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Hello! Welcome to another episode of diagnosing a killer, the mental breakdown.

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The minty breaky! I'm Koelle. I'm Kenna. My eyes just lit up because when I said minty

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breaky, I was like, ooh, new merch idea! New merch idea, going on t-shirt.

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Yeah, so obviously I'm sure you guys all know since we've been posting all over social

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media everywhere that we launched our website and our merch line and we're super fucking

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excited about that. Super excited. And congratulations to especially Koelle because she worked her

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ass off to get this website completely done. She did everything from scratch. I am not

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as creative as she is because I was like, uh, yeah, I'm gonna leave that to you. I mean,

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she found all these ways to make like the little tiny details like the little Instagram

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box at the top and the little Spotify box or whoever you listen to. You can just click

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on that right from our website. Yeah, I really enjoyed doing it. It was something that took

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me back to like MySpace days where you'd actually have to like punch in all the numbers, the

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colors and all that stuff. It was done on a website kind of creator thing, so it's not

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all mine. But yeah, plugging in all the information and stuff, it's a little tedious. Oh, for

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sure. And I mean, it looks really great. And the best part about it, I think in my opinion

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is that our domain wasn't already taken. So yeah, don't know our website. It is just plain

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and dry diagnosing a killer.com. So perfect cut to the moment. I didn't want to have to

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do like, you know, DAK, POD dot car or something like that. That doesn't work. Yeah, that doesn't

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sound like our name, you know, so that's super exciting. Thank you guys for all the great

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feedback that we've been getting from that. I've got a lot of people telling me like,

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oh my god, the website looks great. I can't wait to buy, you know, this is not the other,

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our merch items are out, but we're coming up with more. You guys let us know what you'd

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like to see if you have a favorite quote like we talked about, or anything in general. I

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mean, we've been kind of tossing ideas around for weeks now. So we're going to try to get

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some more stuff out there for you guys. But right now we have about what, what do you think,

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six or seven designs?

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Yeah, I think we have about five different types of stickers and three different types

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of shirts. And of course, those shirts can come in any colors you want, any fabric that

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you want for the most part, any cuts. So like they do like v-necks and stuff. On the shirts,

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if you click on them, they should also have other merchandise underneath them like I think

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drawstring bags, mugs, travel cups, things like that as well. So it's not just those,

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it just won't individually show you, it'll just show you essentially the design. And

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then everything that'll come underneath that design.

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That's an option for it. I was playing around with the full body hebes design and I was

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putting it on like all these different colored shirts. I was like, I think I'm just gonna

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buy one.

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The red one looks cool.

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It does look cool. I kind of want like a long sleeve, like dry fit. I don't know if they

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even have a dry fit material, but I love those like the ones that breathe those shirts. But

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yeah, that was really, really exciting. We took a shot and toasted to our sister as well

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the other night for congratulating us on our podcast. And yeah. So you guys let us know

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again anything you want to see on there. Let us know if you bought anything because I don't

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even think, can we tell when people buy things?

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Yeah, of course. We'll have like a purchase history and stuff.

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Oh, cool. Well, we can't wait to see who buys what. And I know that Tyler was waiting on

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Is he the lady?

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Is he the lady?

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So yeah.

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That was a good one that you came up with.

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Love that.

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The little side lady.

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Oh yeah.

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Robert Durst, what a trip.

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Well, we're gonna get into this mental breakdown. We are back. We took a week off, I'm sure you

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guys saw on our post and normally I wouldn't be saying that right now because usually when

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you hear this, it'll be episode after episode, you know, it's gonna be far in the future.

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But the reason I wanted to say that is because we got a lot of really amazing feedback on

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that post that we had on Instagram just saying, you know, that we know that mental health is

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just as important to you as it is to us. We know that you understand when, you know, we

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say thank you for our space and everyone was like, Oh hell yeah, like, you know, mental

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health is so amazing, so important. Like you guys are good. Like people were checking on

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us like, are you guys okay? Like we just want to make sure like everything's good and everything's

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fine. We just needed a couple of personal days and we come back from vacation as well.

