1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 Hello! 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,120 Welcome back to another episode of Diagnosing a Killer, the mental breakdown edition. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,520 Minty Bricky, minty bricky. 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,020 Ooh, new theme song. 5 00:00:12,020 --> 00:00:13,020 New theme song. 6 00:00:13,020 --> 00:00:14,020 Hell yeah. 7 00:00:14,020 --> 00:00:15,020 Someone record that for us. 8 00:00:15,020 --> 00:00:16,020 I didn't make it a thing. 9 00:00:16,020 --> 00:00:17,020 Trade market. 10 00:00:17,020 --> 00:00:18,020 Just put it on a shirt. 11 00:00:18,020 --> 00:00:19,020 Slap it on a shirt. 12 00:00:19,020 --> 00:00:21,520 We should make a minty bricky shirt. 13 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:22,520 Minty bricky. 14 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,420 And then put like a mint breaking as like the picture. 15 00:00:25,420 --> 00:00:26,420 Like a peppermint? 16 00:00:26,420 --> 00:00:27,420 Yeah. 17 00:00:27,420 --> 00:00:28,420 Oh that'd be cute. 18 00:00:28,420 --> 00:00:29,420 That's adorable. 19 00:00:29,420 --> 00:00:30,420 Yeah. 20 00:00:30,420 --> 00:00:31,420 It was meant for you. 21 00:00:31,420 --> 00:00:32,420 Don't get it. 22 00:00:32,420 --> 00:00:33,420 Get it. 23 00:00:33,420 --> 00:00:34,420 Gotta do the elbow. 24 00:00:34,420 --> 00:00:35,420 Get it. 25 00:00:35,420 --> 00:00:36,420 Yeah. 26 00:00:36,420 --> 00:01:00,740 Get it. 27 00:01:00,740 --> 00:01:03,440 If this is your first time here, welcome. 28 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,680 And we are Kenna. 29 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:06,680 I'm Koelle. 30 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:07,680 Yeah, I forgot to say that. 31 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,680 We are Kana. 32 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,820 That's both of our names today. 33 00:01:10,820 --> 00:01:12,860 People say that we sound alike anyway, so you might as well. 34 00:01:12,860 --> 00:01:13,980 Sometimes I get us confused. 35 00:01:13,980 --> 00:01:15,140 I'm already sweating. 36 00:01:15,140 --> 00:01:16,140 This closet is so hot. 37 00:01:16,140 --> 00:01:17,140 It's always so hot in here. 38 00:01:17,140 --> 00:01:19,900 Well, I'm closer to the door, so I have like a breeze. 39 00:01:19,900 --> 00:01:21,300 Yeah, a little bit of a breeze. 40 00:01:21,300 --> 00:01:22,800 A little bit of a breeze. 41 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,500 So how was your weekend? 42 00:01:24,500 --> 00:01:26,060 It was good. 43 00:01:26,060 --> 00:01:27,740 I went to a missions game. 44 00:01:27,740 --> 00:01:28,740 You did? 45 00:01:28,740 --> 00:01:29,740 I saw that. 46 00:01:29,740 --> 00:01:30,740 Yeah. 47 00:01:30,740 --> 00:01:31,740 With our niece. 48 00:01:31,740 --> 00:01:32,740 That was a lot of fun. 49 00:01:32,740 --> 00:01:38,860 We overcast at the beginning of the game, and then it got really hot. 50 00:01:38,860 --> 00:01:42,940 And it just was one of those still-hots where there's no wind. 51 00:01:42,940 --> 00:01:43,940 Yeah. 52 00:01:43,940 --> 00:01:45,500 Oh my gosh, my ass was so sweaty. 53 00:01:45,500 --> 00:01:46,500 I had swass. 54 00:01:46,500 --> 00:01:47,500 Swass. 55 00:01:47,500 --> 00:01:48,500 Swass. 56 00:01:48,500 --> 00:01:49,500 Oh my god. 57 00:01:49,500 --> 00:01:50,500 Yeah. 58 00:01:50,500 --> 00:01:53,940 Well, for those that don't know, the missions are the minor league baseball team that we 59 00:01:53,940 --> 00:01:55,860 have here, because we don't have a major league team. 60 00:01:55,860 --> 00:01:56,860 It's true. 61 00:01:56,860 --> 00:01:57,860 And it's still fun. 62 00:01:57,860 --> 00:01:58,860 It's still a lot of fun. 63 00:01:58,860 --> 00:02:00,820 I actually was at a baseball game. 64 00:02:00,820 --> 00:02:02,540 Was it the same time as you or was it the day before? 65 00:02:02,540 --> 00:02:04,500 We were on, this was on Sunday. 66 00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:07,860 Yeah, I went to the Hooks game on Saturday. 67 00:02:07,860 --> 00:02:11,660 And also, for those of you that have heard me say my best friend's name, Dana, a bunch 68 00:02:11,660 --> 00:02:13,540 of times, she got engaged this weekend. 69 00:02:13,540 --> 00:02:14,540 Oh my gosh. 70 00:02:14,540 --> 00:02:17,420 Congratulations, Al and Dana. 71 00:02:17,420 --> 00:02:18,420 Absolutely. 72 00:02:18,420 --> 00:02:19,940 We definitely pulled one over on her. 73 00:02:19,940 --> 00:02:23,820 I am very happy about my situation, because I am bad at secrets. 74 00:02:23,820 --> 00:02:25,500 We all know, bad at lying. 75 00:02:25,500 --> 00:02:26,500 But we were able to pull it off. 76 00:02:26,500 --> 00:02:28,860 She was definitely surprised, and it was a great moment. 77 00:02:28,860 --> 00:02:30,500 I got it all on camera. 78 00:02:30,500 --> 00:02:35,860 She just showed me all of the pictures that she took of them and the proposal. 79 00:02:35,860 --> 00:02:37,340 And I'm so happy for them. 80 00:02:37,340 --> 00:02:38,620 I'm so happy for them. 81 00:02:38,620 --> 00:02:40,540 That's everything I've ever wanted for her and more. 82 00:02:40,540 --> 00:02:45,260 I feel like even the pressure's kind of taken off us, just as people that know them now. 83 00:02:45,260 --> 00:02:47,180 You know, like we're like, when is it going to happen? 84 00:02:47,180 --> 00:02:48,180 When is it going to happen? 85 00:02:48,180 --> 00:02:49,180 When is it going to happen? 86 00:02:49,180 --> 00:02:50,980 And I feel like we all felt kind of that anxiety. 87 00:02:50,980 --> 00:02:51,980 Yeah. 88 00:02:51,980 --> 00:02:53,220 That was like Wednesday morning. 89 00:02:53,220 --> 00:02:54,220 Wednesday morning. 90 00:02:54,220 --> 00:02:57,740 I think she said at one point, she goes, oh my God, I get to register for like a registry 91 00:02:57,740 --> 00:02:58,740 now. 92 00:02:58,740 --> 00:02:59,740 And I'm like, yeah, you do. 93 00:02:59,740 --> 00:03:00,740 I can't ask people for shit. 94 00:03:00,740 --> 00:03:01,740 It's really cool. 95 00:03:01,740 --> 00:03:02,740 That's so fun. 96 00:03:02,740 --> 00:03:04,740 Like when you go into like a store and they give you the little scan gun. 97 00:03:04,740 --> 00:03:05,740 Yeah. 98 00:03:05,740 --> 00:03:12,060 I remember when I was engaged and I was, Justin couldn't get off work, which was fine. 99 00:03:12,060 --> 00:03:13,060 He trusted me. 100 00:03:13,060 --> 00:03:14,060 He didn't really care. 101 00:03:14,060 --> 00:03:15,060 He didn't care about the registry. 102 00:03:15,060 --> 00:03:16,060 He knew I cared. 103 00:03:16,060 --> 00:03:19,660 So I went into Target and I got that little gun and I started, you can go around and just 104 00:03:19,660 --> 00:03:23,180 scan the items that you want as part of the registry. 105 00:03:23,180 --> 00:03:27,180 And so this woman came up to me and she was like, excuse me, where can I find blah, blah, 106 00:03:27,180 --> 00:03:28,180 blah? 107 00:03:28,180 --> 00:03:29,180 And I was like, oh my God. 108 00:03:29,180 --> 00:03:30,180 I'm just gonna be here. 109 00:03:30,180 --> 00:03:34,460 And she looked at me and she was like, with a smile on her face, just nodding because 110 00:03:34,460 --> 00:03:36,620 she was waiting for me to be like, I'm just kidding. 111 00:03:36,620 --> 00:03:38,100 It's on aisle four or whatever. 112 00:03:38,100 --> 00:03:40,260 And I was like, no, really, I don't work here. 113 00:03:40,260 --> 00:03:41,260 Are you wearing red? 114 00:03:41,260 --> 00:03:42,260 No, I wasn't. 115 00:03:42,260 --> 00:03:44,460 And that's why I was like, I'm not even wearing red. 116 00:03:44,460 --> 00:03:47,060 I'm clearly someone who just stole this gun. 117 00:03:47,060 --> 00:03:48,060 Yeah. 118 00:03:48,060 --> 00:03:49,660 You know, just beeping for the fuck of it. 119 00:03:49,660 --> 00:03:51,140 She probably thought I was insane. 120 00:03:51,140 --> 00:03:52,140 Probably so. 121 00:03:52,140 --> 00:03:53,140 Yeah. 122 00:03:53,140 --> 00:03:54,140 Well, yeah. 123 00:03:54,140 --> 00:03:57,820 So we were super happy for them and definitely a really exciting weekend for us. 124 00:03:57,820 --> 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Highly recommend. 164 00:05:31,300 --> 00:05:33,300 Thank you for your review. 165 00:05:33,300 --> 00:05:34,300 Absolutely. 166 00:05:34,300 --> 00:05:38,260 And is there anything else that you have? 167 00:05:38,260 --> 00:05:44,500 No, I'm just excited for, I guess just like, I don't know, personally, I'm excited for 168 00:05:44,500 --> 00:05:45,500 Pride Month. 