1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:11,280 It's so wild to me though, because it sounds like when you started RSS, podcasting wasn't 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,120 even on your, well, I mean, it was on your radar in the sense that, like you said, it 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:19,520 wasn't new, but it wasn't that you purchased RSS in the hopes of starting a podcasting 4 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:20,520 company. 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:21,520 No, not at all. 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,840 I mean, it was to save, save feed reading and feed readers. 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:32,400 I'm a news obsessed person and that's where my mind was, is news consumption. 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:39,440 And if everybody stops using RSS, it stops supporting it on their websites and blogs, 9 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:45,200 like my, I was definitely going to lose out. 10 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:50,960 I love staying current on news and I just couldn't imagine a world where that wasn't 11 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,760 happening or where it was happening inside a Facebook feed. 12 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,880 Like it just didn't work for me. 13 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,760 So, but yeah, podcasting wasn't on my radar at that point. 14 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:09,560 And on my end, basically I was building and maintaining this project, it's podcast generator 15 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,120 content management system for free, you know, as a hobby. 16 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,200 I didn't really monetize it. 17 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,680 And you know how many times during the years, during the 13 years I've been working on it 18 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:24,080 for free, basically on the spare time, how many times I thought, man, I don't have, I 19 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,760 don't know if I should continue. 20 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,440 But then people would drive me like, oh, it's not working. 21 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,920 It's not compatible with these, I don't know, with this browser. 22 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,880 So I kept feeling that people were using it and it had a certain impact. 23 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,720 So it's kind of serendipitous really how we got there because I could have stopped before. 24 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:47,900 I had the drive of continuing working to my project just because people were using it. 25 00:01:47,900 --> 00:01:49,760 So I knew there was a market fit. 26 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,680 Well, I mean, thank goodness that you did though, because if you had stopped, we wouldn't 27 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,960 have what we have now, which is this amazing platform for podcasting. 28 00:01:58,960 --> 00:01:59,960 Yeah. 29 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:05,200 Interestingly enough, the code base of Podcast Generator after the first year was completely 30 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,680 replaced with a new code base. 31 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,360 So meaning now there's no one line of code from Podcast Generator, but the first year, 32 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,280 this is what allowed our company to start with. 33 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,560 We literally use the Podcast Generator. 34 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,560 That's amazing. 35 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:20,560 That's absolutely amazing. 36 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,600 So now you kind of gave a little bit about what you were doing Alberto, but then what 37 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:29,040 were you doing at the time whenever you decided to purchase RSS? 38 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,800 Do you want to talk about that at all? 39 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:31,800 Yeah. 40 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,880 I mean, it's not secret. 41 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:40,520 So I'm an entrepreneur and have a degree from Brigham Young University in entrepreneurship. 42 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:46,640 I started my first business to put myself through school and moved to the Arizona, the 43 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:49,160 Phoenix, Arizona area. 44 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:54,720 And like most, if you know an entrepreneur, you know that their interests are varied and 45 00:02:54,720 --> 00:03:01,560 the common denominator is a problem to solve and a passion for that problem. 46 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:07,520 Living in Arizona, I had a tremendous amount of opportunities to do. 47 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:13,040 I feel like looking back, I'm kind of shocked at how much I did and how varied the things 48 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,040 were. 49 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:23,320 So I got my start in real estate in Arizona and worked during the buildup of the bubble, 50 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,160 so to speak, the real estate bubble that people are familiar with. 51 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:35,040 I was kind of at ground zero for the perfect storm for being involved in real estate development 52 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,080 from 2005, six, seven. 53 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:44,080 I got my master's degree in real estate development 2008 and had a front row seat to the implosion 54 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,360 and to what the effects were of a market downturn in real estate as well. 55 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,760 It was really interesting. 56 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:55,880 Right out of college, I had done some banking and so very familiar with some of the regulations, 57 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:02,400 rules and practices, procedures of how people interact on a commercial basis with banks. 58 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,520 And so I did some commercial real estate consulting. 59 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:15,800 And then I had an opportunity to partner up with some folks who were developing technology 60 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:21,960 out of the Army Corps of Engineers laboratory and taking patents that they were developing 61 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,800 and commercializing those patents. 62 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,600 And that was fascinating work. 63 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,040 It was right in the middle of the war in Afghanistan. 64 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:34,320 One of the partners was a two-star general at the time. 65 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:40,840 And we were working on stuff that felt very mission driven and exciting and environmentally 66 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:41,840 useful. 67 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:47,240 So this was like we had a trifecta of things we were working on that were environmentally 68 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:52,840 sustainable, beneficial to the environment and how those could be utilized in the Department 69 00:04:52,840 --> 00:04:57,680 of Defense, as well as supporting some other missions critical at the time. 70 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,040 And let's see that. 71 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:28,160 So anyway, that puts me that also.