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Welcome in to the newest edition of the Justin

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Townsports podcast. I am your owner and host,

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Justin Jackson. In this week's episode, we'll

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be talking about the NBA as we are ramping up

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into the offseason. We will also be talking about

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some of the new contracts players have signed.

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We'll also touch on the NBA draft day one as

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you winning or you losing he gonna tell it to

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and get your whoopie takes he gonna tell it to

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you straight welcome into the show This is one

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of my favorite style of shows, the Insta release

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shows. Also, these shows are great for me because

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I don't get to talk much pure basketball, right?

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And football is my number one sport. You guys

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know I'm a football coach. So football is my

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number one sport. But I do enjoy basketball.

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I like the machinations of basketball. I like

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the moves, the drama, the... kind of the roster

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control that a basketball player has, so on and

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so forth. So I do enjoy good basketball topics.

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I do enjoy good basketball discussion. However,

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I don't get a chance to talk much pure basketball

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pretty much at any point. And this is a show

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post -NBA finals. We're kind of moved away from

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the finals now. Oklahoma City had their parade

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yesterday, so we're officially putting a nice

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little string and bow. On the 2024 -2025 season,

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we're officially moving into the 2025 -2026 season.

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Before I go too further, remember, if you heard

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Follow your breaking news, updates, and coverage.

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But... let's get into it so we're going to break

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down the beginning of the 2025 -2026 season in

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three sections so first we're going to talk about

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trades and if those trades have already kind

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of finished um and by the way i finished so somebody

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traded let's say like for instance we got to

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talk about kd so kd to houston involved the 10th

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overall pick That pick's already been drafted,

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so we're going to mention that player's name,

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what that pick turned into. And there's a couple

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other trades that have happened that the picks

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have already been kind of cashed in on. So we

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will talk about that as well. And then we'll

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go to our new deal. So some players have opted

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in, opted out, and signed new contracts. And

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then we'll discuss NBA draft first round reactions

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as well. This will not be a multi -segment show,

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so we're going to just go from topic to topic.

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to go so let's get into it we are starting off

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with the trades so kevin durant as we discussed

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on last episode quickly we didn't really get

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into it but we've got to do a little bit but

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you know That trade is now effectively done,

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in my opinion. So, Kevin Durant was traded to

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the Houston Rockets in exchange for Dylan Brooks,

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Jalen Green, the 10th overall pick that became

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Kamon Malic. Excuse me if I mispronounced that

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incorrectly. The big center out of Duke. And

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five second round picks. So, five second round

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picks, of course, are going to stretch out over

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multiple years. We'll look back in, you know,

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years time and wonder if, you know. One of those

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picks becomes Nikola Jokic. Then we'll discuss

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those five seconds. Otherwise, over the course

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of human history, those picks will probably get

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faded off. Probably get faded off the discussion

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point. It'll probably end up being Dylan Brooks,

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Jalen Green. Second, the 10th overall pick. Again,

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that became the big center out of Duke. And then

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no one would discuss the five seconds ever again.

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And then, you know, just kind of seeing reactions

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over the past few days, that trade has been deemed

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of either kind of bold by Houston. not gotten

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enough by Phoenix, or Kevin Durant kind of trying

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to get a ring one last time. I think KD looked

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around his options, and I think he believes,

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well, he knows. I mean, he's staying in the West,

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but he's looking at, it's hard in Minnesota.

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Like, that's interesting. Ownership's changing,

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and Minneapolis is in the world's best city.

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It's cold. He's been in warm weather every stop

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except for Brooklyn. Because he got drafted to

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Seattle, but he's only in Seattle for a year.

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Then they go to Oklahoma City. And then in Oklahoma

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City, that's relatively warm. I mean, that gets

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hot in the summer. And then it's Golden State

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in California, San Francisco, California. Then

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it's Brooklyn. That's cold. And especially because

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the NBA is a, you know, it's a cold league. It's

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a winter league. Yes, it finishes in the summer,

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but it starts around October. And you play a

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lot of November, December, January, February,

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March kind of games. And in places like New York,

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March is still chilly. Like, it's cold. You have

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your heater on from October through March in

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certain parts of the NBA country, especially

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when you get into your Torontos and your Michigans

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and your, you know, your Milwaukees and your

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Minnesotas. Like, when you play in those places,

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it's cold from October to March. And it gets

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cold everywhere, but New Orleans winter is like

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four and a half weeks. You get a couple of false

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winters, we get cold spells, but we don't get

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snow like that in Louisiana. We don't get arctic

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blast like that in Louisiana. If it snows in

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Louisiana, you're off. That's it. The planes

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aren't flying, the roads aren't accessible, that's

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it. In Minnesota, it's like, oh, it snowed today?

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Cool, the snowplow came before. Put salt on your

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tires or put chains on you and go to work. Like,

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it's a different vibe. It's a different environment

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in those places. And ultimately, Kevin Durant

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chose to go to Texas. No state tax. He loves

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Emea Doka. Him and Emea Doka have developed a

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great relationship over the years. He loves Emea

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Doka, which for KD is huge, so on and so forth.

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If you're Phoenix, you kind of didn't solve your

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problems through this trade directly. Jalen Green's

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not a point guard. He didn't have a center. Now

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you added a center and a big kid from Duke. He's

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a developmental guy, but his upside is insane.

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He's a 7 '1", 7 '2", like a 7 '7 wingspan. He's

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got decent touch on his jumper. People have seen

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his jump shot. He was a dunker at Duke. He was

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71 % from the field. He was like second in the

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country in dunks. He was a dunker at Duke, and

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he's an elite run protector potentially. Good

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move by Houston to get Kevin Durant. Because

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you don't need Kevin Durant to be great 48 minutes.