169 00:05:45,500 --> 00:05:47,020 So that's gonna be this week. 170 00:05:47,020 --> 00:05:48,020 Yes. 171 00:05:48,020 --> 00:05:51,500 So we have part two of Elliot Roger coming out this week as well. 172 00:05:51,500 --> 00:05:52,900 So be prepared for that. 173 00:05:52,900 --> 00:05:55,620 And then also the True Crime Paranormal Podcast Festival. 174 00:05:55,620 --> 00:05:59,340 If this is your first time listening, we are being, we're going to be hosts at the festival 175 00:05:59,340 --> 00:06:01,660 in August and it's coming up really soon. 176 00:06:01,660 --> 00:06:06,540 So I recently got some information that 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00:06:33,540 We have never broken it down. 194 00:06:33,540 --> 00:06:37,100 So this week we are going to be talking about imposter syndrome. 195 00:06:37,100 --> 00:06:39,500 Oh, I'm so excited to learn about this. 196 00:06:39,500 --> 00:06:40,500 I really am. 197 00:06:40,500 --> 00:06:41,500 I definitely have it. 198 00:06:41,500 --> 00:06:42,500 Because we don't have it. 199 00:06:42,500 --> 00:06:43,500 A lot. 200 00:06:43,500 --> 00:06:44,500 Can relate. 201 00:06:44,500 --> 00:06:48,940 So yeah, imposter syndrome is something that I'm sure a lot of people have heard the term 202 00:06:48,940 --> 00:06:50,180 before. 203 00:06:50,180 --> 00:06:53,660 Kind of means exactly what it sounds like, but just to break it down a little bit further, 204 00:06:53,660 --> 00:06:56,060 because I did learn some stuff as well. 205 00:06:56,060 --> 00:06:59,300 The term imposter syndrome was actually first coined in 1978. 206 00:06:59,300 --> 00:07:00,540 Oh, okay. 207 00:07:00,540 --> 00:07:02,340 By two clinical psychologists. 208 00:07:02,340 --> 00:07:05,540 That is Pauline Rose Clance and Suzanne Ims. 209 00:07:05,540 --> 00:07:08,500 So 78, like 50 years ago. 210 00:07:08,500 --> 00:07:09,500 Not that long ago. 211 00:07:09,500 --> 00:07:10,500 That's wild. 212 00:07:10,500 --> 00:07:15,660 Imposter syndrome is a condition of feeling anxious and not experiencing success internally 213 00:07:15,660 --> 00:07:18,660 despite being high performing and external objective ways. 214 00:07:18,660 --> 00:07:19,660 Oh, okay. 215 00:07:19,660 --> 00:07:23,540 So someone that's really good at what they do but doesn't feel like they are. 216 00:07:23,540 --> 00:07:24,540 They're internal. 217 00:07:24,540 --> 00:07:28,980 Like they're not accomplishing anything the more they do, even if they're doing a great 218 00:07:28,980 --> 00:07:29,980 job. 219 00:07:29,980 --> 00:07:33,220 Like me, we have almost 20,000 downloads on the podcast and I'm like, no one listens 220 00:07:33,220 --> 00:07:34,220 to us. 221 00:07:34,220 --> 00:07:35,220 I'm dead ass. 222 00:07:35,220 --> 00:07:37,220 I'm not even kidding. 223 00:07:37,220 --> 00:07:38,220 It's just us. 224 00:07:38,220 --> 00:07:43,660 Also, if you were one of the two people that I met, Jonathan and Jennifer at the Hooks 225 00:07:43,660 --> 00:07:47,220 game this weekend and I just said dead ass, I hope you're laughing because I said that 226 00:07:47,220 --> 00:07:49,460 by accident when I was talking about something really stupid. 227 00:07:49,460 --> 00:07:51,140 I was like, oh yeah, dead ass. 228 00:07:51,140 --> 00:07:52,140 And they were like, okay. 229 00:07:52,140 --> 00:07:53,140 And then I started laughing. 230 00:07:53,140 --> 00:07:54,620 I was like, I'm so sorry. 231 00:07:54,620 --> 00:07:55,620 That was really inappropriate. 232 00:07:55,620 --> 00:07:56,620 And they both started cracking up. 233 00:07:56,620 --> 00:08:02,260 They were like, we weren't going to say anything but that was really inappropriate. 234 00:08:02,260 --> 00:08:03,260 Just uncensored. 235 00:08:03,260 --> 00:08:04,260 Yeah, no, seriously. 236 00:08:04,260 --> 00:08:07,140 Uncensored, DAK live out in the world. 237 00:08:07,140 --> 00:08:08,140 Honestly. 238 00:08:08,140 --> 00:08:11,660 That's definitely me feeling like I don't have any successes or like no progress is 239 00:08:11,660 --> 00:08:15,700 being made when in reality it is and everyone can see it but it's just not happening in 240 00:08:15,700 --> 00:08:16,700 my mind. 241 00:08:16,700 --> 00:08:17,700 I totally get that. 242 00:08:17,700 --> 00:08:18,700 Yeah. 243 00:08:18,700 --> 00:08:19,700 Yes. 244 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:22,540 This condition often results in people feeling like a fraud or a phony and doubting their 245 00:08:22,540 --> 00:08:23,540 abilities. 246 00:08:23,540 --> 00:08:24,540 You're a big fat phony. 247 00:08:24,540 --> 00:08:26,340 I love that word. 248 00:08:26,340 --> 00:08:29,580 This guy's a phony. 249 00:08:29,580 --> 00:08:33,740 Within posture syndrome, a person will not feel confident or even competent regardless 250 00:08:33,740 --> 00:08:35,100 of what they achieve. 251 00:08:35,100 --> 00:08:37,860 So not even like chill out with like what we're doing. 252 00:08:37,860 --> 00:08:40,460 Not even just, all right, that's worse for me. 253 00:08:40,460 --> 00:08:42,900 I'm just talking and talking. 254 00:08:42,900 --> 00:08:47,660 No, I totally get what you're saying though because I do, there's times where I'm hanging 255 00:08:47,660 --> 00:08:53,820 out with friends after a long day of doing a bunch of things and they'll say, so how 256 00:08:53,820 --> 00:08:54,820 was your day? 257 00:08:54,820 --> 00:08:55,820 I'll be like, it's all right. 258 00:08:55,820 --> 00:08:56,820 Yeah. 259 00:08:56,820 --> 00:08:57,820 That didn't do much. 260 00:08:57,820 --> 00:08:58,820 I didn't do much. 261 00:08:58,820 --> 00:09:01,180 I just did and then I'll just list off a bunch of things that I did. 262 00:09:01,180 --> 00:09:04,180 Like, well, it sounds like a pretty productive day and I'm like, whatever. 263 00:09:04,180 --> 00:09:05,180 Yeah. 264 00:09:05,180 --> 00:09:09,500 I'm like, you're going to fall into one of these categories here. 265 00:09:09,500 --> 00:09:14,340 So people with imposter syndrome will often not find joy in their successes because they're 266 00:09:14,340 --> 00:09:18,060 always waiting for their inadequacy and fraudulence to come to light. 267 00:09:18,060 --> 00:09:19,580 That's really sad. 268 00:09:19,580 --> 00:09:20,580 That's sad. 269 00:09:20,580 --> 00:09:21,580 I know. 270 00:09:21,580 --> 00:09:22,580 That's really sad. 271 00:09:22,580 --> 00:09:23,580 That's really sad. 272 00:09:23,580 --> 00:09:24,580 But I feel like that. 273 00:09:24,580 --> 00:09:25,580 That's sad for them. 274 00:09:25,580 --> 00:09:27,580 I don't feel bad for me. 275 00:09:27,580 --> 00:09:32,260 That's really sad for me. 276 00:09:32,260 --> 00:09:35,900 Although Clance and I'm originally defined in posture syndrome to describe a condition 277 00:09:35,900 --> 00:09:40,460 they observed in professional women, research actually shows that men and women alike can 278 00:09:40,460 --> 00:09:42,460 suffer from this syndrome. 279 00:09:42,460 --> 00:09:43,460 You know, it's like... 280 00:09:43,460 --> 00:09:44,460 It's not hysterical. 281 00:09:44,460 --> 00:09:46,260 Yeah, exactly. 282 00:09:46,260 --> 00:09:49,580 Imposter syndrome can also cause people to feel like their time is running out, so to 283 00:09:49,580 --> 00:09:50,580 speak. 284 00:09:50,580 --> 00:09:53,660 So they may feel like they've been putting on an act and they can't keep up appearance 285 00:09:53,660 --> 00:09:54,660 as much longer. 286 00:09:54,660 --> 00:09:55,660 Oh. 287 00:09:55,660 --> 00:09:56,660 Like, I'm pretending to be... 288 00:09:56,660 --> 00:09:57,660 I mean, that was literally me. 289 00:09:57,660 --> 00:09:58,660 It's literally me in every job. 290 00:09:58,660 --> 00:10:01,860 I'm like, oh yeah, I'm pretending like I'm really good at this job. 291 00:10:01,860 --> 00:10:03,860 Like, how long am I going to be able to pretend for it? 292 00:10:03,860 --> 00:10:05,860 But I'm actually really good at this job in real life. 293 00:10:05,860 --> 00:10:07,860 Well, they always say, like, fake it till you make it. 294 00:10:07,860 --> 00:10:09,860 And I never understood that. 295 00:10:09,860 --> 00:10:13,860 I'm like, no, I'm going to make it and then later I'm going to worry about faking it. 296 00:10:13,860 --> 00:10:14,860 Literally. 297 00:10:14,860 --> 00:10:16,860 I like the term fake it until you become it. 298 00:10:16,860 --> 00:10:17,860 Oh, that's cute. 299 00:10:17,860 --> 00:10:18,860 Right? 300 00:10:18,860 --> 00:10:19,860 Like, just work on it until you get there. 301 00:10:19,860 --> 00:10:20,860 Just work on it. 302 00:10:20,860 --> 00:10:21,860 Just work on it until you get there. 303 00:10:21,860 --> 00:10:22,860 You should just work on that. 304 00:10:22,860 --> 00:10:23,860 Just work on yourself. 305 00:10:23,860 --> 00:10:28,860 She's like, I'm trying to put this away quietly. 306 00:10:28,860 --> 00:10:30,860 It makes a bunch of noise. 