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Hey guys, thanks for joining us tonight on the Paranormal Minds of JST.

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Tonight I'll be your host, Shane, and I'm joined as always by Joshua and Thomas.

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Tonight we are going to talk about the Marfa Ghostlights.

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These are the most popular Ghostlight sightings, currently recorded in Marfa, Texas.

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First time these were viewed was by a dude named Ellison back in 1883.

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He was a farmhand, I believe.

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They're near Highway 67 and have been seen since then.

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You can still see them to this day.

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Now Ghostlights are seen around the world.

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Just to reference a few famous spots here in America.

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Some in Brown Mountain, South Carolina.

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You got some in Joplin and St. Louis, Missouri.

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There's some in Virginia.

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They all kind of look the same all over the world.

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The reason Marfa, Texas is a little more famous than the others is because of the media coverage.

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Not too long ago, I'd say, not long ago.

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25 years ago, Unsolved Mysteries covered them.

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They were actually even in an episode of King of the Hill.

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I do want to look that up.

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I'm curious how they roll that into there.

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That'd be interesting.

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I would say that.

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So yeah, they got a lot of attention.

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It really started to get really big after these Ghost Hunter shows started getting big in the

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early 2000s.

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I think it's just because it was a guaranteed sighting.

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It's not speculation if you're going to see these lights or not.

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You roll up.

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You pretty much know you're going to see them.

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So drew people from all over the place.

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There's been a lot of big, big studies on it.

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And yeah, so here, here we are.

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No one has a 100% definite answer on what causes these guys.

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So what do you all think?

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What do you think could be causing these?

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Aliens.

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Always.

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Always.

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I'm not saying it's aliens.

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But it's aliens.

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I mean, you just said it was aliens.

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I don't know.

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I mean, I've heard.

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I don't know if there's any swamps by there, but like swamp lights.

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Like, have you all heard about like methane being trapped like in the mud of swamp, like

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under the water?

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And as they just come up, bubble up, sometimes they'll come up with so much force that they'll

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kind of like light up.

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So I know that there's a theory about that.

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I don't know if there's like swamps by there or not.

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It's kind of a for the Marfa.

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It's kind of a desert area, but you can still have your methane.

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I know exactly what you're talking about because they've actually replicated in labs that spontaneous

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combust and comes up.

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So yeah, that's a very popular theory on it.

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That is the only thing though.

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Being a desert is really the opposite of a swamp, right?

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I mean, I don't see where methane could be.

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I mean, maybe, you know how like in mines, when they would dig, they had to look out

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for methane, maybe it's seeping through the earth.

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Other than that, mermaids.

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It's one of those things like the gas thing sounds like it could be a legit thing.

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I know for a fact that acetylene is very violent.

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If it think it's anything over like 15 PSI, don't quote me.

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I don't know if that's true.

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It like night itself just out of nowhere.

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Maybe the same thing.

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This methane, maybe it's just something that's leaking bodies.

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Such force, but to be contained and to be like a constant thing, like not to just ignite

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and go out, you know what I mean?

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It actually kind of hangs out for a minute.

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Yeah, they like dancing all that stuff too.

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I'm going to go with elaborate hoax on this one.

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There is another theory that's probably one of the most popular on is atmospheric reflection.

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So this could be caused by reflection of car lights or like car headlights or campfires

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back in the day that get get up to the atmosphere and do their thing kind of related to what

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are those lights called northern lights?

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I know all the science behind it, but I know something about the electrons or the reflections

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or something gets up to the atmosphere and hits other sorts of molecules, which causes

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the dancing and the light effect.

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So maybe it's just as simple as that.

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There's a spot in the atmosphere there that is thinner, which that can also be caused

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by methane, right?

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Isn't that the problem with cows?

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Yeah, they fart too much.

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Because I know Native Americans have kind of talked about it and stuff.

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I know some believe like it's souls kind of like making their way to and from the afterlife.

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And to say like to not look at ghosts in a way of scientific explanation, I think is

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I don't know how to put it.

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Borderline irresponsible.

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You know, how else do we know that salt kills them?

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I mean, I looked up to see what some of their legends were.

