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Welcome back to another episode of Diagnosing a Killer, the mental breakdown.
I'm Kenna.
I'm Koelle.
And yeah.
I sound really good on this side.
You do?
You sound great.
I don't know why.
That's weird.
You just have a great voice.
I think it's the way the microphone's set.
I don't know.
I like it though.
Me too.
It sounds like nice and crisp.
Crisp and clean.
Clean.
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My goal is to dress up like Moira from Schitt's Creek.
We said that at the same time, that was so weird.
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Hell yeah.
So, on Patreon are tier two and tier three patrons, however you want to say it, however
you say it, we'll receive an extra bonus episode every month on the 29th and that's coming
up, that's going to be in just a few short weeks.
That is coming up.
We have a duze.
That's a duze.
We have two duzees because it actually falls on a Thursday, so I'm releasing my case or
are you releasing your case on the 29th?
You have both.
Yeah, both.
I want to be the following after that.
Oh yes, that's true.
And then a lot of me.
The week before that though, you don't know who I'm doing, but I have a duzee that I think
correlates with your duzee because I know who you're doing for the bonus Patreon episode.
We always discuss who we're doing for those, so yeah.
We will definitely drop who we are doing on that Patreon exclusive episode the Thursday
before.
Oh yeah.
So, you're going to get Kenna's case that apparently has something to do with my case.
Not just something to do, but people like correlate the two a lot.
Okay, okay.
And then that same day you'll get a teaser for who we're doing on the 29th.
I'm really excited.
So excited.
Before we begin, we did get another email, so I'd like to talk about that really quick.
This is from one of our very loyal listeners, Sarah.
Hey Sarah.
How's it going?
She says, hey friends, I just finished listening to the two-part Elliot Rodger podcast and
what a doozy.
While listening to it, I could not help but struggle to remember where I heard of him
before and I just figured it out.
So I used to watch a now controversial YouTubers conspiracy theory videos and he did a video
talking about a YouTube channel where this creator makes posts and fan edits of Elliot.
I also found her Twitter and that's still very active.
I didn't know if this was something you were aware of, was a thing, or just didn't mention,
or if I've now burned into you with this new information.
I don't know if there could be something said to maybe why people go on to have crushes
on serial killers like people did when Ted Bundy was on trial.
I have no idea.
I'll attach the link to the Twitter.
I couldn't find the YouTube channel so I'll attach the YouTube video I was referring to.
I'd like to also make a note that I'm extremely aware of how terrible this YouTuber is now
and I watched him when I was in high school and didn't know any better.
Not trying to make excuses.
However, I know better now.
Essentially.
We all do better, right?
We know better, you do better.
I love that.
I know better.
I love that essentially and I love the doozy.
That's all these things that we say a lot.
I love it.
She also says, thank you for all the hard work you do and I appreciate the way you both lighten
the subject matter without taking away from the victims, which I thought was really nice.
Thanks Sarah.
I personally did not look up this YouTuber but did you?
No.
I don't think that...
I just don't...
I don't know if I want to.
I don't care to know about it.
I just think it's really interesting.
Thank you Sarah for bringing the information.
If it's controversial, I don't know if I want it.
I agree.
I completely agree.
Maybe at one point I'll do it and she'll actually put where to start in the video.
I mean researching Timothy McVeigh was no walk in the park either.
I mean I'm sure the FBI was like...
It was probably Roger that she's talking about.
I know.
Oh my God.
Yeah, just Timothy McVeigh and all of his white supremacy shit.
It was like, oh God, this is miserable.
I'm going to get fucking flagged.
I am.
So I responded to her and I just asked, you know, of course if she was okay with us mentioning
her name, her response.
I'd love to be mentioned in the next episode.
Can't wait to hear what you both have to say about it.
Thanks so much for all the hard work you guys both do.
I already said that but I genuinely mean it.
You both put so much hard work and it shows.
In my mind we're all best friends and the fact that you've replied both to my Instagram
DM and now this email, it feels that delusion.
And it's really goofy way, not like a creepy stalker way, I promise.
It's okay, Sarah.
You can be our first.
I love that.
You're our first stalker.
I love that.
Well we always love hearing from you guys obviously and I'm sure that you know now, if you didn't
before, that we're very responsive to our people that reach out to us.
Yeah.
And we continue to hit us up and continue to give your suggestions.
I have a couple in the works and yeah.
One of our Patreon members, Louie, I think we mentioned a few weeks ago, had messaged
me personally a few days ago and said that he had just essentially caught up.
And that only took him what, a month?
That's how much he's been listening.
Geez, I love it.
Incredible.
Love to hear it.
