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Since it is applicable to one's fan base, what would be your first tip for if

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someone's trying to build a community from their podcast listeners,

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where should they start?

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You know, the biggest thing I say for everybody is know your why.

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And I do talk about this in the book.

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I have two different whys.

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The first one is what is the purpose of your podcast?

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Why are you doing it?

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Is it convey information? Is it to talk about your passion?

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Do you just love romance books and so you want to talk about romance

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books all the time and share your love with that?

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Or is it a business podcast where you're helping people grow and develop?

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So what is your why?

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And I always use the example of Florida Swim Network.

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We thought we were in the live streaming business.

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We thought that we were live streaming swim meets.

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Really we were.

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But what we were actually doing was connecting families.

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We were allowing the mom in Afghanistan that was serving overseas to get up in

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the middle of the night and watch her son swim live here in Florida.

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And not only that, she was in the chat room talking with me as I was

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commentating the swim meet to be able to give that shout out to her kids.

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Hey, Will and Lane 4, your mom's watching from Afghanistan.

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She said to go fast.

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And then when Will gets home after the meet and he's watching himself on the

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replay, he hears that and he knows mom was there and we're connecting those families.

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So that was our why.

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So the first thing I always tell anybody is understand your why.

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Why are you doing this?

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Because that's going to be the basis of everything you do to promote your

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community, your listenership.

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So once you know your why, why you're doing it, then you have to decide, well,

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why are people going to listen to me?

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And so there are three reasons really why anybody joins a community.

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And the first one is needs.

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All right.

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So think basic needs.

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Are you providing a service that they absolutely need?

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For example, I use Tom's shoes as an example.

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He provides shoes for your feet.

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Everybody needs shoes.

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And it is the basic need that we have.

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Unless you're me who goes barefoot in Florida all the time, but you know, it's a need.

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Or are you providing a want?

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So a want would be like Peloton.

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You may want a Peloton.

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Doesn't mean you can afford one though.

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You can very easily just work out or ride a bike outdoors.

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So a want is more of an ego stroke or a luxury need.

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So you have your needs or your wants, or are you providing the third reason

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people might join a community is that continuing development?

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Are you helping them grow?

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Are you providing health and wellness information?

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Are you providing business tips for them?

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Are you helping them grow?

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So if you can meet through your podcast, one of those needs, a need, a want, or a growth.

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And ideally you do all three.

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It's possible to do more than one.

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Then you have the recipe for a winning podcast that people are going to want to listen to.

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And they're going to want to join your community because they're

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getting something out of it.

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So it sounds like you just gave us the secret sauce to actually building a community with a podcast.

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Part of it, part of it.

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You have to though, then have to, once you understand all that, then you have to execute

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with the messaging that you do and you have to make sure your timing is right.

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And there's all sorts of factors that go into it, but if you can start with those first

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your why, and then those three basic reasons why somebody joins a podcast or listens to

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a podcast, you're definitely on the right road.

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You're definitely on the right road.

