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Hello, I'm Kenna. I'm Koelle and welcome back to diagnosing A Killer

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Are we gonna rap again? No?

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It's not even a rap. It's just awkward.

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Um, hi everyone, how's it going? We are back with my part two of Robert Burdella

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I think at the end of the mental breakdown. I was listening back and I said Robert Burdella, so I apologize

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That was my case. I don't even know his name

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Who?

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So before we get started today, I just really quickly wanted to shout out one of the clinicians that I work with

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I'm not gonna say her name because I don't know if she's comfortable with that

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But I was speaking with her earlier and she said that she started listening and I'm really excited

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And she got one of her girlfriends to listen as well

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And she was actually talking about when we did the criminalization of mental illness mental breakdown

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And she was like this is seriously no judgment

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I just want to let you know because I didn't know and my friend taught me something

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But I think I recall saying something along the lines of if you are taken into a hospital setting for suicide watch

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They keep you for 72 hours and then they release you

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That's actually incorrect. This person does work with an inpatient facility and it may be different per facility

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But at least for this one

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They actually keep you for 72 hours at the most but afterwards if they still think that you are needed or even if they don't

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They will actually refer you to an inpatient facility or an outpatient facility to get ongoing mental health care

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So I think that's really cool. I didn't know yeah

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It kind of sounds like obvious, but you know, sometimes it doesn't maybe we maybe the assumption that I should

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have so yeah, unfortunately, you know in the case of Andre Thomas nobody really followed up with him and then

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It was also that uh, the british guy was uh, alexander alexander

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Renwell, I think Renwell Lewis Renwell Lewis Renwell hyphen

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Yeah, wow, we're like that's Wednesday wedding

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Yeah, but I guess I made the assumption that that's the case in every situation which

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Thankfully, it's not so thank you for that little piece of information that was really kind of nice to hear actually like okay

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No, we don't just throw people to the curb

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But unfortunately it does happen in certain cases like that

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Um, well that being said, I think we're gonna get right into part two. We talked about

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Robert Bridella last time we talked about his uh, first six victims

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He we talked about how he had his little mo that was kind of changing but was usually pretty similar

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I think we left off talking about uh, Christopher Bryson. It was the last victim and um

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The kind escape yes, and how uh, the last thing that

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Bronella said

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Was quote I've gotten this far with other people before and they're dead now because of mistakes they made

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I hate that I hate that so much

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Yeah, so so we're just gonna go ahead and get started with part two

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We're gonna pick up right where we left off

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Now by the third day of his capture Christopher Bryson had earned Robert's trust

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And he was actually able to convince him to establish a daily routine

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Of tying his hands in front of him after he was abused rather than above his head into the bed like he had done in the past

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Christopher's reasoning being that it was restricting the circulation to his arms

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And I guess at this point maybe Robert felt some sympathy for him question mark

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I don't know we can't assume that that guy's capable of sympathy right of course

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Yeah, but I guess like he started trusting him and he's like oh it's like a mutable trust thing

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Yeah, he's not gonna do this growth. Yeah, which is disgusting

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I trust you enough to wrap your hands in front of you than behind you. Yeah

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Yeah, this is all this privilege you get exactly

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Now along with this Christopher had also actually convinced Robert to leave the tv on in the room

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With the remote control left between his legs whenever Robert left the room so that he could like control the tv obviously

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So Christopher later stated that he almost consistently was thinking about ways to escape like almost constantly

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And regardless of how submissive he was pretending to be he was always in the back of his mind trying to figure out

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Okay, how the hell so I get out of here as one would yeah now the following day

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This is now day four of his capture

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Christopher noticed a book of matches that was accidentally left in the room by Robert when he left for work

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Well, you work for a few hours at a time. So this is like looking pretty good, right?