I love when I see people out that are friends of ours but also listeners and they always
say what episode they're on.
As soon as they see me they're like, hey, I just listened to this episode.
Or they throw a catchphrase back.
Yeah, I love it.
I love it.
Okay, well we're going to get into this mental breakdown.
This one's going to be really interesting.
I really hope that you like it.
So today we are going to be talking about the top 10 longest prison sentences ever given.
Hate it.
I'm kidding.
Why?
I'm kidding.
I hope you love it.
I hate it.
I'm kidding.
No, that sounds really interesting.
Longest prison sentences ever given?
Yes.
Okay.
So this was circa like 2019.
That's where I found most of my information so it might be a little outdated but it's
top 10.
I'm going to go from like 10 to 1 so we're going to count down to like the biggest one.
Content warning.
This episode does contain descriptions of bullying, child abuse, sexual assault, kidnapping,
sodomy, and mass shootings.
If this episode is not for you, please feel free to listen to another one of our episodes.
Remember your mental health is important and we love you.
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Way to insert my content warning.
Sorry.
It was a doozy.
It's a doozy.
All right, are we ready?
Hold on, I need some water.
Okay.
Okay, back.
Here we go.
Number 10 is Robert Joseph Long, aka Babajolong.
Babajolong.
So, before I get into this, actually I should have said, some of these people you could
find like a lot of information on them and some you couldn't find any even though they're
like infamous, like very infamous.
Yeah.
Some of these are going to be right into the point like what they did and what their sentence
was.
Others are going to be a little more detailed.
Okay.
So, from what I could find.
Okay.
So again, Babajolong.
Babajolong.
He was born on October 14th, 1953 in Canova, West Virginia, to Joe and Loretta Long.
Robert was actually born with an extra X chromosome resulting in an excess of estrogen and female
typical traits in an otherwise male presenting body.
Okay.
This condition is known as Kline Filter Syndrome.
Due to this condition, Robert was teased a lot as a child and he would actually undergo
breast reduction surgery in his adolescence.
Wow.
So, you had like, well, I guess what they usually say for men is gynecomastia, but I
guess that's different because this would be due to estrogen, not gynecomastia.
Yeah.
I don't think it's due to estrogen.
I think it's an over development of the tissue.
Yes.
And it's essentially, it looks the same.
I guess it presents the same way, but it's a chromosome.
Yeah.
He would also suffer from multiple different head injuries as a child or various accidents
that were not really like explained in detail.
So, I don't know.
Yeah.
Just sweep that under a rug.
Although, keep in mind, this is for brevity's sake.
I'm not going to go through everybody's extremely long case because that would be like five hours.
Especially if he got hit in the head that many times.
Right.
Beginning in 1981, Robert would look through classified ads in order to find women that
would maybe be alone if they said, you know, I don't run.
Honestly, I'll be honest, I don't really know what a classified ad is.
But okay, so the-
Please, please go.
Okay.
You want me to tell you?
Yes.
Okay.
Sorry, I didn't mean to be like, oh my God.
No, I'm not letting in.
I'm used to it.
It's fine.
Classified ads being, well, in the newspapers, it used to have an entire section that was
people that were putting in ads in the paper, either to find jobs or lost and found or-
That's what I thought.
Like the lonely hearts, would be like a portion of that.
So same thing.
Yeah.
That's exactly what I thought.
So Robert would search through these and he would find ones that were, they looked like
they had been posted by women.
And it would usually be like maybe lawn work or something that would have to be done at
their home, right?
Vonerable little old lady looking for somebody to tend her garden.
Yeah, exactly.
So he would be successful at finding women that would be alone.
He would go to their home and then he would casually ask to use the bathroom.
Of course.
While he was in the bathroom, he would get his rape kit together.
Oh my God.
And ultimately would rob and sexually assault these women.
Pretty bad.
He actually would be known to commit at least 50 sexual assaults and he would be dubbed
the classified ads rapist.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
That's incredible.
I've never even heard of this guy.
I know me either.
But this was in 1980.
Well, he was- oh, 1980.
Okay.
So he would be tried and convicted of rape in 1981, but he would actually request a retrial
which was granted.
What?
Again, brevity's sake, I could have gone like down to the rabbit hole, but I just wanted
to get the main content out here.
Was he on trial for just one rape or was he on- or this was for a lot?
I think it was for multiple.
Okay.
The charges for this would actually later be dropped.
So I don't think it was all 50, but it was like probably more than one.
I'm assuming.
Yeah.
So Robert would then move to the Tampa Bay area in 1983 and in 1984, while on probation
for assault, he would actually rape and strangle 20 year old Ann Wick leaving her body in a
rural area.
