1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,680 Hello, I'm Koelle and I'm Kenna. Welcome to diagnosing a killer the mental breakdown 2 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:11,960 There's only so many ways we can go. Yeah, yeah 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,780 Mental breakdown mental breakdown 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,720 mental breakdown 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,320 Oh my gosh, we should put like a little song 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:33,360 We come up with a song every time though. That's true, but like a set song 7 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,360 Hi 8 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:55,160 Welcome back to diagnosing a killer mental breakdown and today we're gonna be talking about something that I don't know 9 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,440 I don't know how to start this. Well, what is your okay? 10 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,460 So you have a new mental breakdown for us today and oh my god 11 00:01:01,460 --> 00:01:04,060 I don't know what it is, which is really weird because I usually don't know what it is 12 00:01:04,940 --> 00:01:06,560 before we start 13 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,560 That's a lie 14 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,880 So I'm I wanted to talk about something that I feel like is 15 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,280 something that is 16 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,440 newer in 17 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:25,600 Talking about certain diagnoses and really this is a mental diet or a medical diagnosis. Okay, it's a mental diagnosis 18 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:34,720 So medical breakdown medical breakdown, but it is something that does affect the brain and it is something that can cause 19 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,240 Certain disorders as well. So we're gonna be talking about CTE 20 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:46,040 CTE chronic traumatic encephalopathy. Yeah, that sounds right. It's a neurodegenerative 21 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,340 syndrome that has been connected to serious symptoms including depression 22 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,080 aggression and suicidal behavior. Oh, wow, so 23 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,340 CTE has been talked about a lot recently and we'll get into why 24 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,560 but it is formerly believed to be manifested in 25 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:08,320 Boxers originally so and I think this is like at the 19 we always say it's not the 1930s 26 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,680 But in the 1930s late 1930s 27 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,800 It was known as punch drunk 28 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:20,520 So CTE affects the brain of people who have suffered repeated concussions and traumatic brain injuries 29 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:25,600 Most commonly found in athletes and the athletes 30 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,800 specifically who take part in contact sports like football like football. Yeah 31 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:35,480 but it can also affect members of the military, okay, it makes sense and 32 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,440 Actually domestic violence situations as well also makes sense 33 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:46,160 So the term encephalopathy derives from the ancient Greek words in as an in ion 34 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:52,640 And then the other parts are kate kable which would mean head and pathia which is suffering 35 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:58,320 CTE is usually characterized in stages and it's stages that are not 36 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,880 Completely uncommon with things like dementia and actually Alzheimer's 37 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:11,680 So stage one so it's like stages are the severity so there's stage one moderate to stage three and stage four 38 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,960 so in stage one 39 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:19,280 Symptoms may manifest in reoccurring headaches loss of concentration and loss of attention or focus 40 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:27,120 Some individuals actually experience short term memory loss depression aggression and explosivity. That's mild. That's my that's the first 41 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,400 stage yeah stage two and some of these are 42 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,520 Again, this is list of severity. So it's stage one 43 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:42,520 Explosivity, but it might it might just be might be contained. It might not necessarily be outward aggression, but 44 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:48,200 Um, anyways stage two comes with depression mood swings headaches and short term memory loss 45 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,300 Some people may experience impulsivity suicidal thoughts and some language issues 46 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,480 Like slurred speech. Yeah stage three is the most prevalent 47 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,040 One in stage three is gonna be a memory loss 48 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,880 executive dysfunction meaning like your 49 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,560 brain your cognitive reasoning. Yeah 50 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:12,040 Explosivity, visio spacial difficulties meaning like vertigo 51 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:19,280 No, what you're what you're what you're visualizing what you're seeing. So like colors might be off, huh? Things like depth perception 52 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,840 Yeah, are gonna be those are gonna come with those difficulties 53 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:24,680 I feel like that would give me vertigo though, right? 