307 00:10:30,860 --> 00:10:36,860 So, however, again, people feeling like they've been keeping up this act is all despite evidence to the contrary. 308 00:10:36,860 --> 00:10:40,860 Like, they were actually doing a really good job and everyone else recognizes it except for them. 309 00:10:40,860 --> 00:10:46,860 This can also cause people with imposter syndrome to feel as though they cannot keep reaching new levels in their career 310 00:10:46,860 --> 00:10:49,860 and feel as though they're unable to like keep climbing. 311 00:10:49,860 --> 00:10:57,860 Does that include like, because I know that I've been one of those people that I feel like if there's just like, if I've been capped, 312 00:10:57,860 --> 00:11:00,860 then I just, I won't stick with the job. 313 00:11:00,860 --> 00:11:04,860 I'll be like, oh, okay, well, I tried out for that, you know, I applied to that. 314 00:11:04,860 --> 00:11:05,860 I interviewed for it. 315 00:11:05,860 --> 00:11:06,860 I didn't get it. 316 00:11:06,860 --> 00:11:07,860 My time here is now limited. 317 00:11:07,860 --> 00:11:11,860 Like, I'm not going to stick around if I'm like not recognized. 318 00:11:11,860 --> 00:11:13,860 I don't think that's imposter syndrome. 319 00:11:13,860 --> 00:11:15,860 I think that's life and I think that's correct. 320 00:11:15,860 --> 00:11:16,860 I would do that too. 321 00:11:16,860 --> 00:11:17,860 Yeah. 322 00:11:17,860 --> 00:11:22,860 But I'll let you be the judge once I get through the, because there's a couple different types that we'll talk about. 323 00:11:22,860 --> 00:11:28,860 But it's almost like, and again, imposter syndrome is actually supposed to be like more career given. 324 00:11:28,860 --> 00:11:33,860 Like it's usually mostly happening in someone's career when they have, you know, we're pursuing a career, 325 00:11:33,860 --> 00:11:35,860 but it can happen in any instance in life. 326 00:11:35,860 --> 00:11:36,860 Yeah. 327 00:11:36,860 --> 00:11:39,860 Like, you know, not feeling like an adequate mom, maybe. 328 00:11:39,860 --> 00:11:40,860 Yeah, exactly. 329 00:11:40,860 --> 00:11:47,860 Or partner or partner or even in school, like not really like an adequate student or like a doggy parent. 330 00:11:47,860 --> 00:11:48,860 Yeah. 331 00:11:48,860 --> 00:11:49,860 Or, you know, a cat mom. 332 00:11:49,860 --> 00:11:51,860 Yeah, same. 333 00:11:51,860 --> 00:11:53,860 And also a regular mom though too. 334 00:11:53,860 --> 00:11:54,860 Not like a regular mom. 335 00:11:54,860 --> 00:11:55,860 I'm a cool mom. 336 00:11:55,860 --> 00:11:57,860 I was going to say you're not a regular mom. 337 00:11:57,860 --> 00:11:58,860 You're a cool mom. 338 00:11:58,860 --> 00:11:59,860 Thanks. 339 00:11:59,860 --> 00:12:04,860 It is often that people with this syndrome feel as though they can't keep going at the same rate they have been 340 00:12:04,860 --> 00:12:07,860 and feeling shameful as a result. 341 00:12:07,860 --> 00:12:08,860 I know it's really sad. 342 00:12:08,860 --> 00:12:15,860 So if you work yourself up in this like kind of frenzy, you work and you work and you put more on your plate like you. 343 00:12:15,860 --> 00:12:16,860 And... 344 00:12:16,860 --> 00:12:17,860 Damn. 345 00:12:17,860 --> 00:12:18,860 Ouch. 346 00:12:18,860 --> 00:12:22,860 You do all this because you're trying to like feel that sense of achievement. 347 00:12:22,860 --> 00:12:27,860 But then if you go at that pace for so long, you're going to fucking burn out, right? 348 00:12:27,860 --> 00:12:28,860 Yeah, definitely. 349 00:12:28,860 --> 00:12:29,860 And again, there's different types. 350 00:12:29,860 --> 00:12:31,860 I'm pretty sure I have like two of them. 351 00:12:31,860 --> 00:12:33,860 Sounds like that sounds like you. 352 00:12:33,860 --> 00:12:34,860 Yeah. 353 00:12:34,860 --> 00:12:38,860 So this shame that people feel ultimately makes them suffer alone and in silence. 354 00:12:38,860 --> 00:12:44,860 In fact, people don't realize how many other people suffer from imposter syndrome as nobody usually wants to admit it out loud. 355 00:12:44,860 --> 00:12:45,860 Yeah. 356 00:12:45,860 --> 00:12:46,860 I'm the opposite. 357 00:12:46,860 --> 00:12:47,860 I'm like, wait me. 358 00:12:47,860 --> 00:12:49,860 Help me. 359 00:12:49,860 --> 00:12:51,860 Help. 360 00:12:51,860 --> 00:12:59,860 Do you think that some people feel like they don't recognize at the moment that they're experiencing that maybe as well? 361 00:12:59,860 --> 00:13:00,860 Is that why people don't mention it? 362 00:13:00,860 --> 00:13:01,860 Yeah. 363 00:13:01,860 --> 00:13:02,860 Oh, absolutely. 364 00:13:02,860 --> 00:13:03,860 Yeah. 365 00:13:03,860 --> 00:13:04,860 Absolutely. 366 00:13:04,860 --> 00:13:07,860 And if they do, they probably don't want to be like, hey, so I feel like I'm not really achieving enough here. 367 00:13:07,860 --> 00:13:09,860 Like you're not going to go to your boss and say that, right? 368 00:13:09,860 --> 00:13:10,860 Yeah, right. 369 00:13:10,860 --> 00:13:12,860 I was like, okay, well then fire me. 370 00:13:12,860 --> 00:13:13,860 Can you fire me please? 371 00:13:13,860 --> 00:13:14,860 Yeah. 372 00:13:14,860 --> 00:13:19,860 So the imposter feelings represent a conflict between one's own self perception and the way that other people perceive them. 373 00:13:19,860 --> 00:13:26,860 So just like you said, even while others praise one's talents, they write off their own successes to timing and good luck. 374 00:13:26,860 --> 00:13:29,860 So they're not successful because they're good at what they're doing. 375 00:13:29,860 --> 00:13:33,860 They just got lucky or it was just good timing for them when they came into the business. 376 00:13:33,860 --> 00:13:34,860 Dang. 377 00:13:34,860 --> 00:13:41,860 People struggling with imposter syndrome may pressure themselves to work harder in order to become worthy of the roles they don't believe they deserve. 378 00:13:41,860 --> 00:13:44,860 To make up for what they consider their lack of intelligence. 379 00:13:44,860 --> 00:13:50,860 To ease feelings of guilt over tricking people and or to help others from recognizing their shortcomings. 380 00:13:50,860 --> 00:13:52,860 It's like the opposite of a narcissist. 381 00:13:52,860 --> 00:13:53,860 Yeah, it really is. 382 00:13:53,860 --> 00:13:55,860 Yeah, that's very interesting. 383 00:13:55,860 --> 00:13:59,860 Sometimes having recognition given to people is considered pity or sympathy. 384 00:13:59,860 --> 00:14:05,860 So if you're recognizing me at work, it's because you think I'm doing an okay job, but you want to make me feel better about it. 385 00:14:05,860 --> 00:14:07,860 Or you're just trying to encourage me. 386 00:14:07,860 --> 00:14:10,860 Like I'm trying to encourage you in order for you to do better. 387 00:14:10,860 --> 00:14:14,860 And despite one's successes, they will stir over the minor errors. 388 00:14:14,860 --> 00:14:18,860 So they can do a project like completely correct, but maybe they slept in one day. 389 00:14:18,860 --> 00:14:19,860 They're going to stir over that. 390 00:14:19,860 --> 00:14:22,860 They slept in one day, even though the project was perfect. 391 00:14:22,860 --> 00:14:23,860 Otherwise. 392 00:14:23,860 --> 00:14:25,860 Frankie, was I like that? 393 00:14:25,860 --> 00:14:28,860 You've been my boss, Frankie, so you can tell me to be honest. 394 00:14:28,860 --> 00:14:29,860 If I sound like this. 395 00:14:29,860 --> 00:14:30,860 Shout out Frankie. 396 00:14:30,860 --> 00:14:32,860 She's been talking about TWICE in this episode. 397 00:14:32,860 --> 00:14:33,860 She's so famous. 398 00:14:33,860 --> 00:14:35,860 She's elusive. 399 00:14:35,860 --> 00:14:40,860 So over time, imposter syndrome can fuel a cycle of anxiety, depression, and guilt. 400 00:14:40,860 --> 00:14:47,860 Now before I get into how to combat imposter syndrome, we're going to talk about, like I said, the five types of imposter syndrome. 401 00:14:47,860 --> 00:14:48,860 Oh my goodness. 402 00:14:48,860 --> 00:14:50,860 So this first one is me. 403 00:14:50,860 --> 00:14:51,860 And probably you. 404 00:14:51,860 --> 00:14:53,860 It's just Kenna in parentheses. 405 00:14:53,860 --> 00:14:55,860 Yeah, it's called the perfectionist. 406 00:14:55,860 --> 00:14:56,860 Oh, yay. 407 00:14:56,860 --> 00:15:00,860 This particular person would focus on how something is done. 408 00:15:00,860 --> 00:15:03,860 This includes how the work is conducted and how it turns out. 409 00:15:03,860 --> 00:15:09,860 One minor flaw in an otherwise stellar performance equals failure, and therefore shame. 410 00:15:09,860 --> 00:15:16,860 Whether they realize it or not, people with the perfectionism type of imposter syndrome may be perceived as control freaks. 