Jesus.
This was his first murder.
So her body would be found later that year in November and throughout kind of learning
about her life, police discovered that she was actually engaged when she was murdered
and she was hitchhiking, which is how she came into contact with Robert.
Okay.
Over the next eight months, Robert would abduct, rape, and murder at least 10 different
women.
So he started with this one and then just kept going.
During this time as well, he was still committing his usual crimes and was sexually assaulting
multiple women without killing them as well.
How did he get off the first time?
Dude, I literally don't fucking know.
And it really, like I said, I didn't go into detail on purpose, but that actually didn't
have any detail.
It was just kind of glossed over.
Yeah.
Like that's crazy.
I wonder if he claimed like habeas corpus or something.
And that's why there was a mistrial is because of new evidence or whatever.
Maybe statute of limitations was really not a thing back then.
I don't know.
Or maybe it was a thing.
I mean, in the early hours of November 3rd, 1984, Robert abducted 17 year old Lisa McVeigh
as she was riding her bike home from work.
She was taken to Robert's home where she was sexually assaulted repeatedly.
Lisa would remember while blindfolded that she was trying to leave as many fingerprints
behind in his home as possible in order to help police if and when it came to an investigation.
Hell yeah.
After 26 hours, Robert would actually release Lisa because she's been blindfolded and she
would immediately go to police.
Benefit alert.
Yeah.
Robert Joseph Long would be arrested on November 16th, 1984.
Babajowl.
Robert would plead guilty to eight of the homicides and the abduction and rape of Lisa
McVeigh and would receive 26 consecutive life sentences without the possibility of parole
and seven life sentences with possibility after 25 years on top of all of that.
So literally like you're fucked.
But I think that's why he had such a big sentence is because of the stuff that got
like glossed over in the past.
Yeah.
They're like, we're not letting him out again.
The death penalty was on the table as well and in July of 1986, Bobby Jo Long was found
guilty and sentenced to death via the electric chair.
When all was said and done, according to the Florida Department of Corrections, Long was
ultimately serving one five year sentence, four 99 year sentences, 28 life sentences
and one death sentence.
And this is the one that has the least amount.
This is the least.
Oh my gosh.
Whoa.
Number 10.
Oh my gosh.
On April 23, 2019, Bobby Jo Long was executed and chose to not make a last statement.
I choose to speak quiet.
So that's Bobby Jo Long.
It reminds me of a case that I watched once and I'm sure it was forensic files or something.
But a young lady was sexually assaulted in a truck and she didn't know if she was going
to survive or not.
So she did the same thing with the fingerprints and stuff or she would like lick or spit on
like surrounding area.
And then the window and like the car, the truck was rolled down and you know that rubber
bit that's on the, you know, when you roll the window down, it's that rubber bit.
It's like a buffer.
Yeah.
Exactly.
That little rubber part, she bit down on it several times.
So she was like fingerprints, DNA, dental records, everything, you know?
Yeah.
Seriously.
Honestly, like that's such a empowering like thing to me because in that situation, you've
got to think that like you might die.
And still having the will and the cognizant to be like, if I die, you're not going to
live with it.
Yeah, exactly.
Bad bitch alert for sure.
Okay.
So number nine is Billy Joe Godfrey.
So I know Bobby Jo Long.
Billy Joe Godfrey was born in 1963.
His full birthday and like really any information about his childhood were not really laid out,
which is I was telling you so funny because these people are like super infamous, but
like there's nothing about their child.
I guess the internet gets like clouded with their sentences rather than, you know, their
early life and stuff.
Yeah, that's true.
In October of 2014, two adult men came forward with allegations that they were sexually assaulted
hundreds of times by Billy when they were growing up.
One of these boys was Billy's own stepson and the other's identity was not released.
They told police that they were forced to perform sexual acts on Billy as well as Billy
performing some on them hundreds of times during the years of 95 and 99 while the boys
were between the ages of eight and 13.
So very young.
That's awful.
I know it's terrible, but the courage like as an adult male to come forward and say, listen,
like we're tired of keeping this secret.
It's embarrassing.
I mean, it can feel embarrassing.
Yeah.
In July of 2015, Billy Joe Godfrey pleaded guilty to 35 counts of first degree sodomy,
statutory sodomy, excuse me, and was handed down 35 life sentences as a result.
35 life sentences.
This would be the equivalent of 1,050 years in prison.
Fucking vampire.
You're saying there's a chance.
He's a fucking vampire.
Phelps County prosecutor, Brendan Fox, stated after working the case, quote, this was the
worst case of child sexual abuse I have ever seen.