54 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:31,920 Probably not being able to balance yourself an apathy 75% of people in stage three are considered to be cognitively impaired 55 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,920 Wow, that's not even the most severe one. It's most severe one at stage four 56 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,800 Geez the most severe cases and they are prognosed to have full-blown dementia at this point 57 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:44,360 They have profound loss of attention. They have paranoia depression 58 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,240 Most all other symptoms can develop 59 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:53,560 From the other stages in this one in severe ways so it can actually develop into Parkinson's and ism as well 60 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,400 So most commonly this is found in 61 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:02,880 Mild head trauma that is repeated over a long period of time and in many cases these are found in contact sport players like we said earlier 62 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,800 Most commonly in football hockey and rugby 63 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,760 Just to name a few other people who suffer from this condition again 64 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,000 Like I said would be military personnel who have experienced certain types of combat 65 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,000 Also in domestic violence cases where someone's been hit in the head repeatedly 66 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:24,480 Unfortunately, there's no confirmed amount of time or duration of trauma that one could or would have to endure in order to 67 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,480 Lead to the development of CTE 68 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:32,240 There's a reason for that the scientific community has said though that they believe it takes years to develop 69 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,240 Okay, that's what I was gonna ask so it doesn't happen right away 70 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:43,040 Right, it is something that develops in your brain. So currently little is actively known about CTE as CTE 71 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,560 Diagnosis are made only at autopsy 72 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:50,680 Wow, it's the same thing as Alzheimer's you can't 73 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:56,400 1000% say someone that is living has Alzheimer's or is suffering from it 74 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:02,200 You can only be sure once they do the symptoms and looked at their brain, right? And you can only study the symptoms. So 75 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:08,680 Yeah, so CTE is only diagnosed by making by having an autopsy done postmortem 76 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:14,680 And it's in certain sections of the brain that you can see the deterioration. Yeah, because you can't see that on scans 77 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:19,080 Yeah, so the brain of an individual who suffers from CTE gradually deteriorates and 78 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:24,280 It over time and it ends up losing brain mass and if you can actually look up 79 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:31,720 pictures of you know, the brain scans that not brain scans but pictures of people's brains postmortem in 80 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:37,680 Comparison to someone who has a healthy brain and it's it's usually right in that frontal area 81 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:43,760 Well, that makes sense and there's there's it's literally just missing like there's missing it just deteriorates 82 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:48,360 Well, if you think about it the frontal lobe is very of course very imperative 83 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:53,000 but these symptoms almost kind of mimic like 84 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,520 Adolescent, you know preteen teenager thing they kind of not mimic 85 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:03,200 But they're kind of similar which makes sense because the frontal lobes not fully developed here on the kids side 86 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,200 And then it's deteriorating over here, right? 87 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:11,000 So signs of CTE are also signs for other neurological disorders like Alzheimer's the dementia which I mentioned earlier 88 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,680 There are no distinct biomarkers that are related to CTE either 89 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:21,000 So it's really difficult to diagnose a patient while it's they're alive. So like they can't take a blood sample 90 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,040 They can't take a urine test. They can't do it. None of these things actually show 91 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:30,680 Yeah, you know that oh, yep. Oh, there it is. You have CTE. So there's no biomarkers 92 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:37,120 So concussions don't result in brain bleeds typically and so therefore you can't see them on CTs or MRIs 93 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:42,680 So although technology is advancing now to be able to detect certain signs of CTE on MRIs and 94 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:44,920 DTIs 95 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:52,200 It has been a really slow progress because technology just hasn't advanced yet to show definitive proof of CTE on film 96 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,680 So there is however a 97 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,480 protein that's been discovered that will actually 98 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:06,480 Attach to a tracer that is the tracer is consistent with degenerative disorders like Alzheimer's dementia and various other conditions 99 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:13,560 But more testing needs to be done to determine if it's possible if this is a possible biomarker for future confirmation of CTE and life patients 100 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,080 So yeah, like I said, basically it's like a specific protein that is higher 101 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,840 when you have 102 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,480 Certain traumas to the brain. Oh, I see what you're saying 103 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:28,480 I thought you were talking about as like a treatment because I was thinking because CBD is a 104 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:36,200 Testing or kind of in the works of becoming maybe a treatment or maybe just like a helped about the symptoms for 105 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:41,360 Parkinson's or Alzheimer's or dementia because it actually has chemicals that bind those receptors back together 106 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,480 Rather than because they're apart. That's one of the big issues 107 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:50,080 Why but I thought that's what you were saying, but you're saying it's it's protein indicates that it's happening that right? 