411 00:15:16,860 --> 00:15:17,860 Yeah. 412 00:15:17,860 --> 00:15:18,860 Cute. 413 00:15:18,860 --> 00:15:25,860 They will set up very high goals for themselves, and when they fail to reach a goal, they will experience major self-doubt and worry about measuring up. 414 00:15:25,860 --> 00:15:28,860 Really high goals is me. 415 00:15:28,860 --> 00:15:33,860 I'm like, I want to have $10,000 by the end of the day. 416 00:15:33,860 --> 00:15:34,860 It doesn't happen. 417 00:15:34,860 --> 00:15:36,860 I'm like, you're a fucking failure. 418 00:15:36,860 --> 00:15:37,860 You're a fucking failure. 419 00:15:37,860 --> 00:15:38,860 God. 420 00:15:38,860 --> 00:15:40,860 Some questions to ask yourself. 421 00:15:40,860 --> 00:15:42,860 If you think this may apply to you. 422 00:15:42,860 --> 00:15:43,860 Oh, great. 423 00:15:43,860 --> 00:15:44,860 You want to answer them? 424 00:15:44,860 --> 00:15:45,860 Yeah. 425 00:15:45,860 --> 00:15:46,860 Have you ever been accused of micromanaging? 426 00:15:46,860 --> 00:15:47,860 Yes. 427 00:15:47,860 --> 00:15:48,860 Same. 428 00:15:48,860 --> 00:15:50,860 Do you have great difficulty delegating? 429 00:15:50,860 --> 00:15:52,860 Yeah, actually. 430 00:15:52,860 --> 00:15:58,860 If you are able to delegate, do you often feel frustrated and or disappointed with the results? 431 00:15:58,860 --> 00:15:59,860 It's so true. 432 00:15:59,860 --> 00:16:03,860 I'm like, I mean, I guess you could do this. 433 00:16:03,860 --> 00:16:08,860 It would take something off my plate, but if you're going to do it, I want you to do it this way. 434 00:16:08,860 --> 00:16:14,860 And then when you come back with, yeah, exactly, total anxiety, because I'm like, this is not going to be the way that I wanted to do it. 435 00:16:14,860 --> 00:16:16,860 The way that I would expect it to be done. 436 00:16:16,860 --> 00:16:17,860 Sure. 437 00:16:17,860 --> 00:16:21,860 Can you hang up that poster that I stay there the whole time and watch the game? 438 00:16:21,860 --> 00:16:22,860 Yeah. 439 00:16:22,860 --> 00:16:27,860 That'd be me just like looking over every five seconds to make sure that the work that they're doing is exactly the way that I would do it. 440 00:16:27,860 --> 00:16:29,860 It doesn't really take time away from you. 441 00:16:29,860 --> 00:16:30,860 It really doesn't. 442 00:16:30,860 --> 00:16:31,860 It doesn't help at all. 443 00:16:31,860 --> 00:16:32,860 It's not helpful. 444 00:16:32,860 --> 00:16:42,860 Because then the way that I see it is that if I know that, because what I am good at is time management when it comes to, well, mostly, I will say mostly. 445 00:16:42,860 --> 00:16:44,860 If I put too much on my plate, then no. 446 00:16:44,860 --> 00:16:47,860 But I'm pretty good at time management when it comes to multitaskings or anything. 447 00:16:47,860 --> 00:16:56,860 So if I am still trusting someone that they're going to take care of that one thing and it's not done right the first time, I'm going to have to go back and redo it. 448 00:16:56,860 --> 00:16:57,860 Yeah. 449 00:16:57,860 --> 00:16:59,860 And I didn't put that as part of my time management. 450 00:16:59,860 --> 00:17:00,860 And my plans. 451 00:17:00,860 --> 00:17:01,860 And my plans, right? 452 00:17:01,860 --> 00:17:02,860 Okay, yeah. 453 00:17:02,860 --> 00:17:03,860 That sounds like a control freak, doesn't it? 454 00:17:03,860 --> 00:17:04,860 Yeah. 455 00:17:04,860 --> 00:17:07,860 I have a habit of telling someone to do something and then just immediately saying, never mind, never mind. 456 00:17:07,860 --> 00:17:08,860 And then just doing it. 457 00:17:08,860 --> 00:17:10,860 I'm like, can you grab me that? 458 00:17:10,860 --> 00:17:11,860 Never mind. 459 00:17:11,860 --> 00:17:12,860 I got it. 460 00:17:12,860 --> 00:17:13,860 I got it. 461 00:17:13,860 --> 00:17:20,860 When you miss the insanely high mark on something, do you accuse yourself of just not being cut out for it? 462 00:17:20,860 --> 00:17:21,860 Well, I'm perfect. 463 00:17:21,860 --> 00:17:22,860 So not really. 464 00:17:22,860 --> 00:17:23,860 I would say no. 465 00:17:23,860 --> 00:17:24,860 I would say I do. 466 00:17:24,860 --> 00:17:27,860 Like I want to do something right and I want to do it right the first time. 467 00:17:27,860 --> 00:17:28,860 Yeah. 468 00:17:28,860 --> 00:17:31,860 And if I don't do it right the first time, I get like really, I'm like, maybe this just isn't for me. 469 00:17:31,860 --> 00:17:32,860 Right. 470 00:17:32,860 --> 00:17:33,860 You know. 471 00:17:33,860 --> 00:17:34,860 That's true. 472 00:17:34,860 --> 00:17:35,860 I could see that. 473 00:17:35,860 --> 00:17:36,860 I could see myself saying that. 474 00:17:36,860 --> 00:17:37,860 But I wouldn't be harsh on myself. 475 00:17:37,860 --> 00:17:38,860 Yeah. 476 00:17:38,860 --> 00:17:40,860 And lastly, do you feel like your work must be 100% perfect 100% of the time? 477 00:17:40,860 --> 00:17:41,860 Yeah. 478 00:17:41,860 --> 00:17:42,860 Yeah, same. 479 00:17:42,860 --> 00:17:53,860 I mean, we do that on the podcast sometimes where we're like, you know, we tend to maybe rush a little bit of research and we're like, I mean, I've definitely done that where I needed something done. 480 00:17:53,860 --> 00:18:03,860 And I, you know, I skipped a few steps or didn't mention certain things or whatever, which is where I appreciate the listeners saying, you forgot to talk about that. 481 00:18:03,860 --> 00:18:04,860 Yeah. 482 00:18:04,860 --> 00:18:05,860 Because then we'll talk about it next time. 483 00:18:05,860 --> 00:18:06,860 Exactly. 484 00:18:06,860 --> 00:18:09,860 Sometimes I leave it out on purpose just for brevity's sake, right? 485 00:18:09,860 --> 00:18:15,860 Then I feel so guilty after recording because I'm like, I could have delivered that information right the first time. 486 00:18:15,860 --> 00:18:16,860 Yeah. 487 00:18:16,860 --> 00:18:18,860 You know, I feel the exact same way. 488 00:18:18,860 --> 00:18:24,860 And honestly, like if I don't mention like someone's brother's sister's cousin's aunt's child, I'm like, damn, I left something out of the research. 489 00:18:24,860 --> 00:18:25,860 Damn, I left it out. 490 00:18:25,860 --> 00:18:29,860 But then again, I don't want to put all of that in there because no one wants to listen to more than two parts of an episode. 491 00:18:29,860 --> 00:18:30,860 It's true. 492 00:18:30,860 --> 00:18:31,860 Yeah. 493 00:18:31,860 --> 00:18:32,860 Nobody ever. 494 00:18:32,860 --> 00:18:33,860 Wow. 495 00:18:33,860 --> 00:18:34,860 Wow. 496 00:18:34,860 --> 00:18:40,860 Tell us how you really feel. 497 00:18:40,860 --> 00:18:44,860 You already know that craft beers have been exploding in popularity over the past decade. 498 00:18:44,860 --> 00:18:50,860 But what you might not know is that there are thousands of awesome craft beers being produced by these new micro 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episode. 509 00:19:30,860 --> 00:19:35,860 So I want to put all of the info in there all the time, which is like this imposter syndrome. 510 00:19:35,860 --> 00:19:37,860 And I feel really guilty when I don't. 511 00:19:37,860 --> 00:19:38,860 I'll just leave it at that. 512 00:19:38,860 --> 00:19:39,860 Yeah. 513 00:19:39,860 --> 00:19:40,860 Elliot Rogers has been my... 514 00:19:40,860 --> 00:19:46,860 It's been very relieving and very rewarding to be able to cover a lot of him. 515 00:19:46,860 --> 00:19:56,860 And I do feel like a lot of, I don't know, I guess gratification from doing two parts sometimes because we do get to get all that information out. 516 00:19:56,860 --> 00:20:00,860 But yeah, five parts, that's too much. 517 00:20:00,860 --> 00:20:04,860 I do see podcasts that have like four or five part episodes. 518 00:20:04,860 --> 00:20:05,860 Yeah. 519 00:20:05,860 --> 00:20:06,860 That's so much. 520 00:20:06,860 --> 00:20:08,860 And then could you imagine having to wait every week? 521 00:20:08,860 --> 00:20:09,860 And editing all that? 522 00:20:09,860 --> 00:20:10,860 Come on, that's a lot of work. 523 00:20:10,860 --> 00:20:11,860 Yeah. 524 00:20:11,860 --> 00:20:12,860 That's ridiculous. 525 00:20:12,860 --> 00:20:17,860 But to each his own, honestly, if you guys like two-parters or one single part or three, let us know. 526 00:20:17,860 --> 00:20:21,860 Honestly, I'm happy to do whatever you guys are interested in hearing. 527 00:20:21,860 --> 00:20:22,860 Yeah. 528 00:20:22,860 --> 00:20:24,860 If you like the suspense of a two-parter, we can do more. 529 00:20:24,860 --> 00:20:27,860 We used to do them like, you know, every so often and we haven't done them in a while. 530 00:20:27,860 --> 00:20:34,860 We actually got someone commenting on the first part of Elliot Rogers Instagram post and said, like, can you please hurry up and rush out part two? 531 00:20:34,860 --> 00:20:35,860 And I was like, yes. 532 00:20:35,860 --> 00:20:36,860 I'm excited. 