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He was somehow able to get one of the matches lit

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I'm not sure how but he's a bad bitch and using that

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He actually burned through the rope that held his hands together and was able to break free bad bitch

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All right, so after getting out of the restraints Christopher bravely jumped from the second story window

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Wearing nothing but a dog collar around his neck. We talked about that in part one

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And also breaking a bone in his foot in the process

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Ouch

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Oh this poor guy at least he got out late

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This is when he spotted the parking meter attendant and shouted for the man to call the police

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The meter attendant led Christopher to the house

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He had been approaching where they promptly called the police who arrived minutes later

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When the police arrived they questioned Christopher for nearly four hours

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He initially claimed that he had been hitchhiking when Robert picked him up and abducted him

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After picking him up Christopher stated that Robert kidnapped raped and tortured him for four days before he escaped

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As Christopher spoke the officers noted that along with the dog collar and broken foot bone

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He had also had red swollen eyes and visible scars and welts over his entire body

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Two of the four officers at the scene were informed to maintain a discrete surveillance of Robert's property

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One officer accompanied Christopher to the ER and the last officer radioed the Kansas City Police Department

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To request a formal search warrant of the property to be written up so that they had it when they arrived

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Upon arriving to the hospital police were able to get more information from Christopher

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He explained that along with all of the abuse

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Robert had also shown him photos of other men who appeared to be deceased

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He stated that Robert told him that these had been previous individuals

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He had unsuccessfully attempted to quote

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as his sexual slaves

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the collect ah

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the collect word comes back

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Furthermore Christopher stated that Robert told him he had no intention of ever allowing him to leave his home

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And he claimed to have killed the other men who became a nuisance to him

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He also told Christopher he would do the same to him if he acted the same way as the previous victims

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That is awful

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Isn't that so scary to hear though?

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That's just sad

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That's like this is what I've done and what I'm capable of and this is what's gonna happen to you if you don't cooperate

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What would you do?

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That is so terrifying

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Like you know that that person is capable of such acts that he's you know saying

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But I'm you know, I'm wondering if that's not also

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It's like kind of like a

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Like a fear tactic

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Like what well for for Robert? Yes, but in Christopher's mind, it's like what do I have to lose then like I'm gonna plan my escape

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That's because the only other alternative is death. You know, like might as well go out fighting

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Yeah, if I am well, thank good for freaking him. He made it the same afternoon that Christopher escaped police arrested Robert on charges of sexual assault against him

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When he declined to allow officers in his home, they had received the search warrant right about the same time and were able to go ahead and enter the residence anyways

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Middle fingers. Yeah

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Middle fingers, no one can see you

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A metal tray containing syringes, small bottles that looked like they were holding prescription drugs, cotton swabs and eye drops were also close to the bed

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The posts on the bed were also noted to be extensively worn leading investigators to believe that restraints had been tied to them recently and multiple times with victims trying to escape from them

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So fucking awful

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Content warning this does get pretty graphic so I will just put a big content warning right here

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During the search of the rest of the house investigators discovered a human skull inside of a closet on the second floor and another partially decomposed head was found in the backyard

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The search also uncovered several human vertebrae that were noticeably scarred by both hacksaw and knife marks

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Along with this there were two separate envelopes found containing several human teeth

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Both a hacksaw and a miter saw were found in the basement along with a chainsaw that was covered in blood, flesh and pubic hair

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A chainsaw

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Illuminal tests later determined that the basement as well as both trash cans outside were covered in blood

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In the home in multiple different locations investigators found 334 Polaroid pictures and 34 snapshot prints of various male victims

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These pictures showed Christopher Bryson and several other men in both life and death and many images had been taken as subjects were tortured

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Lastly the search discovered numerous restraints, sexual devices, pornographic literature, a book on narcotics and hypodermic needles

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Perhaps the most eerie find however, the Journal of Roberts with intimate details of each victim and their torture logs

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Inside there were also several newspaper clippings from the Kansas City Star regarding a missing young man, Jerry Howell

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A wallet and driver's license for James Ferris were also discovered

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So this motherfucker took out newspaper clippings from his first victim that he abducted and was just like hanging onto them for keepsake

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How does that house not fucking smell? I said it in the first episode, I'm gonna say it in this one too

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How do you walk in there and not be like, this smells like death, like puke and shit and blood and death

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Like how does that enrotten shit?

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But like the outside of his house was all unkempt too, maybe they thought he was a nasty fuck, I mean he was

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Don't go in that house, that's where the witch lives

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But seriously, how do you not, and that he opened his house to all different types of people and like who'd want to stay there?

