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This is a Wait Don't Do It podcast with your

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girl Nunu Paris and Rafi. Make sure to join us

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monthly at El Rey for Reggaeton Brunch. You can

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follow at Reggaeton Brunch DC for more details.

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We'll see you there, baby sotas. Mwah. Hi, beautiful.

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Oh, my gosh, we're back. It's video. It's here.

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Can you believe it that finally the season is

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back with video, no less? I mean, you are breathtaking.

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I just, that's why I had to, like, encourage

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us to do at least one video audio experience

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for our listeners, because everyone needs to

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experience the beauty that is behind the camera

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with New New Paris. It's just amazing. Likewise,

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with all this. Radiant energy from our hostess

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with the most says Raffi. It's still my favorite

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host reggaeton brunch all also the beautiful

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also the beautiful Beautiful. Yeah, do you get

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caught handsome by all the guys you go on dates

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with I would say I definitely get told that they

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like aspects of my face handsome I feel like

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I feel like I've never called someone handsome.

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I've always called someone cute. Like, so you're

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on apps and y 'all like, how y 'all flirting?

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Like, you're like, hey handsome. Yeah, I got

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hey handsome a lot, which makes me feel like

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I'm getting older. Because on Grindr, it's been

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hey handsome. As someone who used to be the hey

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handsome military gun shooter, I will say it

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throws me off a little bit because I'm like,

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oh, wow, I'm definitely leaning in more to daddy

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territory. Um, so yeah, those kind of like in

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person no one's ever been like, oh my god, you're

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so handsome I feel like it's more like cutie

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patootie or like cutie or stuff like that And

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y 'all know out there like it's it's me. So y

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'all know i'm trans. Um, so like It would take

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me out and i'm not gonna lie like I feel like

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there hasn't been a single point in my life where

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I feel like handsome You've never been called

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handsome, really? Even when you were trained,

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like, beard? It has always felt cringey to me.

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Like, I don't know why. It just has felt cringey

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as a boy. No, but you would definitely be called

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handsome if you were fully cis. Like, if you

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leaned, like... Okay, well, you're not gonna

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do drag for the next month, you said. So when

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you get your beard back, you would fall in the

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category of handsome. I want you to understand.

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First of all, you could be handsome and cut.

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but like handsome because like let's talk about

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it if you're a masculine presenting person but

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you are very like I guess like feeling that femininity

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inside you want to be referred to as beautiful

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are you beautiful I mean you technically can

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be beautiful beautiful there's a to me there's

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a way to me is beautiful sounds very like Feminine,

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but I've called boys beautiful, too. Boys are

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beautiful, but only at their bottom. Just kidding.

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Just kidding. If y 'all could not tell, we're

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talking about boys, but really like dating, right?

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We're telling y 'all what not to do when it comes

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to dating, the talking stage, all of that in

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the city. We have some amazing guests from this

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cool social app called InPress, which is really

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changing the scene of DC dating. And this was

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like important to us because we're outside, you

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know what I'm saying? Like, and we see how...

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Not only just for straight people. I'm not gonna

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talk about the straight people right now. I'm

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talking about just for the queer dating diva.

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It's crazy, right, Rafi? I mean, NuNu's been

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locked in for almost a decade now. So I have

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experienced the rawness of EC dating. It's trenches

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for sure. You know, comparatively, I think DC

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is worse, worse than my college experience with

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dating in a lot of ways. I feel like in North

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Carolina, people were willing to get married

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and that's like the goal. Here, the career is

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the goal. So I feel like it's twice. Right, right.

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Yeah, dating sucks, but I am a user on Impress

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and there's just a lot of aspects of it that

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I do appreciate. They kind of like take off the

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pressure of... Starting that first conversation

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because I am not good at flirting. I'm good at

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flirting in the moment I am not good at flirting

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If I'm caught off guard or about to initiate

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it I have to really like feel chemistry with

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you to flirt and I've never I've never felt flirtiness

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Through a text like I struggle with that so hard

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But I love a texture that knows how to text very

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funny very witty very very flirty. I love that

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but I'm usually like the person that's just like,

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you know, okay, what are we doing? Where are

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we going? Great. Can't wait to see you. I love

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flirty texting. You know, I, trust me, you love

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flirty arguing. You like flirty meetings. You

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like flirty interviews. Oh, no, no, yeah. Nudu

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is a flirt. Nudu is a flirt. Nudu is a flirt.

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She loves a man. If there's something that's

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Nudu gonna do, it's flirt. Because it's so fun.

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I think flirty is harmless, but I think it's

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definitely fly and just, you know, you know,

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just... pressing those buttons, saying those

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more cheeky words with people. I think it's just

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something interesting to do. I've seen Nunu flirt

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as a boy and a girl, and both experiences are

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highly entertaining, I highly suggest you do.

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Because she is on a mission. She is on a... And

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like I said, I'm single, and I've never been

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on a mission before. And this bitch... Well,

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now you know why you're single. Y 'all, because

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I want y 'all to know... Because... Y 'all have

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to want it. I think dating at the end of days

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about wanting it and you really do I really agree

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with that It's just like such a struggle sometimes

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because y 'all don't want it like you have to

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like Want to know and get the person and I'm

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talking to a person or play with a person I'm

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like, I want to see if I can get them to like

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a level that you know, oh, are you fucking no

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more you flirting with them? Underbelly like

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they're that raw I just want to see, like, what

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they're made out of. I want to see that real

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raw human. Because the truth is... Stay wise,

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bitch. It's for sport, for me. I'm not gonna

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lie. Because I don't give a fuck about these

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people. Because usually those people, when you

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get to that other side, they're broken, they're

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terrible. They have all these things that are

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with them. But I just want to get there and say

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I did it. Like, I could get you. I am a demisexual

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though. I love like wine and dine me before.

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Okay, cuz Demi Lovato was that bitch. Camp Rock!

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I still wear my Converse. No, I love a good conversation

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before. I hated just like coming over and like

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going straight to it unless there's been an established

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relationship before that. But I've never been

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the person to invite someone over and not just

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wanna like sit down and gauge the situation first.

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And I will say it saved me from a lot of bad

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experiences. Like I explained, like in this interview,

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I talked about that guy that told me, oh, I'm

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not into music. Girl, how are you not into music?

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That is such a red flag to me because A, you

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have no rhythm. B, it was such an insight to

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see that person didn't like music. They were

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like a math major. So they were like. We just,

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there was nothing that was like common ground

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for us to like have fun to. So there's nothing

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common ground in our sexual chemistry, you know?

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So I definitely think like, starting the conversation

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off first is very important. So does that mean

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you're a demisexual? I know that something that's

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really attractive to me is like definitely money.

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They give you trick in. She's a sugar sexual

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bitch. Because if you spin it then like, you

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know. Obviously, you're interested, right? Nunu.

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Where are my girls at? Where are my girls at?

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That's what I wanted to know. I think that several

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people out there would relate. And like I said,

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I think there is an energy source of someone

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that wants to be... You like to be a good girl

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when it comes to that stuff. Like, Rafi loves,

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I want y 'all to know, Rafi loves a regular ass

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person. Like, all that blue collar, white collar,

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whatever that, you know, whoever you are, background,

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Rafi loves that, y 'all. Like, Rafi does not

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discriminate. I love that. I love that heart.

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I love that, you know, blah, blah, blah. I'm

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not that girl. You didn't say anything positive

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in that past statement. No, it was positive.

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Like, you like regular people. You like every...

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That's crazy. I'm not saying you don't have standards.

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I'm just saying, like, if a dude was a waiter,

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you'd be okay. If a dude was a waiter, you'd

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be okay. If a dude was a celebrity, you'd be

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okay. You'd be okay. It's not about what the

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dude's doing. Oh, so you wouldn't date a waiter?

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Hell no. It is not even, like, shading the waiter.

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It's just, like, I have a lifestyle and a certain

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thing I like to... I have to live, unfortunately.

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You are here. And I could imagine... Nunu does

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live in, like, the deepest delusional world I

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watch out of now, right now. Because there are

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waiters that live like Nunu does. He wants to

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really... Absolutely. Absolutely. And, you know,

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if that waiter had a trust fund, absolutely.

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Come on. but I just can't be waiting alone. That's

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what I'm saying. No, I mean, I definitely am

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open to just like a good person for sure. But

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you know, if there was a truck driver right now,

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Raph would be on him, honey. Oh, I love a truck

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driver. Make him good money. I love a blue collar

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man. Fix the house. Fix the house, please. Because

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I'm not going to be able to do any of that. And

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I will never, no shame. But no, it's a great

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episode, y 'all. I'm really excited about this

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interview. We had a great time winning for us.

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Adam and Christina. Loved so many funny moments.

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Stay tuned for a messy little game to find out

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what's a green flag, what's a red flag, and what

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is a beige flag. Are you doing some of these

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red flags? Are you guilty? Nunu's definitely

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guilty of some of them. And Adam's definitely

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my green flag. Enjoy the episode. Impress is

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a news -based dating and friendship app that

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matches users based on shared intellectual interests

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revealed through engagement with curated factual

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journalism. It avoids superficial swiping and

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generic prompts by focusing on subconscious interests.

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It offers dating and friendship mode. involving

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compatibility metrics and a gamified news engagement

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system called InScore Levels is currently available

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in DC and NYC. And today we are joined by the

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CEO and co -founder of the product lead, Adam

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and Christine. How are y 'all? I'm so good. Thank

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you for having us. We are so happy to be here

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with y 'all. I mean, I've been on Impress for

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a couple of weeks now. I still have similar opinions

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on DC dating, but we can definitely... Sorry,

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we can change the entire diaspora of DC dating

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in a few weeks. We're trying our best. No, but

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I cannot wait to really get into this issue with

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other people that have experienced dating in

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DC, but in other cities as well. Because I think

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that people... I think DC really individualizes

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itself in the dating scene, but I feel like dating

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sucks everywhere. But of course, we're going

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to get into that today. Nunu, how are you doing?