533 00:20:36,860 --> 00:20:37,860 I'm excited. 534 00:20:37,860 --> 00:20:38,860 So part two will be coming out very soon. 535 00:20:38,860 --> 00:20:40,860 It's a good one. 536 00:20:40,860 --> 00:20:48,860 So for this type, so again, the perfectionist type of imposter syndrome, success is rarely satisfying because they will often believe they could have done better. 537 00:20:48,860 --> 00:20:49,860 Yeah. 538 00:20:49,860 --> 00:20:52,860 And I feel like I heard that recently somewhere. 539 00:20:52,860 --> 00:20:57,860 If it was you, you were like, I'm happy that I did it, but I feel like I could have done it better. 540 00:20:57,860 --> 00:21:00,860 If it wasn't you, someone said that to me recently. 541 00:21:00,860 --> 00:21:01,860 I don't even know what it was about. 542 00:21:01,860 --> 00:21:05,860 I basically just said that, but I said a lot of other things. 543 00:21:05,860 --> 00:21:09,860 Owning and celebrating achievements is essential. 544 00:21:09,860 --> 00:21:23,860 Small, small, small. 545 00:21:23,860 --> 00:21:28,860 You guys just heard one of the only birds I've ever had in my entire life. 546 00:21:28,860 --> 00:21:29,860 I have to leave that in. 547 00:21:29,860 --> 00:21:30,860 I never burped. 548 00:21:30,860 --> 00:21:31,860 I can't. 549 00:21:31,860 --> 00:21:35,860 I was drinking water when it happened and I couldn't. 550 00:21:35,860 --> 00:21:36,860 I was going to spit it out. 551 00:21:36,860 --> 00:21:37,860 Okay. 552 00:21:37,860 --> 00:21:38,860 We have to pause. 553 00:21:38,860 --> 00:21:39,860 Okay. 554 00:21:39,860 --> 00:21:40,860 We're totally leaving that in. 555 00:21:40,860 --> 00:21:41,860 I'm crying. 556 00:21:41,860 --> 00:21:42,860 Sorry, y'all. 557 00:21:42,860 --> 00:21:44,860 That was probably a lot of like really loud noises. 558 00:21:44,860 --> 00:21:46,860 You couldn't do anything. 559 00:21:46,860 --> 00:21:50,860 She's just grasping for all of the clothing around her. 560 00:21:50,860 --> 00:21:52,860 Trying to hold onto something. 561 00:21:52,860 --> 00:21:55,860 Just spew water all over the microphone. 562 00:21:55,860 --> 00:22:04,860 So what I was saying is that owning and celebrating achievement is essential no matter how small in order to avoid burnout. 563 00:22:04,860 --> 00:22:05,860 Okay. 564 00:22:05,860 --> 00:22:09,860 So that's one way to combat if you're experiencing the perfectionist type of imposter syndrome. 565 00:22:09,860 --> 00:22:12,860 Remain mindful about the achievements that you have throughout your day. 566 00:22:12,860 --> 00:22:13,860 Yeah. 567 00:22:13,860 --> 00:22:14,860 And celebrate the little things. 568 00:22:14,860 --> 00:22:17,860 Honestly, you know, it sounds really cliche, but I celebrate the little things. 569 00:22:17,860 --> 00:22:19,860 If I go all day without crying, bam, celebration. 570 00:22:19,860 --> 00:22:20,860 I don't. 571 00:22:20,860 --> 00:22:26,860 I better find gold bars while I'm like walking down the street downtown or else my day is ruined. 572 00:22:26,860 --> 00:22:28,860 I'm still crying. 573 00:22:28,860 --> 00:22:33,860 So the next type of imposter syndrome is the superwoman or superman type. 574 00:22:33,860 --> 00:22:40,860 People who experience this type of imposter syndrome typically are convinced that they are phonies among their real deal coworkers. 575 00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:41,860 They're like Clark Kent's. 576 00:22:41,860 --> 00:22:45,860 Well, yeah, it's almost like, okay, all these people actually know how to do their job. 577 00:22:45,860 --> 00:22:46,860 I'm the phony. 578 00:22:46,860 --> 00:22:49,860 Even though they're doing the same job as everyone else. 579 00:22:49,860 --> 00:22:59,860 They will often push themselves harder to measure up, but this is usually a false cover up for their insecurities and the work overload usually results in harming their mental health and their relationship with others. 580 00:22:59,860 --> 00:23:00,860 Aww. 581 00:23:00,860 --> 00:23:03,860 So you said like take everything on your plate at once. 582 00:23:03,860 --> 00:23:05,860 This is why I think that I'm also kind of like this. 583 00:23:05,860 --> 00:23:08,860 So questions to ask if you think you're dealing with this type. 584 00:23:08,860 --> 00:23:09,860 Are you ready? 585 00:23:09,860 --> 00:23:10,860 Yeah. 586 00:23:10,860 --> 00:23:16,860 Do you stay later at the office and the rest of your team even past the point that you've completed that day's necessary work? 587 00:23:16,860 --> 00:23:17,860 No. 588 00:23:17,860 --> 00:23:18,860 Me neither. 589 00:23:18,860 --> 00:23:23,860 Do you get stressed when you're not working and find downtime completely wasteful? 590 00:23:23,860 --> 00:23:24,860 It depends on the day. 591 00:23:24,860 --> 00:23:29,860 I think so too, because today I took a day off work and I felt so guilty all day. 592 00:23:29,860 --> 00:23:34,860 Even though I was exhausted and today was my rest day, I still felt so guilty that I wasn't working. 593 00:23:34,860 --> 00:23:44,860 I mean, I think it's ebb and flow, especially for like a service, you know, position or retail is, you know, something that I did for a long time. 594 00:23:44,860 --> 00:23:53,860 And I think it was, yeah, like we fucked off sometimes, you know, we did leave work for the next day sometimes. 595 00:23:53,860 --> 00:24:00,860 But, you know, if we can get it done and then fuck off afterwards, that's kind of always been my kind of go to attitude. 596 00:24:00,860 --> 00:24:04,860 Have you ever let your hobbies and passions fall short in order to focus on your work? 597 00:24:04,860 --> 00:24:05,860 Yes. 598 00:24:05,860 --> 00:24:06,860 Me too. 599 00:24:06,860 --> 00:24:11,860 Do you feel like you haven't truly earned your title in your career or perhaps school title or something? 600 00:24:11,860 --> 00:24:13,860 No, I want more titles. 601 00:24:13,860 --> 00:24:14,860 Yeah. 602 00:24:14,860 --> 00:24:18,860 Well, like if, like if, if and when you do achieve a title, do you feel like you haven't fully earned it? 603 00:24:18,860 --> 00:24:20,860 I guess is what it really means. 604 00:24:20,860 --> 00:24:22,860 No, I own every single title that I've ever gotten. 605 00:24:22,860 --> 00:24:30,860 Same. I think so too. Like I, well, I don't know, because when I got my diploma, like my bachelor's degree, I was like, damn, I can't believe I actually got this. 606 00:24:30,860 --> 00:24:32,860 Like, I don't think I deserve it. 607 00:24:32,860 --> 00:24:37,860 Like dead ass. I was like, I got D's like in a bunch of courses and I still have a degree. 608 00:24:37,860 --> 00:24:38,860 Like that doesn't make sense. 609 00:24:38,860 --> 00:24:39,860 So I guess D's get degrees. 610 00:24:39,860 --> 00:24:42,860 No, I feel like I've always wanted more of a title. 611 00:24:42,860 --> 00:24:43,860 Give me more. Give me more. 612 00:24:43,860 --> 00:24:45,860 So those are the questions for that one. 613 00:24:45,860 --> 00:24:50,860 Imposter workaholics are usually addicted to the validation that comes from working and not the actual work itself. 614 00:24:50,860 --> 00:24:51,860 Yes. 615 00:24:51,860 --> 00:24:53,860 And that's the difference in me. I don't feel that way. 616 00:24:53,860 --> 00:25:00,860 Like these people will frequently work themselves so much in order to get satisfaction and recognition from others that they're working so much. 617 00:25:00,860 --> 00:25:02,860 Oh my God, you work so much. You work so hard. 618 00:25:02,860 --> 00:25:04,860 No, for me, it's more of a personal thing. 619 00:25:04,860 --> 00:25:05,860 Things like that. 620 00:25:05,860 --> 00:25:06,860 It's a personal thing. 621 00:25:06,860 --> 00:25:08,860 Yeah, same. It's much more of a personal thing for me. 622 00:25:08,860 --> 00:25:11,860 It's almost, well, I, one of my love languages is words of affirmation. 623 00:25:11,860 --> 00:25:12,860 So when I hear that, it makes me feel nice. 624 00:25:12,860 --> 00:25:13,860 Yeah. 625 00:25:13,860 --> 00:25:15,860 You feel like I'm doing something right, but it's really more for me. 626 00:25:15,860 --> 00:25:16,860 It's not for other people. 627 00:25:16,860 --> 00:25:17,860 I completely agree. 628 00:25:17,860 --> 00:25:19,860 And I know people that work themselves. 629 00:25:19,860 --> 00:25:21,860 They don't work themselves to the bone. 630 00:25:21,860 --> 00:25:23,860 They just work a lot of hours and then they brag about it. 631 00:25:23,860 --> 00:25:28,860 And almost like we said, wanting people to recognize like, oh, you're such a hard worker, you know, or you work so much. 632 00:25:28,860 --> 00:25:29,860 When do you ever get a day off? 633 00:25:29,860 --> 00:25:30,860 Yeah. 634 00:25:30,860 --> 00:25:32,860 And they're like, oh, you know, I just work so hard. 635 00:25:32,860 --> 00:25:33,860 I know people like that. 636 00:25:33,860 --> 00:25:34,860 Yeah. 637 00:25:34,860 --> 00:25:35,860 And you know what, if it works for you, it works for you. 638 00:25:35,860 --> 00:25:36,860 Right. 