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So, hi.

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I was waiting for that.

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Welcome back to another episode of the DAK Live.

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I am Koelle.

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And I'm Kenna.

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And I'm Hillary.

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We have Hillary with us today.

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So excited.

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And this is our first time doing a DAK Live via the internet.

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We are on Discord right now so we can hear Hillary and we're recording it from two different states.

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I think this is going to open up a few more doors.

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So I'm excited.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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This has definitely been a learning experience for us because I was like figuring out how to work Discord at all.

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I've never even downloaded it.

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But also trying to get all of the wheels turning.

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But I think it sounds pretty good.

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For new listeners, would you like to explain what a DAK Live is?

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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So every once in a while we do a bonus segment that we call the DAK Live or Diagnosing a Killer Live.

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And we bring on various guests.

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This is going to be the fourth installment of that this week or this time around.

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Excuse me, we have Hillary and we just kind of chat and we talk about anything and all things true crime or mental health or just anything in general like personal stories.

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I know one time we had Mom on and she talked about a personal true crime story, which is pretty cool.

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And yeah, no editing.

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So you might hear us clearing our throats.

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Yeah.

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And I am under the weather as well.

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So forgive me if I'm blowing my nose or taking sips of my little vitamin water thing over here.

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Well, yeah, we're super excited to have you, Hillary.

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And thanks for making the time for us.

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I know that you had a long day today.

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Yeah, no problem.

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I'm nervous.

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I don't know what to do.

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It's weird when you're not on your own podcast.

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I know you're not the host.

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I think I felt the same way though when I was a guest on your podcast.

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I was like, when do I talk?

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When do I not?

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Yeah, exactly.

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So I guess just tell the listeners a little bit more about yourself and your podcast.

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So I'm Hillary.

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I am part of the Lady You're Scare-Nose podcast.

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We did do the collab with you guys on the Follyadoo slash Trump family story.

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So that was fun.

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We really enjoyed that.

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But we do so we do longer videos on Tuesdays like on our channel, you're guaranteed an episode on Tuesdays on true crime or just maybe like conspiracy or anything just weird or, you know, anything like that.

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And then we try on Thursdays to do like a mini bonus episode on just whatever we feel like it may be like 10 minutes, 15 minutes or five minutes, just something a little extra might be a funny article, something like that.

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But yeah, it's me and Taylor.

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And we started out with Morgan, but she's out living her best life.

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Yeah, different guests come in every now and then or we just tell each other stories.

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That's awesome.

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I honestly get kind of disappointed when I go to your podcast and it's only 10 minutes because I like listening to you guys.

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I'm like, oh man, it's only a 10 minute episode.

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But yeah, some stuff is like hard like to find a lot of information and then it's like I don't want to do too much banter.

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Yeah, we have a problem with that.

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Well, we have recently.

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But that's why we like to do these DK lives because I feel like we can get it all out and then people can still kind of get to know us, but we're not doing it all on this like true crime episode when they're like, all right, get to the fucking point, you know, right?

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Because I'm bad about reading like forums and people are like, there's too much banter and such and such as podcast or I like such and such because they're just straight to the point.

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So I'm like, I just want to please everybody.

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Yeah.

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We actually did get a review recently that said that the person was like, they are so great, they do so much research and they get right to the point.

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Like, I don't really have a lot of patience.

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So they get right to the point.

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The next episode we started bantering.

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So we have somebody else that said, oh, I love listening to more about you guys.

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I love, you know, getting invested in you guys too.

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So it's the best of both worlds.

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Yeah, you got to give everyone a little something, something.

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Right.

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And then there's a bad viewer that's like, oh, well, you know, we want to know what you guys look like or it's like good to put a face to the voice or put, you know, get a feel for who you guys are.

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Yeah, definitely.

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We I think we've posted maybe like two photos of ourselves on the DAK Instagram, but mostly it's just content.

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I'm really guilty about using my personal Instagram more often than my DAK one.

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Oh, same.

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I haven't posted anything on my DAK one, no, it's not a single post, tons of stories, not a single post.

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I think I've posted three posts, but it's just like photos of me.

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And then when I post like me and Casey together, I don't tag him because I don't want people following him from there.

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Like, I just want it to be me.

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It's all about me.

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So that means, right?

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No, I'm just kidding.

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Well, yeah, that's really cool, honestly.

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And I was telling Kowell earlier, it was kind of kismet almost that we ended up meeting because, you know, once you create a brand like this and, you know, you start to get involved.

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And, you know, you start to get invested in social media with different podcasters and, you know, you get similar requests or similar suggestions for people that kind of have like a similar page to you.

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And I think that's how, I don't know if it was, you guys came across us or vice versa, but either way, I came across y'all's name in our followers or following list.

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And, you know, I was telling Kowell, I like to give newer podcasts a shot, right?

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Even if you have three episodes, I want to hear what you would got because if it's good in the beginning, odds are it's going to be good like forever, right?

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And that just happened to be one of them.

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And then I think I shot you guys a message and I was like, you guys are so funny.

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I love like all the, you know, playful banter and you guys are hilarious and be nicer to Morgan.

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She's such a sweet baby.

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It's funny.

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I remember that.

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I remember I sent that message and I felt so weird.

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But here we are now.

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Right?

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So, yeah.

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You know, you really made it when you can, when Ken and I, not that like, you know, our word matters, but when we just toss around lady, like, we're just like, oh, on lady.

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Like, you don't have to say later, scared us.

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We just know.

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On lady.

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When I listen to you guys and you guys like say that, I'm like, yeah, that's us.

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Yeah, that's us.

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They're talking about us.

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But I was telling a friend at work today, I was like, oh, when I get off, I got to go do this and that and this and that. And then I'm, you know, gonna do a little live podcast with another podcasters.

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It's the ones that did the Trump family with us, blah, blah, blah.

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And she's like, oh, yeah, I like them.

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She's like, I listened to, I've listened to a few of their things and I like them.

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That's sweet.

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I love that.

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So we were saying, speaking of work and where we are and stuff with our coworkers, that we are obviously in two different states to us, but maybe not people listening.

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We are in Texas and Hillary, you guys are in Florida.

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Tell us about Florida.

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I don't think I've ever been to Florida.

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Really?

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I like it.

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We have the like crazy Florida rep reputation.

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But you know what?

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I heard on one podcast that the reason Florida gets such a crazy rep rap, rap, whatever is because like the news isn't as censored or something.

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So that's why you see so many crazy stories coming from Florida.

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As opposed to other states, it's just because something about the news not being a censor or something.

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I don't know.

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But I was telling kind of earlier, I was like, do you think that Florida man is like the Tasmanian devil or the Jersey devil?

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That's what it was.

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Like a local legend.

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It's like the moth man.

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It just happens to be one Florida man.

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Well, I don't know.

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Go ahead, Hillary.

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Sorry.

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No, but I like, I love it here.

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Right now it's rainy, but you know, I love going to the beach and all that good stuff.

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It blows my mind that y'all's panhandle is a different time zone than the rest of Florida.

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Just about to say that.

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That's so strange.

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I was just about to say it was crazy to me when I realized that we were in the same time zone.

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Like because if you go once you hit the capital, Tallahassee, it goes to Eastern time.

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It's just nuts because I've been to Michigan so many times and it's an hour ahead.

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But then when Ken and I looked on the map, we're like, well, duh, because the earth is round.

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It makes sense that it kind of widens towards the bottom.

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It's really weird.

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That is really weird.

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I don't know.

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I'd like to go over there.

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We went when we were much younger.

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We were four.

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I think four or five.

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That was the very first time that I ever realized or I guess mom realized that she gave me her

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motion sickness because I got so sick on the plane and they didn't know what it was, but

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mom is like chronic motion sickness.

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And I remember that the only thing I remember from that trip was laying down in the airport,

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like on one of the couches is I was so sick.

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You don't remember knocking out Cameron's tooth?

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With my knee?

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With your knee.

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I didn't know that was the same trip.

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I do remember that.

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It was, yeah, it was right after you almost got hit by a car running through the parking

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Awesome.

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Jesus.

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Reckless child.

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I mean, do as the locals do, right?

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Just become crazy Floridians.

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That's awesome.

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Is all of Texas, does all of this, this might be a stupid question.

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Is all of Texas, does it have the same time zone like the whole state?

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Yes.

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Is there really?

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It's not a stupid question because it takes eight hours to get across like horizontally.

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So it's not a stupid question, but yeah, we're all in the same time zone.

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Alabama is the same because I'm actually from Alabama.

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So like where I live is the central time zone, but like my, I have family members that live

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like up in North Alabama and they're in the Eastern time zone too.

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Huh.

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That's really insane.

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That's so weird.

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It's like El Paso is like the farthest West city that we have and it's right by Arizona

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and like where New Mexico and Arizona kind of meet.

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That's like what starts the mountain time.

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Because Colorado is like right above that.

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So we're like right on the cusp essentially in El Paso, but El Paso is actually it's not

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eight hours across.

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It's like probably 10 because we're eight hours from El Paso right now.

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Or maybe more than that because we're six hours the other way.

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I don't know.

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It's a long way across.

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At least four hours to four or five hours to Lake Charles, Louisiana.

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No, it's six.

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Six.

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So it's 14 hours across.

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No.

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Florida's long enough.

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Florida's East West.

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Because it takes like when we go to Orlando, it takes me about seven hours.

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I misspoke.

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Now that I think about it, it's 14 hours because we're almost in the center in the middle.

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It's six hours to Lake Charles and then it's eight hours to El Paso.

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It was about 12 to 14 to go across the entire state horizontally.

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Well, it's going to Google it because we've lived here for 30 fucking years and we don't

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It's too massive.

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Can we just break it in half?

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It's huge.

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Just break off.

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I just looked it up too because I'm like, how so basically if you go like to the Everglades

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National Park, which is almost at the end of Florida, it's takes like it would take

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me like nine, 10 hours.

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That's crazy.

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And you're very north Florida?

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Yeah.

245
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Like northeast?

246
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Northwest.

247
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Northwest.

248
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Oh, oh, duh.

249
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That makes sense.

250
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Yeah.

251
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About 12 to 14 hours.

252
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Okay.

253
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See, I'm glad I corrected myself because I sounded really dumb into a bunch of other

254
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Texans in the beginning.

255
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No, you did it.

256
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So, and I think I told you I've been to the airport in Texas.

257
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Well, no, I was in Texas for like a few days, but I haven't done any like big Texas stuff.

258
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I didn't know that.

259
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I know that Taylor was born here.

260
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She said she was born at.

261
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She's one of the air force bases here or one of the military bases here in San Antonio.

262
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But you were here as well?

263
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Just for like a couple of days, just like a little vacation thing in San Antonio or in

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Texas.

265
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I went to the San Antonio airport.

266
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Oh, yeah.

267
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I went to like a little just like a little friend camp thing.

268
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I don't remember where exactly in Texas it was.

269
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So it was like in the middle of nowhere, but it was a few hours from San Antonio.

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That could literally be anywhere.

271
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Right.

272
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But not too far.

273
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Yeah, exactly.

274
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You have still been next to San Antonio.

275
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Well, thanks.

276
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I'm gonna go to Dallas DFW and George Bush Airport many times.

277
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Gotcha.

278
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Yeah, well, thank you.

279
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Cause I mean, obviously the listeners don't know much about you as well, but I feel like

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we didn't know all that about you either.

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And I think if I'm not mistaken, this is you and Coel's first time talking like via

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mobile talking.

283
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Yeah, absolutely.

284
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Cause I've like sent her, you know, like she'll post something on Instagram and I'll

285
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be like, like she posted something to Jeff Goldblum and I was like, I fucking love Jeff

286
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Goldblum.

287
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It was my friend's couch, right?

288
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Wasn't it?

289
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Yeah.

290
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Yeah.

291
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Like he only gets better with age.

292
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So true.

293
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Yeah.

294
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I wish I could meet him.

295
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He's definitely on my top.

296
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I think I would die.

297
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Probably.

298
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Yeah, same.

299
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I wouldn't fan girl for a lot of people, but I think I would just be like in awe.

300
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I just, I don't know what it is.

301
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Well, he's a taller dude, of course.

302
00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:30,380
I like tall, like tall, nerdy dudes.

303
00:13:30,380 --> 00:13:35,820
So like Joel McHale or Steven Merchant, everybody gives me shit for that one.

304
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Conan O'Brien.

305
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I'll take Conan O'Brien.

306
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That makes me think of that.

307
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I don't, Kenna, you probably haven't seen it.

308
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Coel, you probably, Sugar and Spice.

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Do you remember that movie?

310
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I'm Sugar and Spice.

311
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The one with the big afros?

312
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No, it was like Cheerleaders and they robbed the bank cause the one's private.

313
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I'm thinking of something.

314
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I'm thinking of an episode of that story.

315
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Are you the useful train?

316
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Okay.

317
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But one of them is obsessed with Conan O'Brien.

318
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Oh, that's funny.

319
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No, I don't think I've seen that.

320
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Sugar and Spice.

321
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It's funny.

322
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It's really funny.

323
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I think it's, if I'm not mistaken, I think Hillary is like right in between our ages,

324
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so it's like a perfect like middle, I think.

325
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I'm not going to ask you how old you are.

326
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I'm 35.

327
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I don't care saying I'm 35.

328
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Yeah, I'm 35.

329
00:14:15,300 --> 00:14:16,300
No, I'm 32.

330
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Yeah, I'm 28.

331
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So yeah.

332
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I'm 28 in a month.

333
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And Taylor's your age.

334
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28.

335
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Is she?

336
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What's your zodiac?

337
00:14:24,860 --> 00:14:25,860
I'm an Aries.

338
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You're an Aries?

339
00:14:26,860 --> 00:14:27,860
Okay.

340
00:14:27,860 --> 00:14:30,860
You're April, early April?

341
00:14:30,860 --> 00:14:31,860
10th, yeah.

342
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Yeah, her birthday.

343
00:14:32,860 --> 00:14:33,860
10th?

344
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I actually told her happy birthday this year.

345
00:14:34,860 --> 00:14:35,860
Interesting.

