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Welcome in to the show and now we are back for a season four episode of 19 of the Justin
Tompkins Sports Podcast. As always, I am your host and owner, Justin Jackson, and I am excited
to be back with you. Like I said last week, guys, I spoke about this last week rather.
Last week was the first time we've been together in about a month. I missed you guys a lot.
So it was cool getting you guys interaction on some things. I was doing some more things
out on social over the past week throwing together some of this BS with the NBA and
what's happening there and how everything is going back and forth in the NBA and now
it's kind of on a freeze because the NBA goes into kind of a freeze post-summer league.
The GMs are usually all in one place in summer league so if a big deal doesn't get done during
the summer league, that's when all the GMs and the execs and scouts and stuff take a
collective deep breath because it's the first time they've been able to relax. And so you
know you come out of the NBA season, if you're a team that, if you're a bad team, you're
looking pretty much probably from Christmas, definitely the All-Star break, you're already
saying, okay, we got to grind through summer league because you're assembling the rest
of your roster for the rest of the year, you're getting together probably dumping off trade
assets, picking up people in order to get extra draft capital, you're looking at your
summer league roster, who you want to pick in the draft, lottery odds, all that stuff.
If you're a great team, you're mentally trying to sprint through June and then as a staff,
as a player group, but then you're exactly trying to tinker with the roster last minute
to give yourselves the best chance to win the championship and you're also trying to
look at your summer league roster. So pretty much once the summer league happens and finishes,
congratulations to Imani Bates and the Cleveland Cavaliers on winning the summer league championships,
getting the second ever summer league rings. So kudos to those guys. Which by the way,
I think it's dope that they do summer league rings. A lot of these guys won't win NBA championships.
A lot of them won't play in the NBA ever. So it's pretty cool that these guys can always
say I was in the NBA, even if it's summer league, the NBA champion, I have a ring, a
championship ring that says NBA on it. So I thought that was pretty cool by the NBA
to do that. But congratulations to the Cavs again for winning summer league. But now the
entire league kind of takes a collective break because again, all the top executives, all
the GMs, most of the scouts, a lot of the coaching staffs and a lot of the star players
descend on Vegas at least for the first few days of summer, that first weekend or so,
everybody's there star wise because that's when you get a Victor when Viyama is going
to play. Brandon Miller is going to play. Jabari Smith Jr. is going to play. Like these
guys with some star power and these young rookies, Scoot Henderson is going to play.
They're going to play those first couple of games in the first weekend. If they play well,
they're shutting it down and they're not going to play going into pool, basically pull further
into pool play and then into the playoffs. They're not going to play in that. They're
just not going to. So you get as many kinds of things out. Stars leave. Scouts begin to
move on to the rest of their summer. Even executives for the most part have to move
on. Coaches and staffs may stick around, but people really start taking collective, like
I said, deep breath, a big hoo-sah in order to relax after the summer league. So that
leaves the NBA, however, with a two fold problem. And I spoke about it on Twitter when I did
a massive mock trade for the four of them. I did two over the past week. The two issues
are Portland Trailblazers guard Damian Lillard, Philadelphia 76ers guard James Harden. Why
are they issues? Well, for one, both of them have put in either a de facto trade requests
or a effective or a literal trade request between the two of them. So James Harden opted
into his $36.9 million player option for the upcoming season with a de facto trade request
that I'm doing this in order to get traded. So when I get to my next team, I'll extend
off this option. And then Damian Lillard finally, after years of people telling him to get out,
finally put in a trade request officially to the Portland Trailblazers organization.
That's not an issue in the grand scheme of life. Being traded on the last year of your
deals, pretty common for superstars. Anthony Davis comes to mind. Kawhi Leonard comes to
mind. You know that those are two guys that were traded as stars to their next destination
with the last year of their deal. Now it worked out for Anthony Davis and Lakers. They netted
a title and Anthony Davis resigned. It worked out for Toronto Raptors and Kawhi Leonard.
They netted a title and then Kawhi Leonard goes to the Clippers. But I'm just looking
at it from a perspective of trade requests are not uncommon by stars. It's perfectly
normal. It's the business that the NBA has set up. It's a perfectly normal situation.
The issue is not the fact that Damian Lillard, after years of being a poor, like staying
10 toes down, loyal to the soil, all that stuff he spewed, finally decided that, you
know, I locked in my last big contract. I kind of want to go in now. And so he decides
he wants out. Again, hardening the last year of your deal player option. Feeling like you're
not looking to pay me the contract I want. I know for team trades for me, they're going
to know what I want. They're going to know what I want before they make the deal. Once
the deal is traded, I'm going to immediately sign some new contract. Again, not abnormal
at all. The issue comes in the naming of the place. Now, Anthony Davis did it, right? Cool.
