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Welcome in to the newest edition of the Justin Tompkins Sports Podcast. I am your host, Justin

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Jackson. In this week's episode, we'll be discussing the NBA's growing issue. We'll

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be talking about the NFL as training camps begin to open and rookies begin to show up

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for camp and we'll have our best for last. Now as always, don't forget to like, rate,

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something.

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Welcome in to the show and now we are back for a season four episode of 19 of the Justin

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Tompkins Sports Podcast. As always, I am your host and owner, Justin Jackson, and I am excited

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to be back with you. Like I said last week, guys, I spoke about this last week rather.

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Last week was the first time we've been together in about a month. I missed you guys a lot.

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So it was cool getting you guys interaction on some things. I was doing some more things

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out on social over the past week throwing together some of this BS with the NBA and

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what's happening there and how everything is going back and forth in the NBA and now

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it's kind of on a freeze because the NBA goes into kind of a freeze post-summer league.

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The GMs are usually all in one place in summer league so if a big deal doesn't get done during

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the summer league, that's when all the GMs and the execs and scouts and stuff take a

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collective deep breath because it's the first time they've been able to relax. And so you

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know you come out of the NBA season, if you're a team that, if you're a bad team, you're

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looking pretty much probably from Christmas, definitely the All-Star break, you're already

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saying, okay, we got to grind through summer league because you're assembling the rest

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of your roster for the rest of the year, you're getting together probably dumping off trade

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assets, picking up people in order to get extra draft capital, you're looking at your

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summer league roster, who you want to pick in the draft, lottery odds, all that stuff.

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If you're a great team, you're mentally trying to sprint through June and then as a staff,

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as a player group, but then you're exactly trying to tinker with the roster last minute

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to give yourselves the best chance to win the championship and you're also trying to

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look at your summer league roster. So pretty much once the summer league happens and finishes,

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congratulations to Imani Bates and the Cleveland Cavaliers on winning the summer league championships,

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getting the second ever summer league rings. So kudos to those guys. Which by the way,

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I think it's dope that they do summer league rings. A lot of these guys won't win NBA championships.

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A lot of them won't play in the NBA ever. So it's pretty cool that these guys can always

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say I was in the NBA, even if it's summer league, the NBA champion, I have a ring, a

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championship ring that says NBA on it. So I thought that was pretty cool by the NBA

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to do that. But congratulations to the Cavs again for winning summer league. But now the

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entire league kind of takes a collective break because again, all the top executives, all

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the GMs, most of the scouts, a lot of the coaching staffs and a lot of the star players

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descend on Vegas at least for the first few days of summer, that first weekend or so,

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everybody's there star wise because that's when you get a Victor when Viyama is going

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to play. Brandon Miller is going to play. Jabari Smith Jr. is going to play. Like these

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guys with some star power and these young rookies, Scoot Henderson is going to play.

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They're going to play those first couple of games in the first weekend. If they play well,

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they're shutting it down and they're not going to play going into pool, basically pull further

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into pool play and then into the playoffs. They're not going to play in that. They're

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just not going to. So you get as many kinds of things out. Stars leave. Scouts begin to

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move on to the rest of their summer. Even executives for the most part have to move

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on. Coaches and staffs may stick around, but people really start taking collective, like

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I said, deep breath, a big hoo-sah in order to relax after the summer league. So that

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leaves the NBA, however, with a two fold problem. And I spoke about it on Twitter when I did

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a massive mock trade for the four of them. I did two over the past week. The two issues

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are Portland Trailblazers guard Damian Lillard, Philadelphia 76ers guard James Harden. Why

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are they issues? Well, for one, both of them have put in either a de facto trade requests

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or a effective or a literal trade request between the two of them. So James Harden opted

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into his $36.9 million player option for the upcoming season with a de facto trade request

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that I'm doing this in order to get traded. So when I get to my next team, I'll extend

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off this option. And then Damian Lillard finally, after years of people telling him to get out,

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finally put in a trade request officially to the Portland Trailblazers organization.

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That's not an issue in the grand scheme of life. Being traded on the last year of your

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deals, pretty common for superstars. Anthony Davis comes to mind. Kawhi Leonard comes to

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mind. You know that those are two guys that were traded as stars to their next destination

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with the last year of their deal. Now it worked out for Anthony Davis and Lakers. They netted

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a title and Anthony Davis resigned. It worked out for Toronto Raptors and Kawhi Leonard.

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They netted a title and then Kawhi Leonard goes to the Clippers. But I'm just looking

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at it from a perspective of trade requests are not uncommon by stars. It's perfectly

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normal. It's the business that the NBA has set up. It's a perfectly normal situation.