346
00:14:35,860 --> 00:14:36,860
Yeah.

347
00:14:36,860 --> 00:14:40,540
I don't know anything about the zodiac, but people have told me that March Aries are

348
00:14:40,540 --> 00:14:43,540
terrible and April Aries are good.

349
00:14:43,540 --> 00:14:48,260
My like entire dating record is Aries, so I think you're in good hands here.

350
00:14:48,260 --> 00:14:49,260
Yeah.

351
00:14:49,260 --> 00:14:50,820
My boyfriend is an Aquarius.

352
00:14:50,820 --> 00:14:51,820
Oh, really?

353
00:14:51,820 --> 00:14:52,820
Do I know any Aquaruses?

354
00:14:52,820 --> 00:14:53,820
Was Cameron an Aquarius?

355
00:14:53,820 --> 00:14:54,820
No, Cameron's an Aquarius.

356
00:14:54,820 --> 00:14:55,820
No, she's not.

357
00:14:55,820 --> 00:14:56,820
I'm a Capricorn.

358
00:14:56,820 --> 00:14:57,820
Oh, you're right.

359
00:14:57,820 --> 00:14:58,820
You're a Capricorn.

360
00:14:58,820 --> 00:14:59,820
I'm a Capricorn.

361
00:14:59,820 --> 00:15:05,820
No, then she's a...maybe she was an Aquarius, I don't know.

362
00:15:05,820 --> 00:15:06,820
Aquarius is...

363
00:15:06,820 --> 00:15:07,820
I don't know the signs.

364
00:15:07,820 --> 00:15:09,340
I know my sign and I know Casey's sign.

365
00:15:09,340 --> 00:15:10,340
Right.

366
00:15:10,340 --> 00:15:12,300
When's your boyfriend's just a month?

367
00:15:12,300 --> 00:15:13,300
What's February?

368
00:15:13,300 --> 00:15:14,300
Okay, yeah.

369
00:15:14,300 --> 00:15:15,300
Oh, it's still pretty close.

370
00:15:15,300 --> 00:15:16,300
Yeah, Aquarius.

371
00:15:16,300 --> 00:15:17,300
She was the 29th of January.

372
00:15:17,300 --> 00:15:18,300
Yeah.

373
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Wait, January.

374
00:15:19,300 --> 00:15:21,660
That makes sense.

375
00:15:21,660 --> 00:15:25,540
Well, I am a diagnosing killer for all your zodiac signs.

376
00:15:25,540 --> 00:15:27,500
Yeah, it's diagnosing a zodiac sign.

377
00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:28,500
There you go.

378
00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:33,700
I am a cancer and Casey's a Leo and supposedly cancer and Leo are best friends, so really.

379
00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:34,700
That's cute.

380
00:15:34,700 --> 00:15:35,700
Yeah, it's really cute.

381
00:15:35,700 --> 00:15:36,700
We're in a world.

382
00:15:36,700 --> 00:15:37,700
It's really cute.

383
00:15:37,700 --> 00:15:40,660
Also, me and Hillary have figured out that we're dating the same person pretty much.

384
00:15:40,660 --> 00:15:41,660
Oh, really?

385
00:15:41,660 --> 00:15:45,460
Like, her boyfriend and Casey are like very similar in what we know about them.

386
00:15:45,460 --> 00:15:49,260
I literally told him before this, I was like, no turkey calls, okay?

387
00:15:49,260 --> 00:15:53,820
Because she's the one that was on the podcast when you were doing all those stupid turkey

388
00:15:53,820 --> 00:15:55,820
calls and you embarrassed me.

389
00:15:55,820 --> 00:15:56,820
You embarrassed me.

390
00:15:56,820 --> 00:15:58,300
So, I'm quiet this time.

391
00:15:58,300 --> 00:15:59,300
That's totally Casey.

392
00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:00,300
Yeah, that's Casey.

393
00:16:00,300 --> 00:16:05,900
I think I might have said this on Lady when I was the guest, but Casey was over here the

394
00:16:05,900 --> 00:16:10,220
other day and then your son was like, hey, Casey, do you want to hear my duck call?

395
00:16:10,220 --> 00:16:11,860
And Casey was like, oh yeah, bud.

396
00:16:11,860 --> 00:16:13,700
And then your son goes, come here, duck.

397
00:16:13,700 --> 00:16:14,700
Come here, duck.

398
00:16:14,700 --> 00:16:15,700
Right, it's the air.

399
00:16:15,700 --> 00:16:16,700
That's hilarious.

400
00:16:16,700 --> 00:16:17,700
Oh, it was so funny.

401
00:16:17,700 --> 00:16:18,700
Casey could not stop laughing.

402
00:16:18,700 --> 00:16:22,980
I was on a TikTok and it could not come out of my head, like at all.

403
00:16:22,980 --> 00:16:25,180
So I taught my son.

404
00:16:25,180 --> 00:16:28,060
What do you call a blind deer?

405
00:16:28,060 --> 00:16:29,060
No-eyed deer?

406
00:16:29,060 --> 00:16:30,060
Yeah.

407
00:16:30,060 --> 00:16:31,060
Oh, that's a good one.

408
00:16:31,060 --> 00:16:33,260
I let say a deer with no eyes.

409
00:16:33,260 --> 00:16:35,380
It's like too obvious.

410
00:16:35,380 --> 00:16:37,740
I couldn't remember what it was, so I just said that.

411
00:16:37,740 --> 00:16:38,740
No-eyed deer.

412
00:16:38,740 --> 00:16:40,700
The punchline is no-eyed deer.

413
00:16:40,700 --> 00:16:41,700
Yeah.

414
00:16:41,700 --> 00:16:43,620
I have one if y'all want to hear another corny joke.

415
00:16:43,620 --> 00:16:44,620
Okay.

416
00:16:44,620 --> 00:16:46,700
What do you call a guy with a rubber toe?

417
00:16:46,700 --> 00:16:48,900
I don't know.

418
00:16:48,900 --> 00:16:50,900
I don't know.

419
00:16:50,900 --> 00:16:52,900
Rubber toe.

420
00:16:52,900 --> 00:16:53,900
Rubber toe.

421
00:16:53,900 --> 00:16:54,900
Rubber toe.

422
00:16:54,900 --> 00:16:58,700
Every time you hear rubber toe, all you can think of is the water boy.

423
00:16:58,700 --> 00:16:59,700
Rubbo toe.

424
00:16:59,700 --> 00:17:00,700
Rubbo toe.

425
00:17:00,700 --> 00:17:01,700
Yeah.

426
00:17:01,700 --> 00:17:06,580
So one time someone told me a joke and it was like, what do you call a dude in the middle

427
00:17:06,580 --> 00:17:08,740
of the ocean with no arms and no legs?

428
00:17:08,740 --> 00:17:10,900
And I was like legitimately was like dead.

429
00:17:10,900 --> 00:17:13,420
And they were like, no, Bob.

430
00:17:13,420 --> 00:17:15,940
I just nailed that same vertical well.

431
00:17:15,940 --> 00:17:17,940
And I was like, oh, dead.

432
00:17:17,940 --> 00:17:20,940
And they're like, oh my god, no.

433
00:17:20,940 --> 00:17:21,940
No.

434
00:17:21,940 --> 00:17:22,940
They were offended.

435
00:17:22,940 --> 00:17:23,940
Bob.

436
00:17:23,940 --> 00:17:24,940
I'm like, I don't know.

437
00:17:24,940 --> 00:17:25,940
I thought I was good.

438
00:17:25,940 --> 00:17:26,940
I thought I was good.

439
00:17:26,940 --> 00:17:27,940
I don't know which one's worse.

440
00:17:27,940 --> 00:17:36,940
What do you call a guy with no arms and no legs on your front porch?

441
00:17:36,940 --> 00:17:37,940
Matt.

442
00:17:37,940 --> 00:17:38,940
Oh.

443
00:17:38,940 --> 00:17:39,940
Did you make that up?

444
00:17:39,940 --> 00:17:40,940
No, I heard that one before.

445
00:17:40,940 --> 00:17:41,940
Oh, okay.

446
00:17:41,940 --> 00:17:42,940
God, this is terrible.

447
00:17:42,940 --> 00:17:43,940
This is like a terrible D.A.K. live.

448
00:17:43,940 --> 00:17:45,940
I should put like a disclaimer off.

449
00:17:45,940 --> 00:17:47,940
Don't listen if you hate pet jokes.

450
00:17:47,940 --> 00:17:50,180
No, this is great.

451
00:17:50,180 --> 00:17:51,180
It's been a day.

452
00:17:51,180 --> 00:17:54,940
I've been watching that Natalia Grace documentary.

453
00:17:54,940 --> 00:17:55,940
Oh my god.

454
00:17:55,940 --> 00:17:56,940
Have you been watching it?

455
00:17:56,940 --> 00:17:57,940
I figured you would.

456
00:17:57,940 --> 00:18:01,940
That's why I held it in until we could talk about it because I figured you might have

457
00:18:01,940 --> 00:18:02,940
watched it.

458
00:18:02,940 --> 00:18:04,940
It might have been me slapping my legs.

459
00:18:04,940 --> 00:18:06,940
I thought I heard like the door open.

460
00:18:06,940 --> 00:18:09,860
Also, again, we all know we don't stop.

461
00:18:09,860 --> 00:18:10,860
We don't pause.

462
00:18:10,860 --> 00:18:11,860
We don't edit on these.

463
00:18:11,860 --> 00:18:12,860
So cool.

464
00:18:12,860 --> 00:18:13,860
I was blowing her nose.

465
00:18:13,860 --> 00:18:17,100
Yeah, it might have been my bottle opening.

466
00:18:17,100 --> 00:18:20,100
Oh, no, I don't know.

467
00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:23,240
Yeah, I'm in episode three.

468
00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,940
Is there only three episodes or is there a fourth?

469
00:18:25,940 --> 00:18:26,940
I think there's four.

470
00:18:26,940 --> 00:18:27,940
Yeah.

471
00:18:27,940 --> 00:18:30,020
Yeah, I'm in the latter half of the third episode.

472
00:18:30,020 --> 00:18:31,540
It's just blowing my mind.

473
00:18:31,540 --> 00:18:32,540
I know.

474
00:18:32,540 --> 00:18:36,940
And it gets to a point where it's like, okay, the little girl is not the problem here.

475
00:18:36,940 --> 00:18:37,940
Right.

476
00:18:37,940 --> 00:18:38,940
The parents are douches.

477
00:18:38,940 --> 00:18:40,780
That guy is such a douche.

478
00:18:40,780 --> 00:18:41,780
Is he not like...

479
00:18:41,780 --> 00:18:50,300
I was just watching it and I was like, oh, hmm, this guy is a lot.

480
00:18:50,300 --> 00:18:54,980
The way he was speaking to her in the apartment and he's like, where'd you get the donuts?

481
00:18:54,980 --> 00:18:57,540
And she's like, I'm not even kidding.

482
00:18:57,540 --> 00:18:59,420
Where did you get the donuts?

483
00:18:59,420 --> 00:19:00,740
And she's like, I don't know.

484
00:19:00,740 --> 00:19:04,820
I found them in my cabinet and he's like, huh, that's funny because I didn't buy you

485
00:19:04,820 --> 00:19:09,380
donuts and me and what's her face are the only two people that buy you groceries.

486
00:19:09,380 --> 00:19:10,940
So where did you get the donuts?

487
00:19:10,940 --> 00:19:13,580
And she's like, a neighbor brought them.

488
00:19:13,580 --> 00:19:14,580
Why would she do that?

489
00:19:14,580 --> 00:19:15,580
Yeah.

490
00:19:15,580 --> 00:19:18,820
And she was like, hmm, well, you do lie a lot.

491
00:19:18,820 --> 00:19:19,820
So...

492
00:19:19,820 --> 00:19:20,820
Yeah.

493
00:19:20,820 --> 00:19:22,060
He goes, yeah, well, you do lie a lot.

494
00:19:22,060 --> 00:19:23,060
Damn.

495
00:19:23,060 --> 00:19:24,620
I feel like this is all spoilers over here.

496
00:19:24,620 --> 00:19:25,620
It's just...

497
00:19:25,620 --> 00:19:27,620
He's so mean.

498
00:19:27,620 --> 00:19:30,220
That's the adoptive dad?

499
00:19:30,220 --> 00:19:31,620
Adoptive dad.

500
00:19:31,620 --> 00:19:38,860
And they like move her into this apartment because they think that she's like an adult.

501
00:19:38,860 --> 00:19:39,860
And so they...

502
00:19:39,860 --> 00:19:40,860
But she is.

503
00:19:40,860 --> 00:19:41,860
Is she?

504
00:19:41,860 --> 00:19:42,860
I don't watch them.

505
00:19:42,860 --> 00:19:43,860
I know.

506
00:19:43,860 --> 00:19:44,860
You have to watch it.

507
00:19:44,860 --> 00:19:45,860
But isn't she?

508
00:19:45,860 --> 00:19:49,620
So they like move her into this apartment and so they just like sequester her there.

509
00:19:49,620 --> 00:19:51,660
She's got like a food stamp card.

510
00:19:51,660 --> 00:19:55,100
But the whole thing is the fact that she has a very...

511
00:19:55,100 --> 00:19:56,740
She has dwarfism.

512
00:19:56,740 --> 00:20:00,820
So she can't really take care of herself even if she is an adult.

513
00:20:00,820 --> 00:20:01,820
And then it's like...

514
00:20:01,820 --> 00:20:02,820
And they made that point later.

515
00:20:02,820 --> 00:20:03,820
Yeah.

516
00:20:03,820 --> 00:20:06,500
Like in the trial, they were like, we need to go from that stance.

517
00:20:06,500 --> 00:20:07,500
That's so awful.

518
00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:08,500
It is awful.

519
00:20:08,500 --> 00:20:12,540
Just reminds me of that one documentary about that boy that pretended like he was the mis...

520
00:20:12,540 --> 00:20:15,940
It was like that man that pretended like he was the family's missing boy and came to

521
00:20:15,940 --> 00:20:16,940
live with them.