Anthony Davis was an expiring contract, right? He was also going to the Lakers that had LeBron
in a bunch of young pieces. The trade was a match made in basketball heaven. We had a
bunch of young guys on the Lakers looking for an opportunity to spread their wings and
fly, which wasn't going to have a chance to as long as LeBron was there. Plus he didn't
have the time for them to because he was trying to win a championship right then. And he had
a team in New Orleans that was going to have a high pick. It ended up being the number
one pick. If the Lakers get the number one pick, and the Davis is a Laker anyway, they
knew they had a superstar coming out in the draft in Zion Williamson. No one knew how
good Ja Morant was going to be, but you knew you had a superstar coming out in the draft
in Zion Williamson. Scouts were really high on Ja Morant. Again, no one saw this coming,
but Scouts were really high on Ja Morant. There was potential, there was rumors that,
oh, the Pelicans were trying to move four additional assets to come up with two and
have Zion in Ja Morant. It's like, okay, whatever. But anyway, you knew that was coming, right?
It was a match made in basketball heaven. And you're probably thinking to yourself,
well, James Harden is asking the same thing. He's asking him on the last year of my deal,
trade me, right? Rumor has it and it hasn't been denied. He wants to go to the Clippers.
Trade me to the Clippers. You know, you can have a bunch of picks, some pick swaps, a
couple of young guys, make the money work. Send me to the Clippers. The problem is the
Clippers are jammed up against the cap. Severely jammed up against the cap. They're wondering
how you know that? Because the rest of Westbrook signed for $3 million a year. That's how
jammed up against the cap they are. Paul George is a max player. Kawhi Leonard is a max player.
Their plan of Marcus Morris is a decent chunk of change. Evita Zubach is not cheap. Luke
Canard's got a bag. They have a lot of guys on their roster that's making a pretty penny.
And then you go to Dame's situation. He wants to go to Miami. Same thing. They're jammed
against the cap. So you're going to financially strap Miami down to where they have to just
peel and peel and peel in terms of assets. Strip pretty much everything all the way down
just to have a half decent shot at getting Dame or you're expecting Damian Lillard to
go to Miami for basically nothing, which doesn't feel likely in the slightest. Because of that,
I decided that I am going to do a mock trade. And this trade was designed in order to pretty
much show how unlikely this match would be. Right. And so it ended up being a 1, 2, 3,
4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 player trade. Obviously the 15 player trade is highly
unlikely. That would easily break the most players traded in a single trade. Easily.
Not even close. But in order to begin to get decent acquisitions for the Portland Trail
Blazers along with getting something back for Philly where they can try to still compete
with our Harden, plus working with these teams cap in mind. So for Miami and Philly or for
Miami and Clippers in theory, they're trying to fit the person in. They don't really have
a long term plan. Get them in, get them on the cap table. We can figure it out from there.
If you're Portland, I think you're trying to free up money. So you don't want to take
back multi. You don't want Tyler Hero $27,000 a year. You'd have to redirect Tyler Hero
basically overnight. Kyle Lowry is an asset they could pick up, but you're already trying
to train young guards. Kyle Lowry probably wants to win in this age his career. I don't
even think he would accept the trade to Portland. I think he'd probably just walk away. And
so with all that stuff being said, you try to get things where it makes sense for Portland
to get them along with financially they're not tied down to whoever is a three or four
year contract. So and it's posted on all my social medias, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram,
Twitter, Facebook, Instagram. I believe it's on threads. I'm not 1000% sure, but I think
it's on threads as well. But the trade ends up with Miami Heat getting Damien Liller and
Jaden Springer. Springer is a young guy from the 76ers. The Trail Blazers end up with Marcus
Morris on an expiring contract, Robert Covington on an expiring contract, Kayla Martin on two
years of variable manageable money, Forky and Corkmoss on a one year expiring contract,
Daniel House Jr. on a one year expiring contract, Josh Ridgerson on a two year variable manageable
deal and Nikola Jovic a young guy who they can build around also would include multiple
first round picks, picks, while sending packets of second round picks. The Los Angeles Clippers,
you end up with James Harden and then the Philadelphia 76ers in an attempt to try and
keep winning basketball games. They will pick up Tyler Hero, Duncan Robinson, KJ Martin,
Hayward Highsmith and Brandon Boston Jr. in a bevy of second round picks. Now again, I
said in the post, by no means is this trade perfect. It is not perfect at any and all
ways. Most people say, oh, why would Miami trade six people just to get Dame and Pat
Riley would never do that? Oh, why would the Clippers give up all this young talent just
to get James Harden? Exactly. That's my point. Either the Portland Chubb ladies are going
to give Damian Lillip for basically nothing and set the franchise of Portland back five
to 10 to 12 years. Now they have some young good guards. They have Anthony Simons, they
kept Matisse Stiebel. Of course, they drafted Scoob Henderson. They gave Jeremy Grant a
big bag. They probably convert Nurgage into some other things, but that's my issue. The
issue does not lie in the fact that the trade can't be done. The issue is not in the fact
of what are you going to give Portland? Same thing with my with Philadelphia and the 76ers,
Philadelphia and the Clippers rather. What are you going to give Philly to make it worth
James Harden? I gave Philly more than anybody else is giving Philly. And according to the
ESPN projection, they were still like minus like 16 wins. That's a situation where they
are losing to the times where Portland goes down, I think 10 wins losing game. But James
Harden is worth 16 wins apparently to the Philadelphia 76ers. That's hard to replace.