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You need Kevin Durant to avoid five. Remember

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those slumps that they would go in the Golden

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State Series? And I'd be like, you know, they'd

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be like, man, Houston hadn't scored in four and

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a half minutes. And they've only, you know, they

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went from a two -point lead to now they're down

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two. Yeah, I mean, for those four and a half

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minutes, that team only scored four. Houston

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just has to avoid that, where instead of that

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four and a half minutes being zero to four in

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favor of the other team, it's eight to four in

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favor of Houston. So now they've grinded you

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for six minutes or four, four and a half minutes.

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And then by the time, you know, you're just like

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worn down and went off and kick back up again.

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Now they're still in front of you. You need Kevin

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Durant to avoid those droughts. And you need

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Kevin Durant three minutes left in the game up,

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you know, three minutes left in the game down

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one or down four. that ball gets swung to Kevin

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Durant and you get us out of here. I think Eme

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Adoka is going to be great for him as far as

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his coaching. Eme Adoka is a coaching center.

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KD doesn't have to be a leader of a team. Eme

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Adoka is there for that. That's going to be great

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for Kevin Durant as far as his career, in my

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opinion. The Boston Celtics were under mandate

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to get out of contractual hell. They were staring

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at a $500 million payroll, including salaries

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plus luxury tax, with Jason Tatum having a torn

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Achilles, and I think missing the entire next

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season. If he doesn't miss the entire next season,

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he's going to miss a vast majority of it. You're

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not going to be in title contention. So, what

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do the Boston Celtics do? They do a couple of

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trades. First trade they pull off is Drew Holiday

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sending him back to Portland. Thinking in your

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head, Drew Holiday never played for Portland.

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You would be exactly correct. The last time Drew

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Holiday played with a Portland Trailblazers,

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he was there for about a week. He never went

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to a facility. He wasn't even there for a week.

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It was part of the Milwaukee deal. They were

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shedding salaries. Drew Holiday ended up being

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one of those sheds. They trade Drew Holiday from

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Milwaukee to Portland. Portland redirects Drew

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Holiday to Boston. Championship later, Boston

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is now sending Drew Holiday back to Portland.

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In exchange, Portland sends Anthony Simons on

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an expiring contract and two second round picks.

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This doesn't do anything for any winning, but

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he immediately say Boston a lot of money. For

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Portland, you get a veteran in the room. You

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get a decent defender in the room. You get somebody

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that Chauncey Billups wants. This could be the

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vet that kind of Chauncey Billups would know

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about. So being him, Ime Adoka, JJ Redick, trying

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to think of some other former player coaches.

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Those guys were in the league when the vet. still

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exists, where he may not be nearly the height

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of his powers, if he ever had powers, you know,

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but he's not, he's nowhere near his prime, however,

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he is still, he may not give you anything, remember

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Udonis Haslam for the heat, like by the time

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that second era of the heat happened with the

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big three, Udonis Haslam was just there, he was

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the tough guy on the locker room to make sure

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things went smooth. Like, he was just there.

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He was the fowler. Like, if somebody hard -filed

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LeBron or D -Wade, Jonathan Hatton was checking

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in. He was putting somebody on the floor. Like,

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you know what I'm saying? Like, that was his

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job, right? I don't think Drew Holiday is going

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to be the enforcer, but I think he will be the

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leader. I think, and, you know, he's got a lot

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of money left on his desk. He's got about three

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years, $100 million left on his contract. It's

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a pretty bad contract for most teams. However,

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for Portland, if you're Darcy Billups, a lot

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of my team is young. So having a guy like Drew

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Holiday, Family man, good man. He's constantly

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giving in the community he plays in. He's constantly

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being a role model. You never hear him about

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him in trouble. You never hear him about him

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in a bad light, so on and so forth. That is worth

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the money to just have him teach and coach. He's

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still going to give you 20 minutes a night, 22

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minutes a night, you know, 12, 4, and 3, two

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good steals, and, like, that's going to be his

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job. At the end of the game, the close game.

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He's going to be on the floor because he can

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still play. It's just with Boston. If Tatum was

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healthy, he's still in Boston. I firmly believe

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that. But because Boston needed to shed salaries,

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they dumped him. And they also dumped Christas

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Porzingis. And a three -team deal with the Atlanta

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Hawks and the Brooklyn Nets. So Christas Porzingis.

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Christas Porzingis and a second -round pick to

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the Atlanta Hawks. Terrence Mann in a 22nd overall

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pick, which ended up becoming Drake Powell out

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of North Carolina, goes to Brooklyn. And George

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Niang in a second round pick ends up in Boston.

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So, again, a purely salary cap move. was, it's

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three parts. So for Brooklyn, you picked up an

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asset, you ended up drafting a player with a

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great, perfect find, right? Beautiful, right?

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Good job, Brooklyn. Okay, so that's pretty much

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it on the Brooklyn side. For the Atlanta Hawks

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side, this was a strategic maneuver as well.

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And why is it a maneuver of, they had a 20 -something

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million dollar, 25 million dollar, I believe,

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trade exception 25 .9 million dollar trade exception

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um from the djante murray trade christoph's porzingis

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salary is more than that trade exception so they

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can't use the trade exception on christoph's

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porzingis which means they still have said trade

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exception so and they're 30 million under the

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tax I mean, honestly, that is impressive GMing

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by the Atlanta Hawks. And they had another good

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move that, you know, the Atlanta Hawks is also

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getting credit for that we'll discuss later.

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But impressive GMing by the Atlanta Hawks. Did

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you still have your fat trade exception? Plus,

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you still have $30 million under the tax to maneuver.

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And then George Niang in a second round pick

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ends up in Boston. George Niang is a relevant

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human walk. I'm talking trade exception. What

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the Boston Celtics did do was shed their salary

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cap ridiculous as far as what they were able

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to accomplish. There was a purely a salary cap

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dump. Everybody in America, everybody in the

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world knew it, that the Boston Celtics were dumping

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salary. Plain and simple, they were dumping salary.