These victims were subjected to hundreds of incidents of child abuse over many years.
He also stated that he was proud of the victim's courage and honesty in coming forward.
He stated, quote, too often victims of sexual abuse suffer in silence for years due to embarrassment
and shame.
To come forward, they have said that they will not suffer in silence.
And I hope other victims become empowered and also come forward to confront their abusers.
Good for them.
Hell yeah.
No wonder all that other stuff was overshadowed because they give them a fuck about this guy's
life.
Exactly.
This guy's a douche.
These guys are the heroes.
Seriously.
Wow.
So that was Billy Joe Low.
Billy Joe.
Really, really, Billy Joe Gottfried.
Number eight is Renee Lopez.
OK.
Renee Lopez was born in 1975 and was living in Fresno, California at the time of his arrest.
When his daughter was around 12 years old, one of Renee's friends sexually assaulted
her.
And instead of stopping the horrific act, Renee decided that he would contribute to the
crime.
His 12 year old fucking daughter.
His own daughter.
Renee would continue to sexually abuse his young daughter two to three times a week from
May of 2009 to May of 2013 for four years.
By the way, obviously we all know to do math, but she would be 16.
So from 12 to 16, that is formative fucking years.
Not that sexual assault is good at any age, but formative fucking years.
Well, if not, it was a similar case to this, but that she was essentially in love with
her father.
Not her.
OK.
The young girl miraculously decided that she was going to run away from her father
and ultimately would turn him into police again in 2013.
In September of 2016, Renee Lopez was found guilty of 186 felony counts of sexual assault,
including dozens of counts of rape of a minor.
The victim was known as saying, quote, when my father abused me, I was young.
I had no power, no voice.
I was defenseless.
She was 23 by the time that he got convicted.
Oh my gosh.
Can you imagine living in fucking fear from like 16 to 23?
Yeah.
From 12 to 23.
Yeah.
Excuse me.
Yeah, but seriously, just waiting for, like after you came forward and the whole process
just to be done so you know that your abuser is behind bars.
And again, like you said, formidable years.
That's never going to leave her.
Absolutely not.
Most of her understanding what relationships are and what love is and how you connect with
another human being and that's fucking gross.
What a pig.
Renee would turn down two different pleas because he would refuse to admit his guilt
because he's like, oh, I didn't do it.
Like you, we know you did it.
We're off.
We're trying to offer you like a plea.
Yeah.
Thankfully he turned it down though because prosecutors actually stated that had he admitted
his guilt the first time, he would have only been required to serve 13 years.
13 years.
Yes.
They were giving him a plea deal for 13 years if he admitted to be guilty the first time.
Well, he's clearly not a smart individual.
Seriously.
Yes.
Before his trial, he was actually offered a plea deal once again in which he would have
only been required to serve 22 years if he admitted guilt.
But once again, he refused stating that he should have already been released because it's
ridiculous that he's been serving time awaiting trial.
I already served my time just for release me.
Have you?
Oh my God, that sounds like Sarah Boone.
Have you heard that there's a chick that zipped up her boyfriend in the suitcase?
Oh yeah, I do know that.
Fucking Sarah Boone.
She's like, this is ridiculous.
I don't understand why I have to sit here when I'm not even talking to counsel and
I have no idea what's going on in my own trial.
She's personally writing the judge and the judge is like, I can't do anything for you.
I'm a fucking judge.
Yeah.
Talk to your fucking counsel.
You're an idiot.
Yeah, she's definitely one of those people that's like, I didn't do anything wrong.
You saw her interrogation video where all she's saying is, but it wasn't intentional.
It wasn't intentional.
She hears that one word and she just uses it and runs with it.
Yeah, you think the drunk drivers intentionally try to run over people and kill them with
the, no, but it's fucking, it's murder.
You got behind the wheel and you decided to drive drunk and you killed someone.
You did something to cause this.
To cause the death.
No one just zips their boyfriend up in the suitcase like for shits and gigs.
Like, no, you know, and if you do, you should be aware that you could kill someone like
to do that.
And I'm sure she went to bed like, got him.
That's not funny.
I'm going to get him.
Well, that's, I mean, she just, she just seemed like one of those alcoholics.
Yeah.
She was just a vengeful alcoholic.
It was definitely like to punish him.
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So yeah, he again, wasn't going to admit guilt and he's like, I should have been released
already because I didn't do anything.
So long story short, he would actually ultimately be sentenced to 1,503 years for his crimes
in 2017.
Good luck.
Okay.
You don't want to take 13 years.
How about 1500?
Yeah.
That's fine.
You go ahead.
You can deal with you so you don't have to spend the rest of your life in prison if
you can be reformed.