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And so far, all I'm getting is like people claim to see ghosts of Native Americans dancing

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in lines.

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I don't know what that is somewhere in Michigan.

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But I mean, if theoretically a ghost or spirit is balls of like, it's energy, right?

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Who's to say like the magnetic pool in that place isn't just strong enough to pull the

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energy there?

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If that makes sense.

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You know, I'm just like a like a strong gravitational point just right there where they're at.

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Yeah, something like that, you know, like maybe a heavy metal under the ground or something.

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Makes it kind of.

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Yeah, something like that.

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That could cause that, you know, and it's just able to, you know, form the energy, you

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know, so it could be ghosts or it could be just, you know, a way of energy just forming

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itself, you know, I think man, your theory there is closely related to another one I

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read about about the Tetonic plates underground.

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They that at that area, they shift against each other causing sort of static electricity

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that rises up out of the ground.

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So that there's your scientific explanation, but you know, you don't see static electricity.

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So maybe that's what it is.

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It's giving these spirits something to feed on to where they can manifest just a little

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bit.

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Maybe.

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I mean, if you look at it according to how, you know, because they are energy, that's how

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come batteries drain and cell phones and electronic devices can go haywire flickering of lights

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and stuff like that.

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So it could be possible.

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I mean, if they're shifting and it's causing this huge static surge in a way, you know,

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maybe they're going there and they're feeding off of it.

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But I mean, and I know there's been some speculations that they're angels or like demons.

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I don't know too much about the demon aspect because they don't seem to be malicious in

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nature, you know, maybe angel aspect or even aliens.

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Like I said, you know, beginning aliens, some people believe that it's just crafts that

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are kind of like hovering, you know, just kind of like watching that area for some reason.

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It's very interesting.

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So, you know, I mentioned earlier that these are seen all over the world, but for Marfa,

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Texas to specifically have all these different theories, all these different studies, because

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that's the only one I saw any UFO or alien explanations.

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You know, they this community has ignored all the other lights.

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So why what what makes Marfa different?

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Roswell.

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Is it close?

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I mean, Roswell, New Mexico, I don't know how far away Marfa is to Roswell.

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I guess being close to New Mexico.

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Yeah, just pull up to Marfa, it's four hours away and actually it's, oh, it's interesting.

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If you pull up a map, they're almost in a straight line.

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Like you you head straight north from Marfa and you're going to hit Roswell in four hours.

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And you think so, you know, Roswell is renowned as what the crash site or the UFO back in

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the day.

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You know how we're more we're smaller minded humans with a lot less technology than that,

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right?

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But we still have straight runways to land our planes with lights so the pilots can find

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Maybe that's all this is is a big runway.

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And Marfa is the start of it to where they were supposed to land in Roswell and something

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went wrong.

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Maybe.

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Because if you have a spacecraft capable of intergalactic travel, I could imagine it

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would take you a minute to slow down when you come to land, right?

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I mean, yeah, the Eric, as far as our tiny brains can determine.

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They got like super breaks.

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They just stopped.

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I don't know.

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I mean, I feel like maybe the whole alien things could be reminiscent.

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I mean, with it being that close to Roswell, but I don't think there's like a military

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base or anything there or was when the crash happened.

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You know what I mean?

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Right.

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It was it was all desert.

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So it would make sense.

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You know, if you were coming to visit another planet, because Marfa is also desert.

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So they're thinking we're going to go out here.

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We're going to be left alone, but something went wrong.

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Dude crashed and you know, the rest is history.

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I kind of just like land there where nobody's going to be there to see.

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Because rights Mac Dev, if you look at a geographical map, I mean, it's the

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dead in the center of just the desert over there.

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Really good spot to land down and yeah, it makes makes sense.

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I mean, and in 1947, when the alien craft crashed, I mean, you can only imagine just

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how unpopulated that area would have been.

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And who knows how long they've been visiting.

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So we only know the one that crashed in Roswell.

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This could have been their their landing strip for hundreds of years.

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You know, they were first documented in what 1883.

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They could have been just pulling up and parking there for a while.

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Apparently in Texas, as I'll bring up in Texas in the 1800s, some guy saw a flying

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object like a ship.