That's a situation where if you are going to have a 16 win drop off projection wise
and all these teams have analysis departments and departments that are designed to find
out what's the value of a 2030 umpire first time picked from Phoenix, you know, like all
these teams have these departments. If you're going to lose 16 wins for one player, do you
then trade Joel Embiid? Okay, Embiid goes to the highest bidder. Doesn't matter if it's
the same conference. Doesn't matter if it's the same division. Embiid to the highest bidder.
Um, because we're gonna I mean, there's not going to be an asset you get back unless he
goes to New York. Now I did the draft for New York a lot less is being moved because
you had certain people getting shipped in the trade that kind of made the money and
the value workout. So you didn't have to go so far with so many pieces being moved because
in the trade that centers around Philly. Oh, wait, no, that's another version of that trade.
Um, I did a version and multiple people fought back saying with Portland, Miami, Philly and
Clippers rather multiple people fought back saying, oh, it's not enough Portland and why
Portland take this deal and you got to give them more than just young guys nobody really
likes because I had them getting Brandon Boston, Hayward Highsmith, KJ Martin, Daniel Hobbs,
Robert Covington, Duncan Robinson and an attempt to not take back a whole bunch of money. Corkmize
and Dame goes to Miami. Philly gets hero and Powell. Clippers get hardened. Um, people
fought back on that. So when I expanded it, people thought it was too much. Like there's
no sweet spot for this deal to be made in terms of people getting the value that they
believe deserves to go to Portland and I given them too much from the other teams because
that's just the nature of trying to maneuver with the salary cap, trying to move and get
adequate value for the teams losing the superstars, which has never happened in NBA history. Whoever
is a superstar went to trade. It doesn't particularly matter. Nobody knows what the signing trade
deal was for the Cleveland Cavaliers or LeBron. No one knows what the deal was for a killer
crime to a Jabar. Like these people just don't, you know, you just don't, they don't matter
if you're not the superstar in the trade. So the NBA has a problem and their problem
is stars not only requesting trades, but they're requesting trades of very specific teams hamstring
in their own organizations, hamstring in their current GMs and they even attempting
to getting back equal value or some semblance of equal value or having a bidding war. Like
if you have superstar like Dame's agent, who really was a good one, already good one, already
good one, one of the two, Archie Goodwin, Aaron Goodwin, sorry. If you have a guy like
Aaron Goodwin going out and saying Dame's not going to come to camp. If you trade for
him and it's not the Miami Heat, Dame's is not going to go. Well, why as a team would
I even offer Portland something? If I know without a shadow of a doubt, I'm going to
be trading for an angry superstar. I'm going to be trading for a guy who's coming in upset,
who's coming in not ready, who's coming in not wanting to be there. That is an absolute
waste of time if I am any other organization, because if Dame's going to come in upset,
disgruntled, frustrated, however you want to put it, or just not come at all, I send
assets out for a person who doesn't want to be there. And how long is it? Six to eight
months before he's asking God in my city and I'm going to get less back than when I traded
for him. So organizations have to make that choice. Dame doesn't have a no trade clause.