He deserves you.
Oh, no.
He deserves every single one of those fucking years.
I'm just saying.
You know, but because you're like, it's like, okay, you're going to be that much of a dickhead
to where you can't even admit that you're wrong.
Yeah.
You're that stubborn.
Fucking throw the book at him.
Bye.
So that was in 2017.
I didn't see that he had passed.
So I think he's still alive.
Boo.
Still kicking.
Number seven, James Egan Holmes.
I knew you'd know that name.
James.
Oh my God.
Fuck this guy.
He was born on December 13th, 1987 in San Diego, California to Robert and Arlene Holmes.
According to James, he remembers being very afraid of what he referred to as nail ghosts
that would hammer on the walls at night.
We know that he's very, very mentally sick.
Like he's very mentally ill.
Yeah, no.
Remember, he was the one that was diagnosed with peridose schizophrenia by like 22 people.
Despite these fears, he was able to complete high school and get a bachelor's degree at
the University of California at Riverside in 2010.
He would then decide to pursue a graduate degree in neuroscience at the University of
Colorado moving to Aurora.
And there was a lot, a lot more about him between then and his crime, but I just jumped
to his crime.
He's definitely just personally, I feel like I have a personal stake in it since I had
friends living in the area at the time.
And I would like to tackle a case on there, but I'm also in no way, shape or form, whatever
excuses behavior because he is so severely, you know, it, it doesn't excuse behavior.
And I'm sure that there's probably multiple times in his life where someone could have
said something or done something.
Yeah, I was reading the page about him and I was like, this is, this is, this is, if
anything, like one of the cases we would do, you know, so this is definitely one that I
want.
I'm glad that it, almost glad that it was in this list because I wanted to talk about
it.
On July 20th, 2012, a mass shooting occurred inside a Century 16 movie theater in Aurora,
Colorado during a midnight screening of the film, The Dark Knight Rises.
Dressed in tactical gear, a 24 year old James set off tear gas grenades and began shooting
into the audience with multiple firearms after propping open the exit door to access
his vehicle during the movie.
I said, excess, not access, but you know what it meant.
Most people would be killed in the shooting with 70 other being seriously injured, 58
of those from gunfire.
This would come to be known as the deadliest shooting by a lone perpetrator in the history
of Colorado and the second deadliest shooting in the state following Columbine.
Yeah.
James would be arrested minutes after the shooting while in his vehicle.
He would confess to the shooting, but would plead not guilty by a reason of insanity.
Prosecutors would seek the death penalty.
The trial began on April 27th, 2015.
Do you know how long he was sentenced to?
I have no idea.
I'm surprised he's third on the list, fourth on the list.
So trial began on April 27th and on July 16th of the same year, James would be convicted
of 12 counts of first degree murder, 140 counts of attempted first degree murder, and one
count of possessing explosives.
James would be found guilty and given 12 life sentences along with 3,318 years for
the attempted murders.
3,000?
That's just for the attempted, not even for the 12 life sentences for the murders.
That's amazing.
So long.
He can't, I mean he's just, in my opinion, he's one of those people that, not that any
of these people should be let out.
I need to say that as well because clearly, you know, everybody here deserves everything
that they're getting, but he just is definitely one of those people that I come to him like
that.
You could just never let that guy out.
You could just never let him out.
There's no way.
He wouldn't be able to survive.
One would take his life.
Or he would take his own.
Or he, you know, or he would perpetrate more crimes.
It's like Mark David Chapman.
There's no fucking way.
There's no way.
Someone would kill him immediately.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah, definitely Trish and I call it the Death, Dark Knight Rises curse because when
we were working at the movie theater, we had a hell of a night that night.
Somebody had suffered some kind of a medical condition in one of the theaters that we were
working.
And it was the midnight showings and then to wake up the next morning and know about the
shootings, it was like, it was a lot.
It was a lot.
Fuck the Dark Knight Rises.
It's fucking cursed.
All right.
So number six, number six, Martin Bryant, which I probably sounded super American when I
said Martin Bryant.
Martin Bryant.
Oh, is he?
Is he?
Martin Bryant.
How would you say it?
I don't know.
I don't think.
Let me think.
I don't know.
I'm not in New Zealand.
Martin Bryant.
That sounds a little British.
That's British.
Either way, he was born on May 7th, 1967 in Hobart, Tasmania to parents Maurice and Carline
Bryant, which I actually just found out today that Tasmania is in Australia.
I did not know that.
From a young age, his mother would refer to him as a quote, annoying and different child.
Aw.
Yeah.
Like what the fuck?