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It was in Kansas City, hundreds of residents of Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Missouri, California

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and Arizona have reported similar apparitions.

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Texas said the huge machine hovered over farms, ranches and small towns, often sweeping

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a brilliant spotlight along the ground as it traveled.

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It was the height of the great American airship scare, which actually began in California

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some 20 years before in the fall of 1876, according to modern day writer Jerome Clark.

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I mean, that's that's crazy because you would think this is on April Fool's Day, as many

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as 10,000 people.

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So was this an April Fool's joke or it's awfully suspicious to be on that day and it

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might be one.

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Oh, it was a hoax.

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Well, probably that later on it's like the 1976 sightings resulted in numerous excitement

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and speculation.

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Some theorists claim that an airship had been secretly developed in nearby Oak Park or flown

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in from the East Coast, the San Francisco Chronicle called the airship probably one

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of the greatest hoax ever sprung on any community, but noted it is hard to account for the evidence

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sincere sincerity of those who claim they saw the machine and heard the voices.

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Of course, a lot of people said, you know, it's pure fake.

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This one the following day the Chronicle quoted Professor George Davidson, who believed the

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incident was the outcome of a sort of free masonry of liars.

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He added half a dozen fellows have gotten together, set up a balloon with some sort

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of electric light attachment and imagination had done the rest is pure fake.

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So maybe it's not a hoax.

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But I mean, if if if let's say it's not, I mean, it could go back to maybe you're right,

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maybe the lights are signals.

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I like I like maps, so I'm looking at a map again.

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I don't I don't know why.

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But do do we think that there was any sort of association with aliens and the Mayans?

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Some people believe there is an Aztec or Mayan.

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I think it's the Mayans.

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But they they were talking about how straight cut a lot of the Mayans things like it was

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too perfect for a human to have done anything.

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I know there is a.

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A place where there's this huge like a thing of like little like a huge Mayan pyramid and

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a little Mayan like smaller ones.

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I don't think you can go in and but you can go on top of them and they're pretty flat,

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like four or five of them in a row on either side left and right.

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And then there's this huge pyramid.

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And I cannot remember the name of that place.

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But some people believe that that was a type of like airport for aliens.

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Oh, yeah, I've heard that before.

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That's what I was talking about.

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They're like their cuts were so perfect on their bricks that they're like it was impossible

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for any average human to get it as perfectly straight as it is.

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Well, there there could be.

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So I know, too, they had that advanced calendar.

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We all felt the world was going to end, you know, 10 years ago or whenever it was.

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But so again, looking at this map, the desert area where the vegetation is thinner pretty

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much starts right at the top of where the Mayan civilization would have lived.

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Also in a straight line with this Marfa and Roswell could could be a connection.

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You know, because yeah, right after you exit where the Mayans were, that's when the desert

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starts and yeah, straight line up through could be just kind of like their flight path.

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Maybe they were supposed to come in from the Roswell to Mexico.

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Oh, and that's why I crashed because coordinates were wrong.

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Yeah, that would make sense.

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Instead of Roswell being where they land, it was actually like somewhere in Mexico.

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Maybe they were coming back to visit in 47.

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Yeah.

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And they're like, oh, we haven't been there in like several thousand years, you know,

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see how they're doing.

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They must be prospering with us that cut all those stones for.

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Yeah.

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We gave them a nice calendar, you know.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And they don't come past this day.

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Well, see, I think that was probably when they were going to come back and be like, oh,

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we're going to take y'all all to other parts of the universe and it's going to be magical.

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Y'all are.

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It's going to we're giving y'all time to grow and learn and all that advance.

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It's going to be awesome.

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And then they were going to come back and then they crashed in 47.

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And all that we just blew up a bunch of stuff with nuclear bombs and all that.

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And they're like, you know what?

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No, no, we're not taking these guys out into space.

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They're going to kill everything.

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Right.

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And just destroy themselves and everything else around them.

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What does this button do?

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So, you know, fun.

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So back to like earthly explanations.

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You know, we're talking about these lights that maybe they were guiding aliens to land.

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Right.