When Bradley Bill got moved to Phoenix, Bradley had a no trade clause. So he controlled his
own destiny, but you had an opportunity to go to him as an organization. If you were
one like, if you were one to trade for him and go to him and say, Hey, Bradley, this
is what we see for you. This is how we see us winning. This is what we see happening
over the next few years. Boom, boom, boom, boom. This is what the projected trade would
be. This is how your teammates would be. This is how we felt the roster. You had the opportunity
to meet with him and go step by step before he waived his no trade laws for you. Dame
and Lilla doesn't have that. So he's using the media to strong arm people away from even
attempting to offer because they think, Oh man, Dame's not going to come. Dame's not
going to show up if we offer. What's the point of even offering? Dame's not coming. And that
is ridiculous. But that's a problem. He has four years left on his contract. Three years
plus a team option. If he doesn't show up, he either hits fine, leaves on the contract
and his contract tolls. He can't go to agency anytime soon. If the NBA owners and I'm always
for the players, but this is insane. I think owners in GMs, he's called his bluff. Either
Portland keeps them, which Portland GM has already said this could take months to get
done. Either Portland keeps them or they trade them to the highest bidder. However the highest
bidder may be if it's Miami, then by all means Miami. But if it's New Orleans, if it's New
York, if it's trying to get some other teams that might make the deal, the Clippers, like
if it's another organization that gives the highest bid, I say make the deal and dare
Dame not to show up and risk losing $200 million. Like that's the bet I would make against Dame.
I would call his bluff here. Harden is a little bit different situation. He's potentially
hamstringing and feeling from getting value back if I say he wants to be a Clipper or
by having it come out that he wants to be a Clipper. But it's a little bit of a different
situation than Damian Lillard considering Harden has about eight months left or these
are about 12 months left, 11 months left in Philly. Dame has at least three years left
in Portland under contract. So if I'm in Portland, like I said, I fight my best to get equal
value for him and I don't let him strong arm us into sending him to Miami for scraps and
pieces. So that will be my approach to the Dame Lillard situation. And for the rest of
the NBA, I call his bluff too by offering packages, making a trade and daring him not
to show up pretty much. But that is all I have for the NBA. Up next, we're going to
shift to the NFL and talk about going down with the Shield.
Welcome back into the show. And now we're going to jump to the NFL where there is a
new ownership group in the NFL. Josh Harris, his group led by Josh Harris, who owns the
Philly Leppie 76ers and the New Jersey Devils, along with Maddie Johnson, of course, NBA
Hall of Famer, Laker legend, world class entrepreneur and businessman, along with the rest of their
group has officially bought the Washington Commanders or officially been approved to
buy the Washington Commanders from much maligned owner Dan Schneider. Dan Schneider bought
the team in 1999, eight years after they won the Super Bowl, seven years after they won
the Super Bowl with Doug Williams. He bought the team in 1999. He's owned the team since
24 years. He bought the team for 800 million. The Harris Johnson, I'm going to call the
Harris Johnson group, the Harris Magic group bought the team for 6.05 billion. So about
a 700% increase. So pretty, pretty solid financial gain. If I do say so myself, we will see that
like Michael Jordan bought the Hornets for a couple hundred million and sold it for over
$2 billion. So again, congratulations to the Harris Johnson group. Matt Johnson has been
very emotional about what this means for him. He's owned the Sparks. He's been involved
in Los Angeles Dodgers franchise as well. But he said Josh Harris called him to make
him a one of the major partners in the Commanders, or at least as they're known now, the Commanders.
Magic made it no secret that they're going to be looking into a potential rebrand of
the Washington team. The fan favorite was not the Commanders. It's grown on me. I mean,
the Washington football team grew on me after a while. But the Washington Commanders kind
of started to grow on me, but they're looking at another complete rebrand according to Magic.
They may get rebranded before next season starts. Now, that's a tight window. So I think
they'd probably rebrand for the 2024 season. Because again, getting in for 2023 is a very
tight window. Now, they've also been planning this purchase for months. So could they have
already been discussing a rebrand and kind of have colors, logos, names, whatever in
place? Very possible. Could there have been a deal with the NFL? Like if we buy the team,
what's the deadline to re-change everything? What if they want to change their logo this
season? You know what I'm saying? I mean, they keep the W. I don't know. But they're
definitely saying that they want to go with a rebranding, which I figured new owner, it's
not a traditional name. I'm going to say it. It's not the Washington Redskins where your
tied to something. Because even though the ownership groups and some of these teams have
changed, they've kept the name because the name is iconic. Well, the Redskins horrific
name is gone. So no one's married to the Washington football team or the commanders.