108 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,480 So these specific tracers it's like a 109 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,320 Floridine or something and it's it's a specific trace. It's something that happens to the brain 110 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:03,600 When it's experienced this type of trauma and so what they can do is they can 111 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,960 Base it essentially give the body of this protein the protein then it connects to that tracer 112 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:15,520 Which is a binder I see and then test results will tell them. Oh the binder, you know, this has 113 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:21,920 You know been connected somehow and so they say, okay now we can read on a piece of paper that this 114 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:27,280 Specific tracer is in the blood or in the body. Yeah, and so but it's not 115 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,920 Always the case. Yeah, they can't it hasn't been confirmed that that happens a hundred percent of the time 116 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:33,440 Yeah, of course 117 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:40,240 So it's interesting possible but again technology has to advance science has to advance in order for them to kind of hone in on something 118 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,880 That they'll come up with an actual test for yeah 119 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:50,640 So studies have also seen that a possible cause for CTE is actually an autoimmune response to head trauma 120 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:58,000 So studies have also seen that there is a possible cause for CTE and it is an autoimmune response to head trauma 121 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:03,280 So when the blood barriers in the brain are actually broken in more severe head trauma cases 122 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:10,880 The body actually attacks itself to repair itself much like a cut or anything like that, right? So when the blood 123 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,480 This is such I was I was laughing last night because this is such a 124 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:22,840 Illiteration so the body actually attacks itself to repair the blood barrier of the brain 125 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,000 So there are a greater number of antibodies during the breaks of the plane 126 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,200 brain blood barrier and in this case of 127 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:38,920 Concussions especially when that happens the auto antibodies are elevated. So yeah, so 128 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,840 That's another way to kind of test 129 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,760 But the thing is is that in concussions the brain doesn't bleed 130 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,080 So it's gonna be elevated, but they're not gonna be as high 131 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:56,280 If you know, it's just a bruise if it's just a bruise or yeah exactly 132 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:02,080 So clearly we know that the supposed cause is repeated head trauma 133 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:07,200 So the only thing that we can do about it is wear a helmet, you know 134 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,120 We're a helmet when you ride a bike wear a helmet when you have contact sports 135 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:15,800 But that even that isn't 100% successful. No, of course not things like that if you must play them 136 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:20,640 Currently, there's no cure that exists for CTE since we really don't know a true testing method for it 137 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:26,840 The only treatment with this is time and medications that are similar to those with dementia 138 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,760 Which is really unfortunate because a lot of these people are young. Yeah, of course 139 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:37,120 So there's no known population of patients with CTE at this point because there's no way to test 140 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,640 However, the rates of the disease are about 30% in patients with a recurrent head trauma 141 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:47,600 So the highest number of cases that have ever been reported are actually in football players that have played beyond high school 142 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:53,040 Okay, so that's when I get to more people are grown and they're not just say you're not grown in high school 143 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:57,160 But people are but more professional of course they have more experience with the sport 144 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,920 They're bigger so they can do more damage, you know, yeah, it's more 145 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:06,700 Kind of pressing in order to become a professional is to be good at tackling 146 00:12:06,700 --> 00:12:12,520 You know being good at body slams or whatever they do. So 9% of all athletes all athletes 147 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,280 Have evidence of CTE. Wow 148 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,400 3% is the rest of the population 149 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:24,100 Wow that are non athletic or not not not not that athletic but people that don't play contact sports 150 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,480 It's just intense. Yeah, so 151 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,000 99% of 152 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,560 Tested NFL players have signs of CTE after death 153 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:40,720 There has only been 111 brains of NFL players that have ever been tested and out of 111 154 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:45,520 110 show signs of CTE. Oh my gosh, that's compelling. It's 155 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,600 Incredible it is almost a hundred percent. Yeah 156 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,000 It's wow. Yeah, it's a lot 157 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:58,200 Yeah, I mean, there's not one position that you play in football that you're not gonna come in contact with someone, right? 