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Like how do you not walk in that house and just smell the nastiness?

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But when you think about it, the people that he was abducting and letting stay at his home were transient, like people that were down on their luck

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People that probably didn't have any money or probably really didn't give a shit where they were staying

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Roof over their head, oh yeah

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Before the search of the property had concluded, the Kansas City Police Department had assembled a task force of 11 detectives and one sergeant to focus solely on this case

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This group was tasked with looking into Robert's history and discovered that he was a well-known individual among the male prostitutes in town

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And had earned a reputation for praying on young men

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Sorry, I don't mean to laugh, but yeah, they never suspected it

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He was an upstanding citizen, for sure, he just had a reputation about, you know, creepy

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In fact, most of the men involved in this community stated that they were reluctant to accept him as a client

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Because he was considered very strange when it came to his interactions, but also that he was a known suspect in the disappearance of Jerry and James

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So, like, known to the community or known to the fucking police?

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No, known to the community, the community was like, why isn't anybody arrested this dude yet?

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And the police were like, oh, I don't know, he's a stand-up guy

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I don't know, he's a stand-up guy, yeah

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Oh my god

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In fact, he was on the neighborhood watch or something, right? Wasn't he like neighborhood watch?

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He was like the head of the neighborhood watch

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He like owned the thing

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He invented it

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In fact, during the original investigation of these two missing men, Robert was taken in for questioning on two different occasions and denied any involvement both times

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Remember earlier in part one that I said that he wasn't ever suspected?

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I was incorrect

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He was?

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He was, multiple times, apparently

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According to my research that I did

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That I did

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On which cases?

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Jerry and James

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The two people that he was suspected of in the community

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Despite being considered a suspect and even being put under surveillance for a short period of time, police were unable to find any solid evidence linking him to either men's disappearance

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And in both cases, Robert refused to speak with police without a lawyer moving forward

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He would later even have his lawyer reach out to police and inform them that they would be filing a harassment complaint against them if their questioning did not cease

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Oh my god, but isn't that so typical of someone who is like a pathological liar and guilty?

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And guilty is what they're like

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No, everything that they said, they actually did to me

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Seriously

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You don't understand

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Content warning for this next part

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When the police finally were able to identify the victims based on evidence, they contacted the families to get confirmation of identity

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James Ferris' wife identified him in several photos found at the property, including some taken after death

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Paul Howell formally identified one picture of a young man hanging upside down in Robert's basement as Jerry Howell

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Several other photos had been assigned to detectives to determine if the victim was alive or deceased in the photo

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And if they were alive to determine the circumstances of the photo, what was happening at the time it was taken

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Like if it was a consensual sex act or whatever

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Get this

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Several of these images had even depicted some body parts of the photographer

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So on April 13th, Robert was ordered to pose nude for a series of photographs in order so the position of his body would match the unidentified person taking the photos

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And it matched the shape and size of his ugly ass

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Damn

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That's savage

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Isn't that wild?

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What a fucking idiot, like let me just put like my penis in here that they can totally identify

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We probably never thought that he would have to pose nude in front of a bunch of police officers and then reenact it

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I hope they gave him the old squat and cough

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It's like

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I hope they gave him the good ol' whoopsy daisy

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Oh my god

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They gave him the ring the doorbell ding dong

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Numerous male names had been found scribbled on various pieces of paper in the home as well

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So detectives tracked these men down as well in order to see if they knew anything

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One of the individuals was able to be tracked down by the name of Freddie Kellogg

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He was able to inform detectives that he and several other young men had intermittently stayed with Robert since the early 1980s

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And that Robert was known for giving his lodgers drugs typically intravenously before engaging in sex with them with or without consent

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Damn

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So on top of all this, he's been a creep way before he started killing people

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Yeah, he doesn't end people just didn't say anything about it

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Raping people

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That's horrible

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Freddie also stated that one of the conditions for him to stay with Robert was for him to persuade young men that Robert found attractive to come to the house and attend parties

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And Robert found out that any of these men were police informants, he would use this knowledge as a tool to blackmail the young men to his advantage

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In addition to this information, Freddie was also able to identify three other young men in the photographs, Todd Stoops, Robert Sheldon, and Larry Wayne Pearson

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Investigators would later discover that Robert had paid a $30 fee to secure a bond for Larry in June 1987 and no further records existed to indicate that Larry was still alive following this record

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Remember when he bailed him out of jail and then he decided to kidnap him on the way home?