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So we were trying to get like our lives in order like basically and mentally.

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Yeah, vacation from vacation. You have to come home and do all the laundry and clean

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up the house a little bit and catch up on research or, you know, in this case, we were

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also trying to get their website ready for you guys and the red bubble ready for you

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guys and not that it's y'all's fault, but it was it was nice to take a week off though

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and not have to worry about having to have something out.

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Exactly. Yeah.

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And I even edited, you know, during vacation. I know there was like two nights while we

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were there that I was on my computer just like sitting there, you all watching a movie

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and I was sitting there listening like quietly to the episodes like an edit.

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The kiddos were in the same room and I can't wear my AirPods when I edit because the audio

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like lags and so I can't edit correctly. So I have to listen to it out loud on my computer.

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There has to be a way to fix that. It's 2023. Come on.

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What an odd statement. If someone heard me that from like the 1800 saying my AirPods

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connect to my computer and it lags. So like what do all those words mean?

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Louis the 14th's brain would explode. Yeah, seriously.

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Well again, just love you guys so much. Thank you for your patience with us this last week.

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Can't wait to see everyone have our merch and wear it and use it and I can't wait to

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buy my own and I'm excited. Let's get into it. I want all the stickers.

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Same. We should do enamel pins. What's that?

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Like pins, like little pins. Oh, oh pins. I thought you were like a pluma.

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Those two. Yeah, we should just do everything. Tell us and tell us what you guys want. If

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there's something on there that you don't see, you know, like I would love that quote

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or something. Exactly. Exactly. I'm excited.

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So today we are going to talk about... Let me pull it up.

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Are we? Psychological development. Mostly we're going to be talking about the age of

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onset for disorders. Interesting, right?

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We've kind of peppered it in. Merged, merged quote.

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In the past and other episodes about, you know, when certain disorders come to light

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or develop more, you know, typical age, but we haven't really broken it down. So here

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we go. Yeah.

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So yeah, essentially we're going to talk about just some facts about, of course we're

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not going to talk about every single disorder in the DSM-5, but these are going to be some

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major players that we've definitely talked about before in other cases or have done

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mental breakdowns on before, but it's just going to be kind of like a condensed version.

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Gotcha.

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So the brain of a newborn is actually 25% of that of an adult's at birth.

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It's kind of, baby. Well, 25%, right?

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Yeah, that's, I mean... Just a fourth.

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Yeah, that's wild. I mean, not even just size, but like capability.

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And when you're born you have 86 billion neurons just going off.

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And that's a fourth. And that's just a fourth.

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And you can't even like talk or like make yourself a sandwich or anything.

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Right. Well, you're just a sponge.

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Yeah, just a mush head.

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Just a mush head, yeah. By age two our brains are 75% of that of an adult.

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Wow. Like how, it makes sense though, because how much do you learn from birth to age two?

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Right. Isn't that incredible?

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So this is the most rapidly that our brains will grow in our lifetime, is those first two

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years. And although there are many parts of the brain that work together to gather information,

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such as memories and experiences, one of the ones that we talk about the most when we talk

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about our cases is the prefrontal cortex, right?

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Yeah, it is.

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So we say the frontal lobe, isn't it?

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The frontal lobe.

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The prefrontal cortex specializes in anticipation, planning, and impulse control.

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At birth the prefrontal cortex is very immature and that's why you can't simply ask an infant

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to stop crying.

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Do you think about that?

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Hey.

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Could you just stop?

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Stop crying.

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Just keep it down.

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And they're like, oh shit, yeah.

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So the other parts of the brain include the limbic system which controls emotions and

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motivations, the amygdala which controls strong emotions like fear, more specifically, the

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hippocampus processes memories, and the hypothalamus is the part of the limbic system that responds

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to the amygdala and the hippocampus by producing hormones accordingly, most often in stressful

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situations and mostly cortisol.

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That's a lot of big words.

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A lot of words.