522
00:20:16,940 --> 00:20:17,940
Yeah.

523
00:20:17,940 --> 00:20:18,940
That'd be interesting.

524
00:20:18,940 --> 00:20:19,940
Have you...

525
00:20:19,940 --> 00:20:25,340
Or the woman who said she was in the towers of 9-11 and she wasn't.

526
00:20:25,340 --> 00:20:26,340
Have you seen that one?

527
00:20:26,340 --> 00:20:27,340
What?

528
00:20:27,340 --> 00:20:28,340
You haven't seen that one?

529
00:20:28,340 --> 00:20:29,340
I haven't even heard of that.

530
00:20:29,340 --> 00:20:30,340
It's on Netflix.

531
00:20:30,340 --> 00:20:31,340
It's really fucked up.

532
00:20:31,340 --> 00:20:33,660
The woman who wasn't there or something like that.

533
00:20:33,660 --> 00:20:34,660
Yeah.

534
00:20:34,660 --> 00:20:35,660
What the fuck?

535
00:20:35,660 --> 00:20:37,060
Who thinks of these things?

536
00:20:37,060 --> 00:20:42,580
She went on a forum and came up with this whole story that she and her fiancee worked

537
00:20:42,580 --> 00:20:44,700
in the towers and he died.

538
00:20:44,700 --> 00:20:45,700
And she survived.

539
00:20:45,700 --> 00:20:46,700
And she lived.

540
00:20:46,700 --> 00:20:51,060
And she's reaching out to all these survivors and like, oh, I totally understand how you

541
00:20:51,060 --> 00:20:53,020
feel because of this and that.

542
00:20:53,020 --> 00:20:58,020
She would get with the survivors in groups with them and mourn with them.

543
00:20:58,020 --> 00:20:59,020
Yeah.

544
00:20:59,020 --> 00:21:02,180
Like there is something seriously going on up there.

545
00:21:02,180 --> 00:21:04,340
That takes a particular type of person, right?

546
00:21:04,340 --> 00:21:06,900
It takes a particular type of mental disorder.

547
00:21:06,900 --> 00:21:09,580
And that's absolutely horrendous.

548
00:21:09,580 --> 00:21:11,380
It's like people, I mean, I've heard it before too.

549
00:21:11,380 --> 00:21:15,020
People that have claimed that they are going through chemotherapy or they claim that they

550
00:21:15,020 --> 00:21:18,940
have cancer or that they're pregnant and they try, ultrasound that they just find on

551
00:21:18,940 --> 00:21:19,940
Google or whatever.

552
00:21:19,940 --> 00:21:20,940
That's just scary.

553
00:21:20,940 --> 00:21:22,940
Like, squirrel ultrasounds?

554
00:21:22,940 --> 00:21:23,940
Squirrel ultrasounds.

555
00:21:23,940 --> 00:21:24,940
Man, that's a squirrel.

556
00:21:24,940 --> 00:21:25,940
Oh my God.

557
00:21:25,940 --> 00:21:26,940
That's so awful.

558
00:21:26,940 --> 00:21:27,940
Wow.

559
00:21:27,940 --> 00:21:35,940
Speaking of squirrels, I was watching Stuart Little before we sat down to her.

560
00:21:35,940 --> 00:21:40,820
I know, but it just reminded me and it's such a bizarre movie.

561
00:21:40,820 --> 00:21:42,820
Like I only got like 25 minutes.

562
00:21:42,820 --> 00:21:46,580
I've seen it before a thousand times, but I haven't seen it in a while.

563
00:21:46,580 --> 00:21:49,700
It's Michael J. Fox as a mouse with speakers and a car.

564
00:21:49,700 --> 00:21:55,220
Well, no, George is the only one that knows what the fuck is up because he's like, he's

565
00:21:55,220 --> 00:21:56,220
not my brother.

566
00:21:56,220 --> 00:21:57,220
He's a mouse.

567
00:21:57,220 --> 00:21:58,220
No, he's not.

568
00:21:58,220 --> 00:22:00,740
Don't touch your brother that way.

569
00:22:00,740 --> 00:22:01,740
Come on.

570
00:22:01,740 --> 00:22:02,740
Yeah.

571
00:22:02,740 --> 00:22:03,740
Yeah, seriously.

572
00:22:03,740 --> 00:22:07,660
And I didn't, that's so funny that you say that's Michael J. Fox because of course it

573
00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:11,500
is now that you say that I remember that, but I was also thinking as I was listening,

574
00:22:11,500 --> 00:22:14,860
oh my God, that's the same guy that voices Chance from Homeward Bound.

575
00:22:14,860 --> 00:22:15,860
Oh, thank you.

576
00:22:15,860 --> 00:22:16,860
And of course it's Michael J. Fox.

577
00:22:16,860 --> 00:22:19,380
Because I literally was thinking who it was.

578
00:22:19,380 --> 00:22:23,740
Yeah, I was thinking because Stuart Little of course has the same voice as Chance, but

579
00:22:23,740 --> 00:22:25,780
I was like, who is that guy that you reminded me?

580
00:22:25,780 --> 00:22:26,780
Of course it's Michael J. Fox.

581
00:22:26,780 --> 00:22:27,780
Shadow.

582
00:22:27,780 --> 00:22:28,780
I mean Peter.

583
00:22:28,780 --> 00:22:29,780
Oh my God, stop.

584
00:22:29,780 --> 00:22:30,780
That's the worst.

585
00:22:30,780 --> 00:22:31,780
I love that movie.

586
00:22:31,780 --> 00:22:33,900
I watch that movie when I want to cry.

587
00:22:33,900 --> 00:22:38,140
Like if I feel like I need to cry, but I can't get it out without a reason.

588
00:22:38,140 --> 00:22:39,140
You just fast forward to the end.

589
00:22:39,140 --> 00:22:40,460
No, I watch the whole thing.

590
00:22:40,460 --> 00:22:43,140
Just wait for Shadow to come out from the middle.

591
00:22:43,140 --> 00:22:44,140
I'm doing the arm.

592
00:22:44,140 --> 00:22:45,780
I can't help but do the arms.

593
00:22:45,780 --> 00:22:46,780
He's limping.

594
00:22:46,780 --> 00:22:50,700
Did you watch the, did you ever watch the sequel when they were in San Francisco?

595
00:22:50,700 --> 00:22:51,700
No, I didn't.

596
00:22:51,700 --> 00:22:53,860
I'm very weird about sequels.

597
00:22:53,860 --> 00:22:55,420
I don't think that they're going to be as good.

598
00:22:55,420 --> 00:22:56,420
Is it good?

599
00:22:56,420 --> 00:22:57,420
It's a good one.

600
00:22:57,420 --> 00:22:58,420
It's good as always.

601
00:22:58,420 --> 00:22:59,820
I think I watched it more than I watched the first one.

602
00:22:59,820 --> 00:23:02,780
If you watched Home Alone in New York, you got to watch this one.

603
00:23:02,780 --> 00:23:05,780
Well, yeah, Home Alone 2 lost in New York, The Height of Luxury.

604
00:23:05,780 --> 00:23:06,780
For sure.

605
00:23:06,780 --> 00:23:07,780
That's the better one.

606
00:23:07,780 --> 00:23:11,180
No, the Height of Luxury is from John Mulaney.

607
00:23:11,180 --> 00:23:15,580
He's like, I remember seeing him getting the stretch limo with a large cheese pizza.

608
00:23:15,580 --> 00:23:18,020
He's like, this is the Height of Luxury.

609
00:23:18,020 --> 00:23:20,340
He's like, now I live in New York.

610
00:23:20,340 --> 00:23:21,340
It sucks.

611
00:23:21,340 --> 00:23:22,340
New York's nice.

612
00:23:22,340 --> 00:23:24,220
I want to go back to New York.

613
00:23:24,220 --> 00:23:25,860
Have you been to New York, Hillary?

614
00:23:25,860 --> 00:23:26,860
No.

615
00:23:26,860 --> 00:23:29,660
I think the only time I would want to go would be Christmas time.

616
00:23:29,660 --> 00:23:31,380
I think it's because of that movie.

617
00:23:31,380 --> 00:23:37,540
Yeah, we went in January a couple of years ago, Ferco Wells' birthday, and it was beautiful.

618
00:23:37,540 --> 00:23:41,180
It was fucking freezing, but it was beautiful.

619
00:23:41,180 --> 00:23:43,740
And it only snowed twice when we were there.

620
00:23:43,740 --> 00:23:47,860
And I was like, does it ever snow where you guys are?

621
00:23:47,860 --> 00:23:48,860
Once.

622
00:23:48,860 --> 00:23:51,220
Texas gets snow sometimes, doesn't it?

623
00:23:51,220 --> 00:23:52,220
Like parts of Texas.

624
00:23:52,220 --> 00:23:57,140
But where we're from, it's very rare, and if it does, it doesn't stick because it's

625
00:23:57,140 --> 00:24:02,300
so hot on the ground, but we did have snow vid in February of 2021.

626
00:24:02,300 --> 00:24:03,300
Snow vid.

627
00:24:03,300 --> 00:24:04,300
Snow vid.

628
00:24:04,300 --> 00:24:10,060
And we got 24 or 26 inches of snow over the course of like two or three days.

629
00:24:10,060 --> 00:24:11,060
And this is the first time.

630
00:24:11,060 --> 00:24:12,060
It's crazy.

631
00:24:12,060 --> 00:24:19,100
That's the first time it snowed more than like two inches since like 80, or 87 or something.

632
00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:20,100
So no.

633
00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:21,620
Answer your question.

634
00:24:21,620 --> 00:24:22,620
It doesn't.

635
00:24:22,620 --> 00:24:23,620
It gets cold.

636
00:24:23,620 --> 00:24:29,140
And people, I think we have some people that are friends of ours that are Northern people

637
00:24:29,140 --> 00:24:33,820
and they get surprised every year that they're like, wow, it's really cold.

638
00:24:33,820 --> 00:24:34,980
But it just doesn't snow.

639
00:24:34,980 --> 00:24:37,340
It's probably the humidity or something.

640
00:24:37,340 --> 00:24:44,900
If you go about an hour north towards Austin, then they sometimes get snow almost yearly.

641
00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:49,540
Well, I mean, even round rocked up to Waco, like they get snow almost every year, and

642
00:24:49,540 --> 00:24:51,660
that's like two and a half hours up like north.

643
00:24:51,660 --> 00:24:55,660
It's not even that far, but we just aren't so lucky, I guess.

644
00:24:55,660 --> 00:24:56,660
But honestly, I don't know.

645
00:24:56,660 --> 00:24:58,180
I'm so acclimated to the heat now.

646
00:24:58,180 --> 00:25:02,340
Like the heat index was 111 today.

647
00:25:02,340 --> 00:25:03,340
It doesn't bother me at all.

648
00:25:03,340 --> 00:25:05,220
And I know, yeah, you're saying over there.

649
00:25:05,220 --> 00:25:10,300
Do you guys have, I know that you guys run off the coast as well, but would you consider

650
00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:12,260
it to be like extremely humid down there?

651
00:25:12,260 --> 00:25:16,500
Or I feel like it for some reason it would be less like it would be more of a dry like

652
00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:20,180
tropical rather than like, no, it's pretty humid.

653
00:25:20,180 --> 00:25:25,500
Sometimes I know I had someone I know from France visit one time and she like stepped

654
00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:27,540
off the airplane and was like, I feel like I can't breathe.

655
00:25:27,540 --> 00:25:28,540
Oh yeah.

656
00:25:28,540 --> 00:25:30,380
No, that's definitely a shock to the system.

657
00:25:30,380 --> 00:25:32,020
It's like breathing.

658
00:25:32,020 --> 00:25:36,020
And then like when I went to, I went to Thailand and we were in the jungle and everybody's

659
00:25:36,020 --> 00:25:38,620
like dying and I'm like, it feels fine to me.

660
00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:40,180
Koel's going to cry right now.

661
00:25:40,180 --> 00:25:41,180
You just love me.

662
00:25:41,180 --> 00:25:43,500
I want to go to Thailand so bad.

663
00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:44,500
It's fine.

664
00:25:44,500 --> 00:25:45,500
It's really fun.

665
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:46,500
Did you get to see elephants?

666
00:25:46,500 --> 00:25:48,740
Yeah, but I feel bad about it now.

667
00:25:48,740 --> 00:25:49,740
I love elephants.

668
00:25:49,740 --> 00:25:51,540
Elephants are my favorite animals.

669
00:25:51,540 --> 00:25:54,180
I do love a Thai elephant over an African elephant.

670
00:25:54,180 --> 00:25:55,180
We're just cute.

671
00:25:55,180 --> 00:25:57,180
Yeah, we rode the elephant we rode.

672
00:25:57,180 --> 00:26:00,580
His name was Annie and I think she was like 30 or 31 years old.

673
00:26:00,580 --> 00:26:01,580
Oh my gosh.

674
00:26:01,580 --> 00:26:02,580
So sweet.

675
00:26:02,580 --> 00:26:03,580
Yeah.

676
00:26:03,580 --> 00:26:06,100
I love that for you.

677
00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:08,300
I would say, you know, that's awful.

678
00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:15,060
And of course, I don't believe in, you know, in prisoning animals, you know, only for

679
00:26:15,060 --> 00:26:22,540
a reservation, not reservation, but it's just a different culture, you know.

680
00:26:22,540 --> 00:26:23,540
Yeah.

681
00:26:23,540 --> 00:26:26,940
And like retrospect, I look back and I'm like, I kind of wish I wouldn't have done that,

682
00:26:26,940 --> 00:26:30,900
like, because they can say all day that, oh, we rescued them, but you don't know.

683
00:26:30,900 --> 00:26:31,900
Yeah.

684
00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:34,180
I have a difference of opinion.

685
00:26:34,180 --> 00:26:35,180
I know.

686
00:26:35,180 --> 00:26:36,180
Can I go hunting?

687
00:26:36,180 --> 00:26:37,180
Well, so does Hillary.

688
00:26:37,180 --> 00:26:38,180
My boyfriend does too.