No one's married to either one. I think this is huge for the NFL. One, you get Dan Snyder
out. Dan Snyder on his way out is going out with a sexual harassment case along with a
workplace violation. He withheld millions of dollars from other teams in the league as
far as the revenue sharing pot. Like horrible owner. They only went to six playoffs in 24
years, two total wins, no NFL championship game appearance, no football appearance obviously,
11 different head coaches, countless starting quarterbacks. Jay Gruden who, okay, Jay Gruden
is an interesting source. The reason being is Jay Gruden was fired by Dan Snyder. Also
Jay Gruden, Dan Snyder got his father fired because the emails between John Gruden and
Jay Gruden is the reason why John Gruden is not still the head coach of Vegas. So he's
an interesting source, but he came out and said, Oh, Dan Snyder would just pick a player,
either one a guy in a free agency or draft a player in a draft and just be like, I'm
the owner. I'm a draft. He's like, you didn't put any of the work in and all these months
even begin to make this decision. He likes to play. He drafts him. Now, Jay Gruden was
the head coach when the draft happened, when RG three went to and Kurt Cousins went in
the fourth round and everybody went, why did you draft a quarterback in the same draft?
You supposedly draft your franchise quarterback, especially with the fourth round. If you draft
a seventh round pick quarterback, okay. Especially a guy that's like Lamar. Like, I mean, that's
like RG three, like the Ravens did with Lamar. Like they have Tyler Huntley and they have
another quarter. I can't think of the name right now, but they have two lesser versions
of Lamar's backups. Kurt Cousins could not be more opposite of RG three. The only nation
together is their faith. That's about it. They don't play the same. They don't look
the same. They don't act the same. They don't talk the same. They don't walk the same. Like
it felt like Dan Snyder's pick was RG three and Jay Gruden having no faith in RG three
pick Kurt Cousins. Now, so that's some of the things I won't dive off into that. That
gets discussed in quarterback. I won't dive off into that cause even Kurt Cousins was
like, why are you like this? I don't want to go here. I'm not going to play cause RG
three is here. Um, but Dan Snyder still on the team. So huge day for the NFL. Huge day,
like I said, for the Josh Harris, Magic Johnson group. Um, you know, Magic spoke about it.
He said when Harris called him about it, he was like, why are you doing this? And he was
like, cause I want to win. And then he was okay. I'm in. Um, because Magic said he doesn't
buy teams just to have a team. Um, yeah. Oh, I own the Dodgers. I own the commanders, whatever.
Just to say he does it at a dinner party with his friends. Like he wants to win championships.
Um, and so when he heard that Josh Harris was committed to doing that, he went in with
the group. Um, I wonder, I do wonder one thing about this stuff before I move on from it.
Um, Oh, Oh, backing up the dance nighter real quick. He has to pay $60 million to the NFL
as a result for the fines he's getting from the Mary Jo, um, white, I think it's her last
name, um, investigation along with other things he owes and fines and back, whatever to the
NFL. He has to pay that on the way out. So Josh Harris money goes into his account and
$60 million automatically draws straight to, um, the NFL. But what I was about to say was, um,
I wonder how much control Magic has in the commanders. His wide savings, his emotional,
and it's just everything he talks about it. He was emotional on Twitter. He was on GMA.
He was emotional. He was at the, he was at the official press thing. After it was approved,
he was emotional and it was more emotional than somebody saying it's full circle. I'm a black
owner. I'm showing her the black where they can do this. I'm sitting in the standard. So on and so
forth. It felt like literally he's going to own the commanders and it's not like Josh Harris bought
it. Josh Harris has the 50s on the percent or the 60s of the percent, whatever. Josh Harris has it.
Right. But Josh here also has the 76s and he also has the New Jersey Devils along with
his other businesses. I wonder how much day to day magic Johnson's and because magic announced
the rebrand, not Josh Harris, magic has been giving our interviews, not Josh Harris. So I wonder how
much of the day to day, um, day to day operations magic is going to be involved in or the overview
of the franchise and the shape and the structure and the scope and the alteration and the rebuilding
and the building of a new stadium. And there are the other things that the commanders franchise
desperately needs. I wonder how much in that will magic Johnson have due to the fact of
he's been so openly emotional, openly communicative. And when we get news about the
commanders, it's from magic. Um, and so I'm just wondering how big is he going to be in the every
day, um, operations of the team considering that again, we're getting all our news from him.
We've seen the emotional reaction from him. Um, not obvious. He's the biggest sports star than
Josh Harris. So that could be just media coverage, but from everything I'm seeing about it, I'm
getting my info from magic. Um, so that is definitely something to keep our eye on there.
Look, congratulations to the house Johnson to the Harris Johnson group on purchasing the commanders.