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So they end up shedding. thanks to the two deals

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they end up shedding over 210 million dollars

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in luxury tax bonus they shedded nearly a quarter

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billion dollars in in luxury tax penalty instead

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of going from five to over 500 for their um total

00:16:32.460 --> 00:16:37.000
bill they were around 280 something um as far

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as what they were having to pay now to deal with

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um i mean having to pay down with their roster

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now again Jason Tatum's probably out for the

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year. Not going to have Jason Tatum. Let's just

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start off with that, right? So doing that, knowing

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that, and still being able to make these maneuvers,

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it's quite an impressive GM. Shout out Brad Stevens.

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So that's because Boston. And the last pre -draft

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trade didn't involve picks. We can talk about

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it quickly. My New Orleans Pelicans traded C

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.J. McCollum, Kelly O 'Lennon, and a future second

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-round pick to the Washington Wizards for Jordan

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Poole, Sadiq Bae, and a number 40 overall pick

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in tonight's second round of the NBA draft. I

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like the trade. I don't love it. Now, I like

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the trade by itself. I don't love it by itself.

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Now, considering what we did later in the night,

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I love the trade because it kind of makes more

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sense. However, Jordan Poole, to me, is going

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to be a candidate for 6th man of the year. I

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don't think he starts in New Orleans. I think

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he has the potential to finish. So, I think that

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that two -guard spot in New Orleans, and we'll

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talk about it a little bit more, but that two

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-guard spot in New Orleans is going to be a starter,

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not a finisher. Andre Robeson for the Thunder.

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Think whoever started in front of Mondo Ginobili

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for the Spurs. That person would start the game,

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but he wouldn't finish it. I think that piece

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is going to be rotational. Again, we'll get into

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their rotations later. For the Washington Wizards,

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I don't know what you're doing. It's like they

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went super vet. Because now they have C .J. McCollum.

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He's expiring. Marcus Smart, I think, is also

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expiring. And they have Chris Middleton. who's

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expiring. So they have three veteran expiring

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contracts. They're set up for $100 million in

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cap space. That's a lot of money. Now, granted,

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you have to convince somebody to go to Washington,

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D .C., which, if you guys know anything about

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LeBron trying to get people to go to Cleveland,

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that's harder to do than just saying, oh, it's

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NBA 2K. I got $100 ,000 in cap space. I'm just

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going to sign a tattoo for agents. Nope. No,

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no, no. That's harder to do than it is on NBA

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2K. I assure you. I promise you. But the Washington

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Wizards now have a good, solid core of young

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guys. Zachary Reza -Sher, they ended up in the

00:19:10.529 --> 00:19:15.990
draft picking up Trey Johnson out of Texas. So

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they have a decent core of young players, and

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they're also adding, they have a lot of veteran

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experience with your C .J. McCollum, Chris Middleton,

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and Marcus Smarts. trying to hope to keep those

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blowouts away. Like, even if you start the young

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guys and you say, okay, you know, Marcus, Marcia,

00:19:30.220 --> 00:19:31.500
McCullough, and Chris Moses on the floor together,

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that's going to be, they're going to hold your

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second unit down. They may not explode your second

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unit, but they're going to keep two good defenders

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or one and a half good defenders, one good shooter,

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one good ball hand. Like, they're spread out

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as far as their vets where they can really handle

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a situation in Washington. And then our draft

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day trade. Or one we're going to discuss here

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that involves a player. It is Mark Williams to

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the Phoenix Suns. Mark Williams, yes, same Mark

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Williams that the Los Angeles Lakers said no

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to on the physical. He is now traded. He is traded

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to the Phoenix Suns in exchange for the 29th

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pick that became Liam McNeely. That became Liam

00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:16.119
McNeely, guard out of Connecticut. He's going

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to Charlotte in a lightly protected first -round

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pick. So that first -round pick is lightly protected.

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I think it's protected picks one through five,

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and it is the least favorable out of several

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teams. So it's weird in the NBA you can trade,

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like, least favorable picks or most favorable

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picks. And, again, that comes up later. But it

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is the least favorable 2029 first -round pick

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of the Cavs, Jazz, and Timberwolves. Yep, a little

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bit of contract news. Austin Reeves, the Lakers

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are offering him the max they can offer him,

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four years, $90 million. He declined it. He goes

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to true free agency. He's not held by his draft

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status as far as money he can make. Shout out

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to Austin Reeves. He deserves more than that.

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The Lakers are going to pay him more than that.

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They still have the ability to add the fifth

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year since he's going to go in for agency. And

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I think they might be able to go up to like $150

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for him. So kudos to Austin Reeves. Get your

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money. Get your money, fella. But again, Mark

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Williams is headed to Phoenix. Now, that gives

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Phoenix two centers acquired in the last 12 hours,

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24 hours. Again, the center from Duke and then

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Mark Williams both are headed to Phoenix to try

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and fix their center problem. Now we're going

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to transition into the NBA deals. Quickly, we're

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going to go through them, and then we'll get

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to the draft reaction to close this thing out.

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But our deals that have happened is Chris Middleton

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picked up his $33 .3 million player option. I

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am sure, and I almost mean 10 ,000 % sure, that

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the Wizards would have not wanted him to do that.

