've seen is someone who drew on a piece of paper, they drew something 520 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:40,080 on here and then they took a picture of it with a camera and that was their cover art. 521 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,080 That's actually pretty funny. 522 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,080 I can't help that. 523 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,880 That's easy to say it was not great cover art. 524 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:46,880 Yeah. 525 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,000 And true story, as bad as it is, people do judge your podcast by your cover art. 526 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,000 Absolutely. 527 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,000 Absolutely. 528 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:59,240 And think of it kind of like a book cover, both in its utility and in design. 529 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:04,320 If you do go to a bookstore still, if you've stepped in a book, you see the shelf or at 530 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:09,120 the airport, the shelves, they all have these bold titles that grab your attention or a 531 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:12,640 graphic that grabs your attention and that's what you want to do. 532 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,640 Absolutely. 533 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:14,640 All right. 534 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:15,640 Last question. 535 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,920 I ask this to everyone before I let them go. 536 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,920 What's one question I didn't ask you really wish I had? 537 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,320 I wish you would have asked. 538 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,920 This is another thing kind of in the same same area, but that is which type of microphone 539 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,960 to get. 540 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,200 And the key here is you don't spend hundreds of dollars, but buy a dynamic microphone as 541 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,320 opposed to a condenser because what it's doing here is it's capturing just your voice. 542 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,800 It's not capturing everything around you. 543 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,000 And my dog was barking earlier on this episode. 544 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,080 You could hardly hear her in part because I'm using a dynamic mic that's not picking 545 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,480 up everything around me. 546 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,400 Ah, such solid advice. 547 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,440 And I kind of have a little bit of a mic envy right now, so I'm going to have to go get 548 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,440 myself a new one. 549 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,480 Well, Andrew, I just want to say thank you so much. 550 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,240 Everyone needs to check out podcastguest.com. 551 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,280 We're going to leave all the links to this amazing stuff he's been sharing down in the 552 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,480 show notes. 553 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,280 And I guess that's it for now. 554 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,560 And I just thank you again. 555 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,560 Really, this has been awesome. 556 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,560 My pleasure. 557 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:15,560 Thanks for having me on the show. 558 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:16,560 Thank you. 559 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:22,200 Well, my fellow podcasters, we hope you enjoyed the insights, tips and ideas shared in this 560 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,200 episode. 561 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:28,440 To learn more about launching and growing your own show, head over to rss.com backslash 562 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,440 blog. 563 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,760 And if you're ready to launch a podcast of your own, you can get started for free with 564 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,800 your first episode on us. 565 00:28:35,800 --> 00:29:00,800 Thanks for tuning in.