1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,000 And what amazes me the most about y'all's story is that you didn't even meet in person 2 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:18,480 until just, wasn't it just this year that you guys just met for the first time in person? 3 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,240 Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous. 4 00:00:21,240 --> 00:00:29,440 But between COVID and between, you know, other intervening obligations and things, it just 5 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,240 worked out that we met for the first time at podcast movement in Nashville of this, 6 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,720 you know, August of this year. 7 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,680 So Alberto was, you frequently would say, you know, I don't even know how tall you are. 8 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,840 You know, we're always sitting down. 9 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,460 We do our voice chats. 10 00:00:43,460 --> 00:00:47,400 You know, frankly, to me, that was not a hindrance in the least. 11 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:52,880 You know, I've, you know, in my work, there were occasions when, you know, it was all 12 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:58,720 video conferencing and it felt very comfortable to go into this role. 13 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:08,480 Alberto's work ethic and, you know, manner is just so easy to trust and to understand 14 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:13,840 in the sense that I understand culturally, you know, just as well as probably any, you 15 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,220 know, American from Texas could. 16 00:01:16,220 --> 00:01:22,520 And I think, and his wife is American and I, you know, she's a United States born and 17 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,960 raised and so I think he understands me very well too. 18 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:29,080 So it just, it was a very comfortable fit from very early on. 19 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,280 And so I didn't ever feel like not meeting was a super big hindrance, but it was nice 20 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,280 to finally meet. 21 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,500 Well, I have to say whenever I met you guys, cause I actually had the honor of getting 22 00:01:38,500 --> 00:01:43,280 to meet you guys at podcast movement this year and watching you guys interact, you would 23 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:44,280 think you guys were old friends. 24 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,360 You've known each other for decades. 25 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,720 And so it was really cool to see that even though you guys built a company and completely 26 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:55,280 different continents, you had your kindred spirits in some respects. 27 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,520 Yeah, I'd agree with that. 28 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:58,520 Yeah. 29 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,020 Then there is also, there is something to add there. 30 00:02:01,020 --> 00:02:04,760 We didn't meet each other, not because we were on two different continents. 31 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:10,540 For example, I go often to the States, but I would say that after the first few months, 32 00:02:10,540 --> 00:02:14,440 we were well-oiled as I could say the same thing that Ben said. 33 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,120 I could say the same thing for Ben, you know, it was very easy to work with. 34 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,080 There is affinity, definitely empathy. 35 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,080 It's very clear. 36 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,480 It's very clear that we have objectives. 37 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,720 We are aligned. 38 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:32,480 So there were a couple of occasions before COVID where we wanted to fly to see each other, 39 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,520 but it was very tight schedule. 40 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,380 So we didn't end up doing that. 41 00:02:36,380 --> 00:02:37,380 And then COVID hit. 42 00:02:37,380 --> 00:02:41,520 So that's why it took really three years, but actually we're very comfortable because 43 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,500 we set up a company, which is remote first. 44 00:02:44,500 --> 00:02:48,820 So we have all the tools to really be in touch and literally in real time. 45 00:02:48,820 --> 00:02:51,600 And we actually cover almost 24 hours on the globe, right? 46 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,760 Between people who go to sleep and people who wake up. 47 00:02:53,760 --> 00:03:21,160 So it's very interesting.