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I think they would have given him $33 million

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just to spread it over two years. Something like

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what Fred VanVleet ended up doing. We'll talk

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about him as well. But if you were to say, okay,

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I set up $33 million for one, I'll take $40 million

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for two or something just to spread the money

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out and eat less of it. But also, Washington's

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in a position where they – I'm saying that for

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financial reasons, but Washington's not trying

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to win this year. Not really. So, truly, they

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don't care if they give him a bunch of money

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to Chris Middleton this year because they come

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off of him entirely next season. So, maybe ultimately

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Chris Middleton picking up the option may have

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been best for both sides. He gets a bunch of

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money in one year. They come off his contract

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next year. Sort of like whenever NFL players

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with a franchise tag, like, I don't necessarily

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like the franchise tag because you can do it

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more than once, but it gives you a whole bunch

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of money at one time. Right? And players don't

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like the franchise tag. Three for 27 on one for

00:23:01.220 --> 00:23:03.599
27. He's still 27. He's got all of it at one

00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:10.279
time. You know, like, so I think that's, you

00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:12.039
know, definitely something to look at in Washington

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as Chris Miller is picking up his option. Daniel

00:23:14.220 --> 00:23:16.819
Gafford agreed to a new three -year $54 million

00:23:16.819 --> 00:23:19.920
plus contract with the Dallas Mavericks. He has

00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:21.500
a couple of incentives, I think, that can raise

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the value to $60 million. But he's going to go

00:23:24.059 --> 00:23:28.039
three -year, $54 million -plus contract with

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the Dallas Mavericks. Matisse Theibel picked

00:23:30.299 --> 00:23:32.480
up his player option with the Portland Trailblazers,

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worth $11 .5 million. This is the contract he

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signed in Philly before getting moved, if I remember

00:23:39.400 --> 00:23:43.779
correctly. Kyrie Irving declined his $43 million

00:23:43.779 --> 00:23:48.170
player option and re -ups with the team. for

00:23:48.170 --> 00:23:51.109
three years 119 million dollars now he could

00:23:51.109 --> 00:23:53.009
have gotten a bigger contract as far as a max

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i think he did what he did in order to give the

00:23:55.750 --> 00:23:57.789
team the most amount of flexibility because by

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going to that number it allows team to hold their

00:24:00.650 --> 00:24:03.589
exceptions that they don't burn off uh player

00:24:03.589 --> 00:24:05.769
exceptions and mid levels and whatever they had

00:24:05.769 --> 00:24:09.029
exception wise by going three years 119 he still

00:24:09.029 --> 00:24:11.750
gets a very he gets he gets his last big deal

00:24:11.750 --> 00:24:16.900
in the nba and he was able to um give the team

00:24:16.900 --> 00:24:18.319
some flexibility, especially because he's going

00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:20.619
to be out for a while. They can possibly use

00:24:20.619 --> 00:24:24.160
that $5 .7 million exception for a Chris Paul,

00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:26.720
for a D 'Angelo Russell, for a Dennis Schroeder,

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somebody, a veteran point guard that can hold

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it down and that wouldn't have an issue that

00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:32.660
once Kyrie comes back and is healthy, sliding

00:24:32.660 --> 00:24:36.730
and running that second unit. uh fred van vliet

00:24:36.730 --> 00:24:39.450
referenced him a few minutes ago he had a 43

00:24:39.450 --> 00:24:41.970
million dollar team option that was declined

00:24:41.970 --> 00:24:44.809
and he said they agreed on a two -year 50 million

00:24:44.809 --> 00:24:47.710
dollar contract with a player option on the second

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year kairi has a player option in the third year

00:24:50.130 --> 00:24:53.109
of his deal but a three two -year 50 million

00:24:53.109 --> 00:24:56.390
dollar contract with a player option uh for year

00:24:56.390 --> 00:25:01.029
two they basically for cap reasons took his 43

00:25:01.029 --> 00:25:03.730
and divided it by two and added and added a little

00:25:03.730 --> 00:25:07.579
kicker You know, he still gets his money. It's

00:25:07.579 --> 00:25:09.200
just divided over two years. And, again, he gets

00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:14.059
a little baby bump kicker of $6 million for his

00:25:14.059 --> 00:25:15.900
troubles of having to divide his money over two

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years. And then John Collins, with a lot of uncertainty

00:25:19.059 --> 00:25:21.519
happening in Utah with his future, picks up his

00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:24.420
$26 .5 million player option that he got from

00:25:24.420 --> 00:25:26.619
Atlanta when he was in Atlanta before ultimately

00:25:26.619 --> 00:25:31.599
being traded to Utah. And now we're going to

00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:36.019
move into the NBA draft. um the top of the draft

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relatively boring what i mean by that is the

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first two picks were pretty much as we expected

00:25:40.980 --> 00:25:43.460
cooper flag went number one dylan harper went

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number two now the interesting part about the

00:25:45.740 --> 00:25:49.640
draft started at number three now i will say

00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:52.119
before i get into that this is the first draft

00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:54.539
with multiple i remember like top 18 year olds

00:25:54.539 --> 00:25:58.359
because jeremiah fears and cooper flag both reclassified

00:25:58.359 --> 00:26:02.599
in up a year and like cooper flag just turned

00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:07.059
18. Cooper Flagg and Jeremiah Fierce will barely

00:26:07.059 --> 00:26:10.339
be 19 when the NBA season starts. They were both

00:26:10.339 --> 00:26:13.480
supposed to be high school class of 2025, not

00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:19.440
first round pick class of 2025. They both came

00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:25.160
up one year to play in college basketball early

00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:27.519
to get to the NBA even faster. So shout out to

00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:29.480
them for being able to do it. But the top of

00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:32.720
the draft was relatively, 22, relatively quiet.

00:26:33.289 --> 00:26:35.250
V .J. Edgecombe, number three to Philadelphia.

00:26:35.349 --> 00:26:37.650
I think that was Ace Bailey. And I think Ace

00:26:37.650 --> 00:26:39.890
Bailey, if he doesn't cancel his workout in Philly,

00:26:39.990 --> 00:26:46.410
I think he ends up there. Khan Naiple ends up

00:26:46.410 --> 00:26:50.190
at Charlotte from Duke. So Duke has two of the

00:26:50.190 --> 00:26:52.990
top four. The second Rutgers star, Ace Bailey,

00:26:53.170 --> 00:26:56.210
comes in at number five to Utah. His reaction

00:26:56.210 --> 00:27:00.630
to the draft, I mean, he looked like somebody.