689
00:26:38,180 --> 00:26:39,180
Oh, okay.

690
00:26:39,180 --> 00:26:41,180
Well, I'm not going to say for Hillary.

691
00:26:41,180 --> 00:26:42,180
Her boyfriend does.

692
00:26:42,180 --> 00:26:45,860
It's different with deer, I guess population control or something.

693
00:26:45,860 --> 00:26:46,860
I don't know.

694
00:26:46,860 --> 00:26:47,860
Yeah.

695
00:26:47,860 --> 00:26:48,860
Wait, do you guys have a bunch of deer down there?

696
00:26:48,860 --> 00:26:51,860
I act like Florida's like a foreign fucking country.

697
00:26:51,860 --> 00:26:53,860
White tail deer to be exact.

698
00:26:53,860 --> 00:26:54,860
That's so stupid.

699
00:26:54,860 --> 00:26:55,860
It's like the same year.

700
00:26:55,860 --> 00:27:00,340
I was literally, yeah, I was talking to a hunter and I was like, yeah, her boyfriend's in Texas.

701
00:27:00,340 --> 00:27:01,340
What kind of deer do they have?

702
00:27:01,340 --> 00:27:04,620
He's like, I think they have mule deer and I'm pretty sure they have white tail deer.

703
00:27:04,620 --> 00:27:05,620
We have a white tail.

704
00:27:05,620 --> 00:27:06,740
We have axis.

705
00:27:06,740 --> 00:27:08,140
We have black buck.

706
00:27:08,140 --> 00:27:09,380
We have mule deer.

707
00:27:09,380 --> 00:27:10,380
We have.

708
00:27:10,380 --> 00:27:11,380
I'll tell him.

709
00:27:11,380 --> 00:27:12,380
I'm like, what about the different things?

710
00:27:12,380 --> 00:27:13,860
I was like, well, what about turkeys?

711
00:27:13,860 --> 00:27:18,300
He's like, well, they have the something something turkey or they call it the Rio turkey.

712
00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:21,500
Here we have the Osceola turkeys down south and up in the north we have.

713
00:27:21,500 --> 00:27:22,500
And I'm like, okay.

714
00:27:22,500 --> 00:27:23,500
I love it.

715
00:27:23,500 --> 00:27:27,420
See, that's, I love, like sometimes if I want to just hear Casey talk, I'll ask him a very

716
00:27:27,420 --> 00:27:30,300
simple question like that and he'll go off in this long tangent on something.

717
00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:31,900
And I'm like, I love you.

718
00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:36,580
You tell him when we go fishing, like I don't fish, but I'll wire it on the boat with him

719
00:27:36,580 --> 00:27:37,940
on like the river.

720
00:27:37,940 --> 00:27:39,900
And the whole time I just ask him stupid questions.

721
00:27:39,900 --> 00:27:41,940
I'll be like, do we have badgers in Florida?

722
00:27:41,940 --> 00:27:42,940
And he's like, no.

723
00:27:42,940 --> 00:27:44,620
I'm like, what about wombats?

724
00:27:44,620 --> 00:27:45,620
And he's like, no.

725
00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:49,780
I'm like, what about just name random animals?

726
00:27:49,780 --> 00:27:54,100
Or if I really want to get him going, I'll be like, hey, can you tell me what the cold

727
00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:55,100
war was about?

728
00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:56,100
Like, what was that?

729
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:57,100
What was that?

730
00:27:57,100 --> 00:27:58,260
And it's like drunk history.

731
00:27:58,260 --> 00:27:59,340
Like he's not even drunk.

732
00:27:59,340 --> 00:28:01,060
He's sober as fuck, but it's like drunk history.

733
00:28:01,060 --> 00:28:02,820
So these guys were fucking assholes.

734
00:28:02,820 --> 00:28:05,220
And then they were trying to fuck with these guys and are also assholes, but like they're

735
00:28:05,220 --> 00:28:06,220
bigger assholes.

736
00:28:06,220 --> 00:28:09,580
I love it.

737
00:28:09,580 --> 00:28:10,580
Florida has cute squirrels.

738
00:28:10,580 --> 00:28:13,460
They're like those black squirrels with the smaller tails.

739
00:28:13,460 --> 00:28:14,900
We have black squirrels here, though.

740
00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:15,900
Every once in a while.

741
00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:16,900
They just not very common.

742
00:28:16,900 --> 00:28:17,900
No.

743
00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:18,900
I didn't know our squirrels were different.

744
00:28:18,900 --> 00:28:19,900
Yeah.

745
00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:21,620
I remember feeding them.

746
00:28:21,620 --> 00:28:23,700
When mom took us to Florida, we would feed them.

747
00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:25,460
See, I don't remember anything about that.

748
00:28:25,460 --> 00:28:29,860
I know when I went to Colorado, I loved it because there were chipmunks running around.

749
00:28:29,860 --> 00:28:31,860
Oh, I love Colorado too.

750
00:28:31,860 --> 00:28:34,540
And I was like, ah, people are like, what?

751
00:28:34,540 --> 00:28:35,540
It's just chipmunks.

752
00:28:35,540 --> 00:28:36,540
I'm like, we don't have these.

753
00:28:36,540 --> 00:28:38,460
They run around like squirrels there.

754
00:28:38,460 --> 00:28:39,460
Yeah.

755
00:28:39,460 --> 00:28:41,700
And then I was dating my ex.

756
00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:44,980
He was from Maryland, and I went up there to go visit him.

757
00:28:44,980 --> 00:28:45,980
What?

758
00:28:45,980 --> 00:28:46,980
He said he was from Maryland.

759
00:28:46,980 --> 00:28:47,980
He is from Maryland.

760
00:28:47,980 --> 00:28:49,980
Well, he's back in Maryland.

761
00:28:49,980 --> 00:29:00,380
But I went to visit him, and he had a park near his house, and we went and what is that?

762
00:29:00,380 --> 00:29:01,380
I don't know.

763
00:29:01,380 --> 00:29:03,380
I think it's on Hillary's end.

764
00:29:03,380 --> 00:29:04,380
Oh, okay.

765
00:29:04,380 --> 00:29:07,140
It's raining here, so I think it was just thundering.

766
00:29:07,140 --> 00:29:08,140
Oh, okay.

767
00:29:08,140 --> 00:29:12,180
We were walking through the park, and we saw, I didn't know what it was.

768
00:29:12,180 --> 00:29:13,180
I thought it was a beaver.

769
00:29:13,180 --> 00:29:15,380
I was like, oh my god, is it a beaver?

770
00:29:15,380 --> 00:29:16,380
He's like, it's a groundhog.

771
00:29:16,380 --> 00:29:17,380
I was like, that's a groundhog?

772
00:29:17,380 --> 00:29:20,380
I didn't realize it was that big.

773
00:29:20,380 --> 00:29:21,780
Are they flat on their chest?

774
00:29:21,780 --> 00:29:23,580
I feel like they kind of flatten out like flying squirrels.

775
00:29:23,580 --> 00:29:24,580
They kind of do, yeah.

776
00:29:24,580 --> 00:29:25,580
But they're huge.

777
00:29:25,580 --> 00:29:28,460
They look, I was like, I've never seen anything that big before.

778
00:29:28,460 --> 00:29:31,660
The biggest thing that we have was like prairie dogs.

779
00:29:31,660 --> 00:29:32,660
You know?

780
00:29:32,660 --> 00:29:33,660
Yeah, and we barely see those.

781
00:29:33,660 --> 00:29:37,260
I thought groundhogs were a little bit bigger than prairie dogs, but smaller than a beaver.

782
00:29:37,260 --> 00:29:40,060
No, they're like beaver size just with a small tail.

783
00:29:40,060 --> 00:29:41,060
I'm like, no tail.

784
00:29:41,060 --> 00:29:42,060
It's getting cute, actually.

785
00:29:42,060 --> 00:29:44,300
He was like, no, stay away from their assholes.

786
00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:45,300
I was like, really?

787
00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:46,300
I was like, it's massive.

788
00:29:46,300 --> 00:29:53,940
It reminded me of like, Ponyo, Ponyo, my old cat, not my old cat, but it's my cat that

789
00:29:53,940 --> 00:29:56,180
it now lives in Maryland.

790
00:29:56,180 --> 00:30:02,860
When I was working in the finance biz, I had a co-worker named Joe, who's my assistant

791
00:30:02,860 --> 00:30:05,700
manager, but I would frequently be in the car with him because we would go to people's

792
00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:08,820
homes and get them out of debt and stuff.

793
00:30:08,820 --> 00:30:11,260
But we would spend a lot of time in the car together.

794
00:30:11,260 --> 00:30:15,740
All of the things, he's from New York, Long Island, all of the things that I would teach

795
00:30:15,740 --> 00:30:20,660
him over the course of like five months about Texas, I swear to God, there was something

796
00:30:20,660 --> 00:30:29,540
that we were out in the St. Hedwig, so really vast country area, really big pieces of property.

797
00:30:29,540 --> 00:30:32,700
We're driving down this rural dirt road, and I saw something run across the road.

798
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:34,380
I go, oh my God, I think that was a road runner.

799
00:30:34,380 --> 00:30:36,100
He goes, hold the fucking phone.

800
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:37,100
I was like, what?

801
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:39,420
He's like, that's a real animal.

802
00:30:39,420 --> 00:30:41,420
I was like, yes.

803
00:30:41,420 --> 00:30:43,420
He's like, Wiley Coyote, that thing?

804
00:30:43,420 --> 00:30:45,460
I was like, yes, that's a real animal.

805
00:30:45,460 --> 00:30:49,540
Yeah, and you think that UTSA's mascot is just non-existent?

806
00:30:49,540 --> 00:30:50,540
I mean, a lot of them are.

807
00:30:50,540 --> 00:30:54,700
And he was so mind blown that a road runner was real.

808
00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:56,700
Yeah, that'd be crazy.

809
00:30:56,700 --> 00:30:59,100
I'd be like, stunned to see a road runner.

810
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:00,100
They're really fast.

811
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:01,100
It's hard to see them.

812
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:02,100
They're very fast.

813
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:07,860
They look like big insects, they run so fast, and they just are just one height.

814
00:31:07,860 --> 00:31:08,860
And they blend.

815
00:31:08,860 --> 00:31:09,860
Yeah.

816
00:31:09,860 --> 00:31:11,020
They're ashy, sandy color.

817
00:31:11,020 --> 00:31:12,020
But they're little.

818
00:31:12,020 --> 00:31:13,020
They're really little.

819
00:31:13,020 --> 00:31:14,540
Yeah, they're really cute though.

820
00:31:14,540 --> 00:31:15,540
They're cute.

821
00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:16,540
Aw.

822
00:31:16,540 --> 00:31:17,540
But yeah, I just thought that was so funny.

823
00:31:17,540 --> 00:31:21,340
And then he was also just baffled about the amount of things that people have on their

824
00:31:21,340 --> 00:31:23,740
properties that are shaped like Texas.

825
00:31:23,740 --> 00:31:26,660
He's like, damn, y'all are fucking obsessed with yourselves like Texas.

826
00:31:26,660 --> 00:31:28,300
Everyone has Texas shaped things.

827
00:31:28,300 --> 00:31:30,420
I'm like, yeah, it's a cool shape.

828
00:31:30,420 --> 00:31:34,180
I saw a hand towel today and tell me what y'all think of this.

829
00:31:34,180 --> 00:31:36,900
Hillary, do you consider yourself to be a religious person?

830
00:31:36,900 --> 00:31:37,900
No.

831
00:31:37,900 --> 00:31:38,900
Okay.

832
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:41,260
Either way, this even offended me.

833
00:31:41,260 --> 00:31:44,980
And I'm not a religious person.

834
00:31:44,980 --> 00:31:52,700
It was a white hand towel that in black writing said, rumor has it God is a Texan.

835
00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:58,780
And I found that to be so weirdly, strangely sacrilegious and I didn't know why.

836
00:31:58,780 --> 00:32:01,140
It was like pushing it.

837
00:32:01,140 --> 00:32:04,700
It was like, first of all, Texas wasn't here.

838
00:32:04,700 --> 00:32:12,900
I mean, the fact that a lot of people portray Jesus as white could also be considered like

839
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:13,900
hmm.

840
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:14,900
That's very strange.

841
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:15,900
Isn't that weird?

842
00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:18,500
Yeah, that would kind of like throw me off and be like, what the fuck?

843
00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:23,580
I think that's just for all of our listeners to really understand the pompous attitude

844
00:32:23,580 --> 00:32:27,500
of some Texans that believe that our state is the best state.

845
00:32:27,500 --> 00:32:28,500
Yeah.

846
00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:30,100
It's like Kanye, loving Kanye.

847
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:32,100
It's like Texas loves Texas.

848
00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:33,100
Yee.

849
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:34,100
Yee?

850
00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:35,100
Kanye.

851
00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:36,100
Kanye.

852
00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:42,180
Anyway, that was a cool little knowledge booster there.

853
00:32:42,180 --> 00:32:49,340
You guys tuned in to DAK Live to listen to us talk about animals and Texas and Florida.

854
00:32:49,340 --> 00:32:50,340
We're learning.

855
00:32:50,340 --> 00:32:51,340
States and animals.

856
00:32:51,340 --> 00:32:52,340
Yeah.

857
00:32:52,340 --> 00:32:54,060
Sounds like geography class over here.

858
00:32:54,060 --> 00:32:55,060
What's your state animal?

859
00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:57,940
Is it an alligator?

860
00:32:57,940 --> 00:32:58,940
You know what?

861
00:32:58,940 --> 00:32:59,940
I don't know.

862
00:32:59,940 --> 00:33:00,940
Let me see.

863
00:33:00,940 --> 00:33:01,940
What's ours?

864
00:33:01,940 --> 00:33:04,500
Because I'm not originally from Florida.

865
00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:05,500
Are you really?

866
00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:06,500
Where are you from?

867
00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:07,500
Alabama.

868
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:08,500
Oh, you said that.

869
00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:09,500
The first state bird is the hummingbird.

870
00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:10,500
Yeah.

871
00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:11,500
State bird, yeah.