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So after that, there was no paper trail for Larry

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So that was how they put it together that he was the last person to see him alive

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Wow

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So after that, investigators did find out that in August of 1987, Robert had filed an assault report from a hospital in which he alleged a man named Larry Pearson had deeply bitten his penis during oral sex causing a serious laceration

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I forgot about that

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He already murdered him at this point

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Now he's literally legally filing an assault report on someone that he knows is deceased

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That's, yeah, that's

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That is beyond my comprehension

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Again, it's the cover-up thing

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It's like, you know

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It's the narcissism

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Yeah

223
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They're never gonna find out

224
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Yeah, exactly

225
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But I have to file, well, you know, somebody clearly assaulted my pain

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My manhood

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My manhood

228
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And now I have to, you know, if I don't file assault charges, it's gonna look weird

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You know what I mean?

230
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I don't know

231
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They should have just cut it off

232
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Sorry, it's too wounded, we gotta get you off

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On top of this, an interview with Robert Sheldon's employers had confirmed that he had been a reliable employee until he suddenly stopped showing up in April of 1985

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Further...burying

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Right

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Robert

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Shortly after the search of the property, Robert was informed as to what the detectives had found

238
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What?

239
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That's odd

240
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That's weird, a skull in my closet?

241
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Hmm

242
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I don't remember leaving that behind

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The same afternoon that he agreed to pose for the reenactment photos, investigators attempted to conduct their first official interview with him, where Robert invoked his right to silence

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They were also going to attempt to get handwriting samples from him in order to compare it to the journal, but he refused to cooperate and was therefore sentenced to sixth months in jail for contempt of court

245
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Hell yeah

246
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So they got him on something, right? Which honestly, like, that's kind of genius because they're like, okay, well, you're gonna fucking jail anyways, asshole

247
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Right

248
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You might as well think about what you've done and confess

249
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Yeah, you might as well cooperate

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Robert was initially charged with one count of felonious restraint, one count of assault, and seven counts of forcible sodomy

251
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He was assigned a temporary public defender as his legal representation and held in custody at a Jackson County jail in lieu of a $500,000 bail

252
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I did the...what is it? Conversionary?

253
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Hmm

254
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That would be $1.1 million today

255
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Damn

256
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Late April, the skull found inside Robert's closet was identified via x-ray as that of Robert Sheldon

257
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Hmm

258
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The same day, two men separately phoned the police department to state that one of the seven young men depicted in the photos was a former high school friend of theirs named Mark Wallace

259
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Detectives got in touch with Mark's sister who confirmed that he had been missing since mid-1985. Shortly after, investigators discovered that photograph labeled D released to the media was one Larry Pearson

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Robert would be formally charged with the murder by dismemberment of Larry in July after the head discovered in his backyard was formally identified as Larry's on May 12

261
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On July 22, 1988, a grand jury formally indicted Robert for the murder of Larry Wayne Pearson. The following month, he was arraigned and pleaded guilty to the first degree murder of Larry Pearson

262
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Oh, he admitted it

263
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He pleaded guilty

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The plea of guilty was entered following a late morning recess in the arraignment hearing and came as a shock to both the judge and prosecuting attorneys

265
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He was not going to plead guilty, then they went to a mid-morning recess and he came back and all of a sudden he's like, guilty

266
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Yeah, I did it

267
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Yeah

268
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God

269
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Following the submission and acceptance of the plea, the judge insisted that Robert confess under oath to Pearson's death

270
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Content morning, in response to questioning, Robert stated, quote, I put a plastic bag over his head and tied it with rope and allowed him to suffocate

271
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When asked if he performed this act deliberately and with malice afterthought, Robert simply stated, quote, yes

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He was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole

273
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Upon being sentenced, he was taken to the Missouri State Penitentiary but was later temporarily placed in protective custody at the Potosi Correctional Center due to concerns for his safety

274
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Oh, whoopie

275
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He's so concerned for his safety

276
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He's good

277
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They gave him the electric treatment

278
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Gave him the electric, whoopsy daisy, in the butthole

279
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What's that going to say?