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The issue is not the fact that Damian Lillard, after years of being a poor, like staying

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10 toes down, loyal to the soil, all that stuff he spewed, finally decided that, you

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know, I locked in my last big contract. I kind of want to go in now. And so he decides

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he wants out. Again, hardening the last year of your deal player option. Feeling like you're

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not looking to pay me the contract I want. I know for team trades for me, they're going

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to know what I want. They're going to know what I want before they make the deal. Once

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the deal is traded, I'm going to immediately sign some new contract. Again, not abnormal

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at all. The issue comes in the naming of the place. Now, Anthony Davis did it, right? Cool.

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Anthony Davis was an expiring contract, right? He was also going to the Lakers that had LeBron

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in a bunch of young pieces. The trade was a match made in basketball heaven. We had a

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bunch of young guys on the Lakers looking for an opportunity to spread their wings and

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fly, which wasn't going to have a chance to as long as LeBron was there. Plus he didn't

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have the time for them to because he was trying to win a championship right then. And he had

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a team in New Orleans that was going to have a high pick. It ended up being the number

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one pick. If the Lakers get the number one pick, and the Davis is a Laker anyway, they

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knew they had a superstar coming out in the draft in Zion Williamson. No one knew how

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good Ja Morant was going to be, but you knew you had a superstar coming out in the draft

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in Zion Williamson. Scouts were really high on Ja Morant. Again, no one saw this coming,

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but Scouts were really high on Ja Morant. There was potential, there was rumors that,

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oh, the Pelicans were trying to move four additional assets to come up with two and

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have Zion in Ja Morant. It's like, okay, whatever. But anyway, you knew that was coming, right?

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It was a match made in basketball heaven. And you're probably thinking to yourself,

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well, James Harden is asking the same thing. He's asking him on the last year of my deal,

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trade me, right? Rumor has it and it hasn't been denied. He wants to go to the Clippers.

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Trade me to the Clippers. You know, you can have a bunch of picks, some pick swaps, a

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couple of young guys, make the money work. Send me to the Clippers. The problem is the

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Clippers are jammed up against the cap. Severely jammed up against the cap. They're wondering

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how you know that? Because the rest of Westbrook signed for $3 million a year. That's how

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jammed up against the cap they are. Paul George is a max player. Kawhi Leonard is a max player.

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Their plan of Marcus Morris is a decent chunk of change. Evita Zubach is not cheap. Luke

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Canard's got a bag. They have a lot of guys on their roster that's making a pretty penny.

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And then you go to Dame's situation. He wants to go to Miami. Same thing. They're jammed

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against the cap. So you're going to financially strap Miami down to where they have to just

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peel and peel and peel in terms of assets. Strip pretty much everything all the way down

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just to have a half decent shot at getting Dame or you're expecting Damian Lillard to

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go to Miami for basically nothing, which doesn't feel likely in the slightest. Because of that,

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I decided that I am going to do a mock trade. And this trade was designed in order to pretty

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much show how unlikely this match would be. Right. And so it ended up being a 1, 2, 3,

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4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 player trade. Obviously the 15 player trade is highly

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unlikely. That would easily break the most players traded in a single trade. Easily.

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Not even close. But in order to begin to get decent acquisitions for the Portland Trail

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Blazers along with getting something back for Philly where they can try to still compete

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with our Harden, plus working with these teams cap in mind. So for Miami and Philly or for

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Miami and Clippers in theory, they're trying to fit the person in. They don't really have

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a long term plan. Get them in, get them on the cap table. We can figure it out from there.

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If you're Portland, I think you're trying to free up money. So you don't want to take

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back multi. You don't want Tyler Hero $27,000 a year. You'd have to redirect Tyler Hero

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basically overnight. Kyle Lowry is an asset they could pick up, but you're already trying

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to train young guards. Kyle Lowry probably wants to win in this age his career. I don't

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even think he would accept the trade to Portland. I think he'd probably just walk away. And

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so with all that stuff being said, you try to get things where it makes sense for Portland

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to get them along with financially they're not tied down to whoever is a three or four

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year contract. So and it's posted on all my social medias, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram,

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Twitter, Facebook, Instagram. I believe it's on threads. I'm not 1000% sure, but I think

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it's on threads as well. But the trade ends up with Miami Heat getting Damien Liller and

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Jaden Springer. Springer is a young guy from the 76ers. The Trail Blazers end up with Marcus

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Morris on an expiring contract, Robert Covington on an expiring contract, Kayla Martin on two

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years of variable manageable money, Forky and Corkmoss on a one year expiring contract,

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Daniel House Jr. on a one year expiring contract, Josh Ridgerson on a two year variable manageable

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deal and Nikola Jovic a young guy who they can build around also would include multiple

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first round picks, picks, while sending packets of second round picks. The Los Angeles Clippers,

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you end up with James Harden and then the Philadelphia 76ers in an attempt to try and