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I'm doing amazing, Raffi. I think being in a

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big city, right, has its own unique challenges.

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And I think that's the perfect reason why Impress

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exists. So we have to get into the dating scene

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starting all the way from the beginning, all

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right, Adam and Christina? We're gonna go right

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to the talking stage. How does Impress work with

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this idea of the talking stage, like the very

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beginning of just trying to date in the city?

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Yeah, well, we found that, and you guys can correct

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us if you've experienced this yourselves or haven't

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experienced this yourselves, but we found that

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on dating apps, maybe breaking the ice can be

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a bit awkward, right? Because you basically swiped

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right into the ether, hoping that someone found

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you interesting or attractive enough to swipe

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right on you. I think you just kind of wait,

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right? Whereas what we're doing is we're basically

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identifying your weirdest and most wonderful

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subconscious interests. I'm finding out how you're

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compatible with others to show you that information

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up front hopefully giving people enough to do

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you see unfakable interest where they can break

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the ice more easily so showing them that they

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both like the same band or the same food or who

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knows the same you know. weird piece of art.

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The more you use it, the weirder it gets. And

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I like to tell people, if it's weirder, it's

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better, right? Because who wants the boring insights?

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We want to know the juicy stuff. Yeah, yeah,

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exactly. Love that you said that, not faking

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the idea. Because that's kind of what the talking

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stage is about, right? Like, thinking about how

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can I present myself in the best possible package.

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I love pretending to be a human being. I'm a

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Gemini, so I just, like, patter myself after

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whoever I'm around. Oh, you too, see? We could

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actually just take our call elsewhere. This is

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a call divided I can tell this could be a messy

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conversation already I think the question is,

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has dating always been this bad? Because people

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always blame dating apps. Do you guys think that

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dating has always been this challenging, or has

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technology really changed the game for us? Yeah,

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that's really interesting, because I think dating

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apps really came about in the 2013, 2014 era.

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And this was, frankly, when I was coming into

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college, and so I didn't have a ton of dating

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app experiences, so I can't talk about before

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that. But I do think throughout the years of

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like Hinge and Tinder and Bumble like all these

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different apps that are coming out people are

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just getting more and more shallow as time goes

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on and the options like the variety of options

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like people are just not settling down there's

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a million dates like I know people like stack

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updates like back -to -back, you know or like

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multiple times a week. So I think it's just a

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lot to handle. And unfortunately, we're not having

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this human connection as much anymore, especially

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after the pandemic, too. Let's add another layer

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to that, you know? Yeah. I get the multiple dates.

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You gotta get those free meals. I was like, this

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is how I ate for free for a whole month. And

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it was like, date, date, date. I was like, that's

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crazy. Literally. I actually love it with your

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hair down here, because it's... I personally

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am in a relationship, right? I've been in a long

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-term relationship. I'm going on nine years.

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And I met my partner on Tinder. So I spent two

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years prior on dating apps, trying all these

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things. And so now, you know, in the recent times,

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I have coworkers, right? I'm looking at their

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hinge and their Tinder. And you're right, Christina.

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The whole landscape has changed. And I'm like,

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how do you get past the talking stage? Because

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all these apps are just like, this is what I

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would do for a fun date or... Was the last time

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you've done this random thing and anybody but

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your impressed app is trying to take that that

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little middleman away Yeah, yeah contacts. Yeah,

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go ahead. That's exactly right. I mean literally

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took words out of my that's all it was we are

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trying to build How do I say this we project

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on social media right project on dating apps?

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Everyone wants to make it look how hot they are

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and how clever they can be in a one -liner Bible

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What does that really say about you, right? Like

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you can say anything whereas what we're trying

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to do is make it not just kind of trying to make

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it so that you can't really fake it, but you

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have a good time providing the data, in this

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case with news, for us to kind of build that

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profile about you that is unfakable. You're not

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just going to hand over this information if you're

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not seeing any immediate reward. You got to actually

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kind of make the journey fun, and in our case,

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educational. And that's why we're doing this

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with all factual information. But people be lying.

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That's what this is about. No, that's what I

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really do appreciate about Impressed is that

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you kind of really are connected with because

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I start I forgot what tier I made it But I didn't

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make it to like the fourth tier. What's that?

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What's that call? I know I was really I was really

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swiping honey. I was like working. What's the

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tier? You gotta explain slow down for us Ruffy

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beans. Oh, yeah. No, that's your ruffy catch

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it No, but you knew brought it up in her pitch

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in the beginning where the The more, well, I

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wake up every day and I like look through the

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articles. And as I do that, if I look at like

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three to four articles a day by like, I think

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like a second or fourth day, it told me I was

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what, an adventurer. So I definitely span, which

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I was like looking outside of my like normal

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news context, like a lot of things. Like obviously

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I looked through a lot of events stuff, which

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is... still what I look through. But I think

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I was reading about like, you know, how much

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would you weigh on this planet? Kind of articles

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too. And so I really like that. So I think now

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I'm what? What was level three, level four? You

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went from being an explorer to a thinker. Ruffy's

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officially a thinker. Oh, you heard it here first.

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Breaking news, honey. I can have my brain cell

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back. It just gets worse and worse because after

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this he graduates to an analyst, which gives

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him the power. Okay, okay. So yeah, there's goals

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here. But there's also the level, which I need

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to start getting into that side of more, which

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is the friends element. If you were on a dating

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app, what's the differences? How do you approach

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different conversations? Because back in my day,

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when I was on the friends apps on the sides of

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the other apps, I feel like people were still

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trying to... I feel like it was more direct in

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certain ways. And so I'm curious to see how y

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'all have experienced the friend side of dating

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apps. Christina, have you ever used Bubble BFF

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or anything? I actually haven't, no. And I have

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thought about it before, because I've moved into

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a couple of new cities, and each time it's a

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little bit difficult to make new friends. I know

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friends who have had success with Bubble BFF,

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but I also know a lot of people who haven't.

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They go on one friend date, and then it just

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kind of links. doesn't go into anything. Yeah,

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I'm thinking about like, I know people I'm not

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going to say any names, but who have no no, I

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say this, you know, in DC, no, no, no less who

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had, you know, friend groups that were built

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all around bubble BFF and They were kind of weird

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friends. I'm not going to lie. Like they weren't

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good for this person. They were like kind of

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just crazy. And it was just like, it wasn't like

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a healthy friend group to be around. And they

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all found each other there. And I think when

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I asked this person I'm very close with, how

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do they think that thought that had happened?

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They had said it was because they didn't really

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know. But again, same same thing, right? They

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really know much about each other. And I think

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about these friends matching apps. where it's

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still an equally, if not more awkward, cold pitch

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to make to a friend. And I've put myself in the

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position of like the quintessential just like

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straight white dude here, right? Like what are

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the most awkward group of people in the world?

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No social skills. It's like, what do they do?

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Hey dude, you look cool. Wanna get like a beer?

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What is that? It's an icky thing. So like, how

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can we make it so that like the thing that's

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gonna cut through that noise. for the friends

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and the dating is to just make it hyper personal.

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Like it's a lot easier pitch to be like, Oh,

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I don't know. You also like the same sports team.

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Like there's a game come up this week and you

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want to go watch it. It's just like, it's just

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more efficient. We are awkward people and dating

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apps are inherently awkward thing the way that

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they're popularized. So maybe you just got to

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make it more human, you know? Yeah. I think that's

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what I've noticed. Cause I mean, to me, there's

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to a certain point like Instagram is also a dating

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app. If you look at the same kind of situations

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you just explained, where you are putting on

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a persona, you're putting something that other

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people, that you find other people would find

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attractive, and then you kind of riff off like

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those basic connections. And then also those

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quick tags on all those dating apps too. They

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kind of just like are quick slow lines on what...

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you were interested in. But again, you probably

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just liked one thing one time. It's not like

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an in -depth reflection of everything. So I've

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definitely seen those things. So I will say,

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y 'all got me back on the dating apps. So that

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has definitely been confirmed. Yeah, you heard

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it here first. That's on the record. Right now,

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I'm editing that out in post. That's on the record.

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He's available, everyone. And looking, my question

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is, so we're in DC, right? And I know DC, we

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all love it and kind of hate it sometimes. What

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are the obstacles you all found in dating in

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a city like... DC that, you know, was the reason

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we started this app. Like what are the kind of

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major pitfalls to getting a successful relationship

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that you all have seen? So, okay. How do I say

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this? I think when I first moved, DC was my first

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city living in America in like six years. So

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I didn't really, I wasn't familiar with dating

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in the American dating scene. Little did I realize

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at the time. that it is not indicative of the

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rest of probably what it's like to date in America.

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So strange little atmosphere. Oh, it's crazy.

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You know, it's a transient city. Right. So I

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think like I think that inherently in the culture

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of dating in D .C., there is almost a more universal

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acceptance of transience in the communication

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and the consistency and the accountability. Right.

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Like like it's just kind of expected that I feel

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like probably the threshold and patience level

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is higher for ghosting in D .C. than in most

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other places. Right. Like people are just like,

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oh, you know, it's moving. It's probably not

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going to work out anyway. Everyone's got the

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super professional secret job, probably traveling

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to frickin Qatar or something, right? Not going

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to see him for three months. Same thing. I felt

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like I felt like that was probably the main thing

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for me. Also, man, there's not that many. There's

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not that many. All the scene restaurants that

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come out, there's just enough places for you

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to see all the same people. It's a big enough

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city. The thing is, it's the smallest city ever,

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but ghosting, like you said, is so common. And

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so you know you're gonna see that person out

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again. That's a messy moment. Have we ghosted

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someone before? Yeah, have y 'all ever ghosted

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someone? Oh, yeah, of course. That's a diva die.

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I'm like, you know what, yeah. No hesitation

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there. I don't think I'll listen to anybody,

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but I'm sure someone will come out of the woodworks

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and be like, no, girl, you ghosted me. I don't

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know. Same. I would say the same thing. I'm like,

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first of all, I feel like I've ghosted people.