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That's just a little bit of, I just thought the fear response was really interesting and

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the cortisol, the production of cortisol is really interesting.

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My production of cortisol is very high.

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This is why I have a cold sore at the moment.

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Fear and stress.

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Age of onset for certain disorders can be arranged.

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This is depending on the disorder present and the ages can be different as well.

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Most mental illnesses or disorders are about 50% present around age 14.

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So 50% of disorders will be present at 14 years old.

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That kind of makes sense only because a lot of the time when we talk about a personality

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disorder developing, it usually started with a conduct disorder.

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So that kind of makes sense.

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You notice it earlier on and then it develops into something much different later on.

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You're so smart.

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I'm going to talk about that.

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Three fourths of all disorders will be present by 24.

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I was going to say something else.

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There's a governmental break down.

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I'm sure you're going to say it.

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I want to hear.

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I was just going to say that makes sense too because the brain is the one that developed

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at 25 and that's when all of these things come to the front.

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Well again, like I said at the beginning, it's not that we haven't ever touched on these

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subjects before.

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We talked about these subjects but a more condensed version.

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Yeah, for sure.

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Because not everybody is going to catch every episode.

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Yeah, no, for sure.

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I'm also just like, geez.

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My brain is developed.

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My brain is developed.

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How about you?

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How about you?

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What's that from?

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What's that?

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It's BTK.

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Wasn't it BTK?

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I like following.

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How about you?

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That should be a good one.

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It should be all of BTK's handles.

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On a shirt?

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All of his aliases?

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All of his aliases.

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Just listed?

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My God, the Garot Phantom.

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The Garot Phantom.

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The Penetri powder.

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Oh, my God.

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I'm going to be like, oh, my God.

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I'm going to be like, oh, my God.

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I'm going to be like, oh, my God.

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The Garot Phantom.

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The Penetri powder.

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To this panty raider.

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To this panty raider.

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It'd be cool if there was like a, I don't know, like all the ones like should be black

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and then at the bottom in red, like BT, like Bind Torture Kill or something, you know?

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Or like, line it up and if there's one that's like BTK and then it spells his name down there.

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D, D for dumbass, for ding-dong, dirt, burgl, dirt, dirt, D, Dummy, E, Escaping Capture.

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Escaped Capture.

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Oh, I'm going to keep going.

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N, Nocturnal Nightmare.

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I'm just giving him all these names.

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Go ahead.

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Pro-developmental disorders are usually present by age five.

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For ADD, certain signs would be things like hyperactivity or lack of focus.

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Autism would be a lack of emotions or limited interests or being selective about their interests.

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Schizophrenia spectrum disorder would be children seeing things that aren't there, but not imaginative play,

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which is interesting because we always talk about schizophrenia being so late,

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but that there can be signs or symptoms at an early age, even five.

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Maybe they say that it presents itself so late because it's usually not diagnosed until that point.

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You can express those feelings as an adult rather than, because again, like you said that in that one,

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I think it was like Andre Thomas or something when you had said that, you know, him,

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I had said that he had had demons and angels arguing in his head and you said that if he had expressed that to someone as a child,

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parents or other adults might think that he's just imagining things because he has an imaginative mind, like a child, right?

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So it might even, and then guess what he had? Oh, schizophrenia!

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So that makes sense. That's probably due to the fact that they don't get diagnosed until that age.

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Right, yeah, because again, parents might think it's just imaginative play.

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Tourettes will also manifest at this age, starting with verbal ticks or constantly clearing their throat or sniffling.

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constantly worrying or having negative thoughts, mood swings, irritability, being overly clingy or crying often,

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not eating properly, and finding it hard to concentrate.

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That must be so hard as a parent to have like your child go through that constantly.

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Children at a young age can display signs of separation anxiety and in teens,

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it can often relate to social relationships or schooling,

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but most often these are typical worries by a child or a teenager.

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It's just when it becomes more severe, do you want to seek treatment for it?