872
00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:16,300
But I don't know if it's an animal.

873
00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:18,300
In Alabama, the bird's a yellow hammer.

874
00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:19,820
What's a yellow?

875
00:33:19,820 --> 00:33:22,020
Rammer, jammer, yellow hammer.

876
00:33:22,020 --> 00:33:23,020
Yellow.

877
00:33:23,020 --> 00:33:28,540
The Florida state animal is a panther.

878
00:33:28,540 --> 00:33:29,540
What?

879
00:33:29,540 --> 00:33:30,540
The Florida panther.

880
00:33:30,540 --> 00:33:31,540
A panther.

881
00:33:31,540 --> 00:33:33,180
That's not a thing.

882
00:33:33,180 --> 00:33:35,780
And then the bird is a mockingbird.

883
00:33:35,780 --> 00:33:38,660
Oh, same as ours.

884
00:33:38,660 --> 00:33:39,660
Do we say marking bird?

885
00:33:39,660 --> 00:33:40,660
No, hummingbird.

886
00:33:40,660 --> 00:33:41,660
No, it's a mockingbird.

887
00:33:41,660 --> 00:33:43,660
A mockingbird is ours, too.

888
00:33:43,660 --> 00:33:44,660
I said hummingbird.

889
00:33:44,660 --> 00:33:45,660
I know.

890
00:33:45,660 --> 00:33:46,660
No, I'm sorry.

891
00:33:46,660 --> 00:33:47,660
I misspoke.

892
00:33:47,660 --> 00:33:50,460
Texas bird.

893
00:33:50,460 --> 00:33:51,460
State.

894
00:33:51,460 --> 00:33:52,460
State.

895
00:33:52,460 --> 00:33:55,060
The blue flower is a yellow rose because I got it tattooed on me.

896
00:33:55,060 --> 00:33:57,060
Yeah, a mockingbird.

897
00:33:57,060 --> 00:34:00,860
Texas, Tennessee, Florida, Mississippi, and Arkansas all have the same.

898
00:34:00,860 --> 00:34:04,100
Well, she just said Florida, too, didn't she?

899
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:05,580
I said Florida.

900
00:34:05,580 --> 00:34:07,940
Texas, Tennessee, Florida, Mississippi, and Arkansas.

901
00:34:07,940 --> 00:34:08,940
Right?

902
00:34:08,940 --> 00:34:09,940
I can't hear today.

903
00:34:09,940 --> 00:34:10,940
I don't know what's going on.

904
00:34:10,940 --> 00:34:12,540
Yeah, we have the yellow rose of Texas.

905
00:34:12,540 --> 00:34:13,860
Well, it's a blue bonnet.

906
00:34:13,860 --> 00:34:15,460
The blue bonnet's the state flower.

907
00:34:15,460 --> 00:34:16,460
Silly.

908
00:34:16,460 --> 00:34:17,460
Yeah.

909
00:34:17,460 --> 00:34:19,460
Alabama's flower is a chameleon.

910
00:34:19,460 --> 00:34:20,460
A chameleon?

911
00:34:20,460 --> 00:34:22,780
That sounds fun.

912
00:34:22,780 --> 00:34:24,020
I've never seen one of those there.

913
00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:26,700
I figured it would be in Azalea, Texas, 1901.

914
00:34:26,700 --> 00:34:27,700
Damn.

915
00:34:27,700 --> 00:34:30,660
Well, I have a blue bonnet tattooed on me as well, so it's fine.

916
00:34:30,660 --> 00:34:31,660
It works.

917
00:34:31,660 --> 00:34:34,300
Are you thinking of the yellow rose that type the song?

918
00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:36,740
No, I'm just not very smart.

919
00:34:36,740 --> 00:34:38,740
No, don't say that about yourself.

920
00:34:38,740 --> 00:34:40,060
No, I am smart.

921
00:34:40,060 --> 00:34:41,060
I know.

922
00:34:41,060 --> 00:34:48,180
So, Hillary, I would like to know a little bit about your personal background with mental

923
00:34:48,180 --> 00:34:49,980
illness slash mental health.

924
00:34:49,980 --> 00:34:55,580
I mean, work-wise, education-wise, not personal stories.

925
00:34:55,580 --> 00:34:56,580
Yeah.

926
00:34:56,580 --> 00:34:59,460
So, I've just always been interested in it.

927
00:34:59,460 --> 00:35:04,380
I don't have a cool story as to why.

928
00:35:04,380 --> 00:35:07,500
I've just always thought it was really interesting.

929
00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:12,820
And I've worked in mental health for about nine years.

930
00:35:12,820 --> 00:35:13,820
Wow.

931
00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:14,820
Girl.

932
00:35:14,820 --> 00:35:15,820
Now, nine or 10.

933
00:35:15,820 --> 00:35:16,820
Nice.

934
00:35:16,820 --> 00:35:17,820
Yeah.

935
00:35:17,820 --> 00:35:22,020
But like I said, I don't have a cool story as to what inspired me or led me.

936
00:35:22,020 --> 00:35:24,140
I've just always found it really, really interesting.

937
00:35:24,140 --> 00:35:25,140
Yeah.

938
00:35:25,140 --> 00:35:28,460
So, but you would consider it like a passion of yours, though.

939
00:35:28,460 --> 00:35:29,460
Yeah.

940
00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:34,260
Because I feel like I'm a very open-minded, non-judgmental person.

941
00:35:34,260 --> 00:35:38,660
So, I feel like I can see all different sides of things.

942
00:35:38,660 --> 00:35:44,420
So, I'm definitely not judgmental when it comes to the stigma of mental illness and whatnot.

943
00:35:44,420 --> 00:35:49,100
Do you consider yourself to be like an empath?

944
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:52,260
I don't know, really.

945
00:35:52,260 --> 00:35:53,500
Yeah.

946
00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:54,500
Maybe sometimes.

947
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:55,500
Yeah.

948
00:35:55,500 --> 00:35:56,500
Depends on the situation.

949
00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:57,500
Yeah.

950
00:35:57,500 --> 00:35:58,500
Yeah, I feel that.

951
00:35:58,500 --> 00:35:59,500
Yeah.

952
00:35:59,500 --> 00:36:00,980
I'm definitely an empath like through and through.

953
00:36:00,980 --> 00:36:05,460
And I like, even when situations like it's almost to a fault where like I can't help

954
00:36:05,460 --> 00:36:07,300
it and I want to turn it off, but I can't.

955
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:08,300
Yeah.

956
00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:10,980
And then it just like consumes my mind sometimes.

957
00:36:10,980 --> 00:36:12,980
I feel like I lack that.

958
00:36:12,980 --> 00:36:13,980
I really do.

959
00:36:13,980 --> 00:36:17,980
I feel like on my insides, I feel like I can of course listen to someone and give them

960
00:36:17,980 --> 00:36:18,980
my advice.

961
00:36:18,980 --> 00:36:24,460
But if you want like specifically a shoulder to cry on, that's kind of hard for me.

962
00:36:24,460 --> 00:36:25,820
Like to get there.

963
00:36:25,820 --> 00:36:30,340
I feel like I used to be better at it, but I feel like the older I get, the less empathetic

964
00:36:30,340 --> 00:36:31,340
I am.

965
00:36:31,340 --> 00:36:34,340
But maybe I'm going to be fucking senile when I'm old.

966
00:36:34,340 --> 00:36:35,340
Leave me alone.

967
00:36:35,340 --> 00:36:37,340
Get off my lawn.

968
00:36:37,340 --> 00:36:38,340
Yeah.

969
00:36:38,340 --> 00:36:39,340
Yeah.

970
00:36:39,340 --> 00:36:40,340
It depends on the situation.

971
00:36:40,340 --> 00:36:44,660
I feel like I'm going to be myself easier to empathize with, you know, some stories

972
00:36:44,660 --> 00:36:48,460
and whatnot, more than others kind of thing for sure.

973
00:36:48,460 --> 00:36:49,460
I get that.

974
00:36:49,460 --> 00:36:53,940
I mean, for the most part, like the people that we talk about, and it's funny that you

975
00:36:53,940 --> 00:36:57,420
said earlier, Hillary, like there's only so much information you can find on a certain

976
00:36:57,420 --> 00:37:01,860
topic because sometimes like I will find someone that I really want to bring to the table.

977
00:37:01,860 --> 00:37:05,460
But if there's not enough information on it, I'm not going to take on the case.

978
00:37:05,460 --> 00:37:06,460
Right.

979
00:37:06,460 --> 00:37:13,940
But I want to know what went wrong, why did this person do, or maybe even just speculate

980
00:37:13,940 --> 00:37:17,980
on like maybe there's one tiny thing that I can look up and find.

981
00:37:17,980 --> 00:37:19,140
Maybe that did it.

982
00:37:19,140 --> 00:37:25,060
But that's something that I, this helps me when I do choose my cases is to kind of look

983
00:37:25,060 --> 00:37:31,820
for that factor of like, okay, what can I relate to and pinpoint to where like maybe

984
00:37:31,820 --> 00:37:35,380
in another world I could have helped in that situation.

985
00:37:35,380 --> 00:37:40,220
So that's, I don't know, that just inspires me with the people that I write about.

986
00:37:40,220 --> 00:37:41,220
Yeah.

987
00:37:41,220 --> 00:37:42,220
Which is...

988
00:37:42,220 --> 00:37:43,220
Because then you can be like, oh, there it is.

989
00:37:43,220 --> 00:37:44,220
Yeah.

990
00:37:44,220 --> 00:37:45,220
That's for everything.

991
00:37:45,220 --> 00:37:46,220
Exactly.

992
00:37:46,220 --> 00:37:49,780
And that's why when we do episodes for the listeners, I'm sure that you've realized

993
00:37:49,780 --> 00:37:53,100
when I say the diagnosis, I say it so like matter of fact.

994
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:56,900
And then he got diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia.

995
00:37:56,900 --> 00:37:58,900
There it is.

996
00:37:58,900 --> 00:38:05,060
And yeah, just as an example, but yeah, so definitely empathy and it sucks honestly.

997
00:38:05,060 --> 00:38:08,380
But then I did tell you the other day that I don't take those things with me when I read

998
00:38:08,380 --> 00:38:09,380
about cases.

999
00:38:09,380 --> 00:38:14,340
I'm much more like it hurts me more internally when it's someone that I know personally.

1000
00:38:14,340 --> 00:38:18,180
Even if it's someone I don't really care for, I still like think about things over and over

1001
00:38:18,180 --> 00:38:19,180
and over.

1002
00:38:19,180 --> 00:38:24,820
No, I carry them more after like certain aspects of the case afterwards, but not like...

1003
00:38:24,820 --> 00:38:27,860
I thought that was interesting when you guys were talking about that because I'm kind of,

1004
00:38:27,860 --> 00:38:31,220
I'm like, I don't really carry it with me either.

1005
00:38:31,220 --> 00:38:35,300
Like I can't think of anything that's really like stuck out that I'm just like, God, I mean,

1006
00:38:35,300 --> 00:38:37,500
of course everything's terrible, but there's not.

1007
00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:40,260
I can't think of anything that I really like.

1008
00:38:40,260 --> 00:38:42,620
Just continue to be like, oh my God.

1009
00:38:42,620 --> 00:38:52,060
For me, it's like, do you ever like date someone and then they're driving like a Buick or like

1010
00:38:52,060 --> 00:38:54,300
a LaBaron or something.

1011
00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:58,300
And it's a car that you never really had recognized before.

1012
00:38:58,300 --> 00:39:03,180
But then after you stop talking and you break up, for all of a sudden, like you keep seeing

1013
00:39:03,180 --> 00:39:05,180
LaBaron all the time.

1014
00:39:05,180 --> 00:39:06,900
That's the way it is with me.

1015
00:39:06,900 --> 00:39:13,540
So it's like someone will be wearing a Danny Phantom shirt and it reminds me of Randy's

1016
00:39:13,540 --> 00:39:16,180
stare or, you know, just little things like that.

1017
00:39:16,180 --> 00:39:17,180
Yeah.

1018
00:39:17,180 --> 00:39:18,620
I mean, I get what you're saying like that.

1019
00:39:18,620 --> 00:39:22,340
I mean, that kind of happens to me to like something will remind me of a case that we

1020
00:39:22,340 --> 00:39:27,220
did, but it doesn't bring me back to what I've researched the case or when we did the episode

1021
00:39:27,220 --> 00:39:28,380
in the case.

1022
00:39:28,380 --> 00:39:29,380
I don't know.

1023
00:39:29,380 --> 00:39:35,780
I just feel like one of my defense mechanisms is to like somehow in my subconscious be able

1024
00:39:35,780 --> 00:39:38,900
to put things out of my brain and like forget about things.

1025
00:39:38,900 --> 00:39:42,740
Like I could guarantee you, I can't even tell you like the first four people I did on the

1026
00:39:42,740 --> 00:39:43,740
podcast.

1027
00:39:43,740 --> 00:39:44,740
Yeah.

1028
00:39:44,740 --> 00:39:45,740
And I researched them the whole way.

1029
00:39:45,740 --> 00:39:47,780
I obviously did a lot of research.

1030
00:39:47,780 --> 00:39:49,020
I would have to go back and look.

1031
00:39:49,020 --> 00:39:50,700
Obviously, I know I did Andre Thomas.

1032
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:51,700
You did Andre Thomas.

1033
00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:53,020
But I would have to go back and look.

1034
00:39:53,020 --> 00:39:54,020
Wang Xiong.

1035
00:39:54,020 --> 00:39:55,020
No, I remember them all.

1036
00:39:55,020 --> 00:39:56,020
Like I just.

1037
00:39:56,020 --> 00:39:57,340
I remember them all.

1038
00:39:57,340 --> 00:39:58,540
And no, you did Kristen Gilbert.

1039
00:39:58,540 --> 00:40:00,900
I know I'm saying I remember the first four.

1040
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:01,900
Yeah.

1041
00:40:01,900 --> 00:40:02,900
It was.

1042
00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:03,900
Okay.

1043
00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:04,900
Scott Peterson's number four.