158 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,280 Absolutely, and then I mean you can go on Wikipedia and look at the people that are 159 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,280 That have been tested for the most part 160 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:15,720 There are there was recently was it I think it was 2013 or 2014 the NFL actually settled with over 161 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,360 4000 162 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,400 NFL players who said that they had suffered from CTE and they did they just did a 163 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,760 Complete payout they did a settlement with over 164 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,280 4000 NFL players 165 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,200 Like it's incredible 166 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:35,840 So again with all this talk these symptoms of CTE are usually recognized as aggression or depression and living patients 167 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,200 And I'm just gonna talk a little bit about 168 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,560 Some very famous cases of CTE 169 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,120 Legends such as Jimmy snooker 170 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:52,040 He's a was a professional wrestler and he was thought to have CTE after he actually murdered his longtime girlfriend Nancy Argentina 171 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:58,680 Oh my gosh, he was later found unable to participate in his own defense due to his his advanced stage of dementia 172 00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:05,000 Wow, Kellen Winslow the second he was he was a professional football player who mostly played for the Cleveland Browns 173 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,400 he was likely to 174 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,960 Have a decreasing mental state as he would go on to be convicted for such crimes as burglary 175 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,840 Lude conduct battery of an elder and sexual assault. Oh my gosh 176 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,400 Chris Benoit who was another professional wrestler with symptoms of CTE before 177 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,600 He actually murdered his son and his wife. Oh my god, and he took his own life as well 178 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:30,120 He was confirmed post-mortem to have extensive damage to his brain due to multiple concussions 179 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:35,640 Wow, and he was actually I mean again, they can't confirm it until after death 180 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:42,280 Yeah, but he showed many symptoms of CTE and was pretty much as close to a diagnosis as you can without 181 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,760 studying his brain 182 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,240 The list goes on and on honestly and there's actually people who 183 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,000 football players NFL players 184 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:56,440 Who claimed to this day that they have to have CTE or they have symptoms of CTE? 185 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,560 This includes OJ Simpson and Brett favre as well 186 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:05,240 Big big time names and OJ Simpson was talking about it recently too. He's like 187 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:10,080 He's like I know I have CTE. There's no way and he's been convicted of 188 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,560 Grand larceny and things like that as well. So of course, I know a lot of people know 189 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:21,840 Some things about Aaron Hernandez, but he died at 27 and the last brain that was actually observed with CTE before 190 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,400 Aaron Hernandez's brain was actually 46 years old 191 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:24,920 Oh, wow 192 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:30,000 So they gained a lot of insight into even at a young age what CTE can look like 193 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:35,520 And of course did he kill himself? So Aaron Hernandez was of course the professional football player who? 194 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,000 He had gotten in tons of legal trouble before he was ultimately convicted of murder 195 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:49,480 His record includes bar fights shootings assaults and then even suspected killings before he was actually convicted of murder 196 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,600 And he did take his own life and his cell. Yeah 197 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:58,520 It's really honestly an epidemic that nobody really talks about and it's a super serious condition 198 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,320 And it's honestly the most unfortunate part is that it's completely preventable 199 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:08,160 Of course and honestly like now like flag football is actually on the rise due to safety concerns 200 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:15,720 But over 1 million kids today from ages 6 to 12 still play tackle football. Yeah 6 to 12. They're babies 201 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:21,320 Yeah, they have baby brains and they're taking on all this damage and it's just scary 202 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:26,240 It's scary that you can develop things like aggression depression suicidal thoughts 203 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:33,920 Just violent tendencies from playing a sport that you love from playing a sport that you love and especially for young adults who 204 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:39,440 Throw themselves into sports instead of doing extracurricular activities 205 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,480 elsewhere, you know not in school and 206 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,680 You know for a lot of these kids they feel like you know, this is something that they can do 207 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:53,280 They can use their bodies to go to college and make something of themselves and provide for their families 208 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:58,720 Yeah, and they're sacrificing their mental health for it and it's and it's well 209 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:03,280 It's not even I mean football is of course one of the biggest examples, but this can happen 210 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:08,080 And cheerleading this can happen in diving if you hit your head on the yeah swimming 211 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,200 Like I hit my head so hard one time during a swim meet because I was too close to the wall 212 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,560 I didn't know and like it can happen in any even tennis, you know 213 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,000 I mean if you get hit in the head with the racket or a ball like anything, you know, it's 214 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:25,680 