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Of course, these signs can worsen with the presence of stress within a household,

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like tension between family members, switching schools or homes, or a death of a family member or pet.

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These are just some of the examples of how these disorders may present themselves,

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and if any of these signs worsen, you should seek out help.

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Most often, the best place to start is with a general practitioner or a pediatrician.

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Yeah, definitely. I mean, I'm sure at least minimum knowledge or minimal knowledge of how those disorders develop

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and they know when to refer you to a psychiatrist.

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For sure. They would absolutely know what's considered normal and what's abnormal.

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So from 7 to 14, this age range, we see things like OCD and phobia disorders.

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It kind of makes sense because if you think about it, around this time,

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children are starting to like or dislike certain things like falling asleep in the dark or spiders,

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but it can develop into, you know, worsening conditions.

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And they're also being exposed to a lot more.

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Like they're going off on their own, especially like the young teens.

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They might get dropped off by their parents and spend time alone with peers,

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and then they're being exposed to outside things rather than just at school and home.

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Absolutely. This can also be linked to spending more time with friends and being exposed to other households.

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And it can also be like a social pressure thing.

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Signs that a young person may be experiencing OCD or phobias is a fear of germs.

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These are usually met with overgroming or repetitive rituals

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and sometimes preoccupation with bodily functions.

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Of course, some of these tendencies can fade with time or not disrupt daily life.

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However, when the compulsion causes more stress and disrupts daily life,

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it is important to seek treatment before the behavior worsens.

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Again, with the assistance of a pediatrician or a GP.

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And that's probably hard too because a lot of teenagers,

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especially ones that are experiencing maybe things that they seem,

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they notice that are abnormal from their friends or different from their friends,

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they might be unwilling or unable to express that to their parents.

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And so it's hard because in some situations, unfortunately, that never gets expressed,

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and that disorder continues to get worse without being treated as soon as possible.

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So tell your kids, tell your friends, if you're feeling some type of way, it's completely okay.

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Let someone know so that they can get you the proper help.

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For sure.

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The most common ages for eating disorders to present is from age 12 to 25.

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Well, God, it's 12 years old, right?

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Edies occur commonly when going through puberty because body image becomes more consuming.

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We feel like we have little control over the changes that our bodies are going through.

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This is just one of the many reasons why someone might suffer from an ED.

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Some common signs a young person may be experiencing an ED is being secretive about food,

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experiencing body dysmorphia, dieting off and on, and weight loss or weight gain suddenly.

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Again, like the listeners know from listening to our eating disorder mental breakdown,

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there are varying signs and symptoms and diagnoses for EDs since they're all different.

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Each treatment can be unique, and since each treatment plan can be different,

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it's best to talk to your general practitioner,

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or if you want, you can call or text NETA, which is the National Eating Disorder Association,

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at 1-800-931-2237.

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So I didn't really think about this until you just mentioned that,

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but general practitioners and PCPs are primary care providers, which is what I call it.

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They don't get enough credit because not only do they treat people throughout every year of their life,

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they have children up to adults, but they obviously have to know all this other stuff

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and be able to identify, again, like you said, what's abnormal and what's normal,

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and then be able to refer them to that specific doctor.

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That's a lot of outside knowledge. You get on you, all you people doing that,

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because that's amazing. I mean, not that I could never, but that's really admirable,

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and I didn't even think about the fact that you're right.

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I mean, there's at least 18 and up because some pediatricians before that,

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but still even pediatricians have to do it.

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They have to know the warning signs and symptoms of things that could potentially become dangerous later in life.

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Whether it's schizophrenia spectrum disorder or even the ADHD,

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what's normal child behavior and what's extreme child behavior?

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Exactly. And it's nobody's fault when these things happen.

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Usually, sometimes disorders present themselves due to a trauma,

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but I don't want to say something bad potentially would happen if it gets left untreated,

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because that's not every case. However, a lot of the times that we do have a case,

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it's mental illness that has gone untreated and develops into something bad.

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Absolutely. Or it's something that the person in question can't control,

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or it consumes them, it takes them over, and it's just really unfortunate.