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keep winning basketball games. They will pick up Tyler Hero, Duncan Robinson, KJ Martin,

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Hayward Highsmith and Brandon Boston Jr. in a bevy of second round picks. Now again, I

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said in the post, by no means is this trade perfect. It is not perfect at any and all

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ways. Most people say, oh, why would Miami trade six people just to get Dame and Pat

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Riley would never do that? Oh, why would the Clippers give up all this young talent just

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to get James Harden? Exactly. That's my point. Either the Portland Chubb ladies are going

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to give Damian Lillip for basically nothing and set the franchise of Portland back five

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to 10 to 12 years. Now they have some young good guards. They have Anthony Simons, they

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kept Matisse Stiebel. Of course, they drafted Scoob Henderson. They gave Jeremy Grant a

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big bag. They probably convert Nurgage into some other things, but that's my issue. The

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issue does not lie in the fact that the trade can't be done. The issue is not in the fact

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of what are you going to give Portland? Same thing with my with Philadelphia and the 76ers,

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Philadelphia and the Clippers rather. What are you going to give Philly to make it worth

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James Harden? I gave Philly more than anybody else is giving Philly. And according to the

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ESPN projection, they were still like minus like 16 wins. That's a situation where they

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are losing to the times where Portland goes down, I think 10 wins losing game. But James

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Harden is worth 16 wins apparently to the Philadelphia 76ers. That's hard to replace.

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That's a situation where if you are going to have a 16 win drop off projection wise

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and all these teams have analysis departments and departments that are designed to find

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out what's the value of a 2030 umpire first time picked from Phoenix, you know, like all

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these teams have these departments. If you're going to lose 16 wins for one player, do you

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then trade Joel Embiid? Okay, Embiid goes to the highest bidder. Doesn't matter if it's

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the same conference. Doesn't matter if it's the same division. Embiid to the highest bidder.

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Um, because we're gonna I mean, there's not going to be an asset you get back unless he

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goes to New York. Now I did the draft for New York a lot less is being moved because

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you had certain people getting shipped in the trade that kind of made the money and

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the value workout. So you didn't have to go so far with so many pieces being moved because

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in the trade that centers around Philly. Oh, wait, no, that's another version of that trade.

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Um, I did a version and multiple people fought back saying with Portland, Miami, Philly and

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Clippers rather multiple people fought back saying, oh, it's not enough Portland and why

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Portland take this deal and you got to give them more than just young guys nobody really

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likes because I had them getting Brandon Boston, Hayward Highsmith, KJ Martin, Daniel Hobbs,

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Robert Covington, Duncan Robinson and an attempt to not take back a whole bunch of money. Corkmize

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and Dame goes to Miami. Philly gets hero and Powell. Clippers get hardened. Um, people

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fought back on that. So when I expanded it, people thought it was too much. Like there's

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no sweet spot for this deal to be made in terms of people getting the value that they

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believe deserves to go to Portland and I given them too much from the other teams because

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that's just the nature of trying to maneuver with the salary cap, trying to move and get

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adequate value for the teams losing the superstars, which has never happened in NBA history. Whoever

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is a superstar went to trade. It doesn't particularly matter. Nobody knows what the signing trade

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deal was for the Cleveland Cavaliers or LeBron. No one knows what the deal was for a killer

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crime to a Jabar. Like these people just don't, you know, you just don't, they don't matter

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if you're not the superstar in the trade. So the NBA has a problem and their problem

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is stars not only requesting trades, but they're requesting trades of very specific teams hamstring

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in their own organizations, hamstring in their current GMs and they even attempting

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to getting back equal value or some semblance of equal value or having a bidding war. Like

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if you have superstar like Dame's agent, who really was a good one, already good one, already

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good one, one of the two, Archie Goodwin, Aaron Goodwin, sorry. If you have a guy like

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Aaron Goodwin going out and saying Dame's not going to come to camp. If you trade for

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him and it's not the Miami Heat, Dame's is not going to go. Well, why as a team would

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I even offer Portland something? If I know without a shadow of a doubt, I'm going to

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be trading for an angry superstar. I'm going to be trading for a guy who's coming in upset,

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who's coming in not ready, who's coming in not wanting to be there. That is an absolute

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waste of time if I am any other organization, because if Dame's going to come in upset,

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disgruntled, frustrated, however you want to put it, or just not come at all, I send

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assets out for a person who doesn't want to be there. And how long is it? Six to eight

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months before he's asking God in my city and I'm going to get less back than when I traded

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for him. So organizations have to make that choice. Dame doesn't have a no trade clause.