It's the statistics are out there as well football had the 99% 215 00:17:27,120 --> 00:17:32,280 Then it was like rugby I think was like 81 or you know and so on and so forth 216 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,280 And they do have those statistics out there 217 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:39,800 Yeah for people like even baseball was like 11% you know make sense if you get hit with the ball 218 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,400 Yeah, you get if you fall when you're running or yeah crazy 219 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:49,240 It is it's incredible and uh, but again I in my opinion completely preventable 220 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:56,040 Of course, but are we gonna cease playing sports? No of the wrist. No not at all. No one is not no one is but 221 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:04,760 It's well, that's the thing. I mean the NFL makes billions of dollars. I mean they make it the Super Bowl is the most highly televised 222 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,000 Events every year like it's it's not gonna go away 223 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,440 Yeah 224 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,800 The only thing that we would hope is that there is some 225 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:20,760 Limit, you know if we have a testing process if we have these biomarkers if we have 226 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:28,760 A way to be able to be like okay this person, you know needs to retire earlier than anticipated or whatever this person needs to take care of themselves 227 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:33,720 Or or whatever or maybe you know we come up with more safety things 228 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:38,200 I don't know what else you could do besides putting a giant helmet and giant pads all over you know 229 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,440 230 pound man, but you know it is what it is like 230 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,160 it's just 231 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:51,000 Yeah, it's just one of those things. It's like it's gonna keep happening and it's it's probably unfortunately gonna happen 232 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,080 And it's never gonna slow. You know 233 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,440 But it is important to talk about and it is important to note. I mean 234 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,680 even with 235 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,680 the cases that you just mentioned like 236 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,080 this diagnosis can 237 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:08,600 Can lead to violent tendencies violent behaviors, you know, and if that's gonna prevent 238 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,680 I mean even just the knowledge of having it can even prevent those things 239 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:18,760 You know even the knowledge of saying, okay, I do struggle with cte and I am you know living with this diagnosis 240 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,640 Now that I know that I can kind of keep it at bay and and you know 241 00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:28,600 At least try to treat it so that this doesn't happen and I don't end up committing a violent 242 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,760 Right, so I know the you know we talked about 243 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,320 Alexander Lewis rain well, was it? 244 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:37,000 um that you know in his case it was like 245 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:42,040 It's a very it was very quick when he started showing signs of schizophrenia 246 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:45,960 But again, you know, there's no cure toward that towards that but 247 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,120 Treatment is there and you know, I feel like the same way with cte 248 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,760 You know the the damage has been done 249 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:59,000 However, there are ways, you know that if you if you're aware of it and you and you treat it and you look for help and you 250 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,000 get the help 251 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,000 That you know it is possible to not 252 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,880 have to 253 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:11,560 Feel like you're regressive or or even just to live a full life. It's possible. Of course it is. Yeah 254 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:17,080 Well, that's awesome. Thank you. I I knew a little bit about that, but I didn't know as much as I do now 255 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,920 So thanks for the information and honestly like again, you know when we talk about 256 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:27,400 The way that this could progress as a society. Maybe we don't have children ages six to twelve tackling each other 257 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,120 You know hurting each other at such a young age 258 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,680 You know, but again a lot of minds would have to change for something like that to happen 259 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:41,960 Of course, yeah, I just I I think about the scientific community and the technology that we're going to develop when it comes to things like cte and 260 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:48,360 Again, yeah, let me get those biomarkers and all that stuff. It'll be definitive proof like hey NFL 261 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:54,360 This person shouldn't be doing this anymore. All right. They need they need to take care of themselves. Yeah 262 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,760 Well, thanks for sharing. I was a good one. Sorry. It was a quick. No, it's fine 263 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,840 You guys uh be on the lookout for the second part of Alexander Lewis-Renewal 264 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,520 It'll probably be out next Tuesday if I would imagine just because of our schedules 265 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:11,240 Um, so we're gonna make you wait for that one and chew on the first part of that for a little bit 266 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,400 and then we'll come back with the 267 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,320 with the information 268 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:20,680 And in the meantime, you can follow us on instagram at diagnosing a killer. 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