WEBVTT 00:00:07.949 --> 00:00:10.330 Welcome to another episode of our podcast at 00:00:10.330 --> 00:00:13.230 the Canadian Breakpoint. So as many people know, 00:00:13.310 --> 00:00:17.230 we are live at the AMR Symposium this year. So 00:00:17.230 --> 00:00:18.769 this is something different I'm doing with this 00:00:18.769 --> 00:00:21.449 mini series. And we're really talking about antimicrobial 00:00:21.449 --> 00:00:23.530 resistance, but from all different perspectives. 00:00:23.710 --> 00:00:26.809 So we've had some researchers, we've had clinicians, 00:00:26.890 --> 00:00:29.280 and now we're going to have... Kind of a different 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:33.719 outlook and input from our speaker here. So we 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:38.359 have Harpa Isfield - I'll help you out. Healy? 00:00:38.460 --> 00:00:42.140 He's spelled Healy. Thank you. All right. So 00:00:42.140 --> 00:00:45.840 Harpa, what brings you to AMR? And can you let 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:47.340 our audience know a little bit about yourself? 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:51.119 Yeah, so I'm a knowledge broker in the area of 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:54.899 infectious disease public health. So I'm a project 00:00:54.899 --> 00:00:56.799 manager working with the National Collaborating 00:00:56.799 --> 00:00:59.679 Centre for Infectious Diseases. And some people 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:02.799 out there might be familiar with the NCCs and 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:04.959 ours is the only one that's focused on infectious 00:01:04.959 --> 00:01:09.079 disease. So normally our audience who we talk 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:12.099 to is public health professionals at many levels. 00:01:12.319 --> 00:01:15.519 And this stream of our work, I've been working 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:19.299 on it since about 2016. And this is the only 00:01:19.299 --> 00:01:23.230 stream of our work where we have... public, include 00:01:23.230 --> 00:01:26.989 public as an audience. We also work more closely 00:01:26.989 --> 00:01:29.849 with a lot of organizations that are direct providers 00:01:29.849 --> 00:01:36.170 of healthcare. So we have, we've been in a space 00:01:36.170 --> 00:01:39.810 for quite a while, like since 20, since actually 00:01:39.810 --> 00:01:42.750 the beginning of NCCID, we've always been involved 00:01:42.750 --> 00:01:46.010 in some kind of awareness building efforts. I 00:01:46.010 --> 00:01:49.090 think it started out as a day actually, ironically, 00:01:49.530 --> 00:01:52.870 about just antibiotics. And this campaign that 00:01:52.870 --> 00:01:55.790 we've had really growing as a bit of a grassroots 00:01:55.790 --> 00:01:59.290 effort, because it doesn't have big dollars, 00:01:59.310 --> 00:02:01.989 but it has a lot of passion behind it. And we 00:02:01.989 --> 00:02:06.670 call that AMR Aware Canada. And so NCCID has 00:02:06.670 --> 00:02:09.569 a role coordinating that collaborative campaign. 00:02:09.889 --> 00:02:14.050 And we're here at the symposium because, well, 00:02:14.110 --> 00:02:16.189 because conversations are happening here and 00:02:16.189 --> 00:02:18.930 we want people to, you know, a lot of the experts. 00:02:19.659 --> 00:02:22.520 And people, all the many disciplines are involved, 00:02:22.699 --> 00:02:26.159 of course, as you know, in AMR. And we want to 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:29.159 be in the space where there is that multidisciplinary 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:33.000 scope, One Health scope, because we really need 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:36.699 more of the champions and experts in all these 00:02:36.699 --> 00:02:38.939 fields to be aware that we do have a campaign 00:02:38.939 --> 00:02:42.439 in Canada. Many are looking for, you know, to 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:45.599 make use of educational materials. And there's 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:48.270 a lot of efforts in Canada. And we're trying 00:02:48.270 --> 00:02:52.009 to bring those forward under one umbrella of 00:02:52.009 --> 00:02:56.509 AMR Aware Canada. So we were newly rebranded 00:02:56.509 --> 00:02:59.289 last year. As I mentioned, we've been working 00:02:59.289 --> 00:03:02.590 at this NCCID for many years, but it's really 00:03:02.590 --> 00:03:07.530 developed more into a more concrete entity that 00:03:07.530 --> 00:03:11.490 last year we rebranded and a new website, a new 00:03:11.490 --> 00:03:15.169 name, AMR Aware Canada. So that's really come 00:03:15.169 --> 00:03:17.960 to a head for us. And so now we're really trying 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:24.280 to get the word out to strengthen this. The collaborative 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:27.900 approach to awareness building is, you know, 00:03:27.900 --> 00:03:30.139 it's not a top -down, heavily funded kind of 00:03:30.139 --> 00:03:33.659 approach. It's the experts who are the early 00:03:33.659 --> 00:03:36.979 adopters that know why AMR matters. Yes. But 00:03:36.979 --> 00:03:39.379 they don't have maybe the materials, the resources 00:03:39.379 --> 00:03:43.400 to point to, to get that word out. And then... 