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I've never ghosted someone that I feel like is

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going to be hurt by me ghosting. I feel like

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I've always tried to finish that conversation.

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But then you also get the vibe that this person

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probably is on the third date right now today

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also. And so ghosting. because it's just like

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y 'all completely just didn't find connection

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almost, you know? So I think people confuse those

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two. Yes, right. I think we're, like, generalizing

00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:25.160
ghosty a little bit much here, right? Like, I

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think Nunu and I are a little bit on the defensive

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right now. Right, is there... Like how best way

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to ghost someone? I feel like I'm in this day

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and age with dating apps. And hopefully, I also

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think if you're on a dating app, hopefully you're

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emotionally mature enough to be a human and,

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like, have difficult conversations that you can

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just be like, hey, I had a great time. on our

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date, really didn't see a future here, wish you

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the best, let me know if I can hook you up with

00:22:49.259 --> 00:22:51.380
someone else in the future. That would be a better

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match. We all want to find love, and we all want

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to find connection, hopefully, so let's just

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be real. Be FFR. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nunu,

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did you ever go someone nine years ago? I'm ghosting?

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I'm probably getting in trouble, right? I don't

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think it means you're a bad person. I don't think

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it means you're trash. I think it's part of it.

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Like, yes, when I was on apps, I talked to people.

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I got to texting right away from app to texting.

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And then you kind of talk and then it just, eh,

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and then it's whatever. And... I don't feel like

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I defined it. I didn't feel like I was trying

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to... Was ghosting a thing back then called ghosting?

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Back then, in the olden days, y 'all. I don't

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know why. I was feeling telegrams, the writing

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letters thing. Oh, my God. I saw your ad on the

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newspaper. Two cups and a string or something.

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So does Impress have anything built in to avoid

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ghosting or does it have prompts so that people

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can talk more or just naturally engage? Yeah,

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so you know, it's funny, I actually, so we have

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a feature that we're developing right now, which

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I will touch on, but I just want to preface this

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with, I didn't even think about this. I was prepping

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for this show that we actually have, I remember

00:24:01.859 --> 00:24:03.640
bringing this up to users in the past in the

00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:05.019
fall, like, hey, what would you think about like

00:24:05.019 --> 00:24:08.039
a, almost like a ghosting reporting function,

00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:09.779
and you're like, not like over time, it wouldn't

00:24:09.779 --> 00:24:11.779
be like one, like one time you're off the platform,

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but like after, you know, several, several recordings

00:24:13.779 --> 00:24:15.460
of this dude, just ghost people, or just ghost

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people, that they would get a warning or something.

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And honestly, the users hated it. They didn't

00:24:19.900 --> 00:24:22.460
like that idea. They came back, they're like,

00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:24.279
that's not really... Too much accountability.

00:24:25.220 --> 00:24:27.359
Maybe if you... I think everything feels too

00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:31.319
Black Mirror -y or something. But something else

00:24:31.319 --> 00:24:33.079
that we've done, which is... Well, we've actually,

00:24:33.140 --> 00:24:34.599
at least designed it, we need to actually develop

00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:37.799
it into the app, you know, startup life, is basically

00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:40.279
expiring conversations after 24 hours. If neither

00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:42.160
person responds, or if one person responds and

00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:44.019
the other person doesn't, that basically starts

00:24:44.019 --> 00:24:46.200
24 -hour clock. So that's to kind of be shown

00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:48.799
a mutual interest of action. in order to actually

00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:50.460
keep it going. Otherwise, it just goes away.

00:24:50.700 --> 00:24:53.039
It un -muddies the platform, and you can just

00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:54.779
kind of clean your hands of it. I think that

00:24:54.779 --> 00:24:56.380
what that does is it kind of motivates action,

00:24:56.599 --> 00:24:57.900
too, right? If the clock's ticking, you can see

00:24:57.900 --> 00:25:00.079
the clock ticking. Like, get on with it, you

00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:02.220
know? Yeah, I think Bumble, that's why I think

00:25:02.220 --> 00:25:04.400
a lot of women have told me that they like Bumble,

00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:06.559
is because it's on their terms in that kind of

00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:08.480
situation. Like, if you didn't feel it, honey,

00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:11.650
especially on Bumble... You'll be swiping on

00:25:11.650 --> 00:25:13.210
bubble and then you look at your matches and

00:25:13.210 --> 00:25:15.349
you're like, when did I swipe right? So it's

00:25:15.349 --> 00:25:16.829
good. Yeah. Get them, get rid of them as soon

00:25:16.829 --> 00:25:19.549
as you like see them. That's great. Oh, speaking

00:25:19.549 --> 00:25:21.750
of like these like special features, is there

00:25:21.750 --> 00:25:23.829
any other ways or there's something built in

00:25:23.829 --> 00:25:26.190
impress where you're like encouraging that communication

00:25:26.190 --> 00:25:28.529
or something that's unique to impress that other

00:25:28.529 --> 00:25:32.569
apps don't have? Love that question. It's actually

00:25:32.569 --> 00:25:36.579
something that we are building right now. And

00:25:36.579 --> 00:25:38.279
this hasn't been released yet, but whatever we

00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:39.940
talk about, we talk about it to investors, so

00:25:39.940 --> 00:25:41.279
I guess it's hot off the presses. It's not hot

00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:42.539
off the presses, it's not in your hand right

00:25:42.539 --> 00:25:44.700
now, but it will be soon, is we're basically

00:25:44.700 --> 00:25:48.140
building groups insofar as what Impress does

00:25:48.140 --> 00:25:50.539
is we can pretty much tell, based on how you

00:25:50.539 --> 00:25:54.240
think and feel about the world, if you're the

00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:56.039
most likely to be into something in the local

00:25:56.039 --> 00:25:59.019
area. Maybe it's DC United, maybe it's Break

00:25:59.019 --> 00:26:01.859
a Tone Brunch. whatever it is shout out to ruffy

00:26:01.859 --> 00:26:04.000
right i'm sure ruffy would be in the top one

00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:08.440
percent of reggaeton in dc so he would get basically

00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:11.119
a prompt after he rates articles or even in his

00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:13.000
leads and it'll say, hey, Ralphie, guess what?

00:26:13.700 --> 00:26:16.259
You're in the top 1 % of reggaeton brats lovers

00:26:16.259 --> 00:26:18.200
in DC. Do you want to opt into this group for

00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:20.660
the next 72 hours? And so this group is always

00:26:20.660 --> 00:26:22.859
there, but you get access to it in basically

00:26:22.859 --> 00:26:25.579
72 hour windows. And anytime there's an article

00:26:25.579 --> 00:26:27.440
or anything about, in this case, reggaeton or

00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:29.960
brunch, it gets automatically fed into that group

00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:31.819
to kind of keep the conversation going. And you

00:26:31.819 --> 00:26:33.119
can kind of like a WhatsApp group, almost like

00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:35.339
see who's in it. And my favorite part of this

00:26:35.630 --> 00:26:38.130
Is that this is a totally new take on pitching

00:26:38.130 --> 00:26:41.069
essentially in dating apps, which is every other

00:26:41.069 --> 00:26:42.349
dating app. You see someone you swipe, right?

00:26:42.410 --> 00:26:44.410
You hope they swipe right on you. But in this

00:26:44.410 --> 00:26:47.250
case, you already are among this kind of essentially

00:26:47.250 --> 00:26:49.569
interest elite group in the local area. You've

00:26:49.569 --> 00:26:51.569
both opted into being there and you're actively

00:26:51.569 --> 00:26:53.809
engaged in the conversation. You can actually

00:26:53.809 --> 00:26:56.109
see who's in that group and send them a match

00:26:56.109 --> 00:26:57.930
across right there. Like if they have dating

00:26:57.930 --> 00:26:59.269
enabled, you can send them a dating request.

00:26:59.329 --> 00:27:00.390
They're friends enabled. You could send them

00:27:00.390 --> 00:27:01.690
a friend's request. And that doesn't have to

00:27:01.690 --> 00:27:03.730
be geo locked. I mean, it could be, but you could,

00:27:03.730 --> 00:27:05.430
you know, you could set a request to anyone anywhere.

00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:09.240
if they share your love of reggaeton. And because

00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:11.779
it expires, like we said, after 72 hours, it

00:27:11.779 --> 00:27:13.519
kind of does motivate some more conversation

00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:16.039
and you can, it also keeps it fresh. It means

00:27:16.039 --> 00:27:17.660
that whoever's in that top of percent at any

00:27:17.660 --> 00:27:19.960
given time, you know? So yeah, that's kind of

00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:21.599
what we're thinking. And we think that'll definitely,

00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:23.319
the community has responded really well to that

00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:24.759
idea. Cause I think they want to see the social

00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:26.759
aspect bolstered. Yeah, I love the social network

00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:29.029
aspect of it. Because I love being in a group

00:27:29.029 --> 00:27:30.970
chat. I love kind of adding my two cents in a

00:27:30.970 --> 00:27:32.869
group chat. So that's really cool. But I like

00:27:32.869 --> 00:27:37.069
that idea because it's like I can do it by...

00:27:36.910 --> 00:27:39.210
Not specifically geolocation, but, like, again,

00:27:39.250 --> 00:27:40.869
if I was interested in a brunch or a location

00:27:40.869 --> 00:27:43.349
or a space where I always visit, I can join that

00:27:43.349 --> 00:27:45.190
group and I'll be like, look, I can see you there.

00:27:45.269 --> 00:27:47.869
I'm already going anyway. It kind of removes

00:27:47.869 --> 00:27:50.250
that pressure of, like, I got to be here to date,

00:27:50.289 --> 00:27:53.029
but if I'm already going, I can see you, so I

00:27:53.029 --> 00:27:55.309
have my normal plan. It makes it casual. Because

00:27:55.309 --> 00:27:58.829
I think DC, right, y 'all, definitely loves casual.

