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I am young, but I got started in business in 2017.

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Tell me a little bit about that.

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So you started basically in high school.

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Yeah.

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Well, you know, funny enough that we're doing a show for podcasts, right?

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Like RSS, like that's awesome.

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Um, one of my first ever ventures was having a podcast and I was this kid.

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I was going through some issues at home.

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Um, you know, I don't come from money.

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I came from a single parent household.

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I watched my mom work really obnoxious shifts at Taco Bell and, um, you

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know, she would come home at night.

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And I mean, it was great getting free Taco Bell at the end of the day, but

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it's like, I can barely see her.

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And so I was raised by my grandmother a lot in my early years.

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And, uh, you know, late, she later on got remarried and, and, you know,

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whatever you bring in another adult, another father figure that can oftentimes

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lead to animosity, chaos, hard feelings, tension, stress, et cetera.

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And that's exactly what happened with me.

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And, uh, amidst those troubled times, I fell in love with the, the idea

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of entrepreneurship, like finding a business because up until that point,

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I was a great student, straight A's.

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I had one C in my life.

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And the moment I got that report card that said C plus or C minus, it was like

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end of the world, I had to go to school to get a tutor.

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Like I had to stay after.

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And, um, I never got a C in my life again, but at the end of the day, my mom said,

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go to school to get good grades, to get a scholarship.

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And I was one SAT test away from that.

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But I saw her not using her own degree because she later on got her master's

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in business and I'm like, you're not even using it.

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So, and I love her to death.

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I'm not speaking down about her, but I saw that combined with these young

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20, 22 year old kids making $10,000 a month, traveling, doing things that nobody

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in my life and my family had ever done before.

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And I saw that as a way to, you know, jump in and do something different,

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do something new.

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And so my senior year of high school, um, I took some of those entrepreneurial

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tendencies that I had.

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I was a kid who had the idea of running my own pin company.

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I had a lawn business, a couple of different things when I was younger.

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And, um, it wasn't until 2017 when I finally was able to define what exactly

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I was and what exactly I did.

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Well, you know, Leah said it best, age ain't nothing but a number.

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Well, yeah.

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Yeah.

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But I actually liked the fact that, that you started in high school because it

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definitely speaks to the way that things are now that it's not just about you go

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to school and then you go to school again and then you get a job and you stay there

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for, you know, until you get the gold watch, it's very much a gig economy.

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It's very much a, the entrepreneurs are the ones that are basically

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paving the way right now.

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And so I think it's perfect that, um, that you started that way.

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So now you mentioned that you, one of your first ventures was actually

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podcasting and you podcast now.

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So why did you start your podcast and, um, how do you promote it?

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You know, my first ever podcast was called the Isaac Mashman show, and I scrubbed

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the internet clean of it.

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You can only find one episode of it right now.

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And that was when I re-released it with my current podcast, Chase the Vision

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with Isaac Mashman, but I launched it.

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I don't even know quite why, why I launched it.

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That was during the period where Alice Bodding's other entrepreneurs who had

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strong personal brands and starting to reverse engineer what they did.

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You know, some of the people that I've started following, they got on Twitter

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first, so I started a Twitter account.

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I started building Twitter.

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I saw that they had a podcast and I'm like, well, they did it.

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So why can't I do it?

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And now the production sucks.

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It was a very rocky beginning, but I would be in computer class editing my

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audios on, on a free Audacity download.

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And to this day, I still use Audacity because why not?

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Or I have my, my head of audio, um, edit the episodes, but it started out

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sharing it with my friends at school.

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I mean, I remember getting screenshots from my friends at the time, listening

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to my podcast in the car and I'm like, all right, this is kind of cool.

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And then from there, I kind of latched onto that emotional feeling of, okay,

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I'm doing something and other people are engaging with it.

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This is kind of cool.

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Is this scalable?

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And then from there, that's when I started to build out my personal brand online

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outside of just my free group and, you know, starting to connect on LinkedIn

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with more people and Twitter and build out my audience and continue that content creation.

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So the podcast that you have now, did that start before or after

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you began the branding company?

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So, um, chase the vision with eyes of magic.

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So, um, chase the vision with eyes of mashman ash actually was launched in

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2019, an entire year almost before I launched mashman ventures and I've incorporated that.

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Now mashman ventures is a public relations firm, but it had a couple of

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different iterations actually prior to getting incorporated, it went from being

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mashman media and then I was like mash coaching and I was like mash ventures.

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Because I wanted to do something that I was going through this evolutionary

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process of I want to do something that is scalable and also something that.

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It has not been done before or isn't easily duplicatable because I see a

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lot of these other entrepreneurs that focus on a couple of different services,

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couple of different business models.

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And I'm like, I don't want to put myself in a box.

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I don't want to, I don't want to put myself in the only field of media.

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I don't want to put myself only as coach because I'm not a coach.

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And so actually if you go to my Twitter account for mash ventures, you'll see

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that it was launched and created in 2018, way before, two years before my company.

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Because the handle at the time was at mash vent media.

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And so it's been a really, really fun process.

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I know it sounds a little bit all over the place, but I think that sometimes

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when you're doing something that's never been done before, you don't have that

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firm path, that firm direction, that blueprint, so the speaker, that mentorship.

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It is going to be chaotic.

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And then from there, that chaos is going to bring about something that's great.

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And I think that's, that's what happened over the past couple of years.