And when he was evaluated by a psychiatrist at a young age, they suggested that he would
never be able to hold down a job due to the fact that he would aggravate people to such
an extent that he would always be in trouble.
What is he, a defiance disorder or something?
Yeah, seems like it.
But this is in the fucking 60s, so that's not what they call it.
They're just like, you're never going to get a job.
You're an asshole.
As a child, he was noted as pulling a snorkel off of another boy while diving and cutting
down trees on neighbors' property, like just to be a dick.
Just to be a dick.
As well as being really distant from reality and unemotional.
At school, Martin was known as a disruptive and violent child who suffered severe bullying
by other children.
Suffered from severe bullying.
He would be suspended from school in 1977, and psychological assessments at this time
would note that he was torturing animals as well.
He would return to school the following year with better behavior, however, he was still
taking to bullying much younger children.
So better behavior, but not resolved behavior.
And of course nothing's happening.
He's been evaluated now twice that we know of.
Yeah, nothing.
Just like, oh, you suck.
Just run along.
Boys will be boys.
On April 28th, 1996, Martin Bryant would commit a mass murder at Port Arthur, a tourist
town in Tasmania.
Martin would kill ultimately 35 people and wound 23 others, two of the murder victims
actually being people that he knew personally.
What?
They worked at a hotel, I think, or a business around the area.
I don't know.
I've never thought about that before.
If you are perpetrating a mass murder or a mass shooting, clearly the Columbine guys
or whatever, those were their classmates.
But if I remember correctly, I'm pretty sure they didn't target at least one or two people
because they knew them as friends.
I don't know.
I didn't really say if he targeted them or if they just were in a crossfire.
He was kind of reckless with it.
Using two semi-automatic rifles, Martin began his attack at a small cafe before moving into
a nearby gift shop, killing 20 people indiscriminately in a very short amount of time.
Many others were killed at a car park nearby, including several children.
The same year as the crimes, after being found out as the perpetrator, Martin Bryant would
plead guilty to the killings and receive 35 life sentences without parole with an additional
1,035 years on top.
So a lot of years.
A lot.
You want to hear about number five?
Number five.
Dudley.
Is it Dudley new rat?
Dudley Wayne.
I love it.
Dudley Wayne.
Kaiser.
Sounds like a tow truck operator.
Dudley Wayne.
You're pretty good.
Your car broke down, you better call him Dudley Wayne.
You're calling him Dudley Wayne.
No, name him Dudley Wayne.
Call him Dudley Wayne, brothers.
No, name him Dudley Wayne.
Dudley.
Sounds so funny.
Dudley.
It sounds funnier with those southern foreigners.
He wouldn't say it in English I said Dudley.
Dudley Wayne.
That actually sounds nice where you say southern Asian Dudley Wayne.
The difference.
That's why those English boys get away with everything.
But we can nickname him Deadly Wayne.
That's off.
Deadly, Deadly Wayne.
Alright.
Did you get it all out?
I don't think I did.
I don't think, I don't know.
We'll see.
It's gonna come back around.
Deadly Wayne was born in 1942.
And of course there's not a lot known about his childhood either.
On October 31st, 1976, so yes, you heard me right, Halloween.
Deadly.
Sorry, okay, I'm done.
This is actually, this is actually that.
Every time you say it, but even when you say it, if you're gonna try to say it like
Deadly Wayne, it's still gonna crack me up.
Dead.
Okay, we had to pause for just a second so he couldn't stop laughing.
That was, it's not even that funny.
It's just when he said it in a certain way.
Okay, I had to take my glasses off and wipe my eyes.
Okay, so again, on Halloween, he went to his estranged wife's home and would attack her
in front of their six-year-old son.
Awful.
A neighbor would hear what they described as firework sounds coming from the home and
come outside to find 29-year-old Emily Kaiser laying in the driveway of another neighbor's
home.
Has she been shot?
She had been shot in the chest while trying to escape the home with her son.
And she actually tried to talk to the neighbor that saw her, but she was unable to and she
would ultimately pass away.
Oh my God.
It was noted that her son, like, I guess they were trying to run to a neighbor's house and
he was still running when the other neighbor came out because he didn't know that she had
fallen, which is really sad.
And he was okay?
Yeah, he was okay.
Police would arrive after the neighbor alerted them and they would come across 50-year-old
Eunice Beringer and 22-year-old Richard Pyron deceased as well inside this home.
Were they friends?
So it didn't say, like, exactly how these people were connected, especially with Doerle,
but Eunice was a house mom for a fraternity and Richard was in the fraternity.
He was, like, the treasurer and he had come back to the house to get something or help
do the lawn or something.