All right. The NFL's training camp window is open. Uh, pretty much teams are open. Now you see guys
filling in their rosters, uh, that the giants picked up cold Beasley, uh, today. They also
signed Melvin Gordon today. Um, so they are working on filling out their rosters, but two teams,
everyone's keeping their eye on and they're from the same division is the Patriots and the jets
for opposite reasons. Uh, the jets of course went green Bay East. They got in Rogers and his friends
they got random cops. They got, I don't know, the sword, but they got certain talent to like a Gary
Wilson, like a SARS Gardner. They brought back Quinn and Williams. Um, they have an issue with
mccoy Bechtin, um, but they're going to be the hard knocks team. So everyone's interested in their
training camp because as you watch their training camp, HV is going to be there filming their
training camp. So you're ready to get to see that training camp as it moves. Um, now they're trying
to get to being weird. They're trying to fight back on some of the hard knocks traditions. They're
trying to get rid of the scenes where a player gets cut. And it's like, it's literally called
at first it was called NFL training camp, hard knocks or school of hard knocks or something.
It was basically like the purpose of the show is to show hard practices, hard hits,
hard introductions, hard release moment. It was about how hard it is to literally make a roster
in the NFL. The biggest rated parts are the parts where people get cut. Like I don't understand. I
mean, I get it. It's not the prettiest thing to look at. If you, if you don't like awkward or
sensitive, like it sucks to see a guy who worked his whole life, who's been playing football since
he was five, who got, who kept playing my six round pick or got an undrather for agency contract.
He makes a little noise in the preseason. So the camera stopped to follow him. And then when it
came down to the cut to 53, he's got to turn to his iPad and clean out his locker. Like that does
suck to see, right? Like it's not fun to watch, but that's what the show's about. Um, so I don't get
the gesture and do that. I think they, if they, I think that they think if they can get HBO or
the now max, they can get max in the NFL to agree to show that they can cut other stuff out too.
Cause Aaron's going to say state prodigy. We've never seen Robert Sala in front of a camera.
Nothing you hack it now. It's awful year in Denver. He's not going to be in the forefront.
This makes a match. Like what if they look awful in the preseason and hard knocks comes
and he looked awful in hard knocks. And then maybe they cut a couple of guys kind of harshly in hard
knocks. They ended up making plays for the teams. Like this is a situation where you're trying to
limit as much of the bad press as possible. I think it's what they're trying to do. And
it's potentially setting them up to look worse because now you're having a situation where people
are looking forward to certain moments. You're trying to get that away from them. I watched
pre-season. I watched training camp hard knocks for the releases, for the cuts who gets cut,
how late did they make it off a guy he got released trades, how, how people coach. I'm a coach.
So I want to know how other people coach because I want to know, okay, the NFL, maybe there's
something to do schematically on the board. I can take, give that to my kids. I take it from the NFL
level to the high school level, but taking it to my kids, different strategies, different things
they adjust to, how they could adjust to, you know, stuff like that. Like that's why people watch
the preseason hard knocks for the cuts, the fights, the training camps, the stories, the cool,
the cool rookies, who gets practice squad, who gets picked up waiting on that phone.
That's why hard knocks exists in season hard knocks. You don't really have releases. You have
trades maybe, but in season hard knocks, you get practice, development, strength, pain, play,
practice, development, strength, pain, play, practice, development, strength on repeat.
Like I said, unless there's a trade or something, or some big, like this is rarely a big release,
but if there's a big release, it's not an inhumane moment. It's probably people you knew he got
released. And that's another thing too. In season hard knocks happens that they only start showing
it till like we see it in week nine and they film it in week five because they want to give a big
enough gap where the film doesn't matter. And the inside information is like, no, that matters.
They, and then if somebody got released, you know, like Carson Wentz got benched. So when you see
Carson Wentz get benched, it's not a Carson Wentz got benched. In the preseason hard knocks, you may
never heard of that guy. And it's happening like they'll, like let's say the first game is August
14th. I mean, I should say, right? They'll play it on August 14th. You'll see that hard knocks like
four days later. So if a guy released that Monday and it didn't just didn't trigger to your brain,
like you knew the name or you knew the guy, like I'll just cut some receiver. You're going to see
that receiver get cut four days later. You know what I'm saying? So that's something where the,
just trying to fight away from that. And I just disagree with the premise of we're going to edit
out one of the most popular moments of the show. That just feels bad to me. And then of course,
all eyes are on the Patriots as well as they get Bill O'Brien and Bill Belichick. Now as we're on
the Roman hot seat, he's 19 wins away from being the all time winning his coach. I believe Robert
Kraft will get from two seasons to do it this year and next. Average nine and a half wins.
