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Whenever you first started at, with the in-person conference, how did you start getting people

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interested in it and drum up the enough to attendees to make it a full-fledged conference?

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In the beginning was easy because no one knew anything about podcasting.

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So it was a hot topic.

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So then we got a hundred people the next year.

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We said, you know, we should invite all our friends like Jessica Kupferman and all these

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other amazing people from all over the country.

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And they flew in.

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And then when we moved it to Orlando, that really helped us grow.

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So what we've always focused on is on our community and their needs.

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So for instance, our closing keynote is the community itself.

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We start, we close it out with a gratitude ceremony where people will tell us what they're

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grateful for up on the main stage.

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We have a hands-on experiential learning hall that we added this time around.

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So we have three tracks where you could learn any editing software, how to use Canva.

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So literally you bring your laptop in and thanks to the podcast editors for helping

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us put that together.

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Mark Deal and Steve Stewart.

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And then we have, we're going to have a job fair for our companies that are in a trade

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show that could hire people with these specialized skills, as well as the people, the podcasters

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that need to add teammates.

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So we're always thinking about how can we create value for our community?

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And that's what we're always doing is adding that value back.

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And then we have 10 tracks.

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We'll have over 500 speakers at Podfest in May.

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So we're, we're full bore.

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We also created the first ever Amazon live conference for Amazon live creators.

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We found that a lot of video streamers all want to start podcasts.

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So it's a really great synergy for Podfest.

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Now is the conference also going to be virtual as well this year?

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We will have a virtual pass.

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The virtual track, the way it works is we actually have a room at Podfest that is set

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up and we take some of the best of on the floor and we invite those presenters to come

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up and they will teach through the laptop, which is more conducive to virtual learning

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and then people could join virtually.

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And we think that's going to be a much better learning environment.

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So it's going to be interesting.

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So we're not just streaming what's in the room.

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We're going to take someone, they're going to be on their laptop showing and talking

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to virtually chatting with you in real time.

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So we have a room dedicated for the virtual component.

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Wow.

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I mean, that sounds like a lot of work.

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It's a lot of work, but it's the, we always ask ourselves, how would we want the information

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delivered and how would we want it delivered?

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And I think that's why we attract creators from all over the world that feel heard because

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we listen to their feedback and we make sure that we deliver it in the way that they want.

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Do you have a favorite experience that you've had at your, at your conferences?

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I mean, the gratitude ceremony is, I don't know if there's anything else like that.

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Hearing people's, I remember last year, two years ago, time flies.

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I remember Maxwell Ivy, he's the blind blogger.

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I remember him going up during the gratitude ceremony and saying, we give out a treasure

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map that you could, it's a physical piece of paper that you could get signed by the

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exhibitors this year.

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I think we'll have virtual and physical, but anyways, I forget that he cannot see.

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So how is he going to get it signed?

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And what happened was each and every exhibitor took them by the hand to the next exhibitor

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and his entire treasure map got signed.

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And he shared this up at the gratitude ceremony that at pod fast, everybody's his friend and

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everybody took care of him.

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To me, that's the ethos of our entire community.