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When Bradley Bill got moved to Phoenix, Bradley had a no trade clause. So he controlled his

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own destiny, but you had an opportunity to go to him as an organization. If you were

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one like, if you were one to trade for him and go to him and say, Hey, Bradley, this

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is what we see for you. This is how we see us winning. This is what we see happening

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over the next few years. Boom, boom, boom, boom. This is what the projected trade would

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be. This is how your teammates would be. This is how we felt the roster. You had the opportunity

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to meet with him and go step by step before he waived his no trade laws for you. Dame

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and Lilla doesn't have that. So he's using the media to strong arm people away from even

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attempting to offer because they think, Oh man, Dame's not going to come. Dame's not

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going to show up if we offer. What's the point of even offering? Dame's not coming. And that

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is ridiculous. But that's a problem. He has four years left on his contract. Three years

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plus a team option. If he doesn't show up, he either hits fine, leaves on the contract

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and his contract tolls. He can't go to agency anytime soon. If the NBA owners and I'm always

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for the players, but this is insane. I think owners in GMs, he's called his bluff. Either

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Portland keeps them, which Portland GM has already said this could take months to get

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done. Either Portland keeps them or they trade them to the highest bidder. However the highest

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bidder may be if it's Miami, then by all means Miami. But if it's New Orleans, if it's New

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York, if it's trying to get some other teams that might make the deal, the Clippers, like

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if it's another organization that gives the highest bid, I say make the deal and dare

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Dame not to show up and risk losing $200 million. Like that's the bet I would make against Dame.

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I would call his bluff here. Harden is a little bit different situation. He's potentially

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hamstringing and feeling from getting value back if I say he wants to be a Clipper or

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by having it come out that he wants to be a Clipper. But it's a little bit of a different

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situation than Damian Lillard considering Harden has about eight months left or these

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are about 12 months left, 11 months left in Philly. Dame has at least three years left

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in Portland under contract. So if I'm in Portland, like I said, I fight my best to get equal

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value for him and I don't let him strong arm us into sending him to Miami for scraps and

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pieces. So that will be my approach to the Dame Lillard situation. And for the rest of

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the NBA, I call his bluff too by offering packages, making a trade and daring him not

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to show up pretty much. But that is all I have for the NBA. Up next, we're going to

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shift to the NFL and talk about going down with the Shield.

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Welcome back into the show. And now we're going to jump to the NFL where there is a

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new ownership group in the NFL. Josh Harris, his group led by Josh Harris, who owns the

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Philly Leppie 76ers and the New Jersey Devils, along with Maddie Johnson, of course, NBA

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Hall of Famer, Laker legend, world class entrepreneur and businessman, along with the rest of their

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group has officially bought the Washington Commanders or officially been approved to

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buy the Washington Commanders from much maligned owner Dan Schneider. Dan Schneider bought

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the team in 1999, eight years after they won the Super Bowl, seven years after they won

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the Super Bowl with Doug Williams. He bought the team in 1999. He's owned the team since

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24 years. He bought the team for 800 million. The Harris Johnson, I'm going to call the

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Harris Johnson group, the Harris Magic group bought the team for 6.05 billion. So about

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a 700% increase. So pretty, pretty solid financial gain. If I do say so myself, we will see that

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like Michael Jordan bought the Hornets for a couple hundred million and sold it for over

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$2 billion. So again, congratulations to the Harris Johnson group. Matt Johnson has been

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very emotional about what this means for him. He's owned the Sparks. He's been involved

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in Los Angeles Dodgers franchise as well. But he said Josh Harris called him to make

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him a one of the major partners in the Commanders, or at least as they're known now, the Commanders.

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Magic made it no secret that they're going to be looking into a potential rebrand of

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the Washington team. The fan favorite was not the Commanders. It's grown on me. I mean,

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the Washington football team grew on me after a while. But the Washington Commanders kind

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of started to grow on me, but they're looking at another complete rebrand according to Magic.

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They may get rebranded before next season starts. Now, that's a tight window. So I think

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they'd probably rebrand for the 2024 season. Because again, getting in for 2023 is a very

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tight window. Now, they've also been planning this purchase for months. So could they have

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already been discussing a rebrand and kind of have colors, logos, names, whatever in

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place? Very possible. Could there have been a deal with the NFL? Like if we buy the team,

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what's the deadline to re-change everything? What if they want to change their logo this

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season? You know what I'm saying? I mean, they keep the W. I don't know. But they're

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definitely saying that they want to go with a rebranding, which I figured new owner, it's

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not a traditional name. I'm going to say it. It's not the Washington Redskins where your

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tied to something. Because even though the ownership groups and some of these teams have

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changed, they've kept the name because the name is iconic. Well, the Redskins horrific

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name is gone. So no one's married to the Washington football team or the commanders.