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And one of one of the ancient explanations for ghost lights were, you know, almost like

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tortured spirits that wanted to lead people astray.

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So you've heard of like Willow the Wisp.

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Yeah, I got it pulled up right here, actually.

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So they would, you know, be seen in these swamps and bugs and people would try to get

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to them and of course never could and they end up lost in these swamps and stuff.

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So I've seen Willow the Wisp, you know, in certain aspects of mythology and stories before

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it.

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I've never actually looked into it.

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It's pretty crazy.

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Like Willow the Wisp and Jack-o-lantern both came from the same stories.

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Yeah.

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And both were like a dude who did bad deeds.

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So it was cursed to walk the earth with, you know, a light.

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And that's why the like the English called him, you know, Jack Jack-o-lantern, you know,

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his name was Jack and he carried a lantern.

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And like the Scottish would call it, call him Willow the Wisp.

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So his name was Will and of the Wisp just meant like he was a shadowy, smoky figure.

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So pretty interesting that both of them are like, no, this is the same guy.

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So that might even be based on something and seen in numerous places all over, you know,

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maybe it's something like that.

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But he did some sort of weird bad deed and they were forced to sit out there in the desert.

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Because same thing, maybe that's all it is.

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It's a place you don't want to be.

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I don't want to spend my time in a swamp or a desert.

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Maybe that's these dudes over in Marfa.

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I mean, I know the Irish legend of like Jack-o-lantern, Stringy Jack.

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Bargain was Satan and cheated him.

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And that's why he has to walk around with a lantern.

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I don't know about like, because there's a lot of them in here from what I'm looking

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at like so many Niagara, Naga, Naga.

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Almost like MAGA, but Naga with the fireballs on the, I don't know, in Thailand.

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The spook light of Southwestern, Missouri.

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Like, yeah, there's a lot of them.

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Oh my God.

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There's a lot in America.

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What do we do?

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We just have, you know, destroy a bunch of indigenous people.

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Say, have you, have you met any other Americans, man?

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Hi.

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What are you talking about?

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We are the kindest, we are the kindest people on earth.

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Okay.

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I mean, we're so kind.

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We, you know, totally unrelated.

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You talk about friendly Americans.

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Just some information I just gained yesterday that there was some clause back with the Native

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Americans that if there was some abandoned government land that they could take it over,

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right?

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I never knew that they had taken over Alcatraz after it closed down.

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And a group of Native Americans, like 500 of them took over Alcatraz until President

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Nixon, they'd lived there for years, like four or five years.

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And Nixon was like, nah, I don't like this and kicked them off the island just for it

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to stay abandoned.

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Oh my God.

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He's one of these ghost lights.

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He's doomed to just float around.

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Maybe the Native Americans are why they're there.

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It's going to be most of our presidents are going to be these ghost lights.

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Let's just be honest about that, shall we?

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What about, was there any major wars that happened around?

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Marfa?

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Maybe Native American style war.

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I pulled up history of Marfa, Texas.

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Pretty Marfa lights is at their top.

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So that's what they're known for, for sure.

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Filming of the movie giant and the minimalistic art installations of Donald Judd.

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Who is Donald Judd?

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No idea.

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But it was established in 1883 as a water stop and freight headquarters.

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Oh, 1883.

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That's when Ellison first documented the lights.

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So that's as much as their website.

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Now this is the actual Marfa city website.

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So I don't guess they would outline any kind of deadly history.

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Probably not.

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You might have to go to, I don't know if they are like history.

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You know how some towns have like that museum or whatever of their town.

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I didn't know DeSoto County had a museum, but we do.

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This might be promising.

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A battle for the soul of Marfa found an article.

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I was looking at the title, but I was trying to figure out if that was a news article or

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not.

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Oh, it is.

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They're being dramatic.

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I had to tell them out, rich people moving there and they don't want them.

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Well, that's dumb.

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It really is kind of dumb.

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We don't want your money.

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I'm inclined to say it's either spirits, like with the energy and, you know, static

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form or a runway for aliens.

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There was a Ford DA Russell.

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It's a military installation near Marfa, Texas from 1911 to 1946.

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The Civil War general was and was killed September 19th, 1864.