00:27:00.750 --> 00:27:03.829
He just stared at the crowd. Like, there was

00:27:03.829 --> 00:27:06.390
no smile. There was no excitement. Reportedly,

00:27:06.410 --> 00:27:09.250
he wanted Washington, New Orleans, or Brooklyn.

00:27:09.609 --> 00:27:11.990
That is where he wanted to go. And he knew he

00:27:11.990 --> 00:27:14.190
was going to go. And those teams pick 7, 8, 9.

00:27:14.529 --> 00:27:18.529
He knew he was going to end up at 6, 7, 8. I'm

00:27:18.529 --> 00:27:20.269
sorry. He knew he was going to end up at one

00:27:20.269 --> 00:27:22.289
of those spots. He just knew it. And he wanted

00:27:22.289 --> 00:27:24.450
to go to Washington, Brooklyn, or New Orleans.

00:27:25.049 --> 00:27:27.950
I mean, it was wide. Now, New Orleans doesn't

00:27:27.950 --> 00:27:30.529
necessarily fit in that trend. Like, Washington's

00:27:30.529 --> 00:27:32.569
a big city. It's Washington, D .C. It's a big

00:27:32.569 --> 00:27:35.609
market. Also, a lot of opportunities there. New

00:27:35.609 --> 00:27:38.809
Orleans, fun city. Not the world's biggest market,

00:27:38.869 --> 00:27:41.549
however, but a fun city. Brooklyn's a huge media

00:27:41.549 --> 00:27:45.670
market. So, I'm sure for me, you know, and he

00:27:45.670 --> 00:27:47.650
went to College Basketball at Rutgers in New

00:27:47.650 --> 00:27:49.349
Jersey. So, he's used to being up there. I don't

00:27:49.349 --> 00:27:51.970
know why New Orleans was on his list. I would

00:27:51.970 --> 00:27:55.529
have loved to hear him explain it. One of those

00:27:55.529 --> 00:27:58.490
things we'll never get to know now. Ultimately,

00:27:58.490 --> 00:28:02.210
he ends up going fifth to Utah. So Winston Washington

00:28:02.210 --> 00:28:06.769
goes Trey Johnson, guard out of Texas. My New

00:28:06.769 --> 00:28:10.910
Orleans Pelicans go Jeremiah Fields out of Oklahoma.

00:28:12.930 --> 00:28:16.029
Brooklyn at eight picks their first of four guards.

00:28:16.250 --> 00:28:20.690
Igor Dimon, guard out of BYU. Colin Murray -Boyles

00:28:20.690 --> 00:28:26.190
out of South Carolina, out of SC, rather, forward.

00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:30.759
He goes to Toronto. And then the big fella out

00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:36.779
of Duke, Kaiman Malic, goes to the Houston Rockets

00:28:36.779 --> 00:28:42.859
from Duke. He was not happy. So, the other person

00:28:42.859 --> 00:28:45.140
was not happy about their pick. The guy, Colin

00:28:45.140 --> 00:28:49.180
Murray -Boyles, Toronto picked him. He says the

00:28:49.180 --> 00:28:51.599
F word before hugging his parents. Like, he didn't

00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:55.119
want to go to Toronto. It's these young guys,

00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:58.000
man, and it's not a bad thing. These guys, first

00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:00.579
of all, are financially liberated. They are not

00:29:00.579 --> 00:29:02.880
dependent on the NBA for their money. As far

00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:06.000
as, like, you know, Vijay Edgecombe is different,

00:29:06.099 --> 00:29:07.599
but I'm sure he had a pretty decent, a pretty

00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:09.680
trace mama. So he told the story after the draft

00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:11.700
that for seven years of his life, he lived on

00:29:11.700 --> 00:29:13.920
a generator with no electricity. Like, his mom

00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:18.140
had to do all kinds of stuff to feed them. When

00:29:18.140 --> 00:29:20.380
he got to Baylor, she wasn't living off a generator,

00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:25.099
right? But, you know, if they gave him $200 ,000,

00:29:25.299 --> 00:29:27.420
he could have stayed at her apartment or something.

00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:30.900
You know what I'm saying? Like, whatever. But

00:29:30.900 --> 00:29:33.160
there's less and less of those. Like, Cooper

00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:35.799
Flagg had money. Right? Like, some of these guys

00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:38.259
had families had money. But, like, it's less

00:29:38.259 --> 00:29:43.200
and less of the LeBrons who he said, like, if

00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:44.539
I was going to college, I was going for free

00:29:44.539 --> 00:29:46.740
because my mama wasn't going to be on Sex and

00:29:46.740 --> 00:29:48.059
the Housing no more. You know what I'm saying?

00:29:48.579 --> 00:29:50.740
Stuff like that. Like, there's less. and less

00:29:50.740 --> 00:29:53.460
of those i had to make it to get my family out

00:29:53.460 --> 00:29:56.380
stories juxtaposed to just they're really talented

00:29:56.380 --> 00:30:01.279
basketball players bae also these guys are making

00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:03.819
a lot of money in college and living in a place

00:30:03.819 --> 00:30:06.819
of their choosing for a coach of their choosing

00:30:06.819 --> 00:30:10.339
as the best player on the court a lot of the

00:30:10.339 --> 00:30:16.819
times so it you know colin murray boils f bombed

00:30:16.819 --> 00:30:20.079
it we got people out toronto Ace Bailey looked

00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:22.539
like somebody stole his best friend when he was

00:30:22.539 --> 00:30:24.759
picked by Utah. It's a different level. It's

00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:28.680
a different prospect we're dealing with. Gone

00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:31.039
are the days of the grateful player. Unless you're

00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:35.319
like a 50. If you're a top NBA pick, you're probably

00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:37.680
a top high school player. So you've been making

00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:39.819
money for a year or so. You've got money. You're

00:30:39.819 --> 00:30:44.319
not grateful in the NBA anymore. You're excited,

00:30:44.500 --> 00:30:46.519
but you're not, thank you for picking me and

00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:48.619
saving me. I probably didn't pick and save in