So I don't know if they were just neighbors and they happened to be neighbors of a fraternity
house or a house that a fraternity man shared and she was just there.
Or I don't know, I think that might have been the case where they just had neighbors.
Either way, Eunice had unfortunately been shot in the forehead and Richard was shot
in the shoulder and the head, so neither one of them would survive.
Dudley would be quickly named as the perpetrator of these crimes and he would be found guilty
of three murder counts.
Since Alabama did not have the option for the death penalty at the time of these crimes,
he would be sentenced to two life terms plus 10,000 years for these crimes.
Whoa!
10,000 years!
I'll give you a satcha, crack in the neck!
Yeah, 10,000 years.
So Dud has been denied parole 10 times since his arrest.
Good.
And the amount of his sentence actually was once in the Guinness World Record Book as
the longest in the world.
He would be sentenced to the elector chair in 1977, but this conviction was actually
overturned and he is still in prison today.
I think he should be like 81 or 82 today.
So essentially they said the death penalty wasn't available then, but when the death
penalty was they were like, what's just often?
We're gonna try him.
Yeah.
But then it just got overturned.
Interesting.
Yeah.
They were like, fuck it, let him rot.
Yeah.
Wow.
We got all the ditties out.
Dittly.
Dittly Wayne, I'll never forget you.
I know.
Number four is Alan Wayne.
That was so funny.
Alan Wayne McLauren and Darren Benelford actually, both of them together.
Did they get tried together?
I mean, you're gonna tell me the story.
Sorry.
And I will just give you a hint.
These guys combined sentence is bigger than the past, but not alone.
So it's their combined sentence that made the book rather than them separately.
So they made history as being two of the people again with the largest prison sentence combined
ever recorded.
The two, along with another man who was not named, would run down a woman while driving
and force her off the road in Tulsa, Oklahoma, where they kidnapped, held hostage, and repeatedly
raped her.
Oh my God.
This assault would last several hours, even moving to a motel at one point, as well as
the victim's home, where she finally managed to call for help.
If you all see something, say something.
Seriously.
Especially when it comes to things like kidnapping or trafficking of persons at all.
Like, that's usually one of the places that they're gonna go to.
They're gonna go to a quiet motel and things like that.
If you see something like that, if you have an oracle hotel or a teller, call someone,
please.
I've said it before.
I'd rather call on it be nothing than not call it and then someone dies or someone gets
hurt.
For sure.
Evidence indicated that the three men committed 13 separate acts of rape and sodomy.
I'll rephrase.
I think it was the two men because the third man was not part of the trial.
I don't know if he actively participated.
He also was there, but I don't think he was an active dispenser.
He might have gotten a plea deal or something.
He helped with the kidnapping maybe, but not in the assault.
Yeah, I think so.
Because they really didn't have much information on him.
Although again, the two men committed 13 separate acts of rape and sodomy and contended that
the evidence contended that Anderson and McLaurin were predators.
That's what they referred to them as in the case.
When the case went to trial in 1993, McLaurin and Anderson would receive a combined 6475
years in sentences, the stiffest punishment and memory for a Tulsa County case not involving
murder.
In 1996, the two went to trial yet again and their combined sentences were then changed
to 32,500 years, one receiving 21,250 and the other 11,250.
Holy shit.
32,500 years total.
So just to break it down, they would receive 2,000 years each on four counts of rape, 2,000
years on four counts of forcible sodomy, 1,750 years for kidnapping, 1,500 years for assault
with a dangerous weapon, and 500 years each on two counts of burglary, and also single
counts of larceny and burglary.
So they got him on literally everything.
It seems a little excessive.
It's a lot.
And I'm not saying I understand a judge's position wanting it to be as impactful as
possible.
Oh yeah.
And that's the impact.
It has, you know that people aren't going to survive, but you know what?
I mean, science is developing every day.
Yeah, exactly.
But also, you know, some places don't have a limit on how much you can sentence someone.
Some places say for assault, the maximum sentence you can give is 25 years.
Some places don't have a maximum.
So why wouldn't you say, yeah, 50 fucking thousand years on the front?
Exactly.
Okay, moving on to number three.
Number three.
This is one of the ones, like the last three, again, there was like not a lot of info, so
I just put the crime.
So here we go, number three.
Charles Scott Robinson was convicted of sexual assault on a child in 1994, resulting in 5,000
years for each of the six counts against him, totaling 30,000 years.
This made him the single, a single person with the largest prison sentence ever handed
down, which is why he would be above the two guys.
Hitting children is like the most disgusting thing you can do.
It's despicable.