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:46.120 So obviously we're very familiar from like a 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:48.879 few years back, your team had presented some 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:52.319 of the educational tools, resources of how physicians, 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:56.340 pharmacists, researchers, et cetera, could access 00:03:56.340 --> 00:03:59.699 some of these tools. So what's kind of been the 00:03:59.699 --> 00:04:03.139 new thing that's been going on or the newer projects 00:04:03.139 --> 00:04:05.840 that you guys have been working on? Well, certainly 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:08.979 we know we hear again and again that we need 00:04:08.979 --> 00:04:13.379 to tell more stories about AMR. People need to 00:04:13.379 --> 00:04:15.620 understand, put a face to that and understand 00:04:15.620 --> 00:04:19.399 how that presents in a person's life and what 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:21.639 they do when they're actually told they have. 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:25.980 You know, you have your maybe you're colonized 00:04:25.980 --> 00:04:29.160 or you have a resistance infection and they need 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:31.600 maybe they're living in long term care and they 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:34.339 are concerned or they're a caregiver of an elderly 00:04:34.339 --> 00:04:37.720 person. Right. How do they need to. control the 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:39.660 spread of that or how do they need to manage 00:04:39.660 --> 00:04:42.939 their care. But a patient perspective is something 00:04:42.939 --> 00:04:47.319 that can really add a lot of depth and make connections 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:51.959 with people. So this year, we have featured other 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:55.379 stories that have come to us through other organizations, 00:04:55.939 --> 00:05:00.360 Health Canada produced some other campaigns like 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:03.139 the antimicrobial resistance. fighters that comes 00:05:03.139 --> 00:05:05.540 from Becton Dickinson. They have a series that 00:05:05.540 --> 00:05:08.079 gathered stories. We've brought some of those 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:10.839 into our campaign that are on our site, but now 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:13.680 we're actually partnering, co -creating some 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:16.519 stories with patients, but that's something new. 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:21.800 And we have a new news page on our site where 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:26.139 we're, we're trying to be a bit of a voice. for 00:05:26.139 --> 00:05:29.579 those who have some educational events new resources 00:05:29.579 --> 00:05:32.759 coming out that we can feature so we push those 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:35.459 out in a newsletter people can sign up to stay 00:05:35.459 --> 00:05:38.779 in touch and know what's new from those resources 00:05:38.779 --> 00:05:42.240 but the news page is also incorporated within 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:45.040 our website that's just another way we can bring 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:48.319 people to the site so that they know they know 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:52.180 this entity exists they can get some of the the 00:05:52.180 --> 00:05:55.680 language that we've developed that's more public 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.100 friendly on that site so they can make use of 00:05:58.100 --> 00:06:00.240 that they can also go to the resource repository 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:03.959 and actually filter last year we've sort of made 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:06.800 improvements to how people can find the resources 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:09.920 right it's filterable by you know is this a patient 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:12.920 handout i need or uh or is it an infographic 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:16.339 or which audience is it for so some of the new 00:06:16.339 --> 00:06:19.360 items i'm excited about the stories we have a 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:22.689 sign up button so that it helps us build this 00:06:22.689 --> 00:06:25.889 community. Now we have, since Brad talked to 00:06:25.889 --> 00:06:28.350 you last year about this, we now have over 2 00:06:28.350 --> 00:06:32.170 ,000 subscribers to this campaign who will get 00:06:32.170 --> 00:06:35.389 that, those updates and that news. So it's a 00:06:35.389 --> 00:06:38.209 way to just build the community. And I know, 00:06:38.209 --> 00:06:40.589 you know, what lands in people's inboxes isn't 00:06:40.589 --> 00:06:44.490 always what they open, but it helps us, you know, 00:06:44.509 --> 00:06:47.649 we populate that with, you know, what's going 00:06:47.649 --> 00:06:51.569 on with some of the events. We want to hear how 00:06:51.569 --> 00:06:54.089 people might use the news. For example, maybe 00:06:54.089 --> 00:06:56.430 they want to learn about policy developments 00:06:56.430 --> 00:07:00.649 in Canada about AMR. Right. We have a lot of 00:07:00.649 --> 00:07:03.930 different collaborators working with us. So what 00:07:03.930 --> 00:07:06.430 they feature is very different. Some are working 00:07:06.430 --> 00:07:10.610 on games and to make it fun to learn about AMR. 00:07:10.629 --> 00:07:13.329 Yeah. Some are working on hard hitting issues 00:07:13.329 --> 00:07:18.170 about. war affected or migrants with AMR those 00:07:18.170 --> 00:07:20.970 populations and some of the policy needs about 00:07:20.970 --> 00:07:25.610 innovation so we try to wide range wide range 00:07:25.610 --> 00:07:28.829 but we're trying to bring it together for you 00:07:28.829 --> 00:07:32.250 know some access so that people you know spreading 00:07:32.250 --> 00:07:36.589 awareness and