00:30:48.619 --> 00:30:53.720
college. Now I'm past that point, right? But

00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:56.140
I want – well, I'll talk about Brooklyn. Brooklyn

00:30:56.140 --> 00:30:58.200
had an interesting night that apparently a lot

00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:01.880
of people laughed at because they had five picks

00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:04.720
in the first round. This first round, which in

00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:07.259
football, my God, you're like winning. You're

00:31:07.259 --> 00:31:09.640
beyond winning the draft. You have five first

00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:12.150
-round picks in – football you're expected to

00:31:12.150 --> 00:31:15.329
drive five starters like you're gonna get a even

00:31:15.329 --> 00:31:17.390
if you even though picks are like playoff picks

00:31:17.390 --> 00:31:20.130
that's a receiver that's a lineman that's an

00:31:20.130 --> 00:31:22.750
edge that's a corner like when you picked up

00:31:22.750 --> 00:31:29.150
five firsts like no you're gm 11 gm legend level

00:31:29.150 --> 00:31:34.329
with five firsts in the nfl the nba logically

00:31:34.329 --> 00:31:36.970
people thought they were gonna trade package

00:31:36.970 --> 00:31:40.220
those pixie to come up or package those picks

00:31:40.220 --> 00:31:42.640
for a player. Like, you're not going to pick

00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:47.019
five people. The Brooklyn Nets picked five players.

00:31:47.500 --> 00:31:50.460
Four of them was guards. The best player on your

00:31:50.460 --> 00:31:51.900
team, in my opinion, in Brooklyn is Cam Thomas.

00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:55.799
Who's the guard? So you loaded up your guard

00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:59.400
room. I don't know what Brooklyn was doing. I

00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:02.740
have no idea what Brooklyn was doing. To me,

00:32:02.779 --> 00:32:06.369
Common Malich would have been great there. You

00:32:06.369 --> 00:32:08.230
got Nick Claston, but Nick Claston's been a heavy

00:32:08.230 --> 00:32:10.769
target of trade rumors. To me, that would have

00:32:10.769 --> 00:32:14.950
been a good spot for Common. I mean, you know,

00:32:15.029 --> 00:32:18.490
just looking at it, Derrick Queen, again, another

00:32:18.490 --> 00:32:22.670
big, a lot of centers went. They stuck and picked,

00:32:22.730 --> 00:32:26.069
and they picked five guards. Many people laughed

00:32:26.069 --> 00:32:30.529
at them. But the most controversial trade of

00:32:30.529 --> 00:32:34.890
the night was my New Orleans Pelicans. At the

00:32:34.890 --> 00:32:36.829
time when the trade immediately happened, I still

00:32:36.829 --> 00:32:38.130
think it's a good trade. We'll talk about it.

00:32:38.130 --> 00:32:40.029
By the time it happened, I went, oh, wow, New

00:32:40.029 --> 00:32:47.289
Orleans has flown up. So the trade was they traded

00:32:47.289 --> 00:32:52.309
a 2026 unprotected first round pick to be the

00:32:52.309 --> 00:32:55.670
best of the Milwaukee or New Orleans pick in

00:32:55.670 --> 00:33:04.720
2026. And something else. In order to get. They

00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:09.299
traded the 23rd pick, which ended up becoming

00:33:09.299 --> 00:33:15.480
Asanoah, forward out of Georgia. They traded

00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:19.640
the number 23 pick, Asanoah, and a 2026 unprotected

00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:22.240
first -round pick, the best pick of either Milwaukee

00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.559
or New Orleans, to come up from 23 to 13 to draft

00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:30.660
Derrick Queen, the center out of Maryland. Now,

00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:35.980
here's where... Here's where a lot of the discourse

00:33:35.980 --> 00:33:38.680
came. A lot of the discourse came. Nick Wright

00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:41.640
called it one of the worst trades in the last

00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:44.900
five years. Bill Simmons said one of the worst

00:33:44.900 --> 00:33:46.680
trades in the last decade. I mean, people are

00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:48.460
literally like, what the fuck is New Orleans

00:33:48.460 --> 00:33:53.259
doing? The ESPN article spoke about it as well.

00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:55.480
Like, New Orleans, I mean, they potentially traded

00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:59.980
a top three pick to come up from the middle of

00:33:59.980 --> 00:34:01.779
the non -lottery to at the edge of the lottery.

00:34:02.269 --> 00:34:05.630
to get their player now here's what i'm willing

00:34:05.630 --> 00:34:07.549
to say i'm willing to take this twofold before

00:34:07.549 --> 00:34:12.389
i get into my opinion the trade is successful

00:34:12.389 --> 00:34:14.789
if that pick is worse it's ten or worse let's

00:34:14.789 --> 00:34:18.449
be honest also we have been dealing with david

00:34:18.449 --> 00:34:21.610
griffin david griffin is a war chest gm what

00:34:21.610 --> 00:34:24.030
i mean by war chest gm is he stockpiles assets

00:34:24.030 --> 00:34:26.889
he stockpiles pieces he stockpiles picks etc

00:34:26.889 --> 00:34:30.019
builds the war chest to either make a big splash

00:34:30.019 --> 00:34:32.760
move or saying one of these war chest items are

00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:34.619
going to hit on their own. That's what a war

00:34:34.619 --> 00:34:38.159
chest GM is. Joe Dumars is an aggressive GM.

00:34:38.340 --> 00:34:41.539
He's an empty the coffer GM. He's a guy that

00:34:41.539 --> 00:34:43.880
says, okay, or president of basketball operations,

00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:47.400
if I am going to run this team, I'm going to

00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:49.639
run it for today and this year, not for two years

00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:53.280
later. So Derrick Queen was a lottery pick. He

00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:56.079
was a, you know, eight, nine overall kind of

00:34:56.079 --> 00:35:00.679
guy. Same thing with Jeremiah Fields. Fierce.