00:27:58.930 --> 00:28:01.130
Nothing but casual. I think the thing that really

00:28:01.130 --> 00:28:02.509
sets it apart is that you kind of have to earn

00:28:02.509 --> 00:28:04.569
the right to be there as well, right? So it's

00:28:04.569 --> 00:28:06.890
like... I almost feel like in this is, I don't

00:28:06.890 --> 00:28:08.390
know, we as humans, we'd love to be special.

00:28:08.769 --> 00:28:11.930
That's just like the idea that we know that this

00:28:11.930 --> 00:28:13.589
other group. Yeah, it's like we still like we

00:28:13.589 --> 00:28:15.390
got slight. Hey, we're here, right. We're showing

00:28:15.390 --> 00:28:16.690
out for this one thing that we both love. And

00:28:16.690 --> 00:28:18.109
there's an event about this thing we both love.

00:28:18.390 --> 00:28:20.410
Obviously, we're going. I don't know you, but

00:28:20.410 --> 00:28:22.609
like, let's go and we can even integrate events

00:28:22.609 --> 00:28:25.589
into that. So let's just say it's like it's a

00:28:25.589 --> 00:28:28.049
band. You know, we can integrate them as an admin,

00:28:28.170 --> 00:28:30.329
take discounted tickets, et cetera. You can kind

00:28:30.329 --> 00:28:32.349
of see the potential of all this can go. But

00:28:32.349 --> 00:28:34.240
the fact of the matter is. We're just trying

00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:35.660
to connect people based on who they are when

00:28:35.660 --> 00:28:37.319
they're sitting in the jammies on a Sunday watching

00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:39.079
Netflix. That's kind of the whole idea. The core.

00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:41.339
Everyone's core. Everyone has that. Yeah. No

00:28:41.339 --> 00:28:44.599
makeup. No, like, my hair's a mess, right? The

00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:48.599
real us that our partner's gonna know, uh, better

00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:53.400
or worse. Yeah. So for you all, is the goal a

00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:55.380
long -term relationship, a general relationship?

00:28:55.460 --> 00:28:57.960
Like, what is the overarching goal, just that?

00:28:59.230 --> 00:29:02.670
Is it marriage? How are we defining all this?

00:29:02.809 --> 00:29:04.829
I would love to hear Christina's take on this.

00:29:05.589 --> 00:29:07.950
For us personally or for our users in the app?

00:29:08.109 --> 00:29:09.970
Oh, you're for our users. I mean, either way,

00:29:10.289 --> 00:29:14.289
but for your users in your app. I think the goal

00:29:14.289 --> 00:29:16.529
for our users is really just for them to have

00:29:16.529 --> 00:29:18.369
fun and like build connection, whatever that

00:29:18.369 --> 00:29:20.769
means, whether that's like short term or long

00:29:20.769 --> 00:29:23.349
term. And hopefully, ideally, whatever success

00:29:23.349 --> 00:29:25.869
in dating means to them. And also with friendship,

00:29:25.970 --> 00:29:28.029
like we want them to build solid, strong foundations

00:29:28.029 --> 00:29:31.630
with friends in their area. And yeah, you know,

00:29:31.849 --> 00:29:34.309
it's whatever they prefer. Make them happy. Yeah,

00:29:34.309 --> 00:29:38.059
it's kind of like, how do I say this? It's been

00:29:38.059 --> 00:29:40.140
so strictly defined before. And in fact, we sometimes

00:29:40.140 --> 00:29:41.720
see that with investment, like, oh, it's a dating

00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:44.019
app. Well, it's not, I mean, it has dating aspects

00:29:44.019 --> 00:29:46.599
to it, but we actually present ourselves as compatibility

00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:48.339
as a service. That's like what we call this new

00:29:48.339 --> 00:29:50.440
category because it's a little bit, we have like

00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:52.480
a free wave on our deck. It's like a little bit

00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:54.240
of dating app, a little bit of social network

00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:55.579
and a little bit of news aggregator, but it's

00:29:55.579 --> 00:29:57.400
not exclusively any of them. It's a weird new

00:29:57.400 --> 00:29:59.920
thing. And so I think the reason I bring that

00:29:59.920 --> 00:30:03.619
up is because what we're really getting to is

00:30:03.619 --> 00:30:07.819
what would you do if you knew specifically how

00:30:07.819 --> 00:30:09.579
compatible you are with everyone around you in

00:30:09.579 --> 00:30:12.180
real time as a service. What would you do with

00:30:12.180 --> 00:30:15.119
that information? If it's specifically for connecting,

00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:17.740
do you want to find, I mean, that's inherently

00:30:17.740 --> 00:30:19.779
good for deeper connecting, but it's also just

00:30:19.779 --> 00:30:21.339
good for having interesting conversations. And

00:30:21.339 --> 00:30:23.880
we're just trying to basically create fascinating,

00:30:23.980 --> 00:30:26.559
but also like vulnerable dialogue. You know,

00:30:26.579 --> 00:30:28.000
I think, I think vulnerability is a big part

00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:29.579
of it. You don't have to put on a front as much

00:30:29.579 --> 00:30:31.259
just, or can be yourself and be rewarded for

00:30:31.259 --> 00:30:33.819
it, which is. Unfortunately, I have novel concept

00:30:33.819 --> 00:30:36.180
in today's internet. So what about for you all,

00:30:36.299 --> 00:30:38.079
like, when I was on the apps, right, I was like,

00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:40.660
okay, I need to find someone to marry. This is

00:30:40.660 --> 00:30:43.319
doing my person for ever. Wow. Are you a hopeless

00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:47.619
romantic? Like, I was. Are you saying just because

00:30:47.619 --> 00:30:49.299
I'm a Gemini, I'm a hopeless romantic, too? Yeah,

00:30:49.380 --> 00:30:51.019
I want to know, because I was just like, yeah.

00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:53.200
Purpose that I am. Yes, that's true. Oh, that's

00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:56.140
okay. I know Raffy is. I am definitely a hopeless

00:30:56.140 --> 00:30:59.480
romantic. Well, yeah, for sure. I'm like a stubborn

00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:01.640
hopeless romantic, though. But I will cry in

00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:04.019
any kind of romantic comedy kind of thing. I'm

00:31:04.019 --> 00:31:05.640
a crier, for sure. I want to touch on that stubborn

00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:07.000
part, because I think that's part of, like, the

00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:09.640
DC culture of it all, right? Like, too cool.

00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:12.240
Yeah, I feel like that's, like, I hate that.

00:31:12.420 --> 00:31:13.980
And I think that's something that I've kind of

00:31:13.980 --> 00:31:15.900
talked with friends, obviously, but, like, I've

00:31:15.900 --> 00:31:18.880
been, like, going through, like, dating as, like,

00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:21.259
actually, like, letting the guard down in, like,

00:31:21.259 --> 00:31:24.220
a way that's productive and not just, like, after.

00:31:24.269 --> 00:31:27.009
Like it starts going like rocky you start to

00:31:27.009 --> 00:31:28.750
feel that distance because also like you know

00:31:28.750 --> 00:31:31.150
I'm saying like I feel like it always takes two

00:31:31.150 --> 00:31:33.250
But I feel like when you have that vulnerability

00:31:33.250 --> 00:31:37.740
you save so much time and energy to realize it

00:31:37.740 --> 00:31:40.220
wasn't a match or wasn't supposed to be what

00:31:40.220 --> 00:31:42.799
it was. But I think that's something I definitely

00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:45.140
have lacked. Like when I've shown vulnerability

00:31:45.140 --> 00:31:46.980
in situations, other people haven't matched that

00:31:46.980 --> 00:31:49.819
vulnerability. So I think that's a constant thing

00:31:49.819 --> 00:31:51.559
that I definitely see in a DC. I don't know if

00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:53.960
it's just a DC scene, but obviously in dating

00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:58.099
in general, for sure. Does anyone else kind of

00:31:58.099 --> 00:32:00.349
get a little, I don't know. I get a little touchy

00:32:00.349 --> 00:32:01.829
like and like not sorry not like that I mean

00:32:01.829 --> 00:32:04.450
I almost like nervous in a way like kind of like

00:32:04.450 --> 00:32:06.990
I like I do a lot of romantic to be honest with

00:32:06.990 --> 00:32:08.990
you but it's kind of like I don't want to move

00:32:08.990 --> 00:32:11.269
into things too like not how do I say this there

00:32:11.269 --> 00:32:12.789
there are different levels to this like some

00:32:12.789 --> 00:32:14.150
people are like they're going one day and they're

00:32:14.150 --> 00:32:17.250
like what are we yeah it's other people who are

00:32:17.250 --> 00:32:20.230
like three months later I mean I'm neither one

00:32:20.230 --> 00:32:23.029
of those but at the same time I feel like I might

00:32:23.029 --> 00:32:24.789
consider myself a hopeless romantic but I look

00:32:24.789 --> 00:32:29.160
at it through very So like a logical lens like

00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:31.700
pragmatic pragmatic lens, I guess yeah, like

00:32:31.700 --> 00:32:34.039
don't let your emotions run everything Yeah in

00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:36.160
scientific terms are real hopeless romantics

00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.400
like anxious attachment style people. Oh my gosh,

00:32:38.539 --> 00:32:45.369
you know probably yeah For real? Like, put that

00:32:45.369 --> 00:32:47.809
article in. Yeah, what's the other one, too?

00:32:47.950 --> 00:32:51.150
Like, disorganized? They're stable, which is

00:32:51.150 --> 00:32:53.690
what I guess everyone... It's avoided, anxious,

00:32:53.890 --> 00:32:56.569
and then the stable connection, which is, like,

00:32:56.650 --> 00:32:58.890
I guess the goal for everyone. Yeah, or, oh,

00:32:58.930 --> 00:33:01.970
secure. Secure, secure, yeah. My background is

00:33:01.970 --> 00:33:03.369
in counseling. I'm a master's in counseling.