1044
00:40:04,900 --> 00:40:05,900
I know that.

1045
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:06,900
But if you talk about like the teens, like not something that's significant like the

1046
00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:07,900
beginning and then the most recent.

1047
00:40:07,900 --> 00:40:08,900
Something in the middle.

1048
00:40:08,900 --> 00:40:09,900
In the middle.

1049
00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:10,900
Yeah.

1050
00:40:10,900 --> 00:40:14,100
Like I have to literally go back to see if I've done the person before that I'm like

1051
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:16,100
researching because I just forget.

1052
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:17,100
Yeah.

1053
00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:18,100
You know, that sounds bad.

1054
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:19,100
I was like, just forget.

1055
00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:20,100
What were you going to say?

1056
00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:21,100
Hillary?

1057
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:22,100
Sorry.

1058
00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:25,100
No, I said, I remember them all.

1059
00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:26,100
I just, I don't know.

1060
00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:27,100
I guess.

1061
00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:28,700
I don't know how to.

1062
00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:32,580
I feel bad saying, well, like, oh, they're just stories because they're not.

1063
00:40:32,580 --> 00:40:33,580
Yeah.

1064
00:40:33,580 --> 00:40:36,300
But at the same time, it's just like, I don't know.

1065
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:37,300
Like I said, I can't.

1066
00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:38,300
They don't really.

1067
00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:40,220
And things stick with me.

1068
00:40:40,220 --> 00:40:44,020
Like I'll see something and be like, oh, that, like you said, like somebody wearing a

1069
00:40:44,020 --> 00:40:45,020
Danny pan.

1070
00:40:45,020 --> 00:40:46,220
I'm sure you're like, oh, that reminds me of Randy Stair.

1071
00:40:46,220 --> 00:40:47,220
Yeah.

1072
00:40:47,220 --> 00:40:48,220
But then I don't like, oh, Randy.

1073
00:40:48,220 --> 00:40:52,220
I'm just like, whoa, look out for it.

1074
00:40:52,220 --> 00:40:55,220
Randy Stair, whoa.

1075
00:40:55,220 --> 00:40:56,900
That's so funny.

1076
00:40:56,900 --> 00:41:01,180
Oh, can we talk about the fact, by the way, now that we've done both, that you guys both

1077
00:41:01,180 --> 00:41:03,700
did Elliott Rodger as a case.

1078
00:41:03,700 --> 00:41:04,700
Can y'all please discuss?

1079
00:41:04,700 --> 00:41:08,140
Because I would like to hear each other's thoughts on each other's episode.

1080
00:41:08,140 --> 00:41:09,140
That's so.

1081
00:41:09,140 --> 00:41:14,980
I texted kind of shortly after and I was like, how much of this crap do you think he just

1082
00:41:14,980 --> 00:41:18,140
made up?

1083
00:41:18,140 --> 00:41:22,780
Did you like watch any of his videos?

1084
00:41:22,780 --> 00:41:23,780
Did you watch a lot of his videos?

1085
00:41:23,780 --> 00:41:27,340
I had before, but I pretty much just stuck to reading his manifesto.

1086
00:41:27,340 --> 00:41:28,340
Yeah.

1087
00:41:28,340 --> 00:41:31,940
But like the whole throwing the coffee, like you mentioned, no one's ever come forward

1088
00:41:31,940 --> 00:41:35,460
and been like, I was that person he threw coffee on.

1089
00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:37,580
And like, how did he not get his ass beat?

1090
00:41:37,580 --> 00:41:38,580
Like way before.

1091
00:41:38,580 --> 00:41:41,380
And he's a little, he's a little dude too, so it was.

1092
00:41:41,380 --> 00:41:43,420
So yeah, it wouldn't make sense.

1093
00:41:43,420 --> 00:41:45,300
It wouldn't make sense in my mind.

1094
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:47,380
Like nobody ever caught up with him before.

1095
00:41:47,380 --> 00:41:48,380
Right.

1096
00:41:48,380 --> 00:41:52,700
Do you think that he like purposefully made that up to make it seem like again, more of

1097
00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:54,020
a reason for doing what he did?

1098
00:41:54,020 --> 00:41:58,380
Or do you think that he was just so invested in the thought of like wanting to do that?

1099
00:41:58,380 --> 00:42:00,060
He kind of mistook that for like reality.

1100
00:42:00,060 --> 00:42:03,460
I don't know if he knew and then mistook it for reality.

1101
00:42:03,460 --> 00:42:08,220
I feel like it's something maybe that he thought he always wanted to do.

1102
00:42:08,220 --> 00:42:11,900
And by saying that he did it, I don't think anybody's really going to question it.

1103
00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:20,260
And I think that, especially in the case of the manifesto, that I think for the sake

1104
00:42:20,260 --> 00:42:25,100
of storytelling, I think he wanted to us seem like it was escalating.

1105
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:26,100
You know what I mean?

1106
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:27,100
Of course.

1107
00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:29,340
Because he needed an excuse to do what he did.

1108
00:42:29,340 --> 00:42:36,180
And like, I think I said in our episode two, like, I wish we kind of knew how he really

1109
00:42:36,180 --> 00:42:39,100
felt at the time he talked about those things.

1110
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:43,340
Because there's like in my head, I'm like, there's no way a five year old really felt

1111
00:42:43,340 --> 00:42:47,180
how he was saying he felt at five years old.

1112
00:42:47,180 --> 00:42:48,180
Right.

1113
00:42:48,180 --> 00:42:49,180
Or even three.

1114
00:42:49,180 --> 00:42:50,180
Yeah.

1115
00:42:50,180 --> 00:42:51,180
Yeah.

1116
00:42:51,180 --> 00:42:52,700
Like a five year old's not thinking those kind of things.

1117
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:53,700
Surely like.

1118
00:42:53,700 --> 00:42:55,380
I totally agree.

1119
00:42:55,380 --> 00:43:00,220
I think that a lot of it was again, inflation.

1120
00:43:00,220 --> 00:43:05,580
Again we have to remember he's 22 years old writing this and he is angsty and he's pissed

1121
00:43:05,580 --> 00:43:13,660
and he just wants to again make it seem like there's a reason or an explanation and escalation

1122
00:43:13,660 --> 00:43:15,500
to what happened.

1123
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:17,620
And so, yeah.

1124
00:43:17,620 --> 00:43:22,060
Listening to his videos, watching his videos, me and kind of talked about that on the podcast

1125
00:43:22,060 --> 00:43:28,060
before that I do seek out someone's voice because I want to know what they sound like.

1126
00:43:28,060 --> 00:43:35,420
And for me, I think part of the reason I take Elliot Roger with me is because he is on the

1127
00:43:35,420 --> 00:43:37,700
list on the autism spectrum.

1128
00:43:37,700 --> 00:43:44,380
I think it's very clear when you watch him and you see him and the way he holds himself

1129
00:43:44,380 --> 00:43:49,100
when he talks like this is just very cartoony.

1130
00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:52,860
I remember literally, I remember watching one video and he literally says something and

1131
00:43:52,860 --> 00:43:56,340
he goes, hmm, hmm, hmm.

1132
00:43:56,340 --> 00:43:58,540
Like he laughs like a villain on a cartoon.

1133
00:43:58,540 --> 00:43:59,540
Yeah, exactly.

1134
00:43:59,540 --> 00:44:01,980
And he's like, Elliot Roger here.

1135
00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:03,900
Like it's like, okay, we don't know who you are.

1136
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:06,260
We haven't sought you out on your YouTube channel before.

1137
00:44:06,260 --> 00:44:07,260
We know who you are.

1138
00:44:07,260 --> 00:44:08,260
You don't have to see it every time.

1139
00:44:08,260 --> 00:44:09,260
Yeah.

1140
00:44:09,260 --> 00:44:12,340
But it's almost like he's taking his social cues from all the other sources.

1141
00:44:12,340 --> 00:44:13,340
Exactly.

1142
00:44:13,340 --> 00:44:14,340
Such as cartoons.

1143
00:44:14,340 --> 00:44:15,340
Anime.

1144
00:44:15,340 --> 00:44:16,340
Anime.

1145
00:44:16,340 --> 00:44:17,840
Or yeah, maybe other people that he's met.

1146
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,260
It's one of those things and that is actually something that is known about autism spectrum

1147
00:44:22,260 --> 00:44:24,980
disorder depending on where you are on the spectrum.

1148
00:44:24,980 --> 00:44:29,580
You do take those because it's kind of harder for someone on the spectrum to create their

1149
00:44:29,580 --> 00:44:31,140
own social cues.

1150
00:44:31,140 --> 00:44:32,460
So they just intern mimic.

1151
00:44:32,460 --> 00:44:33,460
Yeah.

1152
00:44:33,460 --> 00:44:34,460
Exactly.

1153
00:44:34,460 --> 00:44:39,900
So that makes a lot of sense though that he would kind of just pull from it and not

1154
00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:44,660
even realize that it's like other people are aware that that's what he's doing.

1155
00:44:44,660 --> 00:44:47,500
It gave him like, I wish to.

1156
00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:48,500
Sorry.

1157
00:44:48,500 --> 00:44:49,500
Very good.

1158
00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:56,180
I wish too that like there was like his friends or somebody, people like that from the past,

1159
00:44:56,180 --> 00:44:59,220
we could have known more from them because I would have liked to have known his friends'

1160
00:44:59,220 --> 00:45:01,420
opinions of everything.

1161
00:45:01,420 --> 00:45:02,420
Yeah.

1162
00:45:02,420 --> 00:45:03,420
Absolutely.

1163
00:45:03,420 --> 00:45:05,780
Because I really couldn't find any friends saying like, yeah, we hung out and he was

1164
00:45:05,780 --> 00:45:06,780
cool.

1165
00:45:06,780 --> 00:45:07,980
I never thought that this was going to happen.

1166
00:45:07,980 --> 00:45:08,980
Yeah.

1167
00:45:08,980 --> 00:45:12,500
Because he had friends most of the time up until like college, I think.

1168
00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:13,500
Right.

1169
00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:14,500
Yeah.

1170
00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:19,140
And I think it was James being his last remaining friend that, you know, he just, which had always

1171
00:45:19,140 --> 00:45:23,060
been kind of his virgin buddy, I guess.

1172
00:45:23,060 --> 00:45:27,420
And when James started kind of pulling away from that and was like, yeah, this was like

1173
00:45:27,420 --> 00:45:32,140
kind of funny and it made us feel better about like, oh, we don't need girls.

1174
00:45:32,140 --> 00:45:37,820
Like we have video games and like movies and, you know, we can become cultured young men.

1175
00:45:37,820 --> 00:45:39,700
We don't need all of that.

1176
00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:44,980
When Elliot took it so seriously and I think that James, when he started getting older,

1177
00:45:44,980 --> 00:45:48,300
was like, okay, maybe I do want to go explore more of the world.

1178
00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:52,940
Maybe I might want to have a successful relationship and I can't continue to be around you if you're

1179
00:45:52,940 --> 00:45:54,860
just going to make me feel bad about it all the time.

1180
00:45:54,860 --> 00:45:55,860
Yeah.

1181
00:45:55,860 --> 00:45:56,860
Exactly.

1182
00:45:56,860 --> 00:45:57,860
Yeah.

1183
00:45:57,860 --> 00:45:58,860
So.

1184
00:45:58,860 --> 00:45:59,860
And I asked my boyfriend too.

1185
00:45:59,860 --> 00:46:03,420
And he said, I was like, I feel like me and my girlfriends were never like, oh, you're

1186
00:46:03,420 --> 00:46:05,140
still a virgin.

1187
00:46:05,140 --> 00:46:06,140
What a loser.

1188
00:46:06,140 --> 00:46:07,140
Yeah.

1189
00:46:07,140 --> 00:46:08,660
So I was like, are boys really like that?

1190
00:46:08,660 --> 00:46:12,020
Like, honestly, did you and your friends like really where you go like, oh, you're still

1191
00:46:12,020 --> 00:46:13,020
a virgin?

1192
00:46:13,020 --> 00:46:15,100
And he was like, I mean, kind of, yeah.

1193
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:16,100
Yeah.

1194
00:46:16,100 --> 00:46:19,900
It's, it's a lot of pressure for a guy, you know, I think especially more than it's like

1195
00:46:19,900 --> 00:46:25,260
women are expected to be pure, pure beings, but men can just do whatever they want.

1196
00:46:25,260 --> 00:46:26,260
And of course.

1197
00:46:26,260 --> 00:46:29,820
So yeah, I do feel like there, he probably felt that pressure.

1198
00:46:29,820 --> 00:46:32,520
And I think it was more because he didn't fit in.

1199
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:37,380
He felt like that was the way to fit in and then not be.

1200
00:46:37,380 --> 00:46:41,940
And I think that that's probably why he, why Elliot Roger just honed it on that so hard

1201
00:46:41,940 --> 00:46:48,340
about being the reason why he wasn't popular or why, you know, he became an obsession.

1202
00:46:48,340 --> 00:46:52,580
And you know, I, like I said on the episode, I could say it until I'm blue in the face

1203
00:46:52,580 --> 00:46:56,980
that it wouldn't change the fact that he is and was very seriously mentally ill.

1204
00:46:56,980 --> 00:46:57,980
Yeah.

1205
00:46:57,980 --> 00:47:03,340
It just, I don't, I can't get behind the whole, like the whole manifesto in my opinion is

1206
00:47:03,340 --> 00:47:05,860
just a giant excuse for him doing what he did.

1207
00:47:05,860 --> 00:47:10,300
He made himself feel the power that he felt like he wasn't gaining.

1208
00:47:10,300 --> 00:47:16,100
Like essentially again, it's that whole fake it to make it or fake it to the whatever,

1209
00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:17,100
right?

1210
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:18,100
So you become it.

1211
00:47:18,100 --> 00:47:22,660
He, you know, he's driving around this college town videoing these girls as they're like

1212
00:47:22,660 --> 00:47:29,100
walking to and from college parties and he's like, they have no idea what I'm about to

1213
00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:31,380
do, you know, things like that.