He broke the record with 18 next year, losing the first time in the playoffs, retired, retires all
time winning his coach. I don't think it's ever going to be broken. And so I just think, because
my home is not going to have Andy Reed his whole career. Eventually my home is going to have a
different coach. Andy Reed is not coaching. I mean, my home is only five years in. Andy Reed is not
coaching 15 more seasons. And I thought the heir apparent was being in me. But obviously not. So
I don't know what they're going to do, but I don't think that record is ever going to be broken.
I think Bob Kraft gets him two seasons Belichick to break the record. He needs nine and a half wins
to hear for the next two years. So he's the all time winning his coach ever. And I think that's
what he's going for. And then I think he might walk away at that point. He's the greatest coach
of all time. Most two balls at most wins. What else do you want? People looking at Mac Jones
development year three. I want people to treat this year how people treated Trevor Lawrence rookie
year, myself included. I did Trevor Lawrence rookie year the exact same way. Didn't exist.
The Urban Meyer mess was such a tragedy as far as coaching this disaster and disorganization
and Tim Tebow was a tight end like Gerber Meyer getting caught in clubs instead of flying back
on the plane, cotton is local bar filling up a woman. Like it was a situ. It was just a disaster
of a situation. He was coaching a league he admitted before he doesn't even watch. He was
openly about I don't watch the NFL. And now you're coaching the number one overall pick,
which pretty much everybody said he only took the job because Trevor Lawrence was a number one
overall pick. Last year, Matt Patricia was the offensive coordinator. Matt Patricia grew up on
the defensive side of the body in FL with the defensive head coaches on line and they became
the play offensive play caller for Mac Jones. Interesting. And the quarterback coach was Joe
Judge, who was a special teams coordinator, a bad head coach to the Giants made multiple bonehead
decisions, especially offensively. And then he became the quarterback coach. So two of Belichick's
cronies end up being the voices of comfort and reason in Mac Jones's life. Neither one of them
could do offense. Interesting. So now that that's out of the building, Patricia started building
entirely. Joe Judge is only titles assistant head coach that might as well be like, you ever seen
the office? The white shrew always has to say assistant regional manager. And Michael Scott
always has to say assistant to the regional manager. It's like the Belichick did it reverse.
It's like he gave him the title of assistant head coach, but it might as well be assistant to the
head coach. Like he's going to be doing Belichick's runs and errands. That's how I envision it. He has
no position title. He's not on offense, he's not on defense. It just says assistant head coach.
So I guess in the event Belichick gets sick and can't do immediate thing, Joe Judge does it.
Other than that, he just waits on whatever Belichick needs him to do. Because again,
he has no other title but assistant head coach. So that would be, that's going to be very interesting
to watch. And then a couple of quick hitters. Justin Fields says he's going to throw 4,000 yards
this year. I think he has to win seven games to keep his job. Why seven? That puts you out of the
range of Drake May and Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams is the number one overall pick. I think
Drake May is top five. Depending on what Jaden Daniel does at LSU, he may end up top 10. But I
think if it came down to Jaden Daniels or a 6-11, 3,800 yard passing Justin Fields, the Bears may
go with Justin Fields and just build around him. Use those assets to build around him. I think if
Justin Fields plays well and they just don't win that many games, he survives Drake May. If they're
2-15, he doesn't survive Caleb Williams. And then Caleb Williams, the number one overall pick,
Justin Fields gets shipped out to who cares at that point probably. And then the Bears start over. And
so I think he has to do everything in his power to avoid Caleb Williams. And then lastly, Netflix's
quarterback has been picked up for a second season. Season one was amazing. If you haven't seen it,
it was spectacular. Definitely dope. Kirk Cousins has the perfect life for Kirk Cousins in terms of
his home life, his family life. Patrick Mahomes' home is spectacular. Family's a little crazy,
but his home is spectacular. And then Marc Mareota, you got to see the different levels.
Marc Mareota got released. Then he quit on the team, basically changed teams. So you kind of
got to see those three different levels. I would love to see a rookie on it next year, personally.
I don't think that's good for the rookie, having cameras follow him around in the rookie year.
That's probably a bad idea. But I would love to see a Joe Burrow guy at the top, a guy at the middle,
like a Derek Carr changing teams. And then maybe a rookie, maybe Anthony Richardson, a Desmond Ritter.
Even though you just saw Atlanta. It's probably going to go back to Desmond Atlanta. But Anthony
Richardson, a Bryce Young, one of these guys, one of these rookies who has an opportunity to lead a
billion dollar business. Definitely see how their perspective is. But up next, we're going to shift
to our best for last and talk about what's going down with college football.
Welcome into best for last. And now we're going to discuss college football as media days have
been roaring around the country, especially in the power five, the Pac-12s had theirs.