00:33:03.529 --> 00:33:06.509
So what I really enjoyed about this part is the

00:33:06.509 --> 00:33:09.579
psychology that goes into it. what I do as a

00:33:09.579 --> 00:33:12.799
counselor is talk about like questions or really

00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.400
thinking of questions that are going to connect

00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:19.259
to that person and be able to bring about a response.

00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:20.559
And that's kind of what you're doing here in

00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:23.359
this app. Like, how do you get them to ask a

00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:24.980
question, be able to feel comfortable to ask

00:33:24.980 --> 00:33:27.440
something in their sphere that allows them to

00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:29.119
connect more based on outside from like, what

00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:30.740
do you like to do? How long have you been in

00:33:30.740 --> 00:33:33.240
DC? Where are you from? What do you do? Yeah,

00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:36.160
we're only letting the extroverts take the whole

00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:40.579
thing, you know? Yeah, like, this sounds amazing.

00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:43.660
So, we wanna play a little game with you all.

00:33:44.539 --> 00:33:47.759
Okay, let's do it. So, this game is called Red

00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:50.720
Flag, Green Flag, Beige Flag. And we're just

00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:53.339
gonna put up a couple of different scenarios.

00:33:53.779 --> 00:33:55.720
What's Beige Flag, actually? You guys can ask

00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:58.799
that. Oh, yeah, so a red flag is like hard, no.

00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:01.960
Like, God, this is the worst thing ever. And

00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:03.859
green flag, of course, is your positive sign.

00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:06.579
But beige is like, meh, it's not like a deal

00:34:06.579 --> 00:34:09.320
breaker, but it's like, eh, like, I don't know.

00:34:09.340 --> 00:34:12.079
That's for me. OK, OK. I'm so excited. I've never

00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:16.539
heard of this. Why am I nervous? Like my faults

00:34:16.539 --> 00:34:20.320
are sweaty all of a sudden. OK, so perfect. So

00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.599
we're going to play red flag, green flag, beige

00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.650
flag, where we give a couple of scenarios. And

00:34:25.650 --> 00:34:27.730
all three of our participants, because Rafi is

00:34:27.730 --> 00:34:30.230
participating too, are going to choose if this

00:34:30.230 --> 00:34:32.909
is a red, green, or beige flag. So the first

00:34:32.909 --> 00:34:36.670
scenario is ask your Spotify playlist before

00:34:36.670 --> 00:34:39.670
your phone number. Is that a red flag, or green

00:34:39.670 --> 00:34:42.869
flag, or beige flag, y 'all? OK. Hold on. Let

00:34:42.869 --> 00:34:44.809
me think it through. That's an easy answer. I'm

00:34:44.809 --> 00:34:46.510
not going to say it. That's an easy one. Oh,

00:34:46.530 --> 00:34:49.170
I have two answers so far. I don't know the context,

00:34:49.210 --> 00:34:51.670
but I'm going to put beige flag. Oh my god, we

00:34:51.670 --> 00:34:54.650
have two. Two beige flag, one green flag. Why'd

00:34:54.650 --> 00:34:58.070
y 'all say beige? Who said beige? I said beige.

00:34:58.429 --> 00:35:01.849
Yeah. Okay, yeah, I said beige too, girl. No,

00:35:02.829 --> 00:35:04.989
I said beige because, okay, if I'm talking to

00:35:04.989 --> 00:35:07.610
you and I'm clearly interested in you and you're

00:35:07.610 --> 00:35:10.269
asking for my Spotify playlist but not my number,

00:35:10.349 --> 00:35:12.969
I'm like, girl... Are you like into it or not?

00:35:13.150 --> 00:35:16.150
But then if I'm already into like, or if we've

00:35:16.150 --> 00:35:17.889
been hanging out and I'm mostly on Instagram

00:35:17.889 --> 00:35:19.510
with you, like we talk on Instagram and you ask

00:35:19.510 --> 00:35:21.429
me for a Spotify place, that's cool. Like, you

00:35:21.429 --> 00:35:22.710
know what I'm saying? It's just depending on

00:35:22.710 --> 00:35:26.429
the context for moi. I agree. I think for me

00:35:26.429 --> 00:35:29.510
specifically also like music is one of my love

00:35:29.510 --> 00:35:32.590
languages. So let's just figure that out before

00:35:32.590 --> 00:35:34.730
you even trade like personal information. You

00:35:34.730 --> 00:35:36.550
know, like if we're not into music, like we're

00:35:36.550 --> 00:35:39.570
not going to vibe. It's just unfortunate. But

00:35:39.570 --> 00:35:41.739
yeah, that's what I think. Wait, that sounds

00:35:41.739 --> 00:35:43.659
like a green flag, the way you framed it, Christina.

00:35:44.139 --> 00:35:47.219
OK, I guess you're right. You should be like,

00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:49.619
what's your Spotify playlist? And let's go to

00:35:49.619 --> 00:35:52.460
like a vinyl record bar. You know, like maybe

00:35:52.460 --> 00:35:54.500
see something with the playlist ass. Like, don't

00:35:54.500 --> 00:35:56.920
just look at my playlist and walk away. Right.

00:35:57.280 --> 00:35:58.900
Are you trying to do something or not? Yeah,

00:35:58.980 --> 00:36:01.659
be so savage. Like Adam, I would have chose green

00:36:01.659 --> 00:36:03.539
flag. I'd be like, oh, you like music choice.

00:36:03.579 --> 00:36:05.900
You want to see what I'm into, right? I think

00:36:05.900 --> 00:36:08.239
it's the gesture. Oh, go ahead, go ahead. Oh,

00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:10.289
no, I was just going to say, yeah. I was just

00:36:10.289 --> 00:36:12.989
gonna say, like, if what you said, music, if

00:36:12.989 --> 00:36:14.929
you don't like your music, how are we gonna match?

00:36:15.250 --> 00:36:16.989
I had someone tell me one time, I don't like

00:36:16.989 --> 00:36:20.929
music. Literally. And then I realized, oh my

00:36:20.929 --> 00:36:23.329
God, we have nothing in common as we kept talking.

00:36:23.409 --> 00:36:25.190
So I was like, yeah, that's completely true,

00:36:25.210 --> 00:36:27.210
what you said. Wait, what do you mean dress sure

00:36:27.210 --> 00:36:29.929
though, Adam? Well, I mean, like, so if somebody,

00:36:31.210 --> 00:36:32.710
if I'm vibing with somebody, right, we're talking

00:36:32.710 --> 00:36:35.289
and she was like, let me see your Spotify playlist.

00:36:35.449 --> 00:36:38.289
That to me, of course, that signals a couple

00:36:38.289 --> 00:36:40.309
of things, right? First off, they love music,

00:36:40.510 --> 00:36:43.050
which I love that they love music. And second,

00:36:43.210 --> 00:36:47.309
that music means a lot to them in context of

00:36:47.309 --> 00:36:48.849
compatibility. And I think, like, in a lot of

00:36:48.849 --> 00:36:51.929
ways, you're kind of and it keeps me on edge.

00:36:51.949 --> 00:36:53.710
Right. I'm all about the anticipation. So if

00:36:53.710 --> 00:36:55.710
there's a good music, I feel like seeing my playlist,

00:36:55.750 --> 00:36:57.690
they're like, oh, I love this place. Like, that's

00:36:57.690 --> 00:36:59.789
it. Like, you're so in play. That's like I'm

00:36:59.789 --> 00:37:02.610
swooned in that moment. You know? Yeah. I also

00:37:02.610 --> 00:37:04.190
think it kind of takes a certain level of confidence

00:37:04.190 --> 00:37:06.929
that it's like nice. I just think it might be

00:37:06.929 --> 00:37:08.530
different for girls and guys. That's another

00:37:08.530 --> 00:37:10.909
thing. Like, I feel like a guy would be like,

00:37:11.010 --> 00:37:11.989
oh, that's green flag. A girl would be like,

00:37:12.090 --> 00:37:14.010
oh, he didn't ask for my number. Like, get over

00:37:14.010 --> 00:37:18.429
it. Yeah. I love that. So the next scenario we

00:37:18.429 --> 00:37:21.989
have is never makes plans, but just says, we'll

00:37:21.989 --> 00:37:26.170
see. Easy, unanimous. Who's green flagging that?

00:37:26.489 --> 00:37:29.769
Right. It's a red flag. You got to make plans.

00:37:29.849 --> 00:37:33.230
We'll see. I only like people who are wishy -washy

00:37:33.230 --> 00:37:35.110
and I don't want to commit to anything. That's

00:37:35.110 --> 00:37:36.710
like just re -flagging that. Yeah, it's wishy

00:37:36.710 --> 00:37:38.369
-washy, but also some people love to beg, like

00:37:38.369 --> 00:37:40.010
they want you to beg to see and I'm like, girl,

00:37:40.110 --> 00:37:42.550
bye. No, no, no, no, no. So, yeah. If they wanted

00:37:42.550 --> 00:37:44.190
to, they would. That's what I learned. I feel

00:37:44.190 --> 00:37:46.690
like as an adult or just in life in general,

00:37:47.210 --> 00:37:48.949
you're just like, if they want you, they'll...

00:37:48.949 --> 00:37:52.110
DC's too busy. We don't have time for that. Right,

00:37:52.110 --> 00:37:57.750
right. Okay, so next one, easy. Follows all your

00:37:57.750 --> 00:38:01.150
friends, but hasn't followed you yet. Girl. See,

00:38:01.190 --> 00:38:02.989
I see it different ways, because there's some

00:38:02.989 --> 00:38:06.650
people who, like, who will wait and, like, not

00:38:06.650 --> 00:38:08.429
follow you until, like, you know, everything

00:38:08.429 --> 00:38:12.030
is really secure and you're, like, really into

00:38:12.030 --> 00:38:13.190
each other, because they don't want to go through

00:38:13.190 --> 00:38:15.269
the whole unfollowed, you know, weird dating

00:38:15.269 --> 00:38:16.449
thing. Because it's weird, right? If you're dating,

00:38:16.550 --> 00:38:17.670
are you going to follow them, like, immediately?