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But it's kind of a light in mind at the end of the tunnel that these people have at least a little bit of knowledge to help.

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I mean, if we didn't have people like this that had that side knowledge,

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how many more cases would we have of potential?

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Undiagnosed disorders.

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Exactly. Substance abuse disorder will show around 18, 19 to the 23 range.

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A lot of these signs of a young person struggling with an abuse disorder

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is actually quite similar to a lot of other disorders, which I found interesting.

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It's likely why they characterize them as a disorder.

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Things like abnormal sleep patterns or eating patterns,

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loss of interest in activities they once enjoyed,

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isolating or going away from home for large amounts of time, and mood swings.

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So these are just some things to look out for. And of course, there's more than just that.

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But those are the ones that I found that were common with other type of mental disorders.

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Of course, substance abuse can start much sooner than 18.

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So this is in the case for every person who has this disorder.

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Usually when you're in that abuse disorder range, it's going to be 18, 19, and in your early 20s.

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The reason that this disorder can be particularly dangerous is that the prefrontal cortex hasn't fully developed yet,

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which makes impulsivity more likely.

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But it can also permanently damage your prefrontal cortex by drug and alcohol abuse.

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Ooh, that one got me there a little bit.

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Yeah?

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Yeah, it's okay.

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It's okay.

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If you were someone you know-

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Oh, shit, sorry.

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That was involuntary.

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It happens to me too.

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Yeah, that definitely does not need to be a pattern of behavior for children.

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So that's all I have to say. Good.

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If you or someone you know is struggling with a substance or alcohol abuse disorder, it is important to reach out.

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You can call Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration at 1-800-662-4357 to find help in your local area.

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You okay?

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I'm good.

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Okay, go ahead.

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Schizophrenia Spectrum Disorder.

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If not presenting signs at an earlier age, it will show up sometime around 20 years old.

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In the late teens, schizophrenia spectrum disorder may present itself in visual hallucinations.

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Otherwise, while into the early 20s, signs may include delusions, visual and auditory hallucinations, disorganized thinking or speech,

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extremely disorganized or abnormal motor behaviors as well.

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I commend people so, so much that have schizophrenia spectrum or they're on the schizophrenia spectrum

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and they're living their best lives and they're fulfilling every day.

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I personally think that that would scare me if I knew that I had that.

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The thing is, most of the time you don't even know what's a delusion and what's not.

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People that are able to grab hold of that and take control of it, they're so admirable, honestly.

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I love listening to stories about that and interviewers and stuff like that because that's just really admirable.

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Yeah, it's inspiring.

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Unfortunately, people who suffer from schizophrenia spectrum disorder may not realize that they suffer from these signs and symptoms,

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especially when the disorder is advanced.

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It is often the responsibility of people around this person to help with this disorder.

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So, if you see something, say something.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Again, that's what I was just saying, that people don't even realize sometimes that what they're being told is true in their mind,

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is completely irrational, maybe, to someone else.

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I don't know if it's based on a true story, but there was an episode of Grey's Anatomy where this guy was at home,

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his mother came home and he shot his mom because he thought she was an intruder and they actually lived together.

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But his hallucination was telling him that she was an intruder and she brings him into the hospital and everyone's trying to separate them.

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She's like, get him away from her, get him away from her.

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And she's like, no, I need him to be right next to me because I can calm him down because I know.

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I also commend people that are full-time caregivers to someone with a disorder that unfortunately they can't control.

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One of the better ways to express your concern to your loved one is just to voice them to your loved one.

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Making a crisis plan is also a great way to help a loved one, containing a list of go-to phone numbers in case they experience an episode.

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This can contain 988, which is the suicide lifeline number, numbers of therapists or counselors,

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and maybe even friends or family members that can be a 24-hour support line for them.

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Personality Disorders, what? Top 100.

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Personality disorders can show around the same age as schizophrenia spectrum disorder, which is 18 or 19, all the way up through 35 years old.