1214
00:47:31,380 --> 00:47:37,820
And I think it gave him so much, it gave him a false sense of control or power.

1215
00:47:37,820 --> 00:47:40,260
Like I know what's going to happen in Union.

1216
00:47:40,260 --> 00:47:41,260
Yeah, exactly.

1217
00:47:41,260 --> 00:47:45,500
And he, I think he just ran with it until he killed people ultimately, which is awful.

1218
00:47:45,500 --> 00:47:47,500
That is awful.

1219
00:47:47,500 --> 00:47:50,340
That was a heavy topic.

1220
00:47:50,340 --> 00:47:54,220
Oh, it runs into that, that TikTok that you showed me about that girl.

1221
00:47:54,220 --> 00:47:55,220
Yeah.

1222
00:47:55,220 --> 00:47:56,220
I love that chick.

1223
00:47:56,220 --> 00:47:57,700
I need to find her.

1224
00:47:57,700 --> 00:48:03,260
Hillary, do you know that one attorney lady where she's got the sunglasses and she reads

1225
00:48:03,260 --> 00:48:04,260
the courtroom?

1226
00:48:04,260 --> 00:48:06,740
I'm doing the glasses right now.

1227
00:48:06,740 --> 00:48:07,740
I don't think so.

1228
00:48:07,740 --> 00:48:11,460
She reads like courtroom transcripts that are just ridiculous.

1229
00:48:11,460 --> 00:48:17,220
So it'll be like, judge, do you know the reason why you're in court today?

1230
00:48:17,220 --> 00:48:22,580
And because I kicked someone's cat, you know, like just weird stuff.

1231
00:48:22,580 --> 00:48:23,580
Yeah.

1232
00:48:23,580 --> 00:48:30,540
Anyways, someone had commented, she had talked about, I didn't see where the original post

1233
00:48:30,540 --> 00:48:34,340
came from, but she had talked about school shootings and someone commented and said,

1234
00:48:34,340 --> 00:48:36,940
oh, like you really know what that's like.

1235
00:48:36,940 --> 00:48:44,940
She was a sorority girl during the Isle of Asta massacre that was perpetrated by Elia

1236
00:48:44,940 --> 00:48:50,620
Roger and her sorority was actually across the street from the sorority that those girls

1237
00:48:50,620 --> 00:48:51,620
have been shot.

1238
00:48:51,620 --> 00:48:52,620
That's crazy.

1239
00:48:52,620 --> 00:48:56,420
And just like, imagine if they would have opened the door when he was walking.

1240
00:48:56,420 --> 00:48:57,420
Oh my God.

1241
00:48:57,420 --> 00:48:58,420
That's what I said.

1242
00:48:58,420 --> 00:49:02,820
I was like, those smart girls because like they knew something was wrong and they didn't

1243
00:49:02,820 --> 00:49:06,180
or whoever was behind the door didn't have to be the girls, but whoever was in there

1244
00:49:06,180 --> 00:49:08,980
knew it didn't sound right.

1245
00:49:08,980 --> 00:49:10,060
Our cats are freaking out.

1246
00:49:10,060 --> 00:49:12,060
I'm gonna open the door.

1247
00:49:12,060 --> 00:49:14,100
But it's gonna be a little bit loud when I stand up.

1248
00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:15,700
I also have to blow my nose.

1249
00:49:15,700 --> 00:49:16,900
So I'm gonna do that.

1250
00:49:16,900 --> 00:49:18,300
Actually, I can mute this microphone.

1251
00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:21,300
Give me one second.

1252
00:49:21,300 --> 00:49:34,300
Okay, I'm back.

1253
00:49:34,300 --> 00:49:35,940
Oh my gosh.

1254
00:49:35,940 --> 00:49:38,460
That little button's a little lifesaver.

1255
00:49:38,460 --> 00:49:40,580
Oh my goodness.

1256
00:49:40,580 --> 00:49:41,980
My cat was meowing at the door earlier.

1257
00:49:41,980 --> 00:49:44,980
I thought I was gonna have to get up and let him in, but he quit.

1258
00:49:44,980 --> 00:49:45,980
Oh, Shami.

1259
00:49:45,980 --> 00:49:46,980
Hi, boy.

1260
00:49:46,980 --> 00:49:47,980
Say something.

1261
00:49:47,980 --> 00:49:48,980
Say, Shami.

1262
00:49:48,980 --> 00:49:53,980
You had a lot to say when you were outside the door.

1263
00:49:53,980 --> 00:49:54,980
Yeah.

1264
00:49:54,980 --> 00:49:55,980
What's it doing?

1265
00:49:55,980 --> 00:49:56,980
Oh my goodness.

1266
00:49:56,980 --> 00:49:59,500
Such a scaredy cat.

1267
00:49:59,500 --> 00:50:00,500
That's our forever kitten.

1268
00:50:00,500 --> 00:50:02,500
I can't hear Hillary.

1269
00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:04,500
He's so small.

1270
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:06,700
Hillary, do you have any animals?

1271
00:50:06,700 --> 00:50:08,980
Yeah, I have my cat Denny.

1272
00:50:08,980 --> 00:50:11,980
He is my entire world.

1273
00:50:11,980 --> 00:50:13,980
What is he named after?

1274
00:50:13,980 --> 00:50:14,980
Warcoholics.

1275
00:50:14,980 --> 00:50:16,980
I thought you were gonna say Denny-Duket.

1276
00:50:16,980 --> 00:50:18,980
Which one's Denny?

1277
00:50:18,980 --> 00:50:21,980
They got a cat in one episode and they named him Denny's.

1278
00:50:21,980 --> 00:50:23,980
Oh, that's cute.

1279
00:50:23,980 --> 00:50:27,980
So is that his collar that I hear?

1280
00:50:27,980 --> 00:50:28,980
I feel like I'm hearing a bell.

1281
00:50:28,980 --> 00:50:31,980
It might be Seamus' collar, but it also might be Denny.

1282
00:50:31,980 --> 00:50:32,980
I don't know.

1283
00:50:32,980 --> 00:50:33,980
No, Denny doesn't wear a collar.

1284
00:50:33,980 --> 00:50:34,980
Oh, okay.

1285
00:50:34,980 --> 00:50:37,980
Well, that's definitely Seamus, and he is a very vocal cat.

1286
00:50:37,980 --> 00:50:39,980
He's gonna have to be in the room.

1287
00:50:39,980 --> 00:50:40,980
He didn't used to be.

1288
00:50:40,980 --> 00:50:42,980
He used to be really, really scared.

1289
00:50:42,980 --> 00:50:44,980
Come here.

1290
00:50:44,980 --> 00:50:46,980
Why?

1291
00:50:46,980 --> 00:50:48,980
So pitiful.

1292
00:50:48,980 --> 00:50:50,980
Anyway.

1293
00:50:50,980 --> 00:50:52,980
What was that noise?

1294
00:50:52,980 --> 00:50:54,980
He sounds like a human.

1295
00:50:54,980 --> 00:50:58,980
Hillary, speaking of sounding like a human, did you listen to that one episode where it

1296
00:50:58,980 --> 00:51:01,980
sounded like someone was going shh-shh-shh behind me?

1297
00:51:01,980 --> 00:51:03,980
Yeah, but I was in my car.

1298
00:51:03,980 --> 00:51:04,980
Okay.

1299
00:51:04,980 --> 00:51:06,980
So I didn't hear it as much.

1300
00:51:06,980 --> 00:51:07,980
It's so clear.

1301
00:51:07,980 --> 00:51:10,980
I listened to it after we posted.

1302
00:51:10,980 --> 00:51:12,980
Yeah, Ty said it freaked it out.

1303
00:51:12,980 --> 00:51:13,980
It's so clear, too.

1304
00:51:13,980 --> 00:51:15,980
I have to listen on my phone with my headphones.

1305
00:51:15,980 --> 00:51:19,980
Yeah, and like I said, I was just, I had it in my car through the aux cord or whatever

1306
00:51:19,980 --> 00:51:21,980
so I can really hear it well.

1307
00:51:21,980 --> 00:51:22,980
It's free.

1308
00:51:22,980 --> 00:51:27,980
Not all the time do we air sometimes when that happens to us, but I think we should a

1309
00:51:27,980 --> 00:51:29,980
lot more because I find it really interesting.

1310
00:51:29,980 --> 00:51:30,980
It happens a lot.

1311
00:51:30,980 --> 00:51:31,980
So it happens at least.

1312
00:51:31,980 --> 00:51:32,980
Really?

1313
00:51:32,980 --> 00:51:33,980
Yeah.

1314
00:51:33,980 --> 00:51:37,700
We've edited out plenty of times where we've heard it, but then when you play it back,

1315
00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:38,980
you can't really hear it.

1316
00:51:38,980 --> 00:51:39,980
Yeah.

1317
00:51:39,980 --> 00:51:42,980
And then especially you couldn't hear it if it was like in your car or something.

1318
00:51:42,980 --> 00:51:43,980
So we just take it out.

1319
00:51:43,980 --> 00:51:45,980
Is your house wanted?

1320
00:51:45,980 --> 00:51:46,980
Maybe.

1321
00:51:46,980 --> 00:51:47,980
Potentially.

1322
00:51:47,980 --> 00:51:48,980
Hopefully.

1323
00:51:48,980 --> 00:51:51,980
Yeah, we don't, we didn't know.

1324
00:51:51,980 --> 00:51:55,980
Because I know you said you guys have lived in the same house for like ever.

1325
00:51:55,980 --> 00:51:56,980
Yeah.

1326
00:51:56,980 --> 00:51:57,980
Yeah.

1327
00:51:57,980 --> 00:51:58,980
32 years almost.

1328
00:51:58,980 --> 00:51:59,980
Yeah.

1329
00:51:59,980 --> 00:52:00,980
That's cool.

1330
00:52:00,980 --> 00:52:01,980
A long time.

1331
00:52:01,980 --> 00:52:03,980
30 30.

1332
00:52:03,980 --> 00:52:05,980
Yeah, 32 years.

1333
00:52:05,980 --> 00:52:09,980
She was like trying to do the math was like 31.

1334
00:52:09,980 --> 00:52:13,980
How do you all select what cases you want to do, Hillary?

1335
00:52:13,980 --> 00:52:15,980
So that's like a question.

1336
00:52:15,980 --> 00:52:16,980
I am.

1337
00:52:16,980 --> 00:52:19,980
Well, you know, we ask for suggestions.

1338
00:52:19,980 --> 00:52:25,980
Well, so when we do them with Morgan, because Morgan is a baby, she there's a lot of them

1339
00:52:25,980 --> 00:52:27,980
that she hasn't heard.

1340
00:52:27,980 --> 00:52:33,980
So we'll save kind of like the popular ones, so to speak for her like Jaminé Ramsey or

1341
00:52:33,980 --> 00:52:38,980
Susan Powell or like she had literally never heard of Jaminé Ramsey.

1342
00:52:38,980 --> 00:52:40,980
And that's kind of what started the podcast too.

1343
00:52:40,980 --> 00:52:43,980
That was the first one I listened to obviously first episode, but that was the one that kicked

1344
00:52:43,980 --> 00:52:44,980
it off.

1345
00:52:44,980 --> 00:52:46,980
And I was like, Oh my gosh, I like these girls.

1346
00:52:46,980 --> 00:52:47,980
They're nice.

1347
00:52:47,980 --> 00:52:48,980
They're funny.

1348
00:52:48,980 --> 00:52:49,980
And that episode was terrible.

1349
00:52:49,980 --> 00:52:50,980
So I'm glad it.

1350
00:52:50,980 --> 00:52:52,980
I think it was pretty good.

1351
00:52:52,980 --> 00:52:59,980
But the other stuff it just like sometimes it'll just be from maybe like an article I've

1352
00:52:59,980 --> 00:53:02,980
seen or I get books a lot.

1353
00:53:02,980 --> 00:53:07,980
I get a lot of our stuff from books because if you have Kindle Unlimited, you can get

1354
00:53:07,980 --> 00:53:10,980
they have a lot of true crime books on Kindle Unlimited.

1355
00:53:10,980 --> 00:53:16,980
So I get them from there or like, you know, shows like cold case files or, you know, just

1356
00:53:16,980 --> 00:53:19,980
all those ID channel shows.

1357
00:53:19,980 --> 00:53:20,980
Interesting.

1358
00:53:20,980 --> 00:53:22,980
I've gotten some from there.

1359
00:53:22,980 --> 00:53:23,980
There was a book recently.

1360
00:53:23,980 --> 00:53:28,980
Didn't I do who wrote a book that I did a case on recently or somebody did?

1361
00:53:28,980 --> 00:53:30,980
I'll be gone in the dark is Michelle McNamara.

1362
00:53:30,980 --> 00:53:32,980
But that was, oh yeah, that was my case.

1363
00:53:32,980 --> 00:53:34,980
I would love to read that one.

1364
00:53:34,980 --> 00:53:36,980
How do you guys pick yours?

1365
00:53:36,980 --> 00:53:39,980
I personally, we have two different methods for sure.

1366
00:53:39,980 --> 00:53:44,980
Like her and I personally, I will like listen to true crime podcasts a lot.

1367
00:53:44,980 --> 00:53:48,980
Like I have like four or five that I listen to regularly yours included.

1368
00:53:48,980 --> 00:53:53,980
And if I hear a story that I really like Joseph Callinger, for example, like I heard a podcast

1369
00:53:53,980 --> 00:53:58,980
episode about him like a few weeks ago and I mentioned in the episode that, you know,

1370
00:53:58,980 --> 00:54:00,980
oh my gosh, sorry.

1371
00:54:00,980 --> 00:54:06,980
Um, you know, if I if I hear a story that's very interesting to me via a podcast episode,

1372
00:54:06,980 --> 00:54:11,980
but unfortunately, the people that are hosting the episode, and it's not the theme of their

1373
00:54:11,980 --> 00:54:14,980
podcast to focus on the mental health part of it, right?

1374
00:54:14,980 --> 00:54:16,980
It doesn't make sense for them to do that.

1375
00:54:16,980 --> 00:54:21,980
But if they kind of gloss over, so to speak, the mental health aspect, I'll look like look into it.