639 00:25:36,860 --> 00:25:37,860 But what intended works. 640 00:25:37,860 --> 00:25:43,860 So one way to combat this type of imposter syndrome is to try to veer yourself away from external validation. 641 00:25:43,860 --> 00:25:44,860 Okay. 642 00:25:44,860 --> 00:25:48,860 Learning to take constructive criticism seriously and not personally is another great way to combat it. 643 00:25:48,860 --> 00:25:49,860 Oh. 644 00:25:49,860 --> 00:25:51,860 The third type is the natural genius. 645 00:25:51,860 --> 00:25:52,860 Okay. 646 00:25:52,860 --> 00:25:57,860 This type of imposter syndrome tends to apply to people who grew up with many things that came easily to them. 647 00:25:57,860 --> 00:26:00,860 They usually excelled at anything they attempted growing up. 648 00:26:00,860 --> 00:26:05,860 And when they were finally faced with a task that was not extremely easy for them, they feel shame. 649 00:26:05,860 --> 00:26:12,860 These types of imposters set their internal bar impossibly high and they judge themselves based on getting things right on the first try. 650 00:26:12,860 --> 00:26:13,860 You're smiling. 651 00:26:13,860 --> 00:26:15,860 Do you know people like that? 652 00:26:15,860 --> 00:26:16,860 Mm-hmm. 653 00:26:16,860 --> 00:26:17,860 Okay. 654 00:26:17,860 --> 00:26:20,860 What is that from? 655 00:26:20,860 --> 00:26:22,860 Someone like... 656 00:26:22,860 --> 00:26:25,860 I don't know. 657 00:26:25,860 --> 00:26:27,860 I don't know. 658 00:26:27,860 --> 00:26:32,860 Oh, it's the Empress New Groove when he has the menu over his face. 659 00:26:32,860 --> 00:26:36,860 He's like, we can get all of an onion log. 660 00:26:36,860 --> 00:26:37,860 Yeah. 661 00:26:37,860 --> 00:26:38,860 And an onion log. 662 00:26:38,860 --> 00:26:39,860 To split. 663 00:26:39,860 --> 00:26:40,860 To split. 664 00:26:40,860 --> 00:26:41,860 To split. 665 00:26:41,860 --> 00:26:42,860 Oh, God. 666 00:26:42,860 --> 00:26:47,860 We are veering off the path so much on this one. 667 00:26:47,860 --> 00:26:48,860 It's fine though. 668 00:26:48,860 --> 00:26:51,860 This is what the mental breakdowns are for, to break something down but also like... 669 00:26:51,860 --> 00:26:53,860 Yeah, we had to keep it light. 670 00:26:53,860 --> 00:27:00,860 So when this type of imposter syndrome, people that experience it are not able to do something quickly or fluently, their alarm sounds, so to speak. 671 00:27:00,860 --> 00:27:02,860 Ready for the questions? 672 00:27:02,860 --> 00:27:03,860 Yes. 673 00:27:03,860 --> 00:27:05,860 Are you used to excelling without much effort? 674 00:27:05,860 --> 00:27:06,860 No. 675 00:27:06,860 --> 00:27:07,860 Me neither. 676 00:27:07,860 --> 00:27:11,860 Were you told frequently as a child that you were the smart one on your family? 677 00:27:11,860 --> 00:27:19,860 I feel like mom and dad were really good about reminding us that we are bright kids or intelligent kids. 678 00:27:19,860 --> 00:27:21,860 But I don't think it was out of control. 679 00:27:21,860 --> 00:27:22,860 But they did it to all of us. 680 00:27:22,860 --> 00:27:23,860 It wasn't just you. 681 00:27:23,860 --> 00:27:24,860 Right. 682 00:27:24,860 --> 00:27:25,860 Like, oh, you're much smarter than your sisters. 683 00:27:25,860 --> 00:27:26,860 Yeah. 684 00:27:26,860 --> 00:27:27,860 No, absolutely not. 685 00:27:27,860 --> 00:27:32,860 Do you dislike the idea of having a mentor because you can handle things on your own? 686 00:27:32,860 --> 00:27:33,860 No. 687 00:27:33,860 --> 00:27:34,860 I feel like... 688 00:27:34,860 --> 00:27:38,860 No, I feel like I've definitely been in especially work positions where I feel like I could learn from somebody else for sure. 689 00:27:38,860 --> 00:27:39,860 Same. 690 00:27:39,860 --> 00:27:43,860 Do you often avoid challenges because it's uncomfortable by trying something that you're not great at? 691 00:27:43,860 --> 00:27:44,860 Yes. 692 00:27:44,860 --> 00:27:45,860 I don't. 693 00:27:45,860 --> 00:27:47,860 Well, that's kind of that perfectionism. 694 00:27:47,860 --> 00:27:49,860 It's like, you know, to be afraid to fail. 695 00:27:49,860 --> 00:27:55,860 I feel like that's something that I used to feel when I was much younger, but I'm not afraid to fail anymore. 696 00:27:55,860 --> 00:28:00,860 Especially when it comes to something like work. 697 00:28:00,860 --> 00:28:01,860 I'll try it out. 698 00:28:01,860 --> 00:28:04,860 And again, much like we said earlier, I'll try it out. 699 00:28:04,860 --> 00:28:08,860 And if I don't like to do it or if it's not something that I feel like I'm good at, then I might not do it again. 700 00:28:08,860 --> 00:28:12,860 But I'm not afraid to just try something and fail anymore. 701 00:28:12,860 --> 00:28:15,860 I feel like I've really pushed past that feeling. 702 00:28:15,860 --> 00:28:20,860 Like I will not want to try something, but then I'll push past that feeling to try it. 703 00:28:20,860 --> 00:28:21,860 And same thing with you. 704 00:28:21,860 --> 00:28:23,860 If I don't care for it after that, then I won't do it. 705 00:28:23,860 --> 00:28:27,860 But I'm better about taking the risk now than I used to be. 706 00:28:27,860 --> 00:28:31,860 So ways to combat feelings of this type of imposter syndrome. 707 00:28:31,860 --> 00:28:34,860 It's good to start looking at yourself as a work in progress. 708 00:28:34,860 --> 00:28:38,860 So kind of reminding yourself that you don't have to be great at everything right off the bat. 709 00:28:38,860 --> 00:28:42,860 It will take time to master new tasks if you need to try something new. 710 00:28:42,860 --> 00:28:45,860 And rather than beating yourself up when you don't reach your high standards, 711 00:28:45,860 --> 00:28:49,860 identify specific changeable behaviors that you can improve over time. 712 00:28:49,860 --> 00:28:50,860 Okay. 713 00:28:50,860 --> 00:28:54,860 So identify things that you know that, not know that, but things that you feel like you can improve, 714 00:28:54,860 --> 00:28:57,860 not necessarily focusing on things that you can't handle. 715 00:28:57,860 --> 00:28:58,860 Yeah, exactly. 716 00:28:58,860 --> 00:29:00,860 I'm sorry, not handle, not control. 717 00:29:00,860 --> 00:29:01,860 Yes. 718 00:29:01,860 --> 00:29:04,860 So our niece was saying, you know, I'm just so bad at math. I'm so bad at math. 719 00:29:04,860 --> 00:29:07,860 And I told her, I said, you're not, don't say that you're bad at math. 720 00:29:07,860 --> 00:29:11,860 Try to say you're working on getting better at math instead of just saying, nope, I'm not good at it. 721 00:29:11,860 --> 00:29:13,860 You know, because you're not good at everything the first time around. 722 00:29:13,860 --> 00:29:14,860 You know, might take some effort. 723 00:29:14,860 --> 00:29:16,860 I mean, we weren't fucking great at the podcast. 724 00:29:16,860 --> 00:29:18,860 The very first go episodes. 725 00:29:18,860 --> 00:29:21,860 And I'm sure that you guys noticed our improvement. 726 00:29:21,860 --> 00:29:23,860 If you did, let us know. 727 00:29:23,860 --> 00:29:26,860 The imposter syndrome needs that validation. 728 00:29:26,860 --> 00:29:29,860 So the next type, number four is the soloist. 729 00:29:29,860 --> 00:29:30,860 Okay. 730 00:29:30,860 --> 00:29:34,860 The next type of person will often have major struggles in asking for any help in any instance, 731 00:29:34,860 --> 00:29:38,860 as they think that asking for help is what will reveal their phoniness. 732 00:29:38,860 --> 00:29:39,860 That's me. 733 00:29:39,860 --> 00:29:40,860 Really? Is it? 734 00:29:40,860 --> 00:29:41,860 Yeah. 735 00:29:41,860 --> 00:29:42,860 Okay, your questions are coming. 736 00:29:42,860 --> 00:29:43,860 Okay. 737 00:29:43,860 --> 00:29:48,860 They will do every task independently to the point of potential failure before asking for help. 738 00:29:48,860 --> 00:29:51,860 Ask yourself these questions if you think this might be you. 739 00:29:51,860 --> 00:29:52,860 Okay. 740 00:29:52,860 --> 00:29:54,860 Do you firmly feel that you need to accomplish things on your own? 741 00:29:54,860 --> 00:29:55,860 Yes. 742 00:29:55,860 --> 00:29:56,860 Same. 743 00:29:56,860 --> 00:29:59,860 Do you find yourself saying frequently, I don't need anyone's help? 744 00:29:59,860 --> 00:30:00,860 Yes. 745 00:30:00,860 --> 00:30:01,860 Same. 746 00:30:01,860 --> 00:30:05,860 Do you frame requests in terms of the requirements of the project rather than your needs as a 747 00:30:05,860 --> 00:30:06,860 person? 