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No one's married to either one. I think this is huge for the NFL. One, you get Dan Snyder

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out. Dan Snyder on his way out is going out with a sexual harassment case along with a

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workplace violation. He withheld millions of dollars from other teams in the league as

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far as the revenue sharing pot. Like horrible owner. They only went to six playoffs in 24

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years, two total wins, no NFL championship game appearance, no football appearance obviously,

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11 different head coaches, countless starting quarterbacks. Jay Gruden who, okay, Jay Gruden

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is an interesting source. The reason being is Jay Gruden was fired by Dan Snyder. Also

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Jay Gruden, Dan Snyder got his father fired because the emails between John Gruden and

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Jay Gruden is the reason why John Gruden is not still the head coach of Vegas. So he's

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an interesting source, but he came out and said, Oh, Dan Snyder would just pick a player,

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either one a guy in a free agency or draft a player in a draft and just be like, I'm

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the owner. I'm a draft. He's like, you didn't put any of the work in and all these months

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even begin to make this decision. He likes to play. He drafts him. Now, Jay Gruden was

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the head coach when the draft happened, when RG three went to and Kurt Cousins went in

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the fourth round and everybody went, why did you draft a quarterback in the same draft?

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You supposedly draft your franchise quarterback, especially with the fourth round. If you draft

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a seventh round pick quarterback, okay. Especially a guy that's like Lamar. Like, I mean, that's

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like RG three, like the Ravens did with Lamar. Like they have Tyler Huntley and they have

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another quarter. I can't think of the name right now, but they have two lesser versions

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of Lamar's backups. Kurt Cousins could not be more opposite of RG three. The only nation

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together is their faith. That's about it. They don't play the same. They don't look

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the same. They don't act the same. They don't talk the same. They don't walk the same. Like

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it felt like Dan Snyder's pick was RG three and Jay Gruden having no faith in RG three

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pick Kurt Cousins. Now, so that's some of the things I won't dive off into that. That

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gets discussed in quarterback. I won't dive off into that cause even Kurt Cousins was

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like, why are you like this? I don't want to go here. I'm not going to play cause RG

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three is here. Um, but Dan Snyder still on the team. So huge day for the NFL. Huge day,

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like I said, for the Josh Harris, Magic Johnson group. Um, you know, Magic spoke about it.

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He said when Harris called him about it, he was like, why are you doing this? And he was

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like, cause I want to win. And then he was okay. I'm in. Um, because Magic said he doesn't

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buy teams just to have a team. Um, yeah. Oh, I own the Dodgers. I own the commanders, whatever.

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Just to say he does it at a dinner party with his friends. Like he wants to win championships.

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Um, and so when he heard that Josh Harris was committed to doing that, he went in with

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the group. Um, I wonder, I do wonder one thing about this stuff before I move on from it.

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Um, Oh, Oh, backing up the dance nighter real quick. He has to pay $60 million to the NFL

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as a result for the fines he's getting from the Mary Jo, um, white, I think it's her last

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name, um, investigation along with other things he owes and fines and back, whatever to the

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NFL. He has to pay that on the way out. So Josh Harris money goes into his account and

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$60 million automatically draws straight to, um, the NFL. But what I was about to say was, um,

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I wonder how much control Magic has in the commanders. His wide savings, his emotional,

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and it's just everything he talks about it. He was emotional on Twitter. He was on GMA.

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He was emotional. He was at the, he was at the official press thing. After it was approved,

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he was emotional and it was more emotional than somebody saying it's full circle. I'm a black

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owner. I'm showing her the black where they can do this. I'm sitting in the standard. So on and so

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forth. It felt like literally he's going to own the commanders and it's not like Josh Harris bought

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it. Josh Harris has the 50s on the percent or the 60s of the percent, whatever. Josh Harris has it.

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Right. But Josh here also has the 76s and he also has the New Jersey Devils along with

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his other businesses. I wonder how much day to day magic Johnson's and because magic announced

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the rebrand, not Josh Harris, magic has been giving our interviews, not Josh Harris. So I wonder how

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much of the day to day, um, day to day operations magic is going to be involved in or the overview

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of the franchise and the shape and the structure and the scope and the alteration and the rebuilding

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and the building of a new stadium. And there are the other things that the commanders franchise

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desperately needs. I wonder how much in that will magic Johnson have due to the fact of

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he's been so openly emotional, openly communicative. And when we get news about the

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commanders, it's from magic. Um, and so I'm just wondering how big is he going to be in the every

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day, um, operations of the team considering that again, we're getting all our news from him.

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We've seen the emotional reaction from him. Um, not obvious. He's the biggest sports star than

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Josh Harris. So that could be just media coverage, but from everything I'm seeing about it, I'm

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getting my info from magic. Um, so that is definitely something to keep our eye on there.

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Look, congratulations to the house Johnson to the Harris Johnson group on purchasing the commanders.