They had also stated that his parole offers would be served concurrently, so going to
the prison at age of 30 meant that he would not have the possibility of parole at all
until he was 108 years old.
I said, 100.
100.
He was unhundred.
So the judge was noted as telling Charles about this, quote, by doing that, I think I
can assure you that you will spend the rest of your natural life in the confines of the
Department of Corrections.
Hell yeah.
Bam.
Mic drop.
So yeah, I didn't want to go into that, especially because it's kind of yetky like that crime.
Yeah, well I don't respect the minor too.
And there wasn't any info on the minor either way.
Oh good, good.
Okay, I am going to butcher the fuck out of these next names, okay?
Let's do it.
Number two.
Okay.
Ottman, Elgnaut, Jamal Zaugman, and Emilio Suarez, Thrasherez.
Oh no.
Those are the names.
They were all arrested for mass murder and terrorism in 2006 after being found out as
the perpetrators of the 2004 Madrid bombings.
So they're in Spain.
This attack resulted in 191 casualties and injured over 1800 others.
That sounded like, that's amazing in a good way.
No, I'm like, you know, like the actual root for like awesome is that you're in awe of
it.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm not sure that it didn't say awesome, you said amazing.
I know, same thing.
Like that's incredible.
That's amazing.
Yeah, I feel that for sure.
My bad.
Sorry for judging.
No, you didn't judge.
So it said that this attack was the worst in Spanish history as the bombs were planted
on four separate commuter trains.
So this is like super planned out.
The total sentence for the three men was 42,924 years.
42,000.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
I'm kidding.
Okay, last one, and I'm going to butcher this name pronunciation as well because in my mind,
it's Chamo'e de Piazo.
But it's probably not Chamo'e.
It's probably like Chamo'e or something.
Is it spelled like Chamo'e?
Yes.
Okay.
Well, it's probably good.
She was arrested in 1989 in Thailand on counts of fraud.
She defrauded more than 16,000 people in Thailand through a pyramid scheme, which she was able
to maintain for a surprisingly long time.
She was so successful at scamming people that when she was caught, her total assets valued
nearly 250,000.
I'm sorry, 250 million, not 1,000.
Wow.
Seven other people would be convicted of corporate fraud alongside her, and she would be sentenced
to 141,078 years.
141,000 years.
Damn, Thailand doesn't look around.
Yeah, really.
Don't fuck up in Thailand.
On fraud.
That's the number one.
Yes.
Is fraud?
Yes.
141,000.
Yes.
Yeah.
Wow.
I know there wasn't a lot of info in the last three, which I was like, that's a bummer
because those are like the biggest ones.
The biggest ones.
Yeah, that's pretty much it.
That's it.
For frowd.
141,000 years.
Holy shit.
I know.
Don't fuck around in Thailand, man.
You're saying there's a chance.
You're telling me there's a chance.
You've got to come up with a cure for death.
Damn, I should have looked up like one of the odds.
Like you would live.
This probably just says zero.
Yeah, it's probably.00000 to infinity.
That's pretty true.
You just wouldn't.
It would never happen.
But yeah, that's my mental breakdown.
Different than what we've ever done, I think.
It was really different, but I really enjoyed that.
That was very different.
And we got, uh...
We got done the way you know it.
The way.
Oh my God.
Like that's going to have to be a shirt.
Just a shirt that says it's deadly Wayne.
I don't...
Yeah, well, yeah.
It's got to be like the all caps all lowercase all up.
Yeah.
You know, like the up and down like deadly Wayne.
It would be kind of cool if it looked like a Woody's Roundup type shirt, you know?
Yeah, that'd be dope.
Honestly, deadly Wayne.
Like John Wayne, but it's deadly Wayne.
Love it.
Well, yeah, that's all I have.
Thanks.
Thank you.
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That's really helpful.
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Because I noticed recently when I went to go review a podcast, I gave them five stars,
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Maybe they just see their reviews.
At least on Apple, it's that way.
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And also thank you guys for 20K.
We haven't even done that on the podcast yet.
We've reached 20,000 downloads.
I think we're at like 22 right now.
Oh, I have a revision.
I'm totally sorry, but I totally forgot to mention it last episode that the Barbara and
Richie, Dixie and Kate, not Kate, but mental breakdown that I did, I said 30,000 letters.
I mean, 300,000 letters.
I meant 30,000.
Oh, okay.
But still, 30,000 is a lot.
But it was when I listened back and I was like, why am I so bad at numbers?
I don't understand.
It's all right.
Well, 30,000 is a lot because we just talked to people that got 30,000 years.
That's true.
We're just making crimes.
Never getting out.
Never gonna make it.
All right.
Love you guys.
Bye.
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