1376
00:54:21,980 --> 00:54:26,980
And if it's significant, like a contributing factor, I find that very interesting.

1377
00:54:26,980 --> 00:54:29,980
Not only because it's an interesting case and I'd like to cover it for our listeners,

1378
00:54:29,980 --> 00:54:35,980
but also to shed some more light on that case specifically and on the mental disorder that could have

1379
00:54:35,980 --> 00:54:37,980
potentially caused the case.

1380
00:54:37,980 --> 00:54:38,980
Right.

1381
00:54:38,980 --> 00:54:39,980
So that's one of the ways.

1382
00:54:39,980 --> 00:54:42,980
I mean, of course, we've done some pretty big names.

1383
00:54:42,980 --> 00:54:49,980
Another thing that I at the very beginning, I literally used to just Google serial killer with mental illness or killer with

1384
00:54:49,980 --> 00:54:53,980
mental illness and I would go based off of the mental illness and then find someone from there.

1385
00:54:53,980 --> 00:54:56,980
I wouldn't find someone and then just hope that they were diagnosed.

1386
00:54:56,980 --> 00:54:57,980
Right.

1387
00:54:57,980 --> 00:54:59,980
Yeah, that's a good way for me personally.

1388
00:54:59,980 --> 00:55:01,980
I like to create a trail.

1389
00:55:01,980 --> 00:55:08,980
I don't know if anybody's caught on Louis, like I mentioned in the last episode, he binged it for an entire month.

1390
00:55:08,980 --> 00:55:14,980
Louis probably can see there's a bit of like, oh my gosh, she mentioned him here and then in two weeks he was here.

1391
00:55:14,980 --> 00:55:15,980
You know.

1392
00:55:15,980 --> 00:55:20,980
So I like to do a lot of that or just talking with hi, Seamus.

1393
00:55:20,980 --> 00:55:22,980
He is such a baby.

1394
00:55:22,980 --> 00:55:23,980
You are a baby.

1395
00:55:23,980 --> 00:55:24,980
Come here.

1396
00:55:24,980 --> 00:55:26,980
Come here.

1397
00:55:26,980 --> 00:55:27,980
Sit down.

1398
00:55:27,980 --> 00:55:28,980
Be nice.

1399
00:55:28,980 --> 00:55:36,980
So I do that or if somebody had listened to a recent episode and said, oh my gosh, that case reminds me so much of blah,

1400
00:55:36,980 --> 00:55:37,980
blah, blah, blah.

1401
00:55:37,980 --> 00:55:39,980
And I'll look into it and if it fits and it fits.

1402
00:55:39,980 --> 00:55:40,980
Yeah.

1403
00:55:40,980 --> 00:55:41,980
So yeah.

1404
00:55:41,980 --> 00:55:43,980
We've done a couple of requests here and there though.

1405
00:55:43,980 --> 00:55:46,980
Definitely the listeners help out a lot.

1406
00:55:46,980 --> 00:55:47,980
Yeah, for sure.

1407
00:55:47,980 --> 00:55:50,980
Like that one we got from Norway was really, really cool.

1408
00:55:50,980 --> 00:55:52,980
It was a really interesting episode.

1409
00:55:52,980 --> 00:56:00,980
Lena was so nice and responsive and stuff with her request.

1410
00:56:00,980 --> 00:56:03,980
I feel like I had a request for you, Hillary.

1411
00:56:03,980 --> 00:56:06,980
You sent me one one time.

1412
00:56:06,980 --> 00:56:07,980
And I've got it down.

1413
00:56:07,980 --> 00:56:08,980
Did I?

1414
00:56:08,980 --> 00:56:09,980
Okay.

1415
00:56:09,980 --> 00:56:10,980
Yeah, I don't remember what it was.

1416
00:56:10,980 --> 00:56:11,980
Let's just go sleep in here.

1417
00:56:11,980 --> 00:56:12,980
Just sleep down.

1418
00:56:12,980 --> 00:56:13,980
Oh my gosh.

1419
00:56:13,980 --> 00:56:14,980
You're hitting all these chords.

1420
00:56:14,980 --> 00:56:15,980
I know.

1421
00:56:15,980 --> 00:56:17,980
I feel like it's always a cat that interrupts our DAK lives.

1422
00:56:17,980 --> 00:56:18,980
Every time.

1423
00:56:18,980 --> 00:56:22,980
And usually we would pause and not let you.

1424
00:56:22,980 --> 00:56:23,980
Is there another boy in here?

1425
00:56:23,980 --> 00:56:24,980
Yeah, there's two cats in here.

1426
00:56:24,980 --> 00:56:25,980
Oh my gosh.

1427
00:56:25,980 --> 00:56:26,980
Oh gosh.

1428
00:56:26,980 --> 00:56:27,980
Okay.

1429
00:56:27,980 --> 00:56:28,980
Hillary, do you have anything else?

1430
00:56:28,980 --> 00:56:29,980
It's about an hour in.

1431
00:56:29,980 --> 00:56:33,980
It's usually about the time that we wrap it up, especially when these cats are being annoying.

1432
00:56:33,980 --> 00:56:35,980
Not that I can think of.

1433
00:56:35,980 --> 00:56:36,980
It's really fun.

1434
00:56:36,980 --> 00:56:38,980
I'm I enjoyed doing it.

1435
00:56:38,980 --> 00:56:40,980
Yeah, it's kind of just like random banter.

1436
00:56:40,980 --> 00:56:44,980
We don't really have like an outline or like a topic list, but I think we talked about

1437
00:56:44,980 --> 00:56:45,980
some pretty good things.

1438
00:56:45,980 --> 00:56:48,980
Give us all your plugs, Hillary.

1439
00:56:48,980 --> 00:56:52,980
Oh, well, we, we don't have as many as you guys.

1440
00:56:52,980 --> 00:56:55,980
We just have the Instagram, which is at lady underscore.

1441
00:56:55,980 --> 00:56:56,980
You're scaring us.

1442
00:56:56,980 --> 00:56:59,980
And then just our podcasts, which is lady, you're scaring us.

1443
00:56:59,980 --> 00:57:02,980
And is that going to be on Apple and Spotify?

1444
00:57:02,980 --> 00:57:03,980
Oh, yes.

1445
00:57:03,980 --> 00:57:04,980
Yes.

1446
00:57:04,980 --> 00:57:05,980
And then we'll Spotify.

1447
00:57:05,980 --> 00:57:10,980
And then I think there's some other little ones like those two, but that's that's sprouted.

1448
00:57:10,980 --> 00:57:11,980
I think.

1449
00:57:11,980 --> 00:57:12,980
Yeah.

1450
00:57:12,980 --> 00:57:13,980
Yeah.

1451
00:57:13,980 --> 00:57:14,980
Yeah.

1452
00:57:14,980 --> 00:57:15,980
No, but sprouts.

1453
00:57:15,980 --> 00:57:16,980
Yeah.

1454
00:57:16,980 --> 00:57:18,980
That's what we like host through.

1455
00:57:18,980 --> 00:57:24,980
And then you just like pick a bunch of little other podcasts, you know, apps or whatever,

1456
00:57:24,980 --> 00:57:26,980
but yeah, Spotify and Apple are the big ones.

1457
00:57:26,980 --> 00:57:29,980
I did not know that we do ours through RSS.

1458
00:57:29,980 --> 00:57:30,980
Yeah.

1459
00:57:30,980 --> 00:57:35,980
I always love asking other podcasts how they record and what they, you know, use as far

1460
00:57:35,980 --> 00:57:41,980
as like equipment or how their setup is or where they, you know, what platforms they mainly

1461
00:57:41,980 --> 00:57:42,980
use.

1462
00:57:42,980 --> 00:57:43,980
So that's always so interesting.

1463
00:57:43,980 --> 00:57:44,980
I find that interesting.

1464
00:57:44,980 --> 00:57:45,980
Yeah, for sure.

1465
00:57:45,980 --> 00:57:51,980
So is there any chance that you guys are going to be at the podcast festival in Texas?

1466
00:57:51,980 --> 00:57:53,980
Fly all the way out here.

1467
00:57:53,980 --> 00:57:54,980
No, it sounds fun though.

1468
00:57:54,980 --> 00:57:57,980
I would, I would, but like our work schedules are kind of crazy.

1469
00:57:57,980 --> 00:57:58,980
Oh, yeah, for sure.

1470
00:57:58,980 --> 00:57:59,980
Yeah, we're definitely.

1471
00:57:59,980 --> 00:58:00,980
Definitely.

1472
00:58:00,980 --> 00:58:01,980
I bet.

1473
00:58:01,980 --> 00:58:07,980
Talk, discussing earlier about how we can document some of that for all of our listeners.

1474
00:58:07,980 --> 00:58:08,980
And yeah, we're really excited.

1475
00:58:08,980 --> 00:58:11,980
So I think it's going to launch like a new era.

1476
00:58:11,980 --> 00:58:12,980
Yeah, I'm excited.

1477
00:58:12,980 --> 00:58:14,980
I'm excited for you guys.

1478
00:58:14,980 --> 00:58:15,980
I think it's going to be really cool.

1479
00:58:15,980 --> 00:58:18,980
I'll definitely want to hear about it.

1480
00:58:18,980 --> 00:58:21,980
Next year it'll be a little closer to you guys and then we'll fly out.

1481
00:58:21,980 --> 00:58:22,980
Yeah.

1482
00:58:22,980 --> 00:58:24,980
I mean, honestly, that's not too, too far.

1483
00:58:24,980 --> 00:58:25,980
Yeah, it's true.

1484
00:58:25,980 --> 00:58:26,980
Because last year it was in Chicago.

1485
00:58:26,980 --> 00:58:29,980
So who's to say it's not going to be in Florida next year or something.

1486
00:58:29,980 --> 00:58:31,980
Yeah, maybe we'll just face time.

1487
00:58:31,980 --> 00:58:32,980
You guys over there.

1488
00:58:32,980 --> 00:58:33,980
Yeah.

1489
00:58:33,980 --> 00:58:34,980
Yeah, we should do that.

1490
00:58:34,980 --> 00:58:37,980
Just give y'all a little bit of a little slide booth.

1491
00:58:37,980 --> 00:58:38,980
Yeah.

1492
00:58:38,980 --> 00:58:39,980
Well, thanks for joining us.

1493
00:58:39,980 --> 00:58:40,980
That was a lot of fun.

1494
00:58:40,980 --> 00:58:42,980
I'm glad we were able to do this.

1495
00:58:42,980 --> 00:58:43,980
Yeah.

1496
00:58:43,980 --> 00:58:45,980
Yeah, maybe we can do it again sometime and have like Taylor.

1497
00:58:45,980 --> 00:58:46,980
Yes, that'd be awesome.

1498
00:58:46,980 --> 00:58:47,980
That'd be awesome.

1499
00:58:47,980 --> 00:58:53,980
Now that we have this way of recording via Discord, we can kind of record with anyone

1500
00:58:53,980 --> 00:58:54,980
anywhere, right?

1501
00:58:54,980 --> 00:58:57,980
The possibilities are endless now.

1502
00:58:57,980 --> 00:58:59,980
Anybody in Australia hit me up.

1503
00:58:59,980 --> 00:59:02,980
Anybody from, what was it, South Dakota?

1504
00:59:02,980 --> 00:59:03,980
South Dakota.

1505
00:59:03,980 --> 00:59:05,980
We actually finally got our listener in South Dakota.

1506
00:59:05,980 --> 00:59:07,980
On you guys, were you upload?

1507
00:59:07,980 --> 00:59:10,980
Does it show you like locations of your listeners?

1508
00:59:10,980 --> 00:59:11,980
Yeah, it was a world map.

1509
00:59:11,980 --> 00:59:12,980
Isn't that crazy to look at them?

1510
00:59:12,980 --> 00:59:15,980
Like, do you ever just look at some and you're like, how did that even happen?

1511
00:59:15,980 --> 00:59:16,980
Oh yeah.

1512
00:59:16,980 --> 00:59:17,980
Oh yeah.

1513
00:59:17,980 --> 00:59:18,980
Singapore.

1514
00:59:18,980 --> 00:59:19,980
Yeah.

1515
00:59:19,980 --> 00:59:20,980
India.

1516
00:59:20,980 --> 00:59:21,980
I'm like, who was listening to us in India?

1517
00:59:21,980 --> 00:59:22,980
That's so cool.

1518
00:59:22,980 --> 00:59:26,980
Like how did you come across anybody that's listening to either one of our podcasts?

1519
00:59:26,980 --> 00:59:29,980
How did you come across our podcast?

1520
00:59:29,980 --> 00:59:30,980
Yeah.

1521
00:59:30,980 --> 00:59:34,980
Instagram, where you just on Apple Podcast and looked up true crime or something.

1522
00:59:34,980 --> 00:59:35,980
That'd be great.

1523
00:59:35,980 --> 00:59:36,980
Email us.

1524
00:59:36,980 --> 00:59:40,980
Collect a few of those emails and then have one Monday like dedicated to reading those

1525
00:59:40,980 --> 00:59:41,980
emails.

1526
00:59:41,980 --> 00:59:42,980
That'd be so cool.

1527
00:59:42,980 --> 00:59:43,980
That would be the move.

1528
00:59:43,980 --> 00:59:44,980
Yeah.

1529
00:59:44,980 --> 00:59:45,980
I agree.

1530
00:59:45,980 --> 00:59:47,980
Okay, well I think we're signing off.

1531
00:59:47,980 --> 00:59:49,980
Hillary, do you want to do the Love You By with us?

1532
00:59:49,980 --> 00:59:50,980
Sure.

1533
00:59:50,980 --> 00:59:51,980
Okay.

1534
00:59:51,980 --> 00:59:52,980
We'll see you in the next video.

1535
00:59:52,980 --> 00:59:53,980
3, 2, 1.

1536
00:59:53,980 --> 00:59:54,980
Love you.

1537
00:59:54,980 --> 00:59:55,980
Bye.

1538
00:59:55,980 --> 01:00:21,980
Bye.