00:38:18.849 --> 00:38:19.889
Or are you just talking to them, like, after

00:38:19.889 --> 00:38:21.510
one day or two days? I don't know. That's just

00:38:21.510 --> 00:38:24.289
me. True. I think Instagram is a very sticky,

00:38:24.329 --> 00:38:27.199
like... There's so much... Unspoken rules about

00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:29.360
Instagram these days. I mean, I feel like I can't

00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:33.539
even keep up but yeah, that's a good point Well,

00:38:33.539 --> 00:38:36.880
I would say it's a red flag if you are actively

00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:39.219
following other people I know and not following

00:38:39.219 --> 00:38:42.579
me But if we don't are not talking about social

00:38:42.579 --> 00:38:44.320
media If you like that and like, if we haven't

00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:46.099
even touched on it, I'm okay with that. Cause

00:38:46.099 --> 00:38:47.679
obviously working in social media, I'm like,

00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:50.900
we don't have to like talk about it. So I like

00:38:50.900 --> 00:38:53.159
that aspect of it. But if you're already following

00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.659
Nunu and not me, girl, bye. No. Cause you know,

00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:57.559
it's just funnier than you're ruffy. Which could

00:38:57.559 --> 00:38:59.559
be true, but Nunu is going to be messy and throw

00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:04.380
it into my face every time. If you want both

00:39:04.380 --> 00:39:06.840
of us, just ask. I agree with you. I'm just saying

00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:11.940
devil's advocate. Just because I kind of like

00:39:11.940 --> 00:39:15.739
what you said, Rafi is like, also, unfortunately,

00:39:15.780 --> 00:39:18.500
I can't really do that now being, you know, leading

00:39:18.500 --> 00:39:20.920
essentially a social media company. But I like

00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:22.159
when people aren't plugged into social media

00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:25.099
that much. That seems healthy to me. Right. And

00:39:25.099 --> 00:39:26.980
unfortunately, it's not. We get an ambience of

00:39:26.980 --> 00:39:30.000
those who are. So it's like, I don't care. Like,

00:39:30.059 --> 00:39:31.360
I don't know. I followed you or I did like, I

00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:33.119
don't know about probably will someday. I'm like,

00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:34.840
honestly, I like that better than if you did

00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:36.679
like you're welcome to. But the fact you like,

00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:38.590
I don't care. I'm like, I like that. It's sort

00:39:38.590 --> 00:39:40.309
of like, social media ain't that important to

00:39:40.309 --> 00:39:42.489
me. That was my favorite thing about my partner

00:39:42.489 --> 00:39:45.650
that he does not use social media. It like, helps

00:39:45.650 --> 00:39:47.969
so much. I'm like, great. He hates this. You

00:39:47.969 --> 00:39:51.510
can see it in his eyes. Next one, uses your Netflix

00:39:51.510 --> 00:39:54.969
account without asking. Which means, you know,

00:39:55.090 --> 00:39:56.690
they have something there and they just say,

00:39:56.769 --> 00:39:58.329
I'm gonna use your Netflix because, you know,

00:39:58.389 --> 00:40:02.170
but you're not official yet. What if they create

00:40:02.170 --> 00:40:04.500
their own profile though? Is that cool? So, these

00:40:04.500 --> 00:40:06.940
are her red flags. These are Nunu's red flags,

00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.320
and we're just telling her we approve of everything.

00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:11.760
I need another red flag. Well, I don't think

00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:13.619
it's a good... I don't know, because you see,

00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:16.619
it's definitely moochy behavior. Okay, Nunu's

00:40:16.619 --> 00:40:19.639
got thoughts on this. Did this happen to you?

00:40:19.739 --> 00:40:23.980
Is that why? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Clearly,

00:40:25.019 --> 00:40:28.000
honey. Don't tell them you have a Netflix. I've

00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:31.280
had to like, you know, remove the devices and

00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:33.400
stuff, so I've definitely gotten that. I have

00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:35.960
done that. My next question is, can I get on

00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:38.380
your Netflix, but I guess never mind. No, especially

00:40:38.380 --> 00:40:40.239
now. Netflix won't let me share. They gotta pay

00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:46.380
$100 per person. True. That is a fun one. Oh,

00:40:46.380 --> 00:40:48.820
constantly refers to you as their friend around

00:40:48.820 --> 00:40:52.019
others, which is very DC, like you're just a

00:40:52.019 --> 00:40:54.400
friend. Wait, can I ask a question? Am I allowed

00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:57.039
to ask all of that? Yeah, let's clarify. What

00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:58.760
is the like, I think you got to paint like, what's

00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:00.460
the scenario here? Have you been on like one

00:41:00.460 --> 00:41:02.539
date? Have you been on like several dates? Like,

00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:05.019
OK, all right. I'm like, I'm just going to follow

00:41:05.019 --> 00:41:06.719
one date and I call it over my girlfriend like

00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:08.440
right away. That's a pretty consequential thing

00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:11.300
to do with all of my friends. Like I better be

00:41:11.300 --> 00:41:14.619
sure because again, it's circumstantial. It's

00:41:14.619 --> 00:41:16.420
if we've been doing this for six months and people,

00:41:16.659 --> 00:41:18.260
your friends think we're dating and you still

00:41:18.260 --> 00:41:20.619
call me your friend. That's wild. But yeah, if

00:41:20.619 --> 00:41:22.400
we're starting out, but there's always a, every

00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:24.960
time someone's done that and in a friendship,

00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:26.659
there's always kind of like an acknowledgement

00:41:26.659 --> 00:41:28.920
or like a laugh or like kind of a thing that

00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:32.320
signals that this is like more than just. At

00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:34.719
least in my experience, so I'm like, but if they're

00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:36.780
like, oh, no, this is this is my dude friend

00:41:36.780 --> 00:41:39.360
I'd be like go by so there's a I think there's

00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:41.960
a difference in communication or like body language

00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:44.519
when you say that for me for more I hope that

00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:45.860
if the friends are close enough to they would

00:41:45.860 --> 00:41:47.579
they would have some context leading into this

00:41:47.579 --> 00:41:49.059
and that's gonna bring some random sure you've

00:41:49.059 --> 00:41:52.820
never talked about and they're like, yeah But

00:41:52.820 --> 00:41:58.559
new new clearly has with these questions It's

00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:01.860
actually in a hot seat Ooh, I want to talk about

00:42:01.860 --> 00:42:04.380
this, because DC restaurants, which have a whole

00:42:04.380 --> 00:42:07.159
other tirade on this, right? I'm from the South,

00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:09.460
from North Carolina, and Raffi is from, you know,

00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:11.380
somewhere between New York and North Carolina,

00:42:11.699 --> 00:42:13.900
all over the place. I don't think the food in

00:42:13.900 --> 00:42:16.480
DC is that great, especially with all these expensive

00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:19.420
restaurants, all these places that make you wait.

00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:21.079
I mean, I still don't think Nobu is that great,

00:42:21.179 --> 00:42:24.099
but whatever. Anyway, make you split the bill

00:42:24.099 --> 00:42:28.010
every time. but insist on those expensive date

00:42:28.010 --> 00:42:30.710
spots, those exclusive DC restaurants. This is

00:42:30.710 --> 00:42:34.690
such a new question. Such a new question. Hold

00:42:34.690 --> 00:42:37.530
on. I mean, as someone who dates other men, I'm

00:42:37.530 --> 00:42:40.369
just going to go to the beige slash green flag.

00:42:40.369 --> 00:42:42.090
And I think that's also important because, right,

00:42:42.369 --> 00:42:44.210
in our different experiences, we have different

00:42:44.210 --> 00:42:47.820
expectations, like as queer people. I, you know,

00:42:47.860 --> 00:42:50.420
going Dutch is pretty much the standard until

00:42:50.420 --> 00:42:52.079
you become - Is that the term? I didn't even

00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:53.739
know that. I wouldn't know that because I've

00:42:53.739 --> 00:42:55.980
never grown up - Dutch oven? I grew up always,

00:42:55.980 --> 00:42:57.940
you know, chivalry ain't dead, pay for the -

00:42:57.940 --> 00:42:59.500
pay for the girl on the date, and I always have,

00:42:59.579 --> 00:43:03.260
and I - You always pay? Always do, yeah. Oh!

00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:06.880
Y 'all didn't think at all. I mean, every - I

00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:09.000
mean, in fact, every time, unless there's like

00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:10.360
- unless, God forbid, I don't know, the person

00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:13.719
who wants to go to frickin' let in Madison, and

00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:15.460
they're like, I insist on it on my group to split

00:43:15.460 --> 00:43:18.650
my bill. But I mean that, yeah. I mean, I think

00:43:18.650 --> 00:43:21.630
I always have, yeah. In gay world, I feel like

00:43:21.630 --> 00:43:25.110
if I've paid for some dates only because it gave

00:43:25.110 --> 00:43:28.170
that energy, like they were more of like, you

00:43:28.170 --> 00:43:31.630
know, like they were dolled up. How did you distinguish

00:43:31.630 --> 00:43:35.050
that though? I'm curious. Um, I don't want to

00:43:35.050 --> 00:43:37.289
say gender norm is it but like I was definitely

00:43:37.289 --> 00:43:40.550
the more male presenting they were the more Fine

00:43:40.550 --> 00:43:43.409
it was new new No, it was definitely because

00:43:43.409 --> 00:43:46.150
they were clearly like like a femme and they

00:43:46.150 --> 00:43:48.650
they kind of gave them that gender euphoria So

00:43:48.650 --> 00:43:50.730
I kind of like fed into that kind of thing So

00:43:50.730 --> 00:43:52.730
yeah, I think those are the things for me that

00:43:52.730 --> 00:43:55.429
i'm willing to do but if it's another man that

00:43:55.429 --> 00:43:58.030
you know We're both identified as men and you

00:43:58.030 --> 00:43:59.429
can pay for this spot and i'll pay for the next

00:43:59.429 --> 00:44:01.929
spot That's also what I would prefer not like

00:44:01.929 --> 00:44:04.670
splitting it halfway. That's too much Yeah, I

00:44:04.670 --> 00:44:05.989
just do the dinner drinks thing. I'll get dinner

00:44:05.989 --> 00:44:07.909
you get drinks. Yeah Yeah, like if we're splitting

00:44:07.909 --> 00:44:10.869
it, it means I didn't like you. Oh Because you

00:44:10.869 --> 00:44:12.250
don't want to owe them nothing. Yeah, I don't

00:44:12.250 --> 00:44:13.710
want to owe you anything I'm like, thank you

00:44:13.710 --> 00:44:16.989
so much for this past two hours. Let's not do

00:44:16.989 --> 00:44:20.329
this again I feel like it relieves the pressure

00:44:20.329 --> 00:44:22.829
off of you. Like if I I can go to a nice restaurant

00:44:22.829 --> 00:44:25.170
Let me just do my thing. I'll see you later.