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Much like some other disorders, Personality Disorders vary in symptoms and signs depending on which disorder one may have.

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Some of these Personality Disorders are borderline, antisocial, histrionic, narcissistic, avoidant, and dependent.

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What is that noise in there? It sounds like a car revving.

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Mom might be blending something because she's making a Peruvian dish.

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Oh, that's right.

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Peruvian? I thought she was making soup.

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She's making both.

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She said, porque no los dos.

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I love that commercial.

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I used to do that all the time.

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Some symptoms or signs that a young adult may be experiencing a Personality Disorder are having issues with impulse control,

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problematic responses to stress or emotions, a distorted perception of or thinking patterns, and difficulty in social situations or relationships.

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Some teens and young adults are at higher risk of developing a Personality Disorder if they grow up in a stressful environment,

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if the family has a history of mental illness or disorders, and if they have a diagnosable behavior disorder at a younger age.

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Oh, just like you said.

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I'll say that.

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You said that earlier.

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Of course, if you see these signs say something, just like schizophrenia, much like a person with schizophrenia spectrum disorder,

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someone with a Personality Disorder might not recognize that they have one.

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Reach out for treatment with a general practitioner or a therapist.

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Cognitive behavioral therapy has been proven to be very effective for someone with Personality Disorders, especially at a younger age.

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It helps the individual practice social interactions in a healthy way and gives them the tools to carry with them into future relationships.

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Furthermore, there are support groups and other resources for family and friends of the individuals with Personality Disorders to help them create a safe and healthy environment for all involved.

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Nice.

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So the last one we're going to talk about is depression and other mood disorders.

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About 10% of Americans have a diagnosable depressive disorder from ages 18 and over.

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In teens and young adults, symptoms may include sadness, irritability, feeling negative or worthless, anger, poor performance or poor attendance in school,

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feeling misunderstood or extremely sensitive, using drugs or alcohol, eating or sleeping too much or too little, self-harm, loss of interest in normal activities and avoidance of social interactions.

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That's a lot.

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It just makes my heart hurt.

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You know, I've always been told like the difference in like someone who is suicidal and who is not is feeling helpless and feeling hopeless.

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And feeling hopeless is like really scary.

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It's the worst one.

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I personally have never felt that and I hope that I don't, but I cannot even imagine what that feels like.

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And that is scary.

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I feel for those people so much because it's not true.

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You're not worthless.

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Yeah.

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Like, depressive disorders are not considered to be a typical teenage or young adult behavior.

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Oftentimes we grow into as adults using coping mechanisms to help us adapt in our maturing depression.

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But it is always recommended to get help, whether or not it is reaching out to a professional or talking to a trusted friend.

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You should absolutely get help if you feel like harming yourself or others.

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If you are in a media danger, call 911.

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You or someone else.

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988 is the national suicide lifeline.

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If you need to reach out and speak to somebody, feel free.

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Yeah.

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And we have all of those resources on our website that Coel designed.

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It's true.

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And at the end of every show notes as well.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So every single one of these disorders should be taken seriously and never treated like just a phase.

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Talk to your child or teen about mental health and how they are feeling.

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The sooner the disorder is addressed, the better the prognosis.

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Understanding your family history is also a great way to prepare yourself for the future.

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Whether you have children or not, you could also learn to gain some understanding of the family members around you as well.

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Anyone can benefit from understanding the ages of onset.

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Absolutely.

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Especially when it does come to being a parent, because those are things that, you know, even if you just have that knowledge like lolling in the back of your mind and you see something and you're like, oh shit, diagnosing a killer taught me that this is around the age, that this might be happening better safe than sorry.

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I would rather take my child to go get evaluated and then tell me nothing's wrong than not take them and something bad happens or honestly almost worse that the child feels any type of way other than amazing.

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Right, of course.

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That was a good one.

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Thanks.

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Yeah, I was just like, I said it's not something that we haven't talked about before, but it is just like a condensed version of some warning signs and some symptoms linked to certain disorders with a little bit of, I don't know, stuff just like statistically peppered in there.