educating people about AMR we know 00:07:36.589 --> 00:07:39.920 that's not everybody's permit they're they're 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:42.240 not thinking of that and they don't even have 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:44.860 time for that in their jobs right so we're trying 00:07:44.860 --> 00:07:49.500 to make that easy to access and our collaborators 00:07:49.500 --> 00:07:52.459 want to share and make that if you've been in 00:07:52.459 --> 00:07:54.740 the session today you heard from Simon Habegger 00:07:54.740 --> 00:07:57.319 of Debugs Need Drugs that a wonderful resource 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:01.600 numerous languages yeah and he's making that 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:04.939 you know available so we we need to leverage 00:08:04.939 --> 00:08:08.209 those tools in Canada and know you know People 00:08:08.209 --> 00:08:11.050 want to know where the Canadian products are, 00:08:11.250 --> 00:08:14.550 what's relevant to their audiences. And we can 00:08:14.550 --> 00:08:17.769 go to those and we want to make that easier to 00:08:17.769 --> 00:08:20.560 find. And so all of these tools, it's amazing 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:23.620 that so much has actually happened since we last 00:08:23.620 --> 00:08:25.860 heard about all of this, which is fantastic and 00:08:25.860 --> 00:08:28.579 so much growth in the area. So congratulations 00:08:28.579 --> 00:08:32.659 for such a great achievement. And in terms of 00:08:32.659 --> 00:08:35.039 kind of for our audience, just so maybe some 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:37.740 are not aware of like where to find these resource 00:08:37.740 --> 00:08:41.279 tools, do we have a certain link or website? 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:47.659 Yeah, so people can go to amraware .ca. which 00:08:47.659 --> 00:08:49.820 of course stands for Antimicrobial Resistance 00:08:49.820 --> 00:08:55.139 Aware Canada, AMR Aware Canada. And yeah, so 00:08:55.139 --> 00:08:58.919 that's the main portal. And you'll see listed 00:08:58.919 --> 00:09:02.080 many of our partners there. We have over 20 partners 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:07.000 listed and more we haven't yet listed, but so 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:09.659 we're growing this campaign. And that's part 00:09:09.659 --> 00:09:11.899 of why I'm here at the symposium, really reach 00:09:11.899 --> 00:09:14.559 out to other collaborators. So yeah, go to that 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:18.289 website. go to the campaign page for something 00:09:18.289 --> 00:09:21.009 to share during World Antimicrobial Awareness 00:09:21.009 --> 00:09:24.750 Week. We've got volunteers within this collaboration 00:09:24.750 --> 00:09:28.070 who have been working to light landmarks across 00:09:28.070 --> 00:09:33.070 Canada. We have 31 at this point. And so I have 00:09:33.070 --> 00:09:35.470 several days and, you know, a week until almost 00:09:35.470 --> 00:09:38.690 until the close of World AMR Awareness Week. 00:09:38.809 --> 00:09:41.169 Yeah. So that's just, you know, some of the... 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:44.679 The activities we do, of course, are just short 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:48.059 -term things for the week. But yeah, check out 00:09:48.059 --> 00:09:52.399 the resource page, the news. But the stewardship 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:58.460 AMR, sort of PAN AMS, is the name of our webinar 00:09:58.460 --> 00:10:00.820 series. And that's ongoing through the year. 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:02.940 So despite the fact that we do have this big 00:10:02.940 --> 00:10:06.440 push for the world, you know, the WOW event. 00:10:07.100 --> 00:10:10.600 We try to bring practitioners together often 00:10:10.600 --> 00:10:15.240 from very disparate settings. Some are in low 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:18.539 -resource settings in rural areas. Others are 00:10:18.539 --> 00:10:21.639 champions out of maybe hospital settings and 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:24.919 tertiary care. But we want to hear from a range 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:29.120 of players out there what stewardship looks like 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:32.080 in their setting, how they got that. going. And 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:36.100 so we've developed this webinar series to spark 00:10:36.100 --> 00:10:40.100 some conversations and presentations. So the 00:10:40.100 --> 00:10:42.879 CanAMS is something that's ongoing that people 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:45.039 can look for also through that same website. 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:47.960 Okay, awesome. Thanks so much, Harpa. We really 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:50.740 appreciate all of your guys' efforts and you 00:10:50.740 --> 00:10:53.179 coming on the podcast to tell us some updates 00:10:53.179 --> 00:10:56.679 with NCCID. So it's always fantastic to hear 00:10:56.679 --> 00:10:58.820 all the work you guys are doing. And thank you 00:10:58.820 --> 00:11:01.080 for supporting us clinicians with this, because 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:03.779 as you mentioned, we're busy and want somebody 00:11:03.779 --> 00:11:05.740 to kind of handhold us through this. And I think 00:11:05.740 --> 00:11:07.799 you guys are doing a fantastic job. So thank 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:11.440 you. Yeah, very great. Thanks for letting us 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:13.059 speak today. Yeah, of course. Thanks.