00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:03.940
Most people thought that the New Orleans pick

00:35:03.940 --> 00:35:07.019
was going to come down to either Jeremiah Fierce

00:35:07.019 --> 00:35:11.340
or Derrick Queen at 7. So when it got to 7, that's

00:35:11.340 --> 00:35:12.920
exactly what the choice was. They may end up

00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:15.239
driving Jeremiah Fierce. So they ended up working

00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:17.039
out a deal, and according to Dumars, they started

00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:19.619
calling teams at 8, trying to make the deal.

00:35:19.699 --> 00:35:20.599
It was like, we're going to come right back up

00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:22.920
because we identified Derrick Queen as our guy.

00:35:23.449 --> 00:35:25.110
So they were trying to, every time somebody got

00:35:25.110 --> 00:35:26.949
on the clock, New Orleans called. Trying to make

00:35:26.949 --> 00:35:28.210
a deal, trying to make a deal. Finally, they

00:35:28.210 --> 00:35:30.869
made a deal with Atlanta, and they trade, like

00:35:30.869 --> 00:35:34.469
I said, the 2026 unprotected first. And number

00:35:34.469 --> 00:35:41.190
23, again, became Asa Newell for the rights to

00:35:41.190 --> 00:35:44.809
Dairy Queen, basically. Here's what I'm going

00:35:44.809 --> 00:35:49.849
to say. I think it was a good idea. I think it

00:35:49.849 --> 00:35:56.320
was a good trade. There's only three ways that

00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:59.079
next season goes for the Bucs and the Pelicans.

00:35:59.139 --> 00:36:05.519
And two of them are net positives for New Orleans.

00:36:07.059 --> 00:36:12.019
Option number one for the way this season can

00:36:12.019 --> 00:36:18.000
go is both teams make the playoffs. Both the

00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.659
Bucs and the Pelicans make the playoffs. I kind

00:36:20.659 --> 00:36:23.420
of... For the East is weak. Yes, he doesn't have

00:36:23.420 --> 00:36:25.940
Dame Lillard, but the East is weak. When I broke

00:36:25.940 --> 00:36:30.099
down the Pelicans, the West, Oklahoma City, Denver,

00:36:30.380 --> 00:36:33.659
Lakers, Houston, and Spurs, and the Timberwolves

00:36:33.659 --> 00:36:36.480
are the lock teams to me. Those six are getting

00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.679
in. I think the play -in is going to feature

00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:44.179
some combination of Clippers, Dallas. Dallas

00:36:44.179 --> 00:36:46.519
is health -dependent because Kyrie's off a good

00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:49.360
chunk of the season. If AD goes down, that's

00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:51.789
a bad basketball team. The Clippers have a James

00:36:51.789 --> 00:36:55.670
Harden problem they have to figure out. And then

00:36:55.670 --> 00:36:58.090
the Warriors, they're one more year older, they're

00:36:58.090 --> 00:37:00.510
one more, you know, whatever. So those to me

00:37:00.510 --> 00:37:03.869
are the, you know, let's call it seven to eight

00:37:03.869 --> 00:37:07.590
teams that are playoff playing in the West. That

00:37:07.590 --> 00:37:10.050
leaves New Orleans, Portland, Phoenix, Utah,

00:37:10.190 --> 00:37:15.730
Sacramento, Memphis. I, in order for New Orleans

00:37:15.730 --> 00:37:18.920
to be a playoff team, They just have to be better

00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:23.159
than Portland, who's bad, Phoenix, awful, Utah,

00:37:23.420 --> 00:37:27.219
trying to lose, Sacramento, LOL, Memphis, who

00:37:27.219 --> 00:37:32.199
dumped Devin Bain and did nothing else. So those

00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:35.340
teams, all New Orleans has to be better than

00:37:35.340 --> 00:37:38.119
those teams. And they're the eighth seed, and

00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:40.820
this trade is irrelevant because then Milwaukee

00:37:40.820 --> 00:37:43.699
gets in and that's, you know, it becomes the...

00:37:45.460 --> 00:37:48.099
16th, 17th, 18th pick and, you know, it's whatever.

00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:55.599
Both teams are bad is the second option. And

00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:57.679
so, that would be a situation where instead of

00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.300
the number two overall pick, let's say both teams

00:38:00.300 --> 00:38:02.679
are awful and Milwaukee's pick ends up two and

00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:06.500
New Orleans ends up four. No harm, no foul. You

00:38:06.500 --> 00:38:08.460
still pick at four. You just don't pick at two.

00:38:09.260 --> 00:38:15.230
No harm, no foul. You know, and, Honestly, at

00:38:15.230 --> 00:38:17.550
the moment, there's no real standout number one.

00:38:18.170 --> 00:38:21.690
So, even if it's one in five, yeah, you don't

00:38:21.690 --> 00:38:23.610
have the number one pick, but I'm pretty sure

00:38:23.610 --> 00:38:25.289
Milwaukee, unless you're trading Giannis, isn't

00:38:25.289 --> 00:38:27.610
going to pick a number one. Now, you would hold

00:38:27.610 --> 00:38:30.929
as a big ass A and control who gets it. So, true,

00:38:31.050 --> 00:38:33.809
but, and ultimately, it doesn't help either franchise

00:38:33.809 --> 00:38:36.550
to pick a number one. No harm, no foul, right?

00:38:37.690 --> 00:38:39.349
If both teams are bad, both teams have been in

00:38:39.349 --> 00:38:42.550
the top five, no harm, no foul. The only way

00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:48.119
it becomes a problem is if one of the teams are

00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:50.619
bad. So let's say, especially if it's New Orleans.