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Ooh, she said it.

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She said it.

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You know, when you're watching a movie and they say the title of the movie like in the movie, you're like, oh, she said it.

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Sometimes they don't do that though and it bothers me.

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I would wait for it like all movie and it doesn't happen.

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You really have songs stuck in your head and you remember every single one of the lyrics and you're like, what is that song called?

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What is that song called?

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And the title is nowhere in the lyrics?

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Yeah.

447
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I hate that.

448
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:34,360
Come on, dude.

449
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:35,360
Just really?

450
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:36,360
Give me a hint.

451
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:46,360
You could have named it like, and then what happens is that the artist has to put like the commonly known line in parentheses so that when people Google it, it actually pops up because the fucking name of the song isn't even in the song.

452
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,360
So true.

453
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,360
Do better.

454
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,360
Tommy.

455
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,360
Do better song right here.

456
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,360
I can't write songs either.

457
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,360
That's pretty creative.

458
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,360
Anyway, thank you for bringing that.

459
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,360
Yeah, thanks for listening.

460
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,360
I know this was kind of a short one.

461
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,360
We were just really excited to talk to you guys again and get all of that info out there.

462
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,360
For the show.

463
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,360
Yeah.

464
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,360
We will be back on Thursday with our regularly scheduled case.

465
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,360
I'm really excited to see what you're going to bring.

466
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,360
I'm so excited.

467
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:22,360
And then next week, I'm actually going out of town again, but we're going to pre-record so that we have those episodes of Monday and Thursday already done.

468
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:27,360
And I could just edit and post so that we don't have to be making you guys wait for us again.

469
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,360
Yeah.

470
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,360
But yeah, in the meantime.

471
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:31,360
We will do better.

472
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,360
Yeah, definitely.

473
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:37,360
The $20 Patreon tier by the way has two episodes already uploaded with no ads at all.

474
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,360
So if you want to do that, donate to the Patreon.

475
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,360
It is only accessible for the $20 Patreon.

476
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:51,360
And then if we don't know you or you don't live in our state or city or whatever, we will mail you a sticker and a business card and all that good stuff that we have along with the Patreon.

477
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:59,360
But those two episodes are up and from then on, since we created the tier, every episode will be continuously posted on that Patreon.

478
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:04,360
So yeah, go ahead and donate to that if you are not interested in ad free episodes, but you still want to support the show.

479
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,360
$20, $10, $5 Patreon is also available.

480
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,360
There's a link on our website.

481
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,360
There is.

482
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,360
The website link is also on our link tree in our Instagram bio.

483
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:19,360
Our Instagram is at diagnosing a killer and then Twitter is at killer diagnosis like we all knew.

484
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,360
At diagnosing a killer, not at Gmail.

485
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,360
Wait, whoa.

486
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,360
Whoa, there's a mini stroke.

487
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,360
Diagnosing a killer at gmail.com.

488
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,360
I still almost said it wrong.

489
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,360
If you want to send us an email and let us know anything if we're doing great or doing bad.

490
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:43,360
Also, I wanted to personally ask you guys if you could leave us a review on an Apple podcast because that will get our ratings up and our...

491
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,360
Leave us a review anywhere.

492
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,360
They have them on Audible.

493
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,360
They have them on Spotify.

494
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,360
If you want to leave us a review, please do.

495
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,360
Let us know.

496
00:30:52,360 --> 00:31:00,360
You can type in a review or just click the stars, honestly, and it really helps us get noticed more because it'll put our podcast and the rankings differently.

497
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,360
Yes, but yeah, thank you guys for joining us.

498
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,360
Yeah.

499
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,360
Anything else that you hope?

500
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,360
Never.

501
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,360
Never.

502
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,360
I talked just enough for the both of us.

503
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,360
All right, we will talk to you guys later.

504
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,360
Love you.

505
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,360
Love you.

506
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,360
Bye.

507
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,360
That one was off.

508
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,360
Thanks for watching.