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All right. The NFL's training camp window is open. Uh, pretty much teams are open. Now you see guys

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filling in their rosters, uh, that the giants picked up cold Beasley, uh, today. They also

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signed Melvin Gordon today. Um, so they are working on filling out their rosters, but two teams,

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everyone's keeping their eye on and they're from the same division is the Patriots and the jets

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for opposite reasons. Uh, the jets of course went green Bay East. They got in Rogers and his friends

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they got random cops. They got, I don't know, the sword, but they got certain talent to like a Gary

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Wilson, like a SARS Gardner. They brought back Quinn and Williams. Um, they have an issue with

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mccoy Bechtin, um, but they're going to be the hard knocks team. So everyone's interested in their

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training camp because as you watch their training camp, HV is going to be there filming their

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training camp. So you're ready to get to see that training camp as it moves. Um, now they're trying

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to get to being weird. They're trying to fight back on some of the hard knocks traditions. They're

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trying to get rid of the scenes where a player gets cut. And it's like, it's literally called

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at first it was called NFL training camp, hard knocks or school of hard knocks or something.

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It was basically like the purpose of the show is to show hard practices, hard hits,

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hard introductions, hard release moment. It was about how hard it is to literally make a roster

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in the NFL. The biggest rated parts are the parts where people get cut. Like I don't understand. I

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mean, I get it. It's not the prettiest thing to look at. If you, if you don't like awkward or

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sensitive, like it sucks to see a guy who worked his whole life, who's been playing football since

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he was five, who got, who kept playing my six round pick or got an undrather for agency contract.

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He makes a little noise in the preseason. So the camera stopped to follow him. And then when it

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came down to the cut to 53, he's got to turn to his iPad and clean out his locker. Like that does

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suck to see, right? Like it's not fun to watch, but that's what the show's about. Um, so I don't get

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the gesture and do that. I think they, if they, I think that they think if they can get HBO or

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the now max, they can get max in the NFL to agree to show that they can cut other stuff out too.

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Cause Aaron's going to say state prodigy. We've never seen Robert Sala in front of a camera.

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Nothing you hack it now. It's awful year in Denver. He's not going to be in the forefront.

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This makes a match. Like what if they look awful in the preseason and hard knocks comes

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and he looked awful in hard knocks. And then maybe they cut a couple of guys kind of harshly in hard

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knocks. They ended up making plays for the teams. Like this is a situation where you're trying to

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limit as much of the bad press as possible. I think it's what they're trying to do. And

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it's potentially setting them up to look worse because now you're having a situation where people

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are looking forward to certain moments. You're trying to get that away from them. I watched

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pre-season. I watched training camp hard knocks for the releases, for the cuts who gets cut,

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how late did they make it off a guy he got released trades, how, how people coach. I'm a coach.

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So I want to know how other people coach because I want to know, okay, the NFL, maybe there's

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something to do schematically on the board. I can take, give that to my kids. I take it from the NFL

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level to the high school level, but taking it to my kids, different strategies, different things

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they adjust to, how they could adjust to, you know, stuff like that. Like that's why people watch

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the preseason hard knocks for the cuts, the fights, the training camps, the stories, the cool,

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the cool rookies, who gets practice squad, who gets picked up waiting on that phone.

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That's why hard knocks exists in season hard knocks. You don't really have releases. You have

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trades maybe, but in season hard knocks, you get practice, development, strength, pain, play,

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practice, development, strength, pain, play, practice, development, strength on repeat.

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Like I said, unless there's a trade or something, or some big, like this is rarely a big release,

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but if there's a big release, it's not an inhumane moment. It's probably people you knew he got

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released. And that's another thing too. In season hard knocks happens that they only start showing

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it till like we see it in week nine and they film it in week five because they want to give a big

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enough gap where the film doesn't matter. And the inside information is like, no, that matters.

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They, and then if somebody got released, you know, like Carson Wentz got benched. So when you see

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Carson Wentz get benched, it's not a Carson Wentz got benched. In the preseason hard knocks, you may

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never heard of that guy. And it's happening like they'll, like let's say the first game is August

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14th. I mean, I should say, right? They'll play it on August 14th. You'll see that hard knocks like

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four days later. So if a guy released that Monday and it didn't just didn't trigger to your brain,

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like you knew the name or you knew the guy, like I'll just cut some receiver. You're going to see

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that receiver get cut four days later. You know what I'm saying? So that's something where the,

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just trying to fight away from that. And I just disagree with the premise of we're going to edit

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out one of the most popular moments of the show. That just feels bad to me. And then of course,

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all eyes are on the Patriots as well as they get Bill O'Brien and Bill Belichick. Now as we're on

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the Roman hot seat, he's 19 wins away from being the all time winning his coach. I believe Robert

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Kraft will get from two seasons to do it this year and next. Average nine and a half wins.