00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:53.760
So let's just say worst case scenario, Milwaukee

00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:56.519
goes out, they sneak into the playoffs, you know,

00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:58.519
because Giannis is Giannis and they get the 17,

00:38:58.699 --> 00:38:59.920
right? They're in the playoffs. So their pick

00:38:59.920 --> 00:39:05.860
is 17, 18. And then New Orleans is horrible.

00:39:06.420 --> 00:39:10.539
Zion is injured again. Trey Murphy finally gets

00:39:10.539 --> 00:39:12.639
an injury bug. Herb doesn't come back right.

00:39:12.860 --> 00:39:14.820
DeJounte just doesn't really mess with the team.

00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:19.280
Willie Green gets fired. And they are 30 and

00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:24.139
52. And that pick ends up six. And now instead

00:39:24.139 --> 00:39:27.340
you're picking 18. And you would have had the

00:39:27.340 --> 00:39:31.920
rights to six. That's when it looks bad. But

00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:34.260
unless, like I said, but there's three scenarios.

00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:38.159
Two of them are net positives. Either both of

00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:40.059
you guys made the playoffs. Who cares about that

00:39:40.059 --> 00:39:42.380
pick? Both of you guys are bad. You're in the

00:39:42.380 --> 00:39:46.260
range of the early pick. Or both teams have got

00:39:46.260 --> 00:39:48.139
awful. One team's got awful, which you could

00:39:48.139 --> 00:39:49.159
have had that pick, but instead you're stuck

00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:50.860
with the lower pick. Especially if your pick

00:39:50.860 --> 00:39:54.820
is the pick that's a bad pick. So there is, you

00:39:54.820 --> 00:39:56.940
know. There was a lot of discourse. People are

00:39:56.940 --> 00:39:59.440
laughing at the Pelicans. People are slandering

00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:02.079
them, saying, oh, of course it is. It's Joe Dumars.

00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:06.980
Our guy, old Joe Dumars, he's always doing something.

00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:19.460
That's what's happening in New Orleans. And I

00:40:19.460 --> 00:40:21.440
think it was a good move. I think that it's a

00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:25.469
move. We will know the ramifications of in 12

00:40:25.469 --> 00:40:30.730
months. I think it's a little bit hard to rule

00:40:30.730 --> 00:40:33.889
that right this second. It's a bad trade or it's

00:40:33.889 --> 00:40:35.250
a good trade or whatever. I think that's hard

00:40:35.250 --> 00:40:37.489
to do because we won't know for another 12 months.

00:40:37.750 --> 00:40:39.710
We won't know whether the trade was a good trade

00:40:39.710 --> 00:40:41.750
or a bad trade for another 12 months because

00:40:41.750 --> 00:40:46.739
the team has to play. Obviously, this wasn't

00:40:46.739 --> 00:40:48.539
a championship move. This wasn't like we traded

00:40:48.539 --> 00:40:50.739
that pick and ended up with Trey Younger. It

00:40:50.739 --> 00:40:53.780
wasn't a championship -level move. However, it

00:40:53.780 --> 00:40:55.940
was a move that gives us two guys who identify

00:40:55.940 --> 00:40:58.820
as lottery picks. I also think Joe Dumars kind

00:40:58.820 --> 00:41:01.920
of said it best in his thing. Let's say in his

00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:06.280
interview, let's say Derrick Queen comes out

00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:08.539
and balls out. He's first -team -all rookie.

00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:11.119
He's clearly one of the best four or five rookies

00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:13.960
in the class, but we get hit with an injury bug.

00:41:14.590 --> 00:41:19.289
And now we pick seven. Well, guess what? Derrick

00:41:19.289 --> 00:41:21.130
Queen's one of the top five rookies in the class.

00:41:21.329 --> 00:41:25.110
So he's really effectively top five pick. Derrick

00:41:25.110 --> 00:41:28.469
Queen's a baller. He ends up, you know, right

00:41:28.469 --> 00:41:30.489
in that rookie of the year race or in the area

00:41:30.489 --> 00:41:32.809
of. And it doesn't matter if you trade another

00:41:32.809 --> 00:41:35.110
good rookie. You already got your good rookie.

00:41:35.190 --> 00:41:37.789
You already drafted him a year early. um so you

00:41:37.789 --> 00:41:39.409
know so there's a lot of ways to look at it i

00:41:39.409 --> 00:41:42.110
still think it was a good deal it's gonna age

00:41:42.110 --> 00:41:44.510
either really really well or really really poorly

00:41:44.510 --> 00:41:46.190
depending on those things performance next year

00:41:46.190 --> 00:41:50.170
but i think it was a good one i definitely think

00:41:50.170 --> 00:41:52.010
it was laughable i definitely don't think we

00:41:52.010 --> 00:41:53.269
should be getting slandered all over national

00:41:53.269 --> 00:41:55.889
media for you know being dummies and having joe

00:41:55.889 --> 00:41:57.630
dumars and other world the pelicans are the pelicans

00:41:57.630 --> 00:42:00.250
and what are they doing and no it doesn't take

00:42:00.250 --> 00:42:02.650
all that right like at no point let's take all

00:42:02.650 --> 00:42:07.860
that but It definitely, it's a calculated risk

00:42:07.860 --> 00:42:11.139
of a trade. Because if he's wrong, and let's

00:42:11.139 --> 00:42:13.000
say Derrick Queen is not all that great, and

00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:15.460
that pick becomes like number two, and you got

00:42:15.460 --> 00:42:18.619
a pick in the 20s. Okay, now it's a bad move.

00:42:19.139 --> 00:42:21.699
If both those picks are in the 20s, who cares?

00:42:21.900 --> 00:42:23.880
If both those picks are top five, top seven,

00:42:23.940 --> 00:42:28.019
who cares? There's a massive gap, and you could

00:42:28.019 --> 00:42:30.599
really use that pick, and it goes to Atlanta

00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:36.380
instead. That's the only thing. But that is all

00:42:36.380 --> 00:42:42.340
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as always this is your host justin jackson signing

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