280
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No

281
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A second guilty plea was submitted on August 24th, earning Robert a second life term for one charge of forcible sodomy against Christopher Bryson and he would also receive a further term of seven years pertaining to one court of felonious restraint against Christopher

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Despite initially pleading not guilty to the other five murders on September 13th, 1988, because why would you...

283
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I don't get that

284
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I don't get that

285
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Like, you know, I killed two people but not seven

286
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But not seven, that's ridiculous

287
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Yeah, why would I?

288
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How would I do that?

289
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Despite initially not pleading guilty with the agreement of his two attorneys, Robert ultimately conducted a plea bargain with prosecutors to avoid the death penalty in the case of the remaining five murders. As part of the plea bargain, Robert agreed to confess in graphic detail as to whom he had killed, what indignities he had subjected each victim, how he killed each victim, and what he had done with their bodies.

290
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These confessions were given to prosecutors between December 13th and December 15th, 1988

291
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So it took him two days to explain all of this to them

292
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In return, prosecutors agreed not to seek the death penalty

293
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On December 19th, 1988, Robert formally waived his rights to be tried for any of the outstanding murder charges upon the understanding that he was to be convicted of one further count of first degree murder for Robert Sheldon and four counts of second degree murder

294
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Which is bullshit

295
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How could it possibly be second degree murder?

296
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It's a plea

297
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That's just how those things frickin work

298
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He formally pleaded guilty to these charges before Judge Robert Myers

299
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Members of the public were actually prevented from attending the hearing with only family members of the victims and news reporters allowed to be present

300
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But news reporters

301
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Yeah, right

302
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Nobody else can be here

303
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Public can't be in here, but news reports

304
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Alright

305
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In response to the guilty pleas, Judge Myers imposed five further concurrent life sentences with an additional condition barring any future prospect of parole, meaning a.k.a. he would never ever get out

306
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Yeah

307
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They go on to explain his confessions which are laid out in detail online, but for time's sake and for the sake of not being graphic, I'm not going to explain each of them, but you can definitely find that online if you want

308
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I will state, however, that although police extensively searched for the remains of the victims throughout their initial investigations, the confession Robert provided confirmed that the dismembered bodies were stowed in trash bags and taken to the landfill and therefore they were never recovered

309
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So sad

310
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It gets worse

311
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Because you're going to be pissed

312
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God damn it

313
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In the years following his convictions and incarceration, Robert granted an interview to a TV station and corresponded with a number of different individuals. To all concerned, he attempted to restore his image as a quote, sensitive citizen who has simply quote, made mistakes in committing his crimes

314
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What the fuck ever

315
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I'm just a sensitive citizen and I just made some mistakes

316
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Using your debit card too many times and then you go into the grocery store and then you go to check out and your card is declined. That's a mistake

317
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That's a mistake

318
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He further claimed that he had been unfairly demonized by the media before, during, and after his hearings and plea bargains

319
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Oh, and get this, he also claimed that police ineptitude had resulted in his being allowed to remain at liberty following his first murder

320
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Oh my god, okay, no, that's like, that's the whole um

321
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Well you let me out so I did it again

322
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Well you let me do it

323
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Like the police were so dumb

324
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I mean

325
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He's not wrong

326
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He's not wrong

327
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That's terrible

328
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He's not wrong

329
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Well, I mean

330
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He was questioned for two disappearances in the beginning

331
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And then they just let him go

332
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But that doesn't mean that he should be like, oh, okay, that's his excuse though, is that he's like, oh, they didn't figure it out soon enough

333
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,240
So what was I supposed to do? I guess I'm just supposed to keep killing people

334
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Keep moiterin'

335
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Keep moiterin'

336
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:14,240
Oh, get this, he also lodged multiple complaints with prison officials regarding prison conditions

337
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Are you upset that you don't have a soft bed so you're an advocate now?

338
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He also wrote several letters to the local prison minister claiming that prison officials knew of his high blood pressure

339
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Yet were not providing him with his medication

340
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Oh my god, wait, oh, wait, he's high blood pressure

341
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Is that why he wouldn't become a five-star athlete?

