1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,720 One of the things that you said that kind of struck me is you said that if you had known 2 00:00:11,020 --> 00:00:13,840 what you were going to face, the obstacles you were going to face, you might not have 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,080 actually gone through with it. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,200 I think that kind of speaks to the whole ignorance is bliss thing. 5 00:00:19,620 --> 00:00:24,880 But at the same time though, it feels like to me that one of the reasons why, you know, 6 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,040 you were able to fund it so quickly is at the time, like you said, you know, just a 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,440 couple of different conferences were kind of having tracks on the idea of podcasting. 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:34,800 You know, it was at New Media Expo. 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,720 It was mentioned at BlogHer, you know, BlogHer conference and things like that. 10 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:44,440 But there wasn't truly a space for people who are sitting at home alone talking to their 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,600 microphones to come out and get together. 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,400 So tell me a little bit about those first conversations, like those first, you know, 13 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,360 let's do a conference. 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:54,160 What was that like? 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,320 You and Dan, you're just spit balling with each other. 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,880 Like how in the world did you decide it would be an actual conference rather than just 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:01,520 another meetup? 18 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:02,320 Sure. 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,360 We had attended New Media Expo, which you mentioned, and we had met a lot of people 20 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:11,200 that were interested in podcasting and podcasting was a very redheaded stepchild, small 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,760 corner piece of that event. 22 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,680 But the number of attendees that were at that event, largely were interested in 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,440 podcasting. 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:25,920 And that struck me was, okay, here's people saying, why isn't there a podcast 25 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:26,560 conference? 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,720 And we hear that multiple times. 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,200 Like, okay, I thought that too. 28 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,720 That to me was an undeniable sign that there needed to be one, whether it should have 29 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,320 been Dan and I to start or, you know, is irrelevant. 30 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:37,800 We neither should be one. 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,520 We just kind of blindly jumped in and said, okay, let's go for it. 32 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:48,880 And that was a learning process to say the least, but we thought through as good as we 33 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,640 could, you know, we decided on Dallas for the first year. 34 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,600 And one of the reasons we picked that is because that is a one way flight for most 35 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,600 US cities in North America. 36 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,640 And so Dallas seemed to be central. 37 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,920 It seemed to be an easy place. 38 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,040 There's kind of two major airports. 39 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,080 There's Dallas, Fort Worth, and there's Love Field. 40 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,360 And so that's what we went with. 41 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:14,000 And then there was connections that we had from the podcast. 42 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,040 Like we'd interviewed people that had started other conferences and other niches. 43 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:19,960 And we had conversations with those folks. 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,840 We had a rapport with them, a friendship with them where we could say, hey, if you 45 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,280 were to start all over knowing what you know now, what would you do? 46 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:26,960 What would you avoid? 47 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:32,440 So we got some really good advice for people that were just very generous and gracious 48 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,920 with their time and charges consulting fees. 49 00:02:34,920 --> 00:02:38,320 They were just friendly to us and which I, which I look back now and I realized, man, 50 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,640 that was a gift and we've certainly tried to pay that forward over the years. 51 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:47,840 But it is interesting now that there were several years down the road and there's, 52 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,160 there are a number of podcast conferences now. 53 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,120 And it's funny because all, all the people that have gone off and started these podcast 54 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,000 conferences are people that have come to podcast movement. 55 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,080 We just got a laugh at that. 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,040 I was like, they're like, Hey, I could do this. 57 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,520 And then they go off and do their own version of it. 58 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:09,400 So this is creating more podcast conference opportunities, which isn't necessarily a bad 59 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:16,000 thing, but podcast movement kind of was the first one really to be inserted in that spot. 60 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:21,440 And so I don't, you know, we don't necessarily look at these other events as bad or 61 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,000 competition or anything like that. 62 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:29,280 We're pretty established at this point, but it is fun to see how podcast movement has 63 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:34,240 added impact, not just in podcasting, but also in events for podcasting as well. 64 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,800 So yeah, it's a lot's happened. 65 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,080 So it's truly become a movement. 66 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,440 Is that why you chose? 67 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,320 So some say that some don't. 68 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,320 Yeah. 69 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,320 The name movement, I've always loved that name. 70 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,320 I remember in high school, there was a band, I grew up in Alabama. 71 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,840 I grew up in the South and there was a band called far South movement. 72 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,320 I always thought that was a cool name. 73 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,480 And then when talking to Dan about names for the event, there were so many names that 74 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,880 were just played out and we're like, we don't like that. 75 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:04,880 That's cheesy. 76 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,880 And we both, this is an interesting fact, not many people know about us, but Dan, I 77 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,120 both grew up wrestling fans. 78 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,120 Dan was actually once a professional wrestler, by the way. 79 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,520 And we loved wrestling. 80 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:23,520 And at the time there's a wrestler named Daniel Bryant, who was doing this, this yes 81 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,800 chant and he would get in the ring and he would just raise his hands and the crowd would 82 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:28,800 just go crazy. 83 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,440 They'd say, yes, yes, yes. 84 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,800 And I guess WWE coined that the yes movement. 85 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,120 And we were having a conversation one day and we started talking about that. 86 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,120 And then there was like, Hey, we should go to the event. 87 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,400 And there was like, Hey, we should call it podcast movement. 88 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,120 And we're like, yeah, that's, that's it. 89 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:46,800 That's the name. 90 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:50,240 So with that, I wish there was a better story of how we came up with it, but that's 91 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,040 how we came up with it. 92 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:51,320 So 93 00:04:51,320 --> 00:05:12,320 I actually love that story though.