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I don't know.

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Maybe there was a, yeah, it's kind of close according to this little map.

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Maybe that's just, maybe it was built later on.

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I'm assuming that's what that was.

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I thought it was just active from those times.

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I don't know.

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I think it's, it is just kind of funny how close Marfa is to Roswell.

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Now that we actually looked it up because I was thinking like just because it was close

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to New Mexico.

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I didn't realize it was that close four hours from Roswell.

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For sure.

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Maybe it's a combination of both of these theories.

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Like if you are an evil person on earth, you're down to be a light beacon to help aliens

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base craft land.

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See, that's better.

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I was going to go with their just data aliens.

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Oh, well, maybe the aliens made us right.

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So if we mess up here, then I mean they own our soul and damn us to stay here.

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But if, yeah, I don't know, this is going to go to a whole other subject.

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So I'm going to stop there.

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I don't know.

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I think a little bit of rambling is okay.

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I mean, another mystery solved.

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Ghost alien light things.

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How much would that suck?

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You die.

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And then like you greeted by some like aliens like, Hey, you're stuck as a spirit to help

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our space crafts land for eternity because you sucked.

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So like not only you're dead, I guess that's better than than the, you know, the standard

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eternity of torture and fire or whatever that whole story is.

404
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Right.

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I have to say so.

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A lot more boring.

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Right.

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But now I'm saying, you know, we could talk about like a cryptid.

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Who now?

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A cryptid?

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Yeah.

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What are you talking about?

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I don't know.

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Oh, I think how long were you off Tommy?

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I have no idea.

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I decided to come back and just see where we were.

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Right.

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What were y'all talking about?

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Last thing I think is how funny Mexico was, but I don't know.

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It's one of those things if it's a constant, if it's constantly can be seen.

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I mean, I don't know.

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I know that one of the things is people try to go to him, you know, and I know ball lightning

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is a thing.

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Yeah.

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Like, was that same almost fire is one thing?

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I don't think it's ball lightning, but it's a it's a weather phenomenon in which luminous

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plasma is created by a corona discharge from a rod like object such as a mast, spire, chimney,

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or animal horn.

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Are there pictures of San Amos fire?

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Well, you talk about studies to I know there were two huge studies of the Marfa lights

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04 and 08, I believe.

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And both of them came to the same conclusion that they were headlights from Highway 67.

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One of the groups stayed out there for 20 days straight and used all these different

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methods and they're like, no, it's high.

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It's headlights from Highway 67, but there weren't headlights and there was not a Highway

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67 in 1883.

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So that doesn't make much sense.

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Sometimes I feel like some people and this is my personal opinion.

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I feel like people take something like a phenomenon that we can't really grasp the concept of.

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They're like, oh, no, it's this.

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This is what it is.

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You know what I mean?

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You know, like they have to say it's it can't be something paranormal because paranormal

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does not exist.

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And I feel like there are some people, you know, like they go to these like ghost lights,

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which could be a non paranormal thing.

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I'm not saying it's strictly paranormal.

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What I'm saying is like we can't really study it or whatever.

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And maybe they go there and spend the 20 days, they they do their thing, but then they just

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automatically chalk it up without looking to the history into it.

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You know what I mean?

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They go out there with the intentions of being like, we're not going to find we're going

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to specifically not find anything.

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We're going to prove that it's these headlights.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And of course, I'm not saying that they didn't go out there with equipment either and be

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like, oh, we took, you know, EF readings and FLIR readings and stuff like that.

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And you said when was it like 2008?

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Yeah.

461
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Well, the two big ones.

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Yeah, 04 and again, in a way.

463
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Yeah.

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I wonder how they studied them.

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That's my question.

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Because from my understanding, like you can't get close to them to get like an EMF reading

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or anything like that.

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Because as you get close to them and that's in every ghost light around the world, as

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you get close to them, they just keep moving further away, you know, until they just disappear.

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Maybe they're hallucinations.

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Maybe it's just a moisture reflection.

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You know, if you've ever noticed that water at a specific angle will reflect whatever's

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around it.

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Yeah, like a mirage.

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Yeah.