342
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Literally

343
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This pisses me off

344
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In 1992, Robert contacted the counselor who he first met when he became incarcerated, Reverend Roger Coleman

345
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He informed Coleman of his distress due to the staff withholding his medication

346
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At 2pm on October 8th, 1992, Robert complained to prison staff of chest pains and was taken to the infirmary

347
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Get it, boy

348
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,240
Get it, boy

349
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Medical staff determined his heart was unstable and called EMS

350
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He was taken to the hospital in Columbia, Missouri, where he was pronounced dead from a heart attack at 3.55pm at the age of 43

351
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He outlived his dad

352
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He outlived his dad

353
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That's amazing

354
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Shortly after his death, the judge at his trial, Alvin Randall, was informed and sarcastically responded with, quote, couldn't have happened to a nicer guy

355
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Oh, savage, bruh

356
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Your honor

357
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Your majesty

358
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That's fucking badass

359
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:48,240
Damn, couldn't have happened to a nicer guy

360
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According to published reports, although Robert had a depressive personality disorder, he was also diagnosed a sexual sadist who gained extreme sexual excitation from the humiliation, pain, and torture to which he had subjected his victims

361
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On top of this

362
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,240
Is that a midi-ethan-5?

363
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,240
It is, I looked it up

364
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:16,240
On top of this, despite his claims to media individuals, he never expressed any degree of remorse for his actions and referred to his victims as, quote, play toys in an interview he granted shortly before his death

365
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,240
Not experiments

366
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:29,240
In November of 1988, auctions of Robert's vast collection of antiques were held on four separate dates, with the intention that all proceeds raised be used to pay his high legal fees

367
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:36,240
The auction attracted considerable interest across America and even overseas, because you know who he had, you know, contacts

368
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,240
Yeah

369
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By the end of the first day, more than $60,000 or $137,000 today was raised

370
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His house was also purchased by a local businessman and demolished

371
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,240
Hell yeah

372
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,240
Fuck yeah

373
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,240
I'm sure it's not like piss and vinegar

374
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,240
He wants to be in there

375
00:27:52,240 --> 00:28:03,240
By the time of Robert's arrest, he had abducted, tortured, and murdered at least six young men. In addition, more than 20 different men were depicted in the polaroids found on the property

376
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Although Robert claimed he only murdered six of the men total

377
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,240
Oh my god, you're such a freaking angel

378
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,240
Bless you

379
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,240
Bless you, sir

380
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His victims are as follows Jerry Howell 19 Robert Sheldon 20 Mark Wallace 27 James Ferris 25 Todd Stoops 23 Larry Wayne Pearson 20 and Christopher Bryson who escaped 22

381
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So that is the end of the Robert Bridella story

382
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,240
What an intense case

383
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,240
Right

384
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,240
This is one I had not heard of

385
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,240
Oh yay, I found one I didn't know about

386
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,240
I didn't know about this one hardly at all either I knew a little bit about it but not definitely not as much

387
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,240
Yeah

388
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,240
But very interesting

389
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,240
I think it's kind of a bummer that he just suffered from a heart attack

390
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,240
It's too kind

391
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,240
Yeah, I think so too

392
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,240
I mean

393
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I just, I like, what a weird like psychology of it all because he's still even after his arrest and being in prison for murder

394
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:12,240
He's still trying to like do his due diligence as a kind of like upstanding citizen

395
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,240
Yeah

396
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,240
It's very interesting

397
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:25,240
It was really weird to me how it was like, okay this like stand up dude like family man even though he had never family but you know what I mean like the ambiance of the word like you know community asset

398
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:32,240
You know things like this and then it almost seems like all of the sudden turned murderer and then after he got caught it was like a switch back

399
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,240
Yeah

400
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:46,240
And then all of that has to do with the depressive personality disorder maybe he was, I don't want to excuse it of course but maybe during this time that he was abducting these men he was going through a depressive state

401
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:53,240
And maybe that kind of triggered something or maybe vice versa maybe he was going through a manic state and when he wasn't he was going through the other stuff