00:44:25.230 --> 00:44:26.929
And if I feel like talking to you, I will again.

00:44:27.349 --> 00:44:31.869
Wait messy question Adam someone who dates women,

00:44:32.190 --> 00:44:34.269
has anyone wanted to put the bill with you? I

00:44:34.269 --> 00:44:38.489
didn't have a good date. I'm just gonna say no.

00:44:39.030 --> 00:44:41.369
I mean, it's just like, I mean, not because of

00:44:41.369 --> 00:44:43.650
me. I'm almost because I feel like, like you

00:44:43.650 --> 00:44:45.309
said, it's kind of like different cultural experiences

00:44:45.309 --> 00:44:47.969
where to be totally honest, like it's expected

00:44:47.969 --> 00:44:51.230
that the guy in straight dates will pay. And

00:44:51.230 --> 00:44:52.809
because I'm doing it anyways, most of the time

00:44:52.809 --> 00:44:54.110
without questions, putting my card down being

00:44:54.110 --> 00:44:58.059
like, thank you. I guess it is a gesture. Right.

00:44:58.380 --> 00:44:59.800
It's one of those. It's one of those funny things.

00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:02.480
I remember like I remember being taught by like

00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:05.199
my girlfriends in my mid 20s of like, you know,

00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:07.420
I don't like think that men should have to hold

00:45:07.420 --> 00:45:08.820
open the door for what we do stuff, but I love

00:45:08.820 --> 00:45:11.639
it when they do. I love it when someone goes

00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:14.460
back a mile. Exactly. Yeah, there it is. And

00:45:14.460 --> 00:45:16.539
so I'm like, OK, that's what I'll do. I rely

00:45:16.539 --> 00:45:19.159
on Shilvery personally, so I love it. Yes, she

00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:22.219
definitely does. Oh my gosh, we're almost done.

00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:25.480
Takes 24 hours to respond, but still watches

00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:27.760
all your stories. Now, see, this could go either

00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:29.800
way, because they're still responding to you,

00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:31.239
but they're watching your stories before they

00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:35.119
do. That's such a red flag. I think it was a

00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:37.599
quick, quickest red flag for me. Yeah, I saw

00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:39.539
a red flag. I thought you read it as a red for

00:45:39.539 --> 00:45:41.460
me. Like, of all the questions, I'm like, this

00:45:41.460 --> 00:45:44.340
is... I hate it. Why'd you dive into that? There's

00:45:44.340 --> 00:45:46.199
so many, like, there's a word for it. I don't

00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:49.019
remember what it's called. Breadcrumbing? Yes,

00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:51.559
yes, breadcrumbing. Where they're just like lurking.

00:45:51.860 --> 00:45:54.219
Oh, and there's another one called submarine.

00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:56.480
But anyway, they're just like lurking on you,

00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:58.739
but then take a while to respond. I guess it

00:45:58.739 --> 00:46:01.380
depends on what was the last text. Was it like

00:46:01.380 --> 00:46:04.000
an ending conversation text? Or was it like a

00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:05.739
less planned something text and you just didn't

00:46:05.739 --> 00:46:08.599
answer me? Because I'm not a good texter. But

00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:10.320
if you're watching my stories are clearly on

00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:12.320
your phone and you can respond to something about

00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:15.440
like planning the next day or something Yeah,

00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:18.840
same. I'm a terrible texture. But when I Someone

00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:20.559
texts me and I haven't texted them and it comes

00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:23.139
to watching their story. I feel such guilt exactly

00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:26.420
And you guys have good just accountability in

00:46:26.420 --> 00:46:28.519
your minds. Most people are just flowing through

00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:30.400
their stories. The fact that you have this trigger

00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:32.039
in your mind to be like, I have all these open.

00:46:32.219 --> 00:46:35.019
I definitely do that too, but there's a core

00:46:35.019 --> 00:46:36.400
group of people that you want to keep up with,

00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:38.559
and I just keep up with for sure. But yeah, no,

00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:41.059
I definitely say that that's something that's

00:46:41.059 --> 00:46:44.480
definitely, I feel like a trend in DC dating,

00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:46.519
if not gay dating here. I feel like that's definitely

00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:48.940
something that happens a lot. But another thing

00:46:48.940 --> 00:46:51.739
is, again, to bring back the previous conversation,

00:46:51.980 --> 00:46:54.300
is social media also isn't that serious. So it's

00:46:54.300 --> 00:46:56.420
like, I don't know, I constantly have this debate

00:46:56.420 --> 00:46:58.099
that's like, oh, they probably just left their

00:46:58.099 --> 00:47:01.039
phone on and the stories just kept going. Oh,

00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:03.239
no, I never feel that way. Never feel that way?

00:47:03.460 --> 00:47:08.679
It was intentional. My phone is always on and

00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:10.699
I sometimes see my Instagram stories going and

00:47:10.699 --> 00:47:12.800
I'm like, oh shit, I just watched like 20 people's

00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:14.019
stories and they probably thought I actually

00:47:14.019 --> 00:47:16.159
watched it. But I would never give anyone else

00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:20.329
that grace or accountability. Yeah, I do it like

00:47:20.329 --> 00:47:22.349
I'll press Instagram I forget and I'll look down

00:47:22.349 --> 00:47:25.190
like wow with you like 20 stories for sure But

00:47:25.190 --> 00:47:26.809
and then you weren't at those people saw you

00:47:26.809 --> 00:47:32.630
so you see I'm not worried But I also don't believe

00:47:32.630 --> 00:47:34.449
someone would just watch my story and not but

00:47:34.449 --> 00:47:40.929
you know actually be there to see me That was

00:47:40.929 --> 00:47:44.289
our last question of a red flag green flag beige

00:47:44.289 --> 00:47:46.389
flags And I don't know what color the flies were

00:47:46.389 --> 00:47:49.630
after all that There wasn't a lot of green flags

00:47:49.630 --> 00:47:51.909
in there. Not a lot of green flags, but one green

00:47:51.909 --> 00:47:54.389
flag for sure is downloading the Impress app,

00:47:54.670 --> 00:47:57.829
especially if you're in DC. So I want to know

00:47:57.829 --> 00:48:01.510
one last final thought you all. Like why, why

00:48:01.510 --> 00:48:03.989
Impress? Especially for hustling and bustling

00:48:03.989 --> 00:48:07.030
DC listeners. You know what? I probably got the

00:48:07.030 --> 00:48:08.809
long winded like backstories. I would love to

00:48:08.809 --> 00:48:10.550
hear Christina's answer first and then I'll just

00:48:10.550 --> 00:48:13.030
take it on with the actual reason I started this

00:48:13.030 --> 00:48:15.849
whole thing. Because you know, I want to know

00:48:15.849 --> 00:48:17.929
this too, Alex, why did you join Ambrose? Yeah,

00:48:18.250 --> 00:48:21.230
I mean, why not get media literate while also

00:48:21.230 --> 00:48:23.050
finding the love of your life or your best friend?

00:48:23.150 --> 00:48:25.730
I think it's a two in one stone and we're going

00:48:25.730 --> 00:48:28.789
to be building more and, you know, really building

00:48:28.789 --> 00:48:30.789
connections and making the world a smaller place

00:48:30.789 --> 00:48:33.969
and a more, you know, fun place instead of what's

00:48:33.969 --> 00:48:35.769
currently going on the news. And it's kind of

00:48:35.769 --> 00:48:38.570
impressed like a happy escape from current news

00:48:38.570 --> 00:48:41.210
while still being educated on the news. And so

00:48:41.210 --> 00:48:42.940
I think that's why it's really great. to just

00:48:42.940 --> 00:48:44.800
download it and play around and check out some

00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:47.960
stuff. Yeah, this is great. Love to hear that.

00:48:48.579 --> 00:48:50.440
It's great to hear some people working on a team,

00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:52.000
like, say better things than you could say about

00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:53.440
your own product. So thank you, Christina. No,

00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:55.139
I mean, yeah, I mean, the whole reason that this

00:48:55.139 --> 00:48:57.280
whole started was, yeah, but back when I was

00:48:57.280 --> 00:48:58.980
doing grad school, I wanted to, I was a former

00:48:58.980 --> 00:49:00.360
journalist, right? And I wanted to try to find

00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:03.000
a way to make media -literate consumption of

00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:04.940
news more appealing. I mean, we all know those

00:49:04.940 --> 00:49:07.659
juicy algorithms that always agree with us, oversimplify

00:49:07.659 --> 00:49:09.420
everything, blame everyone for every problem

00:49:09.420 --> 00:49:12.260
in the world. are very addictive and very fun

00:49:12.260 --> 00:49:15.579
to use, but they're not reality. And nuance takes

00:49:15.579 --> 00:49:17.699
time. These quick TikTok scrolls, they ain't

00:49:17.699 --> 00:49:19.460
got no time for nuance and understanding of the

00:49:19.460 --> 00:49:22.380
world. So how can we beat them at their own game?