748 00:30:06,860 --> 00:30:07,860 Yes. 749 00:30:07,860 --> 00:30:08,860 Yes. 750 00:30:08,860 --> 00:30:09,860 Same. 751 00:30:09,860 --> 00:30:11,860 I just need help with this one thing because the project is requiring this. 752 00:30:11,860 --> 00:30:12,860 I don't need help. 753 00:30:12,860 --> 00:30:13,860 Like personally, like I'm good. 754 00:30:13,860 --> 00:30:14,860 I'm good. 755 00:30:14,860 --> 00:30:15,860 But the project might need an extra hand. 756 00:30:15,860 --> 00:30:16,860 Need an extra hand. 757 00:30:16,860 --> 00:30:18,860 And this is the specific way in which you can do that. 758 00:30:18,860 --> 00:30:19,860 Control free. 759 00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:20,860 Control free. 760 00:30:20,860 --> 00:30:22,860 In order to help cope with these feelings, do you have a pen? 761 00:30:22,860 --> 00:30:23,860 Not on me. 762 00:30:23,860 --> 00:30:25,860 You can just text it to me. 763 00:30:25,860 --> 00:30:26,860 Okay. 764 00:30:26,860 --> 00:30:27,860 I'll copy and paste it. 765 00:30:27,860 --> 00:30:28,860 Thanks. 766 00:30:28,860 --> 00:30:30,860 I've been asking for help is the best way. 767 00:30:30,860 --> 00:30:31,860 There you go. 768 00:30:31,860 --> 00:30:32,860 Yes. 769 00:30:32,860 --> 00:30:33,860 That's for help. 770 00:30:33,860 --> 00:30:34,860 Proud of you. 771 00:30:34,860 --> 00:30:35,860 Thanks. 772 00:30:35,860 --> 00:30:38,860 So this is easier said than done, but once one realizes that it's okay to ask for help, 773 00:30:38,860 --> 00:30:40,860 they can succeed easier. 774 00:30:40,860 --> 00:30:44,860 Now lastly, the number fifth type of imposter syndrome is the expert. 775 00:30:44,860 --> 00:30:49,860 Expert imposter syndrome makes one measure their confidence based on what or how much 776 00:30:49,860 --> 00:30:51,860 they know or can do. 777 00:30:51,860 --> 00:30:56,860 Believing that they will never know enough, the fear being exposed as inexperienced or 778 00:30:56,860 --> 00:30:58,860 unknowable. 779 00:30:58,860 --> 00:30:59,860 Is that also you? 780 00:30:59,860 --> 00:31:00,860 No. 781 00:31:00,860 --> 00:31:04,860 This is like when someone cannot say that they don't know. 782 00:31:04,860 --> 00:31:08,860 So like, I've had a friend in the past that I would say like, oh, have you seen this TV 783 00:31:08,860 --> 00:31:09,860 show? 784 00:31:09,860 --> 00:31:10,860 And they would always say yes. 785 00:31:10,860 --> 00:31:11,860 Or this movie, they would always say yes. 786 00:31:11,860 --> 00:31:14,860 And one time I made up a movie and I asked and they said yes. 787 00:31:14,860 --> 00:31:16,860 Because they just can't say that they don't know. 788 00:31:16,860 --> 00:31:19,860 They don't want to be excluded or not in the know. 789 00:31:19,860 --> 00:31:20,860 Exactly. 790 00:31:20,860 --> 00:31:25,860 Questions you can ask yourself if you do think you are experiencing this specific type of 791 00:31:25,860 --> 00:31:26,860 imposter syndrome. 792 00:31:26,860 --> 00:31:31,860 Do you shy away from applying to job postings unless you meet every single education requirement? 793 00:31:31,860 --> 00:31:32,860 No. 794 00:31:32,860 --> 00:31:33,860 I don't shy away from that shit. 795 00:31:33,860 --> 00:31:37,860 But I definitely know at least two to three people that have. 796 00:31:37,860 --> 00:31:38,860 I'm like, give me a fucking chance. 797 00:31:38,860 --> 00:31:41,860 I'll prove to you that I can do this job without the education. 798 00:31:41,860 --> 00:31:45,860 But it's like every single point had to be made. 799 00:31:45,860 --> 00:31:51,860 And because they didn't qualify for this one thing or even down to like would prefer experience 800 00:31:51,860 --> 00:31:53,860 in, previous experience in. 801 00:31:53,860 --> 00:31:55,860 They were like, oh, no, no, I'm not cut out for that. 802 00:31:55,860 --> 00:31:56,860 Not cut off that. 803 00:31:56,860 --> 00:31:57,860 Yeah. 804 00:31:57,860 --> 00:31:58,860 That's imposter syndrome. 805 00:31:58,860 --> 00:32:02,140 Are you constantly seeking out trainings or certifications because you think you need 806 00:32:02,140 --> 00:32:04,860 to improve your skills in order to succeed? 807 00:32:04,860 --> 00:32:05,860 No. 808 00:32:05,860 --> 00:32:06,860 Me neither. 809 00:32:06,860 --> 00:32:07,860 I don't feel like I do that. 810 00:32:07,860 --> 00:32:08,860 Yeah. 811 00:32:08,860 --> 00:32:11,860 But I got it like for the last job, but that was because it was for this one specific job. 812 00:32:11,860 --> 00:32:12,860 Yeah. 813 00:32:12,860 --> 00:32:15,860 Can you relate to feeling like you don't know enough about your job you've worked for a while? 814 00:32:15,860 --> 00:32:19,860 So like if you've worked in the same position for a while, you feel like you don't know enough 815 00:32:19,860 --> 00:32:20,860 about that position? 816 00:32:20,860 --> 00:32:21,860 No. 817 00:32:21,860 --> 00:32:25,540 I mean usually the first few weeks are pretty rocky and depending on whether or not I want 818 00:32:25,540 --> 00:32:29,860 to move up and then it might change some things about, but no. 819 00:32:29,860 --> 00:32:34,260 I don't feel like I'm, if I'm in a position even for just a few weeks, I feel like I get 820 00:32:34,260 --> 00:32:36,860 my feet underneath me pretty quick. 821 00:32:36,860 --> 00:32:37,860 Agreed. 822 00:32:37,860 --> 00:32:41,380 One way to combat these feelings is to practice what's called just in time learning. 823 00:32:41,380 --> 00:32:44,700 So learning only a new skill when it comes up rather than just like cramming your brain 824 00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:46,500 with new skills all the time. 825 00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:51,740 So this isn't to mean like remain stagnant, but also like don't overwork yourself. 826 00:32:51,740 --> 00:32:52,740 Yeah. 827 00:32:52,740 --> 00:32:53,740 So that makes sense. 828 00:32:53,740 --> 00:32:56,980 Just like learn as you go and just realize that it's okay to do that and not know everything 829 00:32:56,980 --> 00:32:57,980 all at once, right? 830 00:32:57,980 --> 00:32:58,980 Exactly. 831 00:32:58,980 --> 00:32:59,980 Just give yourself patience. 832 00:32:59,980 --> 00:33:01,260 Yeah, absolutely. 833 00:33:01,260 --> 00:33:06,860 So there's no clear cause of imposter syndrome, but there is a number of factors likely to 834 00:33:06,860 --> 00:33:08,820 contribute to it developing. 835 00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:11,620 One is parenting and childhood development. 836 00:33:11,620 --> 00:33:15,460 So if your parents pressured you to do very well in school, if you were compared to your 837 00:33:15,460 --> 00:33:20,060 siblings a lot growing up, if your parents were controlling and or overprotective, or 838 00:33:20,060 --> 00:33:24,300 if they emphasized your natural intelligence or sharply criticized small mistakes, these 839 00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:26,780 all might be contributing factors. 840 00:33:26,780 --> 00:33:30,060 These things can all lead to developing the syndrome. 841 00:33:30,060 --> 00:33:32,620 Academic success can also cause feelings like this to develop. 842 00:33:32,620 --> 00:33:36,620 So for example, if you had a really easy time in like elementary and middle school, high 843 00:33:36,620 --> 00:33:40,860 school or college might be a little bit of a shock and then turn would cause imposter 844 00:33:40,860 --> 00:33:42,940 syndrome because it's a little bit more difficult. 845 00:33:42,940 --> 00:33:43,940 Heard. 846 00:33:43,940 --> 00:33:45,020 So I think I said it. 847 00:33:45,020 --> 00:33:47,460 Yeah, college is difficult for most people when they're just starting out. 848 00:33:47,460 --> 00:33:48,460 Like it's a common thing. 849 00:33:48,460 --> 00:33:49,460 Right. 850 00:33:49,460 --> 00:33:53,980 And that has maybe as predisposed to developing imposter syndrome might if, if and when they 851 00:33:53,980 --> 00:33:56,060 get into college. 852 00:33:56,060 --> 00:33:59,700 Certain personality traits have also been linked to imposter syndrome such as perfectionistic 853 00:33:59,700 --> 00:34:04,580 tendencies, low self confidence in your ability to manage your behavior and higher sources 854 00:34:04,580 --> 00:34:06,220 of measures of neuroticism. 855 00:34:06,220 --> 00:34:10,820 Actually, existing mental health symptoms such as anxiety and depression can cause these 856 00:34:10,820 --> 00:34:13,380 symptoms to develop as well. 857 00:34:13,380 --> 00:34:17,260 Imposter syndrome can also worsen mental health symptoms, creating a cycle that is like really 858 00:34:17,260 --> 00:34:18,580 hard to break. 859 00:34:18,580 --> 00:34:23,220 So again, a cycle like mental health can cause imposter syndrome, but it causes imposter 860 00:34:23,220 --> 00:34:25,700 syndrome can heighten your mental illness and vice versa. 