402
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,240
Like manic or anxiety or whatever and that's you know that sense of control

403
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,240
Yeah

404
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:07,240
Because I've heard a lot of things about sexual sadism that doesn't necessarily always include murder I mean of course there's been some people in the past that have taken it to an extreme

405
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,240
But I feel like that doesn't equal murder like

406
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:25,240
Yeah I thought sexual sadism was more of the fact that like you get the high off of like a sexual experience of some type and then you are always looking to like push the envelope like I think there was that one guy that he found that he really liked cutting himself

407
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:31,240
And so but he eventually cut his entire body up so badly that he bled to death

408
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,240
Oh my gosh

409
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:40,240
But it escalated so quickly you know and so that I thought was more attached to the sexual sadism

410
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,240
Well when I've heard

411
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,240
Then doing it to someone else

412
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,240
Yeah

413
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,240
But I mean like I said it's pushing the envelope just with someone else I guess

414
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:54,240
Well when I've heard the sexual sadism thing in the past as well and it has been with someone else I've always heard of like not always but there's been times I've heard of consensual things like that like they want to

415
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:59,240
inflict pain on someone and they find someone that is willing to be that person that they can do that to you

416
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:09,240
And that's usually enough but in this case it was like and it wasn't even like okay there's my guy I'm gonna go get him bring him back with me and then do this plan it was like oh well he's here

417
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,240
He's drunk enough

418
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,240
Exactly like it was so odd

419
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,240
It was opportunistic about it

420
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,240
Yeah

421
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:23,240
Which makes to me seem more just like of an indicative of just a traditional serial killer but you know what I mean like someone that's opportunistic

422
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,240
Yeah

423
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:32,240
Like you know I think we mentioned Ted Bundy although I didn't mean to mention Ted Bundy in the first episode I was definitely talking about Dahmer because I Googled that afterwards

424
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:39,240
But with Ted Bundy he was opportunistic he would go to the beach and he would find someone that would follow him or whatever

425
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,240
Yeah or Charlie Manson even

426
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,240
Yeah

427
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,240
Like people that would be willing to just fall all over him and be right there

428
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,240
Yeah

429
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,240
He had to work for it you know like that sounds kind of bad

430
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,240
He didn't kill anybody though

431
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,240
Yeah

432
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,240
But he was a manipulator and I feel like he used people that would gravitate towards him in order to control them

433
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,240
Right yeah yeah and he controlled with the mind not necessarily physically

434
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,240
We definitely didn't talk about Charlie Manson

435
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,240
Did you know that Charlie Manson's mom once sold him for a pint of beer?

436
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,240
I believe that

437
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,240
She did

438
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,240
She got him back

439
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,240
Well I think that he said that his mom was a prostitute

440
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,240
Yeah she was a wild one

441
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,240
Yeah

442
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,240
That's wonderful

443
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,240
Hey thank you guys for

444
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,240
On that note

445
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,240
On that note

446
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,240
Prostitution

447
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:21,240
Thank you guys for joining us for another part two or another two parter there has been a couple so maybe we should do that

448
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,240
So maybe we should do some small cases

449
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Yeah

450
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For the next couple just to kind of ease the weight and the you know

451
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Setting on the next subject

452
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Already on my next subject

453
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So yeah

454
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And I think it'll just be one

455
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Yeah

456
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We'll definitely come back with another case and another mental breakdown

457
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If you guys have any suggestions please reach out to us

458
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,240
We do have Gmail is diagnosing a killer at gmail.com

459
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,240
We are on Twitter at killerdiagnosis

460
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,240
We are on Instagram at diagnosing a killer

461
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,240
We also are on patreon.patreon.com

462
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Slash diagnosing a killer

463
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,240
And I think we are in the works of potentially starting a TikTok channel

464
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I think that might be happening

465
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We're talking about maybe getting some videos up

466
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What's up with my ideas

467
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Maybe just a little couple teasers

468
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We'll put like a couple lines from the next episode on a video

469
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So that you can get excited for it whenever you see it

470
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I like that

471
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So in the meantime reach out to us

472
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We love you guys

473
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Thanks for being here with us

474
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And we will see you soon

475
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Love you

476
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Bye