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He broke the record with 18 next year, losing the first time in the playoffs, retired, retires all

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time winning his coach. I don't think it's ever going to be broken. And so I just think, because

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my home is not going to have Andy Reed his whole career. Eventually my home is going to have a

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different coach. Andy Reed is not coaching. I mean, my home is only five years in. Andy Reed is not

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coaching 15 more seasons. And I thought the heir apparent was being in me. But obviously not. So

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I don't know what they're going to do, but I don't think that record is ever going to be broken.

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I think Bob Kraft gets him two seasons Belichick to break the record. He needs nine and a half wins

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to hear for the next two years. So he's the all time winning his coach ever. And I think that's

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what he's going for. And then I think he might walk away at that point. He's the greatest coach

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of all time. Most two balls at most wins. What else do you want? People looking at Mac Jones

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development year three. I want people to treat this year how people treated Trevor Lawrence rookie

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year, myself included. I did Trevor Lawrence rookie year the exact same way. Didn't exist.

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The Urban Meyer mess was such a tragedy as far as coaching this disaster and disorganization

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and Tim Tebow was a tight end like Gerber Meyer getting caught in clubs instead of flying back

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on the plane, cotton is local bar filling up a woman. Like it was a situ. It was just a disaster

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of a situation. He was coaching a league he admitted before he doesn't even watch. He was

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openly about I don't watch the NFL. And now you're coaching the number one overall pick,

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which pretty much everybody said he only took the job because Trevor Lawrence was a number one

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overall pick. Last year, Matt Patricia was the offensive coordinator. Matt Patricia grew up on

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the defensive side of the body in FL with the defensive head coaches on line and they became

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the play offensive play caller for Mac Jones. Interesting. And the quarterback coach was Joe

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Judge, who was a special teams coordinator, a bad head coach to the Giants made multiple bonehead

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decisions, especially offensively. And then he became the quarterback coach. So two of Belichick's

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cronies end up being the voices of comfort and reason in Mac Jones's life. Neither one of them

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could do offense. Interesting. So now that that's out of the building, Patricia started building

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entirely. Joe Judge is only titles assistant head coach that might as well be like, you ever seen

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the office? The white shrew always has to say assistant regional manager. And Michael Scott

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always has to say assistant to the regional manager. It's like the Belichick did it reverse.

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It's like he gave him the title of assistant head coach, but it might as well be assistant to the

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head coach. Like he's going to be doing Belichick's runs and errands. That's how I envision it. He has

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no position title. He's not on offense, he's not on defense. It just says assistant head coach.

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So I guess in the event Belichick gets sick and can't do immediate thing, Joe Judge does it.

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Other than that, he just waits on whatever Belichick needs him to do. Because again,

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he has no other title but assistant head coach. So that would be, that's going to be very interesting

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to watch. And then a couple of quick hitters. Justin Fields says he's going to throw 4,000 yards

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this year. I think he has to win seven games to keep his job. Why seven? That puts you out of the

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range of Drake May and Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams is the number one overall pick. I think

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Drake May is top five. Depending on what Jaden Daniel does at LSU, he may end up top 10. But I

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think if it came down to Jaden Daniels or a 6-11, 3,800 yard passing Justin Fields, the Bears may

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go with Justin Fields and just build around him. Use those assets to build around him. I think if

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Justin Fields plays well and they just don't win that many games, he survives Drake May. If they're

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2-15, he doesn't survive Caleb Williams. And then Caleb Williams, the number one overall pick,

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Justin Fields gets shipped out to who cares at that point probably. And then the Bears start over. And

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so I think he has to do everything in his power to avoid Caleb Williams. And then lastly, Netflix's

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quarterback has been picked up for a second season. Season one was amazing. If you haven't seen it,

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it was spectacular. Definitely dope. Kirk Cousins has the perfect life for Kirk Cousins in terms of

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his home life, his family life. Patrick Mahomes' home is spectacular. Family's a little crazy,

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but his home is spectacular. And then Marc Mareota, you got to see the different levels.

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Marc Mareota got released. Then he quit on the team, basically changed teams. So you kind of

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got to see those three different levels. I would love to see a rookie on it next year, personally.

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I don't think that's good for the rookie, having cameras follow him around in the rookie year.

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That's probably a bad idea. But I would love to see a Joe Burrow guy at the top, a guy at the middle,

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like a Derek Carr changing teams. And then maybe a rookie, maybe Anthony Richardson, a Desmond Ritter.

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Even though you just saw Atlanta. It's probably going to go back to Desmond Atlanta. But Anthony

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Richardson, a Bryce Young, one of these guys, one of these rookies who has an opportunity to lead a

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billion dollar business. Definitely see how their perspective is. But up next, we're going to shift

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to our best for last and talk about what's going down with college football.

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Welcome into best for last. And now we're going to discuss college football as media days have

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been roaring around the country, especially in the power five, the Pac-12s had theirs.

