And what amazes me the most about y'all's story is that you didn't even meet in person
until just, wasn't it just this year that you guys just met for the first time in person?
Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous.
But between COVID and between, you know, other intervening obligations and things, it just
worked out that we met for the first time at podcast movement in Nashville of this,
you know, August of this year.
So Alberto was, you frequently would say, you know, I don't even know how tall you are.
You know, we're always sitting down.
We do our voice chats.
You know, frankly, to me, that was not a hindrance in the least.
You know, I've, you know, in my work, there were occasions when, you know, it was all
video conferencing and it felt very comfortable to go into this role.
Alberto's work ethic and, you know, manner is just so easy to trust and to understand
in the sense that I understand culturally, you know, just as well as probably any, you
know, American from Texas could.
And I think, and his wife is American and I, you know, she's a United States born and
raised and so I think he understands me very well too.
So it just, it was a very comfortable fit from very early on.
And so I didn't ever feel like not meeting was a super big hindrance, but it was nice
to finally meet.
Well, I have to say whenever I met you guys, cause I actually had the honor of getting
to meet you guys at podcast movement this year and watching you guys interact, you would
think you guys were old friends.
You've known each other for decades.
And so it was really cool to see that even though you guys built a company and completely
different continents, you had your kindred spirits in some respects.
Yeah, I'd agree with that.
Yeah.
Then there is also, there is something to add there.
We didn't meet each other, not because we were on two different continents.
For example, I go often to the States, but I would say that after the first few months,
we were well-oiled as I could say the same thing that Ben said.
I could say the same thing for Ben, you know, it was very easy to work with.
There is affinity, definitely empathy.
It's very clear.
It's very clear that we have objectives.
We are aligned.
So there were a couple of occasions before COVID where we wanted to fly to see each other,
but it was very tight schedule.
So we didn't end up doing that.
And then COVID hit.
So that's why it took really three years, but actually we're very comfortable because
we set up a company, which is remote first.
So we have all the tools to really be in touch and literally in real time.
And we actually cover almost 24 hours on the globe, right?
Between people who go to sleep and people who wake up.
So it's very interesting.