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But the fact that just since like the pandemic, like, um, it's, it's just blown

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up, like just watching it in the last two years has just been absolutely insane to me.

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So what would you say to, to a beginning podcaster today?

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Um, if they're about to launch right now, what do you think they need in

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place to get started with the show?

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I think what they need is I think people think they need a lot of things

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before that they start.

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One thing I've noticed about humanity actually is that we are very quick to

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talk, to talk ourselves out of something that we want to do.

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So if you, so, you know, you know, the whole mentality work, I'm going to go to

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the gym tomorrow and when you wake up, it's tomorrow and you don't go to the gym.

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Right.

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You've got to have yourself prepared with some statements to counter that.

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Right.

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Like I go through it every day.

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I wake up, I'm like, yo, I got to go to the gym.

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And then my voice is like, just sleep another 10 minutes, text your trainer.

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He's going to kill you, but just text him.

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Um, yeah, I, I've texted him and I've seen the consequences, but you forget

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about that when you're tired, right?

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So what I did, did was I kind of come up with like a counter in my head.

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Like you always feel better, Ginny, when you go to the gym and that's, and it's

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true and it always has proved to be true and kept me consistent.

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So you're starting out with a podcast, really think about why you want to create one.

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All right.

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Is there a topic that you're so passionate about?

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Have those thoughts in your head?

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Cause that's what's going to propel you forward.

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All those thoughts about I can't do this.

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Who am I to start a podcast?

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This is too hard.

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That's just another obstacle that you're going to have to jump over.

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That's going to tire you if you don't have some positive tenacity

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powering you through, right?

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So really make that your focal point.

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And the other thing to Google is like, okay, um, you can Google how to start a

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podcast and that sort of thing, like Ginny media, my company has all these guys

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about that too, but Googling microphones can be quite overwhelming because there's

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2 billion searches, right?

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So just, you know, like there's a lot of resources out there online, put

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some time into some research, look for a decent mic, cause that's really

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going to be the difference between a quality podcast to a decent quality

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podcast, like that's the quality factor or the quality variable.

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Um, and I think what I learned too is sometimes, uh, doing things by yourself.

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If you're that type of person who, you know, gets a gym membership for a

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year, but doesn't really go to the gym.

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Chances are you probably need what's called an accountability person.

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So bring someone along with you on the journey that's going to keep you accountable.

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I'm that person.

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I will have a gym membership.

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I won't go, but if there's someone there yelling at me, threatening

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to beat me up, I will be there.

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So that's the kind of person that I am.

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So apply those same mechanics or mentality to starting a podcast too.

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It sounds, it can sound really overwhelming, but these are the things

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that are actually going to keep you accountable to get to your goal.

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Um, and this is also why I started my program with and co-founded it with

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Michelle Sorrow, the podcast accelerator, because there isn't an element of

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accountability that comes with launching a podcast, which is super helpful.

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And that gets you across the line.

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So just to summarize, actually, what I said was your mindset is super important

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and a microphone, the two Ms, M and M.

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Oh, I like that.

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Microphone.

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I like that a lot.

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And the, and the reality is, you know, one of the things that held me back for

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so long is I was afraid of, like, I had the fear of failure.

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I had the fear of no one's going to listen to me.

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I had the fear of, you know, well, what if I say something stupid?

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And finally, one day I was just like, you know what, if I just treat this

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like an experiment app, then, then if I, if I mess it up, so what?

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Because the reality is it doesn't cost that much to buy your podcast hosting.

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It doesn't cost that much to, to purchase a decent microphone.

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Um, yes, you can go and spend, you know, five, 600 bucks on, on the, the

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fancy schmancy stuff or a thousand dollars on a soundboard or whatever.

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But I mean, I'm sitting here with, um, a blue Yeti microphone that I think was

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like $199, but there's cheaper ones even there's like $60 microphones

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that sound pretty decent.

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So it's kind of one of those things where it's like, if you're afraid, just

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do it anyway, do it scared because you first need to even know, do you even like this?

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Like just try it.

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Cause what if you exactly, what if you find out you absolutely love it and

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then you just become kind of addicted to, to, to talking.