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I think that was today. Deion Sanders was not there due to another foot surgery. So prayers to him.

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Hopefully he gets through this. OK, the doctor recommended it's about straightening his toes

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to avoid pain and some something else. The SEC has had theirs. Georgia looks for a three-peat.

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LSU looks to bounce back and get to another title in 2019, which would be Brian Kelly's first.

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Alabama looks to shake back for the first time. There's no dominant quarterback in any wild in

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the SEC. In terms of like Stetson Bennett was at Georgia the past two years and they won titles.

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Bryce Young, two of Mac Jones, Jaylen Hurts for Alabama. LSU had Joe Burrow. Florida had Anthony

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Richardson. Steven Sankalana had Spencer Rattler. There's no elite quarterback that's staring you

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in the face. I think Jayden Daniels, the best quarterback in the conference. He's over at LSU.

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I think that's why they have an opportunity to win the conference because he's standing there.

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For them, I think LSU has probably the best 11-11 roster in the country. I just don't think they

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have the depth right now that they need to be dominating a couple bad injuries, a couple

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injuries in the wrong spots and they're in trouble, especially a receiver and corner.

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Inside linebacker as well, you've got the Pac-12s. Like I said, Kayla Williams. Colorado shows up as

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basically the new kids on the block. Even though they've been there, obviously it's Colorado,

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they're one of the new kids on the block because they bring in 70 new kids. This is nowhere near

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the roster that won one or two games last season. Of course, they're led by Travis Hunter, Shador

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Sanders, Deion Sanders, Shiloh Sanders, and the rest of that transfer crew. I would say they bring

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in 70 some odd transfers. That's a completely different looking team in Boulder, Colorado

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than their most last season. USC and UCLA are playing their final seasons in the Pac-12 before

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they shoot over to the Big Ten. Texas and Oklahoma are playing their last seasons in the Big 12 before

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they shoot over to the SEC. Brad Venables is on the high end of the pack. They're playing

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their last season in the Pac-12. I mean, Brad Venables is on the hot seat in Oklahoma. I think

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they missed with that hire. I just don't see Brad Venables as a head coach, big time head coach.

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Northwestern had their horrible scandal. They're trying to get their life together and get a head

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coach there. They've named an interim, but Ed Hojran-Poyle has interest in a job. John Cruden,

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I think, may actually work there. I don't know if they'll do it just because they're coming off

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but I think he would actually work there at Northwestern. Clemson's looking to bounce back

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and reclaim the ACC. Florida State may have their best team since Jameis Winston was there.

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I mean, college football is in a great state. Lane Kiffin calls it a bad spot because of NIL.

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Look, NIL is going to get fixed. There's senators and stuff with the support of the Power 5

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conferences trying to make NIL regulation. So, NIL is going to get fixed. But I'd rather have

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the kid get the money than the coach or the booster. That's just me. I'd rather the kid get

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the money than the president or the assistant coach or the uncle that never gives money to the

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kid. You know what I'm saying? I'd rather the kid get it directly in his bank account as opposed to

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going through the booster pays the uncle who then convinces the kid to go to whatever school to make

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sure the booster gives his uncle the other half the money and the kid never sees one dime and

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uncle's riding around in a new Ferrari. I'd rather the kid get the Ferrari deal or Angel

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Reese with her plenty of deals including Zoey Energy. I'd rather those people get the deals as

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opposed to the CD uncle or I think on one point a pastor got the Cam Newton thing. A pastor got

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involved in the Cam Newton thing. Marcus Dupree famously had people around him getting offers like

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Reggie Bush. This kind of stuff happens for years. So, now that we can at least cloak it a little bit

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in the words of NIL, this stuff's going to get fixed. So, I think that NIL is great for college

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sports. The transport portal is free agency. Literally, who has the highest NIL bid gets to

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top free agents almost every time. And then the kids hoping that they find a chair before the

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music stops. And I think it's greatly affecting and helping women's sports. Look at LSU's basketball

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team. I'm from Baton Rouge. I'm a LSU fan. I can point to them because I recognize them every day.

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Angel Reese has, oh my gosh, she has endorsements out of the Wazoo, Fajr Johnson, Hailey Van Lyth,

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Libby Doon, one of the two. These women have all these great NIL deals. I'm just thinking about

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this in totality. So, college football is in a great spot. I think they had to clean up NIL

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and the collectives a little bit because Deion Sanders doesn't speak bad about NIL. He speaks

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bad about collectives. So, I think that once that gets cleaned up, we're going to see a much better

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state of college football. But that is all I have for you today. As always, don't forget to like,

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rate, and subscribe to the Justin Times Boys podcast on iTunes and Spotify. And as always,

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this is your host, Justin Jackson, signing out.

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Thank you.