861 00:34:25,700 --> 00:34:26,700 Psychological. 862 00:34:26,700 --> 00:34:27,700 Yeah. 863 00:34:27,700 --> 00:34:32,500 Studies have shown that around 25 to 30% of high achievers may suffer from imposter syndrome 864 00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:37,660 and around 70% of adults may experience imposterism at least once in their lifetime. 865 00:34:37,660 --> 00:34:38,660 Wow. 866 00:34:38,660 --> 00:34:40,980 So it's just again, you said it's a syndrome, right? 867 00:34:40,980 --> 00:34:43,380 So it can, I mean, it can not be cured. 868 00:34:43,380 --> 00:34:44,380 What am I trying to say? 869 00:34:44,380 --> 00:34:45,380 Come and go. 870 00:34:45,380 --> 00:34:46,380 Yeah. 871 00:34:46,380 --> 00:34:47,380 Yeah. 872 00:34:47,380 --> 00:34:50,700 So, if you're dealing with imposter syndrome symptoms, it's best not to ignore it and instead 873 00:34:50,700 --> 00:34:54,060 try to tame the emotion by acknowledging its presence. 874 00:34:54,060 --> 00:34:58,340 Be aware of the impact on your body, physical and mental, and take the steps to alleviate 875 00:34:58,340 --> 00:34:59,940 your stress. 876 00:34:59,940 --> 00:35:03,860 Refocus on your values by taking away focus from outward signs of success or achievement 877 00:35:03,860 --> 00:35:05,940 and remind yourself what really matters to you. 878 00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:07,980 It's like a TED talk. 879 00:35:07,980 --> 00:35:11,740 Remind yourself that your life and career are a journey and you can make progress without 880 00:35:11,740 --> 00:35:13,620 overworking yourself. 881 00:35:13,620 --> 00:35:17,060 That's something that I struggle with is like, I feel like if I don't make progress in a 882 00:35:17,060 --> 00:35:18,700 couple of days, I'm not making any progress. 883 00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:19,700 Yeah. 884 00:35:19,700 --> 00:35:22,420 And I need to remind myself that it's a marathon, not a sprint. 885 00:35:22,420 --> 00:35:24,020 Exactly, yeah. 886 00:35:24,020 --> 00:35:27,900 Practicing self-compassion is another great way to combat imposter syndrome. 887 00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:31,020 Don't beat yourself up for feeling like a fraud, but instead give yourself credit and 888 00:35:31,020 --> 00:35:33,820 compassion for how far you've come already. 889 00:35:33,820 --> 00:35:37,060 If you do feel like that your symptoms are getting more difficult to deal with, reach 890 00:35:37,060 --> 00:35:38,940 out to a mental health professional. 891 00:35:38,940 --> 00:35:42,620 Some therapists are trained to offer support with overcoming feelings of unworthiness or 892 00:35:42,620 --> 00:35:46,540 perceived fraudulence, addressing anxiety and depression and challenging and reframing 893 00:35:46,540 --> 00:35:47,540 unwanted beliefs. 894 00:35:47,540 --> 00:35:50,380 But that is my mental breakdown. 895 00:35:50,380 --> 00:35:51,380 That's really interesting. 896 00:35:51,380 --> 00:35:52,380 Right? 897 00:35:52,380 --> 00:35:54,700 I didn't know a lot of that. 898 00:35:54,700 --> 00:35:56,700 Essentially all of it. 899 00:35:56,700 --> 00:36:00,820 But I was like, wow, yeah, that makes so much sense when it comes to sometimes the way that 900 00:36:00,820 --> 00:36:04,260 I feel about my own achievements and things like that. 901 00:36:04,260 --> 00:36:10,100 Or even honestly give me a little insight into some other people as well and being able to 902 00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:14,180 just not only be compassionate towards myself when I'm experiencing those things, but being 903 00:36:14,180 --> 00:36:17,300 compassionate towards other people when they're experiencing those things. 904 00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:18,300 That's really, that's huge. 905 00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:19,300 Yeah. 906 00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:23,540 And realizing that you're not alone, like I said, almost 70% of people have experiences 907 00:36:23,540 --> 00:36:24,540 at least once. 908 00:36:24,540 --> 00:36:26,500 And again, it doesn't just go for a career. 909 00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:27,500 It can go for anything. 910 00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:30,660 I have personally a lot of imposter syndrome with the podcast. 911 00:36:30,660 --> 00:36:34,180 I have a lot of imposter syndrome with my relationship with Casey. 912 00:36:34,180 --> 00:36:37,220 We've been together for almost six years and I still think people don't take us seriously 913 00:36:37,220 --> 00:36:38,220 as a couple. 914 00:36:38,220 --> 00:36:42,820 And it's even as an almost 30 year old woman, I still think that people look at me as a 915 00:36:42,820 --> 00:36:47,180 child and it's really just a huge internal thing. 916 00:36:47,180 --> 00:36:51,340 Just recognizing and again, really practicing like self compassion, positive affirmations 917 00:36:51,340 --> 00:36:52,340 is really helpful. 918 00:36:52,340 --> 00:36:53,740 But I learned a lot too just doing this research. 919 00:36:53,740 --> 00:36:55,060 I didn't know there were five types. 920 00:36:55,060 --> 00:36:56,060 I didn't know either. 921 00:36:56,060 --> 00:37:00,020 I thought it was just a thing, not five different kinds of a thing. 922 00:37:00,020 --> 00:37:02,100 But yeah, thank you guys for joining us. 923 00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:03,860 I know this has been a requested one as well. 924 00:37:03,860 --> 00:37:06,660 So I'm excited to get it out there for you guys to hear. 925 00:37:06,660 --> 00:37:07,660 Do you have anything else? 926 00:37:07,660 --> 00:37:08,660 I don't. 927 00:37:08,660 --> 00:37:09,660 Yeah. 928 00:37:09,660 --> 00:37:15,980 So make sure you guys get your tickets before August for the Austin True Crime and Paranormal 929 00:37:15,980 --> 00:37:19,420 podcast festival where you can see us and hang out. 930 00:37:19,420 --> 00:37:23,460 I think we were talking about maybe doing some merchy merch exchange. 931 00:37:23,460 --> 00:37:24,460 Yeah. 932 00:37:24,460 --> 00:37:26,940 Something in exchange for maybe Patreon's. 933 00:37:26,940 --> 00:37:27,940 I think so. 934 00:37:27,940 --> 00:37:28,940 Yeah, definitely. 935 00:37:28,940 --> 00:37:31,620 And or maybe like if you follow us on Instagram, you get a pencil or something. 936 00:37:31,620 --> 00:37:32,620 Yeah. 937 00:37:32,620 --> 00:37:33,620 Something like that. 938 00:37:33,620 --> 00:37:37,900 But we'll definitely be there and they actually released the lineup for Saturday and Sunday's 939 00:37:37,900 --> 00:37:39,740 panels, so go check that out as well. 940 00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:41,780 Oh yeah, Lainey's been all over that stuff. 941 00:37:41,780 --> 00:37:42,780 Yeah, definitely. 942 00:37:42,780 --> 00:37:45,340 There's a lot of really great podcasts that are going. 943 00:37:45,340 --> 00:37:47,620 So yeah, I think that's it for us today. 944 00:37:47,620 --> 00:37:51,860 Yeah, we will see you guys on Thursday for part two of Elliot Rogers. 945 00:37:51,860 --> 00:37:52,860 So excited. 946 00:37:52,860 --> 00:37:54,380 And thanks again, Lisa, for joining the Patreon. 947 00:37:54,380 --> 00:37:55,380 Yes, thank you so much. 948 00:37:55,380 --> 00:37:56,380 Love you guys. 949 00:37:56,380 --> 00:37:57,380 Love you. 950 00:37:57,380 --> 00:37:58,380 Love you. 951 00:37:58,380 --> 00:37:59,380 Bye. 952 00:37:59,380 --> 00:38:05,420 I said it too early. 953 00:38:05,420 --> 00:38:09,380 Your mental health is super important to us, so we are thrilled to announce that we are 954 00:38:09,380 --> 00:38:12,100 sponsored by BetterHelp to support you. 955 00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:16,660 BetterHelp is the world's largest therapy service and it's 100% online. 956 00:38:16,660 --> 00:38:20,580 With BetterHelp, you can access a network of over 30,000 licensed therapists with a 957 00:38:20,580 --> 00:38:25,140 wide range of specialties and be linked with the perfect match for you. 958 00:38:25,140 --> 00:38:29,100 Whether it's via text, chat, or video call, you can talk to your therapist when it's 959 00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:30,860 convenient for you. 960 00:38:30,860 --> 00:38:34,380 When it comes to your mental health, BetterHelp is a convenient and affordable option for 961 00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:35,580 therapy. 962 00:38:35,580 --> 00:38:40,500 Get 10% off of your first month at betterhelp.com slash dakpod. 963 00:38:40,500 --> 00:39:07,660 It's better, H-E-L-P slash d-a-k-p-o-d for 10% off your first month.