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And it being you're going to see them at night, it gets as cold as it does in the desert.

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If there's anything around it, you know, at a certain point, the humidity would be high

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enough.

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I think it would be able to cause those reflections.

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And if there is car lights anywhere within, you know, because just because we can't see

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it doesn't mean that it's not still traveling.

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You know what I mean?

483
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Of course, it loses its heat.

484
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But I'm just looking at this little this one little small map that's actually on the Wikipedia.

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It's like, I'm assuming this darker circle is where the lights are being seen.

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And it's brown.

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It is around Highway 67.

488
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,040
But I mean, what are the chances?

489
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,000
And this is me.

490
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:25,080
Of we they built Highway 67 right where the ghost lights are.

491
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:30,440
So now it's an easy way of saying like, no, they're headlights.

492
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,800
And you know, I'm not saying it's a government conspiracy, but it's a government conspiracy.

493
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,440
Yeah, that is a government kind of thing to do.

494
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,920
There's a lot of these lights that I don't know.

495
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,480
They're just like mysterious.

496
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,280
Like I would love for us to take a road trip and kind of go see them.

497
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,780
I think that'd be fun.

498
00:28:50,780 --> 00:28:52,280
See other side of Texas.

499
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,960
I mean, how far is that from here?

500
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,280
You know, this is 13 hours from here.

501
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,520
Yeah, right at 14 hours.

502
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,280
A 14 hour drive.

503
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,520
We could camp and stuff along the way.

504
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,520
Pass right through Dallas.

505
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:09,200
I don't know if there's anything in Dallas for us, but I've been to Dallas before to

506
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,200
take my ABO class.

507
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,160
We could just fly straight into Marfa.

508
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,000
Do they have an airport?

509
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,000
$183.

510
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,000
Wow.

511
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,520
That's that's pretty cheap.

512
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,200
We need a rental car, though, wouldn't we?

513
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,200
Yeah, we would.

514
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,040
Is that $183 per person?

515
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,040
Oh, yeah.

516
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,040
Yeah.

517
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,520
Round trip, though.

518
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,520
Yeah.

519
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,520
Oh, that's a round trip, too.

520
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:34,520
That's pretty good.

521
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,680
I mean, it's still an expensive trip to just see some headlights.

522
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,680
It would be cheaper to drive.

523
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,680
Yeah.

524
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,760
Definitely be cheaper to drive, especially if we were going in like something that was

525
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,760
actually fuel efficient.

526
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,560
All right.

527
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,200
Not my truck.

528
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,200
Definitely not my truck.

529
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,200
I get nine miles to the gallon and it doesn't leave the driveway.

530
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,200
Yeah.

531
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:04,160
If we drove to, we could do like a whole multiple destination thing, you know, like, hey, let's

532
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:09,320
go ahead and hit a lot of these weird haunted or paranormal spots.

533
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,320
Right.

534
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,680
Now down right above Shreveport.

535
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:18,760
Oh, what's the name of that muddy bog beast or something like that?

536
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,040
I sent you essentially like a Sasquatch type deal.

537
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,080
And apparently like they made a movie about it in the 70s.

538
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,960
I can't remember what it's what it's called.

539
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,080
It was like muddy bog beast or something like that.

540
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,520
We could like check that out.

541
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,840
Texarkana, they have where a serial killer once stopped the area.

542
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,040
That sounds like a fun thing to do.

543
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,440
Let's get these conclusions in.

544
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,440
So what's our conclusions?

545
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,800
What have we figured out here?

546
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:51,720
It's a possibility that it could be energy connected to static charge from the tectonic

547
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,160
plates underneath it.

548
00:30:54,160 --> 00:31:01,920
So I'm going to stick with the alien landing runway that is manned by damn spirit.

549
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:02,920
Like it.

550
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:03,920
I like it.

551
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,920
I like the light reflection idea, the moisture reflection.

552
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,320
I can see that.

553
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,880
Not necessarily has to be car lights.

554
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,560
It could be any kind of lights, but you know, all right, great.

555
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,000
Well, thank you all for joining us tonight.

556
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,000
These are just our thoughts.

557
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:25,000
And we hope you join us next time.