I think that was today. Deion Sanders was not there due to another foot surgery. So prayers to him.
Hopefully he gets through this. OK, the doctor recommended it's about straightening his toes
to avoid pain and some something else. The SEC has had theirs. Georgia looks for a three-peat.
LSU looks to bounce back and get to another title in 2019, which would be Brian Kelly's first.
Alabama looks to shake back for the first time. There's no dominant quarterback in any wild in
the SEC. In terms of like Stetson Bennett was at Georgia the past two years and they won titles.
Bryce Young, two of Mac Jones, Jaylen Hurts for Alabama. LSU had Joe Burrow. Florida had Anthony
Richardson. Steven Sankalana had Spencer Rattler. There's no elite quarterback that's staring you
in the face. I think Jayden Daniels, the best quarterback in the conference. He's over at LSU.
I think that's why they have an opportunity to win the conference because he's standing there.
For them, I think LSU has probably the best 11-11 roster in the country. I just don't think they
have the depth right now that they need to be dominating a couple bad injuries, a couple
injuries in the wrong spots and they're in trouble, especially a receiver and corner.
Inside linebacker as well, you've got the Pac-12s. Like I said, Kayla Williams. Colorado shows up as
basically the new kids on the block. Even though they've been there, obviously it's Colorado,
they're one of the new kids on the block because they bring in 70 new kids. This is nowhere near
the roster that won one or two games last season. Of course, they're led by Travis Hunter, Shador
Sanders, Deion Sanders, Shiloh Sanders, and the rest of that transfer crew. I would say they bring
in 70 some odd transfers. That's a completely different looking team in Boulder, Colorado
than their most last season. USC and UCLA are playing their final seasons in the Pac-12 before
they shoot over to the Big Ten. Texas and Oklahoma are playing their last seasons in the Big 12 before
they shoot over to the SEC. Brad Venables is on the high end of the pack. They're playing
their last season in the Pac-12. I mean, Brad Venables is on the hot seat in Oklahoma. I think
they missed with that hire. I just don't see Brad Venables as a head coach, big time head coach.
Northwestern had their horrible scandal. They're trying to get their life together and get a head
coach there. They've named an interim, but Ed Hojran-Poyle has interest in a job. John Cruden,
I think, may actually work there. I don't know if they'll do it just because they're coming off
but I think he would actually work there at Northwestern. Clemson's looking to bounce back
and reclaim the ACC. Florida State may have their best team since Jameis Winston was there.
I mean, college football is in a great state. Lane Kiffin calls it a bad spot because of NIL.
Look, NIL is going to get fixed. There's senators and stuff with the support of the Power 5
conferences trying to make NIL regulation. So, NIL is going to get fixed. But I'd rather have
the kid get the money than the coach or the booster. That's just me. I'd rather the kid get
the money than the president or the assistant coach or the uncle that never gives money to the
kid. You know what I'm saying? I'd rather the kid get it directly in his bank account as opposed to
going through the booster pays the uncle who then convinces the kid to go to whatever school to make
sure the booster gives his uncle the other half the money and the kid never sees one dime and
uncle's riding around in a new Ferrari. I'd rather the kid get the Ferrari deal or Angel
Reese with her plenty of deals including Zoey Energy. I'd rather those people get the deals as
opposed to the CD uncle or I think on one point a pastor got the Cam Newton thing. A pastor got
involved in the Cam Newton thing. Marcus Dupree famously had people around him getting offers like
Reggie Bush. This kind of stuff happens for years. So, now that we can at least cloak it a little bit
in the words of NIL, this stuff's going to get fixed. So, I think that NIL is great for college
sports. The transport portal is free agency. Literally, who has the highest NIL bid gets to
top free agents almost every time. And then the kids hoping that they find a chair before the
music stops. And I think it's greatly affecting and helping women's sports. Look at LSU's basketball
team. I'm from Baton Rouge. I'm a LSU fan. I can point to them because I recognize them every day.
Angel Reese has, oh my gosh, she has endorsements out of the Wazoo, Fajr Johnson, Hailey Van Lyth,
Libby Doon, one of the two. These women have all these great NIL deals. I'm just thinking about
this in totality. So, college football is in a great spot. I think they had to clean up NIL
and the collectives a little bit because Deion Sanders doesn't speak bad about NIL. He speaks
bad about collectives. So, I think that once that gets cleaned up, we're going to see a much better
state of college football. But that is all I have for you today. As always, don't forget to like,
rate, and subscribe to the Justin Times Boys podcast on iTunes and Spotify. And as always,
this is your host, Justin Jackson, signing out.
Thank you.