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And there's a lot of nerves that come with it, like, oh, am I getting it wrong?

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Am I doing it wrong?

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And just the fact that, you know, even nine years later, you're saying that you're still

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evolving in how you're changing things.

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I love that.

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I think that's fantastic because I think one of the problems that I've seen is that some

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people they'll try to start doing systems and processes and then they feel locked in.

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They feel like, okay, well, I said I have to do it this way.

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So I have to do it this way.

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And so being able to adapt and change, it's brilliant.

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I absolutely love that.

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So I kind of feel like whenever it comes to having these things, you shouldn't wait until

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you have a few episodes in the hopper.

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You should go ahead and like immediately start acting on these things.

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Why do you think you should implement systems and processes from the very beginning?

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Time.

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Yes.

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That's what every podcaster, entrepreneur, human being wants more of is time.

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And systems are going to help you get that time.

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Otherwise you're going to be continuing to spin your wheels.

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And again, being up late on a Sunday night, trying to get your episode ready for Monday,

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like nobody wants to do that.

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And with systems in place, you're going to be able to create so much more freedom in

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your schedule.

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I hear all the time, like, no, I'm too much of a creative, like spontaneous person to

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do systems.

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Like that is a story you are telling yourself.

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I'm all about being creative and spontaneous and my systems allow me to do that.

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If I didn't have my systems, I'd constantly be, you know, the one working for my podcast

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instead of my podcast working for me.

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When I have the systems in place, that gives me the time to be spontaneous and to be creative.

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So I highly encourage people to flip the script on that because if you continue telling yourself

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that that's what systems are, they're always going to suck for you.

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And like, you're never going to get them in place because you have this vision of them,

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like ruining your creativity.

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I agree with that completely because it's kind of like instead of giving up control,

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you're getting it back.

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And that's what too many people don't seem to realize because I'll tell you right now,

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if I didn't have this script in front of me, I would have forgotten some of the questions

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already.

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There you go.

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So, I mean, so in fact, I actually took your idea of creating like a script template just

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so that I could make sure, okay, these are the things I really want to ask.

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These are the things I want to say and if time's permitting and things like that.

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And it's funny to me though that, yeah, you're right.

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Some people like they kind of butt heads with that idea, but that's what always leads to

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pod fading is they try to do it without a system.

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And the next thing you know, they are up, like you said, a Sunday and they have to release

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on Monday.

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And then they're like, okay, maybe this sucks.

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Maybe I should just quit.

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Yes, absolutely.

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Because at that point it becomes not fun.

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Yeah.

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It's like, oh, your TPS reports are due and it's Monday morning.

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Yeah.

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That's my little office space moment.