00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:24.179
Like we're not going to beat them on the stickiness

00:49:24.179 --> 00:49:26.360
and addictedness factor, but maybe we could beat

00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:29.039
them in a different universal need, which is

00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:31.199
love and connection. And so if you basically

00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:34.360
make that important factual news that means to

00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:36.130
that end, people will play ball. and they'll

00:49:36.130 --> 00:49:37.349
end up falling in love about it while they're

00:49:37.349 --> 00:49:39.269
at it. And so it's kind of a win -win for everybody.

00:49:39.630 --> 00:49:42.110
We all believe, we all come back to a place where

00:49:42.110 --> 00:49:45.230
water is wet, that being so siloed, and figure

00:49:45.230 --> 00:49:46.989
out juicy insights about each other in the process.

00:49:48.170 --> 00:49:51.090
Yeah, when you explained and impressed like a

00:49:51.090 --> 00:49:52.789
newspaper that you could wake up every morning

00:49:52.789 --> 00:49:55.329
and do that that really resonated with me because

00:49:55.329 --> 00:49:58.030
that's to go with what Christina said it is a

00:49:58.030 --> 00:50:00.650
very more like like relaxed sense of the news

00:50:00.650 --> 00:50:03.530
positive sense of the news and I don't feel like

00:50:03.530 --> 00:50:05.449
I have to like flinch at what the story is gonna

00:50:05.449 --> 00:50:08.730
be so that I definitely think is like my favorite

00:50:08.730 --> 00:50:11.750
feature of just that news like it you can treat

00:50:11.750 --> 00:50:13.119
it like a newspaper I don't feel like I have

00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:15.840
to be looking at like the New York Times, the

00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:17.539
Washington Post, and all these things. Because

00:50:17.539 --> 00:50:19.619
sometimes, like I said, you, especially with

00:50:19.619 --> 00:50:21.579
recent news, you kind of see how they kind of,

00:50:21.900 --> 00:50:23.780
this one thing happened with planes, and there's

00:50:23.780 --> 00:50:25.460
just a lot of news that is funneling through

00:50:25.460 --> 00:50:27.079
the planes. And you know what I'm saying? Like,

00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:29.199
it's just like very much algorithmic like that.

00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:31.739
And I just, yeah. And then that just turns us

00:50:31.739 --> 00:50:34.059
all into, in our own echo chambers, right? So

00:50:34.059 --> 00:50:35.440
that's kind of how we feel about it. It's funny,

00:50:35.619 --> 00:50:37.579
you might get a kick out of this, but we had

00:50:37.579 --> 00:50:39.480
11 Georgetown interns last semester. We talked

00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:41.039
about it and asked them, explained to them that

00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:42.019
it's like a newspaper. And they're like, well,

00:50:42.019 --> 00:50:44.599
how did that work? They're like, well, a newspaper

00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:47.219
works like that. It's just everyone sees the

00:50:47.219 --> 00:50:49.000
same articles at a local area on a given day.

00:50:49.059 --> 00:50:50.739
And they're like, that's... really good, like

00:50:50.739 --> 00:50:52.519
that sounds nice, like it's kind of more consumable.

00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:53.760
We're like, yes, it's been around for a hundred

00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:58.380
years. This is the idea. A concept. Another thing

00:50:58.380 --> 00:51:01.300
is like we filter out the news outlets. So like

00:51:01.300 --> 00:51:03.039
no one's leaning a certain way. Everything's

00:51:03.039 --> 00:51:04.719
factual. Everything's reliable. So you don't

00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:07.599
have to do a constant guessing game as like a

00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:09.599
consumer. Like you just want to read the effing

00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:11.519
news, you know? I don't want to do the mind hops

00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:13.500
and the mental hops. And I also think it's great

00:51:13.500 --> 00:51:15.000
to have a diversity of outlets. Like you're not

00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:17.519
just reading one. whole thing like New York Times

00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:19.699
or like one WSJ. Like you're getting a diversity

00:51:19.699 --> 00:51:22.079
of outlets that, you know, can just educate you

00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:25.599
in different ways. Yeah. Yeah. She's right. All

00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:26.980
the outlets are vetted. We use a third party

00:51:26.980 --> 00:51:29.139
fact checker for that. And so you can basically

00:51:29.139 --> 00:51:31.400
ensure it won't be a sensationalist. It won't

00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:33.139
tell you the world's burning because that satisfies

00:51:33.139 --> 00:51:35.260
the person, but it will tell you what is happening

00:51:35.260 --> 00:51:37.599
in a world where water is wet. And you can do

00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:39.260
with that what you will get what you need and

00:51:39.260 --> 00:51:42.559
move on to the mass ranking side. I love it,

00:51:42.619 --> 00:51:44.400
love it. Well, you heard it here first. It is

00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:47.559
2025, and it's time to try something new. So

00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:50.139
try something new within press. Not only does

00:51:50.139 --> 00:51:52.940
it offer a different way to meet people and date

00:51:52.940 --> 00:51:55.820
people, it's something that connects us in DC.

00:51:56.300 --> 00:51:58.900
And I think slowing down and really defining

00:51:58.900 --> 00:52:01.679
that connection is something we all need, especially

00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:04.889
in this crazy, crazy time. Media literacy is

00:52:04.889 --> 00:52:06.929
sexy, that's what we said. Well, we want to thank

00:52:06.929 --> 00:52:09.789
Adam and Christina from Impress for being a part

00:52:09.789 --> 00:52:12.690
of our episode today. This is really fun, you

00:52:12.690 --> 00:52:16.239
all. Yeah. You're great. This is our first interview

00:52:16.239 --> 00:52:19.059
back and we like always are nervous about interviews

00:52:19.059 --> 00:52:21.280
because you know sometimes I feel like it's controlling

00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:23.579
the person and kind of like feeding off but this

00:52:23.579 --> 00:52:25.360
was such a fun interview. I feel like we were

00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:28.219
just like chit chatting on a phone call. We go

00:52:28.219 --> 00:52:30.139
way back. All your rest free interviews are all

00:52:30.139 --> 00:52:33.039
downhill from here. Yeah dating is such a fun

00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:34.480
thing to talk about you know. Everyone has dating

00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:37.170
stories. So thank you all so much. Make sure

00:52:37.170 --> 00:52:40.230
you all at home download Impress on your app

00:52:40.230 --> 00:52:42.650
store so you can be in -game connecting again.

00:52:42.889 --> 00:52:44.670
Thank you, Adam. Thank you, Christina. And we'll

00:52:44.670 --> 00:52:48.389
see y 'all next time. What an episode. Do you

00:52:48.389 --> 00:52:49.690
feel enlightened? Do you want to get back in

00:52:49.690 --> 00:52:51.929
the dating scene? No, I'm so happy where I am.

00:52:51.969 --> 00:52:53.869
But if I was, I would definitely use Impress

00:52:53.869 --> 00:52:56.630
because I like the mental stimulation, but there's

00:52:56.630 --> 00:52:58.530
an option for friends. So you never know. You

00:52:58.530 --> 00:53:00.889
might see me out there and you're grused. And

00:53:00.889 --> 00:53:02.789
if you want to speed up the process and be our

00:53:02.789 --> 00:53:04.409
friend, just follow us on Instagram, follow us

00:53:04.409 --> 00:53:06.949
on TikTok. You can follow me at weightrafi on

00:53:06.949 --> 00:53:09.449
both Instagram and TikTok. Also on YouTube, why

00:53:09.449 --> 00:53:11.170
not? You never know, we might start more work

00:53:11.170 --> 00:53:13.650
on there too. Make sure you follow your girl

00:53:13.650 --> 00:53:17.579
at New New Paris with two S's. And you can always

00:53:17.579 --> 00:53:20.519
see me once a month at Reggaeton Brunch, follow

00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:23.159
at Reggaeton Brunch DC, where we get a pop -it

00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:24.980
every month. And you can see me throughout the

00:53:24.980 --> 00:53:26.500
DMV, because y 'all know I'll pop up at random

00:53:26.500 --> 00:53:29.320
shows everywhere, OK? I want to thank Adam and

00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:32.139
Christina, our favorite Gemini and Leo duo, from

00:53:32.139 --> 00:53:36.019
one Gemini Leo duo to another. We had so much

00:53:36.019 --> 00:53:38.619
fun. Wait, also, real quick, what was the lesson

00:53:38.619 --> 00:53:41.059
here? What should our audience member not do?

00:53:42.429 --> 00:53:44.329
I don't think you should do the talking stage,

00:53:44.590 --> 00:53:46.710
and I think it's important to remember that if

00:53:46.710 --> 00:53:50.409
they wanted to, they would, okay? Wait, don't

00:53:50.409 --> 00:53:53.389
settle for less. Wait, don't be afraid to upgrade

00:53:53.389 --> 00:53:58.110
your dating game, okay? Because it's 2025. Things

00:53:58.110 --> 00:54:00.710
are changing, and so do you. That's the only

00:54:00.710 --> 00:54:03.900
way you're gonna find love. Do not do a man any

00:54:03.900 --> 00:54:05.840
favors, okay? They will think, they will try

00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:07.500
to make you think that they are the prize. Do

00:54:07.500 --> 00:54:11.400
not forget that you are the prize. You are the

00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:13.380
absolute prize, unless they're also great too,

00:54:13.460 --> 00:54:16.139
you know? Let's not villainize people out there.

00:54:16.340 --> 00:54:17.519
I think everyone's trying to survive in this

00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:19.500
dating world. Exactly, we're all just trying

00:54:19.500 --> 00:54:22.800
to survive. So I think with Impress, the world

00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:24.800
will be a little bit more better, because you've

00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:28.199
already impressed me, Raffy. Oh, I'm so glad,

00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:31.780
Nunu. I love you. She won't say it back. I know

00:54:31.780 --> 00:54:54.920
I love you all for listening. Thanks for listening

00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:57.719
to the episode. make sure to follow at weight

00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:01.460
rafi and at new new paris for all updates especially

00:55:01.460 --> 00:55:03.880
about reggaeton brunch and when you're gonna

00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:05.980
party with us we'll see you there
